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what does this mean for our struggling economy? are >> i81 get an e mail from a guy, incredible. going these are down 200 last night, up 200 by 3:00 in the morning, down by 5:00 in the morning, then, you saw what happened a 640 point range. and hard to know where they go tomorrow. and the market is then volatile because fear is in the market there. one big thing there is that they're worried the world is falling down lead by the u.s., the most important economy in the world. and the fed came out today and said we're going to leave these low interest rates through the middle 2013.
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and a lot of individuals didn't come back into the market. so this was why the guy who should know better by the people who have seen it all. there is a lot of skittishes out there. slt little mishap. >> you know the market is i think the fact when the federal reserve announced numbers, the real message i got is that they couldn't
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lower the interest rates anymore if they wanted to and have run out of ammunition. because that is ammunition they've had. i thought that was a bad sign. and they said we don't have a give and take to manipulate the market to make it grow and make it stable. two cans of red bull to stay up tonight and you're killing my glove, girlfriend. but the market going up over 400 points, ending up, up. >> why? >> there is something wrong about that? >> what in the world? there is nothing happened in 90 minutes except the casino aspect of it. and there is nothing provocative other than all of a sudden let's do it. >> i read this little line. casinos like hireo glifics. you read through and thereo is
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one line, we're going keep them low, but then they say we'll take other measures necessary to keep it going. and i think that some traders thought ahh. >> greta: but that is my point. >> trading money to keep things going around. that allows them to borrow at low rates and loan it out for higher rates. and they like that so if you think that that qv 3 would come, then, maybe, you'll go. >> if you -- if they jump that cash in, we'd run risk of inflation. and it's not really the panaceaój... it's hard for me to all of a sudden think, like, did someone start reading into the fact they didn't say anything about that? so that must mean they're considering it? and that is the last 70 minutes? i don't get it feds say yes. yes. there is hope there. it's a matter of what you read
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into it. just take a breath. we've got to slow down. and there is a latest boogie man. >> greta: have you seen the people running our government? >> we always get it right. we get it right after trying every other option that fails. i believe we'll get this right. there is nothing like fear getting blurted out of office. doi like this new call. the idea we have to push into calling congress back saying we can't take a month off, guy. let's get back to work. and that may be skipping vacation. >> i've got to go. >> and thank you. >> and now, here tonighth(
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thinks european central bank is scrambling and meanwhile, new concerns about france. france is now facing the risk of a down grade. how bad is it? how contagious? nice to see you. and not just two and a half years. and the end of the bush administration put us on a cures toward europe. issue is that there is a huge issue going well beyond government spending and budget deficit.ux it's a question of how big of a role in our lives you want the federal government to be? is do you want to shrink it back? and that is what the issue is. >> what incentive is that we're rattled. i know many say we're going to still be strong and good but
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we do have a high unemployment. it's hard to get that sort of cheer thing. you look at the cold facts. it isn't cheery. and it has natural security considerations and impact on people around the world on things like our wealthy. it's like not just insignificant matter. >> that7 trouble meez most of all about the debate in washington. it's people have not seen the link between a strong economy and strong national security this, is not just about budge teary bean counting but american grand strategy. the real fundamental issue is do you think you have a stronger economy by having a larger government? or by the private sector to grow the economy? the more assets you transfer into the government, less growth you're going to get. >> and we have a an impact on europe. there is a bad situation with italy and spain. and in france, and1 the country
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has got problems do they have an impact back on us? >> well, sure, they dochl but the european problem is one they created on their own. the common currency, the euro. they did something, creating a currency without a government. some would say they expect it to be in a position where this would decrease the power of the national government. and by creating the euro, they subsidized in effect spending piles and maybe other countries as wael. they're political to create the e> and where is the un? does the un have a role over this? saying should it be doing something? >> no. no role whatever. >> should it be? >> no. no. >> greta: in past political dynamics? >> nothing of consequence gets resolved in the un.
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international organization does, and has play aid role in ins. i think their american policies are wrong. i think the eurois in trouble is for europeans to be right. they create that had currency in part to be a poll alternative. god bless the fablgt they want to do it. and they shouldn'tí& call on our resources to ins. >> greta: what do you think is going to happen in europe? >> i don't see how the eurocan survive. you can have sovereign debt and countries running into trouble but this comes back to germany. germans are saying why are we subsidizing these policies? at our expense? so i think there is going to be a political crash here f france runs into trouble, it's now being forecast, it's inevidentible. i don't see the eurosurviving. >> greta: i go back to the un. un just sits and watches? it's -- in this case. >> totally.
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>>41 and accurate. i think. >> greta: anyway. nice to see you. and there is new criticism seizing washington. where is everybody? members of congress are not here. they're on a scheduled five-week recess. the president? well, he's about to go on vacation. and our economy is a mess. we need help now. so president obama called on gres back to work. rush limbaugh doesn't think so. now, obama is not going to do this because it would mean he would have to give up his vacation, too. and he's not going to do that. things are proceeding just fine. there is enough destruction going on. there is enough angst and chaos. >> but president obama is in washington, d.c. tonight, so
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will he make the call? maryland's republican representative is here, andy harris. >> good evening, greta. >> people are phews furious. they think we took a long time do it and we got it wrong and they think we ought to go back and get it right. >> what tell take? i have been grumbling to get them back to work because i being it would be an inspiration to the american people. whether it can be done in the short run, i don't know. but it gives the psychological boost the american people that they care enough to work. >> i agree. and part of it will be jousts to prove to the american people that we do want to get something done. i think, there is a balanced budget amendment with bipartisan sponsorship on the desk in the house. we should bring it up and pass
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it and send it to the states and prove to the world that our vt credit rating's going to be good. we should take a jobs bill that looks to create jobs. maybe a minor reform of the tax code and tax reform so companies will locate and manufacture in america. there are things we do. i will tell you, i think the downgrade was a wake-up call to washington. i think washington's going to listen. i think when we get to together, i think there will be a different at attitude in washington because as a last guest said, there is nothing to sharpen a politician like next year's election. >> i am not sure that this is a wake-up call. if it was a wake-up call, they would have stayed. i know i am harsh and i know many of them have to meet other people around the world and it's important to national security. i know you have to have town halls, but enough is enough. this is an urgent matter to those who don't have jobs and worry about putting food on the table. this can't be put off until
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september. it is not that easy. there has been a four-spay or five-day weekend and they should send a message. i don't think it's a wake-up call. it is not a wake-up call, if you continue to put it off. >> well, greta, i will actual, the world is very different today than it was when the decision was made to begin the recess. at that time, we were told by a lot of leaders in washington, don't worry, we passed the deal. it's going to be good enough. nothing's going to happen. a lot in the world has changed in one week. >> you should stick around. we will have a segment on the dodd/frank bill. it was supposed to be the answer, passed 13 months ago. it was supposed to answer a lot of questions and keep us from the problems. that didn't happen. i guess, you know, i have sort of experienced this, giving me a right to be cynical, as i am practically the only one besides ambassador bolon here in washington, d.c. tonight. >> there is a lot to be cynical
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about. i got an earful over the last two days. people are really angry. they really think we need to get our act together in washington. get something done and prove the economy and take care of that debt and deficit problem. >> you know, it is not just debt and deficit. if you go to the g.a.o. report released in march, there are so many instances of billions of dollars of waste. congress has the obligation to be the oversight. they could come to washington and do a walk-through of government agencies and do a little oversight, what it is. start almost cherry picking the problems off. congress could do that. it just won't. it won't look at the waste. commission studies and says, yeah, that's awful and ignore its. >> you are right. the g.a.o. report, $300 billion in duplicate federal programs, $100 billion in fraud, waste and abuse. we have to go line by line -- that's what people expect. in tonight's town hall meeting, one person said, if our budget,
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we go line by line. we decide what we can afford and what we can't. that's what we have to do in washington. >> thank you, sir. >> my pleasure. >> straight ahead, remember last summer's dodd/frank financial reform bill? president obama was proud to sign it and make it law to protect us. but has it been a bust? "on the record" investigates what this law means to wall street and to you, 13 months later, next. our nation's financial crisis -- well, it's malignant, spreading to the states. we are going to twhawl it means for your state. and this is a stunner. is the national organization of women watching representative michele bachmann's back? here's a clue, a picture's involved. you are going to see. it a lot of times, things are right underneath our feet,
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the thing that would get our going again is if we would repeal obama care, dodd-frank all the regulations he's shackling our economy with. >> it tells you what dodd-frank is, is a horror movie for the american economy. a horror movie if people are interested in taking risks and creating jobs.
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>> in addition to all the pieces of this bill, a common goal was to con without to -- was contribute to that restoration. >> this legislation is one of the pillars of president obama's building a new foundation for a stronger economy and fairer society. >> greta: dodd-frank a cure all? if so how come we are still in the soup? the verdict from those sound bites mixed. what is the 2 l 300 page document -- what is the 2,300 page document. here it is. that is in the word of leader pelosi, that is meant to -- that's the pillar. >> it was thought of as the great panacea for the financial crisis of 2008. it does correct some of the problems that we saw in the financial crisis of 2008. obviously it doesn't correct
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everything. the past few weeks and months show there's more work to be done before congress and the white house are able to figure out what to do to fix this economy. >> greta: [ unintelligible ] >> obviously, the american people do not trust their government leaders to figure out what is wrong with the economy. this bill, identified specific problems that occurred before 2008 and tried to come up with ways to fix them. >> greta: i went through one aspect. creates a new independent watchdog for consumers. so consumers didn't get cheated. in the old days we used to refer them to the justice department and they get prosecuted. that still works. >> justice department is still supposed to do that. clearly they've not went after any of the big investment banks or companies involved in this crisis. this agency is supposed to make sure the mortgage documents we sign, credit card
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loans we get are easy to understand that we are not tricked that wasn't being done by other regulators. >> greta: when other regulators fail or people not doing their jobs we roll out another document for new people not to do their jobs. nothing has been accomplished. all this good hopes and will for the people in 13 months, that hasn't happened. we have another set of failed expectations with another statute. >> right. i think it is early to tell what this law -- what impact it will have. it is just coming into effect now. they signed it a year ago. it took a year to set up now it is being rolled out. >> greta: it prevents us from huge bailouts. in the old days before in, if there was a problem with a company the company would go into a bankruptcy, a semi bankruptcy and the bankruptcy court handled it and you got trustees and did the
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restructuring, we didn't need this. >> we had lehman brothers and it scared everyone. we the fed and treasury got scared they went to bailout and learned they have to bailout if a financial institution is going to crash and bring down the entire financial system with it. >> greta: we had a mechanism, that's the problem. >> but regulators worried the mechanism we had want effective. they have a new system that will prevent bailout. there's a lot of doubt about whether that is the case. i think a lot of people think the government will still step in and rescue that bank between fit involves taxpayer money. -- even if it involves taxpayer money. >> greta: what is the selling point? >> it is posed to, i'm not saying it does, it is supposed to protect you and me and average people who can get cheated by financial institutions. supposed to go too the guts of the financial system and figure out what is wrong and
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put patches on those to make sure what we had in 2008 doesn't happen again. we don't know until we have another financial crisis. >> greta: is this least bit plain speaking? >> of course not, very complicated, many rules. that is one of the risks businesses point out. 300 rules when we are trying to rebuild during a recession itch it is going to cost money we are going to pass the cost on to customers. and it is going to take a long time get back to business. >> greta: i read a good bit of this it is incomprehensible. >> it is very hard to understand. it reflects many personal points of view of lots of congressmen and senators. the overall goal is to make the system stronger. in 2008 we clearly saw the system was broken, was flawed. this is an attempt to fix it. >> greta: zack, thank you. >> idaho's government goes on the record.
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his state earned a credit rating upgrade. that is coming up. >> would you pay $80 for a piece of pvc pipe the size of your hand? you already did that is only the beginning. if you are a taxpayer you if you are a taxpayer you where to h
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>> greta: it is probably safe
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to assume our nation's 50 governors are on edge. is the downgrade going to take our states' status down? jing us on the phone idaho's governor otter. your rating -- has just gone up in your state. do you worry the fact that the national rating has been downgraded is going impact you? >> good evening. no, i do not. it is not unusual for companies and subdepartments of those companies to differ in their financial value idaho, obviously with our upgrade, we went to aa+ while the nation was coming down. we saved when we had a surplus and didn't spend more than we had during the economic crisis. >> greta: was it tough to do that? that's the problem facing our nation now. how we can dig ourselves out
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of a mess that your state is emerging from. >> absolutely. i believe idaho and other states are a model for what the nation ought to do. i think paul ryan's plan was right. you have to cut back on the continuing cost and expenditure of entitlements. i used a term which i was criticized for in my last state of the state, the sole crushing tyranny of entitlements. it is tyranny for the taxpayers and for the continuation of government. >> greta: was to these people who no longer have these -- what happens to these people who no longer have entitlements and who are dependent on entitlements? >> with paul ryan's plan nobody was going to be cut off. >> greta: in your state, when you did it? >> we said we've been paying 15 -- 135% of pofr -- of
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poverty for folks we went to a means testing and said if you can pay part of the price for the services you are getting, you going to pay that price. >> greta: what happened? tell the people, were people thrown out on the street in your state, tell me what happened? >> no, no there wasn't anybody thrown out in the streets. there was lots of things that happened. first of course, people became more responsible for their own needs. when they had to share the cost when there was co-pay for some of the entitlements they were getting they were more judicious in how they spent that money. the second thing was churches and the rest of the community said we can help a little. buff to help yourself. >> greta: -- but you have to help yourself. >> greta: before you became governor you were a member of congress what do you think what is going on in congress
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and what about the thought of having them come back now rather than four, five weeks from now? >> i think the damage was done long before congress passed what they considered the solution. any time you create that much uncertainy greta, it is going to be disastrous for the psyche of the marketplace. any time that you've got gold over $600 of the s&p and within striking distance of the nasdaq, in values, that's serious problem. the people are looking at for intrinsic value. whether it is gold, food or whatever. any way, i think the damage was already done by the lack of leadership out of the white house. and in some cases because of the senate. the senate couldn't agree. we simply have to live within our means. >> greta: if we brought
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congress back now is that a stunt or could they make inroads and send a message and move us towards a solution? >> having been a member of congress and taking that month of august off, gone home and talked to the people, i think one of the best things that can happen. just like with what happened in years past, we people unhappy about a policy that was being advanced by the white house, in the last couple of years, the best thing that can happen is for congress to listen to the folks. take this month to listen to the folks. then go back with a focus on solving the problem. i think they ought to stay where they are. listen to the folks at home. go to the hearings they are going to have in the communitys analyst ton the folks and go back and check policy. >> greta: governor, thank you. now to london where violent
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riots have been rocking that city it is 3:30 in the morning london time. the city is on lock down with 16,000 police officers trying to keep control. the violence has been spreading. joining us ian evans a correspondent. tell me what is going on in london? >> reporter: london unfortunately tonight with massive police presence has been quiet. by and large the police have not been busy. different in other cities. cities like manchester, liverpool, birmingham, lester there have been outbreaks of violence, looting and rioting. >> greta: in terms of prime minister cameron has come off vacation he has called parliament back. what has been the i am bag of that? >> reporter: i think he's given some direction. when the rioting started
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saturday night he was abroad in italy. the mayor london was also on holiday. there's no commissioner at the moment permanent one. it was a bit of a vacuum. david cameron has come back this morning and stood on the steps of 10 downing street and said this is what we are going to do. this is the plan this is what the police is going to do. >> greta: why did this happen? does economics have any bearing on this? >> reporter: not really. it is easy for journalists to report on blame and find reasons. the reason this blew up saturday night was due to a killing in an impoverished area of long done where a suspected gangster was shot by police. -- area of london where a suspected gangster was shot by police. locals were angry about what
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happened. sunday night and tonight hadn't had much bearing on that dispute. it has been more economic youths want to steal tv's, stereos and loot shops. i was out last night in south london, quite a middle class area. spoke to a couple of guys involved on the periphery. they weren't interested in what happened, they were after goods from shops. >> greta: ian, the videos i realize it is in lock down tonight, those videos, buildings destroyed is extraordinary. so horrible. we are hearing about the lootings going on. i hope it is finally quiet. ian, thank you. >> reporter: cheers. >> greta: here's what is coming up on the o'reilly factor. >> bill: governor perry getting into the republican race, we hear. will that upset -- will that affect mitt romney in a bad
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way? what about michelle bachmann? >> greta: coming up, a senator says you are getting ripped off. if you pay taxes this is going to unglue you. critics are slamming representative michelle bachmann. now she has an unusual ally. the national organization for women. women. that is straight ahead. [ male announcer ] a moment that starts off ordinary can become romantic just like that. a spark might come from -- a touch, a glance -- it can come along anywhere, anytime. and wh it does, men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a clinically proven low-dose tablet yotake every day, so you can be ready anytime the moment's right even if it's not every day. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. don't take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. [ man ] do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis.
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>> from america's news headquarters, i'm ainsley earhardt. it is a done deal in wisconsin. republicans have managed to hold on to the control of the state senate. democrats have been trying to unseat six recalled republican senators in the wake of their acts to strip union rights of most public employees. democrats picked up two spots. police arresting three african refugees after a fake bomb was found in a carry-on bag at phoenix sky harbor international
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airport. they tried to get the items through airport security on friday and have been charged with having a hoax device and conspiracy to obtain a hoax device. police don't know the motive yet, but are not ruling out the possibility of terrorism. i'm ainsley earhardt. now back to "on the record" with greta. for all your headline, go to foxnews.com. you are watching the most powerful name in news, the fox newschannel. now back to greta. >> greta: new report says a vendor for the government is over charging our troops overseas for the necessities. overcharging can be government talk for stealing from you. you won't believe the dollar mark-up. where is the oversight by congress? we can ask, congress is still on that five week recess. here's griff jenkins. >> reporter: the end of july this report was issued that says among other things that iraq is less safe than it was
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12 months ago. and june was the deadliest month on record for u.s. troops in more than two years. perhaps what is most shocking is the claims that a u.s. government contractor named an ham overcharged the pentagon and the american taxpayers for items like control switches and pvc pipe, sometimes 5,000% mark up, even 12,000 in one case. we sat down with the inspector general to get answers. >> this is an example of failed government oversight and excessive billings by the contractor. specifically, a study in weak subcontractor management and the failure to review invoices. we have an example of a pvc pipe that costs $1.41. the university is government was charged $80 for this, a
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5,500% mark-up. $7 circuit switch, we were charged $900 for it. 12,000% mark-up. understandably costs are going to be higher in a war zone not that much higher. >> the anham representative that i've communicated with says what she finds astounding something the inspector general, in her words, not mine, doesn't take into consideration the security risk that -- the security factors and says essentially, listen it is not like you can go down to a hardware store on the corner and buy these items. >> it is true that it costs more to ship supplies into a war soon. it costs more to do reconstruction, obviously in an insecure environment. but it doesn't cost 12,000% more, it doesn't cost 5500% more to send a piece of pvc pipe into iraq. >> i'm not a contractor, but
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the american people kind of understand how these things work. anham says it is a competitive bidding process and that while someone approved these $80 pvc pipes that cost $1.41 as you say, why wasn't the competitive bidding process done anham says they won with the lowest cost and they say they saved the government money. >> our concern is about the bidding among subcontractors. it is disingenuous for anham to say it was over process it want. they selected the subcontractors who bid under their large contract. therefore, were these subcontractors bidding fairly i think there's some question. >> reporter: after our interview we caught up with
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senator collins the ranking member on the senate homeland security and government affairs committee. >> this is an area that cries out for increased congressional oversight. it is unacceptable, at this point in our commitment to iraq, to see billions wasted. >> reporter: are you telling you might call for hearings? you expect there could be hearings to look into this matter? particularly that one contractor this report has brought so much attention to? >> this does warrant hearings. our committee has jurisdiction over federal procurement laws. if this kind of contract can be award, it suggests to me that we need to take a closer look, not only at the companies that are doing business with the state department and defense department in iraq. but also, at our procurement laws. are they too loose?
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how does this happen? where are the contracting officials? where are the auditors? how can this kind of waste occur? it is discouraging as well as unacceptable, that we are still seeing the taxpayers being ripped off. to rip-off the american people in a war environment, is even more appalling. >> reporter: we've spoken with the folks at anham and gave them an opportunity to come on camera, they those to issue this statement: >> reporter: they continue to claim they've saved the u.s. government and american taxpayers 153 million dollars throughout the course of its contract. where does this leave us? inspector general says there will be a further
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investigation by the proper authorities and could lead to congressional hearings. >> it fits with the pattern of hearings the congress has been holding regarding contractor oversight this is the latest chapter in a series of problems that have been uncovered. shining more light will help clarify what needs to be done to improve the system. >> greta: it requires congress to do its job. >> strange bedfellows. national organization for women and representative bachmann, why are they pals? >> matt lauer under attack by guests on the morning show that does sound scary, stay tune have i got a surprise for you! a mouthwatering combination of ingredients... i know you're gonna love. [ barks ] yes, it's new beneful healthy fiesta. made with wholesome grains, real chicken, even accents of tomato and avocado. yeah! come on! [ barking ] gotta love the protein for muscles-- whoo-hoo!
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>> greta: here's the best of the rest. this may sound strange but the national organization for women is teaming up with republicans. okay, sort of. both groups are up in arms over the latest issue of "newsweek" magazine featuring michelle bachmann on the cover, critics calling it sexist. dubs her the queen of rage check out the cover shot, a less than flattering picture of the congresswoman looking a little frightened to say the least this the first time "newsweek" has gotten this
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kind of backlash remember governor palin in runner shorts? the women's group now at that time was quiet then. but they are speaking out now and better late than never. forgot to mention, "newsweek" editor's a woman, tina brown, go figure. >> matt lauer didn't see this coming. he and ann curry were doing a segment about exotic animals when a guest landed on his head. >> is that one potty trained? oh no! [ laughing ][ñ2d >> that thing has sharp claws. a little to the left. >> oh my lord. stay there matt, don't move. >> they are very gentle.
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>> greta: we wonder if that bird will be invited again? >> french are getting fancy when it comes to after hour cravings a bakery installing 24 hour automated beget dispensers. get fresh bread from a machine. right now there are two machines in tkpwrpbs and we would like one here in our break room here in fox in washington. >> finally, needles are the enemy for this new fashion statement. a dress made out of balance -- made out of 200 balloons. the artist has won prizes for her dresses. the dresses come with one big warning the balloons deflate after 24 hours. there you have the best of the tress.
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>> greta: 11:00 is almost here, flash studio lights, it's time for last call. yes, our credit rating is down graded but who knew it was this bad? >> from ratings standard and poor's down grade of the u.s. from triple a to aa plus. it.""kñ worse, today england, italy and greece befriended us on facebook. >> that is your last call. lights are blinking and we're go to greta wire.com and i put an open thread up. ñ about congress and talk about bret baier who is going to moderate the big debate from iowa on thursday night. you want to see that. in the meantime you know where to keep it. keep it right here on fox news channel. o'reilly factor is next. and

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