>> good morning everybody, it's sunday, july 24th. i'm juliet huddy in for alisyn camerota. he confessed saying sure, he murdered a hundred people and doesn't mean he did anything wrong. disturbing details behind the man and the twin tower attacks in norway. >> dave: the heat is on inside the house. john boehner revealing his plan today before the market open. will his toughest critic, the president, buy in. >> clayton: imagine you had to make a choice, give back half of your pension now or you could lose the whole thing. the man who is breaking that news to the people here live with us, "fox & friends" starts right now.

♪ >> hey everybody. >> hi everybody. >> should we point out the fact he's not wearing a belt now. >> clayton: no. >> forgot. >> we'll do that later. the latest on the debt ceiling debate. we are in dangerous territory regarding the debt ceiling. more in just a few minutes. >> also new details what happened in norway, we're starting to get creepy details this morning about this guy behind this attack and as juliet was saying a few moments ago, saying on a number of online rantings, interesting information, but coming out in the arrest saying, sure, i murdered a number of people, a couple. nearly 100 people, but it needed to happen. >> he said it was atrocious he admits, but said it was necessary. apparently he is cooperating with police. there in norway and looks like he's been working on this for a long time. apparently a manifesto, 1500 pages that detailed why he

feels the way he does about certain things, including islam and so forth. >> dave: details emerging about the plot itself. appears it has similarities to oklahoma city, say it's a similar situation, it was a farming store, after all that alerted authorities that this man had purchased, i think, six tons of fertilizer and that was also us oohed in the oklahoma city. >> this 1500 page manifesto he had been planning, like working on a two volume piece about the islamization of europe. he says look, the united states has it fine. europe is where the trouble is. 20% of our country is suffering from islamization of our country and also talked about the oklahoma city bombing, and timothy mcveigh. four times in the rantings. the manifesto, 2083, a declaration of europe independence. >> he predicted that europe will soon, quote, burn again

and wanted to rid europe of m sla and marxism and a sick individual, release add youtube video hours before killing all of these 92 norwegians and i guess it was something, he was wearing a wet suit with a machine gun. almost a militant style video. >> clayton: if that's not enough. here is one of his online rants. he says if the multi-culturalist elite of europe continue to refuse voluntary transfer political and military power to our conservative revolutionary forces then the second world war likely to go to appear as a picnic compared to the coming forces. >> not knowing who he was in july of 2009 he wrote about the muslim, this is again, to somebody he's talking to on facebook. he wrote about the muslim ghettocation process, they

live in their own enclaves with little to no interaction with norwegian society. >> dave: joining us on the phone this morning. david john smith, living and raising his daughters in norway. good morning to you, sir, thank you for joining us. >> good morning, happy to be here under these circumstances of course, quite difficult. let me put this in context of the small country. first of all, it's a country of less than 5 million people that historically has been fairly isolated. so close bonds built up over the people over time and a level of trust and honesty here and then put that against the activities of the last couple of days, the nation is in deep disbelief and in deep shock, obviously. and the timing, the timing of the attack on friday at the governmental quarters, it coincides with the vacation period in norway and also the time at 3:20 p.m.

i believe that this fellow knew that the people were not going to be at work. so, i think it was destruction of property and also the single effective attack on the government and of course hopped in the car and dressed as a policeman, again, wanting the trust of the people who again, these people are open and honest and gained the trust, yeah. >> you hit on something interesting there about the trust and seems to be a level of trust in norway and naivete, if you will, it's peaceful, very, very little gun violence. you're in a unique position, you're an american there. what's your perspective? you noted the differences here in the united states. what's the difference in norway, is there this naive nature there about violence? >> that's a good question. i run a company called norway communicates and the international environment and norway for many thousands of years before it was a country it was isolated and just in the last 50 years that the oil and gas ventures as they call

it here, the really globalization of the country has begun, but hanging behind is this certain level of naive and wanting to trust people. i think that's what it boils down to. these people are very good at heart and obviously, with the governme governmental, a policy of giving quite a bit of money to, you know, foreign countries in need and this sort of thing and the immigrant policy that is quite liberal, the country wants to believe in the good side of people. and that, again, is the great shock that has just happened in the last 48 hours. i think the reaction at first was, people believed that it was a terrorist organization from abroad. and then it came of course, the information that it was one of their own, a highly educated young man who looks, talks, feels norwegian and this is where the disconnect happens here in the country because people can understand to a degree an attack on the

government because that's something that happens rarely, but it does happen, but then going out and in cold blood tracking down, young, up coming, sharp labor party kids over a two hour period, the mind can't encompass that, it can't. >> our deepest sympathy in the united states as we continue to follow this story, thank you for joining us, david john smith, an american living and raising his kids in norway. >> dave: you wonder, guys, that trust that we talked about is gone now. certainly the country changes in terms of security. do they trust one another as they did 48 hours ago. >> one of the phrases used over and over again, so many in norway talk about the sort of loss of innocence now this country is feeling. >> let's turn our attention out to the debt ceiling back here at home. a major news out of washington, again, we thought at the 11 a.m. meeting yesterday, that we would actually see some progress, still no deal. not at all. but some news this morning,

some real big news, actually, because speaker boehner, it seems, may have a plan that will come to fruition, before 4 p.m. this afternoon so that the asian markets aren't rattled and it will involve sort of a two pronged approach. >> yeah, but the most important part of the two step process clayton mentioned there's going to be a short-term extension involved and the democrats have objected to that, as you know, from the very beginning, the president, nancy pelosi, harry reid all three last night reiterating they will not support a short-term extension. so it appears we are playing with some serious fire on this sunday. >> what does john boehner do, comes up and hands over the paper work, they immediately say no. listen to this, thises what mitch mcconnell has to say about this. there is bipartisan agreement on the need to prevent fault and given the unprecedented size of the debt ceiling increase, the president is requesting, this is not an easy process. and the effort to prevent default while substantially reducing washington spending

will continue. >> of course, all of the concern is about the asian markets and usually you can see this happen on a sunday. if you were concerned about american markets, concerned about what's going to happen here, you look to the asian markets as a bellwether and this is sort of like the deadline todayment 6 p.m. eastern time. the u.s. futures begin trading at 6 p.m. eastern time and the japanese markets open at 8 p.m. eastern time and then hong kong markets open at 10 p.m. so speaker boehner wants to get this in place ahead of the openings today. but again, there's disagreement. now it's disagreement with the timetable of all of this, right? president obama wants one extension through 2012 for the debt ceiling being raise. now speaker boehner comes forward with this, an extension through 2011, another vote in 2012, two votes. >> that's what the democrats are concerned about and definitively according to the president saying no to. and speaker boehner with ent if there yesterday and said, look, mr. president i'm going to be dealing now with the senate and house on this.

you know, we're not playing ball anymore, the ball is out of the white house's court. >> the court analogy, no, the ball is in your court, the ball is in your court. no, i've got the ball. >> dave: two questions, one, can they get a deal. even if they get a deal, is it enough to get the credit standing where it is? there have been threats, even if we get a short-term extension, we could get a downgrade, disaster for your money and-- >> and standard and poor's that's not good enough for us for default nlt and the bigger question, whether speaker boehner can get the votes for this. the new freshman republicans, he needs democratic votes. >> nine days away, folks, it's happening fast and time is running out. let's get to some other headlines today. beginning with the bloody end to a birthday celebration in texas, such a horrible story. six people are dead, mostly teens and young adults after a gunman opened fire inside a

roller rink. it happened in grand prairie, texas, suburb 15 miles west of dallas. police believe that the killer was related to many of the victims and argument with his wife. lost control, pulled out a pistol and nearby businesses reported children screaming and some running of out of the business and some swearing skates. it appears he turned the weapon on himself and police have not released any names involved in in case. two missing men in the wisconsin chippewa river. they were involved in a boat crash friday night and a ski boat apparently crashed into their pontoon-like boat. they were thrown into the water and driver of the speed boat was killed as was the passenger on the other boat and three people survived the wreck. investigators don't no what caused the death of singer amy

winehou winehouse, the autopsy results won't be known for a few days, she was found dead in her on do done-- london apartment yesterday. ♪ >> you know, try and make me go to rehab, i said, no, no, no, and won the grammy by the way record of the year among many others and music was coupled with severe addiction to alcohol and to drugs. winehouse joins a long list of 27-year-old musicians who have died tragically just talking about that, jim morrison, janice joplin, kurt cobain, jimmy henfrix all 27 years old. he was a polish immigrant and helped guide the war and bosnia and tributes have been

pouring in, president obama called the general a statesman. he was 75 years old. the heatwave not over yet, juliet. are you ready for the heatwave. >> it's like 100 already. >> clayton: it's almost going to be over, almost over. >> going to be 90's now, cooling down a little bit. after triple digits, how does 90 sound? and maria molina has the weather including some severe storms. >> the system that brings relief to the hot areas, northeast and parts of the great lakes is bringing in severe storms and we have incredible footage to show you out of chicago, we currently are in actually a flash flood warning because the storms drove through in the overnight hours and some areas up to four inches of rain and some flights canceled out of the region and localized flooding

occurring throughout flooding some roads out there and we're expecting more storms already early this morning and additional one to two inches of rain can fall in that area and we have the radar image to show you, right now to the northwest of the city those will be moving through shortly. otherwise further off to the east, we already have the showers across portions of the interior northeast and it will continue to remain unsettled throughout the day today. very scattered stuff though, guys, don't expect a lot of heavy rain and expecting some of that monsoon moisture. here is a look at today's high. 91 the high in new york city and better from what we've seen the last couple of days and still another hot day. it won't be until monday that we'll see the release and by the way, dallas, texas, 104, and dave, at that would be the 23rd consecutive day of 100 degree weather. >> dave: brutal. absolutely brutal. thank you, maria. texas governor rick perry is

generating buzz for potential run for 2012 and even called himself the commander-in-chief. >> and as the governor of the state of texas-- >> oops. joining us now is founder and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph, good morning to you, sir, good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> dave: we've heard it used, a game changer, if rick perry were to get in. does it change the entire field? >> i think it's too early to tell, but rick perry is not to be underestimated. he'll be an impact player and he'll be a significant addition to this race and i think very uniquely, dave, he really is both a sort of cause oriented, conservative activist candidate who is going to be able to appeal to both social conservatives and tea party activists. and if you go back and you look at the exit polls from 2008, 41% of all the voters

who cast ballots in republican presidential primaries nationwide were self-identified evangelical christians, clearly a part of the party. in addition, he's been a successful governor of the second largest state in earthquake m, -- america, so he has the profile of the candidates who is going to be able to raise money and get endorsements. i don't know if he's going to get into it or not, but sure looks like. >> dave: depending which number, with the recovery, the polls look better for rick p perry. without throwing his name is, he's showing up second including this poll, three points behind romney. is there had a void for the christian evangelicals, when mike huckabee our colleague,

decided know the to run. >> i think there was. you've got a lot of people making a full-throated appeal for that vote for the obvious reasons that of' already alluded to, which is the huge number of votes that they represent. in iowa, by the way, in the caucuses, it will be 55 to 60% of the vote. i think that explains why michele bachmann catapulted so quickly. i think tim pawlenty is a guy to keep your eye on. i wouldn't count him in in an rv tour across iowa right now and as a professing evangelical and successful governor. he's going to make appeal, herman cain, rick santorum. that's the thing that perry has to be careful of. number one, the process has not been friendly to late entrants. he would certainly break that mold if he's able to do that and i think he may be able to. secondly, if that vote gets split four, five, six, seven ways, a lot of times as we saw with mccain in '08, it makes

it easier for the front runner for lack of a better term, to maintain their primacy. >> dave: let me ask you about the front runner, mitt romney, obviously, a mormon and also john huntsman who is a mormon. is there in i discomfort, as far as those, evangelicals, any discomfort on their side of things in terms of supporting a mormon? >> i think you obviously don't have the same level of affinity that you would with a mike huckabee. i think that goes without saying. i think that huckabee was a guy who could speak with an enormous comfort level, not only about his own faith and his own spiritual journey, but he could also talk in a way that was both compelling and also inclusive about the moral agenda of the party and the cultural agenda. and that's important to these voters. mitt romney, i think, went through this fire four years ago and i think he addressed it. he think he talked about his faith. he got, you know, pinned a

little bit for having changed his position on abortion and so forth. i think that's largely behind him. and he's making a real effort to appeal to these voters as well. four years ago he got 20% of these voters and i think he'll do at least that way, maybe better this time. >> well, if the economy plays into his hands there. that's my next question, with unemployment 9.2% and more than 15 million people out of work. how important should social issues be for republican voters? >> he think i think they're going to be important to the voters who matter. and this election clearly is going to be about jobs and the economy and more specifically, it's going to be a referendum on the failed stewardship of this presidency and the disastrous record of this administration on turning this economy around. so, whoever the republicans know many--

nominate. whether it's somebody in their wheel house, romney, had a background in finance and business, as does huntsman, or one of the other candidates, you mentioned perry being able to talk about job creation in texas, every one of these candidates has to remember, this is not just about appealing to the base, it's about going out there and talking to those voters who are hurting right now, because they've lost a job, a family member's lost a job or they've lost their home or are in danger of doing so. >> dave: a huge task whoever it isme it isment ralph reed. thank you for being with us. >> you've got it. >> dave: what's coming up. >> clayton: police and firefighters in one city told they have to give back half of their pension, a guy breaking it to the staff is here live. >> he tried to stiff her out of money after lying for 14 years, and now a change of

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♪ >> welcome back to "fox & friends" on this sunday morning, thanks so much for waking up with us, i'm clayton morris, dave briggs, juliet huddy in for alisyn. >> dave: juliet huddy, wears a bright yellow dress and for a highlighting a dark green marker. >> juliet: you can see exactly what i've highlighted. checking on strange things. >> clayton: the fbi when they black it out. you can't read it. >> juliet: you can't read what it says? you're just picking on me today. some headlines and serious news actually. 11 people are wounded when shots are fired outside a car

show at seattle, washington. everyone hurt expected to survive luckily. no one has been arrested and no word on how many shooters involved. a witness claims he saw at least one gunman shoot into the crowded shopping center. a fist fight broke out before the shooting again. and mary jo lake hadley. two parents allegedly killed by their 17-year-old son. cameras were not allowed inside the church in port st. lucie, they were brought in together in twin caskets. their son was accused of killing them with a hammer and viting 60 friends for a party. and arnold schwarzenegger will make sure he receives spousal support. last week denying the spousal support. he apparently didn't read them carefully and never intended to deny her her the money.

perhaps he can't break character. rice ivan in trouble for roughing up a female security guard at comic con, happening in san diego. witnesses say ivan shoved the guard because she refused to will et a member of her entourage through security. it happened to be ivan's 44th birthday, maybe he's angry, getting older. we all get mad about that. and he got a ticket and last words, this is a quote. the u.s. sucks, i won't be back. well-- >> wait. >> juliet: stay out of here, please? what kind of name is that anyway. >> dave: hang on a minute, that guy has an entourage? who is that guy? >> the lizard in the upcoming spider-man movie. >> dave: an entourage. >> juliet: a lot of movies that shoot in the united states. there appears to be some progress in the ongoing labor stalemate in the nfl. the players association will meet in washington tomorrow

and could take a vote on the new collective bargaining agreement which was approved by the owners last week. and if a vote goes through, training camp could open wednesday, with the free agent frenzy starting saturday. know he games missed other than the hall of fame season pre-game. big day up at cooperstown. this year's class will be inducted into the hall of fame. leading the way, one of the game's all time greatest second basemen and a two time champ with the blue jays and pitcher burt blylevin gets the nod. a 3.31. and career that expands 16 and clayton, he didn't know. philadelphia also gets inducted. and who would have thought this one. big ben, ben roth list burger, a married man. he tied the knot with ashley

harlan outside of pittsburgh yesterday. >> like his wedding outfit. >> i hope he didn't dress in that for the wedding. teammates did attend the bash. as you recall he had a string of incidents including two sexual assault accusations and he was never charged in either one and i'm going to go on a limb and say that's not a wedding photo we're looking at. if that's the case. >> that's a wedding dress-- >> all right, baby, let's get married. all i've got is this yellow t-shirt. >> dave: well, it's a nice color. >> juliet: thank you. >> clayton: she looks like she's wearing her wedding outfit. and maria moliny, we sent our intrepid reporter out in the heat. >> it feels like 88. we're already starting to feel the warmer temperatures earlier this morning although better than what we had to deal with on friday. 104 breaking a record here in new york city. take a look at the current heat index values across the countries and basically mean when you take a the

temperature and the humidity. numbers of what it feels like outside. already feels like 91 degrees in dallas, texas early this morning and also feels like 91 in kansas city and as we move along we are going to take a look how hot the actual temperatures will be today. it will reach a high at 91 in new york city, raleigh, north carolina expect to see a high at 97 degrees. 104 in dallas, texas, by the way, that will be the 23rd consecutive day of 100 degree temperatures that they're going to take a look at today. that's something we are going to be dealing with out there. the continuing hot temperatures, 97 in kansas city will be the high today. now, as far as any precipitation goes, a front moving through parts of the great lakes and will bring relief to northern areas over the next several days from the hot temperatures, but because of how hot it's going to be, warnings or excessive heat warnings along the midwest and eastern seaboard and this map, believe it or not, looks better than the past several days, most of the eastern half was covered in warnings.

today better, but still many areas looking at the red shaded areas where we can see the triple digit heat values. now, the next map will show you some radar, showers and storms across the region so this is a radar picture, you can see the scattered stuff across the northeast and also outside the city of chicago we're in a flash flood warning because we had heavy storms roll through in the overnight hours and showers and storms also will be firing up and already doing so across portions of the four corners guys? >> thank you, so much. >> juliet: thank you, maria, i bet she goes to romantic calmdy. >> dave: or she drags her men. >> juliet: a cave woman? what are you talking about. >> clayton: men or, usually when dave and i get suckered into going to a romantic comedy and the women typically drag the men along unwillingly to go to these yoo right. >> clayton: and new story out exactly sort of the mindset behind romantic comedies and

how it gets broke undown. >> dave: the wall street journal, wrote about the concept why we men don't like romantic comedies, although i do like romantic comedies, i knew he was going to throw me under the bus. what they're doing now, trying to take the traditional concept of a romantic comedy and giving guys an excuse to watch it. two movies recently out, one is called "no strings attached" and the other one is called "friends with benefits" they're taking a guy-like concept and putting it in a romantic comedy. here is "no strings attached". >> do you want to do it? >> do what? >> use each other for sex at all hours of the day and night? nothing else. >> yeah, i could do that. >> good. >> even though-- >> like that ever happens. >> and the wall street journal says even with natalie portman

being nude a lot of the movie, still 70% of the people who went to see the film were chicks, women. >> dave: because we smelled the romantic comedy coming. you can tell me it's just sex, but-- >> that why bridesmaids made million dollars of dollars because you could sniff out the female-- >> yes, it's starring women and written by a woman. but bridesmaids is ranch y enough for the guys and they made it clear in the pro moss. >> no stings attached you know there are going to be strengths attached and other movie "friends with benefits", there are going to be, am i right. >> juliet: terminator, pirates of the corrinion, hangover, die-hard, all romantic comedy. not, romantic dramas, yes, they are. >> that's garbage. the wall street journal claims. >> juliet: it's true. >> clayton: that these movies

are chick flicks in disguise. >> juliet: they are. >> clayton: transformers 3 a chick flick in disguise, see if you buy it. >> just keep running. >> it's a beautiful-- but i don't think it's just the bunny in this session here, it's just a rabid foot that's lucky. >> no, it's a good luck charm. to help you think positive. >> that's tran formers three, the only scene that doesn't involve robots blowing up. >> juliet: the concept of the-- >> here is what i buy. >> die-hard, the hangover. >> they put in the little nuggets, so the guys get to drive the wives, and women to-- >> thank you, it gives guys political cover. >> juliet: e-mail us and let us know what you think on this topic. >> clayton: i don't buy it. >> dave: here is one, i know clayton morris will weigh in on. when you go on vacation, can

you go on vacation from media, download your vacation, south of france and tweet about things you ate. i'm not saying i know anyone that's done that. >> juliet: you did that. >> dave: clayton morris. and 58% of pressure today are social media online on their vacation. >> clayton: what's more remarkable. people are feeling the pressure to check in on a regular basis. when they go on vacation they feel the need to set up auto responders to let people know they're on vacation. >> juliet: i got off facebook and got off twitter. i couldn't take it anymore, so pressured. >> clayton: it's great, i went on vacation a few weeks ago and we were up where there was no cell service, no internet access and i had the shakes for a few days and then it went away. i thought i'm going to sit and read a book. i couldn't check the news, couldn't check anything and it was liberating. >> juliet: what do you tweet about? i've seen some of your tweet, you tweet about stuff on the show and i found myself

writing about stupid things. >> dave: we do both. >> juliet: and shouldn't be writing about. >> dave: stupidity in both of our tweets. >> juliet: i felt like i was 16 in my tweets. >> clayton: i feel that people pressure to update the family. >> dave: status, updates, why you're not checking in. do you feel that pressure let us know on social media. even if you're on vacation. >> juliet: we don't, enjoy your vacation. >> clayton: especially if you're on vacation, send your vacation photos and get yelled at by your spouse. and facebook, they've actually looked at and we have enough years of facebook to get some interesting statistics how americans are using it. frightening, but also, interesting. take a look at some of the numbers. 50% of all americans are on facebook. but only 37% of americans have a passport. >> apples and oranges, it's a pain in the you know what to try to get a passportments true. >> juliet: and secondly, we don't want ugly pictures, we

don't want the-- i actually stole that from our intern, by the way. >> dave: nice, well done. you credited her. >> juliet: thank you, sam. >> dave: 750 million active users worldwide on face book. 700 billion minutes per month. and vegas is "liked" best. and google plus, 20 million unique visitors in three weeks. i don't know what it is. >> juliet: you're so with-- >> google plus launched two weeks ago ap 20 million users expected to hit sometime this week. it's like facebook only cleaner, and nicer, without the spam. it's just like nicer, i like it. >> not dirty. >> clayton: it's amazing to me we're nearing a billion users of facebook. >> juliet: people are more and more interested in it. that's the thing. >> dave: not you, you're off. >> juliet: facebook the devil and i'm sticking with it. >> dave: and imagine flying on a plane and flames shoot out of the engine. it happened for a bunch of

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>> welcome back. 42 minutes past the hour, quick headlines for you. panic on board a passenger jet moments after taking off an airport in spain. passengers looked out the window only to see one of the engines shooting flames. took the pilot nearly an hour to land the plane and all 180 people on board are safe. in california, surf it up on the slopes. folks in board shorts with one last run or the mountain until it closes for the winter. got a record of 66 feet of snow this year, letting it stay open a lot longer than normal. clayton. >> clayton: in the middle of the heatwave, too. thanks, juliet. with the landing of atlantis, nasa's final shuttle mission with that, america has now closed the door on space exploration. and started with president john f. kennedy. >> to go to the moon and this

and do the other thing, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies because that challenge is one that we're willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone and one we intend to win. >> clayton: of course we did. would jfk approved of president obama's current plans for space exploration? a conservative columnist with irish central joins us live from san francisco. nice to see you this morning, ed. >> nice to see you, too, clayton, good to be here with you. >> it's always difficult to ascribe modern day feelings to historical figures. given the context of the end of the shuttle program what would you think that jfk's reaction would be? >> well, it was ironic that today, the same anniversary of our moon landing is in the same week as when our last

shuttle mission. >> clayton: yeah. >> and i was around when president kennedy directed us to go to the moon and inspired us and he wouldn't be happy right now and i think that maybe at his grave, that eternal flame flickered a little bit when the shuttle landed for the last time. >> clayton: one of his major concerns though was being first to the moon and against the russian and learned recently from the audio tapes released from jfk, you hear him saying behind closed doors, not in public, we've got to be first, that's the main concern. it doesn't seem so much about american exceptionalism, or so it appeared. do we not have anyone to race against anymore and is that part of the problem. >> i think that's part of the problem and president kennedy was a unique leader and he had that charisma and he was able to capture the american spirit and inspire us and have us work together for a common

goal and to reach beyond our limitations, so, i think that his foresight was really that to be to the moon first is what's going to keep us first in technology and keep us strong. because president kennedy was also a war time, war hero and he knew what it was like to be, to not have the right amount of equipment. the right amount of technology against larger forces, so, he knew. and he was a very good man to have lead us at that time. >> clayton: it was an interesting time and it's also an interesting time now, i'm not sure-- i'm a huge fan of the space program and we talk about this, president obama called for getting us to mars, but there seemed to be a lot of belly aching in washington and other quarters about thement an a an of money it would take to get to mars. given the current economic climate, does it make sense? >> you know, everybody is going to say the money, the money, but this is our future. this is the future of our country and actually of mankind, is space.

we should be sacrificing in other areas if we have to to develop our program to go and explore the rest of the universe and getting to the moon was just the first step. and i really feel that we need to, now we laid off 18,000 workers in nasa. >> clayton: right. >> i think we should have laid off, we could have laid off in some in the epa, department of education and et cetera and keep the workers busy propelling our country forward and full steam forward on space exploration. >> clayton: the other side of this of course is private industry. the story this week in the new york times about exceptionalism and wealth generating and private industry finally not getting hands on it. moon express, one company that cheered the end of the shuttle program. they say that american wealth will skyrocket because you're going to have all of these companies vying to take americans to the moon and beyond. what about that side of it, that maybe private enterprise can better handle this than

the federal government? >> well, i think private enterprise is always good, and i think that the key to it though is to have government right there assisting in whatever way possible, working as a partner on this particular aspect of our development. because it is so important to us. so, i think having private enterprise in there, is a wonderful thing. >> clayton: where do we go from here? do we end this now? is the shuttle program grounded? i think a lot of people are scratching their heads and i for one don't know where we go. do we have the federal government go to mars or 20 years, till i turn to my son, this is america, this is what we do? >>. >> that's the thing, it's confusing, we don't know. there's a clear answer and we're lacking some leadership in washington right now. if we had a president that was clear and had a dream for us, we could all work together.

and make space exploration our main focus at this point. so i don't know. >> clayton: yeah, i think it's a bit murky. i agree with you. ed, thank you for joining us, an interesting piece, a conservative columnist from the irish central. >> thank you, clayton. >> clayton: one city telling workers to give up half their pension or lose the entire thing. is this a fair move? the man in charge of that is breaking that news to people and he's here next. . then the f.a.a. stopped collecting taxes on plane tickets a couple of days ago. which should mean savings for you, right? tax-free tickets. but not every airline passing the savings down to you. we'll tell you who is sharing the wealth and who is being a scrooge. ♪

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>> welcome back. a rhode island city on the brink of bankruptcy is calling on police and firefighters to give up at least 10% of their pensions and in some cases half of their pensions will be slashed. not too happy about that of course. >> robert flanders, the state appointed receiver of central

falls, rhode island and joins us from providence. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning. how are you? >> we're good. this is a difficult decision, you had to make. your city is on the verge of bankruptcy. and it was a very tough sacrifice, you were asking these employees to make. tell us about it. >> yes, the cities running a 5 million dollar operating deficit on a 17 million dollar budget. so, unfortunately, we've got to come up with a plan for recovery for the city, that includes some rather drastic measures, such as slashing pensions, and retooling all of our union contracts and agreements and trying to come up with the savings. so, in the case of a retirees, we had a meeting last week with them, and asked them to consider these measures and naturally, this was not a happy occasion. >> no, not a happy occasion, but you said, correct me if i'm wrong, a hair cut looks better than a beheading.

explain that. >> correct. what i was trying to convey is that a bankruptcy may even be worse than what we proposed. and so, i was hoping to do this by voluntary agreement, as terrible as it was, it might be better than what we offered in a bankruptcy. >> dave: and your plan to cut pay, a couple of bullet point. starts with the retirement age and deals with how long you're on the job. if you can take us through it step by step? >> well, generally, we wanted to cut the pensions by half all the though we wanted to put circuit breakers in there, by that i mean, points below which we wouldn't go. and one of which is $10,000, no pensioner would be slashed below 10,000, and also, we had a 50% cut off. so, we wanted to put that in place. there are also measures to

provide lower pensions, if you retire early, and generally, we needed to reform a system where people were retiring way too early with more than the city could afford. this is a very poor city, with 19,000 residents, we've been taxing them to the limit. and so, we've got to come up with another way to restructure the city so that it can be viable in the future and this is part of it. >> you know, what these people are saying, they're saying we didn't get you into this mess. why should we bail you out? >> well, the question is how do we solve this problem. it's unfortunate that we're in this dilemma, but everybody's going to have to contribute if the city's going to make it in the future. i'm not arguing this because they're to blame for it. they're not. we told them as much. but everybody is going to have to give up something or the golden goose is going to stop

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>> good morning, it's sunday, july 24th, i'm juliet huddy in for alisyn camerota. he killed dozens and said it was necessariment chelg details in the twin attacks in norway, disturbing comparisons to attack here at home. >> dave: could there be a break through in the debt ceiling showdown? house speaker boehner satisfies he has a plan. will the president go for it e the f.a.a. stopped collecting taxes on plane tickets a couple of days ago, should be a saving for you, trickle down you think. but not every airline is sharing the wealth. some are being scrooges.

we'll tell you which are and which are nice. "fox & friends" hour two starts right now. ♪ >> hi everybody. happy sunday. >> clayton: happy sunday. welcome to the show. thank you so much for waking up with us. >> dave: thanks for starting your sunday with us. woo he have a lot to get to today including the latest on these debt ceiling talks. we're in dangerous territory and we're talking about a potential default. will they get a plan out by later this afternoon? it appears absolutely necessary to calm the markets. more in a couple of minutes. >> clayton: we have our political panel coming up and we'll debate that. and new details about the attack in norway and creepy details about this suspect, anders br eecheivik. admitted responsibility. it was harsh, i had to do it. here are details released this

morning. they say that the oz low bomb was oklahoma city type bomb. packed with fertilizer and diesel fuel packed into a panel truck, sounds eerily familiar, wouldn't it. >> juliet: a 1500 page manifesto, looks like he was planning this since about 2009 and spoke online four times about oklahoma city bomber timothy mcveigh, that was obviously something in his mind when he with as planning these attacks, the similarities with the fertilizer and so forth that he purchased as well. >> dave: he predicted, quote, europe will soon burn again. part of a nazi group that wanted to rid europe of islam and maxism and i think one of the most frustrating developments, response took 50 minutes for an s.w.a.t. team to be dispatched to the scene. >> clayton: on the island. >> dave: 40 minutes for them to find the man, because they couldn't find a helicopter. couldn't get access to a boat

and i think tells a little about the naive te. >> and he used trust we were hearing from some of our guests, norway is a peaceful country and dressed as a police officer, lured them into one area. and wrote this in some online journals, creepy, take look, in europe, continue to refuse to volume trailer transfer political and military power to our conservative revolutionary forces, then the second world war is likely to going to appear as a picnic compared to the coming carnage. >> juliet: take you to the websites and his favorite show is dexter, the show about a serial killer. >> dave: that's not-- >> i mean, teenie little-- >> clayton likes the show and i'm feeling uncomfortable

right now. >> juliet: you know what i'm trying to say here, the guy had some sort of interest or at least fascination, you know, with this sort of underbelly of society. >> clayton: and whether or not more people were involved, we'll keep you up-to-date on that as fox news rolls along. >> dave: the debt ceiling talks and folks, we're nine days out and it looks like we have no agreement. we have no deal, nothing that is agreed between house, the senate, the president, we could be facing a potential default, we also could be talking about our credit status being downgrade, even if there's a deal. and john boehner says he's going to release something later this afternoon, preventing the asian markets from going into panic, will it be a deal that anyone likes? >> it doesn't sound like the president likes the deal or the democrats like the deal. thing for them they don't want this to be a short-term debt ceiling raising, they want this to be it. that's it. >> and this is why they're looking for today.

as dave mentioned nine days, but a lot of concern about the markets and the futures and of course, the asian markets open early. and they're sort of a bellwether and get a sense of how things are going to happen on mondays. that happens 6 p.m. u.s. futures trade 6 p.m. the japanese markets open here at 8 p.m. eastern time. and and the hong kong markets open at 10 p.m. eastern time. of course the president had the meeting with the big wigs and it wasn't a very long meeting and then, apparently we're hearing that john boehner went in and said, look, mr. president, we were talking about the sports analogies, but taking the ball out of this court, with the white house. i'm going to be dealing with the senate and with the house at this point. >> well, you mentioned one of the most important points in that short-term extension, that's what john boehner wants, a two tiered system that involves a short-term extension that would expire around the time of the election, imagine getting through another debt ceiling increase in the midst of a very intense election, i don't

know how they're going to get that through. >> democrats don't want that and of course, president obama wants this to be done one time to go through 2012 and-- . why though? why? do you think that's for the markets or for the politics? >> well, i don't know that there's a lot of both sides. republicans yesterday came out and said we don't want to go through this again and speaker boehner putting forth, can we do this and not have another vote in 2012 and go through this again. one side is the short-term extension. the other side of this would be they're going to create what's called a super committee. i love this, can't create just a committee. a super committee where they work on spending and cuts up to 4 trillion dollars. democrats are uneasy and republicans are uneasy, that this would ever come to fruition. >> we've heard about that for years and years, the super committees that will promise to change things down the road. >> that's kind of like the investigation. we're going to launch an investigation. you never end up hearing what happened with the investigation, but this should probably be a pretty big news day, it's sunday and chris

wallace will talk with us later who is on the program. tim geithner and-- >> he's was going to speak to speaker boehner, the first interview what his plan may be, the details. >> juliet: we shall see, keep it tuned to fox news channel. had a bloody end to a birthday celebration in texas. six people are dead after a gunman opened fire inside a roller rink in grand prairie, texas, many of you know it's a suburb 15 miles west of dallas. police believe he was related to many of the victims and came to last night's party, who settle an argument with his wife. at some point lost control. pulled out a pistol and witnesses at nearby businesses reported children were screaming, running out of the building. so were still wearing their roller skates. after shooting five and wounding four others, appears the gunman turned the weapon on himself. he has not survived and police have not released any of the names involved in the case. the search resumes this morning with two men who went missing in wisconsin's

chippewa river. the speed boat came crashing into their pontoon look boat. the driver of that boat and another passenger on the boat were killed in the crash and these two men thrown into the water. three people survived. she was the first bond girl starring as the super spy as love interest in the 1954 adopttation. mexican actress, linda christian has died. a starlet in the 1940's, 1950's known for her marriage to hollywood icon tyrone power and a string of movies, tarzan and the muhr maid. up in arms empty one of dave's favorite. >> christian died of colon cancer, 84 years old. in chicago, record breaking rainfall has many streets flooded and homes are underwater. stranded drivers on city streets, never good to have your car submerged like that. after more than six inches of rain fell in a single

afternoon. that broke records for the city. last checked, tens of thousands of chicagoans are still without power and that of course leads to a wonderful segue with maria. >> maria, i can't believe 90 degrees feels to me like almost a cooldown after the last two days. >> feels a lot better than two days ago and even yesterday we were looking at heat index values in the triple digits so it's been a hot couple of days, not just here in new york, but across much of the midwest, southeast and also the southern plains. though, unernl to dealing with the hot temperatures out there. all because of a high pressure system that's finally going to get out of the eastern seaboard and taking a look at today's highs. high at 91. minneapolis, today's high 85 degrees. big cooldown out there all because of a cold front that will be bringing in relief as well to new york, as we head into tomorrow. otherwise, headed into the southern plains, we're not expecting any improvement from hot temperatures like the city of dallas, texas with today, a

high of 104 and raleigh, north carolina expecting a hot temperature as well at 97 degrees. now, it's not just the actual temperatures that are bad. but when you factor in the humidity. it makes it feel even hotter and so because of the hot heat index values, as well as into the hundreds we have a number of excessive heat warnings across the midwest as well as the eastern seaboard and heat advisories, the lighter colors also in effect. upper 90's to triple digit heat index values. as far as any precipitation goes, you did see incredible images out of chicago with flooded roadways, we're expecting additional showers and storms beginning to approach the chicago area as we head into the next couple of hours and northeast, also dealing with light stuff. most of this not even really reaching the ground, but we will continue to see the scattered showers and thunderstorms throughout the day because of the hot temperatures. that cold front and also a lot of humidity in place. four corners region very typical for this time of the yeert to see the scattered showers and thunderstorms firing up and as we head into

tomorrow. new york city, high temperature. 82 degrees, much better, you guys, so looking forward to start of the work week. >> juliet: double digits everywhere. >> dave: thanks, maria. >> clayton: let's talk about what happened over the weekend. in washington. you tpically want to drop things on friday night when things happen in washington. f.a.a., federal aviation administration basically couldn't get its ducks in a row with regards to collecting taxes on airline tickets, basically they don't have the infrastructure to basically collect taxes on airline tickets. you'd think, that's great news. if i'm going to travel, right, i am a going to get airline tickets that are tax-free. >> we're so excited about this yesterday. >> well, the f.a.a. was essentially totally shut down and despite the tax checking ability. unless you worked there, it was good news, you were going to get 60 to $70 off every earl ticket you purchased. wait a minute, some airlines say we're not going to pass

along the savings to you on taxes, we're going to add it on to the current price of airline tickets. and that would mean 25 million dollars a day for these airlines. >> juliet: let's give you the good news first. i love virgin america by the way, a great airline, so cool inside, by the way. virgin america, it's all lit up, wild. >> clayton: purple and they're sharing the savings. they did not, and they actually did a bit of a promotion about this. we're not raising taxes and did an online campaign. >> juliet: taxes and-- >> spirit did not. they're letting you reap the berths of this. >> dave: who is the scrooge of the airlines. >> juliet: northwest, air tran and united. >> dave: southwest? >> if again, unconfirmed reports that they, some companies say they may, in fact, keep the money. u.s. airways and american airlines. so instead of you saving $60 to $70 per ticket, they're

just going to collect an extra 50 to $70 profit. >> clayton: thought no one would notice. >> juliet: well, "fox & friends" is here to take care of that. >> dave: is it good business if you're the airlines or horrible pr? i don't think they counted on this being floated out there in the media and they're exploding on-- >> i think it's horrible pr. >> southwest makes a big deal about the no baggage fees, your bags fly free and then that was one of the companies that came out and did it, i think that flies in the face of what they stand for. >> maybe things will change and maybe do something nice and help us out. maybe not. >> dave: and president obama sending the markets into a panic on purpose to get leverage in the debt talks? really? our political panel debates the financial frenzy. >> juliet: as an elected official, you think it's her job to defend the pledge of allegiance. well, it wouldn't be a story if that was actually the case. so, why is this county clerk now facing a grand jury for trying to keep it in the official records.

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>> welcome back, everybody. debt talks are coming down to the wire, but is the president using scare tactics to get the deal he wants? >> that would require cutting social security or medicare substantially. we have now run out of time. if washington operates as usual and can't get anything done, let's at least avert armageddon. >> dave: a new op-ed says the president is sending the markets into a panic on purpose. our political panel this morning, margaret hoover shaking her head during that entire montage. fox news contributor and author of the new book, american individualism, show

it. alan colmes from the alan colmes radio show chuckled at that assessment. >> yeah. >> dave: and political commentator, china, welcome to you all. is he using scare tactics or an honest assessment of the tire situation facing the country? >> he's clearly trying to rally everyone he can to get his outcome. fortunately the u.s. market were closed, but affects the asian markets. john boehner said on a conference call, widely reported, he's trying to get a counter statement out there in order for the asian markets to get calm down. they've stabilized and the markets have gotten used to this rhetoric going up and down and a way of adjusting, it's not responsiblement using words like armageddon shows how desperate the president is to get his thing through and the reason that boehner withdrew, they keep moving the goal posts and wanted to add taxes to this. >> dave: is this armageddon. >> i prefer death panels, the

phrase i use, i don't get to use it in in context. but writing the op-ed, a far right wing commentator, a marxist who hates america and purposely wants to destroy the economy because-- >> that's what you said not me. that's the implication, come on, what you're implying. it's patently absurd he would purposely do something like this. >> dave: you say this is assessment of what's going on. >> of course assessment. >> dave: and a lie though, right, those social security checks are going out and he knows it, i know it and-- . they may or may not go out. i don't know that for sure. >> oh, come on. >> look, he also said that we're definitely going to have to, he will take whatever actions necessary to make sure that-- that is calming the markets. he said what he needed to say. >> dave: china, how is the president handling this? >> well, you know, i think he's being honest. i think that the language of that op-ed suggests that he's gaming the american people and that is a little hostile, it's toxic, it's what's polluting the political system.

to suggest that the president of a country is purposely putting the country at risk is something that does not signal to the american people that we are in an environment of politics where people actually want to work together, amicably. so, to me, that commentary, far right wing, fine, i feel it was hostile. >> dave: i know it's impossible to get quick answers, will we get a short-term extension? >> i don't think he's going to go for it. >> at the very least. >> absolutely, i think we will. >> dave: that was brilliant, concise, short, quick, we are going to be back because you're so quick, we're going to bring them back. our panel, getting a lot of buzz and governor rick perry giving new clues he may be considering the oval office. and rick perry, that's-- >> if he jumps in is it a game changer for the entire election. a teenager accused of throwing a party right after murdering his parents with a hammer. dr. keith ablow explains what

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in the republican field to me and it is, it's a total game changer within the field. >> dave: absolutely. >> he would eat up michele bachmann in ohio, i'm sorry, in iowa and newt gingrich and rick santorum with be finished. >> who. >> dave: he's not on the ballot in iowa caucus and remind us. but alan, will he have rock solid support of the social conservative and do you think-- >> i think he's perceived as a far right evangelical candidate and turn off moderates and here is our solution, let's pray. you know, he's always successionist at one point and people want today succeed from texas and considered so far to the right. i think he may be doing well in the polls, but as people find out more about him i'm not sure he would resonate with mainstream republicans. >> dave: margaret suggested, china, could make some of the candidates obsolete, santorum, gingrich coming up later in the program. >> aren't they already. >> dave: what does it do to

the lower tier of candidates. >> i want to suggest first of all, that a rasmussen poll came out, fine, he may be a game changer in the g.o.p. field. if it was just him against president obama. 10% of voters would actually vote for a third party candidate. while he may be making waves within the g.o.p. fields, on the national level, i don't see him as being as that much as a quote, unquote game changer. >> dave: people don't know who he is. that's too early to make a poll. who is gone if he gets in. >> i think that rick santorum is gone. michele bachmann is heavily damaged. i think that newt gingrich is gone and herman cain, lower field candidates, added texture, but not for the final-- rick perry is governor is a

succe success. >> the guy is anti-muslim, a number of bigoted statements, santorum they ever hear about the guy and these people are basically out and no chance the people can get the nomination. >> dave: last word china? >> let's not forget campaign numbers. president obama raised more than double the entire field. so, there's going to be a lot of catching up to do. >> dave: certainly will be. >> it's a field changer, not a game channinger. >> dave: i like that assessment. margaret, china, and alan colmes, thank you for being here, appreciate it, good luck with the book. >> thank you. >> juliet: she's an elected official, do you think she should be defending the pledge of allegiance. it's not the case in texas. we'll tell you what's going on with that and also, travelling with your canines, your doggies could get a little rough. yeah, i said it. i'll tell you what's going on with that coming up. ♪

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>> welcome back to "fox & friends." take a look at this. your shot of the morning. a diver nearly swallowed by a whale shark. taken off the coast of cancun and the diver managed to outswim the 30 foot long beast. how do you-- . the experts say that whale sharks doan eat people, they are skimming for food on the

surface. >> how does it know what it is. >> it's doesn't know it's a diver, but they have terrible eyesight. >> juliet: that's why i don't go scuba diving or-- whale sharks. >> you're worried about getting skimmed off the-- >> i don't like anything underwater unless i'm eating it. >> and listen to the next story, imagine if one of your elected officials was defending the pledge of allegiance they would almost be celebrated, right? not in bowie county, texas. natalie nichols who you're looking add now, the only elected republican in the county is facing the possibility of being called before a grand jury for defending the pledge of allegiance. all she did during the minutes recorded after a meeting when the minutes were being read back, she said wait a second. why did you exclude the pledge from that, that was part of the official record the pledge of allegiance. and the judge said, quiet, quiet. and she yelled back, you're lying, they were in there, that was part of the official

record. now she's being, she could face a $2,000 fine and a number of-- >> or interrupting a public meeting. >> she was trying to get accuracy back in the public record. >> juliet: the judge sterling lacy, he's probably responsible for moving the pledge and the mention of prayer from official court records and so he's asked the, yeah, he's asked the folks to investigate whether the actions by this woman at the meeting are somehow illegal, a misdemeanor perhaps. >> dave: here is what natalie nichols says, defending herself. are we afraid to be patriotic in america? many not, will not sit down wheel people drag our country into a direction that makes me not recognize it anymore. if convicted of misconduct. automatic removal from office. >> clayton: yeah, including prison time and $2,000 fine for trying to get that back in the public record. so, let us know what you think about this, friends@foxnews.com, find us

on twitter as well. ff weekend is the place to go. >> juliet: all righty to other headlines. libya says it's willing to hold more talks with the united states and rebel leaders, but representatives from muammar gaddafi say he will not step down from power, nor will he leave the country. this comes as germany just loaned libyan rebels to help the country rebuild. n.a.t.o. air strikes are continuing. 11 people are wouned when shots are fired at a low rider car show outside of seattle, washington. everybody who was hurt is expected to survive and nobody has been arrested and no word how many shooters were involved. police say the gunfire started after an argument turned into a fight and it may have been gang related. thousands of wounded troops have gone there to be trained, but this week, walter reed medical center begins the process of closing its doors. on weapons, the flags outside the hospital will be retired and in the next six weeks, patients moving to bethesda, maryland, where the hospital will merge with the national

naval medical center, and they talked about closing walter reed years ago because the buildings are so old. do you like to travel, does your dog go everywhere with you? paris hilton, airlines are banning certain breeds from air travel during the summer. why would you ban that guy? i don't understand. [laughter] >> the ban affects, this is serious, flat faced dogs like pugs, bulldogs and boxers. >> dave: why? >> i'll tell you, dave, according to a study flat-faced dogs were more likely to get nervous and in the car that's not a problem unless your my dog cheeto, who gets horribly car sick. >> dave: and spuds mckenzie, put the goggles on the dog. >> clayton: mooe maria is in

for rick. cooling down, a high of 91 in new york city today, i guess that's what it means because we have improved. we saw highs friday at 104 and yesterday we reached a high at 99 degrees in central park so again, lower 90's today and then by monday, actually talking lower 80's. so that's a big improvement here as that high pressure system that brought on all of the hot temperatures finally begins to weaken and also shifts eastward and other areas in the country are also seeing improvement. especially if you live further off to the north in minneapolis, expecting a high in the 80's, currently 63, but further south. no relief in sight. dallas already looking a the a current temperature at 84. 87 in kansas city and 80 degrees already early this morning in raleigh, north carolina, and it's just going to get worse guys, further off to the south we are going to continue to see that sunshine and we click ahead. take a look at some of the high temperatures for the day. we're talking triple digits again, expected across portions of dallas, texas and this is a heat index currently

right now across portions of the u.s. 91 in kansas city, currently feels leike 88 in dallas, and feels like 89 degrees in new york city. i will confirm that, feels warm and muggy and clicking ahead today's forecast expecting a few showers and thunderstorms across the northeast, southeast and even portions further off to the midwest, like the city of chicago, which by the way, we've seen quite a bit of showers and storms already this weekend producing localized flooding and clicking ahead as we head westbound, expecting beautiful weather out west, 85 the high today in los angeles and 79 in seattle with a lot of sunshine, still, again, the west expecting beautiful weather conditions that are so typical for them, over the summer months, otherwise, currently across the u.s., we have some showers and storms already in place across portions of the northeast, as we click ahead you'll have the radar image across portions also of the great lakes and the four corners region

looking at scattered showers and thunderstorms, but heavier stuff, guys, will be across the great lakes, where we are going to have that cold front moving through. and bringing in that bit of a relief that we so need. >> thanks, maria. >> thanks, maria. breaking news on the twin attacks in norway. more arrests now made. the developing details ahead. >> and a judge ordered a government to let veterans say god and military funerals and one congressman says it's not happening and he wants to do something about it, we are going to talk to him live next hour. we keep talking about hitting the debt ceiling. what does it mean for you and your bottom line, how you should invest your money if washington does not come up with a deal. ♪ verizon claims i 4g lte is twi as fast as &t.

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learned to the attacks, from reuters, has not been confirmed. more information as it comes in. to california now, where fire crews are battling a large wildfire in ventura county, a fire prone area. the fire has burned 15 acres so far and crews are expected to have it under control entirely and that will happen soon, a the least one firefighter was hurt. clayton. >> thanks, juliet. debt talks stalled. what happens if there is no deal before august 2nd. interest rates could increase and lending to small businesses would be more limited. what does it all mean for our wallet? a wealth manager and financial advisor with chapwood capital investment management. nice to he zoo you -- nice to see you. we want to know how it affects our family come august 2nd if we don't get a debt ceiling increase. >> if even we get a debt ceiling increase, if it's not

what the rating agencies want. we could see a downgrade how they view our debt. if that happens, the ripple effect will be tremendous around the world because everything is based off of u.s. interest rates around the world. >> clayton: i mentioned small businesses there in the intro. what does it mean, they won't be able to borrow as much or spend as much because of interest? >> it's important to understand this. they'll be able to borrow money, but pay more, and when they pay more, that's less earnings. same thing happens for the stock prices, if in fact they have to pay more to borrow money, as a result of this happening, you're going to start seeing less earnings and because of that, stock prices will start to fall. >> clayton: some other things, how we can protect ourselves, as you look at your family finances should i move money around from my 401 d the treasury bonds. you say stay fully invested, don't get out. >> never get out. people never know when to get back in. stock prices next two and

three years are going to go higher a lot to do with interest rates being relatively low compared to stock prices. stay fully invested in your 401(k). >> clayton: we hear about blue chip stocks, the big companies, the general electric, those big companies that are always, they're always going to be strong no matter what, weather any sort of thing. you say buy utility stocks and big company stocks that pay dividends. >> first of all if interest rates rise, that hurts smaller stocks than bigger companies. stay to bigger companies, utility stocks are the most undervalued sector in the market. in any 401(k). if you have a utility stock or a fund to buy. i warn you get out of your small growth funds. those are going to get-- >> small growth funds get out of. when you say utility stocks it that's over somebody's head, give us an example. >> typical utility stock might be, you know, edison, you might have a dominion resources, those categories,

but instead of trying to pick one, go out and buy xlu, an etf, almost like a mutual fund fund of stocks, many of them. >> clayton: multiple. you you say move assets in your 401(k) plan outside of those small growth funds. you need to be aware of what those are, that's an issue. >> a lot of people don't know, go back, everybody gets a statement and look and see if you have small growth funds and done well so a lot of people put money into them and put money in recently. the las two years have done well. this is a time to reduce that. >> clayton: okay, good tip. also you say don't own any interest rate sensitive bonds and talking about interest rates, that makes a lot of sense. >> yes, you have to have your head examined if you're buying any government bonds or municipal bonds longer to maturity than two or three years from now, don't buy them. >> clayton: and we hear about gold. and stuart varney yesterday talking about gold prices that's been the standard. everybody is buying gold. what's it going to do gold? >> gold prices will go higher

because of the perception of inflation. don't over do it. people get in trouble when they overdo anything. >> clayton: they expect to get rich overnight. great tips, thank you. >> thank you. >> clayton: coming up on the show, a teenager accused of murdering his parents and then throwing a party right afterwards. the teen blames ecstacy pills. could that really set him off? dr. keith ablow examines that case next. the nascar nation, i know pleasing fans is a top priority, 'cause without the fans, there'd be no nascar. just like if it weren't for customers, there'd be no nationwide. that's why they serve their customers' needs, not shareholder profits. because as a mutual, nationwide doesn't report to wall street, they report to their customers. and that's just one more reason why the earnhardt family has trusted nationwide for more than 30 years. nationwide is on your side. our girl's an architect.

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>> welcome back. this is a really disturbing case out of florida. a teenager there accused of killing his parents with a hammer. and then inviting 60 friends over for a house party. 17-year-old tyler hadly took three ecstacy tablets he said before allegedly murdering his parents.

dr. keith ablow is here to take another look at the case. always a pleasure to see you, doctor. >> how are you, juliet. >> juliet: i'm all right. first of all, explain what ecstacy is? >> ecstacy is a drug of abuse, it's an intoxicant and euphor euphor euphoriant. and pleasurable feeling, more connect today others and em thetically connected to others. it's not something that typically leads people to have hallucinate and have highlight thoughts, not typically. >> juliet: according to reports, his parents have been going back and forth with i am had about going to some sort of outpatient drug rehab so it seems he had a problem with drugs. have you ever had of a case where ecstacy would make somebody react in a way that was so violent and brutal as to kill your parents? >> well, first of all, we don't know, i haven't seen a chemical analysis on the substance. lots of people buy things that

are said to be ecstacy or said to be another drug of abuse, which are cut with other substances or not that substance at all. i think they have to look at the chemical composition of just what tyler hadley took and also, people mix drugs. was there something else involved? very often these are dose dependent phenomena. did he take so much of it that his nervous system reacted in an atypical fashion? but also, juliet. what's the man's baseline? the kind of things he was describing would make a psy psychiatrist want to diagnose him for another there. >> juliet: give me an example. >> i haven't evaluated this young person. >> juliet: right. >> but if somebody had the beginning of schizophrenia and neighbors have apparently said that there was a complete lack of tactful affect in this young man, no pleasure expressed, no particular--

if he was under a dilution, fixed and false belief that his parents were after him or some kind of scheme alive in the world, we need to hear that from him. so, a complete diagnostic evaluation is called for and i'm terribly concerned, gravely, and word intentionally chosen, gravely concerned about this connection with the party afterwards, a complete disconnect. >> juliet: and there, yeah, a bunch of kids there, a lot of them seemed like he was just normal, happy. and did take one of his friends reportedly aside and said, hey, look, this is what i did. the friend didn't believe him, he's having a party at the house and the kids were smoking and drinking and so forth and all of a sudden, the child, the other kid sees a bloody footprint and goes in the room and sees the mass chaos that obviously had ensued. >> and of course, the attorneys are going to plead insanity and some of the evidence will be, look, if he was conscious of hits guilt. how could he throw a party? >> another question for you, he admitted to standing behind

his mother at first for about five minutes, before he went and killed her with a hammer. what does that tell you? the delay, five minutes watching her? >> the prosecutors will argue, look, this is obvious intention. he's debating, should i do it, shouldn't i, and then he piles furniture apparently on the bodies, to try to hide them, shows guilt. you ever who, what i would say is, in addition to that, you've got to evaluate this, that five minute period if it's accurate is the kind of thing that patients it will me they're trying to make their way through some of these very bizarre thoughts. you know, with the feeling of, wait, that's my mother, trying to compete with, but i really feel as though if i don't kill her, the devil's coming back to earth. now, what should i do? and that's literally, i'm telling you, i've sat with these people, juliet and that's the kind of struggle they get into in their minds. i treated a woman who believed

all her children, believed it to the core of her being, had been replaced by masquerading doubles and if she killed them, her real children would be restored. i got her in the hospital before that happened. could it have happened? sure. >> juliet: the parents, a lot of parents in the area, especially the ones who had-- whose kids were at this party say they're letting their kids watch the news conference and getting kids educated what exactly is going on and happening with the investigation because it's almost like a message to them don't do drugs, this is what could happen. is that a good idea for parents to do that? >> is that a good idea for parents? i think, listen, i think it's probably a good idea in cases like winehouse who overdosed sadly at 27. in this case, where somebody who may have had another mental illness, but it can be made worse by drugs, runs into massive trouble, and lives are taken because of it, sure. it's time that kids learned that charlie sheen is no hero,

he's a bust out public enemy number one, telling them to use cocaine and bad thing can happen. >> juliet: dr. ablow, thanks for joining us. >> take care. >> juliet: coming up, a growing call for rick perry to join the g.o.p. presidential race, some say if he jumps in candidates like newt gingrich becomes irrelevant and gingrich responds at the top of the hourment dozens of atlanta teachers cheated on tests, denied students a fair education and one of their students going to college and students going to college and she's concerned. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. is where do you go to find a super business?

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alone. the developing details coming up. >> and the heelt i heat is on ie house. john boehner under pressure to reveal his plan today. very, very soon before the markets open, will he sto his tt critic buy in? will rick perry join the presidential race? beginninfox and friends hour 3 s right now. >> good morning. good sunday morning, everyone. welcome to fox and friends. that is dave briggs and the lovely and talented juliette in for alisyn this morning and

clayton morris. we start this morning with some big news out of capitol hill. treasure secretary tim geithner saying moments ago he's sure america will not default of the august deadline. he's saying john boehner's two-tier plan does not have enough support to pass. >> it could spark a worldwide stock selloff starting tonight. peter doocy is live. >> reporter: geithner is basically saying if the markets open for the week and there's no deal on the horizon, some are worried there could be a complete financial melt down. our markets don't open until tomorrow. the asian markets open tonight.

a senior republican congressional aid tells fox that both parties are looking at this, the two-tier plan that dpiet ner doesn't think has enough support. a debt ceiling increase that's smaller than that. at this point there would be no revenue increases. the hope is this deal will get us to next year. after that the second tier would be some kind of special committee with people from the house and the senate who would try to figure out more ways to cut the deficit. still, both parties today and yesterday sniping at each other with dueling statements. speaker boehner saying, quote, for moments we've laid out our bill. we passed a debt limit increase with the reforms the american people demand. the cut cap and balance bill. the democrats who run washington have refused to offer a plan. the top democrat in the senate says quote, i've said repeatedly including last night and again today that i will not support any agreement that fails to raise the debt ceiling through the end of 2012. anything less than that will

fail to provide the certainty that the markets and the world are looking for, risking an immediate down grade of america's crediting rating. expect to hear more from both sides today and every day until something is done. >> peter, did tim geithner acknowledge it makes more sense to do the cuts now and the entitlement changes, the revenue side later? did he acknowledge that? >> reporter: his big thing is he said the top priority needs to be raising the debt ceiling for at least the next 18 months. >> okay. >> reporter: just get that done. >> sounds like he's in support vaguely of what john boehner is trying to do. peter, thank you very much. whether the votes are there are not is the larger question. more details about wha this morning about what's going on in norway. the country reeling from the shock and horror after the massacre that unfolded over the weekend. norwegian at thi police have red several people in a raid that they think may be related to the

attacks, although that has not been confirmed. >> we're getting a lot more information in color about this terror attack or the two terror attacks. the suspect has admitted responsibility for them. yes, he admits these tax were aproashes, yoatrocious, he admit he said it was necessary. >> 92 are dead, 5 still missing. news from a friend out there covering the story as we speak. norway has no capital punishment. they say maximum jail term there is 21 years. imagine this. if anders bri pry anders breivio walk, authorities are working on official charges, as long as 30 years they can keep him. imagine that guy. >> no life sentence. >> this country is the home of the oslo accord, the nobl nobele

prize. it's an absolutely shock. it's eeriely reminiscent of the oklahoma city bombing. he used a fertilizer and packed panel truck to do the bomb in downtown oslo. it's remarkable that more people weren't killed in downtown oslo. more people were killed at the camp site. >> lying th like the unabomber,a manifesto that alludes to him planning this for a long time he. talked about oklahoma city bomber timothy mcveigh on line. he predicted that europe will soon burn again, a quote. small details are coming out. also when he was out at this camp, for an hour and a half basically, just shooting, just shooting these children. >> kids running. there's still five people missing at this hour. that death toll could increase. maybe we'll be lucky and they'll be found, some scattered and ran into the woods and some tried to

swim away as he was shooting. we'll get some new information on anders breivik coming up a little later. another fox news alert. overnight, five people are rushed to area hospitals after a shooting at a casino near seattle. two of the victims are in critical condition. authorities say it happened earlier this morning at a nightclub inside the casino. the shooter was arrested. police are investigated why it went down. new information on a bloody birthday celebration in texas. six people are dead after a gunman opened insid fair fire ia roller rink in grand prairie. the killer appears to be the father of the 11-year-old birthday boy. he apparently came to last night's party looking to settle an argument with his wife. at some point that father reportedly lost control and pulled out a pistol. >> they were definitely panicked. i mean, kids were still in

skates. adults were not wearing shoes. they were definitely in a hurry to get out of there. >> five people were killed, four wounded before the shooter turned the gun on himself. he did not survive. the search resumes for two men who went missing in a wisconsin river. this accident happened on friday night. the driver boast and of the bod passenger in another boat were killed in the crash. two men were thrown into the water. three people survived. investigators don't know what caused the death of singer amy winehouse but an autopsy is being performed today. results won't be known for a few days. the 27-year-old talent was found dead in her london apartment yesterday. in real life she actually did go to rehab several times. that, of course, is one of her biggest hits. her success in music was coupled

with severe drug and alcohol addiction that plagued her. she would show up to concerts, wasted, couldn't perform. winehouse joins a long list of 27-year-old musicians who have tragically died, incredibly people like jim morrison, kurt cobain. maria is in for a look at the forecast. >> good morning, everyone. we're tracking thunderstorms early this morning across portions of the great lakes, specifically just to the west shifg which, bofchicago which r4 inches in the overnight hours. we're looking at severe thunderstorm warnings in effect with these storms. those should be impacting southern portions of the city. otherwise, scattered showers and also thunderstorms will fire up throughout the day across the northeast and we've been talking heat wave throughout an entire week now, and again today. hot temperatures in the south. 104 will be the high in dallas, texas, but relief for noarn areas. 85 will be the high in

minneapolis and 91 in new york city. still hot, guys, but better than what we've been dealing with over the past several days. back to the debt ceiling talks. we're in some hot water regarding our debt ceiling, regarding our credit, and we're going to bring in a man who knows about how all of this works. newnewt gingrich, good morning o you. john boehner is working on a two-tear diltwo-tier deal. the big question, can they get through a short-term raise of the debt ceiling? how do you think this thing ends? >> well, i think they have to get some kind of short-term deal done because a repudiation of the debt would be unconstitutional. the cont constitution is clear t the government has to meet their obligation. i wrote a paper at newt.org outleaninoutliepg a muchoutlinit

ceiling. get through two months. this idea of writing trillion dollar bill s in secret negotiations, i think it's an inherently bad idea. i think it's not going to work. >> mr. speaker, you know what the rating agencies have said. even standard and poors came out and said a short-term fix isn't good enough for us and a possibility as a down grade as a result of this. >> look at the current interest on the u.s. debt. it's the least expensive interest rate in the world. i don't care what wall street does to try to scare the rest of the country. the fact is if you got a several month debt ceiling extension and people saw the system working and it was out in the open and people knew what was going on, you'd be much better off than this. we've had several weeks now of a soap opera of secret meetings at the white house in which people get very emotional. the president comes on for 30 minutes and tells us what his

personal saga is this weekend. this is balon. ney. the american people deserve to know what's being agreed to in advance. the idea never smal of another l committee imaginely solving this. >> that's what john boehner wants. how do you evaluate our current speaker and how he's handling it? >> i'm suggesting to you the track we're currently on isn't going to work. i don't think it will pass the house. frankly, the report of the second part of the deal having a revenue increase? they talk tax reform but somehow the tax reform will magically produce trillions in money. that's called a tax increase. pretending it's tax reform if its a tax increase will not pass the house, and the american people willing disgusted. we have a terrible economy, over 99% unemployment, and we should find solutions that increase the number joives of jobs, not solus

that kill jobs. >> one of the people rumord to enter the race in 2012 is rick perry from texas. we played a clip yesterday where he mistakenly referred to himself as president and laughed and corrected himself. we did have margaret hoover on here a little while ago. she said if perry joins the race, listen to what she has to say. >> what it does reflect is a real wanting in the republican field, and to me, and it's a total game changer within the field. >> absolutely. >> he would eat up michele bachmann in iowa, newt gingrich and sanit santorum will be fini. >> your response. >> i love washington people who make these analysis based on never having been there and never having done this. rick perry is a great person and a great friend. i wrote the forward to his most

recent book. he'll make a great candidate. sarah palin will make a great candidate. it's the american people, not the elite media who gets to decide who the candidates are. i'm looking forward to a chance to debate rick approximate err e comes in, sarah palin. >> thanks for joining us this morning on this sunday morning. more insight on the debt ceiling next with chris wallace. two major insiders, timothy geithner, treasury secretary and john boehner, the guy at the center of it all. we'll tell you about that next. we told you the faa stopped collecting taxes on plane tickets which should mean savings for you, but not every airline is sharing the wealth. we're reading your e-mails and tweets coming up. almost tastes like one of jack's als.

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of accused child killer levi aron. he is accused of murdering an 8-year-old boy. the first foreign born general to become chairman of the joints chiefs of staff. the general passed away from complications of a stroke. he was 75. well, treasury secretary tim geithner said moments ago he is sure america will not default before august 2nd, but john boehner's two-tier plan won't pass, either. >> nats the problem. that's the question right now, whether or not the votes will be there. both of those power players joining chris wallace. chris joins us moments before he speaks to those gentlemen. nice tto see you thisnice to se. >> the fox news bureau is briftling with security guards.

we've got the geithner team, the boehner team. this is the only place they will both be on this sunday dpl maybe the security team can find the votes. to me, that's the big question this morning. you have what speaker boehner reportedly asked the president yesterday or laid before the president. we'll hear that later today before the asian markets which is this two-tier plan, a short-term increase on the debt increase and a super committee formed later to tackle nearly $4 trillion in debt. timothy geithner saying this morning he doesn't think the speaker has the votes to get that done, even a short-term increase. what do you think. >> we're going to talk to him about that. it raises the question are the democrats going to be in a question where we'r they're sayg we're willing to hit the deadline, to crash the august 2nd deadline to ensure, in fact, that we exceed the deadline just to prevent the possibility that we might exceed it next year? that's a pretty hard case to make. we'll see how secretary geithner

answers that question when we talk to him at the top of the hour. >> chris, what do you feel about the fact that our credit will take some sort of a hit? >> not necessarily. i thought you were going to ask a different question, what do i think about the possibility that they may not be able to meet the deadline. i always would have said that that's impossible, that wiser heads would prevail. i'm not so sure any more. they don't seem to be able to get together. the republicans are saying -- a trillion dollars is not nothing. that gets us into early next year and we'll look for longer cuts. democrats are saying absolutely not. republicans are saying only spending cuts, democrats say it has to be balanced, spending cuts but also some revenue increases. i don't know how they get this together, and it is nine days and counting. >> one of the big surprises to

me was when it appeared the president was dangling out there raising the medicare age from 65 to 67, although it would take a few years, that's something the republicans would hang onto. that takes away their biggest argument moving ahead in the 2012 elections. is that something they get if we do a short-term extension. >> no, they don't. everything is off the table. look, you can argue it both ways. were republicans silly to walk away from a liberal democratic president proposing entitlement reform? you could argue were the democrats silly to walk away when speaker boehner, and we'll talk to him about this at the top of the hour, seems to have gone against his pledge and agreed with secretary geithner to $800 billion in added revenue through tax reform and closing loopholes, and the democrats apparently as boehner says, moved the goal posts. the president demanded 50% more, $400 billion more, and boehner aid that's just a bridge too

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>> welcome back. 24 minutes past the hour. a blistering 800-page report revealed widespread cheating by educators in the atlanta public school system. they tampered with standardized tests to boost scores and meet performance standards. those teachers are all on the way out but that's not enough for victims of the scandal. a lot of families say they've been cheated out of an education. this 17-year-old just graduated high school and she joins us with her mother as well. thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> just tell us. so you're going through school. did you ever notice hey, my

teachers are extremely helpful, maybe a little too helpful sm. >helpful? >> i've always thought that my teachers were helpful because they're teachers and that's what they're supposed to do, that's their job. i never thought they were overly helpful. they all made me work for what i had to do. they all made me work for what i needed to accomplish, and they taught me everything that i needed to know. but at a certain time, i did not know that i was being cheated while i was in my younger grades. >> when you found out this information about the cheating going on with teachers, you started to think about things that were going on within your own family and kids in your own family. explain. >> most definitely. as we are parents of four children in the atlanta public schools, certainly a lot of the schools that were on the top of the list were schools that my children attended, so of course, it kind of gives you a false sense of security that you're assuming that your children are doing well. my children are straight a

children. they've always exceeded and almost scores on th -- almost perfect scores on the state standardized test. with all of the things that came out in the last 17 months, it makes you feel like okay, are you sure this is what they're able t to accomplish? i need to have all my children reassessed to make sure this is the level that they're truly on, especially the ones still in the public schools. it's overwhelming and challenging as a parent. however, i do feel like i have my hand and my pulse on atlanta public schools and my children's eeducation. i try to stay abreast of t however, these are things you cannot know ahead of town # time what's going on and you're secure in what the teachers are saying. to hear it's possible not true is certainly devastating. >> you got into college. you're heading to college. is there any doubt you're going to be prepared? >> i don't have any doubt at all because i know with the help

from my parents and myself that i can do what i need to do, even though i probably have been cheated a couple of times on a test, i still know what i am capable of, and i know that my knowledge is where it needs to be in order for me to accomplish what i need to accomplish in college. >> you have other kids in school. i think as a parent, i'd probably walk in there and be like every time i met a teacher, i'd give them a luck. i suspect you're probably doing that as well. >> i think what also will happen, although i feel like i've been vigilant and very much involved, i will question every single thing. i will look. i have a younger son who is deaf and hard of hearing which means cease special needs. for him to have possibly been cheated, of course now i have to question, and i hate to say i'll be the parent from down under. >> now what you're saying. thanks very much. where are you going to college?

>> front valley state university. best of luck to you, my dear. >> thanks for having us. coming up, a court order to allow veterans to say god at military funerals, ordered, but hear from one congressman who says not happening. first, a prominent christian group is taking christ out of its name. they say they want to be a little more inclusive. father jonathan morris said it's no big deal. he's live coming up next. do you feel the pressure to facebook? even on vacation your e-mails, tweets, facebook messages coming up on this one.

>> welcome back, everybody. i'm dave briggs, he's clayton morris, and she's juliet who looks beautiful in the yellow dress. >> the story we're talking about going on vacation, a lot of people go on vacation. now we're in a trend where over the past ten years people field compelled to not set up auto responders, hey, i'm on vacation, don't bother me. now they feel compelled to not

only tweet and facebook, but to set up auto responders for their social media. what does this say to your family if you're supposed to be with your family on vacation and you're sitting there tweeting and sending photos of your beach shots? >> i don't have a family. >> a lot of you are writing in on the topic. >> a huge percent of people do that, facebook and tweet on vacation. we actually can't go on social media vacation. here's an e-mail from john. i see people who text while walking, walk right into doors and other obstructions. we're so technologically advanced that having a great vacation with the kids is a lost art. >> i can maybe give it to you when you're on vacation with the kids and all that stuff. when you're on vacation, sometimes it's just quiet time. the hours start going by and you start going okay, you know, enough of the peach. >beach. >> here's another tweet. this one says yes, while i'm on

vacation, i can't get on the internet. i go nuts. this was me a few weeks ago. i start getting the shakes with no internet connection. >> my family is not allowed to have cell computer on during the day and only one our half dinner. that's important. >> i'm going on vacation in a couple weeks. no tweets, no facebook posts. >> where are you going? >> we have a bet. >> going over to the uk, across the pond. >> our bet is if you tweet, if i see a tweet examine from you, you're going to buy me dinner, fish and chips and guinness. >> this is all your fault. i never did any social networking until i met you. you created the monster. >> you guys honestly during the commercial break started. >> during the segments. we're doing news headlines. right now i'm going to be tweeting. >> you're obsessed with it. just put it down. >> and we make that noise, too. >> for some o headlines, secrety

of state hillary clinton in indonesia. the vice foreign minister will visit new york this week to resume talks over korea's nuclear program. 11 people are wounded when shots are fired at a low rider car show outside seattle, washington. everybody who was hurt is expected to survive. no one has been arrested, and no word on how many shooters were involved. police say the gunfire started after an argument turned into a fight. they say it may have been gang-related. arnold schwarzenegger will revise his divorce papers, the ones that he signed. this time he will make sure his estranged wife, maria, will receive spousal support. last week if you recall, it got a little press. he signed papers denying her spousal support. he has a lot of money. i think he can afford it. he reportedly did not read the documents carefully and did not

intend to deny her in the first place. congress couldn't cut a deal to keep the faa running this week so that means no taxes. we were so excited. only two airlines will pass the savings to you. virgin america and spirit airlines. however, airlines like delta, southwest, air tran, and united will still collect the fee and rumor is they're going to keep it while congress gets its act together. almost rumored talso rumored toe profits, u.s. airways. most you have agree with jim on twitter. he tweets no surprise since airlines have been anti-consumer for years. i pretty much gave up when they started charging for the bags and the pillows and the little snacks. another big snub for the twins, the guys with the interesting last name that say they created facebook. not only did the judge dismiss their lawsuit against the real

facebook and its founder, mar mk zuckerberg. the guy who played the twins in the movie is cashing in on their unpopularity once again. he signed on to play both in an upcoming episode of the sim sons where he will try to steal lisa's up and coming social network idea. >> i didn't realize he played both parts. i thought they were twins. after the movie, we found out he played both parts. >> the chief is out partying. how is the weather out there? >> it's hot and muggy. feels like 91 degrees here in new york city. much of the country will feel pretty hot again as the heat wave will not give up. the good news is we'll finally see a relief from the hot temperatures as we head into tomorrow at least in the northwest. take a look already today. 91 in new york city. that's what it feels like. feels like 85 in raleigh and 86 degrees in kansas city. as far as how hot it's going to get today, we're looking at very

hot temperatures. we click ahead and we'll see some of the current or actual forecast high temperatures across the country. we're expecting triple digits again in dallas, texas. that will be the 23rd consecutive day of 100 degree weather. 96 in kansas city. expecting a high temperature at 97 degrees in raleigh, north carolina. because of the hot temperatures and high humidity lesms, we have a number of excessive heat warnings across the country throughout the midwest and along the eastern seaboard and heat advisories. along all of these areas we're talking upper 90 heat index values and into the triple digits. stay safe, everyone, stay hydrated, and stay in the air conditioning if possible. >> thanks, maria. a prominent christian ministry taking christ out of its name because they say it may aialienate people. >> some defend the move. >> we believe we needed to change the name to be more effective as a mission and as a

ministry. it had absolutely nothing to do with being politically correct. we didn't decide to take christ out of our name. we decided to change our name in order to be more effective at reaching people for christ. >> fox news religion correspondent and author of the book god wants you happy, fact r jonathan morris is here. we had this gentleman on here yesterday. the name of the organization now will be crew, so campus is out, crusade, christ, those words are out. there are some people upset about this. i kind of understand why they're doing it, though. >> i think there's a temptation to water down the message and the image of an organization with the changing times. why? because society is becoming increasingly secular. you don't want to look bad. there's a danger there. there's a temptation to not be who we are because of what other people think of us, but in this case, i think we should take them by their word. they've done tremendous work in

bringing the gospel and the message of jesus to college kids for years and years. they're saying we're not changing our message, we're not changing who we are, we're just saying that very often people refer to us as cru anyway, and now we're able to be who we are, but without putting people off by the word crusade, campus crusade for christ. of course, it has some negative connotations, not because of who they are but because of history. >> confused a little bit, though, when the vice-president of cru said that researchers found 9% of christians were alienated by the name. how is that? >> well, because of history. the crusades. i think it has a connotation of forcing the faith on people, obliging people to believe. not that that has ever been campus crusade's metion, but yes, if you say i'm part of campus crusade, hey, why are you talking to me, why are you

trying to get me to come to your event? it puts people off. >> are you concerned that people are turned off by christ being in the name? >> no. they said clearly that's not the reason they're changing the name, not to remove the word christ. people have often said cru for crusade, just a shorter name. they decided to go with it. i think we should take them by their word and not get too upset. >> the founder of the organization wanted to do this back in the '70s but they didn't do it back then. >> thank you, father. >> we should be very careful not to water down, of course, approximate we'rifwe're a chrisn to water down their message. >> their mission and message has not changed. >> good news on sunday morning. don't get much of that. coming up on the show and following, the twin terror tax attacks showing many similarities to the oklahoma city bombing.

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its a case of domestic extremism and there do not appear to be any known links to an outside terrorist group. we've had a series of arrest this morning but it appears to be an event driven by the act of a single suspect or a lone wolf operative, dave. >> it's a guy, anders breivik, thathat was not hiding his extremism. he had a video on line, active in social media. how was this missed? is that the take away? >> i have been reading through the manifesto. several things jumped out at me. number one, it's 1500 pages long. numb two, it shows a high level of premeditation. number three, he describes in this manifesto that he sent it to 7,000 of his best friends. in my book i said the social media is the drivers of extremism. let's say you have someone who believes the moon is made of green cheese.

they surround themselves with a thousand people who also believe the moon is made of green cheese. you have a reinforcing point of view. they conclude everyone else, 99.9% of the population that doesn't agree with our radical views, they're misinformed, we're right. it becomes very reinforcing, and it revs up, sort of the last step before they take these acts of violence. >> aren't these posts that the united states intelligence is monitoring all the time? they have no life sentences in norway, no capital punishment. is this something that needs to change in countries around the world? >> well, i think we want to be care bfl comparinful about comps and oranges. in the united states, cases of home grown extremism, one of the first tipoffs come from their internet traffic. we had a recent case about ten

days ago in pennsylvania. a ma young man is accused of usg the internet to recruit individuals to launch attacks inside the united states and of posting bomb making teerms and instructions on line. often here in the united states one of the tipoffs is the internet, is the social networking. he is facing those charges here from the f.b.i. >> thanks so much for joining us. the book is the next wave. we appreciate the information this morning. >> you're welcome. coming up, a judge ordered the government to let veterans say god at military funerals, but one congressman went undercover to find out if its still happening. his investigation ... next.

well, a judge has ordered the houston national cemetery to stop its practice of banning the

word god from military funeral services as it deals with three pending discrimination lawsuits, but our next guest wen went undercover and discovered the cemetery is ignoring the judge's order. the texas congressman joins us this morning. >> good morning, clayton. >> you don't hear often about congressmen going undercover to get to the bottom of this. what did you do? >> the va said they stopped interfering with the funerals. i went out myself to investigate and met the honor guard in advance of a funeral, and just literally took my jacket off, put sunglasses on and a vfw hat, and feathered right in with the funeral. the va is preventing the honor guard from conducting their ritual. after the obama administration shoved their way into the privacy of our doctor's examining rooms, they've wedged their way into the privacy of a funeral, and a worse, at hero

funerals. the obama administration is attempting to prevent this magnificent ritual the vfw does from being performed at these funerals. it's outrages and i'm working to stop it as quickly as possible. >> the judge has ordered it to go back in place. it looks like the director at this hour still in charge there, am i right? >> right. the director is still in charge and is still interfering with the funerals and preventing the vfw from conducting the rituals and preventing the ladies from saying god bless you. 10 to 20 to 30 houston heroes are buried at the cemetery every day. i told the va to remove her immediately. i'm the chairman of the appropriations subcommittee. i intend to zero out her salary. if she works for the va, she will not be paid in the state of texas. she has to leave immediately.

they have to fix the policy. they have to leave our veterans alone. the privacy of a funeral is absolutely sacred, and that's between the veteran, their family, and their god. >> you said you have evidence that the obama administration has done this. what evidence is that? >> she says the policy of the veterans administration which is the obama administration, she claims that she's carrying out the wishes of the administration in inserting herself in between the family and the veterans. the funeral directors -- >> have you heard from the obama administration on this? >> yes. >> have they confirmed that? >> they claim they're not interfering. that's why i had to go undercover for myself and actually witnessed it. i saw the head of the honor guard come in. he said i just confirmed the director of the cemetery wants us to actually approach the grieving widow as she exits the vehicle sobbing and the obama administration wants us to ask her ma'am, do you really want the ritual said that has the word god in there five times.

he said i'm not doing that. i'm not bothering that woman. it's going to stop. it has to stop immediately so no more american heroes are buried without the benefit of a prayer. >> representative, thanks so much this morning. we appreciate it. coming up here on the show, we've just gotten word that speaker john boehner wants a debt deal in place by 4 p.m. today to avoid spooking the markets, the asian markets and making them stay away from investing in the u.s. we're on the edge of losing our financial reputation, according to stuart varney. he's here. i know that because he's standing about 20 feet from me giving me the spooky eye. the ultimate sacrifice, bute soldier who lost his life in afghanistan but gives his heart to a woman back home. we'll have the story coming up.

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>> good morning, sunday, july 24th, i'm juliet huddy in for alisyn camerota, a "fox news alert," new developments in the norway terror attacks. the suspect claims responsibility, and, he says he acted alone as police try to learn the motivation behind the massacre. >> dave: could there be a breakthrough in the debt ceiling show down, john boehner says he has a plan, treasury secretary tim geithner says, it won't fly. stuart varney, is going to come up and say it is judgment day, and... >> as an elected official you think it is her job to defend the pledge of allegiance and why

is a county clerk facing a grand jury for trying to protect it? thousands of dollars in fines. "fox & friends," hour 4, starts, "fox & friends," hour 4, starts, right now. captioning by, closed captioning services, inc. >> would you like to repeat everything you said... >> dave: hour four, yes! you can tell... >> chris: once in a while i go off and, dave put his microphone in his pocket by accident. that is my good pal, dave briggs and this is juliet huddy, lovely an talented in the yellow dress. >> dave: wait until you hear from stuart varney how important today is. he knows it all. >> you were saying he was wrong, and you are right. >> dave: in two minutes. >> we'll get to that in a second. a show down, i think you will win, too, treasury secretary tim geithner said moments ago he's

sure america will not default before the august 2nd deadline. >> dave: we are hearing speaker boehner wants a plan in place by 4:00 today, pivotal day and peter doocy joins us with the latest and there's a lot to handle, good luck. >> reporter: all right, i'll try. here goes: the treasury secretary also said congress's biggest priority now, needs to be making sure the u.s. does not default on its debt in the next 18 months and something else he said was a warning, really at the white house yesterday, when he told negotiators, from both parties, that today is the day they really need to get the ball rolling with a deal, if the markets open in asia tonight and they think we are going in the wrong direction, that could be bad, japan opens at 8:00 eastern, and hong kong at 10:00 and u.s. futures, start trading at 6:00 and the clock is ticking and as it does a senior congressional aide tells fox the framework both parties are working with is this: more than a trillion dollars in

spending cuts, along with a debt ceiling increase of a dollar amount less and cuts more than they raise and enough to get us into next year and no revenue increases and after that, would come the second tier which would put together a group of people from the house and senate to figure out how to cut more down the line and john boehner said the american people want cut, cap and balance and that died and, quote, now as a result, a two-step process is inevitable like the president and the entire bipartisan, bi camera leadership, defaulting on the full faith and credit of the u.s. is not an option and, the top democrats complained that, quote, their unwillingness to compromise is pushing us to the brink on the default of the full faith and credit of the u.s. and we have run out of time for politics and now is the time for cooperation and let's see what happens. guys? >> dave: the end of the world is upon us. >> chris: peter doocy is live

from washington and stuart varney, host of variance aney a company, we may be on the brink of losing our good financial reap pew tays and we talked a moment ago and you say today could be judgment day. >> it is. this is the first opportunity for the world of money to pass judgment on what we have been up to in the last two days to get resoluti resolution. let me take you through the chronology, by 4:00 p.m. this afternoon, speaker boehner wants a short-term plan on the table, which would allow the debt ceiling to go up, by a trillion, with a trillion dollars worth of spending cuts. 4:00 p.m. eastern, he wants it on the table. two hours later, 6:00 p.m., eastern time, the markets open in east asia. where u.s. stocks are traded. you will get an indication, right there, at 6:00 tonight, as to which way the markets, the money men of the world, think about our debt crisis. then... >> 8:00 a.m. this morning, tim

geithner said we are not doing the short-term... >> yes. right after that you have to watch what the democrats do. specifically, harry reid and president obama. if they say, absolutely no short-term deals, we don't like this, then i think you will probably have a severe negative effect on american stocks trading over there. that is what i think, and the chronology and why i say, today, is the first judgment day about what we're doing with our debt. a big deal. >> dave: not to get too deep into the politics, the never said no to a 120-day extension and may be the opportunity, he allowed himself to say yes to the boehner plan but ultimately we will not have consensus and tell us, are the markets going to crash? we know we will not have agreement on anything. >> i will make no prediction. i would never make any such prediction, no, period but the

judgment will be passed by the markets, if everybody accepts a short-term deal and debt ceiling is raise and borrow a trillion dollars and don't default, the markets could go up and, if we reject that, no deal of any kind, what, 7 days, 8 days left to the deadline, you could then see a severe downside move for the markets. and, this is judgment time, today. >> chris: one place to watch it, tomorrow morning, 9:20 eastern time, on fox business network, varney and company. >> 5:00 eastern, we start on the fox business network setting out the early market action. 5:00 a.m >> chris: you'll be sleeping with a cot in the lobby? bring him food. >> wave at 48th and 6th. he'll be lying there. thanks, the rest of your headlines, a "fox news alert," we told you last hour the police detained several people in oslo, and it was originally believed they were linked to the deadly

norway terrorist spree and we just heard that is not the case. police have questioned them and they have let them all go. and meanwhile, a suspect says he is responsible and admits it, for the attack and he said he was motivated by the desire to spark a revolution in norway and in a journal wrote he may have planned it as early as 2009 and cites timothy mcveigh's name 4 times and he contested the attacks and said he did not break a law and acted alone, at least 92 people including many children were killed in that shooting, and the bombing. another "fox news alert," overnight, 5 people rushed to area hospitals, after a shooting at a casino, near seattle. two of the victims are in critical condition. authorities say it happened early this morning at a nightclub inside the casino, and the shooter was arrested and police are investigating why it went down. texas, and a bloody in to a birthday party in the dallas

suburbs, police say 6 people are dead, after a father opened fire at his 11-year-old son's birthday party. that party was being held inside a roller rink. and witnesses say the father became angry at some point during an argument with his wife, and pulled out a pistol. >> i mean, kids are still wearing skates and, adults not wearing shoes, they were definitely in a hurry to get out of there. >> five people were killed and four wounded and the shooter then turned the weapon on himself and did not survive. the search for two men who went missing in wisconsin chippewa river, their pontoon was crashed into, 50 miles an hour by a boat and the driver of a boat and passenger on another boat were killed and these men were thrown into the water and three people survived. thousands have gone there to be treated but this week walter reed army medical center in washington begins the process of closing its doors, forever.

wednesday, the flags outside the hospital will be retired and the next 6 weeks, patients will be moving to bethesda, maryland where the hospital will apparently merge with the national naval medical center and the pentagon's commission recommended closing walter reeled several years ago because the old buildings are... very old an 6 days of dangerous heat, we could see a break today, dropping into the double digits. the 90s! woo-hoo, maria is in for rick this morning and she has the great news. >> yea, it will be 90 degrees for a high and a lot cooler if you want to call it that but the temperatures are way above average and temperatures, 5 to 10° above average in the northeast and portions of the mid-atlantic and though we are starting to see improvement it will be another unbearably hot day and as we head westbound, portions of the plains, a hot day, 97 in kansas city and 104 in dallas, texas, which will be

the 23rd consecutive day of triple-digit heat and factor in the humidity and it makes things feel hotter. and there are a number of excessive heated warnings across the midwest and the eastern seaboard because of the triple digit index values and as far as precipitation goes, we are already seeing heavy rains for the third time -- friday, der saturday and sunday, across the chicago region and, scattered showers and thunderstorms throughout the day, northeast, guys, because of a cold front that will finally be bringing in a much needed relief from the hot temperatures. >> chris: thanks, sad news, no more -- the video, the guys walking around without their shirts on, sorry to disappoint you. >> dave: a bummer. our pledge of allegiance is under attack in, of all states, the state of texas, an elected defends our flag, you would

think she'd be celebrated. >> chris: natalie nichols, she's facing a possibility of being called to a grand jury for this offense. what did she do, as the meeting unfolded, she recalled the pledge of allegiance had not been read and the minutes were read back and she said that is not right, there was a pledge of allegiance included in those minutes, and it had been excluded and the judge was upset and told her to keep quiet. and, disrupting a public meeting, and, now faces $2,000 in fines and 6 months in jail, and, the possibility that she, if found guilty of this, for disrupting a meeting, a class-b misdemeanor, removing her from office and could lose her job. >> sounds like she's saying bring it on, here's what she said, are we now afraid to be patriotic in america? well, i am not. i will not sit down while people drag our country into a direction that makes me not even recognize it anymore. so, you folks have had a lot to say about this, rogers says, i agree we need to open meeting with a prayer and pledge,

however, the situation is becoming a personality conflict between the county clerk and the county judge. >> dave: and mention the judge, the judge deserves to know her name, judge sterling lacy is the judge responsible for all of this, that has gotten this mess started. you should know that name. >> chris: and, land wrote us and said the constitution says separation of church and state, not separation from god. and england tried to force citizens to join one church, this is the reason for the exception, and, beyond just the idea of religion in this or whatever, it was a matter of accuracy, too. she was saying, that this is how the meeting unfolded and why did you decide to cut that from the meeting minutes that was in there? it is a matter -- >> doesn't like to be called a whiner. and, so, hence, might be facing time in jail. >> chris: let us know what you think. >> coming up next a gang of 6 debt plan praised by democrats, could it be because it will

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either, they don't have the votes, he said and former chief speechwriter for president george w. bush, mark thiessen joins us this morning. nice to see you. >> good morning, how are you. >> chris: doing well, trying to keep up with everything going on and you penned the piece about the gang of 6 which you call the $3 trillion tax hike in your headline and we're hearing about the short-term plan, trying to get that pushed through. and, it all seems to hinge, both your piece that you wrote about the gang of 6 and the short-term deal, it all seems to hinge on these tea party folks. in d.c., the freshmen folks. what do you say about that. >> we wouldn't even be discussing the debt reduction if it wasn't for the tea party, a few months ago, when barack obama first came to office, the first act in -- as president was to pass and almost $1 trillion with interest stimulus bill. and then he passed obamacare which is a multi-trillion dollar government intrusion on the economy and five months ago, barack obama put out a budget that tripled the national debt, raising it by $10 trillion, over

the next ten years. and today both democrats and republicans are talking about not whether to cut the debt, but how to do it and by how much. talking about 1 to $4 trillion in cuts, because of the tea party. and it changes the debate in washington. >> chris: moments ago, timothy geithner seemingly answering political questions or flaming in the political way on fox news sunday with chris wallace, and, basically saying we need to extend the debt ceiling, limit through the election. why would the treasury secretary be concerned about an election, nonpolitical office? >> that is a very good question and seems that barack obama keeps saying go through the next election and said, let's take it to the american people, and fine, let's take it to the american people and why is he afraid of discussing it next year? look, the fact is, i don't know what white house chief of staff bill daly is saying or not but the reality is he's going to sign whatever is put in fronts of him and there is no way the president of the united states is going to allow the country to

default because of an insistence over tax increases, his position up until now, everybody has said that republicans are putting the country at the brink of defaulted and barack obama is saying he will not sign anything unless it includes over a trillion dollars in tax increases. why is he not putting the country on the brink of default with his insistence on raising taxes. >> chris: i'm confused why he would put the country at the risk of default now if you will not sign the short-term debt increase, it seems like the white house is saying and you listen to bill daly saying that and we will not be signing this, and, so let me get it straight you would rather have a default now than wait six months and have to have the chance of a default, six months from now. >> it makes no sense. they will sign a short-term deal, they are bluffing. the president of the united states is not going to let the country default tor have -- they have been warning for months about the cataclysmic consequences of reaching august 2nd about the a bill pass and speaker boehner has a bill with a trillion dollars in spending cuts and matched with a smaller

debt limits increase and put that in front of the president and the democratic senate and they will pass it and they will sign it. >> chris: we'll leave it here but will republicans vote for that in the house. >> i think they will. >> chris: will he get it. >> i think they will. i think they'll pass it, and, i think they'll push -- you take it as a -- pocket modest success and fight for the next day and keep fighting until we get a republican president an majority in the senate that will have real reform. >> chris: we're all over this and twitter is blowing up in my hand as i'm standing here. mark thiessen, great to see you. >> thanks for having me . >> clayton: coming up, a soldier is losing his life in afghanistan and he gives his heart to a woman in the state. his heart and now, the woman and his mother, call each other a family, live, next with the inspiring story, and, also, next in the show, imagine flying on a plane and flames are shooting out of the engine, it happened for a bunch of passengers on one panicked flight, all caught on

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>> dave: welcome back, quick headlines, libya says it is willing to hold more talks with the u.s., and rebel leaders but representatives for muammar qaddafi say the controversial leader is not going anywhere and will not step down or leave the country, nato airstrikes in libya continue. and panic on board a passenger jet, moments after take-off, from an airport in spain, passengers looked out their windows, only to see one of the plane's engines shooting flames, and it took the pilot nearly an hour to land the plane, all 180 people on board are safe. julie juliett. >> thank goodness, all righty. on july 10th, 2009, arn army

ranger was shot and flown to walter reed medical center and declared brain dead and when he passed away her mother respected his wish and donated his organs, including his heart and that heart saved judy's life and joining us is judy and along with ben's mother, jill, thanks for joining us today. we appreciate it. jill, take us back to the day, july 10th, 2009. tell us what happened with your son. >> i was at work, friday afternoon, and, getting ready to go to a concert, actually, in downtown minneapolis, and, about 3:00, i received a call from ben's company commander, to inform me that he had been shot, and they didn't know the full extent of his injuries, at that point, but he was in the hospital and had had surgery, to repair the wound to his leg which is where the bullet entered his body and i was told at that point to sit tight and

wait for the next phone call. >> and you found out that eventually, that your son passed away? >> well, he didn't pass away until 8 days later. i was able to meet him, he was flown through afghanistan and ended up at walter reed and he was at walter reed for four days before he was declared brain dead. >> and as i mentioned judy received his heart, need aid heart transplant and since then we have talked to you before, and you both have been very close, is that right. >> oh, very close. i have a whole new family now. >> what do you mean by that? >> well, i have the heart of an army ranger, and, by proxy, i ended up with his entire family, i'm very close to jill, his mother, his grandparents, mimi barns and, grandfather, john, and, i was already friends with jill's cousin, maria, and her entire family, and, so now i have a whole bunch of new cousins. i have mama jilly, who you are

interviewing today an grand parents and even a great-grandmother, and at 59 that is pretty rare. >> it is a bittersweet story but it is a success story and you are both very, very active in talk about donations. organ donations and tell us why it is so important and, jill, i'll let you tell. >> i have to go back to 1982 when my 11-year-old brother, j. t. was hit by a car and died of brain death, also and my family made a decision to donate his organs and so i carried that story in my heart with me, for 27 years, and, shared it with ben, of course when he was old enough to understand and get his own drivers license and by a funny twist of fate, ben met the same fate that my brother did, and, so organ donation was something that came with my family values. and, when i was asked by the physicians to donate ben's

organs, there was no hesitation from me, and, when i agreed go forth with it i didn't know at that point that they were ben's wishes, but, i honored them, nonetheless, and, in finding out that he wished to donate any of his organs, that were needed, it validated that, and, confirmed it for me, and, really, you know, having... go ahead. >> i was going say, obviously losing your son is a horrible, horrible tragedy but it is wonderful to know you did sustain a life, you know, judy's life as well and we appreciate you guys joining us and definitely, if you want -- any more information, on this, excuse mean, i'll get it out... go to our web site, thanks for joining us, appreciate it. dave and clayton. >> dave: juliett, coming up on the show, they are cracking down on the canines. new rules, regulating dog travel. what is the deal with that! >> chris: and a terrorist about to be transferred from the u.s. back into iraqi custody, should

we let this guy out of our sight? >> dave: debt deal judgment day, as stuart varney called it. ann coulter says congress needs to investigated someone, from the control room, she's here and we'll go to the couch, talking hot topics and the debt ceiling gives us plenty of those, doesn't it? >> i'd like to go back upstairs now, please.

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>> clayton: welcome back, ann coulter said, than it's a busy morning, you better believe it. there's a lot of news to get to and more of the debt ceiling debate, with ann coulter who will join us in moments. >> dave: and senator pat tierj -- pat toomey. >> 11 people were wounded, shots fired at a low rider car show outside of seattle, washington and all the people hurt are all expected to survive. and no one has been arrested and no word on how many shooters were involved and police say the gunfire started after an argument, turned into a fight and they say it may have been gang related, mary jo and blake hadley, allegedly killed by their son and they were brought

in together in twin caskets and their son, tyler is accused of killing them with a hammer and inviting friends over for a party and reportedly took ecstasy before their deaths an earlier on "fox & friends," dr. keith ablow examined the case. >> and, it tends to make people feel a pleasurable feeling, even more connected to others, more empatheticcally connected toward others. >> he was charged as an adult but because he's 17 is not eligible for the dealt penalty. perhaps he couldn't break character. british actor and newly casted spider man villain, is now in trouble for roughing up a female security guard at the comic-con, a convention in san diego and, it is withes say he shoved the guard because she refused to let a member of the posse through the security and it happened on friday, also, ivan's 41th band

perhaps he was upset about that but police gave him a ticket. but don't expect him to pay it. his last words, this is a quote, the u.s. sucks. i won't be back. you can take off, sweetie, we don't need you here. all righty. pet lovers who like to travel, from now on might be stuck taking road trips with your dog, and hanging out the window like this guy with the goggles, no more flying, because are lines are banning certain dog breeds from air travel during the summer months and it affects flat faced dogs like pugs and bull dogs and boxers, the most popular dogs out there and according to a recent study from the u.s. department of transportation, flat-faced dogs were most likely to get nervous and sweat and struggle for air during flights, in the car with a wide-open window, you can see, rover is doing fine. >> clayton: i'm glad to know our tax dollars are used for studies like that. u.s. department of transportation. >> i'm happy to find that out,

being a dog lover, as a matter of fact. >> dave: they don't like it when you call them "flat faced dogs." maria molina is in the heat. >> good morning, dave and everyone and it a warm morning already here in new york city. current heat index values already in the 90s and that is the case across much of the country, weiss look at our maps, and, 87 in new york and 83 in dallas and the heat index values with the humidity are way up there, like we said, the 90s in new york city and other areas, further off to the west an relatively warm, also -- and relatively warm and otherwise, throughout the day, expect the warm temperatures to continue and because of the high heat index values in the 90s and, well into the 100s, over areas, we see a warm-up we have excessive heat warnings over many areas across the midwest and eastern portions of the u.s., because of a combination

of hot temperatures and a lot of humidity, but we have relief in store for us, at least through the north east and upper midwest with a cold front sweeping through and as far as high temperatures, to kick off the work week in new york, in the the lower 80s. much better. >> thanks, maria. >> chri >> clayton: let's talk about the crazy news, let's bring in ann coulter, the author of "demonic". "the new york times" best-selling author. >> i love the title of this. >> clayton: the latest news, speaker boehner saying, there will be a two tiered plan. that is official and he says, it is a priority and we have to do it but he's not getting any support from democrats. >> right. manifestly not and he was totally double krors -- double-crossed by obama, he was asserting tax cuts, tax cuts and this week, he says, no, i need something like 600 billion in

tax hikes. which he got, by way, from the gang of 6, the republicans should blame the 3 in the gang of 6 and all americans, should blame the gang of 6 and obama changed how much he wants taxes to go up and boehner already got republicans to agree to some tax hikes and now he suddenly introduces new $600 billion in tax hikes and gives the press conference blaming the republicans for changing, moving the goal post? a total lie. and i hope the two tiered deal goes back to me mcdonnell deal because as i have said, i love the mcdonnell deal. >> dave: we'll get to that in a second. the speaker moments ago on fox news sunday. >> the house has done its work, we passed the budget and passed the plan. we have passed... >> but the -- >> cut, cap and balance and not one time in the whole process have senate democrats or the white house, put a budget out there or even a plan out there. the conversation, i was having with the president, in case the senate didn't pass cut, cap and

balance, there is never any plan from the white house. the whole plan came from us. we laid out the framework, and, and at some point, they've got to lay their cards on the table. >> dave: cut, cap and balance is tabled and the president will not sign it. does john boehner, the speaker, have the votes in the house, and will the democrats vote for the two tier in the short-term extension. >> oddly enough i think they will and by the way, what he said is true and totally amazing. we have gotten no budgets, no budget cuts from the democrats. and, what is obama's job in this? >> dave: will he approve the plan. >> i think he will, out of a source of pride, how enthusiastic the democrats were in congress about that, it does require they put -- it puts responsibilities oddly enough on the president of the united states, to come up with both raising the debt ceiling and the budget cuts. as opposed to republicans in one branch, one half of one branch of government and i'm thinking that is not good for obama, as

he knows, which is why he said don't call my bluff and democrats in congress are no more eager to give their budget cuts than obama is and might well vote for it. >> let's hear tim geithner, also on fox news sunday as well, talking about boehner and obama, and let's listen: >> nothing is done until everything is done and at that point, we are getting closer but we aren't quite done yet and there is still a chance that the speak -- ask the speaker of course, but there is a chance it may prove the best way to get the votes, the president of the united states believes the best thing to do for the economy is to put in place now a comprehensive balance set of savings, tax reform, that can demonstrate to the world we can get our fiscal house in order and if we do that now, we can get congress back to business of trying to figure out how to make the economy stronger in the short-term and getting more americans back to work. >> clayton: and the bottom line, we don't know that anyone will get to the second tier. right? so, we're going to -- is it a win for democrats? they are getting their short-term debt increase, and

don't have to cut any spending right now. >> well, just... that from geithner, there, there is just -- it is disingenuous and sounds reasonable, we'll do some of both and cut spending and raise taxes and they'll never cut spending and exactly as you say, the gang of 6 deal, for example, they have specific tax hikes, real numbers for the tax hikes, and when it comes to budget cuts, cutting spending that is put off to the future, and future congresses will have to come up with it. no, come up with it now. it sounds so reasonable and they are just lying. >> i like the way she says that. >> dave: tell us how you really feel. thanks for stick around, the "after the show" show, and the internet show at 10:05. if you are sticking around... >> that was very noncommittedal, ann. thank you is not an answer. >> dave: the book is "demonic", her 8th best-seller. >> thank you.

>> clayton: thanks, ann, coming up our debt dealing coverage continues, which side will say uncle first, either side with their arms twisted behind their back, senator pat tioomey weigh in live. >> and size matters. what is the perfect size for you, family size we're talking about, our next guest helps you figure out how many kids are right for you. is it time to have babies? maybe you should have a baby, maybe you shouldn't have a baby, why? why not? coming up. ♪ ♪ love and marriage ♪ is an institute... [ male annocer ] things seem better with travelocity's best price guarantee.

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and this book brings you into reality and calls you down and you think, maybe now is not the time. >> i try to make the case for family size being important and a lot of people said to me over the years, it doesn't matter how many children you have, it matters how good a parent you are and how much money you have and i disagree, and i say this is a very important decision and the main reason is because, on average, a lot of researchers have said that marital satisfaction tends to decrease, with each child. and that is logical, too, because, parents will very often put everything into the children and take it away from the marriage and their relationship, and, that is why i say to people, this is a parenting book about marriage, that i wrote on behalf of children, because there is nothing more important for the child than to have that strong relationship between the parents. >> clayton: i think it would

become easier, my son's first birthday is today and we are running around like chickens with our heads cut off, making sure we have this, this, this... >> one! >> clayton: and he will not remember and you put stress on the family and there are questions, you say, you need to ask about what it means to determine the family size, so, let's start with that one. how do you feel psychologically and physically, how is your marriage doing? and for those with children, do you like parenting? important questions. >> right. and i have over 90 questions, self-test questions in the book because i want the book to help couples make the decision, themselves, people say to me, well, what is the perfect family size? and there is no united states perfect family size. i want couples to be able to get there. how do they get there? the individual questions, how do you feel, personally, physically, psychologically, the couple questions, how is your marriage doing, the economy has big problems, so, how are you doing, financially, the third type of question, for those individuals like yourself,

already have one child, is, there are two parts to it. how do you like parenting and how do you think you are doing? because you could say, i'm going to do a good job because we do a good job at whatever we take on but, it may not be -- you may not be thrilled with it and may want to get back to more travel and things and i say, don't have a child from any external pressure or any reason, have a child from internal desire. >> and, exactly, and not doing it because you think having a child will bring you closer together, especially if things are rocky. that never seems to work. according to your research. >> yes, never recommend to a couple, if they have marital problems. >> good book. >> clayton: a lot of great reasons and questions, creating your perfect family size, the name of the book, dr. alan singer. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> coming up the new deal, on -- debt deal breaking every minute and speaker john boehner wants the deal by 4:00 p.m. an tim geithner says the plan will not work, what will it take to reach

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>> clayton: welcome back to fox and friends, a quick check our headlines, no response from defense secretary leon panetta on a plan to transfer a high level iraqi detainee from the u.s. back to iraq. ali moussa daqduq is linked to a brazen attack in o- that killed four american -- '07 this killed four american soldiers and, several senators pleading with him to call they've transfer altogether. and, arnold schwarzenegger now making sure his estranged wife,

maria shriver will receive spousal support and last week he signed papers denying that and, reportedly didn't read the documents carefully, he said. and, never intended to deny her money. dave? >> dave: less than an hour ago, white house chief of staff, bill daly saying short-term debt deal will not fly, and you just heard from treasury secretary tim geithner, also, announcing that speaker john boehner's two tiered plan will not pass congress, either. so, are we close to a deal, at all? joining us now, pennsylvania senator pat toomey, we appreciate you being with us this morning, this is incredibly important day for our country. i know you like the cut, cap and balance but if we could table that as the senate did for a moment and talk about what tim geithner says, that a short-term deal does not have the votes? do you agree in the house or the senate? >> i think that is not clear yet. and i think speaker boehner made

it clear that he is trying to arrange a two-step process that will be consistent with cut, cap and balance. so, i think before we pronounce that, you know, impossible, we ought to give him a chance to see what we can come up with. >> dave: he's adamant this is not the mcdonnell-reid plan we have heard about in the senate but it seems to look like a duck and quack like a duck. how is it different? >> we don't know yet but the fact is the speaker understands, there is only one plan that passed the house, a bipartisan vote, and, would raise the debt limit by the full amount the president asked for and most importantly put our country on path to a balanced budget and that is the cut, cap and balance plan, the plan the american people support and passed the house and if the president weren't so passionately opposed to a balanced budget we could have it enacted and so i think a plan consistent with those principles would have a chance to pass, and i think that is what speaker boehner is striving to do. >> dave: i know that is the plan

you and your colleagues in the senate approve. why do you think the democrats chose to table it as opposed to debating, at least, the matter. >> this is interesting, they refused to have a discussion about it. we urged them, let it come on the senate floor, you don't support it. maybe up through the process of debate an amendment we could reach an agreement. have a bipartisan bill, like they passed in the house. but, our senate colleagues refuse to even consider it. now, this is starting to be a pattern, they refuse to put a budget on the senate floor, i mean, the majority leader of the senate brazenly announced he'd violate the law and not produce a budget for a second consecutive year and we produced the budget and i introduced a budget which had almost every republican's support and the house passed the budget with republican votes, the house passed the bill, to raise the debt crypt increase, that had democrat votes and, the president keeps moving the goal post and the democrats refuse to even have a debate about that. this is very irresponsible. on the part of my democratic colleagues and is really way

pastime they join the process. >> dave: getting back now to the likelihood of john boehner announcing the two tiered stimulator on involving a short-term increase. the president, nancy pelosi, harry reid all say it's not good for the country. to have a short-term, because they say we need to take it past the 2012 elections, and in terms of raising or debt ceiling, in your opinion, is that because of politics, or is that to calm the markets. >> it is politics, they don't want to confront the electorate, having reminded them they want to raise the debt so much without cutting spending. it's the same president who gave us a massive stimulus bill and health care takeover and, huge increase in ordinary spending and bailouts and until recently insisted we raise the debt limit with no changes in policy and no conditions. well the american people completely disagree with this approach an understand we need to cut spending.

that is what we'll keep fighting for, anything else is just going to be devastating for our economy. and our future, we can't do that. >> dave: i want to share the results of a nonscientific poll on washingtonpost.com and they asked who is to blame for the debt talks collapsing over the weekend and most of the respondents and i was shocked said eric cantor, not john boehner or the president. are you concerned, if in fact we don't raise the debt ceiling, who wins the battle of popular opinion here. >> i think now we have to be focused on doing what is right for our economy and for our economy and what that means is, responsible cuts in spending and a path to a balanced budget and debt limit increase provided we change the course we're on. i'll let the political chips fall where they fall and we have to do the right thing for america. >> dave: senators, appreciate you coming on with us this morning. for "fox & friends" in two minutes. the stronger the rapids, the more we loved it.

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