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office a, right now you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines a because you have manpower problems. you should be thanking the president for -- [inaudible conversations] >> don't tell us what we're going to to feel. >> i'm not telling you -- >> because you're no no -- in no position to dictate that. you're in to no position to dictate what we're going to feel. you don't have the cards right now. with us, you still have -- >> i'm not plague cards. >> right now you're playing cards. >> i'm very serious, mr. president. i'm the president -- >> you're gambling with world war iii. you're gambling with world war iii, and what you're doing is very dis. respectful to the country. if. elizabeth: reaction pouring in on an extraordinary public fight. analysts say ukraine's zelenskyy started birdies respecting vice president vance, disrespecting the president and the oval office, leading to the president pulling back at peace and prosperity deal and asking

zelenskyy to leave the white house. tonight we dig into what foreign policy pros warn is at a stake. polls show the majority of americans want the u.s. to stop prolonging the ukraine-russia a war with more u.s. military aid and funding. u.s. lawmakers agree the u.s. cannot negotiate with zelenskyy. reaction from all sides. fox news analyst greg jarrett is here to to break this down and what happens next. also we do a nonpartisan analysis of the democrat and media hot takes and thousand heir -- how they're misleading america. also this story for you. >> the gaslighting, there was a lot of denial of the polling, and i will use the term gaslight, because that's what they were doing, the campaign, former colleagues. elizabeth: whoa. jill biden's former press secretary, her positionman, now admits that, yes -- spokesman -- now admits, yes, president biden and the biden white house did cover up joe biden's rapid decline, and they were, quote,

gaslighting america, gaslighting voters. we've got the full sound, andhorse cooper's going to -- horace cooper a's going to break it down. plus, who joe biden really blamed for the democrat party's 2024 historic election loss. we've got a hint, it's not kamala harris. but first, this -- fireworks in the oval office. ukraine's zelenskyy picked a fight with president trump and vice president vance. it went from cordial to tense when the ukrainian leader pushed back on vice president vance. the president's peace and prosperity minerals deal development collapsed, and president trump asked zelenskyy to leave the white house. let's take you right now to edward lawrence standing by live at the white house. edward, you were inside the room. what's happening now in. >> reporter: yeah. right now the president about to leave the white house. he's going to mar-a-lago. marine one has just landed on the south lawn. he is going to go on his vacation. president zelenskyy is at his

hotel. he has not left washington, d.c. as of yet, but he came here to sign an economic joint venture, and now he's leaving wonnerring if he even has -- wondering if he even has the backing of the united states. president trump kicking him out of the white house. now, the economic deal which would have been the foundation for a larger peace agreement was left unsignedful president trump warned e eleven sky that he's playing with world war iii if he's not open to a ceasefire. >> you're not winning. you're not winning this. >> i -- >> you have a damn good chance coming out okay -- >> mr. president, we are staying in our country, staying strong from the very beginning of the war we've been alone, and we are thankfulful -- i said thanks in this do -- >> you haven't been a alone. we gave you under a stupid president $350 billion -- >> you -- [inaudible] >> [inaudible conversations] >> your men are brave, but hay had to use our military -- if you didn't have our military equipment -- >> you invited me to -- >> -- you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two

weeks -- >> in three days, i heard it from putin finish. >> maybe less. >> -- in who to weeks. of course, yes. >> it's going to be a hard thing to do business like n i tell yo- >> say thank you, accept that -- [inaudible conversations] >> reporter: yeah. is you heard it there, the president said it's very hard to do business like. this now, it seems the entire conversation turned on security guarantees. every time president trump made the point that the economic deal with long-term security guarantee for ukraine, you would' zelenskyy shake his head, and that got urn the skin of the vice president add zelenskyy post on, and after a thanking the american people, the president and congress vowing he is working towards peace. maybe that's the first step in redemption, but as of right now, president trump is about to leave the white house if washington, d.c., and zelenskyy's about to go back to ukraine. elizabeth: edward lawrence, great journal is im. thank you so much. let's take a listen, watch this. >> -- respond to this. so is, look, for four years the

united states of america, we had a president who when stood up at press conferences and talked tough about a vladimir if putin, and then putin invaded ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. we tried the pathway of joe biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the united states' words matteredded more than the president of the quites' actions. what makes -- the president of the united states' actions. what makes a good country is engaging in diplomacy, that's what president trump is doing -- >> can i ask you? >> sure. >> okay. he occupied part, big parts of ukraine, parts of east and crimea, so he up occupied it on 2014. so during a lot of years -- i'm not peeking about just biden been speaking about just biden, but those time was obama, president obama, then president

trump, then president biden, now president trump and go ahead bless now president trump will stop him. but during 2014 nobody stopped him. we signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it. what kind of diplomacy, y.d., you are peeking about -- j.d.? many what do you mean? >> i'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction the of your country -- >> yeah. >> mr. president, with respect, i think it's disrespectful to try to litigate this in front of the american media. right now you guys are forcing con vicinities to the -- conscripts. you should be thanking the president for -- [inaudible] do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military maniesome. >> [inaudible] >> and do you think it's respectful to come to the to oval office of the united states of america and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? elizabeth: you saw what happened, right in that was ukraine's zelenskyy, he publicly s calculated the conversation into a fight, questioning

whether diplomacy that the president is trying will stop putin. shortly after that, president trump did pull outta strategic piece and prosperity deal where the u.s. would have developed ukraine's minerals, oil and nat if gas. trump posted, quote, he disrespected the u.s. and its cherished oval office. he can come back when he is ready for peace. let's bring in u.s. army special forces veteran jim hanson. jim, it was quite a day. what's your reaction to what happened? >> that was the most stunning political mistake if i've seen in my lifetime. it was the equivalent of a diplomatic walking into the oval office, dousing himself in gasoline and lighting a match. you know, there's a piece of advice people get that says never get high on your own supply. and i think zelenskyy's been reading his own press releases and believing the hype. and he's had too many people in the biden administration and europe telling him he's the greatest thing in the world as he runs around or, you know,

dressed up like an army a man. i think he just really gave ukraine an incredibly damaging -- elizabeth: yeah. so you wonder if he's going to be pushed aside. maybe today put -- ukraine sends its generals in to negotiate because now there's no way zelenskyy can move forward if negotiations, foreign policy pros tell us. he was -- the u.s. ambassador, the ukrainian ambassador to the u.s. was caught on camera, grimacing in shock at what zelenskyy was doing. it is a brutal 3-year war. we have the footage a. look at this. if you take out trump and vance, why did he decide, e eleven sky, decide to -- zelenskyy, pick a public fight in front of the cameras the oval office? is he exhausted or going along with the anti-trump wing in europe and america? it's not joe biden reading off index cards initialing it's president trump. >> yeah. i haven't found anyone who can come up with a legitimate reason for him to do something this gobsmackingly stupid. president trump was throwing him

a lifeline. this mineral deal would have put u.s. companies in ukraine which would essentially be better than troops. they're less threatening to putin, but they serve the same purpose. president trump would never allow putin to invade and put american companies in danger. he's throwing that out the window. i have no explanation if other than he's lost his mind. elizabeth: you know, senator lindsey graham says zelenskyy should either resign or not be with in the negotiations. let's talk about this. polls from quinnipiac, marquette university, pew if research, ipsos hoe the majority of americans -- show the majority of americans demand the u.s. stop funding ukraine. ukraine can't win this war alone. the u.s. will not tart fighting russia, full stop -- start fighting russia. no one wants world war iii. president trump said that. the only answer is mark the boundaries now, stop fighting, do trump's peace and prosperity deal. we know zelenskyy tweeted, quote, thank you, mesh, after

the fight, but -- america, but what do you think? >> i think he absolutely has. this is no question the only person who benefited from this little tirade he threw was vladimir putin who now holds the cards that zelenskyy threw up in the air. it's time for him to to step aside is. he did a magnificent thing, he rallied the world behind ukraine when russia invaded, and he should get credit for that. but what he's doing now is i throwing all of that away in a sad display of a lack of diplomacy and the ability to understand the people you're in the room with. the most powerful man in the world was willing to help him, and you disrespected him this front of an entire live television audience. meth maine yeah. it's still a mystery. either he's exhausted or it's a sense of entitlement or just being rude. thank you, jim hanson, for your great analysis and your service to america. now please listen to this. >> i think it's disrespectful

for you to come into the oval office and try to litigate this in front of the american media. right now you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. you should be thanking the president for -- [inaudible] into this conflict. i've actually watched and seen the stories, and i know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, mr. president. do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military in. >> we have -- >> and do you think it's respectful to come to the oval office of the united states of america and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? if. >> have you said thank you once this entire meeting? no, in this entire meeting have you said thank you? you went to pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in october all for some words of appreciation for the united states of america and the president who's trying to save your country. elizabeth: okay. that was vice president j.d. vance calling out ukraine's president zelenskyy for not thanking america, and he also

hammered zelenskyy for campaigning for biden. let's welcome the terrific author of the book, it's a great book, "the constitution of the united states and other patriotic documents," the one and only fox news legal analyst, a brilliant mind, gregg jarrett. gregg, when you saw what happened today, what was your reaction? if. >> well, zelenskyy was insolent, he was arrogant as if he's some great power. he is not. he and his country survive only because of the beneficence of the united states. chose to $200 billion in u.s. aid and military assistance, and yet here you have the ukrainian leader offering no gratitude, only contempt and conceit in his answers. like a spoiled, entitled child. i mean, trump was rightly incensed. he scolded zelenskyy to his face. so did vice president vance. and good for them, you know? if zelenskyy deserved a dressing down with trump lecturing him

that, you know, you're not in a position to dictate anything. who the hell do you think you are? then he all but told him to get out. so, frankly, i wouldn't have been so so measured. the bottom line is zelenskyy owes trump and all of america a groveling apology. we saved him from russian annihilation, and he seems wholly unappreciative and, you know, americans, we're yen rouse to a point -- generous to a point. but with we resent ingrates, and that was zelenskyy today. elizabeth: gregg, let's please get your reaction to senator lindsey graham. the senator sits on senate if foreign relations. the senator is a staunch supporter of ukraine. the senator says he spoke with zelenskyy today, and he said after this blowout the senator said, quote, i don't know if we can -- the can do business with zelenskyy ever again. watch this. >> devastated. everything i and many have been working for to try to get a new relationship with the united

states around our critical minerals deal beneficial to both of us was completely to obliterated today. i met with zelenskyy this morning. i urged him to stay on message, be grateful, be thankful. we'll talk about details of security guarantees later. keep it upbeat, keep it positive. it was absolute, utter disaster. the question for me is, is he redeemable in the eyes of americans. most americans witnessing what they saw today would not want certificate eleven can sky to be their -- certificate eleven can sky to be their business partner, including me, and i've been to ukraine nine times since the war started. this was a missed opportunity, and the question for me for the ukrainian people, i don't know if zelenskyy can ever get you to where you want to go with the united states. either he dramatically changes or you need to get somebody new. elizabeth: do you agree with the senator? >> oh, absolutely. and, by the way, when you lose

your biggest cheerleader, senator graham, you've done something egregiously wrong. and i agree with jim hanson, your previous guest. [laughter] this was the greatest example of self-immolation in the white house that i've ever seen by a foreign leader, hands down. you know, i guarantee you this will happen, zelenskyy will cave with a groveling apology, and you're already seeing it. his posts on x within an hour, i'm sorry, i'm grateful, i'm grateful, thank you, thank you, thank you. there will be a rapprochement and pretty quickly because many ukrainians, liz, who were tired of -- who are tired of war, death and destruction, they were overjoyed at the prospect of peace. now their own president as that scuttled it with his smug hubris, ego and stupidity, and that ain't gonna play well in ukraine with. so expect zelenskyy to come begging back to the negotiating

table with profuse if apologies. elizabeth: we very much appreciate you, gregg jarrett, for spending time with us. great analysis, as always. thank you. happening right now, breaking news, president trump is leaving the white house. he's talking to the media. we'll bring you the sound. will ukraine's zelenskyy lose a chance to apologize in person? he's still in d.c. the is heading to mar-a-lago for the weekend. we're monitoring. also for you, watch. >> there are some things that are a true. like the gaslighting, there was a lot of denial of the polling. and i will use the term gaslight, because that's what a they were doing, the campaign, former colleagues. elizabeth: we'll show you more of that sound where jill biden's white house spokesman now says on camera, yes, president biden9 and the biden white house did cover up biden's decline and9 that the biden white house was, quote, gaslighting america, gaslighting american voters.

next, horace cooper is here to react to the full sound. also president trump now reveals what joe biden told him in private about who biden blamed for democrats' historic i defeat in the 2024 election. it's not kamala harris. also what would have been the big headline, big news today, elon musk reveal veals that doge found, wait for it, 20 million dead people, 20 million dead people on social security rolls. and and he says that's leading to people literally stealing from the government. it's not just social security. we have the really scary details. but first, for reaction to odd today's exchange at the white house. the d.c. debate breaking out now, should and will ukraine's zelenskyy apologize? should he step aside? should someone else step in to to negotiate trump's peace and prosperity deal for ukraine? former trump national security adviser, we're so excited to talk to the wonderful kt mcfarland next. please stay with us. ♪ >> you don't have the cards right now. with us, you start having --

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get super fast xfinity internet you don't have to share. forty's going to be my year. >> we stand side by side still today, and we're focused now on bringing an enduring end to the barbaric war in ukraine. mr. president, i welcome your deep and personal commitment to bring peace and if to stop the killing. you created a moment of tremendous opportunity to reach a historic peace deal, a deal that i think would be celebrated in ukraine and around the world. history must be on the side of the peacemaker, not the invader. elizabeth: that was united kingdom prime minister ceer star her praising -- keir starmer praising president trump just yesterday for creating a, quote, tremendous opportunity to reach an historic peace deal. this is just a day before

ukrainian president zelenskyy torpedoed it today with a public fight that he started. let's get reaction from our expert panel. joining us now, congressman carlos gimenez, and former deputy national security advisor, kt mcfarland. great to have you both on. thanks for joining us, both. kt, what's your take on this? kt? >> you know, president zelenskyy was losing this war. everybody knew that he was losing this war. and then what happens? president trump bail withs him out with -- bails him out with an extraordinary deal for peace and prosperity to develop their minerals. what does zelenskyy do the? he tries to blackmail president trump in public to give him some kind of a nato-like security guarantee. now that he's thrown that away, my chance of peaceprosperity, he's thrown away the goodwill of the united states, i don't know how this goes, but i've never seen donald trump this mad. and the fact that certificate eleven quiz -- certificate eleven kiss was insulting the

united states, i don't think there's a deal to be had with zelenskyy. elizabeth: yeah, let's talk about what kt just said is, the deal. the this country candidated, congressman, off the a -- truncated, off the wall deal that trump was offering ukraine, trump was doing exactly what a presidents going back to fdr have done in getting concession ises for the united states in return for military and financial aid. watch this. >> in terms of the minerals agreement. and it's still -- there's a lot of skepticism over how much rare earth minerals there are. >> the bottom line is we don't really know what ukraine has. >> whether or not these raw materials, rare earth materials are even there. >> we don't know what is there. elizabeth: okay. here's the thing, congress bank -- congressman, ukraine has 5 a.8 million -- 850 million

metric tons of oil and derivatives. congressman, you know, so why is the media downplaying that development deal that the president wanted? if. >> because it's something that the president wanted, simple as that. they have trump derangement syndrome, and anything that president trump wants to do, it must be wrong. there's got to be something wrong with it, my god, it's donald trump that's trying to make this happen. what the president was trying to do was actually to involve america in the economic structure of ukraine, than guaranteeing a level of security for ukraine without them entering nato. that's' exactly what he was trying to do. zelenskyy's conduct today was unconscionable. the people of ukraine need to reevaluate his leadership because i'm not even sure that he wants peace. i'm starting to say why would he try to torpedo this if in front of the whole world? well, maybe because there's

going to be free elections after there is peace, and maybe he's not going to win. and so that was a really, really bad display. i can't believe that he's that dumb. i have trouble believing people that -- are that dumb, to do what he did. elizabeth: yeah. it's shocking. he disgraced the oval office. kt, let's listen to this an analysis and get your take on what msnbc is debating. >> what do you make of that piece being put in the middle of this conversation for zelenskyy who's indicated, okay, yeah, we may look at these mineral right, giving half the mineral rights to the united states even though it will take, you know, a long time for that to really be realized? >> i just, as an american, i'm embarrassed by it. i just find it atrocious, and i don't think it's in perk's long-term interests. i think -- america's long-term interests. if we keep doing this, eventually we're going to have no friends in the world. elizabeth: i don't know what they're talking about, kt. fdr -- let me back up.

trump is doing what presidents back to finishing dr did. fdr forced concessions from winston cur chill at the height of world war ii -- churchill -- after a hit brother's blitz annihilated london, people were dying. fdr said we're not getting into the war, we don't want to do it. fdr got nearly 15100-year-long -- 100-year-long leases for u.s. military bases in 1940 in exchange for the u.s. giving britain 50 decrepit old destroyers, is so why is the media and democrats going after trump with this peace and prosperity plan? >> well, i think the congressman has it just right. if donald trump's for it, they're against it. they don't care what it is, heir against it. the irony is president trump is offering an integrated economic situation with ukraine that would have lasted a generation. and we weren't even sure, as everyone has pointed out, we're

not even sure what's there. we don't even know if we're going to make money on this deal or not, but president trump was offering him a lifeline, a peace and prosperity with an american commitment to their economy. and zelenskyy threw it away. so i don't think he does want peace. i think he expects that somehow the united states is going to keep giving him money and money, going the keep fighting. but as president trump said, without us you're not going to last two weeks. and i think the ukrainian parliament is already introducing -- they're already introducing impeachment -- elizabeth: wait a minute, let's stay on that. you heard the ukraine parliament is introducing an impeachment proceeding against zelenskyy right now? >> uh-huh. elizabeth: is that what you heard? >> yeah. somebody's just -- i have just read it on twitter that one of the a parliamentarians, one of the members of parliament, is calling an emergency session is, they're thinking -- they're i trying to introduce legislation to call for an impeachment of zelenskyy. but whatever it is, zelenskyy's

in trouble now. he's just thrown away an opportunity of a lifetime. elizabeth: we'll fact check that. thank you, kt, it's good to see you. you're looking at a live shot. the president is departing joint base andrews, he's heading to mar-a-lago. he is not meeting again with zelenskyy. zelenskyy still is in d.c. for an interview with bret baier on fox news. now please listen to to this. >> do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military? if. >> i have -- i will answer -- >> do you think it's respectful to come to the oval office and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? elizabeth: coming up, more reaction to today, what happened with zelenskyy i disrespecting the president, the vice president and the oval office. retired lieutenant colonel bach mcgiven necessary is here with his expert analysis. also tonight, president trump reveals joe biden privately told him who he really blamed for the democrat party's historic election defeat in 2024. we will reveal who he's blaming.

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>> we were always, from day one, cognizant that that a age was an issue. >> [inaudible] >> there are some things that are true. like, the gaslighting, there was a lot of denial of the polling. and i will use the term gaslight, because that's what a they were doing, the campaign, former colleagues. all of a sudden because they're always behind -- [laughter] the polls are meaningless. and they were attacking "the new york times." they did do a lot of gaslightinging of people, and i think -- gaslightinging of people, and i think if you were watching msnbc, you probably

believed them. were probably pretty shocked. the president was scared to death of impromptu, unscripted, unrehearsed, unpracticed, uncorps yo with graphed anythin. they couldn't compete for the attention time. they couldn't do it. [inaudible] by the way, who would have done anything. he loves, he loves -- [inaudible] it was the orbit that did not trust -- [inaudible] when he needed him the most -- [inaudible] foot on the gas can and never took it off, and he was prettily dead in a month. -- politically -- elizabeth: this is being called an historic national scandal that the united states has never endured. that was jill biden's press

secretary admitting, yes, president biden and his white house did cover up joe biden's cognitive decline from day one. they gaslighted america. they misled america. joining us now, project 21 chair, he's horace cooper. horace, so michael la rosa finally admits what people like you and i have been saying from day one. the president was in decline, the biden team was scared to death to admit it, that today gaslighted america, they misled america, they covered it up. we -- this is -- i've been told this is on a level of worse than watergate. and coupled with joe biden's historic scandal of the biden influence-peddling scheme where the family profited making tens of millions off his government job, america is coming out and the president, president trump inherited one of the worst, most damaged governments in u.s. history. what do you say? >> it is fair to say that we didn't get a cannes to

understand -- a chance to understand who was making these extremely destructive decisions. they were unpopular, they were harmful, and and they apparently weren't able to be evaluated by someone who was sharp. it's ironic that this president, who's the sharpest we've seen in a while, is attacked and the media tries to gaslight us and say, well, we don't know who's running the country. it was then that that was a fair question, expect president media never asked it. elizabeth: it is disgraceful people are telling me, it is disturbing that this is the most twisted presidency america's ever seen. that's a direct quote we got from a d.c. veteran a watcher. president trump reveals that a he told -- he that talked to to, rather, he told the spectator's ben domenech in his final meeting with joe biden for the last time after a trump won, president trump asked him who do you blame for your loss. biden was very angry, he said i blame barack obama, i blame

nancy pelosi. i do not blame kamala harris. your final word on that. >> well, absolutely, our president needed not to have run. he needed to have let someone else. and for him not even to be able to see that a these destructive policies impoverishing people, making them lose their homes, the covid lockdowns, all of those things were policies that were implemented under his watc- elizabeth: yeah. >> -- and he doesn't even know much about it, i imagine. elizabeth: well, it led to the total collapse right now, the democrat party can't get its footing and traction getting its credibility back. thank you, horace cooper, appreciate you. now, please watch this, this is revealing. [inaudible conversations] >> we gave you through that stupid. president $350 billion -- >> [inaudible] >> -- military equipment, and your men are brave, but today had to use our military -- if you didn't have our military equipment -- >> you invited me to spoke -- >> if you didn't have our

military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks. >> in three days, i heard it from putin. in three days. >> maybe less. >> [inaudible] >> it's going to be a very hard thing to do business like this. >> say thank you, accept that, accept -- >> [inaudible] to the american people. >> accept that there are disagreements, and let's go litigate these disagreements rather than try to fight it out in the american media. elizabeth: foreign policy -- what zelenskyy did was shocking. he had this disastrous oval office a fight that he picked. he started it with president trump and vice president vance. we're going to bring in retired lieutenant colonel bob ma bob maginnis -- mcginnis. doge found, wait for it, to -- 20 million dead people on social security rolls. he's going to explain why, we're going to show you, that's literally leading to people stealing from the government and other waste, not just social

security. parents of the world unite author ian prior is here to react. but fist, let's check in with lydia hu and james freeman to hear what's coming up on "the bottom line." >> we are all over the top headlines of today, chief among them, that explosive meeting between president trump, vice president vance and ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. where do the talks go from here? we're getting the very latest from from white house deputy press secretary harrison fields. and did do you know there's a big boycott going over today -- on today over dei in we're going to get a read on whether that's effective. >> finally, a dei boycott. we're also going the talk to rebecca rebekah koffler about how the united states and ukraine got to that moment in the oval office today and where we go from here as a well. ♪ ♪

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this -- what it looks like is that most of the fraud is not coming from social security payments directly, but because they're marked as alive many a social security database, they can then get disability, unemployment, sort of fake medical payments and other the things because they're marked as alive in the social security database. so it hook like -- likes like the fraud is a bank shot, essentially. they bank shot into social security, they just do an are you alive check, and then get fraudulent payments from every other part of the government. elizabeth: elon musk telling joe rogan there are 20 million dead people still getting -- till on social security. this as doge is trying to fix the problem that democrats are pushing back on. let's bring in ian pryor. ian, 20 million people -- what he's joining us, thank you for -- what he's -- what he's saying, they could be listed to

get benefits from medicaid, other kinds of programs inside the government. what do you say to this in a lot of theft here. >> yeah. certainly, you're looking at an inefficient federal, bloated bureaucracy that has existed for decades. and if i mean, this is really a 99% issue. you would think that 99% of americans are for rooting out this kind of fraud and this waste of taxpayer dollars especially when we're trying to preserve programs like social security and medicare. to see democrats pushing back so hard against rooting out waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government, i mean, it's just mind-boggling to watch as they a scramble for fig that a they can latch on to the -- as they scramble for anything they can latch on to to. elizabeth: all that money, and democrats in the media don't get it, all of that a waste, fraud and abuse could go toward raises for teachers, for money for school, more money for children, more money for raises for firemen, cops, health workers, first responders. what's your reaction?

>> yeah, it could go to all of that, and it could also a make social security solvent for decades. that's been one of the ways that people have focused on let's protect social security. how about we start with rooting out the waste, fraud and abuse? and right here we have people that are no longer alive as a conduits to really be able to execute fraud on the government which, what does that do? that decreases the social security fund which, you know, is something we're trying to preserve. elizabeth: every politician should listen to ian pryor, and they should applaud what doge is doing, what elon musk is doing, applaud what trump and j.d. vance are doing trying to fix and reform d.c. and stop abusing american taxpayers. ian prior, you're terrific. thanks for joining us. president trump coming in, he just got on air force one. he's returning to mar-a-lago, leaving ukraine's zelenskyy behind in d.c. he spoke to the press moments ago. he said he did squeak with zelenskyy again.

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>> we had a meeting today with president zelenskyy and it didn't work out exactly great from his standpoint.

i think he very much overplayed his hand. we are looking for peace, we are not looking for somebody that is going to sign up a strong power and then not make peace because they feel emboldened and that's what i saw happening. i'm looking for peace were not looking to go into a ten year war and play games. we want peace. it was my impression if we do that and sign up he's looking for something i'm not looking for he's looking to go on and fight, fight, fight. were looking to end death. >> president trump talking to the media moments ago he's leading zelenskyy in d.c. he's headed to mar-a-lago. let's get to army veteran and the author of the book preparing for world war iii lieutenant colonel bob mcginnis. here is the thing russia's putin, thank you for joining us colonel. russia does not want ukraine and nato, they do not want it. trump is offering peace and

prosperity where america goes inside and develops the oil not gas in rare minerals but we have breaking news please react to this the financial times is reporting that ukraine zelenskyy yelled and shouted at treasury secretary scott sc scott bessenn february 12, your reaction to that? >> i'm not surprised, zelenskyy is a stressed-out guy. he showed it today in the white house but yelling at the treasury secretary during negotiations, that negotiation, trump was brilliant and he offered him a deal, no security guarantees but the implication in the message to putin was the u.s. would be on the front lines with zelenskyy. zelenskyy should've known that. unfortunately he did not and he went off the rails. i think in part because what the vice president said you're running out of fighters, that is

true they are depleting their manpower. at the same time he does not have the common sense to take a deal that was in his best interest. >> russia total evaluation the stock market valuation is less than apple. john mccain called a gas station and fortunately he said that. this would turn ukraine into a powerhouse for oil, not gas in rare-earth minerals. final word. >> with high inflation in russia they are in the doldrums, they are in trouble, they need our help this is an easy out for putin. zelenskyy should've taken the deal. >> thank you for being with us. i am liz mcdonald thank you for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. don't forget to dvr us, we appreciate you walking in us in your homes. have a great weekend. now it's time for "the bottom line". take it away lydia and james. >> an evening everyone i am lydia hu and for dagen