you watching. updates when you want them go to our website, foxnews.com. and meanwhile, our sunday night is just getting started. huckabee starts now. stay tuned. have a good week! >> tonight on huckabee, phone numbers keep rising and so does the scrutiny. michele bachmann's doctors say she can deal with the headaches, can she handle the mainstream media. >> we knew it would be like this, but it's worth it. >> the republican presidential candidate goes one-on-one with the governor and our closest ally in the middle east. >> and the one country where you have wall to wall americans-- >> under constant threat from neighbors. >> this is the country of size of new jersey, can you imagine rockets pounding new jersey city. >> do israelis feel like we have their back? president benjamin netanyahu with a huckabee exclusive.

plus, they may be small in stature, but big on talent. back by popular demand. the sleepy band banjo boys. ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applause]. [applause]. >> thank you, thank you very much. great audience. welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. well, some nut group called freedom from religion has their antenna up because the governor of texas is calling for a day of prayer. now, even though taxpayers aren't paying for any of it, this group is suing to stop it. look, it's one thing to express some cynicism as to whether the timing for a highly public publicized prayer event that the governor wants to run for president. i can't understand why people who don't believe in god are so afraid of it. and saying that prayer is a

meaningless and worthless exercise in futility. that'd keep them busy doing something harmless, instead of passing out literature and screaming for pedestrians to repent. let me say that i plan to really mess them up. i'm going to pray for them. they need the prayers, and i need the practice. [laughter] >> well, another story this week, gave me a real headache, some disgruntled former staffers of michele bachmann tried to create a story out of the fact that she has occasional hi occasional migraine headaches and takes medication for them. boy, that's a big story. that's the nonsense that one has to endure to run for president, as i can attest. it fries my bacon to think that the worst criticism of michele bachmann is that she gets headaches. good grief, the presidency is a headache. if you watch her in campaign mode you see a person of unfailing energy. and she hardly seems incapacitated physically or

intellectually. i get so tired of the smug, snippy, self-appointed saints of journalism demanding to see the medical records of a female presidential candidate because some staffer who couldn't keep up with her decide today whine that she has headaches. it sounds to me losing that kind of a staff member is getting rid of at least one headache. the only people i have less use for, someone who has their employers of their boss being human is the gum shoe wannabe investigate reporter, who smells himself. brian rossen, leapt on to the stage to demand that he answers the questions and upset when some of the staffers, treated him like the inconsiderate jerk, that he can be. having been on the end of his brand of reporting, i realize

he's probably the less cause of a headache for michele bachmann and more of a pain in the other end of one's anatomy. look, reporters have a right to ask questions, but don't have a right to demand an answer and certainly not to invade a candidate's physical space or refuse to accept no for an answer. no candidate is required to load a gun pointed at his or her own head. reporters are to write reporters not to force a candidate to give them fodder for it. that's my view and i welcome yours, contact me me at meekmikehuckabee.com. and michele bachmann joins me from iowa spending a lot of time lately and i can't imagine why she would be doing that. congresswoman, thank you for joining me. i want to talk about some of the things, i don't want to talk about headaches, but i want to talk about the fact that the president almost acts as if they have a divine right to demand of you out of your

cell and your time, the frustration of dealing with the fact that you have a campaign schedule and can't always stop and answer 15 or 20 minutes of somebody's questions. >> well, governor, if anyone would understand this, you would understand it. in your introduction you stated perfectly what the situation was. we knew it would be like this when we get involved in in presidential race, but it's worth it. because what we've been seeing all across iowa, south carolina and new hampshire is the devastation that people feel right now. they feel like washington isn't listening to them. they're telling me over and over again, michelle, hold tough. don't raise the debt ceiling. and yet, they see president obama wanting to go forward with trillions of more debt. that's what people want to talk about. they don't want to talk about the side issues and your introduction was just spot on. >> mike: let's roll a little bit of sound from the president yesterday. i want to get your reaction to it because he didn't give you any credit by name for being one of those people not

wanting to raise the debt ceiling, but he had some pretty stern words for what it might mean. let's take a listen. >> can you assure the american people that they will get their social security checks on august 3rd? and if not, who is to blame? >> if congress and in particular, the house republicans are not willing to make sure that we avoid default, then i think it's fair to say that they would have to take responsibility for whatever problems arise in those payments. because let me repeat, you know, i'm not interested in i think if -- finger pointing and i'm not interested in blame. >> mike: i find it interesting, congresswoman, he said he's not interested in finger pointing and blame and spent 30 meant finger pointing and blaming republicans.

is there any condition under which you would raise the debt ceiling? >> mike, i put forward together a bill together with congressman steve king and my colleague goldberg, let's not make this debt ceiling based. it's political. let's pay the interest on the date so there is no question of default. sufficient revenues are coming into the treasury to pay the interest, let's pay it and take it off the table and stop scaring people about default and second, let's make sure our brave military men and women are getting paid so they're not political pawns. we have introduced that bill and all the president has to do is get behind that bill. if you can take the issues off the table. what the president doesn't want to deal with is this, he doesn't want to deal with the spending priorities. he hasn't offered a plan. that's amazing, here we are coming up to august 2nd. the president has no plan other than increasing the spending, increasing the taxes, and debt burden. 8 trillion in debt.

if the president has his way it will been 15 trillion dollar in debt. and now under this president, and in just five years, we have now doubled that amount of debt? we can't do this anymore. we can't quick the can down the road, we have to solve the problem today. >> mike: congresswoman. >> and people today are saying, stop, stop raising the debt ceiling. >> mike: right, but you know that if the government does in fact shut down or there is a default, and the credit rating is downgraded, the house republicans specifically are going to be blamed by the president annal'-- and how will you get away from the accusations that you and your colleagues have put america's financial situation in dire straits? >> well, the fact is we've offered a plan and the president hasn't. the plan i offered, again, would take this very simple issue of defaulting on the

debt off the table. the interest on the debt is actually a relatively small amount of money, compared to all the revenues that come into the treasury. we can make sure, without a doubt. this afternoon, if we want to, that we don't default on our debt. and that's like, if you have a payment on your car, you have to at minimum pay the interest on the car or if you have a house payment, at minimum you pay the interest, even if you can't afford the principal. that's the same with the u.s. government. pay the interest on the debt, which is what my bill does, and then we don't have that problem and then you have a prioritize spending. that's what the president is saying no to. he doesn't want to cut the spending, but the people in the country want us to cut spending. >> congresswoman stay with us, we are going to be back with more, with congresswoman michele bachmann when we return. [applause]. find a busess backed by the superguarantee®? only& suonline.s®. on your phone.

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to ask about what happens if in fact the united states does not get some type of deal done on the debt ceiling, interest rates could go up, probably will. what then can congress do to counter act that, that they haven't already done? >> well, again, we need to pay off the interest on the debt. i honestly don't believe that the president and the congress are going to allow us to go into default. this is never happened before. it should not happen now. we have to deal with this interest on the debt. the problem is, the president is insisting on increasing taxes and continuing the same run away spending and we just can't do that. so, he's also got to get to reality. i've invited the president to come with me and travel with me and talk to the people that i'm talking to in iowa and south carolina, new hampshire and that's not a gimmick. this is really, honestly, a blessing. every day when i'm out here in iowa.

>> mike: you be sure and let me know if he takes up on the offer to travel with you on iowa, south carolina. >> i'd invite you, too, governor. >> i'd be willing, but i don't think that the president would. >> he should. >> mike: one of the questions raised do you have executive experience ready to put you into the white house? that was one of the criticisms and i think it's obvious that the president obama having not had executive experience it's hindered his ability to fully comprehend the office and that's going to be raised of you not having been a governor or one of the other positions, the mayor. how do you respond to that when you're asked? and i'm sure you are. >> well, i think when it came to president obama, the issue wasn't as much his lack of experience, more was the fact that he was simply wrong on the issues. that's not true for me. i have demonstrated leadership in washington d.c., and the time that i've been in office, speaker pelosi held the gavel in the house of representatives and now the

democrats have held for two years, held every level of power. i did everything within my power to fight their agenda. i fought even my own party on the 700 billion dollar bailout. i fought against the trillion dollar stimulus. i fought against the 1.5 trillion dollar deficits. i have been the fighter against obama care. that's what the leadership that i brought to washington and that's what we need in a president. someone who has a titanium spine and that's what i brought to the fight and i'll continue to bring that to the house. >> mike: a lot of the late polls show that people are a little unhappy with the tea party, even though the tea party was instrumental in the elections, now there's polling information that says that some people say the tea party is just so hard line, it's all or nothing mindset. is that possibly going to hurt you? you've been so closely identified with the tea party people across the country. >> well, remember, what the tea party is, it's not a

political party. it's a set of ideas and it's this, it's that we believe that we're taxed enough already, we think the government should not spend more money than what it takes in and we believe that the government should follow the constitution. that's a pretty mainstream agenda. and he think that, the media has been trying to falsely malign the tea party, but all the tea party is trying to do is bring fiscal sanity to washington. because what we have to recognize is that the music is going to stop. the nation is going into decline if we don't change our ways. we know how greece is turning out. we don't want america to turn out the way that greece is, so we have to make a decision today because the problems are today. they aren't five years from now. that's the good thing about the tea party, they're trying to bring this issue of the problems being about today and use some common sense and solve them. >> mike: congresswoman michele bachmann. thank you very much. i know it's a tough schedule and we appreciate you squeezing us in. good luck out there on a very

hot day in iowa. >> you're always the best, thank you, governor. >> mike: well, our country has a great friendship with israel. but if anything should threaten our relationship with one of our strongest allies, it could threaten our national security as well. coming up in an exclusive interview i talk to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu about the importance of our bond. [applause].

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in washington while speaking to a joint session of congress. israel's leader made his case why any peace agreement between israel and palestinians should not include a return to the borders that existed before the 1967 war. but does he feel our full support? earlier this week, i traveled to the prime minister's residence in jerusalem for a wide ranging exclusive interview. why does israel matter to the typical american family? what difference does it make? >> he think most americans see the story of israel dids the strug of of mankind. humanity to lift itself up to a better people. this is the people, jewish people left for dead, thrown out of our land, and thrown into exile into programs, massacre, so on the holocaust,

we come back from the dead to rebuild our ancient life, life in our ancient homeland and build an enterprising economy. it's sort of tells people there's hope, there's hope, a free people with enough guts, with enough courage. there's hope for everyone and i think americans instantaneously identify with that. it's a future of freedom that all americans and instantaneously understand and appreciate. i think that's the bond, the bond of value and hope, of courage and hope, freedom and the future. often side that israel and the united states have not an organizational, but an organic relationship. are there some ways in which you think that there are cultural, military, financial,

political, historical connections and unique relationships that you see, as you think about the relationship between the u.s. and israel? >> well, you have-- it's very, it's very practical, but also, very idealistic. practical that you are you and we are us, and view each other and cooperate that way. a high-tech economy, a free enterprise democracy that cherishes, and practical implications because the west, when the united states is under attack here and the one reliable place is israel. we have he an always been pro america, we'll all the be pro america, this is the one country where you have wall to wall pro americans, there's no question about that. through changing government, through changing presidents it doesn't make any difference, we're all, you know, we're there for you and we feel

you're there for us. but at the same time, there's something deeper, because america was a society built on an idea. you know, that the city on the hill where this new, this new birth of freedom that lincoln talked about. the city on the hill. well, you're on that hill and this is that city, jerusalem. so, welcome to jerusalem and i hope all your viewers come here, too. if you haven't been here, you should come. >> mike: i would agree with that. i want to ask you about the incredible reaction that you had at the joint session of congress, and overall from the american people, in your most recent u.s. visit. >> israel has no better friend than america and america has no better friend than israel. [applaus [applause]. were you even surprised at the extraordinary accolades that

you got from congress? i mean, it was, i think, 29 standing ovations, i've never gotten anything like that, mr. president, so i was impressed. >> come to the-- >> i don't think i would get that reception. >> i was heartened by it. i think a day before that, my wife and i went for a walk, the potomac park and they actually let me out, my security is tough, your security is tough, but a little more understanding. even though i respect our guys because they really have a mission to protect the prime minister. they let me out. and now we're walking in potomac park and going through, you know the tremendous memorial there you have for, for lincoln and jefferson and roosevelt and the korean war memorial, all very moving, but they're american and i noticed that,

as i walked, quite a few of them recognized me and i saw their reaction, you know. so i-- in that sense, the congressmen and senators, as you all know, are representatives of the american people. and i felt that that they represented something very broad. not support for me personally, but support for israel, for what it represents, i think that's very deep in the united states and i think it's a very important element in our national well-being, the connection with america is of supreme importance to us. >> mike: july 26th there's going to be debate at the united nations regarding palestine, the possibility of an independent state. to a lot of us, that seems a surprise. i want to ask, does this seem

like a threatening move to israel, to start watching the arab league push for this in a september vote looming? >> i think the hope for peace is for a negotiated peace, know the to be many he posed u.n. resolution. the u.n. can decide that the earth was flat. the u.n. can decide that the unis is flat and rotates around the earth. they can decide anything and they have. they can decide anything they want. what really decides the future is what happens here between us and between-- and to get peace between us and the palestinians, we need to negotiate peace. i think to the extent that one-sided anti-israel resolutions are frontloaded in the u.n., that actually pushes peace back and tells the palestinians you don't even have to try, you don't have to negotiate, you'll always get the approval of a large number of countries so you really don't have to make

concessions, that you have make, in order to make peace because typically the conversation is what are the concessions that israel makes? to get peace you need concessions from both sides. and one-sided u.n. resolution would actually harden palestinian positions and there by push peace away. you know, at the end, at the end of the day, the beginning of a real day of peace, peace has to be negotiated. is the united states giving you assurances that they will do whatever it takes to block any actual action in september? >> well, they can't, i think, realistically block a general assembly vote. that's just-- >> but in the security council. the security council, i think it's very likely that the u.s. will. >> mike: likely, but not-- i'm trying to be a diplomate. >> mike: you're a good one. >> i'll be surprised if something passes through the u.n. security council and i'm not just speaking hypothetical

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>> from america's news headquarters, i'm harris falkner, a lot of talk, but an august 2nd deadline nine days away. and president obama meeting tonight with senate majority leader harry reid and nancy pelosi. lasting m working on a fallback plan that would cut spending by the same reid's plan through 2012 with no new taxes and meanwhile, house speaker j speaker john boehner said he wanted an outline, that didn't happen. ap global markets opening an hour ago. u.s. stock futures ahead of our opening bell monday down triple digits.

i'm harris falkner, now back to huckabee, for the the headlines when you want them. foxnews.com. foxnews.com. >> . >> mike: june 29th, 2009 the u.n. resolution that says indigenous people have a straight to strengthen culture and traditions. a lot of israelis say they could speak to israel. we're indigenous people, 4,000 years when abraham came here and the sons of jacob, one called benjamin walked around-- it's only been 3800 years, we're pretty indigenous. >> mike: that definition, israel should be in a pretty good position. is it a useful tool that israel has nationally and globally, to be able to point to the u.n.'s own rules and resolutions to say, if you go by that definition, israel has a right not only to exist, but

to have some level of absolute security? >> look, i think the proof of this pudding is in the eating and what they're doing is, they're, you know, they're not really recognizing these principles often when it comes to israel. there's a, i call it a-- i call it a triple standard, you know, there's sort of an acceptable double standard in international relations, you have one standard for the dictatorships and the one standard for the democracy. when it comes to israel there's a triple standard because there's a third standard for the democracy called israel. you never expect other democracies to accept what israel has gone through. i mean, we've had-- can you imagine another democracy with 12,000 rockets pounded on the city and there has to be, to take special care, special caution not to

take action against the offending enemy's rocketeers? this is a country half the size of belgium. the size of new jersey. can you imagine what your viewers in new jersey, 12,000 rockets pounding new jersey cities, trenton, you know? and where was frank sinatra born. >> mike: hoboken. >> hoboken. >> mike: glad i know that by the way. >> i knew that, that was a trick question. but okay, all of these cities are pummelled by rockets. what do you think the people of new jersey would say, that they'd do anything, do everything. >> mike: and it wouldn't take 12,000 rockets. mr. president. i've looked at the extraordinary cache of rockets stashed behind the police station, i've often said it wouldn't take several thousand, it would only take one and american people

demanding something be done. >> not only the americans, and i'd say the same is true for any european countries and true of russia and china and so israel is held to this triple standard. >> mike: why is it so different? it seems very illogical that israel would be asked to sit back and take rockets and united states and no other nation would tolerate that. >> i think a lot of people say that, you know, they recognize israel and recognize israel's right to exist, but they don't give israel, they don't recognize israel's right to defend itself, and that is where we begin to see these, you know, this criticism of israel. and i think that-- i think it's unwarranted and unfair. where does that come from? i can give you explanation, i can give you the explanations, from the numbers of, numbers of arab countries, although something paradoxical is

happening because a lot of the arab governments really want israel to be able to defend itse itself against the rising tide against them, too. i can give you explanations of oil, but i think there's a deeper explanation, because, i've often asked myself this question, it's so obvious that israel is being attacked by terrorists, who are terrorizing, firing rockets into the cities, calling for its annihilation. turn peace into shreds and yet, israel is the one accused when it takes action that any country would take to defend itself. and i think that this has partly to do, also, with some historic historical-- from historical habit, you know? because for thousands of years the jewish people didn't have a state. and we were absolutely helpless. we were the perfect victim. jews were slaughtered,

massacred. they were pitied. and we could do no wrong because we couldn't do anything. now, we have a state from which we have to defend ourselves. and then you have a state. you have an army. you have to consider when to stop and attack on your borders. you take action, you know, it's messier. it was a cleaner, perfect world when the jew was a perfect victim. well, we don't want to be the perfect victim. we don't want to be perfectly dead. we take action and i think that there is a -- there is a historical time in which nations that used to look at jews in that way, as sort of the helpless object, have to adjust to the idea that we're no different from them. that they want to live just the way they do and therefore we have to take actions to protect ourselves as they did. and i think we'll be -- we'll be living in a good world when

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>> we know we could probably say they have over four tons, four metric tons of -- which means about 4500 kilos of enriched uranium and making the stuff for nuclear weapons and they've developed this massive program and the ballistic missiles to carry them. and carry, the developing ballistic missiles that ultimately reach the united states to carry-- you know what they're there for, everybody does. you know, 50 years ago when i first spoke about this, and danger, i spoke before the u.s. congress, and just been elected for the first time as prime minister. i said the greatest threat facing humanity was the arming of iran with nuclear weapons and eyebrows were raised,

there was great support, not only among the senators and congressmen, but the leaders understand, i think the world understands that iran is getting closer and closer and closer to nuclear weapons. i think this will have devastating consequences for everyone. first of all, for the middle east and for the arab regime, but of course others. i think if iran has nuclear weapons then the arab spring would turn into an iranian winter, i'm convinced of that. and so, so much is at stake. the security of my country, the future of the middle east, the control of the world's oil supplies and the direction of where the arab world goes, does it go to democracy as we want or does it go to iranian style dictatorship? a lot of that will be determined by the acquisition of, or the development of

nuclear weapons by iran, but the worst thing is, this is a terrorist regime, sworn to anilelation, killing americans, helping to kill americans, fossstering terror worldwide and to have iran with nuclear weapons the specter of nuclear terrorism to become really, real. >> it would be an immediate threat to israel. >> to you, too. >> mike: a lot of people in the united states don't understand how it could be. i think you've made it clear in the past, you have no intention to let iran get to that point. would they be a part of that to ensure that iran doesn't get to that point. >> the u.s. is determined to prevent iran from getting nuclear weapons, president obama says, and i think that's the right policy. there have been strong sanctions, the president led in the united nations security

council and even stronger sanctions were adopted by the u.s. itself. now, these have taken a bite out of the iranian economy and that's important, but i think that the only thing that will get iran to actually stop the program is a combinations of strong sanctions even stronger ones and knowledge that the sanks fail, then the international community is prepared to take credible military action. the combination of the two that will make the sanctions work and paradoxically will make the military option unnecessary. >> mike: if israel feels it has to act immediately and unilaterally, are you prepared to do that, even without the blessing and support of other middle east neighbors and the u.s.? >> iran is a threat to everyone, et cetera a threat to israel and the arab world

and united states and to many others, and i think this is an international threat that requires an international solution. the right solution? very strong sanctions backed up by the kind of clarity that says that look, we're prepared, we're determined to prevent you from getting nuclear weapons and we'll take whatever action is necessary. that's what the president, president obama has said and i think that's the right approach. >> in the middle east there's been a lot of upheaval this year in libya, egypt, syria, egypt. is israel in a safer place or more vulnerable because of what has been perceived as the shaekup. some think towards freedom, but it hasn't turned out quite that way yet. >> you're right. it depends what will happen. it will be in a safer place if it moves toward genuine democracy. it will be in a less safe place if it moves to a uranium style theocracy.

look what happened in lebanon. lebanon five, six years ago, revolution, millions poured into the streets of beirut, a million people actually, it's like 20 million egyptians, huge numbers. and they were demonstrating for free lebanon. free democratic progressive lebanon. five years later, hezbollah, iran's proxy and iran control lebanon. so that hope was dashed and the question, where does the rest of the arab country go to. where does iran go to, a non-arab country and started in tunisia, the ayatollah's regime stole the election, and millions walked into the streets and they were butchered quickly and silenced. there is a palpable yearning

in the arab world and in the islamic world, in the middle east for this new beginning. i think most people, left to their own devices, you know, they'd opt for a genuine democracy, but they're not left to their own devices, the people with the guns and the people with the superior organization, they deprive them of their freedoms as they did in lebanon, as they did in iran. you know, we'd like to, i think we all would like to see a democracy. if democracy triumphs, we'll have peace because in a genuine democracy there's a public will. most people don't want their sons and daughters to go to battlefields, to die from bombardments, they don't want war, don't typically initiate wars, democracies. if we have peace, a genuine democracy we will have genuine peace, but the jury is out where this thing is going. let's hope it goes towards the right direction and let's work as best as we can to make it

go the right direction. [applaus [applause] >> make sure to tune in next week for more of my exclusive interview with benjamin netanyahu. first, we got so much positive reaction to the sleepy land banjo boys last week, we decided to bring them back and this time i'm going to be joining them. stay with us.

(applause) >> a lot of people didn't believe me when i said a young trio of young brothers from new jersey could play blue grass with the best of them. but seeing and hearing is believing and you loved them so much that well, we decided to bring them back for an encore. please welcome nine-year-old johnnie, 12-year-old robe and 14-year-old tommy, the sleepy

man banjo boys, guys, welcome back. [applause] >> you know, this is the first time ever we've had such a demand for musical guests that we brought them back the very next week. >> thanks. >> mike: so, tommy, did your friend watch you on tv last week. >> they did. >> mike: they're still your friends. >> yes. >> mike: good. johnnie, how heavy is that banjo. >> it's crazy. >> mike: it's heavier than you, i think it weighs more than you do. >> probably. >> mike: probably. and robe, are you ready to play with us. >> i am. >> mike: i'm getting ready to play with you, i'm bummed about, a great old blue grass, earl scruggs. ready? ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ (applause) >> sleepy man bango boys and don't forget to get their cd. we'll be back next week and we'll have a great show, but one more piece of the sleepy man banjo boys, let's hit it,

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