>> it's very big day to see what happens, what the downgrade means, juliet, thanks for filling in. >> my pleasure. >> log on to foxnews.com for after the show show we'll see you back here tomorrow morning. services, inc. >> the after shocks of financial earthquake are being felt around the world. the stock market in israel one of the first to open since standard and poors knocked the credit rating down a notch. and tel aviv shows tumbling. that is signalling a sell off. good morning everyone i'm jamie colby. we got it all covered for you. well tomorrow to america's news headquarters. >> we are hearing that the global financial officials are holding an emergency conference call right now trying to contain any more damage. these are white knuckle moments for investors and all of us across the country as bracing for the world markets to open

tomorrow. and repeat of the blood bath that we saw last week. fox senior business correspondent brenda buttner. we hear that ennuis decreal the stocks are down 5% could that happen here tomorrow morning when wall street opens? >> that is significant. because this is first real tell we've had since s&p 500 downgraded our debt in an historic fall for the united states. but israel is important because there are many tech stocks that americans are very interested in. but a couple of things, first of all it was s&p 500 only that downgraded the -- our debt. and it looks like people are actually may be rushing to safety which is just the opposite of what you might think.

so it's hard to say. anybody who says that they know what's going to happen tomorrow doesn't know, period. because we've got people rushing to treasuries. which brings interest rates down, traditional low we think that interest rates would go up after this. because when your credit rating goes down, you pay more for money. so, it's really hard to know at this juncture exactly what is going to happen. some stocks are cheaper, some people may jump in. warren buffet says we should have quadruple rating and he was one of the ones along with peter lynch who in past blood baths in the world war kit jumped in. how i wouldn't jump in before him or be the first one in there but if there is a midge or invest or who says, there's bargains in here, maybe there are. >> look about eight hours from now the markets in asia will

open if you are going down in the middle east it could be going down in asia before the opening bell tomorrow morning. the s&p 500 which struck me there was lack of a long term plan to reduce the debt. they call it political gridlock so why won't washington come up with a long term plan unless they get one it seems they're on this roller coaster ride. >> well, that's a great question, eric, you should be down there on the congressionaller from. because those are the questions that should be answered. the thing that bothered s&p 500 so much was not just the amount of debt. but the way that we were dealing with it. a committee? a joint committee again? what is that going to do. how many committees have we had to deal with the debt and nothing has come of it. and that's the real concern. first of all there was not enough debt that was sheered from the budget and second of all, that the answer was, put a

whole bunch of these guys in a room and they will come up with something. well they have been trying do that for awhile. also very interesting that this is used as a threat by the administration that if we get a downgrade, unless we get a deal we'll get a downgrade. we got a deal. we got a downgrade. who knows at this point. >> the s&p 500 is still threatened to downgrade even more they want four trillion cut, the politicians in washington only cut two trillion. >> remember, two of the big rating agencies, mood de's and fitch have not. they reaffirmed their support for the u.s. >> keep in mind the s&p 500 is only one we'll see if mood des follows. broken darks good to talk to you, keeping an eye on this. >> okay, thank you. >> lot more including financial leaders from the group of seven leading economies, they're holding a conference call tomorrow morning they will discuss the stability of the

global financial system in the wake of the u.s. downgrade. that's according to reports outgave pan. the call would come ahead of the opening of markets in asia and the fear of course is that the downgrade of the u.s. credit rating will send ripple effects throughout other economies. leaders taking part in the call will also discuss the debt crisis in europe. >> what exactly these ratings mean, triple-a, double-a all this. let's take look how standard and poor's defines it. the highest rating triple-a, the borrower has he can tremendously strong capacity to meet financial commitments. the s&p 500 or given it to us since 1917. they stripped it from us on friday. one notch down is double-a. suggests a very strong capacity to pay back money. next up is single a, those borrowers have strong capacity to meet financial obligations

but more vulnerable to changing economic conditions. then triple-b is considered the lowest grade suitable for investors and for the record. the worst you can get is a d, that signifies potential financial default. >> one of the first casualties of the standard and poor's credit downgrade, it could be treasury secretary timoney geithner. a growing number of republicans and they're saying he must go. will he get the boot. bob is managing editor of "the harold" good morning. >> how are you? >> the majority leader. i'm great. i'm curious how timothy geithner is doing right now because majority speaker boehner, he wants him to go he's been very vocal then san for jim demin said that treasury secretary geithner if he doesn't resign basically his opposition to serious spending and debt reform has been reckless. how big a risk if geithner stays? >> i think that he's under a lot of pressure.

liberals have not liked geithner they were trying to get him out last year. and speaker john boehner also called for his resignation last year, reiterate that yesterday. now growing chorus of it. geithner the reports have been mixed that he's thinking about going. but he is actually out last add lot of obama's other economic advisors including chris nina romar and others. who is left. who would replace him. the nomination process could be very messy. geithner has been a bit too optimistic about the economy. the administration thought the economy would be better, remember the recovery summer last year this they talked about. it has not panned out as well as administration has thought. geithner is one of the managers, new he's taken the heat and lot of analyst think that's fair. >> he's taking heat but pinning the finger at congress. he hasn't taken responsibility. in fact he told fox business awhile back when he was asked whether or not there would be downgrade. whether we keep our triple-a rating he said, quote,

absolutely. what now? >> that's right. that's the judgment that lawmakers are questioning now to put out those statements for this to lap, the treasury department was talking to s&p 500 and other credit rating agencies to lobby them not to downgrade the u.s. credit rating. he does want reform, these been frustrated by the commissions but both members on liberal side and conservative side are very frustrated with him. remains to be seen whether he will lead. but at the same time if he leaves now looks like he will be pushed out and president obama and public statements over last couple years has been very supportive of geithner. i think that will continue this week. that's within to watch this week. >> he's been called to leave before after the 2008 financial crisis if i recall and also they appointed to the investigation that went on after the aig bail out. if congress, both sides of the

aisle does not look to him to take full responsibility, partial resystemsability even some responsibility what could be the fall out for them come 2012. >> i also think a political fall out for president obama if geithner is a liability and awhile back it looked like he was going to leave, he was under a lot of pressure to leave. obama chose, i'm going to support my treasury secretary. i think that he's probably going to go to bat for him again. but at the same time if there's more and more members, bum beat continues then obama will have to make a decision with this stock market also this week, if it plunges again in the wake of this downgrade that geithner did not think would happen. i think there's going to be a lot of finger pointing. washington is very good at that that's not going to stop any time soon. >> you're right about that. i appreciate your insights today. good to see you. have a great day. >> thanks. >> new developments out of afghanistan this morning. that after the u.s. military

suffered its single biggest loss of the war there. at least 30 u.s. troops were killed after their helicopter crashed in eastern cavs, it was apparently shot out of the sky by the taliban. most of those killed, navy seals who were part of seal team six the unit that carried out the raid killing osama bin laden but it's believed that none of the seals actually took part were killed in the tragic crash. the hearts and prayers of our nation are with the victims and their families, there is no let up on the ground there. right now there is intense fighting breaking out in the same area where that chopper went down. conor powell streaming latest with the very latest. >> good morning. there were operations to recover this downed chinook helicopter is underway. talking to the military they stay is process that could likely take several days because of the fighting, because of the remoteness of the area, this is a difficult area where the taliban have real strong

presence there. an area where taliban has long battled u.s. and international forces and this latest operation that went so wrong is just series, latest in series of operations that the u.s. tried to target the taliban there. now, as recovery operation is underway we're getting new information about what exactly happened. according to the taliban they were very quick to claim credit for shooting down this chinook helicopter yesterday, they say that they shot it down with a rocket propelled grenade as it was beginning to come in to an area where the taliban had a compound, it's believed that this helicopter was part of a force that was about to launch -- part of a raid on this compound on this taliban compound, not exactly clear if this was a helicopter that was coming in support or if was the initial helicopter as part of the raid that something we're still trying to determine. now also u.s. military has not officially confirmed that it was shot down but they are saying that it appears the helicopter was shot down, that it was not a

mechanical problem. one of the big unanswered questions was, why were there so many navy seals and special operation forces on one single helicopter, according to military officials it is very rare that they pile that many special operations troops on one single helicopter for the very reason that it could get shot down or could crash and lose so many in one accident. that's one of the big questions that's being asked right now but this is a devastating day and weekend for the u.s. special operations forces here in afghanistan. >> that it is. our hearts and prayers as we said are with victims and their families. and just shows exactly the threats and dangers that we face there every day. thank you. we are learning, new details about some of the lives of the heroic navy seals that were killed yesterday. one of those seals is aaron carson vaughn, he's from tennessee. he had asked the military to return him to combat, he just shipped out six weeks ago. he was also a proud new father

of a two month old girl. vaughn's grandmother says, she is honored by his actions. >> i'm very proud of him. he was such a good boy and he loved his country enough to put his life on the line. i talked to him on his birthday he said, granny, he said, don't worry about me. i'm not afraid. because i know where i'm going. >> vaughn was a decorated navy seal he recently was offered a noncombat role as instructor but guess what, he turned that down in order to go back and serve our country on the front lines. >> we're learning more this american about the violent riots in london, it sent a police officer to the hospital and atelier's seven others. protesters storming the streets in london yesterday, one of the city's poorest areas. actually set fire to two patrol cars and double-decker bus and a

building. this is right in front of the police station. the rioters, what did they want? demanding justice for man who was shot to death by police. that man was also a suspected gangster. later this hour we'll have live all right from london on that situation right now. >> there's new violence in sear why as cracked down. >> forces killed at least four more people as people is trying to crush the continuing uprising. so far reports say more than 16 0 people. meanwhile the u.s. telling americans to get out of syria. >> good morning, ambassador. >> good morning, glad to be here. how do we stop it.

>> i think the united states should have been long ago but at least now should be much clearer that its objective is over throwing the regime. we should pull our ambassador out, recognize the government do with we can in financial terms to aid the opposition. i think the reason that the obama administration has not done that is heavy involvement of iran in supporting the hassad regime. and obama administration more than anything else at this point does not want to do something that will interfere with the possibility of negotiation with tehran over its nuclear program as absurd as that may seem. >> you talk about negotiating the nuclear program. look what they tried so far. you got four u.n. resolutions, where has that gotten us? >> this is a good example of i think the failure of much of the

administration's foreign policy, notion that you just sit down at a table and people are reasonable, everything gets worked out. ask the 1600 to 2,000 people innocent civilians dead in syria now while administration hesitated, faltered so-called hassad reformer. this is a very serious situation for iran and it's one reason why they're prepared to shed a lot of syrian blood to keep the regime in power. they want that satellite regime there, they want the control overseer i can't. they want the control they have through the terrorist group hezbollah and lebanon. and i don't see that changing without a major shift by the united states hopefully by the europeans as well. >> you don't see that major shift coming apparently. why would they be afraid to step on tehran's toes, some would say, that would give them hard line message and police to start is damascus. >> exactly. while we're on the subject i think our policy ought to be overthrow the regime in tehran,

too. but the administration knows that if it takes on iran directly it can probably kiss goodbye forever the possibility of that open hand from iran that president obama sought in his inaugural address back in 2009. i think that is what has inhibited the administration more than anything else. i think it was a mistake to begin with or be inhibited now. the sooner we junk that idea the better off we'd be. the better chance we would have and syrian opposition would have in over throwing hassad. >> do you think they will stay or go? >> i'd have to bet at this point he'll stay. there's no evidence yet that the syrian military has begun to fragment or turn against hassad i think that's a possibility given complex internal politics of sear california but atelier's as far as i can tell there's no evidence yet military has begun to break. >> all right. u.s. ambassador with his prediction. always good to see you.

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>> though took a closer look at john edwards campaign. and they found that he has to pay more than $2.2 million, at least the campaign does to the u.s. treasury. federal election commission report claiming the campaign improperly received federal

funds, a committee for the campaign disputes the assessment but -- it is that assessment separate from other legal troubles that edwards is facing. in june, john edwards pleaded not guilty to breaking campaign finance law, that was concerning the cover up of his extra marital affair. you may remember she's the campaign photographer with whom he fathered a little girl, there they are. >> joining us financial leaders from the world's biggest economies, working to try to contain the fall out after standard and poor's downgraded the u.s. credit rating. this morning, chris wallace talked with david bears from standard and mr.'s asked him which political party is most responsible. >> chris, in this country, both congress and administration are jointly response i will for the conduct of fiscal policy. and this is really not about either political party. >> do you need to see a mix,

does any compromise have to have both entitlement reform to be credible? >> well, we think credibility would mean that it would -- any agreement would command support from both political parties. the key thing is, yes, entitlement reform is important because entitlement is the biggest -- the biggest component of spending. rand the part of spending where the cost pressures are greatest. >> joining us now is the anchor of "fox news sunday," chris wallace, good morning. >> good morning, eric. >> i guess the question everyone around the country is asking this morning is, how did we get our rating back? >> well, we've -- it's interesting, because if you read the report that s&p 500 put out it was more about the political dysfunction, the deadlock in this town than it was about economic numbers. yes we have a big debt problem. but what they were really commenting on the reason for the

downgrade was because the system here in washington, they certainly were not picking sides, republicans or democrats saying everything is not dealing with the problem, they're not able to address it. i asked him, this is pretty troubling, i said, which is more likely that we will get our triple-a credit rating back or that we will be downgraded further. he said the latter. he said that we downgraded with it a negative and the negative means that the outlook is further downgrade, not to say that they're going to happen but further down grades are more likely than upgrade. >> that would be extremely troubling. you're right, the s&p said there's a gulf between the political parties, they call it the political gridlock. main point that i looked at they say there's a lack of long term plan to reduce the debt. are we ever going to get along term machine to reduce the debt do you any. >> one of the things, this is a sad moment it's a moment i think

people should think about. the first time in the history of this country that our credit rating has been downgraded. that means that according to s and p you can argue two other rating services that haven't done it, they're saying that u.s. treasury bonds are no longer one of the safest investments in the world. that's quite a statement. all you can hope is that the combination of this and perhaps more turmoil in the markets will shake washington and get people willing to make compromises. it was interesting when he was talking about revenues or entitlements he particularly talked about revenues -- rather about entitlements, what he was saying is that these unfunded liabilities, trillions of dollars in medicare and medicaid and social security that that is the biggest driver of the debt and we got to get those under control. maybe revenue has to be part of it but that the entitlement reform is the biggest driver of this continuing debt. >> that is the message from s&.

the chilling, stunning message we'll see if both houses of congress and president will get that. >> and the president, got to include him in this, too. >> absolutely. the buck stops there. chris, always good to see you. >> thanks, eric. >> the interview, you can see that today on "fox news sunday." chris will talk exclusively with congress than paul ryan, chairman of the house budget committee and bill miller, the chief investment officer with capital management. money, money, money. and what it means for us, "fox news sunday" here on the fox news channel at 2:00 and 6:00 later on tonight. >> that's true. trying to hold on to our money. how about this story, three siblings, they're not spending time together, they're on the run from the fbi. bizarre story behind what they're 'could youd of and why their mom is the one begging them to turn themselves in. also, how should the u.s. respond after the taliban apparently shot down a nato helicopter killing 30 american

troops. we're live with reaction from washington. stay with us. we'll be right back.

>> welcome back. normally at this time the doctor is under the weather today. we will see him again, no worries. right now here is some other news that we're following. right now the fbi i was telling you they're hunting down three florida siblings, they're accused of robbing a bank and shooting at police during the high speed chase. the mother of the three teens begging them to turn themselves in. china's bracing for the arrival of a powerful typhoon it's expected to make landfall later today. thousands of people along the country's east coast are being evacuated. and six people are killed after a series of car bombs rock central iraq today, the attack 30 miles south of baghdad, that's $one of the most -- during the height insurgency.

>> it is the deadliest incident since war in afghanistan began it has heartbreaking results. 30 u.s. service members were killed including 22 navy seals from seal team six. when their helicopter crashed in eastern afghanistan. the chopper apparently shot down by the taliban, though that is not yet confirmed. leaders in washington this american speaking out about highway how we should respond. peter doocy live. >> democrats senator john kerry the senate of the -- spoke about how sad he is for the loss of all the brave men on that chopper in afghanistan, but he was quick to punt out that the casualty count makes prospectly clear that we're slowly but surely handing off control of that country to the natives. >> we are in a transition in afghanistan. the effort that they are making there is one that is important to our national security in this transition, notice they were

seven afghans there, members of the commando forces part of the transition that is taking place. i think we have to find out exactly what happened, i'm going to be very interested to see who might have been involved. >> speaking about the american troop draw down, seven ii kerry added that we're not getting out of afghanistan completely just reducing to a level that's going to prevent the taliban from taking over. republican senator john mccain, though, not so sure, he thinks things there are going well but the president obama is pulling us out too fast and because of that advances will be reraised and the world will think we're weak. >> we've made significant successes, our prayers and thoughts go out to the families of those brave, brave elite of our elite that sacrificed. but at the same time we're going to have to address this situation and we're going to have to real estate dress the problem that the president created that is, that out there, there's the perception

afghanistan and other parts of the world that america is withdrawing. that can't be good. >> senator mccain also said that we should try to avoid condemning the afghan people to the rule of the taliban, something he suggested might happen if we pull out too fast or if we pull out against the advice of military leaders on the ground. >> peter, thanks very much. >> let's get some more information on the deadly crash and potential response. joining me retired army major general and fox news military analyst, robert scales. it's great to see you thank for coming in. i wish it was on a happier discussion. because we lost so many of the bravest, seal team six. should they all have been traveling as a unit as they did. >> that's a great question, jamie. a couple of quick facts for our viewers. the ch 47 the aircraft that crashed is the oldest airplane we have in our inventory, in fact i flew in it when i was in

vietnam. second, this is an aircraft that is heavily, heavily stressed in afghanistan, it's the only one that can get to these very high altitudes with large loads like wardak province. it's not unusual frankly today for these helicopters to be overloaded, principally because of a lack of what we call blade time. or time available to fly in these helicopters. the short answer i guess to your question, jamie is probably, yes. but operational circumstances oftentimes dictate that these helicopters are loaded with 25, 30, sometimes even more soldiers when they're off on these operational missions. >> the taliban has taken credit for this. they say their responsible, we're awaiting confirmation on whether or not it was mechanical or may have been shot down. as the taliban claims. sounds like it doesn't have any ability to return any fire power if that was the case. do you think there's any sense by the taliban now that we've announced withdrawal that they

can take more bold actions like this? >> no, i don't think so. this was a lucky hit by an rpg according to my sources. it was the helicopter was engaged at most vulnerable point when it was less to the ground coming in for a landing. this is the same tactics the taliban or earlier the mujahadin. the taliban are trying to exploit it. but in my opinion and machine of most people i talked to not going to have any affect on the operational tempo of conventional sources or special forces in afghanistan. our servicemen are going to continue to go after the tall began ban as they have in the past. >> we know they have been weakened by our actions, all those years. our military forces done a miraculous job there. nevertheless, even if it was a lucky hit by the taliban, does it boost their morale? >> it might. but remember, special operating forces in afghanistan do about

12 or 13 of these missions every night, seven days a week. so i don't want to use the word routine, but the -- these separations continue to keep the taliban off their game, it forces them to continue to try to hide and run away without taking offensive action. it takes out the middle and upper middle management of the taliban leadership. all of these operations are key and essential. i would argue vital to the success of our mission in afghanistan. and without question they will continue. >> it sounds like you're saying no change in direction, no change in policy. >> no change in direction, no change in policy. but very, very sad for the loved ones of these brave seals who were killed. >> absolutely. general, you know how i feel about the military can i'm personally praying for all those not only involved but those there every single day. thank you for your service, too. flies to see you, sir.

>> absolutely. there's a lawsuit over grounds. a lower manhattan hotel toe suing over construction noise at the world trade center site. in the lawsuit the millennium hilton hotel says there's a lot of loud construction, so noisy down there now that it's driving customers away. in response the developers of the site say they try to be good neighbors, they say construction only goes on during the regular business hours, but the hotel says, that isn't so. they're seeking $8 million in damages, you know they're rushing of doors try to complete what they need to do for the 10th anniversary next month. >> it has been brutal out there, know relief in sight either as blistering temperatures continue scorching parts of our country. the extreme heat posing a serious threat to texas, dallas alone, experiencing more than a month of 100 degree plus temperatures. now even new concerns the danger is heat wave could be spreading.

chief meteorologist is tracking it all in the extreme weather center, look at that map. no relief in sight. >> there isn't, it's sad. when you say spreading going to move a little bit to the west that's expanded to the four corners area, new mexico, arizona, going to warm up a little bit the next few days. texas stay warm. already at 88 in dallas this morning. 89 in little rock. take look at the next five days in dallas. check this out. 109 on tuesday. high temperature ever in the state of texas -- excuse me in dallas is 113 they have been flirting with that. 36 days over a hundred. 42 is the record for consecutive days from 1908 if we see on friday triple digits we are going to break that record or at lowes tie that record i think that's certainly going to happen. no rain in texas but significant showers for us a lot of the east today. scattered showers and thunderstorms for lot of the area today. we'll see that in the northeast and some heavy ones moving across parts of the plains right

now as well. we'll continue to deal with. that also has been a tropic, we had tropical storm emily fell apart can came back together, came back to being a tropical depression, emily southeastern side of florida dealing with a little bit of cloud cover, a few showers at times but all of the models show it will pull off to the east. here people talking about emily, no concerns that at least is good news. >> some good news sounds like our bike ride is postponed. >> thanks so much. enjoy the day. >> acorn, that's right, acorn back in the news. member of the discredited activist organization faces music in court three days from now on wednesday. after admitting guilt in yet another voter registration scandal. this one in las vegas. coming up we'll talk with the democratic nevada secretary of state who will tell us if acorn really is dead or if its followers will be back for the next presidential campaign. we're still now waiting for word

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>> we're waiting to learn the fate of american hikers being detained in iran. it's been one week since the regime said it would sentence them for spying but as of this moment we have no word. two of the americans are still being held there, they have been in jail for two years now. the delay means iran will show leniency or suggest that they're taken hard line against the americans, our fox news terrorism analyst. lot of concerns about the fate of both josh and shane, what do you think will happen? >> well, first of all, eric, we need to look at this in two context. iranian regime is using their court system, their tribunal system to produce political income. remember, they had the hostages, a crisis, the became see then their allies in lebanon and hezbollah and other crisis, so

what we see right now is the possibility of them releasing the two american hikers but the timing is not really -- it's political timing in the hands of the regime. >> you talk about a political timing, i recall that the woman who was released, she's released september, guess who was here in new york, mahmoud ahmadinejad. asked for the release of her two come pay tree yachts. guess who is coming back next month, mahmoud ahmadinejad. could they be released to coincide with his visit here to the united nations. >> you just describe exactly or almost what the iranian regime game is. it's basically use these detainees the hikers as a pawn, as hostages. they released one of three. to send a message that they are releasable the others are

releasable that would put pressure on the u.s. government not to escalate pressure because on the one happened they have seen one person released but two are still in prison. of course ahmadinejad and regime will use this so that he can protect his image when he comes to the united nations. so that parents will come and seek some sort of release. so other political -- basically trying to do is paralyze our policy towards iran. >> i sat down with him last september i asked, right now on television here in the fox news channel you can release them, announce, mr. president, release them right now, say it here to our television camera, he didn't take the bait, of course. he said it's not up to me it's up to the court system. obviously what you're telling thus morning he's full of it. >> well, of course, the court system could have released hundreds upon hundreds of detainees inside iran to start with. the court system could have basically given right decision with regard to the election, manufacturer election of mahmoud. there is no such thing as

independent court system in reiran it's all in the happened of the regime. he marie lease them, but the price is really political -- he's trying to put pressure on us so we do not escalate our policy regarding iran not with regard to release of the detainees but million other things beginning with the missiles, all the way down to the policy in iraq. >> thank you this morning for your analysis and of course hope and pray that both shane and josh are released. if they want to do it in september when ahmadinejad is here, fine by me. release them. thanks. >> violent night in north london the pictures are pretty incredible. look at this, smashed windows and set fire to the neighborhood. we're going to tell what you marked the violence in a live report. also people in new york they go toe c.entral ppark, try to get away from the traffic but not this weekend how father and son had a fight it led to the surprise plunge right in to the

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>> new information coming in for you about the wave of violent protests they're having in london. hundreds of protesters storming the streets in region continue's area, one of city's poorest. torching police cars and

shattering shop windows, there's been so much damage so far the angry crowd demanding justice for a man who was shot to death by police who media reports was suspected gang member, who police were trying to arrest as part of an operation they had to get guns off the street. martin from our sister network, sky news is live in london. martin? >> one of the issues here is the level of impact last night, there were sporadic fits of violence breaking out, shops were smashed, cars set on fire. the appearance was that the police were very slow to react to that, because of that the violence escalated in to some of the most violent rioting scenes that anybody has seen in london for many years. it was sparked according to community leaders by a lack of police action earlier in the

day. it all began with a small peaceful protest at the police station here, community members asking the police far answers, asking the police why the family of the dead man had not been given the sort of help that they should have expected. and also exactly what happened 72 hours ago when the man appears to have been shot by police officers. now, from the police they say very difficult to provide clear idea of exactly what happened. until they can give details they're very reluctant to say very much about it. one of the broader problems is that this is an area where a lot of good work has been done in the last 35 years since a very similar incident in which a black woman was restrained and died in a police operation. a lot of people here today say there are great similarities, as

the hours tick by toward darkness today, there are real fears that there could be more violence tonight. >> all right, martin, thank you very much. live there from the scene, we appreciate it, thank you. >> while he's a democrat to take on acorn. the nevada secretary of state, ross miller will be here coming up to explain what will happen in court this week, that's when acorn gets sentenced for an illegal voter registration scheme stemming from the 2008 presidential election. they say acorn is out of business, but is it? meanwhile, a police officer ambushed, murdered, by a drive-by shooting. was he targeted? details and the manhunt now underway. >> the vehicles were leg for a traffic light, a gun was produced from the passenger side window and the officer was shot.

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fox alert. defending the downgrade. one of 's managing directors this morning explaining his agency's decision to knock down the credit rating. a decision for the first time in history. stunning set back based on the s&p's conclusion that washington will have difficulty getting deficits under control. good morning welcome to a new hour of america's news headquarters for this sunday morning. >> jamie: i'm jamie colby this is a new hour. key lawmakers are speaking out about the downgrade today and what needs to be done to get our economy back on track. steve centanni is live in washington. i know you are monitoring what they are saying this morning. a lot of finger-pointing,

right? >> reporter: absolutely. one party blaming the other. a member of standard & poor's appeared and said no one party is to blame. >> this is really not about either political party. it is about the difficulty of all sides in finding a consensus around fiscal policy choices now and in the future. >> reporter: beers said congress and the white house are jointly responsible for our fiscal policy. >> jamie: i'm sure nobody in washington wants to deal with this. but it affects everybody the reputation and future not only of the president and the administration, but everybody in congress. how are they reacting this morning? defensive or optimistic that this is the right move for our future? >> reporter: as always, you have division on that. house budget committee chairman paul ryan agrees with beers, no one party is to

blame. but says it is likely everyone will suffer as a result. >> i'm not very surprised at this downgrade. we more or less saw this coming, because we are on the wrong fiscal path. we'll find out tomorrow what kind of spike in rates we are going to get. not only does it hurt the federal government but it hurts people. >> reporter: ryan predicts interest rates on home and car loans will rise because washington has not gotten its fiscal muss in order. democrats disagree that -- fiscal house in order. democrats disagree and not shy about naming the faction they see as being responsible. >> it is a partial wake-up call. i believe this is without question the tea party downgrade this is the tea party downgrade because a minority of people in the house of representatives countered even the will of many republicans in the united states senate, who were prepared to do a bigger deal. >> reporter: kerry says there were people in the republican party willing to shoot the

hostage, in the recent debt ceiling showdown. >> jamie: steve centanni, thank you. >> the downgrade means that america is considered a riskier investment than canada. more than a dozen countries have the top aaa rating that we just lost. they include our neighbor to the north as well as others. france, germany, great britain, australia. we now join the ranks of new zealand and belgium at aa+. the rating puts us one notch above spain and slovenia. we are ahead of china and japan they both are at aa-. >> jamie: we are learning a lot this. s&p saying its z to downgrade the credit rating was -- based on washington's inablility to function politically and get our debt under control. are they right? a republican from texas and

vice chair of the join economic committee and you serve on ways and means, sir, thank you for being with us. >> thanks. >> jamie: first of all, you are on vacation. everybody took a month break. what can happen during the time are off? i'm sure you are having contact with your constituents. what can happen during this month as america waits and watches and wonders about our future? >> one, we are not on vacation, we are doing town halls, round tables, and working on tax reform and fundamental changes in our spending. it seems, even the threat of america not paying its bills contributed to this downgrade. had we not, i'm convinced all three agencies would have downgraded us and we would be in real economic trouble. the point they made, our global competitors are getting a handle on their debt, we are not. they made the point we should be tackling structural deficits, we are not.

i think when you look at the plan republicans sent, the ryan budget plan we sent out of the house cuts the deficit by more than four trillion. doesn't harm our pro-growth tax brackets. and tackles some structural reform medicare and medicaid we need. so the plan is there. we are prepared to focus on it. we need a willing partner on the other side of the chamber. >> jamie: congressman, republicans did gain much of what they wanted in terms of reductions in spending. that's a good start. going forward there is a concern that we'll be taxed at some point. how do you stay with the program that you believe is right for our country and you have the background and also you sit on the committees that can influence our future, when there is such disagreement by both sides of the aisle? >> jamie, i think it has become clear, perhaps to everyone in america, house

republicans don't believe you can tax your way back to either a balanced budget or to a stronger economy. i'm not worried about this new committee recommending tax increases. they will be voted down in the house. i worry about reports like s&p, while they said we remain neutral on revenue issues. they said the way we keep this rating is for the super committee to create more savings and for the bush tax cuts to expire on two of our pro-growth tax brackets. i think is a mistake. we are going to focus on the spending side. >> jamie: the s&p was clear, they wanted more revenue in this plan or down the road. i wonder whether you think the white house will come up with a proposal for more stpeupl or more spending? another way to -- stimulus or more spending? another way get money out there for programs that will cost us more what would you do if that happened? >> we are going to reject another round of stimulus, it has failed.

i think the stimulus promises have fallen short by 6.3 million jobs. unemployment rate was supposed to be 6.3%. we were promised with the stimulus. it has been a massive failure. there is a way, we think to create more revenues. with the energy industry and -- put the energy industry and companies back to work, in the gulf, coast, alaska, we are leaving a million jobs on the table and seven billion dollar a year in new revenues. the government has excess surplus properties over this decade selling them off at market prices create revenues and shrinks the government. there's good things we can do. the but we are in the going to increase taxes, i can guarantee you. >> jamie: congressman kevin brady on jobs, jobs, jobs, i know that will be a big topic when you return. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> when the president was first elected, he was compared

to franklin roosevelt. the media touted him as the answer to our nation's economic troubles with the stunning downgrade of our country's credit rating for the first time, will president obama now be compared to fdr's predecessor? hoover who history blamed for the great depression and sending the u.s. into an economic tailspin? is that fair? is it president obama's fault? joining us executive director for public notice. and a democratic campaign consultant. gretchen and ryan well. gretchen, it is unbelievable. we went through world war i, the great depression, world war ii, that didn't damage our credit rating. and now this. this weekend the president frankly is not saying anything. no statement from the white house is expected. will he get the brunt of the blame? >> they will get some of the blame. republicans and democrats are both to blame. let's look at spending over

the past 10 years, increased 60% under president bush. but president obama hasn't done anything to tamp down spending and get it under control. he the opportunity this year to present a budget that took on cost drivers and make tough decisions, but he fail to do that. >> it may not be fair to say he hasn't done anything to try to get it under control. clearly, he's been calling for some restraint. although he also wanted taxes to go up. >> that is true, he did want taxes to go up. that's not the leadership we need. we need to roll up our sleeves and dive into that budget and take on what are those drivers of our debt? defense spend something one thing. very bloated department. social security, medicare, there needs to be reforms. ryan and myself have the ability to have those benefits in the future. look at some of the agencies, tons of waste. something needs to be done. >> what are the chances of that happening? s&p says is no long term plan

to get the spending under control. >> the real problem is you have democrats and republicans in washington who stopped working to the. i would put that blame squarely on the shoulders of the tea party caucus in the house and lack of leadership coming out of speaker boehner. who thinks what he is doing is political leadership. it is partisan foolishness. we have economic terrorists threatening the economy so they can make a political point that is irresponsible. everybody throughout america knows that. >> economic terrorist, you think that is fair to say that? >> i would say they threw a bomb at our economy with this political argument over the debt ceiling debate and held on and held a gun to our heads saying we to threaten this downgrade if you don't give us everything we want. they got everything they wanted and they still pulled the trigger. now we have a downgrade from the s&p. did you get what you want tea party? did you get what you want republicans in washington?

>> you know what, he should be doing advertising for the tea party. he just gave them so much more credit. he said they are responsible for the downgrade? i mean come on, really? the downgrade is because -- [ talking over each other ] >> the downgrade is because we haven't done anything about our debt. we haven't done anything over the past 10 years. we are showing no long term plan. like ryan said, they aren't working together. they need to work together in order to take on this plan. to blame in solely on the tea party is wrong. >> clock is ticking. how do they work together? we saw what happened the past few months it went up to the last second, ryan you think that is going to happen? you think they get something done by december 23rd? >> the clock has already run out. they've said they downgraded us economically. that will have huge ramifications on our ability to lend and spend and interest

rates on our debt. they exploded the debt by billions. they put millions out of work that is the tea party's fault. more important it is boehner's fault, cantor and norquist's fault. 97% of the members of the house signed a pledge to never raise taxes ever for any reason even in times of war that is specifically what the s&p said is responsible for this downgrade their lack of ability to see you need to raise revenue to run a government. >> one point to ryan. harry truman said, the buck stops here. do you believe that also an lies to president obama on this? >> yeah. -- official president obama has a lot on his shoulders now. he's responsible for bringing this economy out of doldrums. he has to focus on jobs. put in debt ceiling debate that bed -- debate to bed.

>> now how does he do that if the cap is so big and there's no plan? the president has a plan republicans have been stalling him for months. >> wait, wait! what is his plan? >> they've been planning to throw this bomb at our economy and they got what they wanted. can we now move on? >> what about the bomb and are we going to move on? >> first, i want to know what his plan is i don't think we will be able to move on from this. government spend something about jobs. economists said if we reduce government spending at this level when it is the entire size of our economy is a drag on the and jobs. something knees to be done to pull back government spending. -- something needs to be done to pull back government spending. we have the fiscal year for 2012, we could be looking at a government shutdown before we get to the recommendations. >> ryan, last word? >> we are seeing a fundamental

flaw, trickle down economics doesn't work we can't cut out of this recession if we keep trying we will up in another great depression. we need to put americans back to work. president obama needs to focus on creating jobs and rebuilding the american dream for most americans. >> that you for the debate. they had a deal but the clock is still ticking. thanks guys. new developments coming from afghanistan. u.s. military suffering its single busiest loss of life since the war began a decade -- single biggest loss of life since the war began a decade ago. they came from the elite seal team 6, they all died when their helicopter was shot down in eastern afghanistan. now fierce fight something underway in that same area as nato forces are trying to recover their downed chopper. connor powell has the report.

>> reporter: in an an -- operation is underway the military says it could take several days because of the remoteness of the area, terrain, it is a difficult area to operate. also because there is continued fighting. province southwest of kabul is an area where there is heavy taliban forces. there's a lot of fighting there. a place where u.s. and afghan forces have been battling the taliban for years. it is not an easy process to try to recover that downed chinook. as the recovery process is underway, new information about what brought the helicopter down. officially the u.s. military is not saying i was shot down by the taliban. privately they are conceding saying it was likely a rocket propelled tkpwhraeupbd that killed 38 members of the force. what is the question we don't have answered is why were

there so many special operation forces on this helicopter? talking to the military and other members in kabul, they say it is rare for the u.s. to put that many special forces, on to a helicopter for this reason if one goes down, you lose a large amount of your most highly trained and specialized force. that is one of the questions we are trying to find out this is a devastating blow to the small tight -- small tight-knit forces in afghanistan. >> here are some so -- sobering numbers. until yesterday there had been nearly 1600 military death in the afghanistan. since the war began october 2001. before today, at least 240 americans had reportedly been killed in afghanistan since the effort just this year alone. meanwhile, the u.s. draw down of our troops, you may recall

officially began last month it started july 15th. >> jamie: so it will continue in san diego, a massive manhunt going on after apparently unprovoked shooting leaves one police officer in critical condition. other police are saying two men drove up along side a cruiser at a stoplight saturday, without warning, they fired a shotgun into the officer's window. investigators trying to piece together details. they have little or no idea of any possible motive. >> gun was produced from the passenger's side window and the officer was shot. official this sounds like it is totally unprovoked on the shooting of the officer. we have no idea what the motive was for sure. >> jamie: the shooter was kill. there was a firefight with police. the second suspect, still on the run. >> the first ever downgrade of the u.s. credit rating, what does it moon for us? what will happen to -- does it

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. a 30-year-old man had father issues. taking out his anger on their car. people in new york city's central park said a green van started tearing down a path and went into one of the lakes. the driver jumped out of the sinking vehicle, thankfully he's okay. the driver told a witness my father cares more about the van than he does about me. >> jamie: not sure into spay about that story. this is the top story. standard & poor's are making the unprecedented move of down gidding u.s. credit rating. immediate impact is political, finger-pointing in washington is in full swing. what does it mean to you?

what do you need to know to help you hang on to what you have? you may be paying more on credit cards, home more beginnings. today we want today to help you out. trish , kind enough to come in. -- you have warnings for folks on how they can at least get a head start on paying more for the things we are talking about. what should we do right now? >> right now you need to pay a lot of attention. for individuals it is going to be about cash. allow me to make one statement this is serious. it is important. and there's no silver lining. so you really have to pay attention to what you are doing. how people get through this it is all about cash. whether it is your cash reserves, cash you have in your wallet. how much cash you have in your 401(k). it is all about cash.

paying attention, cash is king. >> jamie: think a little bit of cash. >> a lot of cash. >> jamie: if you have credit cards and i know you think we should pay them off and rip them up. >> absolutely. >> jamie: if you have them and see the interest rates going up, should you pay now? >> don't wait. credit is going to get dear and debt is going to be a more costly problem. start dealing with it now, if you haven't already if you can't do-it-yourself, get help. there's the national foundation of credit counselors you can find them online. you can fan a credit counselor who is specifically trained to deal with these debt issues. don't wait. >> jamie: prioritize what should be paid off first. if you are buying a home now. we know there's a lot of deals. not as many for mortgages coming up as the rates go up.

how do you get the best mortgage? should you jump in or wait? >> first, go to get your fico score that is going to determine what your rate is. the higher your fico score the less you are going to pay. as interest rates move(xoç most people think interest rates are going up, i concur, maybe not monday, but soon we are going to be paying higher interest rates. if interest rates move one percentage point you will pay 11.6% more debt servicing over the next 30 years. you can get a free credit report every year. >> that is a tree credit report. you want the score that's what your lend going to be looking at. you go to myfico.com and unfortunately, this you have to pay for. >> jamie: it sounds worth it. >> it is. >> jamie: the s&p was clear

they hoped for more revenue in this debt ceiling plan that could mean taxes, potentially for us? >> we've got some taxes. >> jamie: what do we ask our accountant to do to an individual paying more taxes? >> if you believe the bush tax cuts are going to send starting in 2013 and you believe the health care bill is going to stay intact brace yourself more more taxes. the top bracket from 35 to 43.3%. that doesn't count what is going on in your state or other taxes. start bracing for it. if you have the opportunity, move income in the next year and a half and move expenses into 2013 and beyond. capital gains from 15% to 20%. if you have a $10,000 capital -- $15,000 capital gain tax if you wait until 2013 it is going to be $20,000.

>> jamie: take it now. >> absolutely. >> jamie: finally, you say we are in a recovery? >> yes. >> jamie: it is a jobs' recession? >> it is a jobs' recollection -- recession. brace yourself it is going to get worse. >> jamie: thanks so much patricia powell. if you want more on our take charge segments on a number of consumer issues go to foxnews.com click on the headquarters page. look for a link. you will see many of these programs. acorn, remember them? acorn is heading to court. the organization faces the music for an illegal voter registration scheme. >> coming up, we hear from one of the only elected officials in the country who brought a case against acorn itself. >> police and the fbi are on a manhunt for these three armed and dangerous suspects. and the shocking twist that

ties them together.

here's other stories we are following: china braced for the arrival of a powerful typhoon expected to make landfall today. thousands along the country's east coast are being evacuated. >> six people dead after a series of car bombs rock central iraq. attacks happened 30 miles south of baghdad. what was once one of the most violent cities during the height of the insurgency. with >> jamie: extreme weather is right. southern plains and lower mississippi valley suffering through another day of brutal heat. texas hit hard. extreme temperatures and lack of rain causing reservoirs to evaporate. crops are drying up, animals are dying off by the thousands.

you said 109 in texas, rick? >> dallas is going to get there in a couple of days. texas under the worst they've seen 76% of the state in exceptional drought the highest category. no rain and the heat. look at how many days it has been above 100° in a row, wichita falls, texas, 46, waco, 38,. last time you were under 100° for a daytime high was june 21st. a very long time. temps into the 90s. dallas 91. little rock 96, humid feels like 100. not humid enough that you are getting thunderstorms this is a look at the next five days in dallas. breaking records. 42 days in a row the highest streak they've had of days

above 100°. if we get to friday of week it will tie the record. i think that is going to happen. eastern part of the country, blues and yellows are rain showers. rain across the northeast this morning. thunderstorms, more coming towards the coastal areas in the big cities later. towards part of the south, ohio river valley, seeing showers also towards atlanta. none making its way into texas, unfortunately. it looks like that will continue. >> jamie: rick, thanks for keeping an eye on all of it. acorn in court. wednesday the discredited activist organization will face the music for another voter registration scandal. this one in las vegas. it pled guilty to voter fraud-related charges from the 2008 presidential campaign. acorn was charged with illegally paying bonuses to sign up voters. part of an illegal scheme. the organization itself will likely face a fine. is this the last of acorn?

how do authorities stop voter registration fraud? here from reno is ross miller, the democratic nevada secretary of state who invest getted acorn and specialed -- investigateed acorn and established a special task force. you are one of the only elected officials in the country who took on acorn the organization itself. helped take them to court. what do you expect will happen when they are in court wednesday? >> well, they will have been convicted of a felony. the sentencing is up to the judge. they can be sentenced up to a $5,000 fine. we convicted the regional field director as well as the local field director. i think it sent a strong message we are going to deter that type of activity in the future by going after these violation as aggressively. >> they had something called blackjack or 21. which i guess is appropriate

for have as go. they would pay bonuses to workers to sign up more people and that's illegal. >> yeah, it is illegal in nevada to compensate someone based on the total number of voters they registered, which is what they were doing. we executed a search warrant at their headquarters. obtained enough information to go forward with the investigation. ultimately, ended up filing numerous felony counts against not only acorn their regional, local field directors and obtained criminal convictions on all individuals involved. >> the field director, christopher edwards was one of the directors there an acorn worker he pled guilty and cooperated and testified at some hearings. the regional director took a no contest plea. she has been involved in voter registration for years. you mentioned a second ago, they face a $5,000 fine, acorn itself.

acorn's lawyer will argue for a $1,000 fine is that an appropriate punishment, if it has been alleged acorn was trying to subver the american election system? >> i think it is. -- when you think about how big adorn was when we brought the investigation. -- big acorn was when we brought the investigation. it was big national news. nobody had taken them on. we were the only jurisdiction that charged acorn criminally. you official can't send a corporation to jail it is a matter of assessing a fine. as a former criminal prosecutor, i can tell you so long as you step in, and enforce the election laws aggressively that sends a strong message and deters that type of activity election we didn't see those abuses. so clearly it worked. i think it will work moving for. we have in nevada, the first and i think the only multi-jurisdictional task force comprised of all law enforcement agencies, including the fbi and federal

authorities that hose who initiated this investigation. i think that -- and that is who initiated this investigation. and i think that should be a model. >> finally, they've declared chapter 7 bankruptcy. do you expect acorn or acorn organizations to be back at their old game in the 2012 presidential election? how do you stop voter fraud and voter registration fraud? >> no, i don't. when we announced the creation of the task force, i did so because it had gone on for previous jurisdictions where nobody had done anything. i made it clear when i campaigned that i was going to put an end to it. we formed the task force on took the steps to enforce the laws. when we brought charges it seemed to have impact. we didn't see that type of activity in 2010. so i think the message is out there that we are not going to look the other way when we see

these types of violations. we are going to aggressively pursue them. i think that will deter people. >> mr. miller, you have been praised and lauded for taking on this case and not turning a blind eye when it comes to voter fraud and voter registration fraud. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> if you suspect any voter fraud where you live we have the special fox news voter fraud unit. we've investigated all sorts of allegations from absentee ballots to allegations involving vulnerable adults if you suspect nothing is right where you vote, we want to know. >> jamie: the fbi launching a massive manhunt. they are looking for three siblings from florida. all three accused of shooting at a police car and they had a high speed chase after robbing a bank with assault weapons.

josh from our tampa affiliate has more on the story itch >> reporter: hidden an buried underground, sophisticated bunker beneath the property where according to neighbors at least two of the three siblings lived until a few months ago. the current owner did not want to be seen but gave fox 13 a look inside. >> it is two 40 foot cargo containers buried underground, side by side with a hallway manmade. >> reporter: power, running water and pump system built bay hand. no one can say what it was used for. deputies confirm it was investigated for drug activity. nothing illegal was found. the current owner who bought the property after they moved out says he was shocked by what he saw. >> very surprised. they got good minds and they put 'em to waste. >> reporter: dubbed doherty gang are accused of firing at

least 20 shots tuesday morning. later that day shooting their high powered weapons in the air during a bank robbery in georgia. billboards plaster their pictures across the southeast. they are considered armed and dangerous. >> i couldn't have imagined they are involved in what they are involved in now. >> reporter: as the search goes on curiosity about their histories. sister lee describeses herself this way: i love to farm and shoot guys and wreck cars. she adds, i like milk and german engineering and causing mayhem with my siblings. >> there's only one way out to call the police and say we surrender. >> jamie: even their mom says they should. if you know anything you should dial 911. we thank josh from our fox affiliate in tampa. >> a high flying feat almost

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economy and the fair and battle debate over alabama's tough new immigration more. that and more at the top of the hour. >> jamie: this you must see to believe in china a close call for a tightrope walker. look at these pictures. this daredevil was trying to walk across a wire that was 49 feet long. it is more than 300 feet above the ground. the wire, there's no safety net below and the wires attached between two hot-air balloons. he falls down, hanging by' thread, hanging by one hand. what does he do? believe it or not, after hanging on like that with one arm, that wasn't supposed to be part of the stunt. he literally pulls himself back up and he's able to walk across the wire. eric, we've seen a lot of stuff. we have not seen anything like

this. he's not done folks. he stands up. and the hot-air balloons are moving. if there had been a wind gust, down he clearly would have gone. he made it across. look at this. >> thank goodness. can you believe ? >> i'm curious what he won? you don't do this for kicks. >> without a net! oh man. >> amazing video, had to share. >> for a change of gears. horrific shootout on u.s.-mexico border. mexican police commander was killed in the hail of gunfire. authorities say this happened when a gunman ambushed his car near the bridge of the missions. right near a high school on our side of the border. >> reporter: very, very close you can throw a rock if you got a good throw you will make eight cross. the high school principal was at home -- home we get the

call. in the middle a morning football practice and varsity volleyball scrimmage. >> we heard all kinds of gunshots. i thought it was fireworks. >> reporter: she did not want to show her face. >> it was boom, boom, boom. >> a lot of shots. a lot of being co-. >> boom, boom, boom. -- >> didn't know what was going on. >> they locked everybody down. made sure everybody was secure and notified authorities. >> reporter: before lone the saturday sports routine was -- before long the saturday sports routine was back on track. from the top of the stadium we saw what appeared to be bodies under blankets. the bridge was shutdown an hour because of the shootout that left at least one high ranking mexican police hand dead. >> i think it is sad. >> reporter: another injured. >> you hear about it, it hits close to home.

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>> jamie: welcome back. they are calling it good old fashioned police work. it has a twist. police departments around our country are using social media sites just like us, including facebook, to try and fight crime. it is raising questions about privacy. casey stegall is live in los angeles. tell us first how police are using these sites? >> reporter: it is amazing. no longer just about connecting with old friends or uploading your photos. just as were you saying, cops are using websites like

facebook, myspace, twitter even youtube to not only catch criminals but to get information out to the public. police in vancouver, recently nabbing a looter after seeing his picture on flicker. then remember, carmageddon in los angeles a few weeks ago when a major freeway shutdown? lapd tweeted out alerts, even enlisting celebrities to send out messages to reach more people. police say the social networking sites are changing the way they get information out. >> we are able to not just present the information but deliver it to anybody who wants it. that's regardless of how many other news stories may be going on. we can breakthrough that and still get the message to 'em even if the media is preoccupied with some other event. >> reporter: of course this is not unique to the state of california. this trend is sweeping the nation. happening in big cities, to

little towns. >> jamie: it is great if it is helping. people are saying you are on my facebook account, checking my myspace page, it is private. >> reporter: a lot of people say that but the experts tell us, remember whatever you put online is in fact, public. for example, the l.a. county sheriff's office telling us they go online and search someone out, if they believe they are a suspect. they say that is not common. they are not trolling through regular people's pages. they are using the information superhighway to help find clues. they will take that information, cross reference it with their databases. it does raise some privacy concerns, but again those security experts say everyone needs to think hard in this day and age about what aspects of their life they share online. >> jamie: good tip. thanks casey see , live in

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. >> eric: new detail about the secret seal team 6 operation that killed bin laden. the new yorker magazine has an in-depth look at how the operation went down. including, a new claim about what the seal who shot bin laden said when he pull the trigger. why is this the first time we are hearing about that? liz trotta, fox news contributor joins us as she does every sunday with a commentary. good morning. >> good morning eric. >> eric: what about this new yorker piece? >> before we get to that. there's a lot of news about afghanistan this week. i would like to make a book

recommendation. the name of the book is triple agent by the pulitzer prize winner for the "new york post." remarkable take leads the cia to an eastern base in eastern afghanistan. and blows the whole place up. i haven't finished it yet. i can't wait to. but it is a good read. now, the new yorker piece this is a these the current issue by -- it is called getting bin laden. let me give you an example of one of the quotes. here's the scene, after they shoot or are shooting bin laden. as he fell backward the seal

fired a second round into his head, just above his left eye on his radio he reported for god and country >> very dramatic. stuff for a movie. by the way, the movie is coming out in october. we read it is from the same people who made the hurt locker, a really bad movie. this is really backed up my thoughts are backed up by maureen dowd of the "new york times" this morning. this was really an attempt by the white house to shore up its own abysmal popularity ratings. throughout the piece all you see are sources, most unnamed. presenting obama as the commander in chief. the man who was going to lead the seals on to victory. i must say that this is really

horrific. i'm sure the seals are laughing to themselves. the other thing that's quite noticeable is that he never -- the author never really talked to any of the seals. he says at one point they had -- that he had talked to people who had some recollections. a commercial for the white house. never talked to any of the seals. and it is presented in the new yorker as a true account of what happened on that bin laden raid in pakistan. >> eric: briefly, do you think they really said that? >> that part may be true. i have a feeling it was probably dressed up a little, maybe not. they are very low key guys. it would be difficult for me to make a judgment. the piece needs a little bit of a gimlet eye.