stuart: i like this. that's an upbeat piece of music to start the day. michael bluegray had a beautiful voice. stuart: good morning. i'm sorry. good morning, everyone. it is 10:00 eastern, wednesday, march 12th. i want to start by reiterating some of the points from our interview with secretary lutnick. he will meet with ontario's premier and says the goal of the meeting is to lower the temperature of negotiations. he did say the price of steel in america will go up and he's going to add copper to the tariffs. he said nothing is going to stop tariffs on steel and aluminum imports until we have a strong domestic industry so check out the steel and aluminum stocks this morning. alcoa is upcoming u.s. steel and nuclear down a

little, not much impact on the aluminum and steel stocks from that interview. let's move to the 10 year treasury yield going up to 4. 30 one%. the price of oil still below $70 a barrel, 67 right now and bitcoin, here we go, $82,600 per coin, that's the markets and now this. say goodbye to environmental justice. one more development in the trump revolution. lee zeldin, the epa administrator will eliminate all the offices of environmental justice throughout the epa, no more special treatment for what the left because marginalized communities who are disproportionately affected by environmental policies. that's been a mainstay of leftist politics for years. president biden insisted that 40% of the benefits from environmental programs must go to marginalized communities. that was the way environmental justice makes way deep into the

heart of policy. the ellen because it forced discrimination and it's going to stop. no more closing or relocating highways because they divided communities, no more tree equity, no more victim knowledge he. the democrat party is essentially a coalition of victims and that's how they presented themselves. environment of justice was part of the strategy to hold the coalition together and lock in votes. ending it is a reversal of a big part of the biden agenda. the left is in shock at the pace of the revolution. the same they environmental justice came to a end the education department, let go half its workforce, the whole department is on the chopping block, the president's strategy was to overwhelm his opponents with a whirlwind of change. this really is a revolution in the way our government works, happening very quickly and it is not over. second hour of varney just getting started.

it is wednesday morning and liz is with us. it's a revolution. that's my opinion. any idea what is on the chopping block next? liz: everyone is anxious about that. you nailed it because there has been as elon musk said the biggest scam is the ngos that have been receiving money circularly through the federal government, ngos the turn out to be staffed by a lot of democrat people either in office are waiting for the next campaign or whatever. i think we are going to be stunned to find out how much money was basically supporting democrat groups that were then sending that money into campaigns. i think it is endless. i think this is just one more step in that. the epa is riddled with this, i have written about john podesta

having $375 billion slush fund, a lot of that went through the epa and who knows how it went, it would be a terrific thing if elon musk actually took hold of where that money went because they need to know. stuart: guarantee that's what he is going to do. he has the computer codes, he can follow the money. liz: thank heavens for ar, tech-support. stuart: you've got an op-ed and you are saying the democrats are screaming over trump's plan to cut wasteful spending for one reason, what is the reason? liz: they are benefiting from it but this article mainly talks about medicaid because they are fear mongering about the cuts to programs no one will be hurt by but in particular hakeem jeffries saying republicans are going to cut medicaid and the reality is medicaid and medicare every year have $50 billion in improper payments. if you combined that, if you get rid of just the $50

billion, now 100 billion including medicare and look at we 10 years, that's $1 trillion in savings, these are enormous numbers. it harkens back to the government accountability office a year ago saying up to half $1 trillion every year is wasted and fraudulently taken out of the federal government and they said every agency should be looking at this, this is joe biden's government saying this, nobody did a thing. nobody even responded, up to half $1 trillion. it is staggering to me. i think it is great that democrats are on the run, doge is something everyone, 70% of the country plus is in favor of, the only people who aren't are the pigs or squealing. stuart: an hour and 1/2 ago, consumer prices went up 2.8% -

6.8% the month before. edward lawrence at the white house, what does this mean for interest rate decisions? >> reporter: you saw it ticking down 2.8%, not enough for the federal reserve to say mission accomplished on their 2% goal. they are in pause mode to see how this plays out. it is interesting. as we see the inflation fall, the treasury secretary scott person is focused on their treasure -- 10 year treasury yield, he wants to bring that down, that's a benchmark to borrow money for cars or home and you see 4.3% which puts both 30 year fixed mortgage at 6. 7%, lowest level in 5 months, this could translate into more homebuying which translates into more spending which could boost the sagging stock market this week. >> when you look at the market selling off that didn't concern you? >> some people are going to

make great deals by buying stocks and bonds and all the things they are buying, i think we are going to have a real economy, not a fake economy. >> reporter: the president making the point that he is shifting from an economy that relied on government tax money to an economy that stands on the private sector. >> i'm here to kovar remarks of this white house, we are in a period of economic transition, we are in the period of transition from the mess that was created under joe biden and the previous administration. >> the worry is not about inflation but the uncertainty around the policies. >> the risk for the fed is we do continue to see increased uncertainty and have to cut a lot in the back half of the year. i don't think they will respond to higher inflation over a short path. >> reporter: a statement from the white house press secretary, the inflation report, she says it shows the

economy is moving in the right direction as you see them get ready. stuart: glad you explained that one, guys in uniform, we are used to leave blowers, now soldiers. >> this happens when i walk into the white house. stuart: just for you, back to you later. check the markets. except for the dow which is one hundred 30 points, the nasdaq doing well up 265. kenny polcari is with me, do you think the market has bottomed? >> i don't. i think there was a lot of internal damage done to the market, the speed at which it went down, we broke a lot of technical levels the market needs to repair itself and i still think there's a lot of headlines that are conflicting so the markets will turn, we go a little lower, don't think we go much lower. i think somewhere, 55, 55, 50, in their it turns a little longer for the s&p.

for the s&p. i think insurance for a while and then starts to repair and rebuild the foundation to advance. stuart: it won't be a rapid the, you won't selloff and boom. >> don't think it will because i think there is too much damage and too many conflicting headlines continuing to cause angst in the weeks ahead. stuart: i don't like to hear this because stock stay at this level for some time. stuart: not for years. >> it could stay here through the springtime through the end of march and into early april and then i think you will start to see more clarity on policy, then you start to see second, the first quarter earnings in april and the future from their. stuart: as long as it is not a repeat of the 1970s. commerce secretary howard lutnick was on the show earlier today, we asked if the tariffs could bring on a recession, watch his response.

>> inflation comes from government printing too much money, you don't get inflation from having the tariff, that which is made in america does not cost more. this concept of how about we purchase american steel, american aluminum, steel in america. let's strengthen. stuart: i was trying to point out domestic steel and aluminum prices are going up already. >> i don't think that alone will cause a recession. the pool back on government spending on the there's also, the market is very cyclical. we haven't had a full-blown recession, we've had rolling recession the last couple years so even if we start to slow down i don't think it will be a disaster by any stretch. stuart: modest week coming up. >> i don't think it will be this. stuart: what a shame. stay with me for the hour.

let's take a look at the mover is. i want to start with pal and tear, the winner posted on x teasing their ai conferences tomorrow. investors think a big announcement might be on the way, up 5%, 6% on palantir, verizon, a loser today after a downgrade from wolf research, cash flow, the subscriber growth as analysts worry about their ability to maintain their network, nearly 5%, pepsi another loser, jeffries downgraded them to a hold, limited upside from the company after january lows and that's down 2%. still ahead. much more on the new tariffs and our interview with howard lutnick plus one democrat comparing this country to an angry teenager. >> we were sad, we want this, we want that, try to get to this period alive so that their brain can fully form. stuart: what?

we will bring you her full explanation. donald trump says he will talk to vladimir putin together ukraine peace deal done. >> you think you need to have a conversation with him to get the russians to agree? >> it takes two to tango as they say so hopefully he will also agree. stuart: secretary of state marco rubio says the us will have contact with russia today. the full story next. king... (speaking to self) about our honeymoon. what about africa? safari? hot air balloon ride? swim with elephants? wait, can we afford a safari? great question. like everything, it takes a little planning. or, put the money towards a down-payment... ...on a ranch ...in montana ...with horses let's take a look at those scenarios. j.p. morgan wealth management has advisors in chase branches and tools, like wealth plan to keep you on track. when you're planning for it all... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management.

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stuart: on the markets this morning, the dow is down one hundred 78 points, going the other way for the nasdaq close to 200, that's a full 1.1% gain on the nasdaq.

canada's finance minister says canada will impose 25% retaliatory tariffs on us goods, worth $29 billion imposing that from march 13th. canada's tariffs will include steel products, aluminum products and additional us goods. the list of additional product affected by canada includes computers, sports equipment and cast-iron products. canada will raise the issue of tariffs with european allies to coordinate a response and put pressure on us. what do you think? reciprocal tariffs coming at us from canada impose on us. >> the headlines continue to be conflicting which is why the market will struggle but i'm not surprised. wise anybody surprise? we've been talking about this was going to potentially happen and they go back-and-forth, we hope it brings everybody to the table and they stayed up and at

this moment, knowing where we are going to end up, i think this action will continue. stuart: the markets do not like the reciprocal tariffs. >> which is why they will continue to thrash around and trade lower. stuart: a settlement for some time to come, probably, this hangs over the market for some time. >> what i say ten minutes ago? it will last for a while. stuart: i like to repeat your main points and make sure we've got it. let's get to the cease-fire talks. donald trump says getting a deal done in ukraine is very important. watch this. >> ukraine has agreed to it and hopefully russia will agree to it. we are going to meet with them later today and tomorrow and hopefully work out a deal but i think the cease-fire is important. if we get russia to do it. if we can't we keep going on and people are going to get killed, lots of people.

>> will you talk to vladimir putin about the cease-fire deal? do you need to have a conversation with him to get the russians to agree? >> it takes two to tango as they say, hopefully he will also agree. stuart: takes two to tango, get to get the russians to agree. the gentleman on the right hand of the side of the screen is senator mike arounds, republican senator. getting the russians to agree will be a heavy lift, isn't it? >> i think it will be. i like the idea of a cease-fire. we want to see the bloodshed ending. the question is how to put together an enforceable cease-fire or one that requires russia participate and we can also be assured there will beast ability for ukraine and that means an enforceable cease-fire and enforceable long-term, the question is whether or not russia would abide by it. stuart: does russia really need

a cease-fire? are they in trouble to mystically? their economy and their troops? >> this has been tougher on russia than they like to admit, the loss of life alone is significant. we also know vladimir putin wants to take back what was part of the soviet union to begin with, whether he can claim a victory back home or not is debatable yet. we do want to make sure ukraine has stability in the future and that means assurances from us and our european neighbors that whatever we agree to they will enforce. the bigger fear is what do our european neighbors think of the way this has been done, will they support us and will there be part of it? the president has the right idea when he says he wants a cease-fire now, bringing everyone to the table is something i think is a step in the right direction. secretary of state rubio for getting the first part of this

complete, how do we create an enforceable cease-fire in vladimir putin and russia, that is something that is going to be very challenging. stuart: the commerce secretary, howard lutnick, saying tariffs are vital for national security. watch this. >> steel and aluminum is fundamental for national security. we can't be in a war and rely on steel and aluminum. the president wants steel and aluminum in america, nothing stops that before we get a big strong domestic steel and aluminum capability. national security rises above all other things. stuart: the tariffs on steel

and aluminum stay on, a domestic industry. that will take a long time. >> that will take a long time. canada, ally and friend, steel and aluminum, we would love more of that being done in our country and we understand the president believes we can achieve that. good will create summonsed ability and that is what we are seeing in the markets. how long it takes to get domestic industries operating again. canada will look at this and say we've been a good stable partner, tough traders and so forth but head back to the negotiating table and that is what this amounts to, the president would love to renegotiate the agreements that are already in place, they are treating us poorly with regard to any tariffs on our products that we have to have picks, that's a step in the right direction if we can get a

better trading deal with our friends and allies, canada is one of our friends and they are good ally but tough trading partner. stuart: thanks for joining us. thanks very much. this is an interesting item. china's commerce ministry had talks with walmart. what is that about? >> it's about walmart asking china to cut the cost of the goods sold to their retailer. essentially to offset the tariffs. bloomberg reported walmart asked to lower by 10% for each round of tariffs. according to chinese media, chinese commerce ministry, unusual to barrel the tariffs. it is essential to the chinese producers to have a strong relationship with walmart and those tariffs are in place. we saw tariff that took effect on march 4th, after an initial 10% tariff imposed on february 4th.

stuart: reaction to that? >> it's very interesting, walmart has the position to put the pressure on chinese producers. they are in that position to do it. it will be interesting, china recognizes that relationship. it is interesting to see how this plays out. madison: there will be some concessions. stuart: coming up, the mayor of new york city chimeric adams, says he stopped reading and listening to the news. that helps them sleep better at night. that's like if i stopped watching the stock market. i don't watch it. laron takes this on later. energy leaders gathering together for the conference in texas and looking for the best way to power ai. the answer might be natural gas. i thought it would be nuclear. we deal with the full report from houston after this.

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the nasdaq is up, tariffs affect dow industrial coverage. now let's be you up to speed. the finance minister, canada will impose retaliatory tariffs on us goods worth $29 billion. it starts tomorrow, march 13th. steel products, aluminum product in the us goods or computers, sports equipment, cast-iron products. canada will talk tariffs with the europeans, they want a coordinated response to put pressure on the united states. kenny polcari, how do you make money? you are starting with medtronic. kenny:this will be a 3%, it's not.

it is a solid solid name in healthcare, it's got a growth story, pacemakers and all the other stuff that they do, it's got a great valuation, below the s&p, the value story and projections going forward are strong. at the name in the healthcare space that i think should be something. stuart: why do you like nvidia? why do you like it? >> i like the name. ai is not going away. nvidia, we are up one hundred 35 and the other they traded 100, 102, or something. it was a huge buying opportunity. those are just names again, in the long term, in ai space, when you have a name like that. stuart: show me palantir. it's significant higher today. >> that was up 132 before it came down. stuart: it was over 100.

>> trading 78 the r day, that's not going anywhere. stuart: buying 82. got it. the annual energy conference is called sarah week. it's in houston, texas was the hot topic is powering ai data centers. natural gas. is that the solution for ai powered demand? >> certainly one of the options but not the only one. this is an all hands on deck approach for ai meaning we will need all the sources we can get. we spoke to the head of williams companies which transports one third of the country's natural gas and the bottom line is this is reliable and the us has a lot of it. >> that is where i think natural gas is in a sweet spot. as long as we continue to burn:fuel oil and natural gas

is cheaper, why would we not do it? we are reducing emissions and saving people. >> reporter: not just natural gas, we are learning amazon, google, and microsoft are working with the world nuclear commission to triple what we have by 2050. another major component is how to power data centers, the us outpaces the next four leading countries and data center capabilities by twice as much. despite the progress being made, one thing we keep hearing at the conference is we need more infrastructure and permitting to make the us, >> and i want to bring in angela zeno. i thought the industry goes

toward nuclear but they are moving toward natural gas. >> they wanted a lot of different ways to power these data centers. and we exit the decade here, we prepare for that moment, and we get other types of resources who play a big role and the power of data centers. because of the immense amount of needs we need to power. stuart: earlier on this program today, howard lutnick reveals what it would take to get these tariffs removed. >> steel and aluminum

capability. we must have steel and aluminum, we must have semiconductors, we need to have cars and automobiles, we need to make these things in america. we need to make pharmaceuticals in america. the president has called them out because he knows these things are vital to be made in america. stuart: the tariffs stay on until we have strong domestic aluminum steal from pharmaceutical producer working in america. i put it to you, that will take a long time. stuart: as far as the tech industry is concerned from a hardware perspective, semiconductor perspective, union access to all that stuff, there's this need to build stuff in the usa into your point it is going to take a lot of time. they will be tariff implications across areas in the foreseeable future especially on the semiconductors side,

semiconductors are global in nature. they are in every single thing we think about in terms of components and the cost of goods sold, as far as bigger check. and we have great pricing power. we are going through these pain points, we continue to tell our investors to stay the course with big tech and tech overall. stuart: they are less affected by tariffs. see you again later. karoline levitt got into a fiery exchange with a reporter from ap. >> reporter: the reporter asked about donald trump's prioritization of tariffs

before taxes saying previously trump had touted tax cuts and now he is pushing tax hikes through tariffs. karoline levitt took issue with the tariffs and the tone. >> have you overpaid a tariff? you get charged on the influx. >> when we have fair and balanced trade which the american people have not seen in decades as we see at the beginning, revenues will stay here, wages will go up, it is insulting, you are testing my knowledge of economics. i now regret giving a question to the associated press. liz: madison: he was being rude to her in the beginning. have you ever done this and it's the latest in the back and forth between the apn the press secretary.

stuart: what do you think? the sequence of trump's policies, a lot of people say tax cuts first. >> i do agree it should have been that. that's the way he positioned it and a lot of people were expecting that to happen first. it causes that headline and the angst in the market, you see the nervousness. stuart: rosie o'donnell has left the country, packed her bags and move the right before trump took office. she can't stand him. we will tell you where she went and what needs to happen before she comes back. dozens of protesters under arrest after fighting with police in the streets of new york and demanding the release of mahmoud khalil. we will tell you how the white house is responding to that next.

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stuart: dozens of protesters under arrest after fighting with police, demanding the release of mahmoud khalil who will be in court this afternoon. madison: he is not currently in new york and the hearing is at 11:30. we might see him. a district judge blocked authorities from deporting him. we thought that would happen, he was being investigated as a potential national security threat but mahmoud khalil's lawyers argue with an overreach to provoke his green card. press secretary karoline leavitt disagrees pointing out that marco rubio has the authority to revoke a green card or visa if the person goes against national security interests of the us.

and arguing to have him brought back to new york because he was transported to louisiana where he is as far as we know. it depends if he has been brought back to new york. protesters clashed, calling for the release of mahmoud khalil, there was a protest at 11:00. stuart: 14 democrats have signed a letter calling for mahmoud khalil to be released. those are the 14 on your screen. columbia business school professor rand kevetz, what message do you have for those 14 democrats who want mahmoud khalil released? >> these are not all democrats, these are 14, some of these are

not with us like rashida tlaib and others, just not with us. not sure anything i would say would influence them. what is very important not just for democrats but both parties that what we have on our campuses, not just the ivy league, universities in the northeast, the midwest, california, we are seeing decades of indoctrination against israel and the allies of america, not just anti-semitism but indoctrination in the classrooms. professors brainwashing the minds of future leaders of america against the west, the same freedoms that allow us -- stuart: is the faculty at columbia split? i'm asking the question because the radicals seem to be in the humanities, not science and health. is there that split?

>> this detail of two universities, and the natural sciences and so on. they do tremendous work, research is advancing the united states and the world and systemic anti-western indoctrination, we don't see senate stomach anti-semitism. you have professors indoctrinating these students in areas that were of a cradle of civilization, philosophy, history, they become the graveyard of western civilization. stuart: remind you of 1930s germany? >> it sounds extreme. my grandparents lost their family due to the nazis.

and the mindless following of hamas and hezbollah. what we have seen is professors in some areas, middle east studies that said to students, tens of hundreds that hezbollah which has killed hundreds of americans, it's not a terrorist organization but the houthis, we've seen riots, to fire on american surface members. minding of the 1930s. as the professor always does, both parties, is not, decent,

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stuart: california, a new bill getting criticized for being pro-criminal. chad bianca, for justifiable homicide. why do you think this will make self defense illegal? >> exactly what it says, it is going good to embolden criminals, if you're attacked by someone. your first response is to fight

back. they end up injured and possibly die. you are charged with murder, it's removing justifiable homicide, it defies common sense in light of 70% of state last year saying a different direction in public safety. stuart: why is this being proposed, why are they trying to do this? >> i can't guess, can't even say. it makes no sense. it furthers their love affair with criminals that they want to embolden criminals, they are attempting to cause chaos. this is basically if you are confronted you have to run away, give them what they want, give up whatever they want and run away and if you don't you're going to be held liable. stuart: somebody runs up to me,

hits me in the face, i don't like it, he runs away, i chase him down. i clobber him. i injure him. i'm responsible? i'm liable for this? is that how it works? >> if you don't run away, if your first instinct, your first action is not to run away from this confrontation, if you allow the confrontation to happen and punch him in the face, he falls over backwards, hits his head and dies, because of his actions you are held responsible. stuart: what happens if he chases you down? the stuart: that is what is going to happen. they claim in a last reason or if it is an absolute last resort and no more sk for you, then you can fight back. stuart: i am still shaking my head at this. i know you are a gubernatorial candidate, maybe you can straighten these things out for us. thanks for explaining what is going on in your state. we will be back.

thanks for being on the show. he is a headline for you. rosie o'donnell is leaving america. where she going? . >> she did it on january 15th, looking at a second time, her main objective was to get away from the president, she joins ellen degenerate who has officially left her american life and american real estate portfolio behind, her final us property, at a california home for $5 million. she now lives in the uk with her wife. back 20 donald she said she's willing to come back to the us once it is, quote, safe and all citizens have equal rights. stuart: now we know. i want to thank you for being with us. to modulus our.

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