handicapping it after the fact. maybe by then they will turn the air conditioning back on. being here all these days i've lost ten pounds just sweating. that's just me and the crew says neil, you could use it. ♪ >> eric: hello, everyone. it's 5:00 on the east coast. this is "the five." i'm eric bolling, with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, andrea tantaros and greg gutfeld. a lot going on today. of course, we'll talk about the very latest on the debt debt deal in d.c. but flogging, stoning and amputation are punishment outlined in shariah law and some u.s. courts have taken on the fight whether they have to refer to islamic law for guidance. plus, how would you feel about random drug testing in your child's middle school? we will tell you where that is happening. the new f.t.c. rule ace lowing social media background checks. another reason you and your kids better watch out, what you post online. all of that and much more. "the five" starts right now.

♪ ♪ >> eric: all right. the d.c. debt deal dominating the news. and rightly so. the country is or was on the verge. here is the deal. $2.1 trillion in cults. with the ceiling rise of $2.1 trillion in tramples. maybe twoin -- tranches. based on a panel, super panel if you will, with triggers. the good news is the spending cut by $2.1 trillion. the bad news, we're still overspending by $2.1 trillion. the good news is no news taxes in the deal. bad news is the democrats are still trying to see taxes in the deal. bottom line, tea party, game-changers. thank you, tea party. take the win and live to play another day. in honor of the tea party, we'll say thank you for a big, big old bag of tea. >> is that for real? >> eric: a big bag of tea >> kimberly: just for bob

beckel. >> eric: a game changer, my friend. look at that thing. drop a tea party. they changed the rhetoric, changed the dialogue. >> bob: i'll give you that. they did it. i give them credit for bringing this thing up, which is going to be in my mind a horribly cruel, cruel outcome of this. we had to do it. i understand why some liberals will have to vote for it so we don't go over the ledge that you and the tea party want to take us. i'll tell you something. the losers are poor kids and winners are millionaires and billionaires. congratulations, tea party. >> eric: let's talk about that again. we need to point out -- greg, we talked about this in the green room, we are still raising the debt ceiling because we are going deeper and deep in debt. just not $3 trillion more deeper in debt. >> greg: exactly. you are increasing the spending by 70% over a decade. this is like being on a diet and taking the olive off the meat lover's pizza and bob is complaining about the olive. this is ridiculous.

here is the deal. a great line from the movie "the sush suspects." the greatest trick the devil ever did was convincing you he didn't exist. that's what the dems have done. they convinced people that increasing is spending cuts. it's an amazing trick. >> kimberly: are you saying they are cricky? >> greg: i am. kimberly, nothing goes over your head. >> kimberly: i'm telling you. >> andrea: speaking of the devil, we need a devil sandwich, because this is what the democrats said about the plan. you can eat the sandwich. >> eric: sugarcoated devil sandwich, i believe. >> bob: if i could ask to pull up a graph. i want to show my different eric, who has been complaining about barack obama and how much he contributes to the $14.55 trillion. all right, if you look at who contributed to it by presidents, before ronald reagan it was $1 trillion. reagan, $1.9 trillion. bush, the elder, $1.5 trillion. clinton, $1.4 trillion. george w. bush, $6.2 trillion. and barack obama,

$2.4 trillion. that adds up to your $14.55 trillion. >> eric: that's wrong. i don't know where you got that. >> bob: does it add up to $14.5 trillion? >> eric: i tell you, when mr. obama took office january 20 of 2009, the national debt was $10.6 trillion. it's now $14.5 trillion. that is almost $4 trillion. >> bob: let me finish. allow me. >> eric: that is $4 trillion in two-and-a-half years. george w. bush was eight-year term. if you want to extrapolate obama adding to the debt, that comes to about $12 trillion over eight years, doubling the debt from when he took over. >> bob: that number is wrong. not only are your politics terrible and your economics, but you can't add. that is something -- >> eric: i can add perfectly. that number is wrong. >> kimberly: tea party math, right? >> bob: right. >> kimberly: you said that about the tea party. >> bob: tea terrorists. >> kimberly: bob, they want the best for the country. you know what is interesting, there was an article on sunday

where he quotes miria cardona, democratic strategist. you might agree with this. she said the 87 little tyrants have no understanding the fall-out of blocking a debt deal because they never covered and have no interest in compromising and have no clue about the government or how government really works. >> eric: we may have lost your mic. let's talk about this. house vote on the rule so they're ready to proceed for the vote on the debt deal. what do you think of the debt deal? we'll work on the mic. >> andrea: i don't think it's ideal. but i do love that the liberals hate it so much. they have been completely embarrassed. rendered irrelevant because of it. think about it. the reason the tea party a conservatives were successful, the left disappear and the democrats don't care about them anymore. i will say this, though. even though the plan is all right, take the deal. i'm very skeptical about the committee, the super committee. we already had a super committee. frankly, i feel like congress is already an elected

committee we pay to do the job. i'm very skeptical about who is going to be on and what cuts will be made. >> bob: the committee is a difference. the commission they appointed by law originally supposed to report to the congress, they had to do an up and down vote, same thing. before they satish down to meet, they took away automatic. this is a committee of the congress, select committee of the congress. water gate was select committee of the congress. this is an important committee. if they come up with something -- if, that is a big if -- it will be for the first time since baseloading up or down vote no, amendment and no filibuster. >> eric: they have to come up with something. if they don't, the triggers are in place. by the way, the triggers one of them is on, one of them that would hurt the republicans they feel, 50% of the cut that has to happen if you are going to go ahead and raise the debt ceiling, 50% of the cut that has to happen has to come from the military, defense spending. tough medicine. >> andrea: that is right. stimulus plan bloated the

discretionary spending that upsets democrats do mestic spend willing hit the viewers at home the quickest. the defense spending probably not as much. i think that will be a powerful leveraging tool for the democrats to push for tax increaseswa do you want, republicans? do you want defense cuts or tax increases? >> greg: it always comes down to the polarization, defense, versus domestic. the left prefers to increase dependence through entitlements. that's why they want domestic spending. whereas everybody else in america wants to increase the defense, because that is how you preseven independence. it's about independence versus dependence. >> bob: everybody else in america? >> greg: everybody else. except for you, bob. >> bob: no, no, no there are is a lot of people who get social security and medicare that might think it's an important thing. one thing that is going to happen, the debt committee if you call it that, has to report the revenue increases, the taxes have to go up or what we'll do i hope is when the republicans who have to put a bill forward to keep the bush tax cuts going, obama

will veto it and ought to. >> kimberly: my mic is back up. bob tried to cut it off. we got it back. >> andrea: no pulling out kimberly's microphone. >> kimberly: i love the sabotage. it's very good. this isn't pro-growth economy. this is a problem. this is a president that is moving country forward or someone who came up with leadership and plan an idea here? yet you criticize, right, bob, tea party and other people that were the ones driving the debate, that actually were the ones that were the game-changer in mid-term election and they were the party that defineed this debate and the cuts that needed to take place? >> bob: i said the tea terrorists drove the debate no question about it. but when you say that is leadership, i consider it terrible stuff they have come up with. you say, so you say we should -- should i sit back and applaud because they brought this outrageously disgraceful, sickening bill up? >> eric: no. what is outrageously disgraceful? we are still going to spend

$3.6 or $3.# trillion? what is bad about the tea party saying okay, stop. enough is enough. don't spend $4 trillion. you don't need to spend that. >> bob: they're taking money out of programs that matter. they're taking it out of education. out of the infrastructure. taking it out of women and children. and the w.i.c. program -- >> greg: why spending 70% more money? >> bob: why don't you raise taxes on people who are wealthy? >> greg: it doesn't work, bob. >> bob: bull. >> greg: here is the problem. >> bob: that was close. >> greg: in 2008 everybody elected a president on hope and change. it wasn't a principle. it was a feel good euphemism. now the tea party is based on a singular principal: smaller government. they're not acting for much. they're saying stop. you can increase spending but cut it back a little. obama does not have a reaction to that. he doesn't know how to respond because he ran on a euphemism. he ran on a bumper sticker. >> bob: tea terrorists ran on cruelty. bo >> bob.

>> kimberly: even before we had the debate, moody and the credit agencies are still saying they might downgrade us. >> eric: all right. we're going to leave it there, but before we go, take a look at this. thank you, tea party. thank tea party. also thank mr. obama. because mr. obama, you are the reason the tea party exists today. coming up, the picks for the winners -- don't do it, bob beckel. don't do it. and losers of the debt deal. we like to hear what you have to say. e-mail us at thefive@foxnews.com. don't rip it! [ male announcer ] everywhere your pet goes

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♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back to "the five." the debate start on the house floor and there is a vote expected this evening. the senate is expected to vote tomorrow. let's take a listen to eric cantor to hear what he had to say about the deal they're voting on in a few hours. >> the house will vote on a measure today that although not perfect, will begin to change the culture here in washington. now, i said the bill is not perfect and it's not. but changing the way that washington spends taxpayer

dollars is often a lot like redirecting our turning an aircraft carrier. it's a monumental task. >> andrea: making some excuses. all right. now the president has similar sentiment that equally this bill is not ideal for washington lawmakers. take a listen to the president. >> this has been a long and messy process. as with any compromise, the outcome is far from satisfying, but it also launched an important debate how we approach the big challenges we face. how we rebuild our economy to create greater opportunity. and about whether we tackle our challenges by drawing on our best values as one country. everyone pitching in and playing by the same rules. >> andrea: a lot of people think president obama came out of this a loser. let's discuss is president obama a loser or winner the debt debate. kimberly, you say he is a loser? >> kimberly: thanks. nice, in a respectful way like

they taught me in girl scouts. you want him to do well. but even democrats are not happy with obama. maurd dowd said that the democratic lawmakers worry that the tea party neutered the president. that doesn't sound good to me, bob. another quote. we are watching him turn into jimmy carter right before our eyes." >> greg: are you really a girl scout? >> kimberly: i didn't make the girl scouts. >> bob: i made boy scouts but i got thrown out on a camping trip because i took liquor with me. >> kimberly: shocking facts revealed. >> bob: i think obama -- >> greg: every story by bob. >> bob: let me say this. i'll give credit here, the top winner of this is the tea terrorist party. >> greg: tea partiers, bob. >> bob: that is what you call them. >> andrea: stick to the president. >> bob: the president won for this reason. when it comes out for the country and the campaign -- he doesn't have to have another vote on this. he won there. >> andrea: i agree there. >> bob: in 2012. he gets to take it up against the republicans and say that

everybody else put in except for rich people, that the republicans look to protect. we'll wait for another segment to talk about mitt romney. by the way, doesn't eric cantor sound like gomeer pyle.? seriously? doesn't he? >> greg: what do you sound like, bob? >> bob: recovering drunk. which is what i am. i give mitch mcconnell credit. he held back and played it smart and came in at the end. the other winners clearly are eric's pals, millionaire and billionaires. >> andrea: eric? >> eric: obama won by default. he stepped back and let the process take place. his crep tryst left decided -- centrist left allowed him to get through the election to win. tea party won and lost. they won because they changed the debath and changed dialogue but they still are raising the debt ceiling. it will be harder, hard-pressed to get the tea parties to vote for the final deal in that respect they lost. harry reid is a loser. he was important for five

minutes in the whole process. >> andrea: to bob's point, tea party took the president and drug him kicking and screaming to the middle. don't think he will jump up and down and take credit for this in the election. >> kimberly: here is the problem. where was the president's plan? everybody kept waiting. come up with something. the bend and snap or snap, crackle and pop. something that people can understand. >> bob: i agree with the tea party in the long run, in the long run tea terrorist will find themselveses in a better position. >> greg: that is five times you said it. you can't say it before. i'm tired of the phrase. >> andrea: greg, who are your winners and losers? >> greg: obama won because he got it off the table. unless tea party people keep the debate alive. big government won because it

expanded. anthony weiner lost because he is going why didn't my problem happen during this? because if his scandal had happened now, no one would care. >> kimberly: so dominique strauss-kahn and stephen strasburg. they'rand arnold schwarzenegger. >> eric: the left lost. nothing in this for them. >> bob: you're exactly right. exactly right. nothing for us at all. >> andrea: doesn't that hurt ennewsiasm going into an election? >> bob: a good point but i'll tell you what it does. the fear of actually having republicans controlling the senate, the house and the white house, enough that the progressive base will come back en masse in big numbers because they don't want the tea terrorist party to have that much influence or be completely controlled by the republicans. >> andrea: they are so mad. this is up with of many columnists krugman from the far left, saying i mean lambasting the president saying he sur rendered, sur

rendered last december. he surrendered on a scale of raw extortion, he says. >> bob: that's what it was. >> andrea: he says we are witnessing a catastrophe on multiple levels from paul krugman of the "new york times." there is it. raw, tortion over the debt ceiling. >> eric: if this does somehow work, the economy turns around not because of it but in spite of it, the tea party will be credited with saving the economy. they're going to be in 2012, they will say look what we did? we turned the dialogue, growth and jobs came back to the economy. this isn't obama's win. this is tea party win. >> bob: you are an economist of sorts. one reason they kept spending cuts factored low next year and growing as they go along is taking spending out of the economy right now is the craziest notion imaginable. >> andrea: so is taxing. >> bob: i talked to a lot of liberals over the weekend. everybody is furious about this, i am, too, but i think

obama had a gun to his head. it was extortion. he went along with it. regretly, he had to. worst legislation i seen. >> andrea: where you and i agree it's done damage to the republican party. the president because he ducked out of the debate for a long time, he hasn't been hurt by this. he is the absentee dad that shows up, doesn't play a role in the kid's life and college graduation he's in the pictur picture. i'm here now. >> bob: did we do the sandwich thing already? can we get it off the table? it smells so bad. >> kimberly: even the washington beast says the tea party has taken over washington. there is no left wing -- >> greg: the coffee party, the answer, remember the answer to the tea party? there is the real winner. >> andrea: all this talk of food and drink makes me huppingry. we have to go. coming up, we examine how the debt debate can influence the

2019 presidential election. stay close. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: it's me. right. okay. we've been talking about the presidential race in 2012, the presidential race. and the republican candidates. how does this debt deal if you want to call it that, this disgrace affect the presidential race in 2012? go ahead. >> andrea: i think a lot of candidates will be fearful to come out and support this thing, given full endorsement because they're afraid of your friends in the tea party. they will be careful. they have been quiet up until this point. it will be interesting to see when the super duper committee comes out in november which was just a few months before the ames straw poll to see how

they handle the situation. before the straw poll, they are going to be -- the caucus, sorry. veer far right, i believe. expect them to be con servetive and -- conservative and not in favor of the plan. >> greg: the great thing about it, it will make the debate about one crucial question. reducing the size and cope of government. everybody will have the right answer, including the democrats. not just going to be the republicans that will be talking about reducing government. going to be your guys. >> bob: ahhh. >> greg: no one can talk about big government without looking irrelevant. >> bob: let me be irrelevant. i'm for big government. >> kimberly: let me be really relevant. i'm for small government. >> bob: really? being between you two is like you talk about a devil sandwich. >> greg: that sounds good. >> bob: a good sandwich on one hand. but a devil sandwich. >> kimberly: our horns hold up our halo.

>> call me the business expert, i'm the one that has done this before. >> bob: you have. >> eric: i really think going forward in the election the economy will turn around a little bit. we'll see job creation and no way does the far left take credit for it no way does obama take credit for it. it will be a tea party victory. that's why people like mitt romney coming out saying i'm against the deal, bachmann saying i'm against the deal. rick perry when he gets in and wins will say i'm against the deal, i'm a tea party. they'll take credit. rightly so. >> bob: you are an excellent businessman. off beech house facing the ocean in new jersey. that's good -- you have a beach house facing ocean in new jersey. i had a shack in the back on a pond once myself. mitt romney, now is that a big surprise? that mitt romney would turn quickly and say no, i'm not for this thing? he is unbelieveable way he switches back and forth. it will cost him in the long run. perry, by the way, he was out addressing the most

conservative republican tea party group in the west. western conservatives. he had a straw poll and the speech was terrible. he got 13% of the vote. the pizza man, mccain got 39%. perry got 13%. this is from the values voters. he is a lousy candidate and i welcome him to the race. >> andrea: i disagree with you about president obama if the economy improves. i think if the economy starts to get better he will be able to take total credit for this. >> bob: he will take credit for it. >> andrea: i know it's not the reality, but he will take a lot of credit. i don't think that the tea party will be able to -- to -- [ overtalk ] >> eric: he wasn't involved at all. >> andrea: the bad dad. shows up at graduation and tries to take credit. he needs to send the tea party a flower arrangement for helping him move to the middle. >> bob: wait a second. nobody on the democratic side

will take credit for this piece of dirt. this is not a debate about the size of government next year, it's a debate about who can best be president. barack obama or one of the others. >> greg: you got nothing. >> bob: you're depressing me so bad let me go to an exhilarating story about alcohol, something i know something about. the district of columbia had, is now rated as the highest addiction among alcoholic and drug addicts. i can tell you from my own view working with a lot of them, a lot of that is a heavily, a poor area. it's also a crossroads for drug trafficking, that goes through there all the time. for older adigits in washington, never rehab available. so not higher that there is a higher incidence. it's sad. it's late but not too late. >> greg: you know why there is so much drinking in d.c., bob this because you live there. also the museum there is not a lot to do.

if you go to d.c., they want to drag you to a museum. i go to a bar. that's my museum. so many beautiful bottles to look at. >> kimberly: isn't this debate driving you to drink? you don't even live in d.c. >> eric: i spend time in d.c. a lot of people living on the street in d.c. is this why? >> bob: there is large homeless community. but there is poverty through most of alcohol. they go to alcohol and drugs to get relief from depression. a fascinating -- one thing, joe biden is getting dumped op because the secret service respects his cottage at the beach. so biden is getting rental income from government. what is wrong with that? >> eric: nothing wrong with that. >> bob: he got rent before he became vice president. rental property. >> andrea: he is eligible for up to $66,000 until after

the fall of 2013 when the rental deal -- look, he is an independently wealthy man. he was getting rent on the cottage. >> bob: this sounds like the mayan calendar thing. >> kimberly: i got it. >> greg: they should pay him more because he's entertaining. imagine living with biden. >> bob: that would be a barrel of laughs. >> andrea: the secret service wanted to be in the cottage so they would haven't to listen to him. >> bob: coming up, lawmakers fight to keep islamic law out of the state. stay with us, as "the five" continues next.

i'm bret baier in washington. we may be getting closer to the end of the week's long fight over the extension of the government credit line. tonight on "special report" we have the latest on the anticipated vote by the house on the compromise bill, a vote that could fall within our hour. the measure gives president obama more than $2 trillion in additional borrowing power and aims to cut spending, but there is plenty of fine print. we'll go over it for you. a couple of big sticking points for lawmakers are defense and medicare cuts. if the joint committee of lawmakers does not do its job. we have report option both of those issues. we'll bring?

stuart varney to tell us what this is doing to the market at home and overseas. carl cameron has reaction to the agree fire department the republican presidential candidates. again, waiting for the vote in the house. "special report" starts at 6:00 eastern. now send it back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: unbelievable. yet exciting at the same time. welcome back to "the five." so the outrage over the ground zero mosque spotlighted increase of muslims in this country. did you know that the u.s. courts have been fighting against having to consult shariah law in our courts here in their courtrooms? this is something that is going on in a number of states. if you recall oklahoma in november approved a constitutional amendment that bans the use of islamic law in

court. one would think the law here, we have it, it's on the books but no. they are coming up in defenses in cases for example if a husband is accused of domestic violence he will say no, i a right to, because my wife is my property, he has a right to beat her. or you have seen the honor killings. this is prevalent, happening in this country and we are coming up with legal opinions to defeat it to say that shiria law does not apply in this land. specifically in tennessee, republican representative rick womack declared that shariah is not just expression of faith but a political and legal system that seeks world domination. >> andrea: it's scary. we shouldn't have to discuss this, because you point out we have in the constitution provisions to protect us against this. looking to shariah law in our own courtroom is like looking to soviet law in a divorce case in the united states. it makes no sense.

if a judge squeaks in by appointment, you have crazy judges now, like in the case in new jersey where i believe the man's defense was oh, i didn't know that raping my wife was illegal in this country or something else. claiming ignorance on our laws. the state want to implement provisions banning shariah law. go for it. >> bob: i was beat up by my wife. i had no protections at all. she was a professional golfer. scary thing at 2:00 in the morning. this is vastly overstated and becoming a political football. the case you cite in new jersey was overturned. basically every one has been overturned. the idea that the creeping shariah law -- i'll say this, greg, in difference to you because i love you so much. i will say the tea party, i will say not say the other thing for you, just for you. i won't, i won't. in a moment of anger i may have lashed out at the tea

party. the thing about the shariah law, the republicans are making a big deal out of all the muslims. >> kimberly: why should we have to draft a law to protect against it? >> bob: i don't think you do. >> kimberly: religious law and foreign law have no place in the american judicial system. >> bob: which is why they don't matt every. >> eric: they do matter because the muslim brotherhood said we need to destroy western civilization from within, ten years prior to the world trade center destroyed and 3,000 people being killed. we had a case in texas where a school district said they wanted to teach the kids arabic studies and everything around, like indoctrination of kids. the law had to step in and say no, the parents don't want them to do it there is a creep and more and more going on. if you like it or not, there are 100 mosques in new york city. thousands across the country. shariah law is taught inside the buildings. >> bob: so in most churchs they teach law of the

churches. true in jewish synagogue. >> eric: but most churching don't condone flogging, stoning, execution, cutting off a limb for stealing. it's radical. >> kimberly: wine drinking and alcohol drinking punishable by flogging. >> bob: i would haven't any skin left. >> kimberly: wait to the next one. unlawful sexual intercourse punished by flogging for unmarry odd fenders and stoning to death for adulterers. >> bob: i'm going to no muslim countries. >> andrea: you need a security team. >> bob: i need air support to get in and out of cairo. >> greg: i'm in the middle. i'm with bob and there is an exaggeration of the threat but there is a threat that bears observing. you have to see if the stuff keeps happening. but where is the left on this? they defend the idea of the cultural diversity and whatever is different is equal. what about this cultural diversity? where women are harmed.

they're antigay. where is the left? >> kimberly: daughters are murdered. >> greg: they call themselves feminists. >> kimberly: that is the problem there are no women's rights. if this isn't an issue, why has two dozen states taken measure to restrict judges from the indoctrination that we're talking about? >> bob: conservative states in the country. and hillary clinton raised the country about the muslim women over and over again she deserves credit. a progressive person. i don't denounce muslim or their mosques. >> go ahead. >> eric: didn't denounce muslims or their mosques, simply said in the muslim community and the mossing, shariah law is taught -- community and the mosque, shariah law is taught and some are extreme. >> kimberly: we're respectful of other religion practiced properly and today is first day of ramadan. all i'm saying.

>> bob: well done. >> kimberly: you may want to think twice the next time you post something on facebook. i'm serious. someone may be watching you. "the five" will continue next.

♪ ♪ >> greg: welcome back to "the five." welcome to a recent ftc ruling, companys can run social media background checks. so it could cost you a job. would you pass such scrutiny? i'm old so i'm safe. the people who should be scared are the kids two grew up cradled in the internet seeing it as a puffy cloud of ego gratification. now we have a generation where exhibition replaced inhibition. and selaciousness, not sense, engaged and lauded. yet, no one keeps anything in anymore. no thought is left unexpres unexpressed. no feeling held back. we have no more revelations because all has been revealed. when the 15-year-olds turn 22,

they will own an internet trail longer than bob beckel's rap sheet, that is long. now some call for internet amnesty, that once you are 18, your web history is erased. i'm against it only because if you tweeted how short i am, that should stain you forever. that is the sad truth. the internet is immortal. nothing on it ever dies. your errors will haunt you until your death. weiner's photo, woo tiger outif it and, of course, this. ♪ ♪ ♪ ymca ♪ it's fun to stay at the ym ymca ♪ ♪ >> greg: that is why i didn't dance. >> kimberly: you are a party pooper. >> greg: aren't you happy you were a crazy mad man before there were picture phones and documents? >> bob: i could no more jump through this thing. if they go through my closet

it's worse than boston pops at the fourth of july. i didn't know this. i didn't know my e-mails could be retrieved when you delete them. this is up believable. >> greg: everything you ever sent is floating above you. >> bob: then it will come raining down as bad stuff. i tell you, the idea when i read through the research on this, we do research, for me, i do a lot of it. the idea that they can keep this stuff and the cops can get to it, i mean it's just outrageous. violation of the first amendment rights. >> andrea: don't do bad things. i told you. >> bob: that is ridiculous. what if you want to do bad things that are not illegal. >> greg: if you owned a company, would you do social background checks? >> kimberly: i would. i'm a former prosecutor. love this. i love to get the bad guys, people out there committing crimes, child pornographers, get them, get them. i want all their stuff. i want search warrants. take all their information, their computer.

>> bob: do you think you can get through a social -- you have the crime stuff -- >> kimberly: yes, i can. >> bob: your personal, social life anything like that. >> kimberly: i'm very good there is a picture of me on facebook, like my fox head shot. >> greg: not everybody led your life, bob. >> bob: kimberly surprised me with that. >> andrea: this is government also hiding behind the companies. so if you are an internet service provider, think about the added cost. you have to hold all the data. if i'm a consumer and i hear that this company is doing these searches and holding my e-mails, you don't get mad at the government. you get mad at the company. but the government is hiding behind the companies and letting them do the dirty work. none of companies want to fight the government because they're scared. >> kimberly: you're right. ftc ruling, federal trade commission. basically, these companies can provide reports on individual online action by reviewing up to seven years. that is the thing, bob. >> greg: what do you think of the idea of internetm necessity, the you could be a

complete idiot for your young adult life and the giant eraser comes down? >> eric: not a bad idea. i don't like it when the teachers are friending, the 12-year-old. horrible idea. /agree with kimberly. fewer opportunities for pedophilia the better. but i am still in the twiter penalty box right now. i a very active facebook and twiter commenter there were a few things that slipped out i'm still trying to get my rights back. >> kimberly: do you say something very bad, eric? >> bob: very bad but okay about it. >> greg: you mentioned something about forbidding, governor jay nixson preventing teachers from friending students. >> eric: creepy. >> greg: i never had any relationship with my teacher outside the classroom. >> kimberly: i don't want a relationship with the teacher i just want a big fat "a," that's it. on my paper. >> greg: i never had that problem. >> bob: this, any teacher

that gets in a facebook relationship with any of the students in this day and age you're crazy. i had up with with my french teach cher is how i got out of college, but that was a different story. it was back then. different time. right now -- >> andrea: you were doing more than tweeting her. >> bob: i couldn't speak a word of french, but i still passed. >> greg: talking about school. drug testing. they drug test voluntarily in middle schools. >> bob: you know, it's sad. i wish i didn't have to be in favor of this. but i watched use of drugs, i'm a recovering addict. >> greg: really? i haven't heard that. >> bob: your twiter people have. i get it. i get it out the time. i tell you, used to be in college and the older people would be using drugs, then it moved to a high school level. now it's moving to the middle school level. it's dangerous. if it means we'll be able to do interdiction of this stuff early. >> eric: i a 12-year-old in middle school. i am all for this. this is random, as long as it's voluntary.

that part is voluntary. but also random drug test. they can say third in line, come over and do this. i'm for it. sign me up. >> andrea: the parents pay. >> kimberly: you have parental concept. that is built in. then parents have to agree to pay for any kind of treatment. this is legal. 2002. u.s. supreme court said the public schools could do this. they are doing it in middle school and high schools. i'm for it. >> bob: they should. sorry, go ahead. >> andrea: i agree with this, absolutely. but my fear is they have a hard enough time teaching students nowadays. now we have to turn schools in to healthcare facilities? what if the family is poor and can't afford this? >> bob: one thing about these things, it might scare kids away from using drugs, scare kids away from using drugs. believe me when i tell you every year you can get to them early in their addiction life, the better chance you've got to get them recovered. a tough job when you get a lot older. believe me, i've seen it. tougher people to get clean and sobe rer people who are middle age. the easiest ones are the

younger people. >> greg: the up side is i stock in dixie cup so i'm the real winner here. >> kimberly: glad we came full circle on that. glad it works out. good talk. >> greg: we have to take a break. the four-legged fundraise they're brought in big bucks for cancer. a great story you don't want to miss next on "the five." ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> eric: made up a new dance. welcome back to "the five." with the back and forth over the debt debate and whether wealthy americans should pay higher taxes we thought it would be fun to hear from matt damon. take a listen. >> it's criminal.

so it will is asked of people get something much. i don't mind paying more. i don't mind paying more taxes. greatest country in the world. that much wealth you can pay more in taxes. give me a break. look at what you get for it. you get to be american. >> eric: both of the beautiful women -- sit down. both of the beautiful women on the panel want to weigh in on matt damon. >> kimberly: i was a matt damon fan. i loved his movie but i'm not in love with the comments. he is patriotic. his politics are different. it had a dream about matt damon the other night. he disappointed me then. i wanted him to save me and all he did was hand me the knife. >> bob: i'm sure that's exactly what you wanted. >> andrea: they shaved his hair off and took his brain with it. it's true. >> greg: i can't believe i'm defending him but they asked him the question. it wasn't like he was pontificating, they asked what he thought. the fact that he lives in a

bubble. what he does for a living has no relationship to the actual economy. he doesn't know what it's like. >> eric: let mim pay more. right? knock yourself out. send in money. you stood up clapping, we know where you are on this. we have to get to this. check out the dog. the dog, he is a golden, golden doodle, a golden retriever and poodle. he jumped in a half marathon and ran the rest of it. raised $17,000 for charity for a cancer charity. he's a good boy! he's a good boy! >> greg: make an important point, he has no idea he is raising money. i just want to put it out there. >> bob: who let the dogs out? you did, right? >> andrea: i like him better than matt damon. >> kimberly: cuter, too. this dog is adorable. the dog was able to get through and enter the marathon about the five-mile mark. the dog is like oh, yeah, keep up with me. oh, yeah. people were cheering. go dog, you're amazing.

the dog is yes. >> he raised $17,000. this dog was the little one of the litter, the runt that nobody wanted and now he is everybody's winner. stand up for dog, bob. >> bob: i'm a interrupt that nobody wants. >> eric: get this straight, you stood up for matt damon but not for the dog. >> bob: it's fine. i like he got it at five miles. remember the guy that jumped in front of the marathon in the olympics and ran in the stadium to get the cheers? the dog, wonderful story. i like it. >> greg: you've been on all fours. >> bob: a long time. nice story and deserves to be on "the five." the five -- >> andrea: you know the dog, though he didn't know he was raising money he was told there would be a frosty paw at the end. that's why he was running. >> eric: a good boy. do "the five" with me. >> bob: "the five." >> andrea: see how we