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rubio stressed this is the beginning of finding a solution acceptable to all sides. national security advisor michael walz also commenting. watch this. >> this needs to be a permanent end to the war and not a temporary end as we've seen in the past. the death and destruction that is happening as this war goes on and on, month after month after month and the killing fields of eastern and southern ukraine is unacceptable. it is not in the interest of either country. it's not in the interest of the world and certainly not in the interest of the united states and europe. maria: president trump suggesting a potential change in power in ukraine which multiple foreign diplomatic sources say could be part of any peace deal. watch this. >> we have a situation where we haven't had elections in ukraine, where we hav have marsl

law in ukraine, the leader in ukraine is down to 4% approval rating and the country is blown to smithere, ns. i like him personally. i don't care about personally. i care about getting the job done. we have leadership that allowed the war to go down that should have never happened, even without the united states. maria: president zelenskyy says he will not accept any outcome without being part of the conversation. trump addressed that concern as well. watch. >> they've had a seat for three years and a long time before that. this could have been settled very easily. just a half-baked negotiator could have settled this years ago, i think without the loss of much land, very little land, without the loss of any lives, and without the loss of cities that are just laying on their sides. maria: the president also says he will, quote, probably meet with vladimir putin this month. no official date has been set so

far. a lot of moving parts here. your thoughts, brianna. >> we have to remember, president joe biden, he drained our strategic arms reserves in order to fund an endless war that this no end. zelenskyy says he wants to be part of it. you don't get to make the determination when you have sucked the american taxpayer dry. we have defend and justified sending the money to ukraine because they're supposedly the lone bull work of democracy over there. they have not held elections. they don't have free press. the ukrainian people are not happy. in order for president trump to fulfill the promises, he should require new elections in ukraine as part of the peace deal, he should say zelenskyy, you may have a say but you're not the final determining factor. maria: i love this deal about the minerals. finally, somebody comes in and says sure, ukraine, we'll support you but we need to get something in return. and the president is talking about ukraine as a condition must transfer 50% of all revenues from resource extraction licenses to the

united states. joe, that's effectively giving washington a financial stake in the economy of kyiv. >> we already have a financial stake in the economy of kyiv but it's a one way street, the money is going from us to them and if there was a balance there, you might see more american support. i made the mistake of browsing x to see what people are saying about trump's comments and his commitment to meet with putin and you would think it was like the movie the 10 commandments when the sacred cow gets broken up because they're freaking out. they can't accept the fact that someone who is uncouth in their estimation is bringing about the peace deal that should have happened two years ago when it was clear that ukraine can't repel russia without significant and consistent u.s. intervention. that was clear two years ago. nothing's changed and that's what i think president trump is correct about saying is zelenskyy, you could have been here negotiating this peace deal when it was clear this war was unwinable. maria: it's a good point that the president made, you're right. adam. >> what i find fascinating is

the composition of the team that's trying to put this deal together. the u.s., russia, and saudi arabia. which also happened to be the three largest oil producers in the world. that's the common link. so there's some sort of realignment that's happening along -- it's a petro deal, right? if you get the three biggest producers in the world and they're trying to create peace, that to me is actually far more interesting than what happens with ukraine. ukraine is incidental. there's some sort of realignment that's happening. i don't know enough to know. i don't think any of us know enough to know but it's a strong statement to china that there's a realignment happening. china thought russia was on its side. what if now all of a sudden there's some sort of thawing of relations between the u.s. and russia and, again, curiously, that saudi arabia is part of it as the third largest producer. maria: when you look at the mediators in the hamas, israel war, the qataris, the largest lng exporter as well. that's a great point you made.

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government agencies, including the federal election commission, the fcc and securities and exchange commission and the ftc, federal trade commission, these agencies must submit major regulations for review before putting them in the federal register. the wall street journal noting the federal reserve's handling of interest rate policy will be exempt from the order but ill will call for oversight of the fed's other responsibilities including regulating and supervising banks. greg, we all know how president trump feels about deregulation and putting new rules and regulations in place and he is playing this out with this new executive order. your reaction? >> sure, no, i read the executive order. you know, i was obviously happy to and not surprised that he carved out with regard to the fed the notion of monetary policy but if you read the executive order, it is certainly in my opinion within the spirit of what this president is trying to do, what he's been elected to

do. he references the constitution, the executive branch, and he is the head of the executive branch. so even independent agencies over time which we know under other administrations have gone off and perhaps had agendas of their own in terms of what they're trying to do relative to holistically what the government is trying to do and that's a problem with moving big things forward. having some sort of oversight or communication with independent agencies in my view is not a problem. with regard to the fed specifically, you know, mandated by dodd-frank we have a supervisory chairman, randy quarrels was the first one, my carmichael barr was the most ret one. mr. b barr resigned when the president was elected. the president has an opportunity

to appoint a s supervisory chairman with the approval of the senate. he's probably going to choose someone that aligns with him. if you listen to chair powell's testimony on the hill recently, they seem to be aligned in terms of looking at some of these bank regulations, what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. maria: but greg, i'm reading a td cowen note this morning and the analyst there says we expect a legal challenge to these orders. it is why a judge could block them in the near term, as the case advances to the supreme court on the extent of the president's power. there's a risk to financial firms from this white house directive as we expect advocacy groups will argue the white house order invalidates rule changes that were subject to improper reviews by team trump. >> i am of the opinion that the president is comfortable within that vein. i think he's comfortable in terms of testing waters. i think he's also comfortable with the fact that some of what

he's doing now, not just with regard to this executive order, will wind up in the courts and will play itself out so it's going to be bumpy, it's certainly going to be messy. we're trying to do a lot at the same time. but i think the president is comfortable in that vein and i think markets and institutions need to get used to the fact that this is going to be the way forward at least in the short term. maria: we'll see if it creates litigation, years of litigation until the supreme court gives us clarity there. i want to talk airline stocks, adam. mixed this morning with southwest airlines cutting 15% of its corporate workforce including 1 11 senior leadershp positions, the ceo said the carrier is striving to build a leaner and more agile organization, expected to save $210 million a year. adam, you've got cost cutting going on in the airline industry for sure. >> you sure do, $200 million of savings this year, $300 million projected for next year and this

is happening as southwest is getting rid of open seating so it's no longer going to be the cattle call that it's always been. it's going to be like every other airline where there's assigned seating. a lot of changes in southwest, it's an attempt to drive profitability. it's a notoriously hard business, the airlines. delta, we talked about my love for delta not just as a flying experience but as an investor, it's a brilliantly run airline, it's the only one i've ever owned. the airline business is notoriously difficult. it's why warren buffet won't touch the airlines. the substory going on here is that elliott associates erk which is an activist investor, is taking a large position in southwest. effectively they have a beneficiary interest in the company. so here you have an activist investor that is forcing change and doing so quite forcefully and perhaps quite effectively. i won't buy southwest.

i would rather own delta. but again, that's another one of the sort of sub stories that's happening here, a activist investing. maria: what do you make of bill ackman's plan, proposing a deal to increase the stake in howard hughes holdings. they would increase the stake to 48%. ackman wrote on x that this would, quote, create a modern day berkshire hathaway, adam. >> fascinating concept and yet another activist investor taking a large position in a company that he wants to remake in his own image. could it be another berkshire hathaway? i'm not sure how we get there. berkshire hathaway is such a coming together of so many different companies and what's left of howard hughes is much narrower but yeah, an interesting story and again, activist investors. we have an activist president getting far more involved, right, in the daily workings of

government and we have activist investors on wall street. that's just a curious sort of theme of the moment. maria: interesting. gregory, any thoughts? >> yeah, sure. i mean, look, i think adam hit the nail on the head. bill ackman has been around for a long time. activism is the theme of the moment. i'm sure he's looking at not only his portfolio but he's looking at his time and place in life, you look at someone like warren buffet who is years ahead and you look at the investment horizon right now. valuations across the board are fairly stretched so it's really not necessarily going up anymore. it's trying to spread out going a little bit horizontal and if i had to gue guess, he's looking o diversify and looking at the next five, 10, 115 years and looking at the change in the administration and where the opportunities will be in the short-term and over the next four years. maria: that's a great point. gregory, good to see you this morning. thank you, sir. >> good to see you, maria.

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maria: welcome back. the u.s. and russia laying the ground work to end the war in ukraine after talks in saudi arabia yesterday. the agreement calls for including appointing high level teams to begin talks, discuss economic diplomatic outcomes and restaff embassies. marco rubio stressing this is the beginning of finding a solution acceptable to all side. one sticking point includes new presidential elections in ukraine. here's president trump on that. >> we have a situation where we haven't had elections in ukraine, where we have martial law in ukraine, where the leader in ukraine -- i wait to say it

but he's at 4% approval rating and the country has been blown to smitheree next s. i like him personally. he's fine. but i don't care about personally. i care about getting the job done. you have leadership now that's allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the united states. maria: trump says he could meet with vladimir putin before the end of february. joining me now is the head of the global maminski justice campaign, sir bill browder. bilker it's good to see you this morning, thank you for being here. you've had plenty of run-ins with vladimir putin. give us your reaction to all of this. >> vladimir putin -- so my run-ins with vladimir putin was he murdered my lawyer and a bunch of other people and he's been chasing me around the world ever since with death threats and so on and so i know vladimir putin very well and he's a very bad guy, a man who shouldn't be trusted and so when i'm watching this whole thing playing itself

out, i'm thinking to myself that we need to be more supportive of ukraine who are the victims and a little bit less chummy with putin who is the aggressor in this whole situation. i find that at the end of the day, putin could end this war right this minute by just stopping. that's the thing. ukraine is defending, putin is attacking and he can stop so that's what we should be pushing for. maria: it's a great point that you make and, you know, it certainly felt in those comments from president trump that he was more critical of zelenskyy, certainly noting his lack of pop layer at th -- popularity with % number in terms of potential for elections. >> that number comes out of thin air. there's no 4% number. zelenskyy has 52% approval rating, not 4% approval rating. they're under attack. the reason they have martial law

is because the country's been invaded. they have air strikes every day from russia. i think it's highly unfair for him to be critical of the victim. he should be critical of the person who is launching the air strikes. maria: when you think about approval for vladimir putin, what are you going to say when you get the phone call, what do you think of vladimir putin, you better say you love him. i don't believe anything on the russia side either in terms of approval of vladimir putin. but what's your take on ukraine not even being part of that peace talk yesterday? i mean, president trump has made the point, look, he's been part of the talks for three years but zelenskyy makes the point that he wasn't at the table in saudi arabia and he says he's not going to accept any outcome without being part of the talks. here's what president trump said about that. watch. >> they've had a seat for three years and a long time before that. this could have been settled invesvery easily. just a half baked negotiators could have settled this years ago without -- i think without the loss of much land, very

little land, without the loss of any lives and without the loss of cities that are just laying on their sides. maria: what do you think, bill? zelenskyy later canceled his own schedule to visit saudi arabia following the talks. >> well, the whole thing, again, is -- putin invaded ukraine. putin thought he was going to win in three days and he didn't and why dent didn't he win in e days? because the ukrainians bravely fought back, they said we don't want you to invade our country, kill our men, rape our women, kidnap our children. this wasn't a time for negotiation. this was a time for them to defend themselves so there was no chance for any negotiation to happen. this was a brutal dictatorship invading a peaceful neighbor who didn't want to be invaded and so i think president trump is being unfair to vladimir zelenskyy.

it pains me to hear him saying these things. i think he should be supporting the victim in this thing, the democratically elected victim. individual individual has been a dictator for 25 years, he's taken over georgia, carpet bombed syria. we need to understand who the good guys are and who the bad guy is here. ukraine is the good guy and putin is the bad guy. maria: americans are frustrated with all of the hundreds of billions of dollars having been sent to ukraine with no end in sight. i mean, what would you advise? officials have discussed economic sanctions placed on russia by the biden administration at the start of the war. here's secretary of state marco rubio on that. watch this. >> there are sanctions that were imposed as a result of this conflict. and so i would say to you that in order to bring an end to any conflict, there has to be concessions made by all sides and there are other parties that have sanctions. european union is going to have to be at the table at some point because they have san sanctions.

maria: what happens if the sanctions are removed, bill? how do you see this playing out? >> i think it would be a disaster if the sanctions are removed. the sanctions are putting pressure on putin -- putting economic pressure on him which is obviously doesn't like. i have a solution for this whole thing which i think president trump would like which is that when the war first started we froze -- we meaning the united states, the european union, u.k., et cetera, froze $300 billion of russian central bank reserves. that money is sitting in the west. and to the extent that everybody is upset with the cost of this war and that's a justified feeling, why don't we in order to continue to help ukraine, why don't we take the money from vladimir putin, the $300 billion and use that to fund their defense of -- fund the ukrainians' defense. guess where the money will be spent? it will be spent on u.s. defense manufacturers. it's like a win, win, win. ukraine gets the money to defend

themselves, we don't spend more men, vladimir putin pays for it and the u.s. companies make a lot of money. how could donald trump not like that? maria: you know that russia's not going to like that. what are your thoughts on what the president has put together in terms of the rare earth minerals in ukraine. there's some key conditions for continued support for ukraine. according to sources in this, ukraine must transfer 50% of all revenues from resource extraction licenses to the united states. the investment fund for reconstruction will have exclusive powers to issue and manage licenses for that resource extraction. the u.s. will have the right of first refusal to purchase any minerals exported before ukraine can sell them to other countries. your thoughts? >> well, first of all, it further reads, and this is to pay back some exaggerated number that everybody thinks the united states has given ukraine so this is not for the future of ukraine. this is to pay back what the united states gave before. and what i'll say is that first

of all, this is like war reparations from ukraine who is the victim. rush sha should be hand -- russia should be handing over their natural resources for the money we spent, not ukraine. ukraine needs to rebuild and defend themselves. to punish ukraine for the military aid we've given before seems a highly unsympathetic position. i'm not being partisan here. i was at the munich security conference last weekend. i was meeting with democrat senators and republican senators and there's no difference in the position on supporting ukraine. ukraine are the victims here. putin is the criminal here. and that's how we have to look at this whole thing. maria: and russia is being supported now by china. >> russia's being supported by china. russia's being supported by iran and russia's being supported by north korea. this is the leading bad guys and we're the good guys. we should be siding with the

good guys. maria: you want to say anything about mcnitski your lawyer who was murdered by vladimir putin and where you are today in terms of putin trying to hunt you down? are you still afraid for your own life? >> absolutely. so in 2009 my lawyer was murdered for uncovering a corruption scheme in which vladimir putin was a personal beneficiary. he was murdered. i wasn't going to accept his murder and i launched a campaign to get justice for him and the campaign led to something called the magninski act, passed in the united states in 2012. it's been passed in canada, the eu, 35 countries have it. it's led to the freezing of assets around the world so putin doesn't like me because he values his money and i was responsible for freezing a lot of it and that's how we have to deal with vladimir putin, not be nice to him. be tough with him. maria: bill, all fair points.

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>> what can you tell out bows the cia drone flights over mexico? is this the next step in the war against the cartels. >> we're going to see. >> do they have authority to take lethal action. >> mexico is allowed tremendous number of people to go through their country into ours and even people coming from mexico and illegals, totally illegal. they've allowed people to empty jails into mexico and then let

them come through with this totally ridiculous open border policy of the biden administration. i think mexico's largely run by the cartels. that's a sad thing to say. and if they wanted help with that we would give them help. maria: president trump offering to help mexico combat the drug cartels, his administration designating sinola tren de aragua, ms13 and other gangs as terrorist organizations, the border crackdown showing results. only 29,000 encounters recorded last month, that's the lowest number seen at the southern border since may of 2020. texas department of public safety announcing 218 encounters happened across the stay on monday. the same day last year, 1,285 people crossed. as the trump administration is sent money for immigration, the upper chamber holding a vote on a $345 million budget resolution including more money for the border, defense spending and the coast guard.

joining me is oklahoma senator, member of the senate homeland security committee, james langford. good to see you. thank you for being here. >> good to see you. good morning. maria: where are you on the budget resolution? the house has its own view of things and has a big bill which includes the tax extensions as well. >> yeah, great. let's keep moving on it. the senate has one option to be able to say let's work on the first things first, we have a lot of work to do on the tax portion of it so our first priority is to say what are we doing with border security, national defense and are we doing the things president trump said he was going to do. let's get it as quick as we can while working on the tax issues. we don't have a problem between the house and the senate at this point. we want to accomplish the same thing. we want to figure out the best route to get there right now. maria: do you expect the bill to get to the president's desk can by the march 14th deadline? >> so there's a whole bunch of deadlines. this is part of the challenge we have. we have the march 14th

deadline is the funding for the full year. that's the 1 12 bills that shoud have been done last year but chuck schumer never got those to the floor of the senate. that's a separate issue. what we're trying to work on is the border security portion, some of the defense portion on trying to get at least those done but we have three and-a-half weeks before the next piece has to be done still. maria: because newt gingrich was saying that if you don't address the tax extensions by june, you're going to have a problem in terms of getting that done. do you foresee an issue in terms of extending the tax cuts? >> no, we should be able to get them done. we should be able to get them done by the summer. there's a lot of work that started last year. all the tax pieces, whether corporate, small business, individuals, international tax, we worked on those quite a bit, starting last year. so we're ready to move on several issues, just the final negotiations in the senate and

negotiateing with the house to be able to get it done. maria: and i know the border, how do you deal with the drug cartels if they're in fact running mexico as president trump just suggested? >> yeah, the northern states of mexico have the same state department designation as syria and yemen and iran. they're violent places that are not safe for any american to go, those northern states that are right along our border from california to texas. they've been run by cartels for a long time. that is an area that the mexican federallies do not go in the same level as they go in other areas and that's the area that president trump is pointing out saying they've lost control of their northern border which is affecting our southern border. so if mexico doesn't get a handle on their northern border, we're going to continue to be able to fight our southern border and what president trump is offering is we'll help you because helping them on the northern border helps us on ours. maria: of course. but this is dangerous, knowing that it's -- that the cartels are in charge of mexico.

>> it is. actually, that northern border of mexico, the sinola cartel which president trump designated a terrorist organization, they've been in a leadership fight. they have drones attacking each other, military style weapons, dropping aerial bombs on each other, it's a full scale war with the cartel fighting for leadership with each other with heavy, military style weapons. maria: let's talk doge for a moment. a judge rejecting doge's access to federal data. doge identified a savings of $55 billion so far and elon musk has floated the idea of a doge dividend to president trump which give taxpayers $5,000 check funded by doge's savings. you've released a doge playbook detailing federal spending fumbles. tell us about that and your reaction to doge.

>> yeah. i'm pleased to be able to see more folks in the party, this is an area i worked on for 10 years to focus on government inefficiency, government waste, we put out the bo book every yer to identify some areas that doge identified and meeting with president trump and the conversation that elon musk had, that conversation detailed some of the things we've had in federal fumbles for years. i'm pleased to have more help in the kitchen at this point trying to be able to get stuff done. i think the american people don't want to just see a check coming back, they want to see the debt and deficit come down. you want to fight for inflation long-term, we have to fight deficit spending. we need be able to drill down on it. until we're able to get rid of $2 trillion in overspending, let's not get eager to send more money out. i'm pleased elon musk is giving his time as a white house staff member to jump in and help president trump in this case. maria: this cost cutting and

identifying waste has been obviously incredibly successful but you still have to come up with offsets to ensure you have money for defense and the border and everything else in brume's ppresidenttrump's agenda. have you i'd tie identified the. >> you're not going to get it balance inned a single year but we can make a huge jump on this but areas of what's called improper payments whether that be in medicaid, medicare, where there's over $100 billion in improper payments that they can't track, there's about $10 billion in improper payments on snap, people don't have an argument with food stamps and benefits for getting it to folks that need it. they have a problem with 10 billion that's going out and we don't know if they qualify or not. we can make forward progress. obviously president trump is laying off the folks that are probationary employees. that's an enormous number on if

federal workforce. there's a lot happening trying to make progress quickly. we have to chip away through legislative action and we're going to bring that over the next several months. maria: sounds like even the quote, unquote, mandatory spending has some areas to clean up and do away with waste. three major trust funds are facing looming insolvency, social security retirement in 2033, medicare in 2036 and highways in 2028 with 76% of the spending going to mandatory programs. have you come to the conclusion that you're going to have to go there? >> we are. we have to be able to go there. it doesn't mean reducing benefits. it means going after improper payments and fraud. if we have too many employees in one area, why don't we have that and if the wrong people are in the wrong place, move them to the right place to make sure we can make this work. there's a lot that can be done and can be done quickly and the president's taken this on. obviously we're a month into his presidency at this point. and we've seen tremendous turn in the spending and the american

people keep coming back over and over again saying please reduce the government way. waste. i don't mind my tax dollars going to education, defense and transportation. i don't want it going to waste. maria: what about the new executive order where the president is basically saying look, these independent agencies are not going to be so independent and they're going to be subject to the same white house control as other government departments. you've got to check with the white house before putting any new rules in place for the fdic, the occ, your thoughts? >> so i just about stood in the chair and started cheering when this came out yesterday. this is an area i worked on for years, i had independent agencies come before me and say independent agencies aren't independent of oversight. they said we're independent, we can do what we want. they're not a fourth branch of government that's doing whatever tthey want. we have checks and balances.

they fall under the executive branch. they have a responsibility that if you're going to release a new regulation, especially a major regulation that's going to affect our economy, that has to be checked by the executive branch, has to go through the system. they're not independent of everyone else. they're not outside of the norm on this. they should face accountability. this is not a matter of president trump showing up at their desk and telling them what to do every day but if they're putting out a major regulation it should be checked. maria: i'm not sure if you saw my last interview with bill browder but he feels that russia is the enemy here, not ukraine and president trump says he will probably meet with russia's vladimir putin before the end of the month following the talks between u.s. and russian officials? saudi arabia. last week the president called on russia and china to cut defense spending and meet for denuclearization talks. your reaction. >> glad to have the president engaging, that's a good thing to be able to v we literally have nuclear weapons pointed at each other so it's a good thing for

to us be able to sit down, make sure we're bringing the temperature down but it's absolutely clear who is the friend an foe in this, ukraine is the friend. russia is getting their weapons from iran, from north korea and support from china. that's not hard to be able to see what that alliance looks like. so we should make it clear who is friend and foe here. it's not an issue of sitting down with a foe and saying let's turn down the volume. maria: of course. good to see you this morning. thanks so much. >> you bet. maria: quick break and then rebuilding california, i spoke with former los angeles mayoral candidate rick cay carusso abos future in politics. kamala harris is exploring whether or not to run for governor. do you expect you'll be up against kamala harris in a primary. >> i want to help. i don't want to do it through the lens of politics. i want to do it through a lens as a member of the community. maria: more of that interview coming up in the next hour. don't miss it. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us. i'm thinking of updating my kitchen...

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maria: welcome back. shocking new video from the toronto plane crash where all 80 passengers and crew survived a delta jet flipping over upon landing. cheryl casone with the details. cheryl. >> maria, we've got new video to show you. the jet crashed at toronto's pearson airport monday

afternoon. new video from the cockpit of a plane nearby shows the moment a zeal take flight inbound from minneapolis has what experts describe as a hard landing on the snowy runway before flipping upside down with flames visible around it. all 76 passengers and four crew evacuated safely before another blaze started. 21 passengers injured ranging from minor to critical. none of the injuries are life threatening. another video shows evacuation from inside. listen care flow the flight attendant. >> drop everything. drop it. come on. don't take anything. put that phone away. on the slide. >> holy [bleep]. holy [bleep] >> put the phone away is what she was saying. an investigation into the crash is underway. the ntsb is assisting canadian aviation authorities that are leading the probe.

hamas announcing it will release six living hostages on saturday and give israel the bodies of four others tomorrow as part of the cease fire agreement. the dead include the bevis family, two young boys and their mother, sheri. they were taken captive during the october 7th attack and have become symbols of the hostage crisis. iisrael has not confirmed their deaths and is expected to release palestinian prisoners in return. hamas holds dozens more hostages. the vatican announced pope francis is doing well following a pneumoya diagnosis. all events through sunday have been canceled. he remains in good spirits while he stays at the hospital in rome. he's asking for continued prayers on his behalf as supporters are gathering around that hospital. finally, this. mark zuckerberg's philanthropy, the chan, zuckerberg initiative is ending programs focused on

dei, diversity, equity and inclusion efforts, this is after meta his company ended the programs to, quote, ensure the company builds teams with the most talented people. the coo e-mailed staff last night with the announcement. this is another example -- we've talked about corporations doing it. we know dei is pulled out of government. we're looking at philanthropy led by mark zuckerberg. maria: we're back to merit based performance. what's wrong with that. >> yeah. the thought that you could actually use discrimination to fight discrimination, i mean, wow. thank goodness dei is die, dead. >> is it really dead? three of the individuals at the philanthropy have transferred to another role. target did a rebrand. they moved dei individuals into other roles. are they committed to rooting out dei or are they trying to swing the pendulum right now. >> i hope the individuals will pivot and apply their tall events. talents.>> i think the safer bo

follow the lead of the u.s. government. that would be my opinion. >> i'm happy what's old is new, that like billionaires are going back to philanthropy that involves helping poor people or sick children and things like that and not trying to engineer social systems. maria: stop trying to manipulate election, how about that? let's get to the weather, another winter storm moving through the mid-atlantic and southeast, some areas affected by hurricane helene will likely see snow today. fox weather meteorologist britta merwin with an update. >> good morning, maria. this out morning out of boone north carolina we have robert ray covering the relief efforts and recovery. snow is tough, especially for an area recovering from a hurricane. the snow today reaching into the south, schools are canceled in huntsville, alabama where we're tracking snow this morning on fox weather. the next phase is pushing into the mid-atlantic, parts of coastal north carolina and virginia looking at snow and ice and for virginia we could see

over 6 inches of snow between richmond and virginia beach on top of that, maria, it is bittery cold, it will remain cold through the weekend but hopefully by the end of february, warmer things ahead. maria: we'll look forward to that. thank you, britta. stay with us. we'll be right back. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us. ♪ [sofi mnemonic] can a personal loan unlock your ambitions? oh yeah. borrow up to a hundred thousand dollars to consolidate bad debt and save money for your next goal. take a swing at your kitchen reno... meant that literally. or design your actual dream wedding. consolidate bad debt and fund all your ambitions with a sofi personal loan. go to sofi.com to view your rate. sofi. get your money right.