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administration is fantast and i can so much talk and confusion that make it is hard. that's where we see opportunities. liz: that's the thing we always try and let our viewers understand and that's how bust does it and going fearful and going to be wonderful and thank you so much. the nasdaq unchanged lineup of 167 times and bulls coming out on top for the nasdaq and s&p, dow and russell. stay tuned, kudlow is next. larry, hello, folks, welcome to kudlow, i'm larry kudlow, we're live in washington dc. seems like the congressional budget office is now suggesting they had it wrong all along. admitting lowered tax rates and produced higher tax revenues and we'll talk about this and much more in the very first interview and u.s. secretary scott bessent
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and dan cliff ton waiting in the wings and president trump with an executive order keeping men out of women sports and biological men out of women sports and senator tommy tuberville on that and senator cynthia later in the show and edward lawrence live and what's cooking? reporter: yeah, talking about tax cuts and house republicans flirting with a plan torr trump tax cuts to be extended for five years. president donald trump long said he'd like to have the cuts made permanent and focus at white house with reducing this and shrinking size of government and trying to fight them with budget dare from the government and tax cuts are top of mind. listen to this. >> there's a smaller leaser in government and similar million collection at the boarder and president trump is standing on the shoulders and following the footsteps of the men who founded this country.
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larry: i like it but didn't want you tottering about it. sometimes we forget about tax cuts once in a while. reporter: never ever forget about tax cuts and on your show, never forgetting about tax cuts. reporter: shuck schumer adding to the federal debt and not helping bring cost down for americans. >> how long will it take to cycle through yesterday and put actual prices for americans going to pay down. >> story at grow pump and the president doing everything he can to reduce the cost of living crisis in the country as quickly as possible. that is why he signed a litany of executive orders and americans have the i to wait for it. >> i don't have a time line but the president is doing everything he can to reduce cost of living for americans at home. reporter: sot worst case scenario is letting tax cuts
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expire and about a 20% increase for taxes on just about all americans. now, this in fighting and the president has not weighed in yet on whether the five year extension would be okay with him or not. i can tell you in the room right now here at the white house is the house speaker johnson as well as weighs and means chairman jason smith and other lawmakers and maybe a side conversation related to that. larry. liz: edward, i sure hope none of that comes true. folks, republicans must stick to the laffer curve and that's the subject of the riff. congressional budget office, cbo reestimated the 10-year forecast and long behold they're raising their tax revenue baseline by, wait for t 1.9 trillion. same one telling us it's reduced
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the tax rate and reduced deficit and going for them and it's the cbo now suggesting they were wrong? all along by admitting the laffer curve really worked and lower tax rates produce higher higher revenues and that's their new forecast seems to be saying and in fact since president trump's huge reduction in the corporate tax and 35% to 21. that's over the past seven years and corporate tax revenues essentially doubled and doubled and indeed throwing the lower personal income taxes and other progrowth measures and entire tax revenue base gone up by about, wait for it, 50%. didn't go down, it went up. so how in the world can the cbo come right back and now say again that if the trump tax cuts are simply extended, just extended, the 10-year cost has been 4 trillion in lost revenues
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and going with higher definites and there's no cost or higher deficits and keeping them low and high. art laffer right for about 50 years and c bo wrong for about 50 years and here they go again. trying to tell us that extending the trump tax cuts going to increase budget deficits by $4 trillion because you guessed it, revenues going to be lore. bologna. bologna. absolute nonsense and republicans in the house and senate and white house should fight the cbo nonsense. and one of the big fighters so far has been senator mike crapo of idaho and arguing in you're extending current law, you're not raising taxes and not lowering taxes and there's no $4 trillion deficit. if the tax bill is not extended, you'll have a $4 trillion tax hike. that overtime will make the budget gap even worse. mr. crapo calls it current
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policy and hopes the republicans fight to officially change budget rules and there's precedent. in 2012, congress and president obama extended george w. bush tax cuts and using the same current policy argument. assume the bush tax cuts would continue and not expire and there was no deficit impact. cbo doesn't increase spending and hiking deficit and scoring tax increases and it would be like a pinball on tilt and higher taxes and higher spending and even higher deficits. they should work hard to reduce unnecessary counter productive federal spending and shrink the size and scope of government but letting tax cuts expire and finding themselves with a bad economy and higher deficits.
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it's a lose lose. mr. trump said we should never get tired of winning. start winning by extending the trump tax cuts and maybe growing the economy by 3 or even 4%. call @ blue collar boom. that's the -- call it the blue collar riff. secretary bessent. >> thank you, larry. good to be with you. larry: thanks for coming on, appreciate it very much. this fighting texas year or edward lawrence reporting a fighting texas year extension or not and ten year extension tension or other interfering with the trump tax cuts and lash reigns leading, president trump has a big mandate and he wants
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to makes the tax cuts and job act permanent. >> that perm nancy will continue to make -- perm seizure perm nae u.s. a highest economy and we're going to get the tax cut and goal for them to be made permanent. as you just said, we're going to put current policy scoring and the scoring up till a year ago and cbo up till 35 years and investment and scoring and going with spending and that's yours truly spending has gotten out of control in washington. larry: you all from the president on down, especially you, you want to lower spending and lower the tax rates. i mean, what law says you can't
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do both and biblical chapter going to do both. seems it's the right thing to co. >> the u.s. doesn't have a revenue problem and they have a spending problem. and we can up the revenues and going for growth and most importantly trump got elected from affordability crisis and discussion as karoline leavitt was questioned recently, what is he going to do for affordability crisis and real wage growth for working americans is the best way to fix this. we will contain prices and and cut regulation and real wages for hourly workers in the trump, first trump administration and you're a key part of hourly workers outdid supervisory wages and as i've said, wall street where you and i came from has had it great, wall street can continue to do just fine.
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now under this administration. larry: trump repeated p3, 3 it el us about 3, 3, 3. do you believe in it, what does it mean and what's the point? >> larry, i believe now that i'm in the seat, i believe in it more than ever. and we didn't get to this debt and deficit problem overnight and i noticed that senator schumer is now screaming about debt and deficits and going to break open the piggy bank during covid and we moved from the rescue and recovery and the economy was already recovering and the democrats blew out the deficits and they continue doing it and right up till this past year. as i've come into office, we're going to have the highest
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deficit of gdp we've ever had when we weren't in the war or recession. that's 6.7, 6.8% of gdp and 3-3-3 means over the next few years by the end of president trump's term getting the deficit to gdp down to something with a 3 in front, 3..5% and long term average and cutting regulation, by sending this signal to the market, we can create 3% plus economic growth and going for economic growth and going to be again what you have the economic team of president trump did last time. 3 million more equivalents energy by the u.s.. produced in the u.s. and i had a meeting with senator sullivan from alaska and he enjoyed telling me that the biden
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administration had distinction of alaska and ayatollahs and part of the big energy agenda is energy dominance and energy security. i'll tell you, that in some of the national security briefings i've been in recently, a lot of problems that we're seeing with iran, with russia have been these high -- not only the high level of the oil prices but where the oil is coming from. we'll get our budget deficit in order and up growth and going to bring energy production home. larry: that's about 16 some odd million barrels a day. >> total liquid so total liquid including nat gas about 21 now, 20, 21. about a 15% increase on that base. larry: which would hold down inflation and drop ago lot of price i across the board and president trump talks about this a lot and has a very energy
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centrist point of view and oil impact permeates the economy and hundreds of consumer goods in various items we use every day and it's a tremendous -- this might be the way to finally slay bidenflation. >> i couldn't agree more and i believe as you said talking about food prices and big component is transport and the inflation, actual inflation number only single digits of that is energy, but in terms of consumers mind and especially working class americans that the energy component for them is one of the surest indicators for a long term inflation expectations. so getting gasoline down and more down and the optimism allowing them to rebuild their
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lives they had to struggle with over the past four years. larry: mr. secretary, step back a minute. how do you see today's economy. how do you look at it when you speak with the president, more or less what are you suggesting to him? >> larry, we've seen this gigantic government spending that's been fueling the growth, and i've talked about several times on your show during last year we're reprivatizing the economy, and we're going to have private sector jobs and we'll do that obviously beginning of the energy sector and we're going to have smart, safe and sound bank regulations that gets small, medium banks lending again to main street and we're going to bring manufacturing home again. so i think that we have had a economy that's been supported by the government. we are going to slowly torque
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that back to the private sector and bring down the government spending and get up the cap x and good paying jobs home. the reason under biden administration and government jobs doesn't give real wage growth and increases with the inflation level. system of articulation larry: this is basically, you want to reprivatize and saying you want more business investment and the business investment creates jobs and higher wages and that was the point of the trump tax cuts going back eight years ago and some started working on them. driving me crazy and hate to revisit this but the cbo stuff and some weird things and trump tax cuts doesn't produce growth, yes, they d. didn't enhance productivity, yes, they
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d. didn't raise revenues, yes they d. why are people panicking on capitol hill. why am i hearing five year extensions as you say, the president hasn't said that. why are we hearing about, why hearing that the tax cuts blow a hole in the budget deficit. tax hikes would do it. >> blowing a hole in the budget deficit, in the economy, and in the lifestyles of working class americans. if we do not get this tax bill done, as i said in senate hearings, this is pass/fail for the -- our side of the isle and we will have the large -- i'll and largest tax hike in history. who do not try to move this forward.
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>> is that true or what do you think? >> he wants lower interest rates and what he sees in my talk withs him and he and i are focused on the 10-year treasury and going for that. if the purpose of lowering interest rates and going for federal reserve, then i will only talk about what they've done and not what i think they should do from now on. they did a jumbo rate cut and 10-year rate went up. now i see this year, despite growth e mattes going up and 10 year coming down and i believe the bond market recognizing as you and i talked about, energy prices are lower and we can have noninflationary growth and
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cutting spending and good efficient growth. larry: scot bessent, seemed like the president was conditioning lower rates on lower oil prices. that's what it seemed like. i didn't see him -- he had truth social postings about this in the federal reserve and not attacking the fed on interest rate basis. he attacked them for permitting higher inflation and turned out not to be transitory. but it seemed like he really wanted to keep king dollar and the dollar as world's reserve currency and at particular moment right now, he wasn't blasting or demanding for lower rates and getting oil prices down. thoughts? >> you're exactly right on his view of u.s. as reserve currency but excellent speech he gave at economic club of new york and we were there in august. we can be
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reserve based on market and he wants lower rates and not calling fur fed to if we do everything we talk about today and deregulate the economy and get tax bill down and then rates take care of themselves and dollar takes care of himself. larry: he insists on it being the world reserve currency? he said he would tariff 100% some of the country ifs they went through and created another currency. they haven't yet, but seems pretty adamant about what i call king dollar, but what is keeping the dollar of the world's reserve currency. >> yeah, larry, i've been in the currency markets for portion 35
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years. i can tell you there's no alternative to the dollar. larry: right. >> these other countries can talk about it, they may try to take away our reserve currency status. but there is no other reserve currency on the horizon. larry: shifting gears a bit much in the news -- till today. much in the news, tariffs and mr. trump had success with his tariff threat and it's serious at some point and we'll come back to that and tariffs will go up. not done. how do you see as treasury secretary, you'll be a key player according to the president and how do you see the tariff strategy right now? >> i think it's a -- several different aspects to the strategy and threatening tariffs and going for president of columbia and not only allowing
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illegal imgrans back into the country and offered to send his own plane and threatened tariffs or signed an order for tariffs on mexico and canada over the weekend. then on monday, president of mexico offered 10,000 troops at southern boarder and justin trudeau virtually the same thing and this is in response to the fentanyl crisis. also tariffs on china and again, due to the fentanyl crisis and not a revenue issue right now. larry: steve miller said it yesterday but heard it from president trump too, he wants to move the system towards more tariff-related revenues and fewer income tax related revenues and tariffs out there whether 10 or 20%, i don't know. what can you tell us about that?
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>> larry, tariffs are a means to an end and bringing manufacturing back to the u.s.. in theory, tariffs would be a shrinking ice cube that you would tariff a country and going back to the u.s. and income tax and corporate revenues and the pay of income tax going up and tariff income would go down and our act going down and means to end to re-shore economic security in the u.s.. >> we saw several good things ts and the covid crisis was a test run for what a hot war could
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look like, a deeper economic war could look like and we realized that optimal supply chains are not secure comply chains so we want to bring back medical supplies and we've got to bring back shipbuilding and things like that. we know we have a group of industries that we were very vulnerable during covid crisis and places like china and most imbalanced economy in the history of the world and unfair trade practices in the history of the world. talking about china shock and going for them and larry: very interesting, china shock, last one, treasury secretary scott
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bessent sen. in the headline and elon musk influence on treasury and doge influence on treasury and you're the treasury secretary, what can you tell us about that. elon musk is greatest entrepreneur of this time and doge outlook and their brief from the president and department of government efficiency and we had the grace. we're old enough to remember the administration. the grace commission in 80s. larry: reagan. >> yep. bill clinton and al gore set up a commission on government efficiency: failed. and doge is not going to fail. and they are moving a lot of people's cheese here in the capitol. when you hear this squawking, there's status quo it's not
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happy. it's going for the treasury and it's the payment system not being touched and gogoing with ability, accuracy and capability and money going where it is and in terms of payments being stopped, that is happening upstream at the department level. larry: all right, well, i just -- essentially you're saying you're cooperating on this government downsizing with elon musk and doge. >> what i'm saying is that at treasury, our motto is to move deliberately to them. larry: okay, treasury secretary scott bessent, thank you for coming on. we appreciate your time very much. best of luck on the new position. coming up, folks, president trump signed an executive order that will keep biological men
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larry: all right, big signing by president trump today and talking about it is alabama senator tommy tuberville. good to see you, sir. tell us alaska the signing and what was in the signing if you will. >> it's been too long happening and it's unfortunate for the last four years we had to put up with biological men participating in women's sports. not just here but the olympics. it was a great day and had a lot of people there. executive order putting a stop and going to them going on the floor and going for them and dangerous and it's just a great day that we finally got this done. larry: senator tuckerville, you mentioned olympics and how will they look at this resolution?
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abide or fight it? what do you anticipate, sir? >> remember, larry, this is in la the next time and president trump mention that had and olympic committee two years ago let each sport decide what they wanted to do and how to handle it. unfortunately boxing let men participate against women and it was terrible. it really was. somebody is going to get hurt. hopefully they come to their senses and president trump will probably get involved in this with the olympic committee, knowing him. and hopefully getting all men and boys banned from any kind of sport in the olympics. it's just not fair. larry: it's so ironic to me, senator, politically, for all these years going back to, i'm going to say gloria steinham saying that it was the hearty to defend women where are were the deputies and trans-movement and
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biological men being in women sports and the democrats are in favor and wrecking women sports and treating women athletes, female athletes incredibly unjustly. i mean, how do you figure that? do they see the stupid i did of this whole story or not? >> yeah, they see it and won't admit it. the problem they have, larry, is they've lost the middle class and have no support anymore. they have no voters so they had to go over top with the climate change and boarders with illegals and involved with republicans and conservatives and they believe in that and they just have gone off the deep end and again going back to what your question was, they've lost their base, they're not going back. they've really got so far out there, larry, even the democrats, a lot of democrats voted for president trump
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because of this one issue that the democrats kept pushing. larry: yeah, i think it's quite extraordinary. in fact, one more topic to the discussion today, senator tuberville. president trump talking about gaza. talking about the united states clearing out gaza and taking hold of gaza, working with other countries in the middle east perhaps saudi arabia and others. private enterprise to rebuild a new gaza. i know you followed this keenly, sir. what can you tell us on that one? >> first of all, positive and saudis not going to take them and going to jordan and going to do something to get them to take a few of them. when you do that, how do you separate the palestinians from
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hamas? you're just moving one problem to another. president trump trying to clean all this up and no water or electricity. he's looking for a possible way to answer this problem that we have. it's a huge problem, he's the only one that's come up with something different. we'll have to see if he can work through this. steve witkoff talking about this with us at a lunch in and talking about it and help from all the countries around there to try and get a solution to this. not only sanctions being tightened and oil turned off as much as possible and also no nuclear weapons and iran cannot have nuclear weapons and i don't know whether he's allowed --
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president's elaborated on that or not. what do you think? we have problems with all their people they support, the houthis and hamas and people in hezbollah and lebanon and staying with president trump and keeping him in a situation where he's got a chance to get some answer to this. so stay with him and give him a opportunity to do whatever he needs to do to gloat a collusion to challengers bog on in the middle east. larry: senate xx tommy tuckerville, thank you ever so much, sir. we appreciate it. moving along in washington dc. joining us now is cliff ton and going for them and i see that.
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you've grown in the super star. you ragaini about that and going for them. the five year tax cut extension and going for them and why, why do we have cbo just admitted that i was looking at your report and cbo admitted that the revenues came in almost 2 trillion higher than predicted. he's reporting on that and telling us if we cut taxes revenues go down and acknowledged they'll go up. >> larry, there's a reason the thin majority in house of republicantives and moderates and spending cuts and -- representatives and conservatives that want spindling cuts and going with gdp and getting this plan and going to get them down and
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you've got to get that spending down and what happened was covid came, spending came up, and it hasn't come fully down. the reconciliation bill in a opportunity to make more spending cuts in there and turning the rubix cube and house putting together to get 10 year tax cuts and if they don't get a plan together this week, the senate is going to take away the one big beautiful bill and start doing a two bill strategy overall. lyric those members, you're saying the house. >> one in the house right now, yeah. larry: to me, look, don't get me wrong, i want to limit government spending as a share of gdp, which is 24%, almost 25% and she's come back to 20%. we should be cut ago couple of trillion out of the budget and excluding big entitle wants over the next 10 years.
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they're abandoned the laffer curve and the laffer curve that brought us here. every success that gop has had with lower taxes and better economic growth. you can even -- i'm going to include john f. kennedy. >> i agree. larry: go to kennedy, reagan, even a little bit bill clinton who signed onto capital gains tax cut and then go to donald trump. i mean, that's the laffer curve. >> i've learned from you. and that's at the beginning and then that's great. now talking to all the members and trying to understand where they're coming from. i don't think anybody has abandoned the laffer curving on the right. they're saying more spending cuts and we need to see what elon musk is doing with doge. see what scott wants to cut on
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them and fraud on the show and going to expire on december 31sr them. they have time to get this right. throws cold water on it and this is the first step moving through the house and that process is going to play out over time. if we get big bank tax reform and extending going to have 100% expense rate and america going to boom. going to get there. larry: scot bessent talking about 3, 3, 3 and one of them is the cbo baseline 1.8 or 1.9
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>> there's a push for spending reform and holding up the process right now. larry: did you see any opening interview? >> i thought it was amazing and we want your capitol and investment. >> we done want the government spending model and it's a very pro both administration and they're going to give confidence to the versus frequency neuros to make those investments. >> one example is energy and waving emission requirements on lng and 2, 3 billion terminals getting built and not $1 in public subsidy and increasing america's energy power and leading to more exports in diplomacy around the world. larry: i think on interest rates and these are all things your clients are interested in and wall street interested in on tariffs and we have a minute left. but just off the tom of your head. what were you hearing? >> look at where the 10-year raise is at. 4-4, going from 4-9 to 4.4 when
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trump came in and market is buying in to the idea of having strong growth and doesn't have to be inflationary. i will remind you tariffs went up on china on tuesday and bond yields continue to come down. the market is saying that these are not inflationary, and the message is really about what the fed is going to do. is the fed going to misinterpret these tariff increases like in 2018? that's where the mistake would come from. i don't think that's going to be the case and the bond market will lead them there. i'm very optimistic where we're headed right now. larry: long term yields went up and fed pushed rates down, which was a mistake and now long term rates are coming back down because i think they basically like the message, economic message coming out of the president trump and his gang. i think they like it. >> that's right. larry: dan cliff ton, best of the best. >> larry, enjoy your time in washington. larry: sort of. president trump owns the senate now, at least he's got major clout and seems to be getting
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all of the nominees through and already 11 of the cabinet member haves been confirmed, pam bondi sworn in today as attorney general. here's what president trump had to say about the new ag. take a listen, please. >> thrilled to be here today with our nation's next incredible and she will be incredible, attorney general of the united states, pam bondi. i want to congratulate pam. she's worked hard, so hard and unbelievably fair and unbelievably good at law enforcement. i just want to congratulate you. very special person. >> thank you. larry: pam bondi is a friend and a superstar, and she has a long list. she's going to hit the ground immediately with a long list of issues in the ag's office. joining us now to talk about a lot of this in general, my great friend byron york, chief political correspondent at washington examiner and fox news
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contributor. thank you, byron. i want to step back for a second and a couple three weeks ago, it didn't look like mr. trump would get all the noms through. it didn't look like pete hegseth would get through, didn't look like tulsi -- now, tulsi gabbard, they haven't voted on the floor of the senate yet. but feels like mr. trump is having his way with the senate. >> it's absolutely true and big reason is he's got 53 seats. if he had just 51, might be more difficult. now, we should say the matt gaetz thing didn't happen but after that, when people looked at pete hegseth, looked at tulsi gabbard and rfk jr. thinking man, they're not all going to make it. now, the hegseth thing was a little closer than i thought. 50/50. had to break the tie from the vice president. now what we've seen is the republicans were worried about the committee votes for ba ba guard and rfk -- gabbard and rfk and they got through.
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does not appear there's three republican senators in the whole senate that will vote against them. so i belief it was this morning, jason miller, who's a top aid in the trump white houssaying this day in 2017, the senate had fully confirmed four trump nominees and now it's more than 11. larry: you know, it is interesting, does john thune get any credit for this or is it as somebody put it to me yesterday, really president trump repeatedly talking to senators, going to capitol hill, being unafraid to get involved, and of course with his super energy all the time? >> thune gets some credit. trump get as lot more credit. most credit goes to the 2024 election. every single republican senator comes from a state that trump won. one exception being susan colins in maine, but even in maine, trump won that little district
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and got one electoral vote. but all the others came from states that trump won. my voters voted solidly for donald trump so am i going to nuke one of his premier nominations? i don't think so. larry: so now at least partly the action will turn to the budget and the taxes and fiscal policy and things look very difficult in the house. we're hearing different rumors about a five year extension, not a 10 year extension. but what are you hearing about this and will president trump have to exercise this same amount of influence that he had put into the senate for the nominations? now he's got to go to the house and hammer out his own bill. so far i'm not hearing him retreat on any of his campaign prosperity. >> no, on this reconciliation thing, it's one big beautiful bill. two bills and he's left it publicly to congress so far and
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the problem in the house is when elise stefanik resigned but not yet and going for the balance in the house is 217 republicans to 215 democrats. even losing one vote and still win. now first they're having an election in florida, and you're going to get two republican members of the house replacing gaetz and mike waltz. till then, closer margin ever in the history of the world. larry: very close for him. then again, by april, you know what happens in april, byron? it gets warmer and sun comes out, the snow melts. things are much easier. >> people have to pay taxes too. larry: that too. byron, you're the best of the best. thank you. coming up, talking to cynthia lummis about de-banking among
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other things. de-banking, she knows enough about that. we haven't talked about it enough on the show. we'll be right back. ♪ chocolate fundraiser. ♪ with the chase mobile app, things move a little more smoothly. ♪ deposit checks easily and send money quickly. [coins clinking] ♪ that's convenience from chase. make more of what's yours.
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today. going back and covering this a bit on the show. debanking, this was biden regulatory boots on the banks conservatives, christians, oil loans, and crypto. i know you're on. can they blame biden, and now maybe the boots off the neck or some legislation necessary? >> well, certainly the bank supervision el telling bank examers are going to accessoriesing based on beliefs on whether a bank. and we discovered at fed.
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unelected bureaucrats and going after bank customers choosing who can have a bank account and which businesses going out of business and these little bank examiners didn't like the business. we know the government was part of it. we need to find out further whether the banks themselves war part of it and whether the debanking was actually directed by the executive branch of our government. access to the fed and certain new people at the federal division on bank supervision con if i wered by the senate. what we do know is there's inadequate oversight of the bank supervision function at the federal reserve.
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larry: they were going after conservatives, christians, gun companies, oil companies. just going hog wild. >> hog wild. larry: trump troubles me and we won't solve it today. so many of the board staff and these banking regulations and they all gave and donate money to democrats. over 80% of them and we have to ask yourself you might need legislation at some point down the road and leveling the playing field and stop all the nonsense. >> yeah, that's what we're trying to find out now is you want to reveal and showing light on trump 2.0 was a real thing and then we'll figure out how to deal with it. larry: senate sore sink that lu -- senator cynthia lummis, great state ofway. of wyoming. thank you, muhammad ali. muhammad ali. i'll be right back -- muhammad ali. i'll be -- ma'am, i'll be right back with my last word.
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larry: so, i mean, it was a pleasure, scott bessent, new treasury man. sounded like he's a pro-growth, a tax-cutting, sound-dollar guy to maine we'll see how it plays out. anyway, we'll let liz macdonald judge also. elizabeth: we'll figure it out too, larry, thank you so much. welcome to "the the evening the evening edit." weaver got news coming in. i'm elizabeth macdonald. >> we will win, we won't rest -- >> no one elected elon musk! >> elon musk is a nazi, nutball baby! elizabeth: democrats protesting cutting government waste? new government dat
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