why won he put it in writing? >> he's going to put it in writing. >> sean: tax the rich. >> you better look out, you got rich in between -- [ talking over each other ] >> i'm still paying my tax bills from when i was a . >> sean: all you and your liberal friends -- tonight -- >> people like him and you ought to pay more. >> sean: greta is next. >> greta: this is a fox news alert. news out of tripoli. situation, fluid, chaotic, no one knows who is in charge. it is so chaotic media organization have been reporting the last 24 hours that gadhafi's oldest son had been captured. now a stunning development. joining us by phone from tripoli is a fox news producer. tadek what is the latest news from libya?

>> reporter: amazing developments. at the hotel the media being kept in the gadhafi-controlled part of the city. tonight, we have this convoy turn up at the hotel. inside a four wheel drive was saif al-islam he was supposed to have been arrested by rebels saturday evening. victorious charge from the city of -- they held early are in the week. saif is the heir apparant to gadhafi. he's a very urbane character. educated in europe. he's got amazing contacts in the business world. and he's got this aura about him, because he travels in the west, he he's being groomed for the to be job. we were told initially by media reports and the international criminal court were negotiating with the rebels for his handover to answer crimes against humanity. that's why it was shocking 24 hours after he was meant to

be lock and key he turns up at our hotel speaking to the media what did he said? he said, the first thing i asked, was where is your father? is he safe, well, where is muammar gadhafi is he in charge still? he said he's here with the rest of us. we only can assume that he means the gadhafi compound in tripoli that's where he took journalists and showed hundreds lining up to get weapons, ammunition to go back to their streets and fight this rebel advance. what does it mean for the conflict? it means that the national transitional council the rebel camp has lost a lot of credibility. they've been caught telling a lie. we have to wonder why they did it? did they think by saying saif had been captured by them and they were negotiating the surrender of another son muhammad and another had been killed, they were trying to make the whole city go with

them? we can only assume that is what they were trying to do. what it says to us, this man took journalists back to his compound showed volunteers lining up. they still control big parts of this city and they are not out of this fight yet. they have a point prove and want to make a stand. >> greta: tadek, thank you. that's one piece of the puzzle. steve harrigan joins us live from libya. >> reporter: greta, some obscureties there surrounding the story. a short time ago we were offered an interview with saif al-islam 50 miles outside of tripoli. they said they held him in prison here. we could have the interview. that would have been an unusual feat considering he was in tripoli. we've seen real credibility gaps throughout this conflict on both sides. perhaps on the rebel side

sometime their inexperience in the battlefield this time mirrored in their inexperience in dealing with the media. be that as it may, what saif said, luring the rebels into a trap is hard to take at stpraeuls aoufpl it is true there has been -- hard to take at face value. it is true there has been a shift. 24 hours ago there was a sense of euphoria, that tripoli was about to fall that they had or would soon capture colonel gadhafi. that has not come to pass. what we've seen is the beginning of a worst-case scenario that is, brutal urban warfare. the gadhafi government used at least one scud missile against its people today. it opened tank fire in the capital as well and there were a number casualties. how many we can't say. certainly a shift in mood, one day after a sense that victory was close at hand. as far as the rebels go, the opposition, one positive point for their side, that is, they

have taken control over the international airport in the capital. certainly significant real estate there even as the bloody fighting inside the capital continues. >> greta: steve, who has more firepower? whose got the weapons? >> reporter: certainly the heavy weapons and the training is still on the side of the government forces. momentum at this point with the capital sealed off has to be on the side of the opposition. >> greta: steve, thank you. libya of course is very far from all of us. why should you be thinking about libya tonight? why should you care? moments ago we asked senator john mccain. senator, nice to see you. >> nice to see you greta. >> greta: certainly a lot developing in libya tonight. most americans say look at what is going on they think libya is far from us. we've spent 896 million dollars until the end of july on this war. we are already at two wars.

what is the most convincing, compelling reason -- i know you are a strong spew porer for this military -- strong supporter for this military action by nato. why are we helping them? >> i know we are helping them because gadhafi is a person who is capable of carrying out acts of terror. he has the blood of americans on his hands, as a result of pan am 103 he's a person who over time would, if he were able to succeed, would clearly train terrorists and export terrorism. by the way, i think that the tnc or the ntc, will govern. and i believe they were govern effectively. we have a lot of challenges, including reconciliation. no human right abuses. we have to secure the arms depots. we have to make sure that the

prisons are liberated. because there's hundreds, if not thousands of political prisoners. we have to make sure as much as we can, that we make a transition to this government as quickly as possible. >> greta: you mentioned pan am 103. that was 1988. we've been waiting a long time for justice in america. and what i thought was one of the grossest insults to the united states when scotland released one of the killers. he went home to libya. he got a hero's welcome and we stand and watch and do nothing. why now get tough when we've let all these things happen? >> well, there was some funny business that went on with his release, as has been widely rumored. i think since he was dying was the reason why he was sent home. since he's not dying maybe he ought to be sent back. right now there are arms

deposes that are -- depots that are full of weapons, including possibly hand held surface-to-air missiles we have to secure those depots so they dope get in the wrong hands. we have to make -- they don't get if the wrong hands. we have to try to see public billings are not destroyed as happened in baghdad. so the government can continue to function. -- we need to help them. keep government sphraoeulg goods and selfs to the people. -- supplying goods and services to the people that doesn't moon money. they've talked to me about reimbursing the united states for costs incurred in this conflict. they have 30 some billion dollars tied up which will be freed up for them. money is not the problem. making this transition is the real challenge. a lot can got wrong. we have to do what we can to make it go right that means with technical assistance from the europeans and ourselves. >> greta: you mentioned weapons. with great fanfare our

government in 2004 when gadhafi apparently gave up his weapons of mass destruction and he was taken off the state department's terrorism list, to great fanfare, i thought the united states was working side by side as he was dismantling this. at least that's what the appearance was when he was taken off the terrorism list, am i wrong? >> i think you are right. though it was important for us, the nuclear capability he had been developing. the surface-to-air missiles, there are supposed to be thousands. we don't want those in the wrong hands. supposedly mustard gas stocks as well. again, we ought to secure these depots so these weapons aren't spread out all over that part of the world. yes, it was good sign when he dismantled his nuclear capabilities. but it certainly was a long way from total disarmament.

>> greta: are you saying that but for the turmoil when some of the libyans the rebels took to the streets and created turmoil we sort of had a high interest because of those weapons and how could be used around the world? is that what spiked your interest in this? >> no, the people of libya rose up. they were on their way to tripoli many if we declared a no-fly zone it would have been over then. i have to state united states intervening when gadhafi was on the outskirts of benghazi said he would go house-to-house and killed anyone that opposed him that was a prevention of a catastrophe. these people were fighting for freedom, for democracy and for their god given rights. if gadhafi had remained in power, no doubt his efforts to foster;hçñ terrorism throughout the world, particularly against the united states, would have been increased dramatically. so it became a national security issue.

what this is about is the arab spring. assad is next. china, russia and other places, they are uneasy. this is about people aspiring for freedom. that's what the libyan people have just achieved. >> greta: how is that different than in june of 2009 in iran when there was beginning to be the uprising? we had a different -- we had no response. should we have had a different response then? >> i think the greatest mistake certainly in the early period of the obama presidency was when people were chanting in the streets the demonstrators in english, obama, obama, are you with us or with them? he came out and said he didn't want to jeopardize his chances to negotiate with the islamic republic of iran. we abandoned them. and the iranians cracked down. by us not encouraging them, as hopefully we are encouraging

the people of syria, we really let them done. i was a huge mistake. -- let them down. i was a huge mistake. >> greta: were you on cbs, in describing governor palin. you described her as very formidable. what does very formidable mean? do you have any inside information? >> i have no inside information. i think she would make a viable candidate. i continue to appreciate her and her hard work. and consider her always a good friend. i think she would make a big impact on a presidential campaign. she has a very strong following. >> greta: i know 2007, at this time, things did not look like that you were going to get the nomination, which you did. are things -- does there come a time when it becomes almost too late to get in? obviously the filing deadlines. can candidates get in now and be viable? >> greta, let me remind you

this time in 2007, i was given up for dead. they weren't even mentions my name as a candidate. i think that it shows there's a lot of things that are going to happen between now and when we select our nominee. i think it is very clear that romney is in a strong position. governor perry has added a lot to the race. i congratulate tim pawlenty on running a fine race. i think sarah will have an impact. i think giuliani may still come into the race. i think there's a lot of things that are going to happen between before we select our nominee. i respect all of them. i'm not red "to endorse at this time. could i add -- ready to endorse at thyme. could i add one point on libya, sorry to interrupt. there's out there on a blog an allegation that somehow the national transition council would favor imposition of sharia law. on march 11th, they've issued

a man foes toe, the state will gearan toe the -- a manifesto. i have detected no effort or motivation amongst the national transition council, many of whom i know well, to impose sharia law. >> greta: would you not agree there's always uncertainy in situations like that much like we have in egypt the uncertainty with who is going to take control there and who they are once they do take control. >> i believe that there is great uncertainty, particularly in a country that has never known democracy. so that's why i think it is incumbent upon us and the europeans not through money, but getting technocrats in to provide goods and services from the government. show them how an election works. they say it is going to be a two year period. i agree. we can provide them enormous

assistance. of course there are extremist elements there as there are in every country. we've got to do what we can to help them make that transition. i think they are eager to do that, without turning to radical islam. >> greta: do you think president obama has the same commitment to helping them out that for instance you would like to see? >> i believe so. i think the president understands what is at stake here. it is not only for the good of the libyan people, but it is not in america's national security interests to see that country turn radical. there is going to be two steps forward and within step back. it took us 100 years and a -- bloody civil war to figure out what kind of country we were going to be. let's give them a chance and help them with technical assistance many they are not going to need our money. let's celebrate a day when a brutal dictator is on his way out. and let's hope that assad is

next in line. >> greta: thank you. >> thanks for having me on. >> greta: right now the rebels in libya want justice. what about americans? will americans get justice? remember pan am 103, 1988, 38 minutes into flight from london headed to new york, 259 innocent people murdered over lockerbie, scotland, mothers, fathers, children, college students and more. libya did it, their plan, they executed it. one killer was caught, and sent to prison in scotland. we thought it was for life. then another injustice. scotland lets him go sends him back to libya where he gets a hero's come. joining us john bolton. -- is it fair game to bring in topic into the libya discussion about the unrest there and the possible overthrow of gadhafi? is this a relevant part of the story? >> absolutely. i think the united states

should insist that ma heat be isn't to the united states. -- mama -- part of the deal that was cut was that libya would cooperate with the scottish investigation and they did not. i think whatever deal we had was voided by the libyans. there were 189 americans killed on pan am 103. i would bring him to this country. >> greta: when he was tried in scotland, did we make any agreements where we would go after gadhafi on this or after him if he got out? any impediment to us getting justice? >> i don't think so. i think we made a lot of concessions agreeing he be tried under scottish law we gave up the death penalty. the secretary general of the united nations sent a letter to gadhafi counter signed by representatives of britain and the united states that the scott tick investigation and here's the key phrase, would not -- scottish investigation

and here's the key phrase would not undermined the government of libya. how outrageous the order had to have come from gadhafi. no double jeopardy problem there. before gadhafi gets tried by the libyans or the international criminal court, we ought to have him sent to the united states too. >> greta: ambassador, i don't think we have the whole story on this the fact he was released by scotland for compassion reasons, saying he had a medical condition. he's living happily ever after now in libya. i smell a rat. >> no doubt. >> greta: where is the rat, they shouldn't have released this guy? >> british petroleum. british wanted more oil leases in libya. they had been trying to increase their ties for years. i think there was a quid pro quo. i think scottish government's argument this was compassionate release is hypocritical. they timed agreement with the

united states that ma heat -- that ma i had would stay in the united states. it is outrageous. >> greta: i cannot believe don't believe we don't have diplomatic muscle with scotland and britain that we couldn't have stopped this we sat there looking. >> it is worse there. were press reports that the u.s. ambassador to the united kingdom when told megrahi was going to be released said we understand the need for this if you calculate 2670 -- 270 dead it worked out that megrahi spent two months in prison, per murder victim. >> greta: if our leaders had only talked to some of these victims. i remember one might talking to the brother of one of the men who died on the plane. he wasn't supposed to be on that plan he stayed an extra day to work. he said his brother always got

on business class and got a scotch. he could envision him having a scotch, and then blowing up. not to mention the college students. it is beyond me our government can go whatever. >> for people who complain about airport security think about those poor people falling out of sky from 30,000 feet think about what that would be like if you don't like the inexpect shuns at the airport. >> greta: -- if you don't like the inspections at airport. >> greta: i don't like our government was so weak in light of what happened. maybe this will be our chance, he will go back to jail, who knows, whatever. thank you. >> thank you. >> greta: from his vacation on mvp. sends a message to the people -- on martha's vineyard, president obama sends a message the people of libya. what does it mean for us? how involved should and will the united states get from

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. >> we live here and we die here. we are going to win. because the people are with us. that's why we are going to win. look at them. look at them. in the streets, everywhere. >> greta: that is colonel gadhafi's oldest son speaking on camera about an hour ago. it is 4:22 a.m. in tripoli. libya is in chaos. hours ago president obama planned to the people of libya we will stand by them. critics are slamming him. some say he was too slow helping. others say why did he get us involved in this? major general bob scales joins us. general, listening to my two colleagues in libya, sounds like the libyan government has the heavy machinery and the rebels have the enthusiasm. which said would -- which side would you rather be on?

>> i think gadhafi's is taste. any time you control all of the key terrain, airports, surrounding area, suburbs, radio station, access to fuel, food and water, ultimately, this contest is over. the only question is how long is it going to take and what is the price in blood going to be? >> greta: i think there is still another question this is a war. maybe a civil war. once over what happens next? we've seen it seems easier to win the war than to figure out what to do once the war is over and now you have a country with no government. >> that's true. we learned that in baghdad. getting here was ugly. it took five months, a it is going to take more than five months to help the libyans sort this out. -- it is important the united states supports the libyans, but let them do it

their way. i think too heavy a hand by the united states over the next few months can make the situation worse rather than better. this is not going to be pretty. it is going to be ugly. from all that eye heard from my sources particularly in the -- that i've heard from my sources, particularly in the pentagon. it looks like they've got the right motives. not will tell you they are politically stable. they will sort this out. democracy is new to them. given time and once gadhafi is again, i think eventually we'll have a stable government in libya. perhaps not a jeffersonian democracy. >> greta: you are more optimistic than i am. this transnational council, i don't know who they are friends with. it is a ragtag organize just got formed. the united states just recently recognized them as a group of people under horrible conditions trying to create a

government. we don't know if they are friends with hezbollah, al-qaeda with the boys club of the united states. we don't know. if you say we need a hands off, do we create a vacuum so some people who don't like us can move in? even like in egypt work the muslim brotherhood they looked different in the beginning than they do now. things change. >> first of all, this is the middle east. you and i have had this conversation before. libya is not egypt, libya is not afghanistan this is a country that is small only six million. they have a great deal of oil wealth. they have believe it or not, a well educated middle and upper middle class. strong ties to europe, particularly to italy, france and great britain. they are technically competent. and thereforeeb9÷, i'm perhaps a bit more optimistic than many folks right now many once the chaos is over. once gadhafi is gone. once his mercenaries are

disarmed and once the ntc has had a chance to grab the reins of power. at the end of the day i think at least as far as libya is concerned it is going to be stable and we in the united states should let the libyans sort this out themselves. >> greta: i'm not suggesting we get involved. this is in the back of mind. okay they got a lot of money. first risk of money grab. money doesn't always bring out the best in people. that bothers me a little. then you say they have this sophisticated back , well educated, then i think why in the world did they put up with this guy for the last 42 years or whatever i was? i'm hopeful, i don't want to get us overinvolved. it is hard, looking at this video tonight and what has happened in other countries, to have as much optimism many. but i want your optimism general. -- >> once this guy is gone libya is going to be in a better

mace. the hardest part of war is sort of -- sort of making the peace that's what we are into now. i have to be honest from all that i've seen, it looks chaotic, it looks messy, ugly sometimes in the mideast that's how these types of governments evolve. let's back off let them sore it out. after them help and aid. don't offer money. and act as a back stop for our european allies, particularly the italian, french and british. they should take the lead in the peacemaking business as they did in the war-making business. >> greta: you may be more optimistic. general, always nice to see you. >> you too greta. >> greta: tea party activists listen up, congresswoman max soon waters blasts you. we have it on tape -- >> news about which is questions congressman ryan

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tea party. >> i'm not afraid of the big bad wolf. i'm not afraid of anybody this is a tough game. you can't be intimidated. you can't be frightened. as far as i'm concerned the tea party can go straight to hell! [ cheering and applause ] >> and i intend to help them get there. >> greta: representative waters isn't just blasting the tea party. last week she slammed the president for his approach to the economy. joining us byron york. tea party under fire? >> definitely under fire. we should say representative waters was upset, not only with the tea party but with democrats for as she said it, giving into the tea party and the debt ceiling negotiations. she was angry the agreement was passed without new taxes, new revenues. she was saying they had acted in bad faith. clearly this is not the new civility that the president

was calling for earlier this year. you can imagine if it were said in a different context, about president obama, it would certainly get a lot of comment and criticism. but that's what she said. >> greta: i think it would behoove the critics of the tea party to get out the old fashioned calendar. if you go back, they came to life, pretty much, april of '09. basically tax day. they were mad at the state of the economy. they were mad, if you go back to 2007, when you had fannie mae, freddie mac, the credit swaps that put us in this housing hell to use a word from maxine waters the congresswoman. you've got the aaa rating from s&p and toxic credit swaps. it was all under the watch of congress. congress, they looked the other way. put us in this economic hell.

two years later the tea party comes along. and they are giving the congress hell now. now they are getting accused of being the bad people. >> they are not going to stop. i remember going to tea party rallies on tax day in 2009, very energized by the stimulus and also tarp. which they greatly opposed that. the issues they had, which is growth of federal government, growth of federal spending, are still there they north happy with the debt ceiling agreement. >> greta: my point is wong res wind listening to them. i don't get the sense that congress is listening. that's why they keep getting more vocal. the problems about which they complained happen several years ago. >> i would disagree. maxine waters very vocal this case. i think a lot of republicans to the top in the house would tell you that the budget they passed and the stance they

took on the debt ceiling would not have happened without the tea party that brought those issues to the -- >> greta: i'm just saying, what i'm trying to say is that the people who are now criticizing the tea party created the problem about which they were upset and they didn't listen now they are the bad guys. >> absolutely. maxine waters in a very safe seat in california. she represents a certain segment of the left side of the democratic party. and she is going to say what she is gonna say. >> greta: a lot of member of congress said they need go home to listen to fan out what their constituents are saying. i thought they must be delusional. all these tea party people are vocal in how they feel. many of the nontea party people send e-mails. people will say things. it is they won't listen. >> it is a big country. with max soon waters, she have

voted overwhelmingly reelected every year that's what her constituents want to hear. >> greta: is that her job? >> sure. if you voted for jim demint in south carolina you probably got a different world view. she does represent her congressional district. like 500,000 people now. and that's what they think. >> greta: any way, enough of civility. byron, nice to see you. coming up paul ryan [ unintelligible ] here's a tease, why is governor perry reaching out to the congressman? [ male announcer ] looking for a complete picture of your money? meet pnc virtual wallet. it comes with a calendar that shows you all your finances at once. it lets you know when your money's going out. and when it's coming in. it even tells you when you're running low. we call that danger days. it's built to help you see your monein a whole new light. experience everything virtual wallet has to offer

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pounding puerto rico and dominican republic. hurricane center in miami says irene might slam in the southeast coast of the u.s. by end of the week. south carolina, florida and georgia at risk. >> new york city prosecutors asking to dismiss sexual assault charges against dominique strauss-khan former head of the imf arrested in may after allegedly trying to rape a manhattan hotel maid. prosecutors said the maid has repeatedly given false information. a judge will hear the request to drop that case tuesday. i'm ainsley earhardt we now return to on the record with greta. thanks for watching fox and have a great night. >> greta: don't look for congressman ryan's name on the ballot for president. announcing he will not be lucky number 13. other contenders.

last week governor perry's campaign reached out to congressman ryan, why? joining us stephen hayes. nice to see you. he's out? >> he's out. final decision. never in. indiana governor daniels said that he wasn't running paul ryan stopped, started the long process of thinking about getting into the racism he consulted with strategists. -- into the race. he consulted with strategists. he talked to his family. after thinking about it for three months. he decided he want going to go. >> greta: how old is he? >> 41. i think that that is really old. grell >> greta: i'll reserve comment on that. -- he's got a great job now. enormous amount of ability to -- [ unintelligible ]

>> that's one of the arguments. house republican budget that passed last spring wouldn't have happened without paul ryan there was a big internal fight about whether to include entitlement reform or not. he won that fight i think change the debate in the country and going forward in the 2012 election. we've seen his influence already. the question was, especially on big dollar republican fundraisers, would he -- could he chang the 2012 race in a fundamental way -- by making this a big issue talking the long term fiscal solvency of the united states? >> greta: i think he's a viable vice presidential candidate. senator rubio in florida because of the electoral college votes in florida. wisconsin, 12 points for obama last time. now he's not doing so well in wisconsin, republican governor. i would be surprised if he's not a viable candidate. >> i have the opposite view

for this reason, think i you are right, wisconsin is arguably going to be the schwinny of swing states. z less likelihood ryan would be on the ticket he would re-introduce at the end of the summer the paul ryan budget the kinds of things that some republicans want to run on, but would want to run on for a year with ryan making their arguments not the thing that romney or perhaps a perry would like to reengage with two[%y months left in the race. i wish they would. it is one of the reasons i thought many thought right wrap would be a good candidate. just in terms of practical politics, there are lots of reasons to pick marco rubio, maybe fewer to pick paul ryan. i perry

calling? >> he wants to talk about the big ticket issues. he wanted a candidate to issue a pro growth set of ideas for the republican party. perry hearing that said i would like to talk with paul ryan about possibly doing that. they will meet in the next couple of weeks. >> greta: we'll see whether i'm right or you're wrong for vp. nice to see you. >> straight ahead a baseball game like no other. one player uses his head to bring his team to victory. wait until you see this video. [ cat meows ] [ woman ] ♪ i just want to be okay ♪ be okay, be okay ♪ i just want to be okay today - ♪ i just want to knowoday - [ whistles ] ♪ know today,now today - [ cat ows ] - ♪ know th maybe i will be okay ♪ [ chimes ] travelers can lp you protect the things you care about... and save money wi multi-policy discounts. are you getting the coverage you need... and the discounts you deserve?

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he couldn't help striking a pose with his new camel friends. is the vp having a better time than president obama on martha's vineyard? is the vice president also hitting the mat? we don't know how he fared in this match-up. it out, looks like he does have some competition here. vice president biden spent six hours in mongolia. but he's coming back with plenty of pictures. that really is the best of the rest. >> coming up, your last call. no he's not a fox news correspondent, not yet. actor rob lowe is taking to fox to ask donald trump the ultimate question, next.

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surprise this morning on fox and friends. donald trump and actor rob lowe talking about politics. >> i wish you would reconsider. there is still time. if palin is thinking about getting in there is still time for you. i think you'd be great. i wanted to see new a debate. that would be my favorite part. is there anyway you can reconsider? >> well, i will say this. i am watching but i watch those debates and they're on the boring side, aren't they? it's interesting, they talk about the economy, nobody mentions countries throughout the world that are ripping the united states. it's one of the biggest problems we have with the economy. >> what about vice president? someone throwing out the name rudy giuliani. but what about vice president for you? vice president trump? you don't want to be number two? >> i love what i'm doing but i'm watching what's happening. the wrong thing happens, things can happen with me. >> we'll see if rob lowe has