it is something to wrap your head around. the united states of america is no longer the top credit dog in fox news alert. a week of anxiety over the economy capped by a financial bomb shoal. standard and poors downgrading the u.s. credit rating for the first time in history. >> heather: i'm heather childers. the credit rating is down one notch to double "a" police. it stems from s&p 500 s&p 500 concerns. >> and the news it inquiries big consequences. triple af78s credit rating made the treasury bond the most safest investments. it gave it the status of safe

haven. a top credit rating allowed the u.s. government to finance its operations by borrowing money at lower interest rates. there is no escaping the historic nature and that we have enjoyed the triplisms rating for 70 years. so how did the white house react to the downgrade? >> the white house press secretary sent out a statement that did not mention the downgrade but talked about the circumstances that led to it. he said, quote, the bipartisan compromise on deficit reduction was an important step in the right direction. when you have this coming weeks the -- >> reporter: he also said it

took too long for us to reach there compromise and it sent bag signals that might have led to the situation but the president is yet to react. >> heather: that is very interesting and it's a hot political issue as we head into 2012. what reaction are we getting from capitol hill? >> very predictably we have republicans blaming the democrats and the president and his administration and democrats blaming republicans, surprise, surprise. we have one reaction from kevin brady a congressman from texas. he said this. we can put up that quote. washington has piled on...

steve israel in charge of getting democratic members elected to congress. steve israel said. >> reporter: he goes to to say the downgrade is the direct result of roadblock republicans. so there you have it setting the stage for the congressional committee that is supposed to pave wait forward. we'll see which ones are chosen. >> heather: the finger pointing begins. thank you very much. >> rick: so what does this mean? america is now considered a risk jury investment than canada. more than a dozen countries have triple "a" ratesing. a double "a" plus which is now what we have puts us in the same

league at knew zeed zeal and and belgium and puts up a notch of spain. china and japan are a double "a" minus. >> heather: one of most respected investors, warren buffett telling fox business network says the news, this is a quote, doesn't make sense, showing the confidence in the quality of u.s. credit. he tells fox business he would give the u.s. a quadruple "a" rating if he could. the chairman of bershire hathaway says he has 40 billion dollars invested in u.s. treasury bills. >> rick: so if he doesn't think it should be downgraded. why did the s&p. he is how they explained the decision earlier today. >> the ratings was motivated by a number of factors.

one was the political gridlock in washington which makes us think it's going to be difficult for elected officials to put the fiscal profile of the u.s. government on a long term sustainable path. part of it was because of the fiscal path itself. debt to gdp and to states and local and federal governments and liquid assets is about percentage of gdp. >> chris: we're joined by liz mcdon't. what happened here. there are two other credit rating agencies there. neither one of them downgraded our credit. how come the s&p decided to do it? >> the first out of the box to say they were going to downgrade with 50/50 odds. they put it on a fast track to downgrade due to i create moneyous infighting as being

detrimental to the fiscal status of united states. we talked to s&p and they said essentially they reached the final decision. a source close to the matter they reached the decision yesterday morning. then they conveyed a conference call with officials in europe in conjunction with canada who an analyst from canada who is the primary analyst on the team. they reached the decision. ran it by treasury and ran it by the white house and cbo and federal reserve. white house and cbo treasury pushed back. s&p said the error would not have matter because it led to a long term fiscal picture does not look good for the united states. they are also citing medicare fix is needed and their decision to downgrade. they made the move after. they announced it after the markets closed h this is

important because s&p traditionally gives 12 hours worth of warning. they don't want insider trading going on wall street and anybody finding out about it and making trades on their decision. >> rick: how much of a surprise was this? they let lawmakers know and administration that if this debt deal that was being worked on at the time didn't produce cuts in the area of about $4 trillion, that our credit rating was going to be downgraded. didn't they signal this was going to be case? >> yes. s&p is sticking to the $4 trillion figure. that is what they want to see in the cuts over the next ten years. according to the minutes i've read and that i have seen from the treasury, the treasury talk to wall street the primary dealers. goldman sanction and pimco and the likes.

according to those minutes of that meeting with wall street players, also the new york federal reserve, all of them concluded there was not an imminent downgrade coming. this is likely taking wall street by surprise. we're going to be watching closely the action in the bond market. some say you could see it tick up a fraction of a point to half a point in the same year. that is what we want to watch closely. if the yield goes up, all of our borrowing costs that are pegged for mortgages and credit cards. some are saying its short term problem because there is a flight to safety from europe because the bond debt is below 3%. we'll talk to you more next hour which means to people that may be taking out loans for car or college tuition. elizabeth mcdonald will join us next hour with that kind of analysis. we look forward to it.

>> heather: there are new questions about the political fallout from the u.s. debt downgrade. s&p taking congress and white house to task in its statements. could heads roll? brady is a staff writer at roll call. thanks for joining us jessica? >> thanks. >> heather: let's begin a quote from the s&p statement. the downgrade reflects our view the effectiveness and pre-bikt built of american policy making have weakened as a time of ongoing and fiscal challenges more than we envisioned when assigned a negative look back on april 18, 2011. on who will be held accountable for the downgrade? >> as you know the congressmen left for august recess. we won't see heads roll until after labor day. i have i've seen a number of

press releases, one that came out from rand paul before i came on here calling for secretary tim geithner to step down. calling for massive change in terms of the president's economic policies. this is something we're going hearing about from lawmakers, certainly now that they are back home talking to constituents. >> heather: owe night to have that, it comes in on my blackberry, constant statements. rand paul the latest calling for treasury-secretary tim geithner to resign. michele bachmann called for that. do you think should resign? >> there were rumblings that he was thinking about stepping down after september when the debt deal was finished. i will tell you. >> i was covering the senate when ben bernanke was up for his second term at the fed. you saw bernie sanders on the

left and number of republicans on the right, vitter comes to mind, calling for him to step down saying that the economic policies was weakening the country and eventually the white house put support behind their guy, he was conferred. this is time to make up as much difference. it will be interesting to see how much it catches on with secretary geithner. people want to see changes particularly given this new s&p announcement. this happened under president obama's watch. there is no denying that. does it give potential republican candidates the president the momentum they need to oust president obama from office? >> very interesting. people vote with their pocketbooks. from now until the election day you are going to see the president and republican candidates focusing on the economy and focusing on the jobs which is what the president said in his press conference. he was shifting his focus. you are right. this is a definitely going to be a difficult political issue for

him to talk about. republicans are going to be reminding him of these policies that he has been supporting are also then being backed up by s&p announcements. it's going to be definitely a difficult road. >> heather: which he has not talked about yet. we are waiting for a statement coming from president obama. jessica, thank you. >> rick: fox news alert, other big story, u.s. military, the whole country suffering the singles biggest loss of the war in afghanistan. at least 30 u.s. troops killed after their helicopter crashed in afghanistan's province. the majority of them from the navy seals team six, the same team that took out osama bin laden. as far as we to have been told, none of those that were killed were part of bin laden raid.

coner has the latest. >> reporter: this is a damaging blow to the small niet tight-knit forces here in afghanistan and across the u.s. military. we believe 25 of them were u.s. navy seals, the same unit that did raid osama bin laden's compound in pakistan but these weren't the actual men that raided the compound, still very sad to lose some of the top soldiers and fighters and troops here in afghanistan from u.s. military. taliban immediately claimed to have shot down this chinook helicopter with 38 afghan and american troops aboard. usually the taliban claims shooting down helicopters when they just crashed because of mechanical malfunctions or weather, but in this case we are being told by senator military officials that the helicopter was shut down by an rpg that

they fired at the helicopter. there appears to be a wrong two to three hour battle in which u.s. forces were trying raid a taliban compound in wardak province south southwest of kabul. there was large fire fight. at some point the taliban were able to fire this rpg and took out this chinook. it is very sad day for the u.s. military here in afghanistan. >> rick: thanks. >> heather: to put the crash into context. here are sobering numbers, until yesterday, there had been 1600 deaths in afghanistan since the war begin back in october of 2001. before today, 240 americans have been reported killed in the afghanistan war, that was in the

last year. >> rick: frightening moments aboard an alaska bound airways flight. they evacuated the plane at philadelphia airport because of a threatening note that was found. the airplane was searched and nothing was dangerous was found. the plane landed in philly coming from scotland. >> they stopped a potentially deadly plotted to attack a louisiana high school on monday. they have arrested three 15-year-olds. the teenagers are all students at lake shore high school. that is just outside of new orleans. authorities say that fellow classmates turned them in. more than one student came forward to administrators that they were worried about. they went to our administrator, this is what we have and we immediately turned it over to law enforcement.

>> it's a scary situation where people had planned and plotted to go to school on opening day, begin with killing any police officer or sheriff's deputy that tried to stop them and take weapons to school and kill their fellow students. >> heather: the boys were identified as students and faculty member that they planned to kill. the suspects are being helped in juvenile detention. >> rick: flash mobs turning violent all over the country. this is one we can show you video. a police in philadelphia, things have gotten so bad the city is taking steps to try to credit the problem. -- to combat the problem. >> julie: they started together like for pillow fights and

snowball fights but the flash mobs as hundreds of teenagers looking for trouble are using it to bully neighbors or vandalizing property. a 11-year-old boy in philadelphia among the most recent group of youngsters arrested there, nothing go over whatever was in front of them and targeting pedestrians at random prompting the city to crack down on these rudy juveniles. they will be announcing a new plan on monday signing more law enforcement to the downtown area enforcing a curfew and warning parents they will be held legally responsible for their children's' actions. >> make no mistake about it, this is a parenting and community issue. while law enforcement has to get involved, the mayor has to get involved, the police commissioner has to get involved. it really is an issue that doesn't start or end with them,

it's about parenting and the community. more so than ever before. >> julie: they have also begun getting help from the federal bureau of investigation to monitored media networks such as twitter. and >> rick: we'll see if it helps. julie, thanks. >> heather: an urgent warning to americans in syria. telling them to get out now as the violence escalates, can and should the u.s. do anything? we'll ask a former deputy official, dick cheney. >> and rescuing a woman strapped in a bunk car only to sue her afterwards. do they have a case? ♪ [ male announcer ] this is our beach. ♪

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>> rick: u.s. government urging all americans to get out of syria now. deadly crackdown of people escalating. it's that at least 24 people killed around hama and can the u.s. should do anything to stop the violence. steven yates was deputy assistant to dick cheney and joins us live. i was surprised to hear that was only yesterday that the urging came down from the state department for all americans to get out. what took so long? >> it's part of a pattern across the arab countries where protests turn to violence, turns into backlash, oppression, reaction from the regime. the administration has been

actually kind of slow in most of these areas from libya to egypt and now across the region to syria. the administration seems to be slowly moving in the right direction, though. they have tried to push forward a combination of the assad regime and it wasn't enough but it's moving in that direction. >> rick: the secretary of state hillary clinton talking tougher as well this past week. let's take a listen what the secretary sek had to say. >> the government is responsible for the detdz deaths of more than 2,000 people. we continue to support the syrians themselves and their efforts to began a peaceful and orderly transition to democracy. >> rick: is this the right message and right words? >> it's a step in the right direction. it's still quite difficult for supporters of the administration

at home or abroad to understand what they will do to help these opposition movements. especially in syria, this is not a level playing field. much needs to be done to restrict access to the autocrats and much has to increase resources to the off signifies. they need to be communicate freely and fund activities. our intelligence diplomats, military folks need to be in touch so we don't have a situation like in libya we don't know who these people are. there needs to be a lot of action moving forward short of war that really puts some meat on to the bones of this statement. >> rick: in libya, didn't we freeze khadafy's assets and give some of the that money over to help the rebels' efforts. could we do it in syria? >> it's in the right direction in libya but moving as slow as molasses. the rebels don't have command of

those assets. yes there is much that should be done where we're going after the assets, first freezing and conveying access to the people who we recognize. it's good for the administration to recognize the legitimacy of the opposition. it's good for them to denounce assad. they have chosen a side in this kind of a conflict but what will they do to shape the outcome? >> rick: steven yates, former advisor to dick cheney, thanks for coming. >> heather: s&p sending a message, time to shape up our ship out. is congress up to the task. we'll talk to mike lee from utah. >> rick: then the heat wave sparking a crime spree. crooks stealing air-conditioning units, leaving their victims boiling mad. we'll tell you where this is

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>> rick: busy saturday. top headlines, rick perry taking part of a christian prayer service for thousands of people. he is still considering a presidential run says today's events is not about politics but to pray for help for problems that washington can't fix. >> we see fear in the market place. we see anger in the halls of government. as a nation we have forgotten who made us, who protects us.

for that, we cry it on for your forgiveness. >> heather: how it's a sign of hope in so much tragedy in somalia. a baby has been in your independent back to health. 29,000 children have died in the last nine days alone from an unimaginable famine. >> heather: both parties duking out in the weekly addresses over the topic dominating the headlines this week, the economy. the latest u.s. employment reports shows that america added 117,000 jobs in july. but slightly, more than expected but relatively good news. it comes on the heels of a massive plunge on thursday where the market dropped over 500

points. peter doocey has the story from washington? >> so s&p downgraded the u.s. now what? president obama took to the airwaves as they are digesting the bad news about our credit rating saying that he thinks we need to grow the economy faster and create jobs. >> our job is to do whatever we can, to help folks find work, where incomes are rising again important people. we have to rebuild this economy and sense of security that middle-class families have felt slipping away for years. >> reporter: he wants congress to help him out by extending tax cuts to the middle-class, giving tax credits for veterans and making sure that people who are looking for jobs but can't find them are able to keep their employment benefits. he wants congress to cut red tape for people that want to invest and for companies that

want to repair bridges and airports and roads. republicans sai say that more spending is more trouble. >> we would like to hold him accountable on the debt limit. he back to preponderating more stimulus spending and even more regulations. doubling down on the failed policies shot the answer. >> reporter: congressman grimm says he thinks the common sense thing to do is reduce regulations and simplify the tax code and ramp up energy production here in america. >> heather: thanks, peter. >> rick: the decision to downgrade the credited rating sending a clear message to congress. they are unsatisfied with the debt reduction deal worked out. so at least for now the debt crisis a political crisis. turning up the pressure on lawmakers to get serious about cutting our red ink, will it happen? joining us republican senator mike lee.

thanks for joining us. i want to ask you first of all, with the s&p right to downgrade our credit rt's right or wrong, it is what it is and it is many of us saw coming. we had been warned time and time again, unless you permanently change the way washington spends money you will get into a bad problem. >> rick: what do you think the impact will be for people of your state and all americans? >> it's difficult to predict what the impact will be because this is completely unprecedented. what i do predict in order to get out of it, we as americans have to come together, not as democrats or republicans, but simply as americans and recognize in order to save our federal government, in order to save our economic prosperity, to preserve our way of life, we to get spending under control. as i explained in my freedom agenda, the only way it's going

to happen is a balanced amendment to the constitution. >> rick: s&p said they wanted them to know that they wanted to see $4 trillion in cuts, and it could have gone if the republicans, it would have met raising taxes but they would have gotten that $4 trillion number and our credit ratings may have not been downgraded. should a deal have been worked out to avoid this? >> no. it would have been $4 trillion cuts should have been negotiated but important tax hikes on top of this deal would not have been the right approach to take. i agree with president obama outline a couple years ago a down economy is worst time to raise taxes. that isn't the solution because revenue isn't the problem. spending the is problem. that is where the cuts need to happen. >> rick: southwest a lower

credit rating the same as a tax hike, we're going to get slammed with higher interest rates when we borrow money. what is the difference? >> that is not this is a good thing. all i'm saying it's unreasonable to suggest that a tax increase was wait out of this problem. the way out of it was significant can you tell us. i actual bli believe cuts alone wouldn't do it. they have to be accompanied by statutory spending caps and constitutional amendment restrigt go borrowing power. >> rick: have you raised your hand to serve on the super committee in order to come up with new cuts? >> no, i have not. i've been told that those like me that voted against the under lining legislation will not be considered. >> rick: do you think the credit rating come reply indicates the job for those that serve on the committee? >> it certainly accelerates the

timetable and draws an emphasis for neat we need to identify significant cuts. it ups the ante how much we need to cut. >> rick: good to join us on a saturday. we appreciate it. senator mike lee, thank you for your time, republican from utah. >> heather: now a look at the extreme weather all around the country. temperatures soaring in the south, in some places, it feels like 120 degrees. in texas, the heat is so intense asphalt roads as well as up and buckling under the heat. construction workers, they report temperatures topping 130 degrees on the road surface and more than a foot under the road it's nearly 110 degrees. meteorologists say the heat could last till the end of the month and extensive drought

conditions may last through october. >> rick: a rash of air conditioner of these making life harder for folks struggling to deal with the heat. they swiped the units in broad daylight. they could not believe it. >> they just took it in broad daylight. i was shocked. nothing ever happened like that over here. you are never know. you never know. >> when it gets hot outside, people are need it for the scrap metal or the condenser unit. >> rick: that is awful. they are seeking hundreds of dollars from some of that video into heavy duty cages for a.c. units to keep everybody healthy. >> heather: soaring temperatures can be lethal. if you are an treated and

outside, one program is protecting its players and from heat exhaustion. so this a cool in more ways than one? >> yeah, and it could be saving lives. heat stroke deaths are 100% avoidable which is why researchers are looking into emerging technologies. technologies that have been used in the past. they are having the players swallow small capsules. inside the capsules they are radio waves transmitting the body temperature during practice. they are comparing the results that they get from those small capsules of those of headband sensor, one that can be embedded in a player's helmet. the goal of this independent study is to see if the headband is an effective as the tried and true pill.

the advantages of this technology, quite honestly, if it is representative of core temperatures and you can have people wear a simple headband or embed this monitor inside a football helmet. >> reporter: now the headband would be distorted high schools and colleges. it would be zheeper than the capsule and there is not a nationwide standard for heat stroke for evacuations and rescuing people. so it's very important to educate not only players but coaches and especially trainers. >> so education, is that the primary concern with this technology? >> that is the primary concern. what he is worried about that the headband may not be a completely hundred percent accurate like the internal core temperature capsule. that is getting the temperature of the core. it makes it an algorithm so he

wants to make sure that the headband is as accurate as the capsule because if it is used it could be used in high schools and low budget colleges across the nation. >> heather: thank you so much. >> rick: this is quite a story coming up. an american couple has been told that the daughter that they adopted three years ago was actually kidnapped. now what? do they have to give her back. now a woman rescued from a burning car now being sued by the same people who risked their own lives to save her. do they have a case? we'll be right back. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with the strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. you had me at "probiotic." [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health. it's the cleanest, clearest water.

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>> rick: army announcing it is shortening troop deployment. tours will be cut from a year to nine months. the change will not effect any troops deploying this year. high demand units will continue

serving 12-month tours. it comes as at iraq war winds down and u.s. troops withdraw from afghanistan. >> heather: we've been talking about america not having a triple "a" rating. downgraded to double "a" plus. will it force washington to get its act together? list bring our power panel in. thanks for joining us. so downgraded to double "a" plus. this coming on the heels of a lot of polls out there right now. congress, members of congress down in the polls. president obama down in the polls. do you think this will force them get their act together? >> unless we have optimism on

all of this. barney franks, of massachusetts he was overseeing everything when we had the big crash, if want to call it that. he said this will get people together. what irony on that. >> they said the s&p and standard & poor's was trying to make themselves relevant, as well. >> this is no surprise they are telegraphing you have a serious problem and it's the animosity of members of congress. you have to work together the way the plan works. you have only the $900 billion and $1.12 trillion, second part you have to continue to work and have a dialogue together and now, of course, s&p says we're not confident we're going able to pull this off. >> $1.2 trillion up to super congress. and how do we know they will be

able to come to some resolution. >> they are just passion go the buck. they are passing the blame to another. the problem in washington, d.c., obama and the senate who refuse to cut spending to the agree that is necessary. that is why all this has happened. no knows what is going to happen. i think this a growth irresponsibility on all of it. >> who is getting hurt? it's everybody outside of washington with our credit cards. should we spend, should we in order spend? should we keep the money under the mattress. that anxiety is fueling what is happening on wall street right now. >> when average joe goats bank, i would like to take a loan out. they will say, i'm sorry. we don't think we dock it. when it hits your mortgages, credit card and student loans, that is when there will be a huge uprising, but the fact that our credit has dropped down, it will trickle down to every one of us. >> and we're the largest

economy. >> and they said for a long time. >> gdp is -- >> and a guatemalan judge is ordering a missouri family to return their adoptive daughter saying that it was human trafficking before the adoption took place. should they be forced to give up the girl? the parents had nothing to do with it. so leel legally, lis, it's in the best interests of the child. what is in the best interests long term for this child. this child was abducted and neither the mother nor the parents knew the abduction was patted of that. the bottom line you've had this little girl for nearly all of her life. she is growing up in the united states apparently doing very well. should she have to go back? a judge here in this country

anyway would look at best interests of the child and biological parents usually trump. >> that is what may happen. obviously there is no jurisdiction. the judge has no jurisdiction. >> heather: could they come in and find the girl and take her? >> there has to be a court order. there is a talk that it has to have some sort of government intervention. >> there has to be some u.s. district court judge will have to hear the case. >> it's really a sad situation for all parties involved. this happens all the time that is really unfortunate. it will be up to the court to decide. i totally agree, the decision made. >> in has to be more due diligence. the child is in this country, it's so tragic. we don't even know if he is a bilingual, put her back to

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>> heather: growing concern that social networking sites, like twitter and facebook are having devastating effects on teens. one top scientist warning that it's a self-obsessed generation of people constantly needing feedback. and back to our power panel. what do we think about this? you say you don't have a facebook page. >> i think part of it, too, you share to everything in your life and. >> i'm so out of touch with facebook. but my 13-year-old did tell me about this. i'm not surprised that scientists said you don't have reaction with 50 of your closest friends.

you do now. so you will get that feedback. >> i think you are wonderful mercedes but i really don't want to follow every minute of your life. i don't really -- who cares. but they said something else, young girls, teen girls are selling themselves as commodities on facebook, showing they have to prove themselves. that horrible and i think that is wrong. >> heather: it was like when i was in your high, awkward years. but some of pose pictures have been posted on facebook. >> i think there is some merit to the study because some people become obsessive from comments and feedback from others. we have seen some of the teenagers that have committed suicide because of the feedback.

>> or when they unfriend you and you take it personally. >> parents should not noe what is going on,. >> heather: on to the next topic two men that saved a woman from a burning car. they are now suing the very woman that they rescued. they say the event left them physically and emotionally scarred. there is the burned car, an suv. do they really have a case. let's trie talk to your trial lawyer? >> this is an assumption car, you see a bunk car and the law says you assume the risk of taking that on the o. >> i totally agree but argue the other side. what they are saying she wanted to commit suicide. she was negligent and going kill herself and they were part of the collateral damage. i agree it is a silly case.

>> going from heroes to zeros. [ laughter ] >> we live in a litigious society. it's insane. this is really baseless. >> and i think a jury --. [ talking over each other ] >> the jury is going to be angry that she was trying to kill herself. >> heather: thank you so much for joining us. very interesting topics today. rick, do you have something to talk about it. >> rick: went to on facebook and i like the conversation that you ladies did. nice job everybody. >> incredible video you have to see, on demand, a bus packed with passengers and they opened fire. police say the violence triggered by one and we'll have the full story and fallout straight ahead.

>> rick: thank you for joining us. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's news headquarters." i'm rick folbaum. >> heather: thank you for joining us. i'm heather childers. topping the news this hour, the good old days of borrowing money from one of the u.s.'s biggest creditors are over. that is what china is saying about the never before seen downgrade in our credit rating. >> rick: several parts of the country facing heat that has not been seen in generations. now temperatures are set to rise for a huge part of the country. we'll tell you where. >> heather: this is unbelievable. this dramatic video of men firing on a city bus enabled police to find the suspect, why the cameras like these may not be around if another incident happens. >> rick: first, 30 american troops are killed in what's become the deadliest attack on

american forces since the start of the afghanistan war. their chinook helicopter was traveling in rardak province when she was shot down by insurgents, carrying 25 operators from the group seal team 6, but seven afghanistans and an interpreter. conner powell has the latest from kabul. >> today is the deadliest day for american troops in afghanistan since the start of the war. officially the u.s. military is only confirming that a helicopter crashed in wardak province southwest of kabul early this morning. the taliban say they shot down this chinook helicopter as it was part of a fire fight and part of a raid on a taliban compound in wardak. u.s. military has said nothing officially, but unofficially, they are saying it is very likely the helicopter was

brought down by an rpg earlier this morning. in recent months, the u.s. military here in kabul has said they have wrestled the momentum away from the taliban, but today's attack is a deadly reminder of just how much the taliban can still inflict deadly loss of life on both u.s. and afghan forces, rick. >> rick: conner powell reporting from afghanistan. thank you very much. this attack is the single deadliest attack on u.s. forces in afghanistan since the start of that war almost ten years ago. it's nearly doubled the number of casualties from june of 2005 when 16 seals and special forces died in a chopper crash. so far this year, 365 coalition troops have died in afghanistan. this as we begin our troop draw down which officially began last month. also a bomb attack target ago noah convoy and dramatic video coming from northwestern pakistan. look at this. the attack blew up over a dozen

fuel tankers which were headed to resupply u.s.-led forces fighting in afghanistan and as you can see, fire crews not really able to do very much after this blast was ignited. pakistan continues to be a critical hub in resupplying impact operations in afghanistan. >> heather: back in the u.s., investigators have cleared a u.s. airways jet after being searched at philadelphia international airport. the tsa saying they launched the investigation because of a threatening note. but police and explosives experts found nothing suspicious on the plane. the jet had recently arrived from scotland and preparing to depart for alaska when all on board to deplane were delayed so the plane could be swept. >> rick: another situation involving an airplane in california. jetblue plane making an emergency landing la night at long beach airport. the faa says the aircraft may have had one wheel stuck in the wheel well. it was able to land safely and

taxi to a gate on its own without help. the flight was traveling between salt lake city and long beach. 147 passengers were on board at the time. >> heather: america's pristine credit rating pristine no more. standard and poors' decision to knock the credit worthiness down a notch rippling throughout the world. john chambers head of the rating committee explains the decision. >> we lowered the rating on the united states government to double a plus from triple a. the rating was motivated by a number of factors. one was the political gridlock in washington, which makes us think that it will be difficult for elected officials to put the fiscal profile of the u.s. government on a long-term sustainable path. and part of it was because of the fiscal path itself. >> heather: steve centanni is live in washington. steve, how is the white house reacting? >> well, heather, the white

house press secretary jay carney put out a statement that did not specifically mention the downgrade, but talked about the circumstances that led to the downgrade. he said in a statement, i'll quote part of it, the bipartisan compromise, that compromise on deficit reduction was important step in the right direction, yet the path to getting there took too long and was at times too divisive. we must do better to make clear our nation's will of capacity and commitment to work together to tackle our major fiscal and economic challenges. so that's the reaction from the white house. the president himself has had no statement so far. >> heather: there is a flood of reaction, to say the least, from capitol hill. what are we hearing so far? >> from republicans, no shortage of criticism for the president and his administration, as you can imagine. senator jim demint is calling for the resignation of treasury secretary timothy geithner and the house speaker, john boehner put out a statement saying in part, this decision by standard and poors is the latest consequence of the out of control spending that has taken place in washington for decades.

the spending binge has resulted in job destroying economic uncertainty and now threatens to send destructive ripple effects across our credit markets. democrats looking ahead to that congressional committee that will have the job of recommending further debt reductions. nancy pelosi said, quote, the american people are watching to see if the bipartisan joint committee will develop a plan to responsibly reduce the deficit in a balanced way while promoting economic and economic growth and creating jobs. democrats are calling for a comprehensive solution, one that includes revenues or taxes. the republicans so far have refused to accept. heather? >> heather: back and forth begins. thank you so much. >> rick: brand-new information about what now may happen with our standard and poors credit rating. in the next few months, joining us to make sense of it, tell us what it means is "fox business" network elizabeth mcdonald. what's the new information, first? >> essentially s & p in an

interview with neil cavuto earlier on fox news said the u.s. has anywhere from six months to 24 months to cut $4 trillion more. -- $4 trillion. that means $1.3 trillion in cuts would have to come on top of the $2.7 trillion estimated over the next ten years that's already been agreed to by the u.s. government. and rick, this is important news because s & p is essentially saying that the u.s. needs to act quickly to enact a plan, credible plan to get the extra $1.3 trillion in cuts on top of the $2.7 trillion. s & p john chamber, the head of the rating, telling that to neil cavuto earlier in the day. we have other information, too. we are hearing that central bankers in europe are convening a meeting today. reports are out there, to discuss the downgrade. there is also fears in the market that the other triple a countries could face a whack as well. we're getting information out of the treasury, new york federal

reserve and wall street meeting held earlier in the week. indications there that this downgrade was that not expected by high level officials on wall street and at the treasury and new york federal reserve earlier in the week. so rick, this is big news. what s & p is saying, is that we could go to aa in six months time if those extra $1.3 trillion in cuts are not found for over that ten-year period. s & p also telling fox business this is a bipartisan creation. they want to see more revenue coming into the government. back to you. >> rick: okay. first of all, put a little more pressure on the super committee that will be coming up with more of these cuts. first of all, for those people out there who may not be following this as closely as you business folks do, am i wrong to think of this as being like someone whose personal score or credit rating, except in this case, we're talking about the whole country? >> yes. what we're telling you about is whether or not the u.s. debt will be seen as riskier in the

markets. we're not seeing that right now. we're seeing essentially the u.s. debt still considered a safe haven status. the reason why it matters to the folks out there is that all of our borrowing rates, like mortgages and credit cards, are a peg to the u.s. treasury note of ten years. that's been trending down, he is close to 2.6 after dropping to 2.6 on friday in trading. we're watching that action very closely. we're waiting to see what the estimates could be. we're hearing anywhere from a half point higher to as much as a full percentage point higher. but again, the treasury note is still at historic lows. back to you. >> rick: i was reading that this could affect people when they go to borrow money. they go to borrow money for a car or for college. how quickly until the sort of ripple effects start to have an effect on people's pocketbooks? >> it could happen pretty quickly if the markets are convinced that s & p is going to

possibly downgrade us even a notch further, down to aa status. right now only one other country has a double a plus and triple a from moody's and that is new zealand. the issue is also what's royaling the markets is the potential that s & p again could pursue a downgrade, possibly of the other triple a countries that are still out there, certainly in the euro zone. that's essentially what we're hearing is why the central bankers in europe are meeting, because they are expressing reported concern over what s & p's next move will be. >> rick: all this talk about aa and aaaa. i wish we were talking about baseball. a lot more fun. thanks so much. the s & p had a sovereign rating. david beers has been warning of the credit downgrade for months and he will be chris wallace's guest on sunday. >> heather: the economy also the

focus of the president's weekly address. >> our job right now has to be doing what ever we can to help folks find work, to help create the climate or business can put up that job listing, where incomes are rising again for people. we've got to rebuild this economy and the sense of security that middle class families have felt slipping away for years. while deficit reduction has to be part of our economic strategy, it's not the only thing we have to do. >> heather: republican congressman michael brim of new york firing right back. >> my question for washington is this: how many more jobs reports will it take before we change course? what will it take for all of us to just say enough? for the sake of our economy, i'm urging the president to wake up to reality, abanden his failed policies and join republicans in the hard work needed to turn our country around and create jobs. >> heather: congressman grim is also calling for lawmakers to

pass a balanced budget constitutional amendment. a gop house measure that failed during the recent fight over the debt limit. >> rick: switching gears and talking about the weather and tropical storm emily, breaking up over the bahamas, but the national hurricane center says there is an 80% chance the storm reforms over the next couple of days. reappearing as a tropical depression as it moves into the open atlantic ocean. meantime, drought is now affecting an area over a million square miles, 32% of the lower 48 states, the situation is particularly awful in the south where they're in their 34th day of triple digit temperatures and the intense heat there also creating the threat of rolling blackouts. in midland, texas, the power grid reached emergency energy alert level 2. that's one step away from some real serious trouble. >> level 3 is where you actually

come to the rolling outages and the purpose of those rolling outages is to avoid the grid go down all together. if it went down all together, it would take days or weeks possibly to get the grid back up and we would be totally in the black. >> rick: texas is under exceptional drought conditions. >> heather: rick, while drought scorches parts of the southwest, water logged is cholate. more than six inches of rain fell over a couple hours. the flooding so bad in spots, the people had to be rescued by boat. >> we got two boats out here. one is going left as far as they can go, one is going right as far as they can go. we're evacuating people now. the houses are flooding. we have some that are refusing to come out. we're telling them that

conditions are getting worse. water is rising. we may not be able to get back to them. >> heather: bad situations. several creeks in the area are still above flood stage today. flash flood warning remains in effect for parts of that area. >> rick: heather, i hope your family and friends are okay down there. not the case, unfortunately, for a woman in north carolina. dying in one of those rain storms on friday. police say 43-year-old gracie johnson drowned while running from officers who were investigating a report of shoplifting. the police chief says the two other suspects ran off with her. >> all three went into the water. the loss prevention officer managed to come out of the water. we do believe that the two females remained in the water. we have recovered one body. >> rick: even if they did commit that crime, they didn't deserve this. the third suspect is still missing after being swept away by fast moving water. >> heather: powerful typhoon is

bearing down on china's east coast. huge waves, choppy seas are arriving ahead of the massive storm. the typhoon is forecast to make landfall, perhaps sometime sunday. more than 200,000 people are in the danger zone. they've been evacuated to higher ground. the typhoon is packing winds over 100 miles per hour and it's already battered the philippines, taiwan, and japan. >> rick: to the middle east where more than 100,000 israelis took to the streets across the country today. they're protesting the increasing cost of living and the growing gap between the rich and the poor. the huge show of force by the demonstrators is posing a challenge to the government. dominic is live for us in tel aviv, israel. >> rick, past midnight in tel aviv, a short while ago, it was full of people protesting against the government of netanyahu. there was some estimated 250,000

people who took to the street. there is 5% of the population of israel. a massive show of force. i caught up with one of the founders of the protest movement and asked her how did it come to all of this? >> what we're doing now is protest about housing and everything, education, our health system, about welfare state. >> it's also the cost of living, the cost of fuel, the cost of food now as well. >> yeah. i mean, this is one of many. in the last three weeks, we learned that everyone in israel really feels the same. we feel like we can't really think about our future here. >> we're trying to achieve regime change? n it's not about the government. it's about the system. we don't want to change the government because all the other governments didn't help us. it's about playing a different game. we're not against free market and it's not against capitalism. it's all okay, but we want to

have a certain control over our economy because at the moment, our economy doesn't help us as citizens to live here. >> no response tonight from the government. but it is after all the weekend. they will be paying close attention to this huge show of force, no doubt. one of the banners that was being waved tonight said, resign, egypt is here. no doubt very much support for the government. >> rick: dom in this case, thanks. alarm bells ringing in washington after america takes a hit to its credit rating. one law maker isn't too surprised. he says he saw it coming. shouldn't all of us? he joins us next. plus, a dangerous new threat growing in american cities. you may have heard of flash mobs. they're terrorizing neighborhoods across the country. what's being done to crack down on the violence. my doctor told me calcium

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>> rick: if you're just catching up with the news on this saturday, it's a busy news day. 30 american troops killed in a helicopter crash in afghanistan. the taliban claiming it downed the chopper with rocket fire. no confirmation of that. the central figure in the abuse of iraqi detainees in abu grahd is a free man. charles grainer released from a military prison after serving more than 6 1/2 years. and new york creating 30 exhibits marking 9-11, part of a building, a new york fire department truck and pieces of two airliners will be on display

through late september. >> heather: the downgrade to america's exalted credit status, the financial wake-up call heard around the world. but our next guest warned it could happen. he said it months ago. but says that congress pressed the snooze button. congressman tim camp, republican of kansas, joins us. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> heather: in april, i think it was back at least april 18, the s & p threatened that we were on our way to a downgrade. at that time, you said that the threat of a downgrade should be a wake-up call, like we just said. so what happened? >> well, they hit the snooze button in washington. s & p warned us if we didn't make significant changes in our spending patterns, then we would have this potential downgrade. washington spent the last two or three months being drug around by the administration suggesting if it's all about default, the real issue is about downgrade. there was not going to be a

default. but now because of our inability to make the necessary spending cuts, we have this downgrade at least by one of the credit rating agencies. >> heather: speaking of the spending cut, you broke with speaker boehner. you voted against the debt deal. why? >> it wasn't enough. this is exactly what we expected to happen. this is what we were warned would happen. again, no default. it would be a downgrade. we were told at least cut $4 trillion. what most americans think, spending cuts were going to come quickly. but the final bill that was signed by president obama only made approximately 50 to $60 billion in cuts in the first two years. the rest of the cuts were out years. but the credit rating agencies were willing to assume we'd make the remainder of those cuts over the next decade. we're looking at a long-term plan, obviously. and they weren't immediate cuts, but we need to do have something significant in the first year or two because frankly, you can't

expect future congresses to do what previous congresses have never done and that's balance the budget. >> heather: depending on who you listen to today, there is a lot of back and forth going on, democrats, like harry reid, nancy pelosi, saying that this is a sign that we should raise taxes or increase revenues. in fact, here is what harry reid said. the action by s & p reaffirms the need for balanced approach, to deficit reduction. he talked about that. that combines spending cuts with revenue raising measures. corporate jet owners, talking about that again. so which is it? or is it a combination of both? revenues and spending cuts? >> well, there is a simple solution, as reagan used to say, not an easy one. and frankly, we just spend too much money. the statements coming from president obama and senator reid come from the same folks that ran nearly a trillion dollars up on a stimulus package that's been a complete failure. and after a trillion dollars worth of spending and borrowing, we have 9.1% employment.

the idea now that they want to come in and have massive tax increases is going to continue to spell economic growth. we have regulatory uncertainty. if you want to get more revenue, mr. reid and mr. obama, let entrepreneurs create more revenue by backing off your regulatory action that are unprecedented at the level this administration is pushing those through. so there is a simple solution. that's for washington to do less, not to do more as the president would have us believe. >> heather: let's take a look at this. in the s & p statement, another portion, they very clearly said that the reason for the downgrade was congressional dysfunction and here it goes further, we lowered our long-term rating on the u.s. because we believe the controversy over the debate indicate that further near term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements or reaching on agreement on raising revenues is

less likely than we previously assumed. how do we resolve this? how do we fix the congressional dysfunction? >> i am hopeful that when members of the congress, particularly the senate, go home for a few weeks, and actually listen to the american people, i conducted 64 town halls in my district. they're clear. cut it now and midterm and long-term, pass a balanced budget emmy award. make sure the world knows we're serious about our problem. italy is going down that track. italy, the last few years they did what they need to do do. a balanced budget amendment is necessary to assure the world we're really serious about this. again, the cuts that were proposed were minimal. they were minuscule. they were less than 1% of the deficit this year. however, if we could pass a balanced budget amendment, it would provide those assurances that later congresses couldn't undo the cuts we need to make to balance our budget and move along the trajectory that will

ashower our creditors that we're serious about getting our fiscal house in order. >> heather: maybe this will encourage that super congress to come up with more than $1.2 trillion in cuts by thanksgiving. what do you think about that? >> unless they're willing to debate entitlements, the house passed a budget that made significant long-term changes to actually protect medicare and social security by making reforms to make it workable, that's where we had the problem. >> heather: all right. >> when you have president obama and senator reid refusing to touch entitlements, we can't touch the problem. >> heather: we'll see what the president has to say, if he says anything about this on monday. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> rick: there is now a black mark on america's perfect credit score. but the political fallout still to be determined. we'll talk about what that might mean with a democrat and republican when we come right back. >> heather: a camera on a bus. we showed you this, it captured a dangerous shooting. it helped catch these suspects. but the cameras like these may not be around if another

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>> heather: it is the bottom of the hour. time for the top of the news. a u.s. military helicopter crashing in afghanistan, killing 30 americans. the taliban claiming that it downed the chopper with rocket fire. >> rick: government leaders in syria promising free elections by the end of the year. this comes as the military crackdown against antigovernment protests grows more violent by the day. the state department recommending all americans in syria to leave the country for their own safety. >> heather: and texas governor rick perry speaking to more than 30,000 evangelical christians in a national prayer rally in houston. his message, asking people to turn to god to help save the nation's problems. >> rick: standard and poors not afraid to point fingers in explaining why it downgraded

america's credit rating. they're blaming washington for its inability to get our massive debt under control. decision rocking the capitol, spark ago political fire storm. adam goal service is a pollster and former pollster for chris christie. david, as a democrat, let me start with you because this is now president obama becomes the first president to have the u.s. credit rating downgraded on his watch ever. how damaging is that? >> i think it hurts all of us. it's going to hurt us in terms of increased -- >> rick: hold on. one second, david. we're talking politics. i want to know how damaging this is to the president of the united states who had this happen on his watch. >> i think he is going to pull through it. if you're referring to 2012 in the upcoming elections, 18 months from now, i think this president, as he has tried to

lead this country, as he and geithner and others warned of what would happen if we monkeyed around with agreeing to pay the debt we already had, which three quarters came from the bush era with two wars off the books, taxes for the rich, and millionaires and billionaires, all off the books, now we're having to pay the piper, but we got into this big debate of are we going to pay it or not? let's talk about -- >> rick: adam, adam. when you're president and good stuff happens, like bin laden is killed, you get the credit. but when you're president and bad stuff happens, like this, you get the blame. don't you? >> isn't it funny? these guys crack me up. everything is -- from the left, it's always blaming somebody else. blaming bush, blaming the tea party. now watch. s & p is going to be called terrorists for holding our credit rating hostage or something like this. it's going to be these crazy dnc talking points. here is the answer to your question, rick: it's a monumental problem for obama. it happened on his watch,

period. there has been partisanship before. there has been gridlock before. there has been overspending before. but this time it's different because this is a guy that's taking this country fundamentally to the left. he's turning us into a european socialist country and that's why our credit rating has gone down and by the way, now interest rates get higher, borrowing gets harder. our deficit gets larger. we are on a downward slope, people. it's not going to get any better any time soon. >> every american family knows the republicans got this backward. you pay your bill, whether these visa, mastercard and you then you discuss how you pay it. you don't, in front of the credit agency, go out and have this big dialogue. you have to -- >> david, david, no, no, no. what the democrats want to do is raise their credit limit. you want to get a new credit card! you want to raise it. >> downgrade came from s & p. >> rick: let's bring in -- the president is going to try and --

gentlemen. one second. yesterday the president said that he would like to sort of share the blame for the state of the economy, talking about it as being a republican problem as well as a democrat problem. this poll from cbs news/"new york times" this past week shows congressional approval rating. look at that. and adam, in all fairness, the republicans control the house of representatives. do they not deserve any of the blame here? >> well, first of all, there is a few things about that poll. number one, disapproval of congress is always high. it doesn't mean anything. there is no correlation between what happens on election day. presidential job approval numbers are much more meaningful. but you know what i was looking at that poll. it's a national poll by the "new york times" and guess what? it skews democrats. surprise, surprise. it's a 12 point democrat advantage where normal polls like gallup, rasmussen and the like have is a two point spread. it's relatively even with a lot more independents. so this "new york times" poll,

not worth the paper it's printed on. skewed democrat, it's worthless. it's meaningless and by the way, rick, to be fair, of course, people disapprove of what's going on in washington. it's no surprise. but barak obama's job approval rating is 40% and among independents it's in the 30s. that's trouble for him! >> rick: david, let me ask you, does the president need to shuffle some chairs on the deck -- i don't mean to be trite here, but seriously, is somebody going to lose their job as a result of this? tim geithner, for example. >> look, this happened because in three months we had agreed to pay our bills, bills that have come over the last ten, 12 years, if we said yes, we're paying our bill, then moved on to negotiations on spending or raising tax revenues, we would not be dealing with this standard and poors rating right now. >> tim geithner said this wasn't going to happen. >> let me finish, adam. when they pay their bill, they

don't have to worry about looming credit hovering over them. they move on and they get their house in order. >> rick: adam, the last word. >> now we're going to offer higher rates. >> in april, tim geithner guaranteed it's not going to happen. >> they just imposed a tax on us for all their shenanigans. >> rick: adam, last word. >> tim geithner guaranteed this wasn't going to happen in april, so he should be removed immediately. >> he didn't account for the obstacles in the republicans. >> the republicans are heros for stopping the tax increases and the ridiculous spending. guess what? we've got 15 months to go. help is on its way. november 2012 in january of 2013. >> rick: gentlemen, maybe we should put you on the super committee in washington. you can sit down. we'll give you a couple of sandwiches and work out a deal. adam, david, guy, thanks so much. lively debate. >> pleasure to be with you. >> heather: and from one lively debate to an angry flash mob,

sparking violent streets. the mayhem in philadelphia sweeping through city streets like a tornado. flash mobs are nothing new, but usually when you hear about them, you hear they're fun and peaceful. peaceful gathering of people. but now some are turning ugly, turning into this, forcing authorities to take swift action. julie banderas is live in our new york city news room with more on this. hi. >> they are not so fun anymore. these so-called flash mobs have taken a dangerous turn as hundreds of teen-agers looking for trouble are using the ritual to bully others. by terrorizing neighborhoods, assaulting pedestrians, vandalizing property. in fact, 11-year-old boy in philadelphia is among the most recent group of youngsters arrested recently knocking over whatever was in front of them and targeting pedestrians at random, prompting the city to crack down on these juveniles. the mayor will be announcing new plan on monday, which includes

assigning more law enforcement to the downtown area, enforcing the curfew already in place, and warning parents that they will be held legally responsible for their children's actions. philadelphia officials have begun getting help from the federal bureau of investigation to monitor social media networks. but that is harder than you might think. >> police officials are finding is that it's not twitter or the other social media. it's really individuals texting other individuals who then text four, five friends. it's almost a phone tree that sprouts out and before you know it, you've got 20 or 30 kids congregating on the corner of x and y intersections. >> flash mobs are not unique to philadelphia. in six months, they have become frequent in other cities, from new jersey and washington, d.c., to chicago, chattanooga, las vegas, and st. paul. it really is a nationwide problem. >> heather: thank you very much, julie banderas reporting. >> rick: dramatic video of a

terrifying scene on a bus in philadelphia captured by high-tech cameras. but it might not happen again because the contract with the company that supplies those cameras is about to run out. take a look at these pictures. you might have seen them in the last couple of days. two men armed with guns shooting into a bus full of passengers. this happened back in june. according to the police, the situation escalated when a woman got mad. but another passenger on the bus criticized her for spanking her child. they say the child's mother then called those friends asking them to come with their weapons and shoot the passenger when the bus got to a stop. now the men jumped on the bus, the bullets began to fly, the suspects go on trial at the end of this month. kris jenner went under the knife on national tv. maybe you saw it. a cosmetic company that she endorsed is not happy with the mother of all those kardashian kids. wait until you hear her defense. it's on the docket for our legal panel straight ahead.

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>> heather: call can the neck skin defense. had is no joke. a cosmetic company seussing kris kardashian, claiming her plastic surgery televised was a breach of their contract. but jenner says they have no right to sue because mama kardashian says she had work done to her neck, not her face. legal panel joins us. an interesting case. the company based out of ohio, it's a bp company suing for $2 million. they're taking this seriously. $2 million face lift. >> first of all, if we're talking about face lifts and neck lift, whatever. but moving aside my personal issues with it, they may actually have is a case because they paid her $305,000 to be out

there and be a spokesperson for them and a couple months after, she signed the contract, she goes and gets this neck lift, face lift and whatever, and you can't be out there touting frownies, that's the line, and beautiful eyes if what you're really doing is getting a face lift. now, are they going to get $2 million? i think that's a far, far reach. and especially 'cause now they're saying this woman, you can't get a face lift if you want it? >> what do you think? >> i'm going to take the devil's advocate position. she's going to say wait a minute, you contracted me for the eyes. i had no work done on my eyes. i had work done on my neck. frankly, there is so much footage, you got the footage on the film. i'm sure if she wants to give over her medical documentation that shows none of this was done on her face and only on her neck -- >> heather: part of the thing with the frownies is they do tout a natural resolution to these issues. and they say you don't need a

plastic surgeon you and don't need plastic surgery. so it's kind of the opposite. >> she's adding insult to injury in one of the reasons she did this, is she can be touted the plastic surgeon, so he'll be out saying this is the best guy in the world. so how can you be saying plastic surgery is the way to go, but -- >> wait a minute, say, this is my life, this is my body. >> but i think if she goes down to the contract, i haven't harmed the company. i'm still using your eye product. >> sure, they're going to turn around and say, listen, what you're really telegraphing is this doesn't work and that's why i had to go under the knife. i think if she shows the surgery was very specific, that she didn't touch her face, this she still uses the product -- she's

beautiful. >> heather: you mentioned there is all the footage that clearly shows, because it's on one of the many kardashian shows wrappr neck >> i think what the company is upset about in reading the complaint here is that, lady, you should have told us this before you took our $305,000. >> heather: didn't they know what they were getting with that? >> bruce had one or two face lifts. >> she has a financial incentive to make sure this goes well. so she's going to say, i don't would i harm the product, if i have a financial incentive? >> unless the plastic surgeon was going to pay her more. maybe that was a better offer. >> we'll have to see. >> heather: and on tv. >> i feel like i should have done this whole segment like this. >> heather: thank you guys. thanks very much. very interesting stuff. rick. >> rick: none of y'all had frownies or whatever they're

called. >> thank you. >> rick: when we come back, a group of 12 lawmakers will soon debate how to cut $1.5 trillion from our nation's deficit over ten years. and if they can't agree, deep cuts go into effect automatically. make programs like medicare, what american voters are saying about that scenario, when we come right back. t heartburn, third day this week.

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>> rick: 100, we still love lucy. friends, family and fans of lucille ball came out to celebrate last night with what would have been her 100th birthday today. a museum in hollywood opening up an exhibit in her honor. lucille ball at 100. many call "i love lucy" the greatest comedy in history. it was a favorite in our house growing up. the collaboration paired lucy with her husband at the time, desiarnaz. she died in 1989 at the age of 77. >> heather: part of the resolution to this week's debt limit battle was the creation of a 12-member congressional super committee. the committee will be tasked with finding hopefully 1 1/2

trillion dollars in additional deficit reductions over a decade. but if they can't agree, automatic cuts go into effect. >> rick: a new poll shows more than half of americans oppose the idea of those automatic cuts. joining us now is scott rasmussen. always good to talk to you. thanks very much. we have your poll on that up on the screen. we did a second ago. americans don't like the idea of those cuts being implemented automatically if a deal is not reached. >> that's right. just 29% support it. the american people believe it's possible to make thoughtful spending cuts in medicare without harming quality of care. they think you can make thoughtful cuts in defense without putting the nation at risk. they don't think you can do it on auto pilot and don't have any trust in the process. >> heather: what about the debt deal in general, how do people feel about that? do they even really understand it? it pushed through so quickly. >> 22% say they like it. 53% don't. republicans and unaffiliated

voters by a four to one margin say it's bad. democrats are pretty evenly defeated. this trust issue comes in. in that deal, they said we're going to cut spending right now by a trillion dollars, hardly anybody believes that's really going to happen. they think the cuts will never materialize. >> rick: i want to ask you about that because we heard from the s & p that the reason why our credit rating has been downgraded is because the cuts that were agreed on simply weren't enough. they were looking for something more in the neighborhood of $4 trillion. we didn't come near that with this debt deal. what do americans think? how optimistic are they that these additional cuts are going to come about? >> they're not at all optimistic. look, government spending has gone up every year in america since 1954. some years it's faster, some years it's a little slower. but this is the underlying problem that voters are frustrated about. and right now, there is a growing awareness of the reality. 40% know that despite all the

talk of spending cuts, spending will be higher in a few years. 34% think it will be about the same. only one in six think that really spending will go down. the terminology they use in washington is designed to deceive. >> heather: the spending cuts being part of the problem, a lot of folks also thinking that perhaps the administration is part of the problem. correct? >> well, that's right. look, president obama is getting poor marks for handling the economy. when a baseball team goes in the slump, you blame the manager. 50% now say the president is doing a poor job and the economy, that matches the worst total of his administration. >> rick: and what about the congress who played a large role in the debt deal that eventually came to pass, what do people think about congress? >> you just can't really go much lower. only 6% single digit, 6%, say the congress is doing a good or excellent job. 61% say poor. by the way, we asked people if your vote could keep or replace

the entire congress what, would you do? 62% say send them all packing. only 15% would keep them in place. >> rick: scott rasmussen, always good to talk to you. thanks for your time. >> heather: thanks, scott. >> thank you. talk again soon. >> rick: that does it for us. that was a fun couple of hours. >> heather: yeah. >> rick: lots more straight ahead. >> heather: arthel neville and art sean up next. >> rick: they'll have the latest on the chopper crash in afghanistan and the rest of the news as well. >> heather: bye, thank you for joining us. [ male announcer ] this is coach parker... whose non-stop day starts with back pain... and a choice.

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