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calm bob down. he is over the edge. thank you for watching. keep it here on fox news. we'll see you tomorrow on "the welcome to "red eye. let's go to andy levy for a pre game report. what's coming up on tonight's show? >> remember, all you have to do is call on the funk, america. our top story, another day of riots in what used to be jolly old england. or as they called them over there, prams. and a new video introduces a contract for the american dream. we will have a fair and balanced debate about how this dream is really a nightmare straight ahead. and finally, who is the most hated person in america? the shocking answer that is not bill shultz. greg? >> happy play in the sand day, greg. >> i do a lot of that and i
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keep finding old baby ruth. >> are you sure that's sand, greg? >> it is right there in that flat, open container in your frige by the kitchen. >> yes, that's sand. enjoy the baby ruths. >> thank you. that's mighty generous. >> i have a pretty much unlimited supply of the baby ruths. >> you know they are my favorite candy. >> start the show, my man. >> i sure will. let's welcome our guest. she is so hot every room she enters becoming a smoking room. i'm here with criminal defense attorney remi spencer. he is witty, smart and unafraid, but enough about howie mandell. we have joe devito instead. and here is a fun fact, toilet seat covers were meant to protect the toilet seat from him. it is bill shultz. and she knows international affairs like i know ingrown hairs. sitting next to me, kc mcfar lond -- mcfarland, the host of
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fox news .com death con3. and he like a wall street journal without all of the subscriber baggage. it is our "new york times" correspondent. >> melissa counts the ways to cook an eggplant. this vie vaishs vegetable can be roasted, fried, grilled, mixed into salads, mashed into dips, stossed with pasta. > what is wrong with you? >> i want to look away. >> to the greg-alogue. it is a grape of goodness in a jello mold of malice. >> so they tweeted about a research paper linking budget cuts to social unrest in
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europe. once you cut an expenditure, instability increases rapidly, especially in terms of riots and demonstrations. the conclusion, governments fear uh stair tee programs for this reason. meaning riot, bloodshed, looting, so on, which is a sad and scary point. what protects bloated government is a fear that if you take candy from a baby, the baby will hang you in the square. i suppose that's one reason to avoid cutting programs if you are a coward. bottom line, you cannot beheld hostage by fear of unrest. you must always do the right thing no matter the risk. in a free country, the expectation should be saville tee of all costs. what guarantees that? punishment? fear of death? maybe. i lived in london for three years, and the cops were great. without guns they seemed helpless against thugary and more inclined to give directions to drunks like me. not their fault, but couple that with idiots and victims and it is no wonder they are
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manufactured for fun. looking at england we hit the edge of civilization. left unprotected the city will burn because there is no will to prevent it. leting it happen seems to be all we have left. if you disagree with me, you are a racist hoe ma fob. -- homophobe. that was somber. what is the latest on the london looting anyway. i'm glad you ask. it spread to other parts of england. some say aided by twitter. yes, the social media site is facing criticism for being an enabler for the bad behavior. but the company is not bowing to pressure. they refuse to close the accounts as they use the service to spread violence and public disorder. saying freedom of expolice, whatever that is, is essential and tweets must continue. speaking of freedom of expression, here are looters. >> they are in and out and taking what they want, really. some of the things is a flat
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screen television screen. you can see them on the floor. and these are a couple people who appear have been at it. i live here i am astounded at what you are doing. >> we are getting our taxes back. >> what do you mean by that? so by stealing things you are getting your taxes back? are you proud of what you are doing? >> that guy has serious balls. meanwhile, many of the goods are ending up on sites like ebay and internet destination. and the company is helping to identify stolen crap less the pilferers benefit from the pilfering. so how are the riots affecting fashion caps. --
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>> i think the good news is the london riots are not affecting the cats at all. we can breathe a sigh of relief for the felines. welcome back to the show. >> thank you. delighted to be here. >> i am glad you are. we also have joblessness rising in equality and what do you make of the linkage? >> a lot of these rioters, these looters are 12-year-old kids. the budget cutbacks and what do these kids do say, clive, where did you get the flat screen tv? we have a government that is too lax and the cutbacks are coming where they shouldn't come.
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they are cutting back 20% of the london police force. >> two things. i feel bad for cops. they are in the tightest spot. they are dealing with the hardships. they should be more protected and given more authorities. but also you used name clive. not a stereo type. not all people are named clive, except for clive owen. joe, what do you make of those saying they are just getting their taxes back. i bet you support that. >> that's a novel way to get your taxing back. i don't think it will spread to the united states. >> philadelphia. philadelphia is having a curfew. >> but that's actually for fun. it is not going to happen for two reasons. americans are too out of shape to sustain looting for any period of time. and also we have korean grocers in the united states. and that's what they need in england. they will be on the rooves with guns defending the property that they worked hard to gain. >> that's why they came to america to protect the private
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property. >> they were the american dream. they work hard to get the money. and that's what england needs. they don't need whistles and candy sticks. >> there are a lot of people protecting their stores in england, but even the cops are having to tell them to stop because they are worried that they might hurt somebody. it is a strange world. i suppose you would defend these looters. >> wasn't much of a question. >> you are talking to a criminal defense attorney. >> i know, i blame you for doing that. you would defend these criminals. >> greg would blame me for all of the rioting. i am not sure it is really about the political ideas. i don't think it is about people who are losing their handouts. i don't believe it is about socialism versus capitalism. i think people do this. this is human nature. a lot of these people wouldn't know what these handouts are even about. i think we see it in good
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times, and we see it in bad times. after every super bowl you can see people rioting in the streets. after tragic national disasters, people look for an excuse to do these types of things. if you don't think they will get caught and there is very little consequence to these actions. they will feel the iphone and throw the brick through the glass window and that's what this is about. >> it reminds me of the time the spice girls' movie closed after three days. bill went on a rampage in the village. it was disgusting. you were too weak to destroy anything. you kept pounding against the window and you broke a finger. >> i was weak, but the president of the spice boys fan club helped me break a couple of things. i felt like i made my point. i think it is a twitter thing. well, they are not going to do it, but for starters, it is a good way to track down any braggarts. and i don't want to get into
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the whole first amendment rant about where does it stop? mostly because i don't think they have a first amendment. where does it end? you stop about vial things like where you will loot. the bottom line is not once did i use the phrase slippery slope. i think i deserve a metal for that. at the end of the day it is a cliche. >> that is true. fantastic work there. >> how different is this from a normal day in england? they basically removed the soccer games. the rioting and the violence is associated to -- i believe it is called futbol there. actually the futbol supporters are out trying to support their communities which is nice. >> yeah, the real problem is knot just what is happening now. they will figure that out. but it is the olympics. a year from now we will have the olympics and they will be in london. the neighborhoods you have shown going up in smoke are where the olympics were. they are worried about
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terrorists and the israeli athletes who were seized during the munich olympics. they are not thinking about how to protect the neighborhood. the olympic committee -- >> some of the athletes are actually training in the looting. >> it is a javolin thing. >> i can't even make a sports joke. that's how little i know about sports. they are doing this thing. >> let's be honest. >> the feeble gesture i made. before i move on, i found this right before we went to the studio. the headline for this is great. i came out there and i can't see it. the london rioters recent media image of hooded teen thug. this whole story which is -- it is a reauters story saying how proud they were of it. but they don't like being portrayed as thugs. >> i wholeheartedly agree. we are forgetting it is a major contingent.
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and let's not forget 20% are mates. it is not the hoodies. >> you have the yobs. >> and let's stop being sexist. there are uh -- a lot of bird. >> from brits to twits. is using youth to push your version of the truth uncouth? nose if you are an organization called rebuild the dream. it was started in partnership with the lovely move on .org who produces a delightful movie for the unveiling of their contract for the american dream. the two-minute video uses kids to push the 10-point agenda. but don't worry. we won't make you watch the whole thing. no one cares about the viewers the way "red eye" does. get your barf bags ready. >> point number one, invest in america's infrastructure. >> point number two, create
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21st century energy jobs. we need more green jobs in america. >> three, invest in public education. >> four, medicare for all. we spend less on healthcare. >> let's ma i can it available for all-americans. >> seven, return the tax rate. if they don't pay their taxes, we will have to. >> add a new tax bracket for people making more than $1 million. >> finally we have to stop letting corporations be recognized as people. we are the people. they are not. >> i just wanted to play the dancing. that was like your dance last night. >> no, mine was way more
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rythmic. >> i will say those kids are adorable. but are you a lawyer. can we sue these children? >> yes, let's lock them all up. no, this is -- you know, this is a pretty outrageous video. i did watch the entire thing. i don't think america's youth really wants to torch this country -- to turn this country into a welfare state and looking for socialism or handouts. i think it is contrary to the whole american dream is about working hard, establishing something. it is about making a name for yourself and building a life and a family in this country which many people being born these days or in the last 10, 20 years didn't have to struggle to get here. didn't have to fight to become an american. it is sad to see younger people maybe getting a little more of an entitlement complex. they are feeling deserving of handouts when really this country is about working hard.
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i think most americans still believe that. >> somebody is running for office. wow, i would vote for you. kasey, is it okay to use kids to sell a political agenda? or does it come off as crap to you? >> it is such a dork. i grew up when they were supposed to be the cool guys. thisy were having the cool parties. i was a republican. everybody had their peter pan collars. that looks like something the good old republicans put out. >> you think it is reversed now where the left has become the right in terms of ernestness and humor lessness. and now it is rebellious to be on the other side. i didn't think of it that way, and that's why you are here. what do you make of this, joe?
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i saw you tearing up. >> i did because those bass -- those bastards are making me angry. the other night you were talking about the interview with gwenyth paltrow. you could not make a parity that hits the points better than what is out there. i am glad they are calling it a dream because you are dreaming if you think this will work. free medical coverage in places like greece and england. pony rides are not on the list. >> and number nine was end wars. let's start with the war in libya which we don't hear much about. >> it is a back burner war. >> you have iraq and afghanistan and you have libya. we are talking about doing syria.
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and bill's war. >> it is melanin or melatonin. >> are you outraged you with not represented in this glorious ad? >> i have a rainbow of true flavors and nor was my kind. i like the message. thought the kids were cute. what i didn't long, young mc's song at the end. if i may a lyric. okay smarty, you are going to a party. girls are cantly clad and showing body. a chick walks by you wish you can sex her. but you were standing on the wall like you were a . dexter. -- poindexter. this is not a good song, greg. >> i am outraged beyond my normal outrage.
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stop a body count of 1700 peaceful protesters killed since march. obama's blast was directed as muammar qaddafi, and we are still waiting for him to get back to us. i have been checking my voicemail. it was less than what we had actually expected and less than what the international community should do. 18 weeks and we still pay the price of the security council. perhaps the only thing that can fix syria is the feline that can fix anything. what say you? >> what are you doing? watch out. go away. >> is this your kitten? >> shut up.
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ever since triple-a cut back on their employees, they are sending out these lame kittens. >> they took it away. >> the car nofs and bye-bye mechanic cat. they are preparing a new 70 sanctions against syria. do we have good examples? >> the problem is syria is we shot our wad with libya. >> wow. >> i'm sorry. >> that's a "red eye" first. there is nothing -- what is he going to do? look at qaddafi. we said we would get qaddafi. qaddafi is having a blast. he is lawrence of arabia. >> is this calling for mill ter intervention? >> we don't have any military to intervene with. with syria, the problem is it
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is not in our interest to keep syria there. that doesn't mean we send in the troops. that means we talk to his defense minister and his military guy. what we do is go to serious neighbors. the foreign minister was there and he said, how can we help to you help get rid of these guys? there were indirect things we could do. talking about twitter and the rioting, well the syrian government has shut down their building to twitter. why don't we help them with their technology so they can do the spring thing. >> i think they are right. one of the biggest things happening in syria is there is no real communication. the people there don't have access to the outside world. and we are not see august lot of what is happening.
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if in fact what we believe is happening are thousands of innocent men, women and children are being fluttered, there need to be criminal charges and the international courts. >> he needs to be accountable for these things. >> why don't we take him out. >> even though we are not talking about wad shooting i think it might be easier. first of all, he is the weakest chin out of all of the dictators. he is from a group that is a very small minority in the country. that might be a good way to get him out. unfortunately, i don't think he has the paw swraz of qaddafi. he doesn't have the wardrobe. he is a loser among dictators. >> he is not going anywhere. he looks at egypt where we shoved mubarak out. he didn't stay and didn't fight. what is happening to mubarak?
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he is on trial for his life. he says, gee, if i leave quietly, politely and nicely, they will arrest me. the whole argument about the international court, it sounds good on paper, but it has the op -- the opposite affect. if they indict somebody. the dictator knows the minute he leaves his country he is going to jail. so he has no escape mechanism. why don't you leave and we will help you rooy settle in somalia. >> but will that be believed? and what is the alternative? is it to go in with the military? >> bill, you offered your apartment a number of times. >> he's got a big family. >> and i have none. >> first, you have the supreme court council condemning qaddafi within 11 days of the uprising. this took 18 weeks. the first point is they don't
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care about sear syria. they do nothing condemning stuff. and the third point is i love kt, but she exposed my weakness as a writer. why can i not start that segment with, have we shot our wad with uh sad? -- with assad. you exposed the fly in the oibt meant. >> do you have a comment on the show? e-mail us at red eye at fox news .com. and to leave a voicemail on my direct line 212-462-5050. still to come, the half time report from tv's andy levy. i hate him. >> tonight's half time report is sponsored by cup cakes. the small single serving treat baked in a mold and covered with icing for more sweetness. thanks, cup cake.
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andy levy. >> greg, how are you? >> great. >> outstanding. the bottom line, you cannot beheld hostage by fear of the unrest are. i would point out the only things being held hostage are the tea partiers. >> sorry about that. i wrote that greg-alogue and i can't use old hostage. have i been raging on that phrase. and then i went and did it. >> i'm sure no one will point it out though. >> you just did. >> you said a lot of these
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looters are 12-year-old kids and what do these parents do when their kids come home with a flat screen tv and the kid is named clive. if you have any information as to the identity of the looters you need to let the british authorities know. >> i will, thank you. >> joe, you pointed out property owners would be defending their stores with guns. i agree with, but let's be honest. some of the looters would also have guns. >> you know what, if you look at looters they put on the mob -- if you have a shootout, you take your chances standing there like a woos as they take your property. >> i don't know why you have to bring up the italians. >> he didn't say italian. >> i did say italians. >> you said they depend on the mob. >> it is very insulting. >> that's my point. it is very insulting. remi, you said it isn't about government programs.
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people just look for an excuse to do these things. i think it is a combination. some of the rioters are taking advantage of the situation. i think some think they are being political. >> that may be true, but they have no idea what that means. >> that may be true, but they think they do. >> exactly. >> twitter is refusing to close the accounts of rioters saying the freedom of expression is essential and tweets must continue to flow. i basically agree, but twitter notes that, quote, you may not use our service for unlawful purposes or in furtherance of illegal activities. >> interesting. >> don't they kick people off for just being annoy ?g. >> no. >> thank god. >> they wig kick you off for spam, but that's separate from just being annoying. >> so you can loot, but you can't spam. >> interesting. >> you can't hack.
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>> you can't send a spam promoting the designer shoes, but you can smash the window of the store. it is a subtle disstinks. -- distinction. >> should point out social media is being used to expose the rioters. london police put up pictures of those whose photo is on the flicker. and there is a twitter account called riot clean up which is allowing communities all across england to publicize and clean up efforts. >> there you go. >> yea, twitter. bill, england does not have a first amendment. it does maury strixes on speech -- more restrictions on speech than we do. and i am glad they are working to help recover stolen loot. but don't uh announce that. contract for the american dream video. remi, shame on you for thinking we should lock up all of these kids.
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they are just kids, man. >> greg said we should lock them up, and i said sure. >> horrible. >> you would lock them up. >> the worst ind could of -- worst kind of lawyer. i agree the left is a bunch of dorks. they make goofy videos too. >> i understand that children think they bother you. >> melanin is a skin pigment and it regulates your sleep in cycles. >> i thought he was talking about my sleep cycles. >> and it was a new song. >> great -- greatest band. >> i agree that the use of young mc was troubling. but not because of the unheard lyrics. it is the fact that the people who made this video seem to think that young mc is what the kids are listening to these days.
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>> they are time less, andrew. >> god. u.s. may call for president assad to step down. kt, you said we need to work indirectly to topple assad. would it change your mind if i told you assad met with the u.n security councilmembers and admitted that some mistakes were made by security forces? >> and qaddafi has done the same thing. but at the same time what he did was fired his defense minister who had been against the crackdown. there are rumors that the defense minister has been assassinated. he has a new defense minister. it is the easiest thing in the world. the u.n committee comes. i know it has gotten a little out of hand. see you later. and that's exactly what happened. >> you seem skeptical. >> what has he done to you to make you not trust him? >> it was since his wife got the article in vanity fair where she had the beautiful thing and she was the rose of
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the desert. mrs. clinton came tout and said assad was a great reformer and we can work with him. i smelled a rat. >> that was me. >> greg, you asked why we can't just take this guy out. first of all, because we don't live in a movie. >> i do. >> i know you do. it is the movie of your life. >> it is a major mission. >> don't know where it is going to go. i know i die at the end. >> can we fast-forward? >> spoiler alert. andy was a ghost the whole time. sorry, america. >> come on, man. >> and then bill dies in a cross country trip. >> bill turns out to be a dude. >> i like the spotlight. >> second of all, don't we have a policy preventing the assassination of foreign leaders? >> we do, but i wouldn't say we directly would take him out. and i don't say we necessarily kill him.
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we should encourage removal. >> i agree. you never said that. greg said why can't we just take this guy out? and that's what i was referring to. >> it is a policy. unless you declared war and that's the problem in libya. we can't assassinate him because we haven't declared war on libya. if you declared war it is an enemy combatant. the only problem is a bomb mysteriously drops on his head and he is killed. >> on one of the guidance systems on a missile mysteriously fails. >> yeah. so far it hasn't worked. >> it happened. i am done. >> sounds like you have been living in the terminator. >> i don't know what that means. >> some guy you met last night. >> that's the name of the my play room, terminator. >> coming up, ben afflec was hit by a bus -- boy who wasn't looking where he was going. don't worry he apologized.
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before he can rule he needs to go to school. it was until 2013. can't remember, actually. then he needs a major and knowing crap. it was about enrolling in a master's program in government and politics. what is the reality of city unions and infrastructure. decentralizing everything. how does it work?
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he says this while lounging on the hood of a pink golf cart. we should probably discuss this in our lightning round. can and will he win when and if he ends up running? there are four parts to that question. >> no, i don't think so. if you look at the demographics in new york, it will be very difficult for someone to succeed mayor bloomburg. hispanic, african-american and some minority group. >> anthony wiener almost did. >> i think that was more on his own mind or his own twitter account. >> joe, do you think when he enrolls in these courses he will go to class? >> is he going to mcgill university of canada? >> i don't know what he is going on.
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he needs to switch to some low sodium items there. >> instead of growing old they just grow out. >> i find alec baldwin to be adorable. remi, do you applaud him for knowing nothing about being mayor? >> well, i'm not sure that's exactly what he is saying. but, yes, i also find him very adorable. i am a big fan of his movies and his tv stuff. >> he is a big left wing guy. >> i know he is to the left, but beyond that i don't know anything. i respect the person who is considering putting himself out there in the public and running for office. i respect the fact he wants to educate himself before he does so. every single person in this country has an opinion about government. but no one really knows how to run a government. >> bill ran a government back in the 70s. >> no, that was just something
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i did in school. >> it was the head of whatever it is called. >> how will he rank in terms of the actors turned politicians? >> regan. >> i didn't hear that. >> i would say, i like alec baldwin and you can hear him say this stuff all of the time. he runs the gamut and i will tell you exactly why he chose this. he gets to stay in manhattan. he wants to go to his posh parties and things like that. he does president like sweating. she does it profusely. so he is not going to dc. he doesn't like being board so he won't go to albany. he will stay here and travel in his little parties. this is the one thing that will keep him in manhattan. albania is more fun. >> i don't know anymore. >> i enjoy him on 30 rock, but
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i don't enjoy his political beliefs and it is silly to think his career is not enough. he should be grateful and not ruin his life with his stupid political ideology. >> i spoke of mr. baldwin and he not only does not like the political beliefs, but he does not like "red eye." >> that hurts me deeply. >> but everybody on "red eye" runs for president. >> well, one person. >> mccodder, bacmann. , huckabee. >> we had ron paul on. >> and dennis could you sin -- could you sin -- kussinich. >> i love it when he sneaks in here and bites my knee. >> i believe in ufo's. >> i think he is taller than me. and gingrich.
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>> there are so many it is hard to keep them all straight. >> according to a poll that tracks public perception, casey anthony is the most hated person in america. she beat out the octomom, paris hilton and even my neighbor, greasy carl which is amazing because everybody hates greasy carl. are you surprised by the fact that it is casey anthony? >> no, i think the whole public is focused on her. we got owes ohms, so it is not going to be -- we got osama bin laden, so it is not going to be him. >> you can't hate a dead person -- well, you can. >> you can. >> is this a timing thing and then there will be a new villain. >> i think she should go with it with a mustache. she beat octomom. we hate people for having kids and killing kids. >> remi shouldn't casey
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anthony's lawyer be right there with her? >> are you such a jerk. no, of course not. it makes sense everybody hates er her. -- hates her. i believe she probably killed her daughter. but it fails to meet the standard in a criminal courtroom. if everybody in america believes she killed her daughter, she should be hated. but i question the poll. before oj simpson was some spencer pratt from the reality show, what did he do? did he kill anyone. >> not yet jie. you weren't included in the survey or you would have won, correct? >> you can't hate dead people, greg. >> somebody loves hitler. >> and i will add that greasy carl is a wonderful, wonderful man. that's thanks to his oily,
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old guy to take up hip-hop. this was directed at somebody. that and allen samuels. he is living the life and he wants everybody to know he is living the life. he is a casino executive. i don't care. >> he will close things out with a post game wrap up with andy levy. to see clips of recent shows go to foxnews.com/redeye when we lived the life.
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so a few things before we go. first on the next episode of "luis" which i believe is thursday at 10:30 p.m., i will be on playing me. it will be hard. and there will be no "red eye" because we will be bumped. i will be watching it. i will be watching it. what is wrong with me. coming up on friday, the next "red eye." we have return appearances from the former british
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soldier and anna gill law began and joe derosa with his glasses. >> now to andy levy with the post game wrap up. >> what is going on with def-con3. >> today we had an expert -- we had two economic experts talking about the european meltdown and how it will uh pekt the united states. and a guy in china is headed for the ropes economically. and we talked about the third which one man predicted will happen in october. >> pretty cheery show. >> do you have any kitten videos? >> maybe. we have a large middle east audience. >> kickback with a nice, tasty beverage and listen to that.
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that's fantastic. >> they like the kitty litter part. it is a sand thing. >> joe, where are you going to be this weekend? >> at wise guys in alexandria bay, and i hear it is pirate-themed weekend. i don't know what that means, but uh vast ye scailly wags. >> i will bring my lemons. >> that's how the british got the name. >> remi, do you have a vacation coming up? >> i do. i plan to be on a beach and siping a frozen drink and relaxing and away from you three crazy boys. >> little do you know, remi. >> yes we are. >> and a very happy birthday to you, andy levy which is
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