welcome to studio e live on this tuesday morning and pety, you were talking about that legal case. good thing we have a lawyer on retainer for the last three hours. >> good morning, the senate will be set to vote on the debt deal hours from now. it's expected to be on the president's desk just in the nick of time. >> that's exactly right and joining us live from washington, d.c., she's in the bureau up and at em already, molly henneberg. all right, molly. yesterday was rough and tumble on capitol hill. a lot of arm twisting going on behind the scenes. what's going to happen today? >> good morning. the president and congress will likely agree to raise the borrowing limit today by a $400 billion and by $1.5 and $2 trillion over time. the true test is in the house controlled by republicans and it passed there yesterday. the top senate democrat suggested it should pass the senate this afternoon. >> we need to send this to president obama as soon as we can. it's been a long process.

i'm confident we did the right thing for the american people. the solution cuts the deficit now, lays groundwork for congress to do much better work in the months ahead. >> while it does appear there's enough bipartisan support in the senate to get it to the president to sign, one of the top tea party republicans in the senate intends to vote against it and suggests the $2 trillion in spending cuts and caps don't go far enough. >> we will still borrow $10 trillion or more in the next 10 years. we will still add a trillion dollars a year to our debt. we cannot call this a debt reduction bill. we can really not even call it a spending reduction bill. >> president obama had said that the still yet to be named special house, senate bipartisan panel set up by the legislation to look for more spending cuts could include some tax increases

as well. back to you guys in new york. >> it's always something. thank you very much with that live report from d.c. >> so now, joe biden we've told you over the course of the last couple of years sometimes says things where he puts his foot in his mouth. now it appears the latest one has to do with calling the tea partiers terrorists? he went on national tv last night and defended that statement and sort of turned it around and said that was the talk by other members of the democratic party when they were all meeting together in the last couple of days so here's how he clarified what he actually said. what happened was there were some people who said they felt like they were being held hostage by terrorists. i never said that they were terrorists or weren't terrorists. i just let them vent. >> let's back up a little bit and set the scene. there was this two hour meeting with the democratic caucus where they were all saying look, we can't vote for this, because you know, we're getting rolled by the republicans and there was a democrat from pennsylvania by the name of mike doyle. according to politico, they had

a couple of sources that said he said, mr. doyle said we have negotiated with terrorists. these small group of terrorists have made it impossible to spend any money and the same several sources said that mr. biden, the vice president responded. they have acted like terrorists. >> and the vice president in response has said i didn't say that they were. and i didn't say that they weren't. so we have a couple of competing versions. a, he said it. b, he didn't say it and overheard it but was silent in the face of others saying it. so what do you think of that? >> it wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have an administration who said let's tone down the rhetoric and had accused republicans in the past of the being ones that ratcheted it up. you have senator demint to reacted to biden's tea party comment. >> clearly, vice president biden and many here are not listening to what americans are saying and are trying to diminish what americans are saying, suggesting

this is part of one small group. >> it's become apparently an american epidemic and so when a vice president either says something like that or allows those comments to go forward without speaking out harshly about them, you pick up "the new york times" today and a columnist basically said that the tea party republicans have declared jihad -- >> huh? >> jihad on the country. >> right. he's got a column and the headline is the tea party's war on america. and a part of it, says much of the country has watched in horror as the tea party republicans have waged jihad on the american people. here's the thing. you have the guy in "the new york times" writing about jihad and stuff like that. and you've got joe biden either did or did not refer to them as terrorists. this is on exactly the same day that shortly before the votes started, there was a huge ovation in the house of representatives and a number of people there thought that the president of the united states

was actually there for the vote. turns out gabby giffords was there and she cast a vote, yes, to pass it. and given the fact that it was after she was shot point blank range there in tucson and the president of the united states called on people to bring down the rhetoric and yet, you look at what has happened in the last couple of weeks regarding the production and lifting up the debt ceiling and this kind of rhetoric, if it happened on the republican side, it's a big deal. >> it wasn't an exciting moment of american exceptionalism, gabby giffords shot in tucson returns to the halls of congress to cast a historic vote yesterday. at the same time, you read in "the new york times" again that the tea party was "trying to blow up america" so this kind of violent imagery in the wake of calls for bringing us together especially when we have a

bipartisan vote in the congress yesterday. that's wrong. i think. >> i was going to say something for a minute. i thought that seeing gabby giffords there was fantastic and i was in the middle of finishing dinner with my kids and my husband had just come home and i said wow. it stopped everything that was going on in the house to see this very valiant young woman, not so young anymore but young to me coming back and after being shot just eight months ago and thinking that it was so important for her to come and cast her vote. i'm sorry, she stole the show and for all the right reasons. that to me symbolized what america is all about. >> absolutely agree. it really brings a tear when you see that surely. incredible. >> it's just ironic on the day there was a terrorist talk, also apparently in that caucus, joe biden reportedly said according to sources in politico, these republicans have a gun to our head, you know, we've got to spend money that we don't -- make these big cuts and we didn't.

one other thing that joe biden apparently said, he is quoted as after he'd met with gabby giffords he said "i told her she's now a member of the cracked head club like me with two brain surgeries. it was so good to see her." >> it seemed to be a lot of reunions. michelle bachmann there with gabby giffords greeting each other warmly. it shows the collegiality that we can have going forward hopefully. >> great day. even though the debt deal will likely pass the senate, the u.s. economy may be headed for another recession. manufacturing down and the country's gdp is growing slower than expected. once again, stu varney is here with the good news. >> no, it sounds great to see you to break this down. a lot of people had said that looming in the background of this whole debt deal crisis was the fact that the economy still stinks. >> look, we just had two nasty shocks to the economic system. as you point out, gdp, the economy is barely growing.

then along comes manufacturing. barely growing. supposed to be robust. not happening. and you've got another shock coming on friday with this jobs report where we're going to see the unemployment rate well above 9% all over again. what i'm saying is a recession is now on the tanl. it's on the horizon. it's on the radar screen. it's looming out there in the future. it could happen. >> sure. >> and the -- look, the problem for me is what policy options do the obama administration have available? are they going to come up with a big, new stimulus plan? out of the question. not going to happen. house wouldn't let it happen. >> and is he going to roll back obama care? roll back financial reform? roll back e.p.a. regulations? he cannot do that. that would repudiate his presidency. man is in a corner. >> he certainly is. i was reading in a number of the financial publications on line yesterday that said we could be coming into a double dip recession. for millions of americans, we

never left the first had recession. >> that's what many americans are saying, when you look at the opinion polls, are we out of the last recession or still in it? how does it feel to you? it feels like we're still in that recession. you say the economy to most people and it means their job and their house. well, we still got a jobs crisis. we still have a housing crisismecrisis. we can't come out of them. >> when you talk about the double dip recession, let's explain that a little bit. what does that mean? does it mean you're punched, you're going down as you think you're coming up, you get punched again in the head and go down? is it just -- >> good imagery. >> is that what it is? i mean, is it even worse the second time around because you haven't recovered the first time? >> i'm going to steal that analogy. >> you can. you're the smartest guy in economics and i'd be proud to have you steal it. >> technically, a recession is where you got six months where the economy shrinks, ok. we did have that. we came out of it and now are we

facing the double dip? an economy where the economy shrinks again for six months? it's on the horizon. that will be a double dip. >> when you say the president is in a corner, he's kind of put himself in a box. >> his own corner. >> because he will not consider tax reductions. he would not consider tax measures and only look at spending. >> he can't. he cannot repudiate the first two years of his presidency. he can't roll back obama care. how could he do such a thing? at the same time, he can't double down with a big trillion dollar stimulus plan. >> he could have rolled back obama care in this whole debt discussion and could have acquiesced to get rid of the whole debt debate under the cover of the republicans demanding it. we'll watch your show at 9:20 on the fox business network. thanks, stu. now the other stories making news this morning. her body was found a quarter

mile from her home. they held a candlelight vigil to remember the life of the little girl that disappeared last week. >> we have brought celina home, not the way we wanted to bring her home. >> police calling her death suspicious but there are no suspects at this time. >> new video into our newsroom from afghanistan where a homicide bomber blew up outside a hotel room. a two-hour shootout with afghan police and at least four afghan guards were killed, 10 others hurt. the taliban, as usual, claiming responsibility. casey anthony who has been hiding out since being released from jail a few weeks ago ordered to return to orange county, florida, within 72 hours to serve probation. she's on one year probation for check fraud. her lawyers insist the probation was served in jail but the judge says probation starts after her release. anthony found not guilty of

killing her 2-year-old daughter caylee hasn't been seen since being released two weeks ago. they were hailed as heroes for saving a woman from a burning car wreck in 2009. now they are suing the victim for $25,000 claiming the crash was her fault and they both suffered permanent disabling injury rescuing her. theresa tanner told ohio police she got into a fight before the crash and wanted to commit suicide and those are your headlines. >> that's a crazy story. all right. straight ahead on this tuesday morning, some christians not happy when the president of the united states did not issue an official easter proclamation so what will they think about a white house proclamation that's just come out for ramadan? >> and then if the debt deal goes through, who gets to wave the victory flag? the tea party? nope. dick morris says the white house. almost tastes like one of jack's als.

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that includes spending cuts and no tax hikes. watch this. >> there's no balance, there's no revenues. god forbid that we would ask the millionaires and billionaires to pay anything toward further supporting our country. >> so will this cost president obama votes in 2012 or will he gain them? let's ask former advisor to bill clinton and the author of "revolt" dick morris. good morning you to you, dick. >> good morning. i want to correct your friend peter there. i do not think the white house won this fight. i think the white house got clobbered. i think the tea party emerged victorious in this fight. >> ok, so that is your perspective and it's an interesting one because if you look at the deal, it's exactly what john boehner put forth in the house a couple of days earlier but some people are saying that the lynch pin in this was the fact that obama got them to extend this past the 2012 election so he doesn't have to revisit this issue. do you not think that was a huge victory for the president as far

as re-election goes? >> no. i think that he'll have to revisit these issues morning, noon and night between now and election day. they set up this panel that's going to make recommendations. the recommendations of that panel are dominate october, november and december and then if the panel recommendations are not implemented and there is no spending cut going on and they suspend the automatic trigger of other cuts, then i think the republicans may pass a continuing resolution instead of a budget and we could have budget brinksmanship in january and february as well. so i think that obama is -- there are three cards the republicans had to play, the continuing resolution. the debt deal, they scored beautifully on that. and now the budget for next year. and that will put obama right back in the soup. >> all right. so let me ask you this. some people are also saying, obviously every election is determined by the independents now and maybe the president was

able to win back over the moderates or independents because he did not go for those tax hikes. what do you think about that? >> no, i mean, i think there's a difference between compromise and surrender and i think the voters clearly understand that. when bill clinton faced the congress in 1995 and 1996, his popularity from the beginning of the budget fight until the end grows in my polling by 15 points. well, gallup has obama at 55 in may and at 40 now. it's 15 points but it's the other direction. what i think he did do and you said it in the intro, gretchen, is i think that he did really alienate the left. and, you know, the right will vote against obama will its hands. the left will vote with its feet. by staying home and not coming out to vote. >> that's interesting because a lot of people say well, where else is the left going to go? they're going to vote for obama. if they don't go vote at all, that's an interesting analysis. stick around. i want to talk more about the

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>> all right. now time for some quick headlines. the f.b.i. thinks the hijacker d.b. cooper died of natural causes 10 years ago. apparently, fingerprints testing on items belonging to the man were inconclusive. the f.b.i. is still looking at

cigarette butts the suspect may have smoked on board the hijacked plane. when were they smoking on airplanes? and starting today, the tsa will begin training agents at boston's logan airport in a new screening process. they're learning interrogation techniques designed to root out suspicious behavior. logan is the first airport in the country to try the system. now back to our friends, peter and gretchen and dick. >> good show. the trigger mechanism in the debt deal is supposed to make sure congress really cuts back on out of control government spending but can it be enforce ed? >> dick morris doesn't think so and rejoins us with his own solution. what do you make of this? because the triggers were supposed to make sure that this 12-member committee actually does something because they don't want to face the triggers of cuts to medicare or cuts to defense. >> yeah, i mean, the only thing that binds congress is a constitutional amendment.

what one congress passes, the other can override. for example, one of the so-called triggers that this deal says will take effect if the spending cuts are not made is the payments to medicare providers, to doctors would be cut. well, that's been on the statute books for six years and for six years, the 6% annual cuts have been canceled by congress and has a 36% cut looming on the table. what they -- they can just repeal those triggers. i think that the key is that on september 30th when this fiscal year expires, congress should not pass a budget but instead the house should pass continuing resolutions to keep the government open until january 1st and then use that to hold obama's feet to the fire to make sure that the cuts really take place. we have one more piece of leverage and we have to use it that way. >> what you're saying is we need kind of belt and suspenders here, dick, what's being passed

now is not really sufficient to protect the interests of americans. >> i think that's true. i also think that the concern about defense spending in this package has to be put into perspective. we are scheduled to spend at the current estimates $7 trillion on national defense over the next decade. the cut they're talking about is a maximum of up to $350 billion. a 5% cut. i think that, you know, get over it. and there's plenty of -- there's plenty of fat in the pentagon budget that can be cut without really getting -- >> let me go back to this trigger thing because it was my understanding there would be no loopholes in this part of it as there has been in the past. is that -- are you saying that there would be a loophole? that they would be able to sort of say that they were going to do these cuts and the president would say no, i'm not? >> the congress could say no, we're not. let's say they're deadlocked and

can't agree with a cut and come out with a recommendation and either house rejects it. at that point, the automatic triggers kick in automatically, you cut medicare. you cut defense. you cut programs near and dear to both parties' heart and they cowher away and then acquiesce to the cuts. they don't have to do that. they can pass a law saying there's no more commission and we don't have to listen to what we have to say. >> the american public would absolutely go into revolt not to mention your book does. >> we'll see. i think the way to enforce it is not because those cuts are not going to be popular. it will be popular to block those cuts. i think the way to do it is to say we are not going to approve additional spending in the federal budget for 2011 and 2012 until you keep the promise you made last year. >> interesting. we'll see if they listen to your advice, dick morris. >> thanks for joining us as usual. >> thank you, friends. >> some christians not thrilled the president did not issue an

official proclamation for easter. so what will they think about a white house proclamation for ramadan? >> and the government ordering companies to comp birth control for women. is this any of the government's business or is it a good use of money? >> and then surprise, a family road trip disrupted. uh-oh! when a snake slithers up the windshield. the husband and wife that were behind the wheel are here next to tell their story. k9 advantix ii.

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i still blame bush? >> funny and true. speaking of the president of the united states, the white house yesterday issued an absolutely lovely statement regarding ramadan which is, of course, the holy month in the muslim world. it started yesterday. it was also announced that the president will also host the breaking of the fast that occurs after sunset. >> ok. and then some people said that they might have an issue with the fact that he didn't issue a proclamation for easter. so some people are saying is this an outreach to the muslim world? why isn't there an outreach to the christian world? this is the statement from the president on ramadan. times like this remind us of the lessons of great faith that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. >> the white house historically has white house easter egg roll but didn't issue an official proclamation like they did for ramadan right now. there's the president with the easter bunny screen right.

i think he did mention briefly in his weekend address that weekend easter in passing but still, nothing big. it is christianity's holiest holiday. >> i think this coming easter, you'll see a statement. >> during the election year? >> coming out of the white house. clearly, it was a terrible, terrible error and i guess statements are made every year with regard to ramadan and a dinner is held, i think the previous presidents as well. but i mean, you know, the white house blew it with regard to easter. >> well, they did issue an eight paragraph, i believe, statement on earth day. >> crisis averted. >> didn't quite make up for that. >> not exactly. all right, meanwhile, we have headlines for you on this tuesday. a key witness in the brutal beating of san francisco giants fan bryan stow died suddenly on sunday. he apparently died from an allergic reaction to peanuts in a salad. it's unclear how this will

affect the prosecution's case against the two suspects, louie sanchez and another are both charged with assault and mayhem. stow remains hospitalized with brain damage. >> women covered by private insurance will soon be able to fill their birth control prescriptions for free. starting in august 2012, insurers will be required to cover the full cost of family planning. supporters say this marks a milestone in women's health care. peter? >> and residents who pay some of the highest property taxs in the nation voted not to use millions in taxpayer funds to pay for a new hockey arena. they rejected the referendum last night in new york but not without a fight. >> i live here in nassau county, i don't want to see us lose the only thing to bring people from other counties to spend their money here. >> we're not idiots. we want to look up on the internet and say what's the deal with $14 billion in debt we'll

incur. >> the move could have raised property taxes close to $60 per year for 30 years. >> meanwhile, a poor pooch forced to suffer in the hot miami weather wedged underneath this car for hours. apparently, get this, the reason he couldn't get out, the collar apparently got caught near the engine. fire crews used the carjack to get him out. the dog escaped with cuts, bruises and a little dehydrated but he is fine today. meanwhile, let's find out where it's raining and where it is dry. and as you can see, we've got some thunderstorms moving through portions of the northern plains right now. also into the great lake states affecting our friends in wisconsin and michigan. a little action overnight in portions of the new england states and in particular maine but right now, things are nice and dry. the current temperatures as you head out the door on this tuesday, in raleigh-durham around there, room temperature at 72. meanwhile, kansas city and dallas both at 87. 70's and 80's pretty much across

the entire board except 50's and 60's way out west. later on today, it's going to be another hot one. it's just going to take about five minutes to completely melt a popsicle in memphis. we'll top out at 100. it will be 105 in kansas city. dallas will be 109 and it looks as if the high today in new york city, 92 and the chilliest spot on that map is caribou, maine. and that's your fox travelcast. >> meanwhile, a family gets a scary surprise when a stranger hitchhikes a ride on their suv. >> this is a water moccasin, a huge water moccasin in our car. outside of our car. >> oh, man! rachel and tony fisher join us right now live from memphis with the very latest. ok, so a couple of days ago, there you are driving down sam

cooper highway and rachel, i think you're the first one who noticed there wasn't a snake on a plane, there was a snake on the windshield! >> on the windshield! yeah. it was crazy. my husband said look, i think it's a snake! i think it's a snake! so i look over and sure enough there's a snake that starts coming up on top of our windshield and on the rearview mirror. it was crazy. >> ok, let me ask a dumb question. where did the snake come from, tony? >> well, we were -- we were parked at our in-laws overnight. >> sure, blame your in-laws! >> you know, that's how it works, you know, they're already mad at us. we'll keep running down that road. but they're surrounded by woods and it was -- it must have just crawled up in the middle of the night and gotten in there. when we got up in the morning to take off, it had fine a new little home. so it was interesting. >> what people cannot see, we can see rachel driving. and tony, you seem to be having

the best time watching your wife drive with the snake on the windshield. you are laughing like crazy. >> yeah. look at -- i'm not having to drive first off so that was good and it's just -- you know, i've been telling everybody, we've got three kids under 3 so any time anything happens, we just pull the phone out until i started videoing it. it was so bizarre, the only thing you could do is laugh. you're laughing and the kids are screaming in the background. >> the kids are screaming not because there's a snake in the car but they want you to turn around and take a picture of them. >> that's exactly right. that's how it always works. >> you're driving and it looks like you're going 60, 70 miles an hour right here. my goodness, look at this. going very fast. what is your motive here? are you trying to go so fast that the snake will fly off? >> no, i was trying to keep up with traffic at the beginning. i mean, i was just trying to drive as normally as possible and keep on the road and, you know, not slam on my brakes or

anything so i'm trying to go just like i had been going, just as normally as possible. >> but eventually you would get to where you're going, how -- what was your plan to get out of the car with the snake on the outside? >> i don't know. i mean, it was on there long enough to where both of us were like how are we going to get out of the car? i don't know. it was on my side of the door, am i going to have to climb over and get out that way? i mean, i don't know. it was going to be interesting. >> as we look at this video right now, tony, i'm surprised that you didn't tell your wife, hey, hit the wiper button and that thing is going to go flying into the convertible driving by next door. >> i know! i know! that's what everybody has been saying. hit the wiper blades. we were having fun with it, man, i mean, we were just -- i was videoing it and we wanted to get as much of it as we possibly could and it was just crazy. it didn't even cross our minds to turn on the windshield wipeers. didn't even cross our minds. we literally were thinking -- >> rachel, what is the moral of the story for our many viewers

today who find themselves driving to work or some place on vacation and suddenly, they find a snake on your windshield, what should they do? >> you know, just keep calm and carry on! you know, i don't know. just get your camera and make sure you document it and just try to stay as straight and safe as possible, you know, from the expert, i guess. >> job well done. >> i know the side windows were closed. was the sunroof closed as well? >> yeah, we don't have one in that car. >> why would you have a moon roof? come on. >> i guess so. >> that's hilarious video and we're glad that you are able to share that with us today. rachel and tony fisher joining us today from memphis, thank you very much. >> thanks. >> that's great. if you were driving down the road and there was a snake on the front of your car, how would you get it off? wiper or something else? e-mail us friends at foxnews.com. gretch, peter, over to you. >> thank you very much, i'd be

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seco perception of women i italy. did they play role in her conviction? >> i would say that the first significant thing that played a role in her conviction is cultural misunderstanding between the italian police who were investigating the case and this young woman who comes from, you know, the west coast of the united states. is an athlete. kind of a hippie. & they didn't know what to make of her and she was one of the first on the scene where the body was found of her roommate. the italians lawyered up immediately before they got to the police station, they had lawyers. and this young woman and her boyfriend kept tripping into the police station. the boyfriend even carried his pocketknife in and out of the police station for four days before they arrested them and so i think a lot of it had to do with the italian misunderstanding of this young woman. she was so different from the way young italian women are

supposed to behave. >> but maybe acting innocent. i mean, if you bring a pocketknife into the police station for four days, in american society, that might be looked at, why would a criminal do that? the interesting thing is that you moved with your whole family over to this small town in italy where this happened for 10 months. why was it so important for you to live the culture? e>> well, in order to do this story properly, i think, we had to understand the italian attitudes towards women and towards, you know, the judicial system there which is very obscure. it doesn't have a public face the way our system does. and, you know, there are other countries that are very different from america. and in order to kind of understand how things operate there, i think you have to transplant yourself and they have the lowest level of press freedom in western europe so there are a lot of issues with that as well and that's kind of

why the case was covered the way it was. >> now, amanda knox's attorneys called this a monumental injustice. let's watch what they had to say with regard to this and then you can comment. >> as we look at the evidence now, the only way you can accurately characterize it, it's absence, inaccurate, inconclusive, likely contaminated, unreliable and certainly not persuasive. there's no significant evidence of any sort that demonstrates beyond a reasonable doubt that amanda knox was involved in this tragic matter. this is a monumental wrongful conviction. >> do you agree with that in your research? >> i think yes, i went over there thinking she might be guilty and i didn't find any evidence that backed up the case that they had made. >> so now with this d.n.a. evidence, they're showing that she had no d.n.a. evidence at the scene. do you think that they'll change the conviction? >> well, it's on appeal and it's looking like the public

sentiment has changed over there but it really is going to be up to the authorities to back off and they have shown no signs of wanting to do that. >> right. very interesting book. thanks so much for being here. >> nice to see you. >> coming up, major recall. more than one million american made trucks, are they at risk of blowing up? >> then lawmakers want to use those triggers we've been telling you about to cut the spending. are those even legal? judge napolitano with an interesting perspective on how this could all play out.

>> final vote on the debt deal could be hours away in the senate right now. is this deal even legal and could it actually be enforced? >> joining us is fox news judicial analyst and host of "freedom watch" on the fox business channel, judge andrew napolitano. >> good morning, guys. >> as you look at this, you're worried that part might not be legal. >> i am. what i heard dick morris say to you earlier in my view is 100% correct. that is if a bureaucrat does not pull the trigger, if some unelected faceless, unnamed, unknown individual doesn't decide that it is time for the trigger to happen, then nothing will happen unless a member of congress goes to courted and sues. >> what do you mean? we're gonna know who is on the committee and who votes up and down. >> but it is a bureaucrat. not a member of congress who decides whether or not the so-called trigger should be pulled. why? >> who would that be? >> it would be someone in the congressional budget office because no member of congress will have the courage to say ok, there's no decision, it's time

to cut social security, to cut defense and to cut medicare. because they don't want to make decisions and a constitutionally questionable procedure when the congress gives away its authority to some other entity and then the committee comes up with an idea and congress can't debate it and congress can't amendment it. congress can only vote yes or no on it. the filibuster rule is gone in the senate so congress is materially changing the way the constitution intended for congress to work and that's what's questionable. >> you know what, judge? the congress has already done this. this is based on the bates realignment commission. it's a joint commission of congress. simple vote up or down. we've done it in the past. why would this be different? >> this will be different because we're not talking to an area of specialty like where do we need military base? we're not talking about the e.p.a. writing a regulationn to keep the air clean or the f.d.a.

writing a regulation to keep toothpaste pure. we're talking about spending money. only the congress can spend money. not a committee of the congress and not an unknown or unnamed bureaucrat but the congress itself. these people lack the intestinal fortitude, the courage, if kilmeade were here, i'd use another word to make a tough decision so they kick the ball into the hands of a committee. >> let's listen to the spokesperson for the president because he was telling people yesterday that it's definitely an incentive to act the trigger. >> they are designed precisely to incentivize congress to act. either the committee fails or congress rejects the committee's product is it will ensure that significant deficit reduction is enacted anyway. either way, you'll have significant deficit reduction. >> if the president -- if a president asks for the second part of borrowing, you know he's going to ask for it. congress can only stop him with

a 2/3 vote. >> that has never happened before in history! congress makes its decisions by a simple majority vote. >> and they're voting their disapproval and not their approval. >> exactly. so what's happening here? we have a congress afraid to make decisions and we have a congress more interested in the nonsense that if we don't borrow, we're going to go into debt. we have a congress that has just postponed the inevitable which is either bankruptcy or a severe reduction in government services and then the streets will look like athens. >> do you actually believe that members of congress would not act with the public this much in tune with what's going on now and during the last midterm elections, they voted in people they actually wanted to act? i just find it unbelievable that not one member of congress would pull the trigger, no pun intended to move this process forward. >> a member of congress cannot pull the trigger. it has to be someone executive branch of the government or someone in the congressional budget office to pull the trigger. you see, congress is and this is an anomaly, gretchen, giving

away authority. usually congress wants power. wants to regulate things the constitution doesn't let it do but when it's afraid that its regulations will cause it to lose members or lose popularity, it gives the power away to a faceless committee! >> all right, judge andrew napolitano, thank you very much for dropping by the curvy couch on this tuesday. >> where is kilmeade, by the way. >> he's far away. >> we'll catch you at 8:00 on fox business network. speaker boehner refused tax hikes as part of any deal. it turns out could they get passed in anyway? >> and "the new york post" couldn't have said it better. a worker makes one tough call. calling the cops while holding a crook in a head lock. it's true. [ male announcer ] summer is here.

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>> you're watching "fox & friends", the number one morning cable news show in america. >> thanks very much, colonel hunt and we'd like to welcome peter johnson to the set today. brian is taking a little time off. >> well deserved. great to have you, thank you. >> lot of headlines to get to. we start with the fox news alert. update on the norway suspect anders breivik listing demands for his cooperation now. he wants the norweigian government tossed out and he's demanding to be evaluated only by japanese psychiatrists. he's confessed to the bombing and shooting rampage that left 77 people dead. new video overnight from jackson, michigan where former detroit mayor kwami kilpatrick has been released from prison. he was there for violate probation in the cover-up to an affair. he said he's beginning anew and heads to texas to reunite with his family.

an autopsy scheduled today for 11-year-old celina cass. her body found in the connecticut river a quarter mile from her home in new hampshire. >> dive teams were sent in and celina's body was recovered. we have bought celina home, not the way we wanted to bring her home. >> friends held a candlelight vigil to remember the life of the little girl who disappeared monday night. police calling her death suspicious. but there are no suspects at this time. a very special moment on the house floor during the debt vote. >> congresswoman gabrielle giffords of arizona returned to the house for theirst time since being shot in the head in january. to cast a vote in support of the debt plan. giffords given a standing ovation by her colleagues. vice president joe biden spoke with her and said this "i told her she's now a member of the cracked head club like me with

two craniotomies. it was so good to see her." biden has had two brain aneurysms and survived both of those. >> straight ahead, the u.s. senate set to vote on the debt compromise deal today and send it to the president for his signature before midnight trying to avoid default. molly henneberg is live in washington, d.c. with the very latest. molly, it's a foregone conclusion the senate is probably going to pass this but nonetheless, the meter is running. >> certainly is. as the day ticks down. good morning, steve, gretchen and peter. it appears president obama should get out his bill signing pen. he may need it sometime after around noon today to sign new legislation raising the nation's debt ceiling. the house voted 259-161 to pass, to raise america's borrowing limit. immediately $400 billion and then by another $1.5 to $2

trillion over time. while the top senate democrat wasn't making any promises, he suggests that the bill should pass the senate. >> i'm a long time member of congress. and i never count my votes until they're cast. so i'm hopeful but know that the republicans are going to have to produce some votes and we're going to have to produce some votes and i'm not here to declare victory. we have to get this thing passed. >> while it does appear that there is enough bipartisan support in the senate to get it to the president to sign, one of the top tea party republicans in the senate intends to vote against it. and suggests that the $2 trillion in spending cuts and spending caps don't go far enough. >> we will still borrow $10 trillion or more in the next 10 years. we will still add a trillion dollars a year to our debt. we cannot call this a debt reduction bill. we can really not even call it a

spending reduction bill. >> president obama has said that the still yet to be named special house, senate bipartisan committee set up by the legislation for more spending cuts could include some tax increases as well. back to you all in new york. >> we're going to be talking about those in a couple of minutes. thanks very much for that report. >> all right. there's a piece in politico right now that talks a little bit about what has happened behind the scenes getting to where we are today. with the debt reduction and the debt ceiling extension. and apparently they've talked to a whole bunch of people that have been in the rooms over the past couple of weeks and portrayed joe biden as one of the go to guys that made this happen and mitch mcconnell as well and it's interesting, it came down to 4:00 on sunday afternoon and there was one issue that the democrats would not budge on. they wanted big cuts to the pentagon budget in the event that they actually had to pull

that trigger. mitch mcconnell came up with the idea, let's redefine defense cuts. let's not call it defense cuts but call them security cuts. that way it would include not only the pentagon but also the department of homeland security, veterans affairs and foreign aid as well. and once they did that, they had a deal. >> it's kind of an interesting glimpse into what was going on the so-called ticktock, minute by minute in terms of coming to the compromise and clearly, the white house or at least vice president biden are trying to put him out as the hero of the day. the story also points out that the meetings with the president had become what the republicans staffers were calling "joke meetings" and president obama's lectures and in the end, apparently, vice president biden made the argument to the democrats that the defense cuts, the automatic defense cuts would be the best way to get the republicans later to close corporate tax loopholes because

they wouldn't want to sustain those heavy defense cuts later on. >> but i think this points out how important experience is on capitol hill. we've talked a hot about the tea party freshmen and bringing a new breath of air and that's important as well. but this goes to show that a 25-year-old friendship is significant on capitol hill. between mitch mcconnell and joe biden. and you got to wonder how significant it was that president obama had joe biden there because it wasn't getting done with the president of the united states. it's very interesting to see what was going on between old friendships. still, senator lindsay graham says that he's not going to vote for this thing today at noontime, eastern standard time because he still remains very concerned, no matter what you call it, about those defense cuts. >> our nation is facing threats i can't even tell you about in full detail. this is not the time to put the defense budget on the table for cuts disproportionate with the other parts of the government and at the end of the day, i'm

going to try everything i can to unravel this deal. >> ultimately, though, at the end of the day, it's probably going to pass. joining us right now is john bolton, fox news contributor and former united states ambassador to the united nations and he joins us from the d.c. bureau. i know that you've got the senator, he is very concerned about these defense or security cuts or whatever you want to call them and so are you you. >> well, this is a catastrophic risk to our security capabilities. there's going to be about 300 to $350 billion of cuts in the first crunch added to $400 billion that obama has already ordered in the first 2 1/2 years of his administration. followed by the prospect of between $500 to $600 billion more cuts in the second part. this is debilitating at a time when we have enormous challenges around the world and let me just say, adding in these other accounts isn't going to make that much difference. do you think the veterans account is really going to be

cut? i don't mind cutting the foreign aid account but it's tiny compared to the defense department. and it's no tradeoff to me to say, well, we'll reduce homeland security so we don't reduce defense. this is a bad deal. >> i know, mr. ambassador, what you'd like to point out is there's a huge difference in your mind between the department of defense and making cuts there as opposed to the department of agriculture, the department of interior, why? >> this is not about bean counting. this is about american brands strategy in a perilous world. and the idea that all these numbers up on a wall somehow are fungable somehow misperceives what the basic role of government is, which is to protect us in the international environment. the best thing i've heard from the proponents of the deal is after the 2012 election, we can ignore all of this which suggests that the real issue here is how those elections go and much of the debate we've seen in the past month has been

blue smoke and mirrors. that's the best news. >> ambassador, under the worst case scenario. worst case scenario, what percentage of the defense budget would be cut as a part of this deal? >> over 15%. and, you know, that is a huge cut when you consider especially the impact on weapon systems procurement. i think every indication is people will try to protect military salaries. i certainly support that. but that means that the cuts fall even more disproportionately on new weapons systems to deter and dissuade other powers like china, north korea and iran from challenging us. >> sure, in your estimation, would it be better to work on what, you know, the so-called entitlements, figuring out how to fix social security and medicare going forward so that it's there for people who are going to need it? >> well, i think that has to be part of it and that's why i think honestly in this deal

although i vote in favor of it to avoid the disaster of a default on the debt today. we've simply postponed the problem and transferred the risk from default on the debt to default on our national security. >> wow. >> good point. >> can't say it any better than that. we'll leave it there. ambassador john bolton, great to get your thoughts. see you again soon. >> thank you. >> say it ain't so, joe. is vice president biden trying to back track on comments comparing tea partiers to terrorist? we'll ask the senator who says he's an original tea party member, orrin hatch next. >> plus "the new york post" couldn't have said it better. a worker makes one tough call. he's on the phone with cops while holding a crook in a headlock. talk about multitasking! coming up. [ female announcer ] kiss everything you know about cookies goodby

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♪ because your moment is now. let nothing stand in your way. learn more at keller.edu. >> the u.s. senate set to take up the debt debate later today at noon but our next guest says he will vote no. >> that is utah republican senator and ranking member of the senate finance committee, orrin hatch and he's our guest right now. good morning to you, senator. >> good morning to you, gretchen. how are you? >> i'm doing just fine. thank you for being our guest. why is it going to be a no for you today? >> well, actually, you know, i

want to compliment both speaker boehner and the minority leader, mitch mcconnell. i think they did the best they could under the circumstances. however, i committed this year to not vote for this type of a thing unless we get a balanced budget constitutional amendment passed so i'm living up to my vote but i have to say that, you know, it's so difficult to get the democrats to do anything around here but this was a victory of sorts because they at least held the line on tax increases and there are some cuts and, of course, we'll have to see what happens with the special joint committee but it was a step in the right direction. and i think -- i think most people would agree it's a step in the right direction but i have to live up to what i said i would do. >> you do and, of course, you're running for re-election, i presume, coming up although you could have a primary challenge with jason chavis who is one of the cut, cap and balance architects in the house but if

you talk about the balanced budget amendment, it's in this deal where it's going to be voted on by both chambers. no earlier than october 1st and no later than the end of the year. >> people on the cut, cap and balance approach and that means we want to cut spending. we want to cap spending and we want to pass a balanced budget amendment. i'd like to do that. i've led every balanced budged amendment fight since i've been here. one came close to passing. we had 66 votes but we needed 67. this time we can be close to doing it. >> as more and more people are look more details into this deal, one thing that people are talking about this morning is there could be implicit tax hikes in this deal with the committee not even having to act. what i'm talking about is the bush tax cut that will expire in 2013 and that adds up to $3.5 trillion in tax hikes over the

neck decade. is that something that would bother you and be another reason to vote no? >> that bothers me a little bit. there's no question the democrats want tax hikes so they can continue their spending program. that's how they cut themselves. they claim they're compassionate by spending your money and, you know, that's not compassion. that's just a way of, i think, interfering with jobs. i'm for job creators. i want to get jobs back and i think you can't do it with the spending practices of the democrats and if people in this country don't catch on to that, we're never going to get this country under control. and they want to increase taxes to they can spend more. >> certainly over the last couple of weeks, it has been a tense situation there. i'm sure you've heard that yesterday during the democrat caucus, they were trying to get votes on -- in the house, apparently mike doyle, a democrat from pennsylvania regarding -- referring to the tea party members said we have negotiated with terrorists. small group of terrorists have

made it impossible to spend any money. and then reportedly according to politico, the joe biden denies it kind of now, joe biden says they have acted like terrorists. the level of rancor and rhetoric has really gotten ugly. >> yeah, give me a break! those people don't have any arguments that really could fly in the face of what the democrats are doing and could fly in the face of what the republicans are doing. what do they do? they call people terrorists because they're trying to get the country under control. look, i think the tea party people deserve a lot of credit. we wouldn't be where we are without them. the fact of the matter is i've been a tea party person, i think, before the tea party came into existence. i was one of the earliest supporters of reagan and all i can say is it's nice to three that type of language around but the tea party people who have helped to bring about a change where they're not going to increase taxes on this particular approach. and yeah, the new joint

committee could increase taxes but i don't believe that any republican on there is going to want to increase taxes. it's that simple. >> senator, if you knew that your vote was going to be the deciding vote in the senate as to whether or not this debt deal would go through, would you still be a no? >> well, i hope i won't be the deciding vote. the fact of the matter is that i've said that i won't vote, you know, won't vote for this type of approach unless -- unless we pass a balanced budget amendment. i'm going to live up to that. i think that's important that i live up to that. on the other hand, i recognize that this is a step in the right direction. i recognize that we've been able to stop the democrats' voe rashs demand for more and more taxes and one thing about this approach that i think speaker boehner and the minority leader mitch mcconnell has done is that they've required the congress to finally be a little more accountable and i think accountability is one of the most important things that we can do and i think job creation is up there with accountability.

>> absolutely. couple of steps? the right direction. orrin hatch, long time senator from the great state of utah. thank you very much for taking a little time out of your very busy day to join us here on "fox & friends." >> thank you. >> you bet. >> still to come on the show, store clerk's street justice. he chases a crook. puts him in a choke hold and still manages to dial 911. amazing photo. >> and he's got a grip, a firm grip on our control room. look at that. nfl great jerome bettis is here. i wonder who he's calling right now. maybe don's wife.  the stronger the rapids, the more we loved it.

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>> talk about multitasking. a worker at an auto parts store in new york hailed as a hero for

chasing down a shoplifter and then holding him in that headlock you see in that picture there even as he called the cops. that guy, nelson lazatta joining us on the phone. good morning to you, nelson! >> good morning. good morning. >> we have jerome bettis on the couch, too. >> you are a quick thinking guy. how were you able to do all those things at the same time? tell us what happened. >> it was just a basic instinct. i knew i had to catch him, you know. you know, i knew i had to catch him. once i grabbed him, i knew my first instinct was just to call the cops and try to hold him down until the cops came and that's exactly what i tried to do. you know, it happened. and -- >> and did he try to make off with what, an electric drill and a set of allen wrenches? and did he at some point say with a dirty syringe, i'm going to give you aids? >> yes, he did! >> wow. >> that would have been my clue to run away, nelson. what was it about your stamina

or your whatever, inner strength that said i'm still going after this guy? >> once i seen him run, i knew he was -- i knew he was guilty, basically. i knew he had what, you know, he had all the merchandise. i was also surrounded by a couple of my co-workers who, you know, were helping me at the same time and once we seen him go running, i guess it was just a basic instinct of getting him. >> jerome bettis, is that a penalty play or touchdown that you would say? >> that's a good headlock, nelson. that's pretty impressive headlock you got going on. the guy could barely breathe. >> no kidding. >> thanks, jerome. >> way to go, nelson. take down the bad guy with one arm behind your back. >> never thought you'd get a shoutout from jerome bettis, one of the best football players of all time. have a good day. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and jerome bettis is here and we've got a lot to talk about with you.

finally the lockout is over, right? >> finally. you know you think it was going to be a little bit longer than it turned out to be because there was some big issues that needed to be hashed out. a lot of money that was changing hands and they needed to make sure they got it right. >> sure, did you feel like the owners had you in a headlock for a little while? >> being a retired player, it wasn't the same type of scenario but, again, you knew -- you knew that when the owners acted out, it was going to be a big fight. >> let's talk about plaxico burress. a lot has been made of the fact that he's switching teams after getting out of jail. will he do a lot for the jets this season? >> i think he really is. i got a chance to talk to him right after he got out. he gave me a call and wanted to let me know he's a different person. he's changed and he's ready to go out there and really make amends for the mistakes that he made so i'm really expecting him to go out and play well. >> redemption is a big part of american life and do ball

players look at a guy different if he's coming out of prison or if he's coming out of some problem like that? do they look at him differently? do they say anything? what's the talk? >> the talk is to be more supportive. you want to make sure that you're supporting a teammate. you understand the situation that he's in, what he's been put through. you want to pick him up as much as you possibly can. >> today, you're wearing a dick's sporting goods store shirt, polo shirt. it's not that you have a part-time job there. >> no. >> you have teamed up with them for a great program. tell us a little bit about it. >> i teamed up with dick's sporting goods for a program called pace and it's protecting athletes through concussion education and the idea behind it is dick's wants to not only supply america's youth in terms of a sports retailer, they want to supply them with the educational tools to help from an education standpoint. >> doing what education wise? >> the key is, what they want to

do come in and teach concussion education to the coaches, to the medical staff, to the parents and to the kids. so what you do is there's three ways we can help this program. we can go to dickssportinggoods.com/pace to get the information. for every pair of shoes that we buy, dick's will give a dollar and it's a great program. also, if you go into the store and you check in at the store, they give a dollar or if you post on facebook or twitter about the pace program, they're going to give a dollar. they want to help impact a million kids. >> i have to tell you, jerome that this is a hot topic out in the suburbs and all across america amongst moms and dads when you have little kids like i do, the whole idea of whether or not you're going to let them play football and the number one thing is concussions so did you suffer them? i mean, i'm looking at the numbers here, 60% of all nfl players had at least one concussion. 26% had three or more. >> yeah. i had multiple concussions.

as a running back, i was a physical guy. it wasn't hard to miss me so i took a lot of shots to the head. >> occupational hazard. >> yeah, it was. >> it's so serious, i know some young kids who have had them. it's debilitating. they can't go to school. they can't look at a tv for months on end. >> i remember my brother had a concussion as a kid. we would go out and play in these little thin plastic giants and jets helmets and we would hit each other like heck out in the backyard. and tackle each other. and kids would just pass out for a few seconds. and then come back and we'd get up ok. you're not ok, right? >> you're not ok. and it was the same case when i was playing football, the educational part wasn't there. we didn't know that, you know, five, six concussions on the road, there may be some health issues, you're going to have to deal with. >> you're the perfect person to be talking about it. >> thank you. >> hats off to dick's and to you. thanks so much for being here. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> thanks, jerome. straight ahead, the government

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>> oopsy! >> let's do a couple of headlines for your tuesday. a key witness in the brutal beating of san francisco giants fan bryan stow died suddenly on sunday. he apparently died from an allergic reaction to peanuts in a salad. it's unclear how this will affect the prosecution's case now against the two suspects. louie sanchez and marvin norwood are both charged with assault and mayhem. stow, the guy you saw with his two young kids there, he remains hospitalized after all this time with brain damage. >> meanwhile, women covered by private health insurance will soon be able to fill their birth control prescriptions for free starting in august, 2012, insurers will be required to cover the full cost of family planning. supporters say this marks a milestone in women's health care. birth control opponents argue this is the government messing with god. >> and casey anthony who has been hiding out since being released from jail ordered to return to orange county,

florida, within 72 hours to serve probation. anthony is on one year probation for check fraud. her lawyers says that probation was served in jail. the judge says probation starts after the release. she was found not guilty of killing her daughter caylee hasn't been seen since being released from prison last month. >> meanwhile, tracking your teenager behind a wheel. general motors and on star unveiling a new pilot program that lets parents log on to a web site to track the location of their kids' car in real time. oh, man. that's cool. parents can also sign up for text messages or e-mail alerts. so when the kid comes home, you can sigh what were you doing at the dairy queen again? gretch, over to you. >> for now, it appears that the u.s. will avoid default, but the ramifications of washington's biggest battle are being felt by cities and businesses around the country. the unemployment rate is a dismal 9.2%.

and data shows the u.s. has a weaker economy than expected so what advice can these cities give to washington? joining me now is our panel of mayors, charlotte mayor anthony fox, boston mayor and fort lauderdale mayor jack sylar. good morning, mayors, plural. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> great to see all of you. i know mayor fox, you were both involved in a letter writing campaign to president obama and their state representatives urging them to get a debt deal done. mayor fox, why was it so important for you as a mayor of the city? >> several reasons, the possibility of the country going into default would have been calamatous to local economies. not only because the full faith and credit of the federal government would be as strong as it could be. but the uncertainty has been creating a lot of consternation in the business community. it helps us to resolve that

issue so we can get back to job growth. >> mayor, small businesses according to a recent study have generated 64% of net new jobs over the past 1 ayears. -- 15 years. was the debt crisis affect your ability in boston to be able to create new jobs through small business? >> no question about it. yesterday, i met with two you new businesses that want to come to boston with developers and they said we have to wait until we see what the congress does because we don't know where the resources will come to get the loans to go forward and how expensive the money will be. this was a death knell for our country if we didn't do something immediately because the whole financial situation and the deficit and i think just -- this is about people. i think they're lost in washington. how are we going to help people get through this? the social security check not coming, medicaid, medicare, for all those issues that are out there and i think what they did last night in the house is a beginning. it's not an end. i just say that, you know, the

president is not the best deal put together but it's a start and the congress that's going to put together in november and it's come up with a decision in january. it's going to be beginning of the budget. we know cuts have to be made. let's go forward. >> beginning with a lot to follow it up. mayor, i'm interested in knowing your perspective. sometimes people forget mayors of city, you have to balance your budget every year, don't you? >> absolutely, you know, we don't get to deficit spend. we have to set a budget at the start of the year and then we've got to live within our budget throughout the year and sometimes we have to tighten our belt midyear to make sure that the budget is met. so it's a little different approach that we take at the local government level but we're able to get it done just like in boston or charlotte, we live within our means. >> so mayor seiler, when you look at the situation in washington, do you just shake your head? i guess governors feel the same way where you have to know how

to balance your budget and your checkbook and you look at washington and say what the heck is going on there? >> it's just -- it's extremely frustrating and as the mayor said, you know, the deal had to get done because we've got a -- we've got to try to move this country forward. we've got to move our cities forward. we've got to start creating more jobs and you can't have that uncertainty hanging over everyone's head. now, i think, we can move forward and get some things done that will create more jobs and get this economy going. >> mayor fox, what advice would you give to the president or to members of congress right now? >> well, i don't think the president needs my advice. i think -- >> you never know! >> one of the things he really tried to do was to pull people together. you know, what i think we have to get away from is the politics of meism and focusing on the entire country and i think some of what we've seen over the last few weeks is everyone trying to win for themselves. and spiking the football. i think the country is waiting for the congress and the president to pull together and to focus on solutions for country. we still have to deal with

entitlements. we still have to deal with taxes going forward and i think the business community simply wants certainty. they want to know what the rules of the road are and once they know that, i think we can get back the job growth. >> all right, mayor fox, mayor seiler and menino, all different parts of the nation. they have to balance their budgets and they're glad this crisis seems to have been averted. thanks, mayors. >> thank you very much. >> thank you! >> go back to the guys on the couch. >> thanks very much, gretch. need help finding a job? stick around for the top five companies that are hiring this week. they could help you. >> then are dollars more dangerous than drugs? dr. keith ablow says all americans are wired to spend. it might be harder to quit than even smoking, he's going to tell us. >> wow. ♪

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>> welcome back, everyone. 1.1 million, that's how many trucks ford is remembering in the united states. gas tank straps could rust over time causing the tank to break, hit the ground and explode. next $180 million. that's the street value of 15,000 pounds of cocaine seized from a submarine headed for florida. colombian drug smugglers sank the sub when they were busted. finally the number one. princeton review ranking ohio state university the number one party school. in america. steve? >> thanks, fwrech. -- gretch. the drama surrounding the debt deal has put washington's addiction to spending our money in the spotlight in our next guest says most americans need a financial wake-up call as well. we're not talking to dave ramsey this time. we are talking to psychiatrist and fox news contributor dr.

keith ablow. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, how are you? >> fine, thank you very much. over the last couple of weeks, we've been watching washington do what we do as people and that is people avoid talking about money especially if it's not good news. >> absolutely. freud said it. he said look, people have a pleasure principle that operates. we tend to gravitate towards things that make us feel good. we tend to run away from things that make us feel bad and sadly, the idea that we're wealthier than we are, that we have more resources to deploy than we do makes us feel good. makes us feel rich. and we like it. >> we do like that. the pleasure principle, ok, so that's what we do in our personal lives and you say that's what washington has been doing as well. >> well, i think that's what washington has been doing and this has a kind of bad feedback loop because if you imagined a drug at least you have to use it. you have to go get it.

there are some barriers in the way. i think washington has an i.v. right in our veins and so they can keep the drug flowing so that we don't even know that we're high and intoxicated on cheap money which is a drug. >> sure. i don't know if they've got a needle in our arm but they certainly have got their hand in our purse and wallets as well. for folks who are watching this and if it sounds familiar, keith has got some tips on how you have to confront your financial fears. first, write down your assets and liabilities. have someone close to you and a professional take a look at them and project likely impact by future financial demands. that's sound advice, mr. ablow. >> well, what it does, steve, is it brings you back to reality. get an expert. look at things concretely down on paper. and then don't be so rosie as to think the future is always bright. look, hurdles come and we need to anticipate them. >> also, there are some risks if you don't confront your

financial fears. forget about, you know, washington. we were facing default as a nation for the first time. but on a personal level, here's some of the things. you'll become free to overspend. you'll have anxiety since you're lost financially and you won't be able to achieve financial success if you don't confront your fear. and in your business, doctor, that's what you always talk about. >> exactly right. listen, ultimately, steve, nobody can exist at a distance from the truth. the deficit and not dealing with it is the same as not dealing with a bad marriage. eventually, you end up in my office. >> well, do you have a couch that could seat 435 members of the house of representatives? >> or just have a seat for the doctor. >> the doctor was in today. live from boston, dr. keith ablow, thanks very much for joining us live. interesting stuff. >> take care. >> you bet. next up on the rundown, the top five companies ready to give you a job this week!

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>> every week here on "fox & friends", we're bringing you the top five companies hiring right now. so let's get right to it, steve. >> that's right, cheryl cassoni joins us from the fox business network. >> i have a lot of companies today. >> let's start with macy's. >> macy's, you know them.

american icon and two weeks on fox business, they are hiring. they are hiring here in new york in particular and they're also hiring out in san francisco, they're adding 260 jobs in the new york office. 300 in their san francisco office and then in other states as well. they need sales associates. they need folks that can do business, professional services, everything and this company used to be federated in 2007 and it became macy's. there were some store closings. the company had a great 2010. now, they're coming back. salary ranges from $25,000 all the way up to $100,000. big range. >> beautiful store. >> exactly. number team is the wireless company, the parent company is a german company but they have these new plans. everybody wants their mobile phones to be mobile. business travelers in particular want their mobile phones to be able to go across to other countries, they don't want to mess with changing countries, plans, they have a great new plan for that. anyway, they are hiring in their retail sales.

the former ceo really put in culture in this company. he used to run missionaries and you can't fire a volunteer. he has a philosophy that he left with t mobile that you've got to be able to work with what you have and encourage employees. a lot of people who work at t-mobile say they feel good about working with this company. >> of course, in the last year, we've passed gigantic health care reform in this country and we've seen health care companies reflect that in their hiring and united health care group is one of them. >> 75 million people worldwide are insured by this company and they've been really working on their technology. they want to -- they want doctors to be able to communicate with you via skype. via your ichat on your iphone or your mac computer. they're working on all of that. they need health care professionals, managers and people that can actually sell the insurance. agents. salary range $67,000 to $125,000. you can work from home and the

health care benefits are really good. shocker. >> i bet they are. they ought to be. >> siemans. >> i've talked about this company before. they have 3500 jobs they need to get filled in particular in their north carolina plant. i had the ceo on and he said even if you want to work in their plant, you have to have computer skills. >> we're finding there's a bigger need for different sets of skills in the manufacturing side, we see that people need more i.t., more computer skills, experience in things like lien manufacturing. to be able to work. these plants we're building in the u.s. >> that was eric spiegel and he said they want to expand more in the country and all the things that have been happening in washington, he's been telling me, have concerned me and they're in the wind turbine business, they're building 70 new trains for amtrak. they're in everything. and they've got like 65,000 people. >> finally, a company that has about 150 locations around the states. tell us about them and the jobs they have.

>> they went public last week, and it's tea, they make tea. no kidding. teapots. they went public on the stock exchange last week and the stock jumped 64% on its ipo day. a lot of people took this as a big surprise in the markets. they are selling tea in specialty stores across the country and they're expanding and they're hiring. they need retail professionals, managers, sales agents. the salary range a little lower $26,000 to $63,000. >> tea is really hot right now. >> hot, i get it. >> who would have thought? they're expanding and looking and i talk about this a lot on the show, steve, as you know. if you're coming out of college, there's not a lot of jobs. we're going to get the new unemployment figures on friday. we're not looking for anything positive so if you're -- especially the college kids and the recent grads are really struggling. you have to be open to do a job that you didn't think you would have to do. >> get on the web sites right

away. >> you can go to fox business, fox news. to the web sites, we have everything listed and career builder is great research. >> trying to help people out. and by the way, check out cheryl on her program. noon today, fox business. all right. straight ahead on this tuesday morning, a small business owner telling washington enough is enough! >> we are supposed to be making sacrifices. but you guys, you don't stop with your benefits, you don't take lower pay. you don't -- where is your sacrifice? >> that guy talking to his computer will be here live to talk to you. >> and then the debt deal goes to the senate this afternoon. but senators like mike lee say they're voting no. so what if we miss the midnight deadline? the senator is here top of the hour. >> yes, he is. looking good! you lost some weight.

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>> gretchen: top of the morning to you on tuesday, august 2. i'm gretchen carlson. thank you for sharing your time with us. the clock continues to tick because we still have one more vote to go, but senators like mike lee from utah say they're going to vote no on the bill to raise the debt ceiling. mike lee, the senator, will be here live moments away. >> steve: meanwhile, say it ain't so, joe. can the vice president pass this one off as a gaffe, comparing the tea party to terrorists? >> peter: they saved a woman's life, then sued her for all she's worth. two so-called heros pull a woman from her burning car. now they say she has to pay on "fox & friends," starting right now.

>> it's time for "fox & friends"! >> gretchen: good morning, everyone. hope you're having a great tuesday. i know there is a sense of relief for a lot of people working in congress today. they still have to vote in the senate. but for the most part, maybe some members of the house will get some sleep now after going through that thing. >> steve: brian kilmeade is getting sleep today. he's on vacation. in his place, we got on retainer, famous attorney, peter johnson, jr. great to have you. >> peter: thank you. >> gretchen: norway massacre suspect, anders behring breivik, issuing a long list of unrealistic demands in exchange for his cooperation. he wants the government tossed out and he's demanding to be evaluated only by japanese psychiatrists because he says they would be more likely to understand him. he's confessed to the bombing and shooting rampage that killed 77 people. while you were sleeping, former detroit mayor kill patrick was released from

prison. the 41-year-old says he's, quote, beginning anew and heads to texas to reunite with his family. >> rick: a autopsy scheduled for selena cass, her body found in a river. >> her body was recovered. we have brought her home not the way we want to do bring her home. >> gretchen: last night friends held a candlelight vigil to remember her. police calling her death now suspicious, but there are no suspects at this time. they were hailed as heros for saving a woman from a burning car in nine. now two men -- 2009. now they'll sue her for $25,000, claiming the crash was her fault and they both suffered permanent injuries rescuing her. she got into a fight before the crash and wanted to commit

suicide. and those are your headlines. >> steve: that's a terrible story. one major hurdle to go before the debt deal ends up on president obama's desk before midnight tonight. the white house is urging the senate to follow the house's lead and pass the compromise bill before tonight's default. wendell goler live at the white house with more. wendell, it sounds like they could start the debate at noon with the vote? >> in fact, they will, steve. harry reid will start the process of voting on the bill to cut the deficit about noon, which will give him time for a couple of test votes and arm twisting if necessary to get the bill passed before the midnight deadline. the measure passed the house yesterday by a fairly wide margin, 269 votes to 161. more democrats voted against it than republicans, in fact. the white house is confident the votes are there in the senate, but yesterday reid wasn't

betting. >> i'm a long-time member of congress and i never count my votes until they're cast. i'm hopeful, but we'll have to see. the republican also have to produce some votes and we'll have to produce some votes. but i'm not here to declare victory yet, get this thing passed. >> arizona congresswoman gabrielle giffords returned to washington for yesterday's vote. her first since she was shot in a rampage in tucson that left six people dead and a dozen other people injured. she voted for the deal. democrats objected to the demands that tea party members made to the bill. aides to joe biden denied a report he called the tea party terrorists in a meeting with democrats, several lawmakers were said to have called them that. jim demint defended them. >> there is no one tea party. what we're talking about are thousands of citizen groups across this country who are being vigilant about their

government, which is what our founders asked them to be. they're not radical people. they're very common sense people. >> this deficit debt ceiling bill cuts about $900 billion in spending, hikes the debt ceiling $400 billion immediately, 500 billion in the fall. congress will establish a bipartisan committee to look for 1 1/2 trillion dollars in additional cuts. the debt ceiling will be raised about that amount. steve? >> steve: all right. wendell goler live. thank you very much. about an hour ago, we heard utah senator, who is also a republican, orrin hatch say he will vote no on the bill later today in the senate. but does senator hatch's utah colleague, senator mike lee share that same position? he's joining us from the rotunda. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: i think you're going to be voting no on this sugar coated, satan sandwich, too, aren't you?

>> those are not my words, but i will vote no. >> steve: why? >> because this is a permanent problem. when we take on all that debt, that's a long-term commitment that will take us decades to pay off. it deserve has long-term solution attached. the only long-term solution to this kind of problem is a balanced budget amendment. we don't have that one in place. so we have no police raising the debt -- place raising the debt limit. >> gretchen: i'm gog ask you the same -- going to ask you the same question. if you knew you were the last vote to make a difference of whether or not this country went into default, would you still vote no? >> yes, i would. and i would use that to reemphasize the need for a balanced budget amendment. if we keep kicking this can down the road as then senator barak obama refused to do back in 2006, we will eventually get to the mathematical economic limiting point of borrowing authority. not to be confused with our legal borrowing authority. eventually we'll borrow so much money within the next few years

that lenders will stop lending to us, at least not at rates of interest that we can afford. it will end up stealing money from everything, from national defense to entitlements. this is an avoidable problem and we can avoid it by limiting congress' borrowing power. >> peter: are you actively encouraging your colleagues to vote against this in the same fashion that you are, and have you thought about the worst possible scenario if, in fact, you are successful in getting them to kill this legislation in terms of the effects of a default? >> i've been actively urging my colleagues for the last six months not to support any debt limit increase that does not include and is not precede bid a passage by congress of a balanced budget amendment. that said, it appears that the die is relatively cast, notwithstanding what senator reid said yesterday afternoon. it does appear that they've got the votes locked up to do this. >> steve: one of the things, yesterday on this program, we

held up speaker boehner's power point that's presenting to his members to rally support to pass this. one of the pages said, no tax hikes. when in reality, when you start to think a little bit about it, if this super commission decides one of the ways they can pay down the $1.5 trillion or whatever big number that's going to be is to jack up rates, there could be a tax hike, theoretically? >> there could be a tax hike. in that instance we would be faced with an up or down vote on that proposal and an up or down vote in the senate would not have to cross the normal 60 vote threshold that usually applies and will be applying to today's vote. so that's of concern to me as well. i fear that this could lead to tax hikes and that's another reason i'm not willing to support it. >> gretchen: senator lee, there could be tax hikes without the committee doing anything because the bush tax cut also expire in 2013 and that would increase revenue by $3.5 trillion without

that 12-person committee doing anything! >> there may well be tax increases without this. i believe this enhances significantly the likelihood that we could see tax rate increases separate and apart from the possibility of the bush tax cuts expiring. >> peter: to achieve the deficit reduction that you hope for and that you've been working so hard for, wouldn't it require a massive reduction in defense spending in this country to realistically do what you're asking to do? >> it would certainly require a massive reduction in almost every kind of spending. one of the reasons why i focused on a balanced budget amendment is that if you put that back stop in place, it takes several years to ratify and take effect, it would give us time to figure out where the cuts would have to be made and would give our economy time to recover. but it does have to start happening. it has to start happening right now. we can't afford to put this off any longer.

>> steve: on the positive side, we're not facing default tonight at midnight. >> that is correct. we've been facing two risks here. one is the risk of not raising the debt limit by august 2. it looks like we're not going to have to deal with that risk. but that puts us into the position of facing the other risk, which may well turn out to be more severe, which is raising the debt limit without permanent structural spending reforms in place that would change the way we spend money in washington. >> peter: final question, do you think a downgrade would be good for the country in the long run? >> no, no. i don't. i think a downgrade would be terrible for the economy. it will affect everything from mortgage rates that you pay on your home to the rate you pay on your auto loan. have a trickle down effect to everything, including job creation. this is one of the reasons why i'm so worried about this debt limit increase. >> gretchen: all right. senator mike lee, i'll pick your brain more on kilmeade and friends when i host the show coming up. thanks for being my guest on that as well.

>> happy to do it. >> gretchen: next a man with a message for washington. >> you're supposed to be making sacrifices, but you guys, you don't stop with your benefits? you don't take lower pay? where is your sacrifice? >> gretchen: we love that guy's message, so we tracked him down. guess what? he's going to join us now in just a few minutes. >> peter: first, the ultimate odd couple. one is an uber liberal, the other ultraconservative. why is the great former democratic mayor ed koch throw his weight behind republican bob turner? you're about to find out.

>> steve: the special election to replace former new york congressman anthony wiener, remember that guy? the special election just weeks away. competition is heating up between democratic state assemblyman and republican bob turner, and now turner has gotten some big support from a democrat. former democrat, new york mayor ed koch is turning his back on his own party to support the republican candidate and send a message to the president. and we're joined this morning by mayor ed koch and candidate bob turner. good morning to both of you.

>> good morning. >> first let me say, i am a democrat. secondly, i'm also a liberal with sanity. what i want to do is what bob wants to do. he is what i consider to be a compassionate conservative. we represent a majority in this country of both democrats and republicans and we want to send messages to our own parties that they can't do what they're doing, the leadership. so we've joined together. i believe that president obama has conveyed he wants to throw israel under the bus. bob objects, as i understand it, to the position of the republican leadership that wants to privatize medicare. he's against that. he's told me that. he's against privatizing social security. so between the two of us, we want to send very powerful messages to washington. >> steve: sure. of course, bob, you can't win in that district here in new york because i think it's three to one democrats to republicans, without help from guys like

that. >> 3.8 to one. so we have to make an appeal across party lines. we need independents and democrats to join in to get this job done. >> steve: mr. mayor, you are in particular upset the way this president -- also the democrats and republicans in congress as well -- have reacted to the jobs crisis. >> they haven't done anything about the jobs crisis! it's outrageous. everybody says, like it's poetry, job, job, job, and you would think that the congress would respond. they both, democrats and republicans, have handled themselves like sophomores in a high school. >> steve: one of the things, mr. turner, that you say you bring to the table, if you were elected in the special election, is you're a business guy and you look at what's going on in washington right now. they need somebody who knows how to run a business. >> i hope to bring practical business sense and experience. i started companies. i know what it takes, what the

capital markets require, what needs to be done. >> steve: sure. mr. mayor, one other thing that is of ultimate importance to you is the relationship between this country and israel and you have seen what the president has done in the last six months or so as turning our back on them. >> what the president has done is insult the prime minister of israel at the white house. everybody remembers that. and they're seeking to change the relationship, which everybody referred to -- every president has a special relationship with israel. they're the ones that -- are democratic minded. they're a democracy. the rest of the world in the arab world do not and i believe that president obama, wanting to establish a better relationship with the muslim world, has been willing to throw israel under the bus and i want to make it clear that i'm opposed to that. i know that bob is opposed to that. but that's not the only issue.

the other issues key, medicare, medicaid, social security, not to privatize them, which is what the republican leadership said they want to do. >> steve: all right. former mayor, not former democrat, ed koch, and current republican who is running for congress here in the new york city area, bob turner. we thank you for joining us live. >> thank you. >> steve: straight ahead on this tuesday, he's like so many of you, regular guy, just fed up to here with politics as usual. >> we're supposed to be making sacrifices. but you guys, you don't stop with your benefits. you don't take lower pay. where is your sacrifice? >> steve: we like that guy's message to congress so much, we tracked him down and he will join us live next. and the airlines are charging passengers for a federal tax they're no longer paying. after public outrage, one airline is now changing its

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>> gretchen: couple quick headlines, if you're looking for a fun college bash, look no further than ohio university. got it right this time. they've been ranked the number one party school. they stole the title from university of georgia who finished second. delta airlines announcing it will be the first major airline to offer refunds to passengers for the federal taxes that were suspended during the partial shut down of the faa. those with tickets bought before july 23. get your receipts. peter? >> gretchen: thanks. the economy stalled, unemployment is high, small business owners have just about had it with politicians in

washington talking about raising taxes. we found this video on youtube that says exactly that much better than we ever can. watch. >> some of you have never owned a business, invested in a business, had to worry about the budget of taking care of a business, but now you're in leadership telling business how to act. it makes us want to vomit. >> peter: we liked this man's message so much, we actually tracked him down in the video. joining us from tampa, florida, small business owner jim garvin. good morning, jim. >> good morning, how are you? >> peter: fine, nice to see you. you said a lot of things in this youtube video that maybe close to a million people have already watched that a lot of us want to say, but are afraid to say. what drove you to the point of talking about what you call some of the clowns that are running our business down in washington? >> i really think it's just a

level of frustration that a lot of us have about what we see going on in washington and the kind of things that happen there that we couldn't practice at all in our businesses. that's probably what's touched a nerve and i'm pleasantly surprised at the number of people who watched it have watched it, but the reality is that frustration is very real and i think washington and most politicians are ignoring that level of frustration that's out there. >> peter: in terms of frustration, one of the things you talked about was the president kind of attacking small business owners, as small business owners are flying around in big private jets. you made the point that a lot of small business owners don't take home a lot of money and that their income taxes show the gross proceeds of those companies. >> i think there is a lot that

goes into that particular discussion. i think the important thing is to understand that you can't go around blaming one group or another and unfortunately in washington, there is this giant blame game that goes on. what i'm hoping is as a result of this video, people begin to have some honest discussions. one of the things we do know is that we've had to reduce staff. we've had to reduce benefits as a result of all the things going on. but in washington, congressional staffs are at an all-time high. congressional budgets to run their offices at an all-time high. and that's on both sides of the aisle. so i think it's really important that maybe the united states take a moral high ground and that congressmen, the president, all of these people consider taking, as a symbolic gesture, even a pay cut to show people they're serious about getting their house in order. that kind of symbolic gesture i think, means something to the american people and we're not seeing it. and hence, the frustration. >> peter: put your money where

your mouth is literally, and show the american people that you're susceptible to the same kind of burdens and the same sacrifices that we're suffering. what is the role of independents going forward in this next election and going forward in our future in this country, jim? >> well, there was an old cartoon that said, we've met the enemy and the enemy is us. all the people that are in office, the clowns, as i call them, we put them there. we're responsible for that. i think we have a responsibility now to begin to say, we're just not going to accept that kind of behavior anymore. you have to show us that you understand budgets. you have to show us that you understand sacrifice. you have to demonstrate to us that you are more than somebody that's up to drinking from the public coffers and you never really reduce the cost of operating your office, you never reduce the expenses that surround your business, if you

will. it's frustrating to hear people in washington say, washington is a unique place and if you don't understand it, then you can't get things done here. if it's become that complicated, washington has become the wrong kind of place and it needs to change dramatically. >> peter: thank you for simplifying it. we met john and now jim garvin, refreshing voice sweeping out. thanks for doing what you're doing. please come back again. >> thank you so much. >> peter: tell us the progress you're making. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> peter: they pay their taxes, but the local school says that's not enough. one working mom, she's furious. she has to pay an extra $500 so her child can ride the bus. incredible. then how is this for construction noise? ♪ >> peter: coming up, meet the hard hat with a soft spot for

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>> a lot are saying congress is pushed to act on this whole debt ceiling thing before they start their annual five week recess later this month. don't you love that? last couple weeks, congressmen saying, screw the country, screw the stock market, the hell with interest rates. as soon as it cut noose their vacation time, we've got to get this thing done! come on, let's get out of here! >> steve: always waiting 'til the 11th hour. >> gretchen: and the president has a big birthday to celebrate. he's 50. he's going to chicago for some big party. who knows what the incentive is

to get people to act. so many of the details are floating out now because it was presented at a late point in time. there has been a lot of talk about these triggers and how they would actually go into effect. so if that 12-member committee was not able to find $1.5 trillion in cuts, then you could go to these trigger cuts that are automatic, either from the department of defense and the pentagon or from medicare. but some people are saying now that that may never even happen because you have to have a beaurocrat be the one who would actually ask for that trigger. confusing. >> peter: so earlier, dick morris had some point with regard to these enforcement triggers. let's see what he had to say. >> they can just repeal those triggers. i think that the key is that on september 30 when this fiscal year expires, congress should not pass a budget, but instead, the house should pass continuing resolutions to keep the government open until january 1

and then use that to hold obama's feet to the fire to make sure that the cuts really take place. >> steve: mr. morris always working the angles and he brings up an interesting point. the next battle will be over the continuing resolution. the democrats did not pass a budget to actually fund the government this past year and instead, what they did was kicked that can down the road until just a few weeks from now, well, couple months actually, shortly after the summer concludes. >> peter: is that a good idea or does that just lead to more dysfunction? are we going to go month to month in this country? is there going to be a new deadline, a new late night discussion and negotiations? >> gretchen: sounds like there could be because it sounds like there is a loophole with these triggers potentially. >> peter: that you need a specific vote or specific purpose -- >> gretchen: the way judge napolitano explained it, is it's not a member of congress that calls for the congress, it's someone from the congressional budget office or some kind of

beaurocrat. i don't know if that would be the treasury secretary or whomever. i know one thing, congress is good at continuing resolutions. they're very good at those. not on passing a budget, but very good on the cr's. >> steve: good at those and continuing confusions. >> peter: that's true. >> gretchen: let's do some other headlines for tuesday. key witness in the brutal beating of jam brian stowe -- sam brian stowe, the key witness is dead. he died suddenly, apparently from an allergic reaction to peanuts in a salad. it's unclear how this will affect the prosecution's case now against the two suspects. louis sanchez and marvin norwood are charged with assault. stowe remains hospitalized with brain damage. >> steve: people in new york who pay some of the highest taxes voted yesterday to not use millions of dollars in taxpayer funds to pay for a new hockey arena. they rejected the referendum last night, but not without a fight. >> i live here in nassau county,

i don't want to see us lose the only thing that brings people from other counties to spend their money here. >> we're not idiots. we'd like to find out what is the deal with $14 million of debt that we're going to incur. >> steve: the move could have raised property taxes close to $60 per year over the next 30 years. i think the whole bond issue was $400 million. >> peter: women covered by private insurance will soon be able to fill their birth control prescriptions for free. starting in august, 2012, insurers will be required to cover the full cost of family planning. supporters say this marks a milestone in women's health care. birth control opponents argue this is the government messing with god. >> steve: talk about multi tasking, a worker at an auto parts store in new york city hailed as a hero for chasing down a shoplifter. take a look at the cover of the new york post. got the guy in a head lock after chasing him down the street and while he was in a head lock, he

dialed 911 to summon the police. the thief threatened to stab him with a dirty syringe. but the man refused to back down. we talked to him on "fox & friends" this morning. >> i know he was guilty basically. he had all the merchandise and once we seen him run, i guess it was a basic instinct of getting him. >> steve: the thief managed to get away before police got there, but he left behind everything he tried to steal and, of course, embarrassingly enough, his picture is on the cover of the "new york post" today. >> gretchen: check out the new york youtube sensation, the hard hat sinatra. ♪ and the winter winds ♪ ♪ they have come and gone >> gretchen: all right. sing it. gary russo serenading fans on his lunch break.

for the past few weeks, he's been soothing people around there. there was that sinatra contrast that courtney friel was telling us about next week, he should go to the auditions. i think they go through the end of the month. >> peter: i thought he was lip syncing, but it's so close to the real sinatra, which is a great song. >> steve: meanwhile, let's tell you a little bit about this. a family in tennessee, young couple with their three children, they went to visit the in-laws a couple of days ago and they were parked in woods and next thing you know, when they're driving down the highway, that snake, which they thought was a water moccasin, was a rat snake instead, was on the windshield for miles until, as the woman driver told us, it crawled around to her side and then fell off. but it provided miles and miles of entertainment for the family,

in particular the kids in the back seat watching mom and dad and the snake on the windshield. >> this is a water moccasin, a huge water moccasin in our car. >> we've got three kids under three, and any time anything happens, we just pull the phone out and so i just started videoing. it was so bizarre, the only thing you could do was laugh. we were laughing, the kids were screaming in the background. >> gretchen: wow. good thing that car had a top on it. >> peter: what they should have had, every family should have one, because he don't care, is a honey badger. then that thing would have ended very quickly. >> gretchen: they eat snakes? >> peter: they don't care. they eat snakes. >> steve: honey badger, very big on youtube, as this video is.

why she didn't hit the windshield wiper button and throw that thing off the front of their car, into the convertible traveling alongside, in hindsight, she says perhaps next time she will. >> peter: because then they would have been suing everybody. >> steve: it did slide down the side, probably to pavement and that car following it -- i don't know that it ended well for the snake. >> peter: we'll track it. >> gretchen: still to come, the vice president tries to take back his comment comparing tea partiers to terrorists. we will ask congressman scott. >> peter: and parents have more to worry about than their kids smoking in the boys room. how about paying to bust their kids -- because their kid to school for $500 apiece. even though the school has money in the bank. hear about that story next.

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>> gretchen: 45 minutes after the top of the hour. quick headlines. a judge ordered casey anthony back to orange county, florida within the next 72 hours. she will return to serve probation on a separate check fraud charge. and fire crews in florida recuse a stray pup after several hours in the hot miami heat. he got wedged underneath a car. his collar caught on part of the engine. fire crews used a carjack and set him free and now he's up for

adoption. if somebody wants him, give them a call in florida. very cute. >> steve: hope that muffler wasn't hot. kids will be heading back to school soon. but this indiana, in one district, it will cost parents a pretty penny to get the kids to school. >> peter: 'cause they're going to have to shell out nearly $500 per child to ride the school bus for the year. franklin township school district says they've been hit hard from property tax caps. but parents wonder if this is the only option. >> steve: joining us from indianapolis is a parent and a mother of five, kelly ruly. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: okay. we've got good news and bad news. the good news is, in april they voted not to increase your taxes where you live. the bad news is, to balance the budget, they're going to start charging you and your family how much to get your kids to school? >> for us, it would be a total

of $2,195 for the year to get our kids on the school bus. >> steve: it's like the bus tax! >> essentially it is. they have already collected taxes for the transportation fund for this year and have decided not to use those funds for transportation and at the very least, they need to use it for this year. now the school system says we have a shortfall for transportation that we also have a $17 million rainy day fund or surplus fund. >> peter: kelly, what are you going to do and if you had to pay this money, what would your family have to do without? >> well, we're not going to do the buses. i'm going to drive the children and pick them up. >> steve: that's going to be a hassle 'cause you have a kid in high school, middle school, you

got grade school going on. >> yes. yes. the other hassle with the high school and middle school is that the board has set the times for the start and end times of the day and the high school and middle school start and end at the same time, but my high schooler and middle schooler are in two different locations. so i have to somehow be able to get the high schooler and the middle schooler to school at the same time. >> peter: are you a working mom? >> i'm a stay at home mom. >> peter: what about the working moms? it must be so tough for them. >> i do not know how they're going to do it. i have several friends that are in the same situation as i am that have a high schooler, middle schooler, and elementary children, and i don't know how they're going to do it because they can not afford the fees. >> steve: in my kids' school, they've got these fees if your kids want to take part in sports, i know if you want to be on the hockey team, my kids' school, they've got to pay, out

of your own pocket, every family, 1800 bucks a year. >> peter: oh, my god. >> steve: just for hockey. we feel for you, what's going on out there. >> we have the pay to play sports as well. they instituted that last year. >> steve: right. but pay to get to school... . >> peter: we wish you a lot of luck with this. >> steve: kelly joining us today from indianapolis. thank you very much and good luck to you and your family. >> thank you. >> peter: next on the rundown, the vice president compares tea party patriots, perhaps to terrorists. how does representative tim scott feel about that? the tea party helped put him in office. he's here next. >> steve: speaking of parties, they have one every day, starting 12 minutes from now up there in studio j hosted by bill hemmer. >> how are you doing? >> steve: okay. >> camerota putting on her microphone here. so what will the senate do this morning?

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>> gretchen: in less than an hour, the senate expected to start taking up the debt deal now which passed the house last night. but it didn't have full support. many republicans from the freshmen class felt they were

elected to cut spending more than this deal does. one of them, tim scott, from south carolina joins me now from washington, d.c good morning to you, congressman scott. >> good morning, gretchen, thank you for having me. >> gretchen: i know there was a lot of arm twisting and other kind of stuff going on to try and get to you change your vote before actually this deal came to pass. none of it seemed to work with you. why? >> i really do feel like we need to change the financial trajectory of our country. we were heading toward the brink of bankruptcy and i believe we still are. at the end of the day, the short-term deal that lasts just through the election is unfair to the american people. it simply doesn't do enough to get our financial house in order. >> gretchen: i know that there were many articles written about the group of you from south carolina, some of the politicians who stuck it out together and determined that they were going to vote no. and part of that process was that you went and prayed together. how much flak did you hear about that, if any? >> interestingly enough, it's

hard to believe that our country has come to the point where when men get together to pray, that it's a laughable event. we did get some flak over that. but at the end of the day, i consider my faith a foundation of my decision. i'm not a republican first. i'm a person who believes in christ first and i try to lean on the highest level of wisdom i can find that is divine wisdom. no doubt god doesn't speak to me in an audible voice, but at the end of the day i believe he guides us, he leads us and he directs us and sometimes we just disobey. >> gretchen: some people would say god was telling them to compromise. i'm specifically thinking about some of the tea party members as well, like colonel allen west from florida, who determined quite early on that he was going to support john boehner on this deal and i believe we have a statement from him. we don't have it, but it alludes to the fact that two-thirds of the way is better than zero. how would you respond to that? >> i would agree that two-thirds of the way is better than zero.

however, when you look at where we need to go as a nation, we are nowhere closer to that end game from my perspective. when you're talking about $2.4 trillion of cuts and all we can find the first year or two are about 20 billion and it depends how you do the math, it may be less, i don't know how you find the other $2.39 trillion over the next nine years. it really leaves someone for a reason to pause, take a look, and decide whether or not we realistically can even hit that mark, much less find $4 trillion in savings. >> gretchen: somebody has to find a new calculator to get to those kind of numbers. let me ask you this, much has been made about the vice president and his potential comments linking tea partiers to terrorists. he now claims he -- he sort of backtracked in an interview last night and said, quote, this, what happened was there were some people who said they felt like they were being held hostage by terrorists. i never said that they were terrorists or weren't

terrorists. i just let them vent. what would you say to the vice president today? >> i think the inflammatory remarks during high pressure situations reveals one's character. i would be more concerned about who he is than what he said. ultimately, at the end of the day, we have to make sure that we as the american people stay on the same page even if we disagree how to get to the end of the road. we must agree that getting to the end of the road or restore ing financial stability and making sure that our nation remains financially solvent is important and maybe the number one thing. >> gretchen: are you demanding an apology on that comment, or are you just so used to being attacked right now as a member of the tea party that it's just another one on the list? >> absolutely. the way i look at it is that comment is just one of many. our phones were lit up by people who had more inflammatory things to say about me than that one. what it says to the american people, however, is that our

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>> steve: our three hours with you today is done. >> gretchen: a three hour tour. >> steve: that's right. tomorrow dave ramsey will join us, governor scott walker from wisconsin, and trace adkins. in the last couple of months, he had a terrible house fire. >> peter: it was sad. i saw him in the lincoln lawyer. >> gretchen: he was a rough and tough motorcycle guy. thanks for filling i