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union, mr. president. growthier, and i want liz macdonald in all her glory. liz: thank you so much, thank you, that was a great show. i'm elizabeth macdonald. >> i think he should be more appreciative and this country stuck with him and given more than europe and i'm not knocking them. they were a lot smarter than joe biden because joe biden didn't have a clue. now president zelenskyy made a statement in ap and i'm not a fan of ap, but thinks the war is going to go on for a long time and he better not be right about that. that's all i'm saying. liz president trump and ukraine's zelenskyy and now details on why zelenskyy is botching it. now he does want trump's develop

deal after zelenskyy rejected it three times. even joe biden yelled at zelenskyy for being un-grateful for america and zelenskyy still cannot find $100 billion that american taxpayers gave ukraine. tom emmer is here to takat on and why the trump deal in and of itself is a security guarantee for ukraine that zelenskyy demands and we have this story for you. >> on the simple question, americans are saying okays, donald trump is doing report on this. liz there is not going how deputies planned. americans are turning against zelenskyy and podcast host ben ferguson here to take that on and economists warn americans need elon musk's doge now more

than ever and ray dolio and they're in the u.s. danger zone with debt. plus this story. >> getting gas for a full day. liz: that's b bill maher and they want their own doge and catching a lot of fraud and waste and government and new reports how deputies plan to address president trump's address to congress tomorrow night. it's going to be more muted and played down and we'll cover that live for you. fox business will going to take on what he'll expect and what you can expect and he'll take that on in just moments. first to this.

reporter: yeah, liz, president zelenskyy said he expects the u.s. to continue support to push russia out of ukraine and to that, president trump posted on social and said this "this is the worst statement that could have been made by zelenskyy and america will not put up with it for much longer and a few hours later then the response, we're working with america and european partners on the u.s. support jowski what we need to

hear is he has regret for what happened and ready to sign this mineral's deal and ready to engage in peace talks. i don't think that's too much to ask. i think that's what's best for the american people. for the ukrainian people, for russia and for the world to restore stability. president trump is ready to end this war. reporter: for president trump, it would be the foundation for a joint peace agreement with everything on the table. >> are you looking at relieving russian sanctions if there's a peace deal? >> we'll make deals with everybody to get this war including europe and european nations. they've acted very well. four prime ministers and two presidents called me over the last few days and they want to get it worked out. reporter: over the weekend a come to jesus moment and president zelenskyy said he

would sign that deal and the white hostage thought he'd sign it when scott bessent first deliver it had and i went along in kyiv and they thought zelenskyy would sign with the vice president and thought he'd sign it last friday liz, take it as you will. liz: thank you, edward. great reporting. listen to this, please. >> if, i don't know, if -- i think we have to be very open and very honest and i'm not sure that we did something bad. i think maybe sometimes, some things we have to discuss out of media respect to democracy and free media and there's things we have to understand the position of ukraine and ukrainians. >> military could not -- >> it's kind of $100 billions we have got dur the years. >> $1 183 from the u.s.. >> on the paper and documents, yes. but we have in fact because 67

came like in weapons. liz: that was ukraine zelenskyy telling fox news bret baier he doesn't think he did anything bad start ago fight in the overall office and refused to apologize at least three times and doesn't know why a big $100 billion in u.s. aid money and hasn't track it had. it's still missing. show it, joe biden also yelled at zelenskyy in 2022 for being un-grateful for the billions of aid in toll larras that america gave ukraine and joe biden lost his temper saying show a little more gratitude. what's your take on this? >> donald trump once again showing that he's putting america first and honorring another campaign promise and honorring the war between ukraine and russia and president

zelenskyy is not up to the task yet. >> he was trying to stipulate what he was doing. liz: why would putin stop attacking ukraine with the rebuild minerals deal. would putin be reluctant to not attack ukraine if american companies were in there? >> i think that's more of a security issue for ukraine and zelenskyy should be signing that and american investment means there's an interest in ukraine. coming to putin. president trump is making it very clear i want to get both

guys to the table and done something that no one else was able to do in the last four years, which is get western europe to start getting off the side sidelines. this is all because of master negotiator donald j. trump. liz: trump is saying what biden and others said for years: be more grateful. get reaction to great britain ambassador to the united states saying that zelenskyy must give "unequivocal support to president trump's deal. it could secure peace". watch this. >> my response is we need a very radical reset. and the reset has to consist of the united states and ukraine

getting on the same page and zelenskyy giving his unequivocal backing to the united states that president trump is taking to end the war and bring a just and lasting peace to ukraine. and i think the first thing president zelenskyy can do is make sheer his commitment to the nickertive that president trump is taking and, yes, i do think it would be a good idea if he signed the economic commercial deal put forward by the united states. it will mean that u.s. commercial interests, u.s. individuals, citizens will be on the ground there and that'll be an even greater added incentive for the u.s. to protect the ukraine in future and make sure that war does not ensure again. available and got to be made to work and that's what we in britain are very committed to

help bring about. liz: did democrats interfere with zelenskyy? did democrats turn his head away? did they interfere? >> i don't think it's them directly but he thought he was going to play in the american election by campaigning for kamala harris against -- showing up at campaign event in pennsylvania. is a world leader and everyone saying zelenskyy, you need to be a leader as well and get to the table and get this done. liz: maybe ukraine needs a new leader. house majority whip tom emmer, thank you for being with us. great to see you. now listen to this. >> but the trend line on this question is so important because that one quick end of the war

and look at this, go back to august of 2022, it was at 31%. now we're at 5 o 0%. that is a rocket ship -- 50% and that's a rocket ship upwards for americans that want an end to the war even if it means russia keeps the capture and america moving closer and closer and even if it means ukraine doesn't get what it set out to want at least at the beginning of the war. liz: that was cnn showing more and more americans want a quick end to the war in ukraine. half of americans now want the war to end even if it means compromising with russia. that percentage is up 19 points from two years ago. they said trump is bad and going to start world war iii.

he isn't. now they're saying he's trying to avoid world war iii. >> isn't that amazing and they said donald trump can't be trusted with nuclear codes and he'll start world war iii. no, this is a guy that loves peace. there's so many americans turning against the war and zelenskyy is because number one they now are informed and understand how much money of our tax dollars are going to the war and they understand the politics of it now and donald trump and others have done excellent job as administration explaining why this is not a good situation for the world, it certainly isn't a good situation for the american taxpayer and when you're communicating well on these issues, then the american people respond. liz: ben, a prominent ukrainian lawmaker said it was "absolute id seizure disorders and madness for -- absolute idiocrasy and madness for zelenskyy".

what do you think? >> i couldn't agree more and going down in history as probably the worst meeting we've seen with a foreign leader in the oval office in my lifetime. you don't go in the oval office and insult the american people or the president or vice president of the united states of america. there was a great moment seeing the ambassador for ukraine and she had ore hand in her -- her head in her hands like what is he doing? he clearly thinks he's this famous guy that can go around the world saying i need $100 million from you and $50 billion from you and $25 billion from you and i'm zelenskyy, who are you to say no to me. i do aword shows and on the front of vanity fair. guess what, the president of the united states, donald trump, said we're going to have a real end and talk to us about peace. save your country and it doesn't look like this guy is interested. liz: would a different leader for ukraine work? >> i think no but shocked his

people haven't turned ornament him after all this. larry: thank you, ben. now, listen to this. ♪ ♪ liz: far left protesters singing in protest against doge. everybody wants a clean climate, they are against pollution, this is about doge cutting back a way too big government and massive waste and corruption that is keeping your taxes abnormally high. that corruption going to waste marco rubio fire fighters, teachers, cops, coming up. there's no strategies and democrats don't know what they're doing and they don't like their ideas to fix america. also, this tonight for you.

>> no spend day and it's against the me line influence of -- billionaires and corporations and the parties for the lives of working americans. liz: that's bill maher and had it with democrats "stupid stunts" and top clinton and obama trusted adviser rom emmanuel agrees. rom emmanuel said democrat policies ignited crimes that damaged u.s. cities. and he says democrats stop it from going woke and you're alienating america and david avella is here to break that down. war hawk democrats acting tough with russia? we have sound from barack obama in 2012 and democrats don't want you to see it. stay tuned and hear obama's

stunning comments for yourself. we've got to break did down. also, elon musk out with another shocking doge discovery. he says social security is a gateway to people stealing from government programs in a big way with fake ids and social security numbers. democrats are focussed on his sinkers. social security is nothing more than a ponzi scheme. elon musk is right here. watch this first. >> if you don't do it, there's a crisis i'm seeing is woke up and i won't tell you what it'll come and like a heart attack and can't tell you exactly. you're getting closer. liz: that was wall street titan hedge fund billionaire ray dalio saying the u.s. is in the danger zone and within three years there could be a "economic heart attack" and details why. nancy mace reacting to all that and latest revelation from doge. stick with us and we'll be back

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liz: doge is pressing ahead from a democrat state keeping your taxes abnormally high. ai algorithms continue to uncover appalling and shocking examples of government abuse of taxpayers and overgrown bureaucracy and m madison alworth live on capitol hill with more. great to see you. reporter: ewe too, liz. government employees got another e-mail this weekend and asking them to share what they did this past week at work and it'll become a regular requirement

each week government workers will be required to make sure that they're sharing what they're accomplishing and they're in line with the president and doge's agenda. which is to minimize waste and maximize efficient and more and more getting on board with pete hegseth directing the pentagon work force to comply and initially saying hold off. >> i'm not directing each member of the deputy's civilian work force to provide those five bullets on what they've accomplished in their specific jobs last week. it's a simple task. really as elon said, as the president recognized in our first cabinet meeting, a pulse check. are you there. >> the sheer madness of the

government and they have magic money computers that the checks never bounce from the federal government. like i said, there's no normal corrective mechanism for a company or individual, the checks always clear. the net result is inflation, which is effectively a tax on everyone. reporter: musk says the good and bad news is the government was run so poorly they can enact change quickly and there's one new position that's being added here in dc, a new "affordability czar". treasury secretary scott bessent says the new position will work with the white house to determine areas where they can make a big difference in affordability for working class americans. liz, back to you.

>> they should do more to address the insol vennty issues with the -- insolvency with the program s? >> if you don't do that and there's the crisis i'm saying is will come. i can't tell you when but it's like the heart attack. can't tell you exactly but you're getting closer. my guess would be three years, give or take a year. something like that. liz: okay, this is really scary stuff. that was wall street ray dalio and founder of hedge fund. he said it's like a heart attack and that was bernie sanders dodging the answer to that if americans could have done more. also, wall street pro mary meeker, let's show it. mary meeker warns the u.s. is in trouble. it's in a danger zone and mary

meeker did call it a dot com crash and we have congresswoman nancy mace. always an honor and pleasure to see you again. do democrats need to get on board or are they getting on board? >> oh, they're absolutely not getting on board and they're blaming everything under the sun with trump derangement syndrome on donald trump and elon musk. everything that's gone wrong over the last four years put us in the very precarious position and they're blaming donald trump for or won't answer your question as you should just a few seconds ago with bernie sanders and it's really, you laugh and it's a joke and the people are elected and lying to the american people for four years liz: it's a democrat-run bureaucratic state in dc. liz: what do you make of the president addressing the joint session of congress tomorrow

night but make of the politico report that the democrats are not going to holler or boo but it'll be a muted response? >> no, i don't believe that . i teared up during the speech and we'll all laugh, we'll all cry, and we will all question what's been going on the last four years and how did we get in this position and i think it'll be a great speech for the american people, pro america speech putting our citizens and nation first finally we have a leader and had to go through four awful years to understand what's at stake here and how donald trump's going to lead us out of this mess. liz: congresswoman nancy mace, we appreciate you being on. come back and see us again.

catch president trump's joint address to congress here on fox business tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern time and we expect the president to discuss doge, his success shutting the border, ukraine, his battle to stop inflation and much, much more. you won't want to miss it. now to this. >> social security is the biggest ponzi scheme of all time. >> explain it. liz: he said social security is a ponzi scheme and getting attacked if for that. what democrats are silent about, elon musk is spelling out how social security fake numbers are maybe 20 million of them. that's a gateway to steal from other government programs. coming up, we'll show you what democrats are not discussing. republican congresswoman beth van duyne here and excited to talk to her and anyone wanting peace with russia a kremlin russian asset and we found sound

from obama in 2012 and democrats don't want to talk about it. coming up, wallache you what barack obama said but first this. liz: democrat messaging is fumbling and flailing and late night bill maher had it with the democrat party and david avella breaking it down and rom emmanuel is fed up too. that's next. >> no spend day, you refrain from making any purchases either in stores or online. to shun fast food getting gas for a full day. [ laughter ]

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we have news coming in and house democrats and top democrats like rom emmanuel, david axelrod, james carville say the democrat party is spinning its wheels and has no breakthrough message and it's at its worst ever and all eyes on president trump's joint address to congress tomorrow night. fox news mark meredith is in dc with the latest. mark. reporter: liz, good evening to you. democrats are split over how best to respond to the president and the report is nearly a dozen democratic lawmakers going to skip the address and chris murphy among those not going to show up and others want to use the high profile moment to highlight what's real pro problproblems and politico writing that some on the left argue it's best not to

respond and not going to respond what's even worse. >> the problem is the deputies are playing dead for too many years and i don't think you play dead and stand up for the working class of the country and make the point. generating buzz for 2028 and former vice presidential nominee governor tim waltz of minnesota and interested in running for the white house again and no decisions yet and don't know if his running mate kamala harris making a bid for the wait house and not at academy awards and maybe rumblings she'd be there and posted a photo from the account showing her eating doritos. liz: eating doritos, no leadership. thank you so much. please listen to this. >> i got e-mails about this from

people. no spend day. for a full day! i know. that look on your face says it all. you're right, it's so [bleep] stupid. >> i read the current mayor of chicago has an approval rating of 6.6%. what's going on? >> five years of people dismissed and everything is locked up at cvs and that's a disaster. i'll say this about our schools, i don't want to hear another word about the locker room and hear a word about the bathroom. start focussing on the classroom. i would have done it. >> this is a huge democratic party problem. look at democratic cities and they're terribly run and

incredibly taxes. liz: that was hbo bill maher and mocking the resistance to trump as stupid and nationwide boycott and reality is amazon sales went up and that was top obama and clinton democrat rom emmanuel on democrat policies how they ruined american cities and schools. bring in go pac chair david avella. what's your take on all that? >> one thing is clear, liz, if deck durbin doesn't run for the u.s. senate while rom wants to, that's the campaign speech we'll get when trying to get himself back in the arena. here is his problem and democrats in general's problem. they allow ideas to continue to be dictated by bernie sanders and elizabeth warren on economic messaging, they're going to struggling and will that's what you see time after time. this is still a party led by the ideas that sanders and warren

champion the most and they're the most disconnected from reality. liz: it's not even the normal democrat party anymore and call @ extreme far left party that's alienated all of america. the hill newspaper in washington said american voters are not agreeing with the democrat narrative against president trump and he's a threat to democracy and people feel they've been a threat to democracy. jared goldin said the democrat party is going to be weak. >> look at which state is going for the most and going for influx eight out of ten are led by i would offer most resembling for them with the goal of the federal level going to bring that's the most interesting and most growth going with the

conservative enough to be going through the middle and it's going with democrats to elect him. liz: zero, zero leadership going with this. thank you, david avella. listen to this. >> did mitt romney have a point that russia is america's biggest geopolitical foe? liz: coming up, sound from barack obama down playing russia and they done want to see it and i'm talking a complete the catch it and we have it. find out what else obama said about russia and deputy special envoy morgan orlikowski tay gas join -- morgan ortegus joining

us to react. >> were the dead people getting money? >> some were. >> what percentage? >> it isn't clear. liz: that's shocking stuff. elon musk warns doge found 20 million dead people on social security's rolls and the issue, those social security numbers are used as a gateway to steal from other government programs. and let's check in on the next hour. >> we have a unique per spect and i have giving uses that and senator markwayne mullin with the latest on what happens tomorrow night oturu big, big joint address to congress.

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jot obligation for social security is your entire career and look at future obligations of social security and actual national debt is like double. going for them to try. going for people that are tired and get. going for them with the time and it's on the line and look at future obligations of social security, there's 20 ml dead people marked as alive and that's not coming from social

security payments directly but they're marked as alive in the social security data base and get unemployment sort of fake medical payments and other things and they're marked as alive in the social security data base. liz: that was elon musk talking to joe rogan on the joe rogan podcast and it's a ponzi scheme they said and talk to our next guest, look who's here, congresswoman beth van duyne. what do you make of this being a ponzi scheme. he's saying it's a pay as you go funded by the taxes and there's no cash sitting there. just u.s. treasury notes. >> hey, liz. great to be on. hope you're doing well. no, absolutely. think about what elon is saying is that the way that it has been run has not been adequate to actually continue for sustainability and hard working americans that are putting money in day in and day out into a

scam that's basically may or may not be there. people at the retirement paying their entire working career aren't going to have the resources and not having resources available which they need it. so judging people using that with the slush fund would be better and that's what he was saying and i support his idea of rooting out waste, fraud and abuse in social security system. liz: he said doge found "20 million dead people" on social security that can steal from medicare, jobless benefits and food stamps from the va. show the list. what do you think of that,

congresswoman. >> they're buying voters and we have over 36 trillion in debt. we're giving away money at some point in time and it's completely unsustain and will already is. if we want to be able to m maintain social security and put money into it, we'll have to have waste, fraud and abuse. donald trump saying it ps to strengthen the system and the way to run the federal government is appalling. liz: congresswoman beth van duyne, thank you for being with us. great to see you. now listen to this. >> with respect to mr. romney's assertion that russia is our number one geopolitical foe, the truth of the matter is that. liz: yeah, that was barack obama talking about how russia is not the geopolitical foe for the

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assertion art number 1 geopolitical foe. he's got a whole lot of challenges. russia, is a regional power that acts of its immediate neighbors not out of strength but out of weakness. ukraine had a enormous influence for decades. since the breakup of the soviet union. the fact that the violations of international law indicates less influence, not more. my response and then will continue what i beat today. which is russia's actions are a

problem cooks that was remarkably tedious and barack obama adamantly sang a rush is not the number 1 national security threat to america. he mocked romney for warning that. democrats did not say it was the end of the world when obama said that. they are not talking about it now but let's welcome to the show u.s. deputy special envoy to the middle east, morgan ortega said. it's great to have you out again. they are not talking about obama here, why? russia took crimea under obama's watch. >> absolutely. he invaded and the obama presidency and in the bite in a presidency. of course boots and did not do that in the trump presidency. what is the big difference? president trump talked about this in his meeting with zelenskyy last friday. he talked about president obama gave blankets, blanket words of support. but it was president trump at his first term he gave antitank

javelin missiles to the ukrainians, armed them with lethal aid and then the russians did not invade in his presidency. fast forward, we have the war. remember there are several big missteps of president biden made leading to that war he said maybe russia could do a small incursion kind of giving them the green light he took all the sanctions off the pipeline. and, he took many actions i said let the russians to believe this guy is weak and we are going to be able to invade. one of the biggest ones of course was that fateful withdrawal from afghanistan which the taliban took over and left america running out the door leaving people and equipment behind. that weakness sent a signal to every dictator that they would be able to get away with any plans for they wanted to do whether this russia and ukraine or hamas going after israel on october seventh, 2023 as we remember. he will see a very big a

difference this president these with strength. he is trying to get the best of the american people at the crucial difference. we do not lead with what's best for the year. europeans the acquaintance of what is in america's interest what's best for us? that's a fundamental miscalculation by president zelenskyy on friday. he failed to see president trump was offering in the best deal of all. a minerals deal that would economically tie our two countries together and give america their own financial interest in the fight. dagen: a lot of rhetoric, and not not a lot of action from democrats. thank you so much morgan ortagus we are going to stay on this story it's an important one. thank you for your insights but we appreciate you so much. thank you for watching "the evening edit" on foxbusiness. we welcome you to dvr us and thank you for welcoming us into your homes. now it is time for the bottom line, take it away you guys. good to see you. >> thanks liz, good to see you. ♪