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sharpton? >> i don't think anybody does. he is the king of quid pro, quo. >> i'm jon scott. mike emanuel has the latest developments in a moment. plus we get answers when i talk exclusively to congressman david dreier about why he introduced a carbon copy of the harry reid bill to the bill today. also the co-aah tore of cut, cap and balance. and charlie gasparino.
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we are live from new york in a special moment as we watch the unfolding of the debt crisis deal. the deficits presence between campaigning and governing is simple. you frame the entire message. you drive the points that you think are important. and you ignore things that you either don't care about or that, frankly, you don't understand. if the result of the campaign is that you are elected then you have to shift gears to governing mode and that is as big a shift as killing a deer in the woods and then having to cook it in the kitchen. the tools that you use to kill the deer are different than the ones you use to cook it and serve it. or at least they better be. we have folks that successfully campaigned but don't seem to have made the transition from the woods to the kitchen. in a campaign there is no compromise or negotiation. no recognitioning of the possibility that some of the other candidates might actually have ideas that are better or
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at least more palatable than you own. it would be you with whic suico open a campaign by saying i think my opponents is plan is good. governing is like the championship game where everyone is trying to win and no one wants to lose. no one holds one of those offices because he was humble and self-less. there is a room full of ego and the air is still with those who need to validate that what they said in the campaign is real. the ones who succeed understand they will lose some battles but have to learn to fight another day. because if they use all their water on one fire they have no water left for the next fire. the debt ceiling crisis is some what a crisis because some of the players never left the woods and came to the kitchen. they are still shooting when they ought to be cooking.
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some are in congress and the elmer fud of the drama is president obama who knows how to campaign but has shown a lack of understanding of how to actually govern. he has put fuel on the fire when it needed water and instead of calmly and quietly negotiating a solution held bravado and meaningless press conferences to blame everybody but himself. if these are the adults i say let's turn the kitchen over to the kids. they couldn't make a bigger mess of it than has already been made. that is my view. i welcome yours. contact me at mike huckabee @ fox news .com. what is the latest you are hearing from democrats on capitol hill? >> governor, good evening. nancy pelosi the house democratic leader told reporters jif camera the clock is ticking and she looked
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serious and somber after a meeting late afterthe noon at the white house and was asked if she was unhappy and she said she is already unhappy with the eye idea of $1.2 trillion this cuts which is part of whatever deal is finally locked in on in the coming hours or perhaps days. meanwhile, senate majority leader harry lead desperately seems to be trying to negotiate with his republican counterpart senator mitch mcconnell. take a listen. >> i say to my friend, i will come to his office. i will go to the white house with him. i will do anything that i can do to try to move this process forward. but i say as respectfully as i can to my friend, the senior senator from kentucky, the process has not been moved forward during this day. >> reid says republicans refuse to negotiate in good faith. reading between the lines it may be more accurate to say republicans are refusing to negotiate with their democratic counterparts. they appear to be perhaps
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directly negotiating with the white house. governor? >> republicans sound a lot more upbeat at this point, don't they? >> that is absolutely, correct. all it seemed to take was a few phone calls with the president and with the vice president. here is senator mitch mcconnell. so what he is referring to is senator reid trying to move his plan on the senate floor trying to do it with 51 votes instead of 60 votes and i should note that the house today struck down the language of the reid bill in the house. governor? >> mike emanuel, thank you very much. reporting from capitol hill. >> sure. >> republican congressman david dreier from california is joining me for an exclusive
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interview. first of all, today you introduced the so-called reid lookalike bill. tell us what you were doing anded why you would introduce harry reid's bill as a republican in the house. >> it is great to be with you. in our quest to be bipartisan i would like to take your deer hunting cooking story and quote president truman and say if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. >> mike: our audience loves that. i think you nailed it. >> i don't care about them, do you like it, mike, is the question. >> mike: tell us about this bill. >> as you know, from the house we have passed two measures, cut cap and balance and then we just were able to pass albeit by a narrow margin john boehner's plan that stemmed from the bipartisan meeting that took place one week ago today when we saw john boehner sitting with harry reid and
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mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. harry reid backed away from the measure after the president made it clear that he didn't want democrats to support it. we know that mitch mcconnell has been repeatedly asking -- repeatedly asked harry reid to bring this forward and we are waiting right now until 1:00 tomorrow morning. the fact is mitch has made the request and harry reid has said no. so mitch asked us to say since senator reid said his plan was the only one that could pass both houses of congress he asked us to introduce it in the house and we did it today and it was overwhelmingly defeated in a bipartisan way. this was done, mike, because we know that we are going to have to work in a bipartisan way to address this. 75 times we have seen the debt ceiling increased since 1962. the first time interestingly enough congressman don rumsfeld was there and it was a couple hundred million dollars increase. look at where we are today with
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a $4.3 trillion national debt. what is it that we are doing for the first time in ever? we are actually focusing on the root cause of the problem. we don't have a debt ceiling problem, what we have is a debt problem and that is why we have to get to the root of it and that is what we are going to do. >> mike: democrats are acuting you of playing -- accusing you of playing political games anded that is why you introduced the bill. it was harry reid who said he had the only bill that could pass the house. you have proven it can't pass the house. what s the message outages hope your counterparts from the senate get from that. >> a great question. the answer is we need to come together but we need to realize that the perfect harry reid bill, and i know nobody calls their bills perfect in a time like this but he searchly believed it was the best bill
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there, that that in fact could enjoy strong suspects you port and we have proven it could be part of the discussion but can't be the foe tal point, the center piece of the discussion that is taking place because -- and frankly, there are a number of things between harry reid's bill and john boehner's there are together. they both call for the establishment of a joint select committee. members of the house and senate who would come together and make recommendations for $1.8 trillion in spending cuts. just the fact that we have the democrats to talk about decreasing spending is an overwhelming victory because it has never been done before. >> mike: we only have about 0 seconds. i want to get your take on the fact that the atmosphere in the house seems to be toxic. nancy pelosi making some derogatory comments about the speaker. >> when you are managing
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measures on the floor you have a responsibility of sitting there and listening to everything. so many new recommends, we have lots of really good people who offered thought, less than bombastic and they continually accuse us of trying to get rid of social security and it is critical that an 85-year-old woman as has been the case with me will say they ken telling me that you are trying to get rid of my social security. and they are getting to the class war fare argument, mike. time and time again. of the tax cuts of president bush we saw $1.782 trillion in revenues in '07 they went to 2.567. a 44% increase. $785 billion increase. that is the way. making sure we have growth oriented tax cuts is the way we get the debt down along with this effort to reduce spending. >> mike: congressman david
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dreier, thank you very much. >> always good to be with you, mike. >> mike: look forward to seeing you again, tune. we havsoon. >> we have prime minister benjamin netanyahu. benjamin netanyahu. first, congressman red riddle is joining me next.n this vlage stay with us.
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>> we'll talk to congress reed riddle of wsin >> mike: thanks for joini gng e tonight. i know you are busy so i appreciate you taking a moment. i want to ask about the part os the bill. said it was a great idea and now a terrible idea. what changed in their point of view? why are they running for
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something they once supported? >> why are they running from something that the american people support. this has broad support across the nation. >> mike: congressman, it showed 75 percent of the american people support a balanced budget amendment. >> it is straightforward common sense . we theed to have government do it in washington. >> mike: there are people who point out the balanced budget amendment is different than the ones the democrats supported. maybe republicans have a modified version if you could get it passed through the senate among the democrats? >> i talked to a lot of my colleagues in the conference and aisle. we wrote cut, cap and balance, they put it together . >> we could get bipartisan
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agreement. i don't understand what the president and democrats are afraid of except that the american people say yes. >> mike: how frustrated are you when your bill gets to the house and pass and then in the senate it is cut. >> it is the second time. i just wanted to give people a chance to have their say. when you start the segment you have a live shot from the u.s. senate chamber. i haven't seen them moving over there since i got to congress. >> mike: congressman there is a long-time expression. people in the house say that the other party are my opponents but the senate is my enemy. do you sometimes feel that way? >> i have the last couple of weeks. they are trying to make it about the debt limit and using language like the debt limit. that is not the crisis. the debt is the crisis and my bill was design to fix it. >> mike: talk about speaker
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boehner's leadership of the house. there is criticisms from outside. i want to say up front. i think he handled it masterfully as a person who has one-half of the one of the 3moving parts of government . a lot of people don't understand he doesn't own the white house or senate. he has a slim majority in the house. assess for me how he with the divided republican caucus. >> he is skillful and tactful and in our conference meetings, he is like a motivational coach. he was not beraiding anybody. he has a tough job. republican conference is broadd. you have a freshman class that is large and diverse and we have the rest of the conference that have been here for a while. i don't envy his position but i admire the way he does his jobb. >> mike: congressman, i think a lot of you have won.
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the debate is not how much you are going to spend but what you are cutting. is it time for the republicans to declare victory and find common depround and move on? >> i think it is time for the congress and the senate and both house and senate to find out what the american people want and that's what government is supposed to be about. ultimately there will be movement, but be frank here. the republicans in the house of representatives have done all of the moving. we sent cut, cap and balance over to them. day or so ago we sent the boehner bill to them and they tabled that one as well . we had to have one of our colleagues bring the rebill to the floor. all we get from the senate is a memo. >> mike: congressman, thank you for being here and what you said earlier. you framed it better than what i heard anybody say. it is not what the republicans
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want but what the people want. it is refreshing to understand why you are there. you get it and thank you for helping all of us see that. >> that is a kind word. thank you, governor. >> mike: it is a plires. up next, the very guys who threaten to default are the guys who can prevent it charlie will tell you after the break. stay with us. thanks to the venture card from capital one, we get double miles on every purchase, so me and my lads earned arip to san francisco twice as fast we get double miles every time we use our card... i'll take these two... ...no matter what we're buying. ...and all of those. and since double miles add up fast, we can bring the whole gang! it's hard to beat double miles! whoa dude. [ male announcer ]et the venture card from capital one and earn double miles on every purchase, every day. go to capilone.com. what's in your wallet?
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as the senate works late in senate night for a debt solution will wall street like what the deal is?
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we'll find out from charlie in the fox business network. i wish i could say who cares but we need to care. >> why should wall street have a role here. the market is going to be interesting. if there is any reason for a movement with the republican deal, it is because they are worried about the markets on monday. if we have a major sell off. market went down 400 poigns and that's what they are worried about. it is interesting . the white house is interested in something opposite. if they can get around the debt that doesn't go above the debt cap . they are fiending out measures will not make it and they have to do deep cuts. we learned that people could
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have prevented it. >> tim geithner could have prevented it. >> mike: what could he have done. >> i talked to the rating agencies. they have talked to him since march. they knew it was coming down the pike. you would think at that point they would have got serious and have had legitimate meetings and the president instead of attacking paul ryan. he came out with a good plan. there could have been a compromise. instead he becomely hut down any sort of the compromise. you have to ask the white house why in march when they knew it was a downgrade pending and the rating agencies were gettingantsy. why didn't they act? >> mike: charlie, you are one of the few people who have courage to say something about
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the brokerage houses who are paying for the political support for the president. what role have they played, spectacularly goldman saches. why we have the particular administration in congress and the role they played in not getting out of the situation? >> what is interested about goldman saches last thursday he told political leaders to grow up and be big boys. my head almost exploded. they are the biggest hypocrites in the world. [applause] cthe wall street crowd, think about this . i really, i think that this is so important for people to realize that if anybody is making money off of the massive size of government and sell of debt, it is lloyd baselinefine and the wall street guys and money management if i recalls that are urging a resolution on
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this. governor, linn, we shouldn't default. we don't have to default. tim geithner's not that dumb. >> mike: i am not worrying that. >> i will say this. the bottom line is we issue a lot of debt and someone is making money off of it, it is wall street. >> mike: if the whole thing falls apart . we get downgraded, tell me specifically what happens to joe america out there? >> let's start breaking tup. we go in default and we don't have to go in default. i wrote the story last week on the fox business network. president's people said we'll do everything but going to default and our bond goes to d we'll have a financial collapse it will be bad. all of the financial instruments if it goes to d it
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is massive loss says. i think standard and poors is likely to downgrade . the impact of that. if they start cutting stuff. let's say they do two billion of legitimate cuts and s&p downgrades us. i don't think the market will care. that's what killed me about the wall street guys. they are make like it is not a debate. aside from national defense and social security what is the best debate. it is the amazing debate. >> mike: it does impact on everything from a bank loan and maul business owners able to fund the inventory on the shelve. everyone will be affected to this and our message to washington get the job done quiet. >> by tuesday. >> mike: and one person who gets it done is charlie and these why we depend on him.
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i don't think anyone even cares about me anymore. there is hope -- the senior citizens league. call 1-800-333-8725 or visit seniorsleague.org. the senior citizens league. you're not alone. an update of the debt limit standoff in d.c. talk of a frame work of a deal leaving harry reid to postpone a key vote tonight. reid making the announcement on the senate the floor late saturday saying an early morning vote would be put off until noon or 1:00 p.m. rather on sunday afternoon. officials say the two sides are discussing a plan to raise the debt limit by $2.4 trillion and enact spending cuts of a larger amount in two stages. the deal would also require congress to vote on a balanced budget amendment to the
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constitution but not require its approval. but reid says there are still many parts of the potential pact that need to be worked out. the senate has officially adjourned until 12 noon on sunday. potentially some progress. we'll see. i'now, back to "huckabee" on f. . you are looking at a live look at the senate floor where the senate is planning on a 1:00 a.m. vote. a lot is happen negligent senate. we'll talk to the republican senator from north dakota. my good friend john hoban. thanks for joining tonight. >> good to be with you. >> mike: we'll talk about the mixed message. mcconnell said we are close to a deal and talked to biden and the white house and optmistic
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. harry reid said the sky is falling and nothing good is happening. who's right? >> i think the basic tenants are in place to get to a deal. we ned to get it down for the american people. basic frame work is there and i hope what you are seeing is push i hope the president will be involveny toz push to get the deal done. i think we can do it and we have all of the frame work in place and all of the elements are there. we node to just get it done. >> mike: john you and i are frens a long time. i will ignore the fact several million people are listening in. what is the atmosphere like when you go behind closed door and you are talking. you don't have to break a confidence. but what is going on back there? >> mike from our perspective we have to get a grip on
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spending and create a economic environment. we have to do it just like you did in arkansas and get a grip on spending. with the debt ceiling increase we have to get reductions that equal or exceed the debt ceiling. that is fundmental for the fiscal health of our country. >> mike: what about attitudes. >> we are consistent and we'll get there. >> mike: are senators angry or frustrated and tell me their emotion when they are in the room and what they are expressing? >> all of the above. all of the above. but my feeling we laid out a plan to get the country back to fiscal health and have to do it now and future generations for our kids. to have the kind of country we grew up in. we have to get a grip on spending. we are basically there and we
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have to finish off the deal and get it done before tuesday. >> mike: we had an interesting conversation with congressman who introduced the reid bill. it failed in the house. what message did that send to the democrat colleagues and harry reid after he said his bill was the only one that could pass in the house? >> i think it sent an important message. i met with 40 members of the house. we had a quick dinner together to compare notes. it sent a strong message that the boehner plan is the basic frame work and that is the frame work that the administration and the senate and house leaders were close to last weekend and that's what you saw today from leader mcconnell and speaker boehner, is that that frame work is the frame work that can work and now we need to finish it up and get it done. more savings and increase the debt ceil a vote on the
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balanced budget amendment and gets us on the right track it is not as much as we need but a big step in the right direction. >> mike: do you sense that democrats that are not ready to on the record. they want to get it done and realize that at least some semblance of the boehner bill is best to come up with, is that happening in >> i don't think so . that's where we are going . i think you can see, you know sometimes people think that like the boehner bill got voted down in the senate you start over. that's not the case. you adjoust and move forward. you can see optimism from one side and pessimism from one and that is part of the pushing the process to a conclusion. you know as a governor that has to happen for the good of the country. >> mike: john, you have been a governor and a senator and i hope you and your colleagues can get this resolved somehow
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in this. thank you for being here and hope to see you soon. >> god bless. >> mike: coming up my exclusive interview with israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu. [applause] [ male announcer ] to the 5:00 a.m. scholar. the two trains and a bus rider. the "i'll sleep when it's done" academic. for 80 years, we've been inspired by you. and we've been honored to walk with you to help you get where you want to be ♪ because your moment is now. let nothing stand in your way. learn more at keller.edu.
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>> we are going to be live tomorrow night and bringing you the latest in washington
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whether you can stand it or not and it is important what is taking place and that's why we are going live. we'll have exclusive brews with joe mansion senator from west virginia and talking with the people on the floor. we have a special feature with paul william and more of the interview with benjamin netanyahu and much more. yoin us tomorrow at 8:00 and 11:00 eastern for more of the huckabee show live from new york . after meeting with vice-president biden. israel defense minister said israel is considering for apologizing for the problems caused in flostilla ships in which nine activist were killed. that would help his nation. i can't imagine why israel would apologize anymore than
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america would apologize for killing osama bin laden. i discussed the policy with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. this is the second part. israel turned away protestors that wanted to come here and raise noise . ing arey detain 69 denied entry and never got in the country. criticism came to israel in a land of free speech. >> it was not a question of speech, but it was a question of deliberate provocations in some cases had viulentt overtones. thousands of people were you know going to descend on the u.s. and have massive demonstrations aligned america's worst enemies. would they do that? >> mike: i would hope not. >> what would happen in immigration.
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>> mike: i don't know. >> at the airport immigration officials are pretty tough. i have seen them work. >> mike: speaking thav. a lot of americans feel that the israelis have a better handle on airport security than we do in the tsa. give us adrice and tell us things that americans might learn from the israelis and operated without incident and you have been targeted more than anybody else . the process through which americans go through to get on an airplane is increasingly unpopular. >> that is tough. i think it is unpopular but when planes fall down from the sky. >> mike: but the process in israel is different. it is not the procedure of taking off your shoes and having someone put hands in your belt. is there something we could learn from you? >> i haven't looked at it recently. what makes it better for all
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of us soon will be technology and that gets intrusive. but technology can do a, a warks i with it and you can sail through if you are not a terrorist. >> mike: there is certainly an ongoing issue of the flostilla that some have put together against gaza and you are effective and successful in keeping a repeat of last year's flostill it >> deadly raid on the flostilla. soldiers opened fire only after being attacked. activist said their flostilla were bringing aid to gaza. protestors in israel said the country has the right to defend itself. >> mike: how does this continue to threaten the sovereign and safety and image of israel? >> it is deliberately abused.
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people say we want a free gaza. a free gaza what? we want to import and want the people of gaza to import goods. they can't, because basically, you know brought down all of the limitation. you can import gaza and cars and pasta, anything. medicine, toys, you name it. it is completely open . the gaza economy grew in the last quarter by how much? >> mike: no. >> put your seat belt on. >> mike: i am braced. >> 25 percent. >> mike: 25 percent. >> highest of the world. >> mike: i would think so. >> so they are doing all right. but so we don't have any action and we don't want to take action against the people of gasa. but gaza is governed and
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control would by this dictatorial regime of hamas and aligned with iran and a proxy of iran and it is depriving the free speech. women can't go out freely. it is a oppressive regime. free gaza. free them of hamas. they are not smuglingg in good and medicine. but they are trying to smuggle in rockets and weapons. you have seen the rockets. they want to snuggle in more. we are willing to let you bring in everything except weapons . the place where they smuggle weapons is not the boats. one ship they can bring in the stuff that would take six month to muggle through. one ship we intercepted last
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year, we had the entire ordinance of hezbollah for the second lebanon. one ship . so we are concerned with ships coming in not because they bring in love boats and cruise liners and tourist. we don't care about that. but they bring in weapons . so we have a naval blockade against that. you can bring in anything to gaza except weapons and that's what we are trying to enforce. >> mike: i am pretty sure if a boat made its way in new york harbor filled with weapons, i ceened of have a feeling that u.s. and mayor bloomburg would react the same way. i don't think you could import a glock much less a ship full of heavy arm in our own ports and so certainly stand to reason you have difficulty with that? >> i suspect if thousands of rockets had been fired from a
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neighboring country, a neighboring territory to the united states, and more was en route by boat, you would stop this. you actually did this with a cuban blockade. president kennedy put out a blockade because of aimed at the united states. we haven't taken out the missiles from gaza. but we don't want more missile to come in and that's the purpose of our naval action. but as far as the population is concerned. they can bring in anything they want to and they are doing well. >> mike: you can watch the conclusion on tomorrow night's live show. coming up. grammy-award winning country artist, the gaitlin brothers . we are watching the debt chrisis from washington. chrisis from washington. [ male announcer ] this is the network. a network of possibilities.
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>> mike: we are happy to have them with us . larry gatit will be part of our hot seat and you will hang around. >> i do and i have stuff to say. >> mike: i bet you do. when have you not had something to say. >> i appreciate it we'll have a good time. >> mike: as long as you guys performed and had a lot of hits. this song evoked something out of the americans as dramatic as anything you have seen.
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>> first time we sang it a couple of years ago in veg as. you all don't have to stand up they did. i am not putting heat on you . evoke the memoris and good things about our country, i did it and that's why we sing it every night and they love it. >> let's hear it. >> i was in a airplane reading the newspaper and the arcticle i was redding on the editorial page is talking about an country and terrible people. the more i read the madder i got. johnnie cash said pilgrim, if something makes you mad enough you will dad burn you will write a song. ♪ they have feed hungry people. ♪ built a shelter. ♪ people sleeping out in the cold. ♪ doing all good things good
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people are supposed to do. ♪ do all these good people, americas that's who. [applause] ♪ they have millions of people from the tyranny of evil and handed the government back to the peoples' hands. ♪ you will not read much about it in the newspapr. . ♪ i am telling you it is true. ♪ who are these good people in ♪ americans, that's who. ♪ glory, glory, halluljah. ♪
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♪ glory, glory, halluljah. they have left their wifes and babis and marched in help. ♪ i stand right up and tell you how i feel about it. ♪ what i know in my heart is true. ♪ who are these good people? ♪ americans, that's who. [applause] ♪ note glory, glory, hallulujah. ♪ glory, glory hallulujah. i got chill butches. ♪ glory hallulujah
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that's what i am talking. ♪ who are these good people? who are they? ♪ americans, that's who. just like you friend and neighbors. ♪ americans that's who. brother steve and these from arkansas. ♪ americans that's who. like our friend governor mike huckabee. god bless you, mike huckabee. america. ♪ americans that's who. [applause] >> the gatlin brothers. reminds us that americans are the people whatthat the world depends on time and time again. make sure you join us for another live huckabee 8:00 p.m. and latest on the debt negotiations in washington . thanks to all of you for being with us and i hope you had a
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great night. see you live tomorrow night from new york. this is mike huckabee from the fox news studios. more from the gatlins. ♪ ooh.
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♪ our time is short ♪ this is our fate ♪ i'm yours [ singing scat ]

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