not a word you hear used frequently, but interesting word, nonetheless. again, thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out for definitely looking out for you. closed captioned by closed captioning services, inc. >> sean: the president's job approval continues to nose dive. a new poll shows that gop candidates are closing in. newt gingrich is here with reaction. >> obama slammed president bush over the debt during the 2008 campaign. >> added four trillion by his loansome, irresponsible.

unpatriotic. >> sean: four trillion is how much the anointed one has now added to our debt. >> democrats use yesterday's quake to push for more spending. leave it to liberals to try to capitalize on a frightening afternoon for many americans. >> the congressional black caucus turns on the president. >> unemployment is unconscionable. >> sean: then turned on the tea party movement. >> the real enemy is the tea party. >> sean: hannity starts right here, right now. tonight we are monitoring breaking developments out of libya as well as on the presidential election front at home in a moment i will be joined live by newt gingrich. we'll get his reaction to all of this. first, new polling data on president obama that is making his already uphill reelection battle steeper. last night we told you his overall approval rating has reached an all-time low that

is only the beginning. survey released now shows that the president's support in the critical swing state of florida, stands at only 37%. 57% say they disapprove of the job that he's doing. that same percentage of people, majority, 57% of those polled in florida, they said they do not think the president deserves to be reelected. additionally in the president's hope state, a study by the illinois policy institute reveals in july illinois lost more jobs than any other state in the union. this rise in unemployment comes a few months after governor quinn signed massive tax hikes into law. with this in mind we wait for the president's so-called jobs plan. a plan he will not unveil until after his vacation on martha's vineyard. joining us newt gingrich. welcome back. >> good to be with you. >> sean: you are a historian. these are devastating up

thises. gallup low 38%. rasmussen lowest in his presidency. optic of him on a golf course during an earthquake. a plan to be revealed for jobs three years into his administration. does he have a chance to come back? is there a way to jobs without abandoning his rigid ideology? >> you just asked two different questions. a chance he could come back? absolutely. either the republicans could self-destruct or obama could begin to do things right. is he likely to come back? not without changing what he believes. how he operates. the fact is, class warfare kills jobs. bureaucratic socialism kills jobs. he believes deeply in both. one of the reasons he can't give us a jobs' speech tomorrow morning is they are trying to be clever. the reason is, nothing that will really work fits their ideology.

i think we are in for a very serious period. the congressional budget office came out and said we should expect very high unemployment for years and years to come. that suggests to me, that we ought to have a very dramatic change in direction. i've been trying to convince congressional republicans that they ought to take the lead. don't -- you have a president who you know doesn't understand free enterprise, job creation. let's not just talk about january 2013. what could we do in september to set up a series of choices where president obama would have to concede to the american people the kind of policies that would create jobs? i think there are steps that could be taken. one, to take a bill introduced by two democrats, senators webb and warner of virginia who introduced a bill that says virginia ought to be allowed to develop natural gas and oil offshore. they would split the revenue with the federal government,

50% to washington, 37 1/2 to the commonwealth, 12 1/2% to land conservation and infrastructure. i think the house republicans ought to pass that bill the first couple days after they come back. send it to the senate. what is harry reid going to do with a pro-jobs, pro-american energy, pro-royalties bill, introduced by two of his democrats? i think it is hard to bottle it up at that point. >> sean: you are probably right. let me make a prediction. i think i've had a god read on this president from the beginning. i'm not -- had a good read on this resident from the beginning. i'm not patting myself on the back. socialism, predictable, this is jimmy carter this wasn't hard to figure out. i predict he will repackage his same policies with new focus tested, poll-tested words and use the words investment, infrastructure. try and alienate the country

from the republicans and blame he's going to say we gotta raise taxes. why should i think he's going to do anything differently? >> i think you have been more accurate than any other single person. i say this with some humility for eight months in 2008 you you were right. -- you and i disagreed. i was wrong, you were right. if that is true he will be a one-term president. what i worry about is the pain that this drama is causing the american people. there are millions and millions of people out of work. more millions of people frightened about what is going to happen. i think somehow, we need to find ways to provide leadership, despite the president not just to condemn him, not to attack him. but to try to find, maybe by creating bipartisan majorities with democrats who are not socialists, not committed to

class warfare that's why i like the webb-warn irbil, because it is a start. -- >> sean: there's a lot of senate democrats now up for reelection. there is evidence and signs that are building that democrats want to separate from the president. you see recent attacks, we'll show this later, for example the congressional black caucus. they are angry with the president. his left wing base is angry with the president. there might be an opportunity, especially with unemployment this high, economy not creating jobs. i would think some democrats want to separate from him. >> when you listen to the black caucus, 43% black teenage unemployment under this president. that's a level of personal pain. family pain. virtually every african-american church in this country has members who are now unemployed. i think a republican party that says we are not going to wait for a year and a half of name-calling. let's find positive ways to create jobs now. let's find ways to unleash

small business now let's find ways to reach out and help america now. i think that puts the president in a deeper box than just getting involved in ideological fight with i am h it lets us start moving to preempt the super committee which i think is a very bad idea and dangerous idea. i think that the congress ought to have all of its committees and subcommittees doing their job in september, not just one group of 12. >> sean: look, everybody wants gadhafi gone. has anyone thought about what going to happen in the short term? we have varying factions, some with islamic extremists, mustard gas, chemical weapons, yellow cake uranium. who is in control of this? what happens from here on in now that gadhafi is gone? potential for an islamic state? >> ambassador bolton has been warning across the region this administration doesn't understand what is going on. we've seen several incidents involving egypt in which the

government has moved in an islamist direction. allowed infiltrators to cross the sinai for the first time in 30 years. there are things that are happening that are very dangerous in libya, syria, yemen, in frankly iraq andafter -- and afghanistan as well as egypt. i think this arab spring could turn into a dangerous season. i don't see any sign that the obama administration has any strategy for the region. >> sean: always good to see you. >> the left's favorite adage never let a crisis go to waste is back to work. how they are going to try to use the earthquake yesterday for more spending. >> senator barack obama called president bush unpatriotic for doing the same thing that he himself has now done in half the time, less than half the time. we have the condemning speech, on tape. on tape. we'll show that to you, next. [ jon ] up in alaska, we find the best sweetest crab

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deficits will be around 3.5 trillion over the next 10 years. our debt will equal a whooping 61% of gdp. if we look at 2008, then senator obama claimed on the campaign trail adding that much to the debt was unpatriotic. >> the problem is, the way bush has done it over the last eight years, is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from five trillion dollars, first 42 presidents, number 43 added four trillion by his lonesome. we now have over 9 trillion dollars of debt. that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it is unpat -- unpatriotic. >> sean: ironic. according to the treasury department four trillion

dollars is how much of the national debt has increased under the president's watch. it is the fastest debt increase under a president in u.s. history, shocking. here with analysis, radio talk show host, fox news contributor and co-host of the beckel's five show. >> five. >> sean: monica crowley and sandra smith. is the president calling himself unpatriotic? using his words and definition i would never suggest such a thing. >> amazing four trillion spent in eight years under president bush was according to then candidate obama, unpatriotic. adding four trillion in 2 1/2 short years unbarack obama is fine. his criticism of bush's spending was because bush was spending on things that obama disagreed with like iraq, afghanistan the wars. when obama is spending on his priorities like obamacare, stimulus and the things we know have failed, that's fine.

>> sean: i thought in the age of obama civility, i'm sure he was leading by example the whole time, right sandra? i'm thinking if i said that about him, now, and i call the president unpatriotic, which i wouldn't do, what would happen? monica crowley said -- >> you would be demonized. >> sean: i would be ex-correlated. -- i would be excoriated. >> anybody who looks at these numbers the debt was 10.6 trillion when he took office, 14.6 trillion today. he called it patriotic then. he spent at a faster rate than any president before him. the scariest thing about these numbers is the position this puts us in as a country. people know at home, when you are overleveraged as a household you have to answer to other people. other people are going to decide how you spend your money that's the position -- >> sean: i have livedded with

little money in my life. scraping together the rent money. not going out to eat. not going to martha's vineyard. i've been there and i've struggled at different points of my life. what is amazing, if we run the government the way most households, we would be fine. >> that's the fear. the way they are going to combat in problem and solve unemployment, is with more spending. as they would call it infrastructure investments. when he comes back from martha's vineyard is he will come back and talk about more spending. >> sean: they've already indicated that. he mentioned china in this. i found that amazing considering this week joe biden is over bowing to the chinese, supporting their one-child policy of forced abortion. i don't have a problem. i understand. one person supporting four retirees. i'm thinking, we are so beholding now to the chinese we can even take on the --

>> absolutely was so pathetic the american vice president standing on chinese soil saying don't count out the united states. we are not done yet. buying into the theme about american decline, which this administration has fed into. the other irony, every time major chinese leaders have met with president obama, secretary clinton, secretary geithner, they've used that time to lecture the united states about our spending levels and debt. here you have the chinese communist lecturing the american capitalists. the chinese are right. >> sean: i hate to agree with you, they are right. i think they are also worried about their investment. a lot of people take vacation. you have a boyfriend, i know that. you are married. i know that when we take vacations, as a family we coordinate our travel. i don't have a private plane. if i had a private plane, i think my wife and i would be able to coordinate our

departure time so we wouldn't have to have two planes to take us to the sameoltçr destination within a few hours of each other. the obamas go on vacation, everyone dessert evers a vacation. michelle obama -- took one plane, he took another, two motorcades. the rest of the country suffering and the president is on the golf course. i'm thinking there is something wrong with this optic. am i being unfair? >> no. they are saying getting everybody back to work is their priority. being on vacation didn't look good when the congressional budget office says unemployment 8% for the next three years. that's the problem people have with the vacation. he says he has a plan -- >> sean: after labor day. >> why are we waiting? we would like to see it. >> sean: it is going to be specific, an outline? >> fear is he is going to say the same old, same old. >> sean: i'll predict the same old, same old, poll tested,

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>> you never want a serious crisis to go to waste. an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before. >> sean: some democrats won't let the appearance of a crisis go to waste. after a moderate quake rocked the northeast yesterday the ground barely stopped before some used it as an excuse to spend our money on intrastructure. >> infrastructure is also point for the quality of our

lives and competitiveness. what makes it possible is everyone listens. it is the single best job creator we can do. >> sean: the president's trillion dollar stimulus plan was full of infrastructure spending and investment. we know the effect that had on-the-job market. still, when the president's holiday on martha's vineyard comes to an end and he unveils his economic plan sometime this september, there's one word you are likely to hear over and over again, investment and infrastructure. >> the president: now is not the time to not invest in infrastructure. we under investment in education and infrastructure. there is no better time for us to investment in infrastructure than right now. >> sean: joining me with reaction, republican strategist mercedes schlapp. kirsten powers. powers, simple, simple, investment, infrastructure, spend, spend, , right? government spending.

>> not exactly. what he's been talking about, what the expectation is some sort of infrastructure bank. which would be government insuring loans, possibly doing loans themselves. it wouldn't necessarily be giving money out. >> sean: you think -- >> go ahead. >> sean: i would never interrupt you. >> i think it is a good stimulative thing to do. something we need to do any way. we have a gap in our infrastructure. estimated to be 2.2 trillion. we need to do work on things like our airports, roads, bridges. >> sean: what were they doing with all the money we give them now? in new york, they are about to make it $15 to get in on the bridge. $testify seen by 2014. one-way in $17. i'm thinking, -- what do they

do with the six bucks i give them now? at some point mercedes, we have to look at what are they doing with all the money they got? >> one point with infrastructure spending it takes a long time to get it off the ground. what we are dealing with is an economic crisis that is happening now. all president obama knows what to do is spend his way out that is not going to create jobs that is not going to increase the gdp. we have to teal with other serious issue -- we have to deal with other serious issues that can tackle these problems. >> sean: he accused president bush after a years, four trillion in new debt of being unpatriotic. president obama did it in 2 1/2 years, he's now accumulationed four trillion in new debt. do you think president obama is unpatriotic? >> i'm not a big find of call -- i'm not a big tpap of calling people names, --

especially questioning patriotism. i don't like it when either side does it. >> sean: here's the irony in this. this is in eight years, president bush. that's a lot of debt. i would argue republicans paid a price for overspending starting in 2006. those were big issues that alienated their conservative base. here obama does it in 2 1/2 years. i would never question his patriotism. but how come obama gets away with that? how come the democrats get away with calling the tea party terrorists? how come maxine waters gets away with saying the tea party could go straight to hell? i want you to go straight to heaven powers. >> i appreciate that. >> i don't think they get away with that. people are holding them accountable for it. they are not getting away. i don't think either side gets away with it. both sides should stop. >> sean: obama gets away with

it. he lectures on civility after using a lot of comments not defined as civil. >> they go after governor palin, congresswoman michelle bachmann. all these tea party figures. at the end of the day no one says what you are saying is wrong. really, even the constituents stay quiet about it. >> that is not true. >> it is unfortunate that really there has to be this -- this noncivility between the two groups. >> first of all, plenty of people say plenty about it. the sean hannities, rush limbaughs, people who have power influence complain and people on the left condemn it. some institutes condemned things said about michelle bachmann. >> sean: in fairness, at times you have been reasonable. and i say that with great

trepidation. >> i appreciate it. >> sean: i really believe in this. i think you are sincere in not liking the rhetoric. i think you don't think it helps the democratic party. i think you think there is going to be a backlash and i would agree. isn't this a great opportunity for the president to say to max soon waters, stop telling fellow americans to go straight to -- maxine waters, stop telling fellow americans to go to straight to health. and the tea party is not the enemy because they want to balance our budget and live within our constitutional principles. >> he's on vacation i guess. [ talking over each other ] >> the president has quite often said those kinds of things. [ talking over each other ] >> sean: mercedes, go ahead. >> he's the most divisive president. >> oh my gosh.

>> he's constantly attacking the republicans on every issue instead of bringing the parties together. and trying to be a leader for our country. >> sean: it is not in him. he will not take on maxine waters. i don't think he has the courage to take on his outspoken base. i think he has the courage to take on any outspoken liberal in the country, because we've yet to see it. he will lecture us if it is sarah palin, crosshairs in the gabby giffords case, when that was baloney, but he won't do it here. hypocrisy. >> okay sean. >> sean: the congressional black caucus airinging it out with their anger against the president and the tea party movement. michelle malkin addresses that and more, coming up. as luxury s.u.v.s, it helps to have the quality and craftsmanship of your leather interior test better than the lexus rx 350.

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>> sean: the congressional black caucus seems to be going after everyone. not even the anointed one is

safe. black leaders say they are frustrated the president has not done more to help the black community, especially when it comes to job creation. maxine waters interrupted the executive director of the president's council on jobs and competitiveness when he tried to insist the president is focused on helping everyone. >> the president is focused on every community across the country. i think it is clear that everyone in the room understands and across the country stands that certain communities have been hit harder than other communities. >> let me hear you say black. >> sean: let's not forget the recent attacks on the tea party from congresswoman waters and florida congresswoman wilson. >> real enemy is the tea party. >> as far as i'm concerned the tea party can go straight to hell. >> sean: joining me with reaction.

michelle malkin. welcome back. >> thanks for having me back. >> sean: you fit in this category. you are a terrorist. you are the real enemy. not al-qaeda, not terrorists, the real enemy is the tea party. you can go straight to hell. like any conservative tea party member i guess you are a racist as well. >> that's right. and we are not supposed to respond and call the civility police in to question this woman's long history of such demagoguery. guess what? we are not afraid of you either maxine waters. this is an old line of hers. she is not afraid. she is not an tpraeufpd it is time the american people stood up, particularly people in her district who has about ill served by her for 30 years to stand up and asked what have you don't for us lately congresswoman waters? this is a woman who has been not just at the margins of the democrat party but at the center of it for 30 years. she has been a member of the democratic national committee since 1980. she haseked the nomination of

at least four -- she has seconded the nomination of at least four nominees. headed the caucus. yet this vitriol from her is par for the course. she is talking about hell she has been making taxpayers' lives hell for decades. this woman is trying to get the gander up of the black community to distract from her own long ethical problems. remember, we still haven't had that long delayed ethics trial the house ethics committee three years since they started the investigation, into her cronyism of color, with regard to helping this minority-owned bank in l.a. that her husband had a stock investment interest in. and these questions seem to bounce off of her like bullets on teflon. >> sean: what do you make of the criticism -- she is also

going after the administration. she said you give us politicians -- you give us per m, we want go after the president. what do you make of that? >> i think -- i think she is pandering to unemployed, dissatisfied people. again i think it is a distraction technique. then she doesn't have to answer her direct responsibility or involvement in not only expanding the nanny state at the expense of the black middle class. also of selling out her own people. it is these progressives on the left who are always accusing minority conservatives like me, of selling out our people. this is a woman who has joined hands with people who would rather see black americans dependent and collecting food stamps and more unemployment benefits. that's the jobs program of the congressional black caucus

that will be unveiled after labor day by president obama also of joining hands with the open borders alliance. these are people who want to have more amnesty. want to recruit more illegal aliens so they can turn them into democratic voters. they try to pretend it is not a zero sum game and there aren't americans who are losing out on jobs. it is those kind of folks people in south central l.a. who are becoming more aware they are not being well served by their appointed leaders and self-appointed ones in the minority program. >> sean: we played earlier i want to get your reaction. we played a clip of obama in 2008. he's talking about the four trillion that george bush accumulated in eight years as president. he's done this in 2 1/2 years. he used the word credit card and china and responsibility and $30,000 a kid.

then concludes by saying it is unpatriotic. consider this, any other words use against the tea party or any conservatives said about the president that the president is unpatriotic. you questioning -- he did it to george bush. what would the response in this country be now? >> you know what it would be. all the wags at "the new york times" editorial board and the left wing progressives would be up in arms over it. there would be all sorts of apologies and capitulations. that happens a lot they get browbeaten for telling the truth. this man has has wagged his own finger at the right for untoward rhetoric. we've heard a lot of this questioning of conservatives particularly fiscal conservatives, patriotism. joe biden said it is patriotic to pay higher taxes. this is par for the course. you can dig that the archives and find contradictory

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dollars of debt. that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it is unpatriotic. >> sean: reaction? >> 2008, i wish we could have him give the same speech now the a.m. he spent on the last few -- the amount of money he spent in the last few years. there's no end in sight. he keeps spending more money and does not realize simple economics, you need to bring in money to cover what you are spending. we are going in the opposite direction. >> sean: i agree. bush did that in eight years he did it in 2 1/2 years. i'm thinking any republican candidate has a great campaign ad here. >> after all the terrible things that were said about him. he's from mars or indonesia or some place. >> sean: 2 1/2 years he did

what he said is unpatriotic! >> i'm very sorry that he said that. >> sean: you're sorry he said it. i'm glad he said because he's going to come back and chew on those words and eat 'em in 2012. >> neither side should question the others patriotism or motives. >> sean: by definition is he calling himself unpatriotic? >> i don't think he would do that. >> sean: i would never suggest such a thing. >> republicans are blocking all of his initiatives whom he might consider unpatriotic. >> sean: he's been successful. he got it all passed everything he wanted. >> wasn't there a movie years ago called "say anything." when he was in the senate and talked about the deficit and how it was inexcusable andb] they go out and say these things. it is going to evaporate into the universe and that's the end of it.

>> sean: in the name of warner wolf, let's go to the videotape. back from vacation he's going to focus on jobs. he's reset that button 4,000 times. is there anything new that he going to say? >> no. he has failed at this. judith wrote a book a number of years ago called god has 99 names when she interviewed gadhafi. she talked to him, you have been using socialist policies and they failed. what are you going to do now? he said, i have no power. what are we hearing now? he did the american version of this. what is he saying now to everybody. it is bush's fault, this, that. he has no power. and he knows it. >> when it comes to jobs you her the same thing 2 1/2 years, extend payroll tax and employment. being a business owner myself that gives me no incentive to hire somebody. this president unfortunately,

has no knowledge of economics and it is not going to change and we are going to ever the unemployment rate above 9%. >> sean: when did you interview gadhafi? >> many times. >> sean: how many times? >> six or seven. >> sean: when was the last time you interviewed him? >> three years ago. >> sean: he's a good friend of yours? >> i would not say that >> sean: i would have loved to have interviewed somebody as evil as him to see if i could -- >> it is such a tough competition in the middle east sean. >> sean: judith will tell us about the dates she had -- i'm kidding, the interviews -- i'm glad you have a sense of humor. >> loves blondes. >> sean: is that true? >> yes. i'm not blonde. >> sean: okay. there you go. apparently it didn't go well. more with our great american [ male announcer ] to the 5:00 a.m. scholar. the two trains and a bus rider.

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>> sean: we continue with our great american panel. we are kidding judith. had you an inkraebl opportunity. you interviewed gadhafi seven times. >> six or seven, i kind of lost track. >> sean: you have a fascinating insight. i look at him as a nut, lunatic and crazy. what was your insight?

>> he probably was a little crazy. there's a weirdness and eccentricity he cultivated by design. he wanted people not to know what he was going to do next and he succeeded. >> sean: how did he treat you? why did he give you so much access? >> because i showed up throughout the 80s, 90s when few people would go to libya. i always felt it was important to know what these people had to say. it was such an amazing place. libya is like a country frozen in time. it has this gorgeous coastline and magnificent ruins. it would be the best tourist destination in the world. but he ran it first like a socialist paradise. then into the ground. it was so sad. they were such nice people. at long last get a shot at freedom is encouraging. >> sean: i think you are dreaming. you read the ap story today, mustards go, yellow cake uranium. we ought to send joe wilson

over. chemical weapons, we have all these different tribal factions and some al-qaeda islamic extremists, vying for power. who is taking over what is the plan? >> i don't think they have a plan. you know this region better than anybody. i think this goes day-to-day, hour by hour. whoever is the strongest, on top at the moment. >> i think the tnc is an impressive group. what we've heard so far is encouraging. they said they are going to get the oil up and palm -- and pumping within thirty days. look at what they've done in six months. these are people who didn't believe they had the will to fight and they went out there day after day and got killed in a country of only six million people. >> keep in mind, [ unintelligible ] rich in commodities that can

alter the global economy. now you have rebels running this this is going to chain the economy going forward for years however takes control. >> we don't know who is going to take control. it could still go south the pessimism would be right. -- could be right. >> sean: here you have gadhafi loyallists, tnc with the -- they are from benghazi. >> other cities. >> sean: all right benghazi-based. those rebels, gadhafi loyalists, tribes millennium harboring. assassinations long -- there was an article win calling me muslim brotherhood obsessed when people were saying this is great, mubarak is gone. i predicted the brotherhood would take over and i think i will be proven right. >> i think you are right there is going to be a problem. who becomes the new rebels?

once you have a new government, somebody out there is going to say, gee let's overthrow these guys. >> sean: who is in control of these weapons? >> i was there after gadhafi gave up the weapons. i talk to saif islam his son. >> sean: they still have yellow cake uranium. >> lots of places have that. this is the d d d dfefefefefefe. the chemical weapons that everybody is worried about is way, way far from anybody. >> sean: they could build a dirty bomb. mustard gas, chemical weapons. 30,000 surface-to-air missiles. >> this stuff is leaking like crazy. unless these rebels are wearing haz-mat suits the greatest dangers these weapons pose is for people approaching the warehouse. >> sean: you don't think jihaddists will go in and -- >> i think they will be dead. >> sean: they don't care how