>> steve: absolutely! >> dave: if you're in the neighborhood, 48th and 6th. it's all free. come see us. >> steve: you're not the famous dave who puts out the barbecue, are you? >> dave: no, i eat it. >> steve: congratulations -- you got a kid in kindergarten. >> dave: my daughter just started kindergarten for the first time, i'm a very proud dad today. >> steve: join us next week, you'll see brian kilmeade playing golf with the president. >> gretchen: and he did great today. congratulations, brian. there it was. log on for our after the show show. have a fantastic holiday weekend. >> steve: so long. fox news alert, brand new numbers on jobs in america, this as the white house announces a new day for president obama's long awaited speech on getting america back to work, a plan mr. obama admitted this week could make or break his presidency. >> if congress does not act, then i'm going to be going on the road and talking to folks and this next election, you know, very well may end up being a

referendum on whose vision of america is better. bill: the white house announcing late last night that address to congress will happen one week from tonight, september 8th as opposed the previously announced date of september 7th but what he just said is very true among the politicos across america. good morning, everybody, where you are today, i'm bill hemmer. welcome, march that. martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. this one is so -- even the decision over when the president would speak set off a huge battle in washington, everything seems to be coming with a fight these days, so you've got the new jobs this number this morning that shows a real struggle outside washington continues to be just getting a job and getting a paycheck every week in this country. the unemployment number, still above that 400,000 level, that's a critical mark, so that is bad news, and it is down from last week, almost 3 percent. bill: small consolation for the millions looking for

work. stuart varney, fox business network. first the news on the jobs picture is what? >> okay, let me point something out here. over the next 24 hours we're going to get some very firm evidence as to whether or not we are in recession. recession, yes or no, we'll know within 24 hours. now, the news out this morning, literally, from half an hour ago was that 409,000 people registered for unemployment claims last week. that's a very, very high number. any time you're above 400,000, that means you're in crisis level in the jobs picture. and that's where we are, crisis mode. bill: we've been there far too long. worse than that is correct the revision from last week, what do they say now? >> the week -- number last week, they revised up to 420,000, that, again, a very high number, not good. bill: what is your expectation of the white house and its plan? >> i think that generally speaking, the expectation is that president obama will have a very hard time coming

up with a big, bold plan, which is a feasible plan which will get through the republican house of representatives and have a very hard time getting that out there and putting it in place. there is not a lot of confidence that he can turn the jobs picture around in that speech next week. bill we're going to be talking about that in the week it come but i think it's significant what you said in the beginning, we'll know whether or not we're in recession? still a possibility. >> you have the jobless numbers today, in one hour we get numbers on manufacturing, that's very important. it really could show we're in recession. tomorrow at 8:30, the overall jobs picture. clear indicators of recession, yes or no. bill: stuart, you'll be our lead tomorrow morning, okay? we'll see you then. but for now, we'll see you on fbn at 9:20. martha: we've got new numbers in america "america's newsroom", showing president obama's

approval rating falling for an all-time notice, from quinnipiac, 52 percent of americans disapprove of the job the president is doing, 42 percent approve, that is a significant drop from july when his approval rating was five points righter -- higher than that at 47. bill meanwhile, did you hear about this, president obama and john boehner clashing over the timing of the speech on jobs, speaker boehner comes out a bitter a winner, president obama wanted to discussing his plan, but speaker boehner said not so fast, blaming the white house for ignoring, quote, decades if not centuries of protocol. finally, after a threat of a filibuster in the senate the white house scheduled the address a week from today, the house speaker responds, we appreciate the president working with us tonight, and look forward to hearing his new proposal. ain't nothing easy these days, right? what do you think, will president obama's job speech make a difference? head to our website,

foxnews.com/"america's newsroom", vote online while we're here at fox news.com. martha: you could not write this, you could not make this up. he is the former speaker of the house, as you well know and current presidential candidate. in the next hour, newt gingrich joins us, who better to talk about this, the protocol, and we'll get him to weigh in on the hubbub in washington. bill: the water is still there, vermont exceptionally hard hit by the remnants of hurricane irene. that state has been wracked, the government planning to tour the disaster zone by helicopter today, and finally managing to reach the last town cut off by the rising water. meanwhile, the national guard out in force, using helicopters and truck -- trucks to get supplies to the homeowners, of which there are many. martha: indeed. they've got road crews race to go repair the damage from irene, major roads across the state are completely

impassable. the national guard is there, they're using helicopters just to get basic supplies into the people in the small mountain communities there that are so isolated by all of this flooding. residents in the town of pwralgtsborough say this is the worst flooding they have ever, ever experienced. >> you've got to prepare for these things. >> been here over 23 years, never done that. >> you can see the river just rise, didn't take no time at all. mash march the governor who spoke with us yesterday, he is going to tour all of this damage today, get a firsthand look at what needs to be done. bill: he's been a terrific guy to the people in that state from the beginning. in new jersey, president obama signing a disaster declaration for that state, that clears the way for people to begin seeking federal help to recover from irene. it comes amid a growing debate in washington over whether or not hurricane disaster aid should be offset by spending cuts. that did not sit well with the new jersey governor, the republican chris christie.

>> we don't have time to wait for folks in congress to figure out how they want to offset this stuff with other budget cuts. our people are suffering now. and they need support now. and they can all go down there and get back to work and figure out the budget cuts later. but we need the support now here in new jersey. and that's not a republican or a democratic issue. i don't want to hear about the fact that offsetting budget cuts has to come first before new jersey citizens are taken care of. so you want to figure out budget cuts, that's fine, you going to turn it into a fiasco like that debt limit thing where they're fighting for each other, eight, nine weeks and you expect the citizens of my state to wait, they're not going to wait and i'm going to fight for make -- to make sure they don't. bill: folks in new jersey can get help online by registering at disasterassistance.gov, also call kwr*upb kwr upb 621-fema.

martha: it would be great if we had money that was just sort of there for emergencies, and we ran the supblt that way, but that doesn't seem to be the case. so we've got tens of thousands of people in new jersey who still have no power today and they might have to wait until the weekend or even before next week before it is back. take a look at paterson, new jersey, it is just incredible, the images we have, one of the hardest hit places, the city ravaged by this major flooding. president obama plans to visit there over the weekend, get a firsthand look at this himself. our own david lee miller is getting that firsthand look now. it's been days, david lee, since this thing hit and how are things looking where you are? >> reporter: unfortunately the people are going to suffer for days more, but let me start this morning, martha, with good news. authorities say that all the rivers in new jersey are now receding, the water is now receding. that said, just take a look behind me, this is the passaic river. we were here yesterday, and we showed you what the scene was. today, the scene looks very

similar, but upon closer inspection, you can take a look across the river and you can see the water line where it was yesterday, you can see it has dropped what looks like now about 8 inches. and it is continuing to drop another indication that the situation is improving. an informal marker, the for sale sign on this restaurant, you can now see a phone number to the real estate broke her's delight, indication the water level is dropping and there's this bridge connecting one side of pate refpltson to the other over the passaic river. yesterday, water was overflowing this bridge. today, there is an unmarked police car here to prevent people from traveling across this bridge because it is not safe. but clearly, the water level has dropped significantly. but the question is, how much longer is it going to take for all the flood water to finally go away. expectations and hopes are by this weekend, sunday, which is the day, as you mentioned, that president obama comes to paterson to take a look the a the damage

firsthand. martha: we heard what governor christie had to say, he said people there need help and they need it now. are they getting it to any extent so far? >> reporter: they are getting some help. but certainly, not enough. at least in the viewpoint of those who live here. for example, we made a mission of this yesterday, and the situation is not -- has not changed significantly. one of these mid-rise tower, the one closest to where i'm standing, is still without power now. there's a partial evacuation of these towers, because of the flooding, because of problems with electricity. there are still thousands of people who do not have power here. there are significant numbers of people throughout the state who can't go home because of the flooding. they are now in shelters, and while they say, martha, yes, they are very grateful, they also say that they are very frustrated. listen: >> i want to go home. i would like for this to be over, but you can't rush mother nature. you know, that's how it is. but i'm glad that there is somebody here to help us

while we are in need. >> reporter: and martha, just a few moments ago, i talked to the deputy fire chief in paterson and he made an interesting point, he said yes there, are a lot of people who do not have electricity in paterson and that's because of the downed tree limbs but a number of them simply do not have power, he said, because the power company here and the fire department have asked that it be turned off as a safety precaution. there is so much flooding that it could pose a danger if someone goes into a flooded basement and the juice is on. so in a number of instances they are simply disconnecting the electricity, and in large blocks in certain communities. martha. martha: and that's insult to injury at this stage, and all the businesses that are closed in that area, losing money, of course, and folks who can't go to work because of all of this. it's a very tough situation. david lee miller, we thank you very much, from paterson, new jersey. a quick snapshot of what folks in new jersey are dealing with, tens of thousands not allowed to return home, major roadways

in the state are still closed and this flooding is said to be the worst since the great flood of 1903. bill: that is remarkable and historic for all the wrong reasons, huh? busy thursday already, some of the stories we're watching now, you heard about them, but much more ahead, including the president, the speaker -- the president, the speaker of the house, did the president blink? good politics or more to it? we've got a terrific panel on that in moments. martha: should you be allowed to smoke a cigarette in your own car? which state now says huh-uh? no lighting up in your own car, folks. bill: how about that? >> families evacuated by car, boat, whatever they could find, wildfires in two states burning dozens of homes to the ground and the danger is not over yet. >> suddenly, it was like a fire tsunami, just a wall of fire, probably 100 feet tall, came sweeping through. >> i mean, i could literally feel the flames in back of me while i was running. that's how close this was.

and i had never experienced anything like that.

martha: the tour bus driver involved in that horrible deadly crash last march, facing criminal charges today. fifteen people died in that accident, it happened on i95 in new york city heading to connecticut to a casino for a day trip. it was an absolute, absolute tragedy. and lawyers for the survivors claim that the driver fell asleep behind the wheel. bill: now this about-face in the white house where the president's request to address congress has been bumped back by a day, something that rarely happens in american history. first here's the white house press secretary jay carney in the middle of the day yesterday saying this: >> and obviously, one debate of many that's on one channel of many was not enough reason not to have the speech at the time that we decided to have it. bill: so then hours later, carney released this statement, quote, we

consulted with the speaker, john boehner, about that date before the letter was released, but he determined thursday would work better. late last night, they settled on thursday. kirsten powers, brad blakeman, former assistant to george w. bush, man oh man. good morning to both of you by the way, then he said, then he said, then he said. but this is the kind of stuff that drives you up a tree. brad, did somebody give in? was it bad scheduling? >> yeah! bill: as somebody who used to schedule the president, this should have an matter of routine, of respect for the co-equal branches of government, this should have been a matter of logistic, should have never rise tone this and i think the white house made a mistake. did you schedule president bush's events? >> absolutely. bill: how did that work? >> what we did, if we were going to make a joint address to congress and, the assistant to the president, nick callio, legislative

affairs and myself, would offer dates to the speaker of the house and leader of the senate as to what dates the president was thinking about, what are the tiles and logistically, we worked out a time and it was a done, a matter of routine. bill: you do that before you make it public. >> absolutely. absolutely. bill: kirsten, what do you think about this? i read where you think this is like junior high politics. >> yeah. bill: it's what turns people off. >> yeah, it's petty. i mean, when you come right down to it, they knew that they were conflicting with the debate, they knew that it was going to be a problem, they knew it was going to be a fight, and by the way, if you're going to pick a fight, pick a fight you're going to win. there was no way they were going to win this fight because exactly what you were saying, this drives you up a tree, it makes everybody, even people who support the president, think what are you doing? bill: why do you think they did it, then? >> honestly, i can't even begin to get inside of their heads to understand what they're doing. i guess the idea was that they wanted to have a contract, to have the republicans having their debate and having the

president offering up his vision for our economic future, but it was never going to go forward. it was going to be fight. and it was going to be a fight they were going to lose. bill: right, that's a good point, about a fight, because this is what i hear from the left, they're mad at this president because they don't think he fights back, he doesn't punch back when the republicans hit him. >> it's a stupid fight! he's picking up -- he should be picking a fight over something that matters. bill: saying i'm not going to let these guys blast me on wednesday night, i'm going to plant the flag before it happens. is it possible? >> what's ridiculous, pick a fight over the bush tax cuts, pick a fight over something that matters, don't pick a fight over something that really is the equivalent of like a junior high school or like even worse, like a playground fight. you know, it's not -- this is not what people are concerned about. bill: brad, that's a democrat talking there, by the way. >> that's it, good! keep going. keep going. you know what's fundamental to this whole thing? is if the republicans wanted to embarrass the president,

which they don't, they would have attacked the appropriateness of a president coming before congress to make a political speech. the president, after all, is running for reelection. the appropriateness needs to be questioned here. the president using this forum to make a political case to save his own skin from his falling ratings. that's the argument the republicans could be making. that's their argument -- that's the argument republicans aren't making. bill: underscore the point in all this. the topic is issue number one in america. >> right. bill: it's about jobs and the economy and putting people back to work. i gave it a -- i gave you the first bored, -- word, brad, kirsten, i'll give you the last. >> that's the point. he's detracting from the most important thing, which is the message is we need more jobs. i actually think it's totally appropriate for him to give this speech to congress, i think it's the most important thing that we're facing, but why waste a whole day arguing over something, when in the end you're going to lose it. bill: the two of you, back to class, because junior

high is in session for a whole other year! martha: we are awaiting the details of president obama's jobs plan, but that so far isn't helping the numbers we're getting this morning and the bad news in one state. how long some people are waiting just to get into a jobs fair. now, that picture says a lot. bill: sure does. no talking, no texting? now no smoking. where lighting up in your car could cost you big time.

bill: here is a desperate sign of the times out of california now. check this out here. these people in that line had been standing in that line all night. just for the chance to talk to somebody for a job. just for the chance to apply for a job. that's a job fair, set up by the congressional black caucus, and jesse jackson was there, talking about how

urgent the unemployment problem is for so many: >> this is an undeclared state of emergency, if the same attention had been given to hurricane irene victims had been given to victims here, this is a perpetual irene, if you will. we saw irene coming, we tracked it, and -- >> bill: the unemployment rate among african-americans is 21 percent nationally, that's more than double the overall jobless rate of 9.1% martha: all right, how about this? it may seem like smokers have fewer and fewer places where they can actually light up and have a cigarette, but a new law in south carolina could soon make it illegal for parents to smoke in their own vehicles. jonathan serrie is live on that from atlanta. if this passes how would this legislation work? >> reporter: if passed, drivers would be fined $25 if they're caught smoking in a car with a child under the

age of six. now, proponents say their primary goal is education, similar to recent bans on texting while driving, whether or not it's enforced, such laws they say build awareness of just how serious the problem is. if passed, south carolina would join four other states that have already enacted smoking bans in cars with kids. because such laws are relatively new, though, there are no long term studies on whether they've had any impact on smoking or, for that matter, children's health, martha. martha: so of course, this bill has its critics, because many smokers will feel that it's infringing on their freedom. what are their concerns? >> yeah, andit not just smokers. it's also civil libertarians, they worry if law enforcement officers are able to look through the window of your private automobile, to see whether you're smoking, what's going to stop them from eventually peering through your living room window to see if you're smoking around wizards -- kids in your house? fox news senior judicial

analyst judge andrew napolitano says the decision could face legal hurdles because it's essentially a traffic law that has nothing to do with traffic safety. listen: >> at what point will the government stop being the nanny state and realize it's the job of parents so raise children and not the job of police and bureaucrats to replace the parents? >> reporter: democratic state senator brad huddow says the role of government is to protect people who cannot protect themselves, which includes small children. listen to him: >> we're not trying to tell people they can't smoke, they just can't smoke while they're in an enclosed car with their children. >> reporter: now, the bill enjoys bipartisan support in south carolina's gop-controlled legislature, it's already passed in the senate but it faces more resistance within the libertarian leaning house, martha. martha: very interesting debate, jonathan, thank you very much, reporting from atlanta. bill: maybe in our lifetime

this thing is illegal. martha: i think that's where we're going. bill: the way things are moving. republican 2012 candidates gaining ground on president obama. scott rasmussen with the brand new poll numbers just out. you'll hear from him in a couple of minutes. martha: and the toughest antibullying law in the nation goes into effect today as we get ready to start the school year. we're going to talk about that, as a response to the tragic suicide of a college freshman. but does the law create more bureaucracy and give teachers a burden that maybe should be handled at home? we're going to have a very fiery debate on that, coming up. >> this is a very serious matter, someone lost a life because of something that started off as a joke, and i think they deserve a lot more than they're getting.

bill: some brand new poll numbers out now that show a bump for rick perry, scott rasmussen, president of rasmussen reports, these are hot off the wire an hour ago. scott, good morning. >> good morning, bill. i'm bill: i'm going to show viewers what you find, rick perry in a head to head watch nup with president obama, what's going on with perry, scott? >> rick perry has now become the frontrunner so he's doing better than other republican candidates in the polls. a week or so he was down by three points to the president, and what we see, the the leads among women, perry leads among men, the president does well among upper and lower income people, perry does well

among those middle income groups, but when you come right down to all of it, rick perry is now the frontrunner, heading into a month full of debates, expectations going to be very, very high for him as he measures up against the rest of the government p. bill: i think that's a great point. now, what do you see in play with a romney matchup, because barack obama has 43 percent in your survey and mitt romney is at 39 percent. >> you know, again, it's four points in the other direction that romney also is doing better than -- but romney is doing better than he was a week or so ago. this says more about the matchup between romney and perry than anything else. if mitt romney wins the nomination, if he comes back after -- if he comes back his numbers will improve against the president and perry's will decline, but for right now, mitt romney not getting quite as much support, especially from republicans, compared to rick perry. bill: these are interesting observations the one more point here -- one more question, rather. what do you find about how

people feel about president obama today? >> well, president obama, very much in trouble if you're just asking about him, his job approval ratings, in the low 40s, just 29 percent think that he is doing a good job handling the economy, and people are feeling worse about their personal finances today than they did when the president took office. so if it's a referendum on the president, the president loses. he's hoping to make it a referendum on the republican, and that's why it will be a pretty negative campaign between now and 2012. bill: there are brand new rums out -- numbers out. scott rasmussen, delivering the news, we'll see you soon, okay? republican contender newt gingrich is live in "america's newsroom", the former speaker talks about the presidential race, about his plans, and about that latest fight between the and the current speaker john boehner, about that -- between the president and current speaker john boehner >> martha: all right. today, a new, tough

antibling law has taken place in new jersey after an 18-year-old -- antibullying law takes effect. tyeler clemente killed himself after a sex encounter was posted between clemente and a young man. starting today public schools in the garden state will be forced to combat bullying are extra resources in schools, things like a bullying specialist in every school, an extensive counseling session, and followup paperwork for all of these events. now, here's how one administrator has responded to this. quote, i think this has gone well overboard. now we have to police the community, 24 hours a day. where are the people and the resources to do this? and that raises some very interesting questions here as we all head back to school. joined by dan mclaughlin, a former teacher and dr. ron silverman, a child an teen development specialist. welcome this morning. >> good morning. martha: these are some of the things that are now law

in new jersey, you have to have an antibullying supersraoeudzor at each school, a safety team made up of principle -- principals, teachers and students, you have to start an investigation within 24 hours and prove you did that, and you have to report to the state capitol twice a year, detailing in paper documentation every investigation that has happened in your school system. dan, how would you handle this? >> well, i have three issues with this law. the first one is teachers have enough responsibility, they need to teach math and science and all those things. the second problem i have is who's going to determine the definition of bullying? i can see a kinder market ner shoving -- kinder nard ner shoving down his kids, it doesn't make sense, how are they going to monster the -- monitor the social media network when it's off campus? martha: robin, everybody knows a child who's been in this situation and there is nothing that is more

heartbreaking or frustrating in terms of how to make it stop. but my question is, will all of these things that are being put in place now, would they have stopped this situation with tyeler clemente, or would they have stopped some of the other more serious situations that we see in some of these schools? >> laws don't stop bullying from happening. what we need is a movement that gets everybody together, the parents, the community, and the schools, all on the same plane so that we're working together. laws are just a starting point. what we need is everybody to be on the same page, and bring that community piece in, because the schools on their own, the parents on their own, it's not enough. martha: i mean, i can't help but feel that if there's something going on at school, somebody is going to know, either a friend or the teacher or the principal or the parent. >> and you get together, and -- i mean, i'm not underestimating this, but some of these situations are so heartbreaking and so

serious, and it culminates, of course, in the horrific tragedy we saw happen at rutgers university last year, but i wonder if this isn't a lot of cya, if this isn't legal, dan sullivan, when you look at the situation, are schools trying to cover themselves, well, we did this and this, we filled out this paperwork, so don't blame us if something happens. >> well, you have to differentiate between an adult college student and kindergartners. this law makes no sense because you're dealing with adults, what adults do and if you break a law you should be punished but not the cannedder garden kid who gets a rap sheet if he pushes down a kid. people don't have time to take care of this. we're failing in our school systems. we have to get back to basics. this is a parenting issue. i would go along with this only in the way of educating parents. it's the parents' responsibility. the social media is done at home. do we want the school system

in our homes, monitoring e-mails, techs, facebook? no, we don't. martha: you must have confronted a situation like this in your years of teaching. what do you think as a teacher is the most effective way to help that child? >> for one thing, teachers take care of this every day. they have behavior rules on the front of the classroom, and the first thing they do, the first day of school, is go over these points, so when you deal with it individually, that helps out because you're dealing with the parent and the child and these things get solved every day and it's been going on for years and years and years. this new law goes way too far and it exposes what big government wants to do in the public education system. it's take control of the child. and it's the parents' responsibility. martha: some parents are bullies and it's no surprise that some of their kids turn out to be bullies, but what do you think is the most effective way, how can we stop the problem?

>> i mean, unfortunately, kids cannot learn in an environment when they feel like they're being attacked. martha: of course. >> and it's not going to work for them. so to say that we need to just concentrate on the reading and writing part, or even to say that -- introducing these rules in the beginning of school is enough, it needs to be a constant revisiting of what needs to create that climate that's respectful, and that community piece needs to come in. i have a community that is bringing me in to the martoni system, someone is funding it and i'm going to be at the randolph school talking about bullying, so you need other people involved. martha: we'll see how this works. it's a lot added to the job of being a teacher and we hope it's effective. robyn, dan, good to get your input as well, thank you sir. bill: a growing issue that needs attention. checking the markets, a lot of news in the economy, the weekly jobs number is out, retail sales number,

and we're also waiting on that manufacturing number about 20 minutes from now. how is wall street reacting in late august? it's kind of treading water out there, isn't it, up about six points. martha: up six. bill: barely moving now. we'll watch it throughout the morning and let you know which way we go today. martha: and there's a new call for hospitals to be shut down in england. could that controversial idea become a reality here at home? bill: also, absolute chaos erupting on the football field. have you seen that? the call that set this all off. >> absolutely disgusting. i have never seen anything like that. i think, a, the coach should be disqualified all together, the team shoulds sus -- should be suspended for the whole year. it's not good sportsmanship.

martha: well, it was a really bad day on this job site, four construction workers were seriously hurt in a concrete pouring accident. it happened in oakland, a roof collapsed and the workers fell three stories into the concrete and were trapped in it. they are in critical

condition right now. the cause of that collapse is under investigation. bill the map who used to run england's health care system has a controversial proposal and it's out now. he argues there are too many hospitals in england, and some of them should be shut down. dr. marc siegl is professor of medicine at the nyu and member of the fox news medical a team, good morning to stkpwhraou morning bill. bill: we're looking at this issue because we want to know whether or not it's an issue for us either today or at some point. now, the growing issue is the elderly population, england is growing older, we're growing older with our baby boomers, his suggestion is to close hospitals, have the nurses take over the care of patients and not the doctors, and more care of the elderly from home. now, why is he suggesting this? >> well, he's suggesting this, a controversial figure, he's suggesting this because back when he was in power in 2000-2006 in england, he was responsible for ramping up this health

care spending and increasing the number of hospitals. now he's saying we spend so much money, what do we do and the headline for us in america is look what happens when big government is running health care. at one point, they say increase the hospitals, then they say get rid of the hospitals. this is what americans are afraid of, that we're going to have situation where our health care is changing under our feet, the opposite of what president obama said. bill you think hospitals are the solutions, not the problems. >> the hospitals cost money. what is the solution? >> i think hospitals are the engines that drive the health care system. i think they can change with the changing times and i think they are. my own hospital is very interested in reaching out right now to outpatient, in other words, hospitals themselves are becoming more virtual hospitals, he's right, lord crist, that we have many elder will in the community that need outreach but who's going to provide it if not the hospitals? people always think who's my doctor and who's my hospital. so if the hospital extends its outpatient services they can reach out to the early. bill: i imagine there is resistance and great

resistance because health care is such a big deal everywhere. where does the resistance come from? can he be successful with this. >> i think he's going to be successful in great britain. bill: they're going to save money. >> but look at the difference between great britain and the united states. what we're really good at here, acute care, where patients get really sick, they have to get to the hospital, they need ems services like during the hurricane, when there's a catastrophe. that's what we're great at. if we move in this direction, we're going to sacrifice that. remember when people were getting sick in canada, we reported on the news, a couple of celebrities couldn't get to the hospital, there wasn't the kind of services they need to be helicoptered in? we could have that problem here. bill: in the big picture, with the health care law now being initiated in different aspects of the country and in different ways and fully implemented in 2014, what does this mean for our big picture, for health care in america? >> well, bill, i think hospitals are in trouble here.

i think they're worried about their bottom line. i think they're worried they're not going to get enough reimbursements from medicare and medicaid and i think a lot of them are going to start to close. bill: you do? >> i do. i think statements like this, again, it's across the ocean but if it starts to occur here it's going to be even more of a problem. our hospitals can save our health care system. they should not be closed, they should not be cut down on. they should be actually expanded, and i'm worried about a statement like this, because if we start to see this from our own increasing bureaucracy, we would have a problem. bill: it would change the way people get care. >> we need a government sensitive to the health care needs to the people, not that superimposes mandates. bill: thank you, dr. marc siegl, looking into the future. martha, what's next. martha: president obama now has more focus than ever on his big speech on jobs in this country, and that's thanks to a very public spat between he and john boehner over which night he would present that plan to the public. a lot of folks shaking their heads over this one this

morning. we're going to talk about that with former house speaker newt gingrich. he has something he'd like to share about this whole thing, he's here live in minutes. bill: a man dig necessary his garden and comes up with a whole lot of lettuce. his surprise find. >> i went over, picked it up, took it to the picnic table, opened it up, said well, it's a bunch of money, looked at my dad and said now we're really in trouble!

bill: got some breaking news on a crime story, in san diego, california autopsy results will be given out tomorrow on the mysterious death of rebecca daho, found dead headaching naked and bound from an outdoor balkan --o balcony at her boyfriend's mansion in san diego, at the same time her boyfriend was apparently at the hospital taking care of his dying son.

they both died that week, some reports suggest that she committed suicide, but nothing confirmed yet. the final results tomorrow out of san diego. martha: all right, let's get to this now, where court papers are shedding new light on the once-secret rendition flights following the 9/11 attacks. this is a fascinating story and peter doocy is digging into it. what are we learning about the previously classified flights, pete stpher >> reporter: what's interesting is the way we found about it. it's not the way you'd expect to hear about scores of $4900 an hour flights ordered by the cia used to render at least 100 capture terror suspects to other countries. we know about the flights now, martha, because of a business dispute in upstate new york. here's what happened. the cia hired a contractor in virginia, dyncorp to organize ten seat flights for the government, the flights had to have a 9-hour range and they did not have to have passenger manifests so dyncorp hired sports

flight, which is basically run by one guy on long island who brokers private air fares, they got a praepb prosecute -- plen from richmore, managing a plane for the other than of the red sox, they let the cia use mr. morris use the plane for rendition flights but the contractors thought they were hired by the state department. they did not know they were not working to the state department until now because when rich moore sued for breach of contract the 1700 pages of documents were gone through and this is the kind of stuff we're now learning, and apparently, nobody from the government has shown any real interest in this case according to the lawyers involved, at least not yet. martha: very interesting. so what else are they finding when they dig through these pages and these documents? >> they're finding some phone records that interestingly show the air to ground phone on these planes kept calling the cia headquarters, as well as an unnamed cia official who worked on the rendition

program. it's interesting, these phony state department authorizations, martha, allowed for the planes to deviate from their flight plans whenever they wanted. martha: wow, fascinating. like an intriguing movie. peter, thank you very much. peter doocy in washington. >> thank you. bill: so martha? >> bill: yes bill? >> bill: you know money doesn't grow on tree, but apparently in chicago it grows in your broccoli. a man decides to pick broccoli from his back yard garden and finds a bag filled with $150,000. what to do? here's what he did. >> i made drink to calm down, you know? i haven't worked in two years almost, it's like i could really use this money. >> did you think for a minute i could keep this and nobody would ever know? >> well, i thought that, but then who's coming to get it? somebody is going to come back when you leave that much money in your back yard so i didn't want nothing to do with it. my luck, it would be bank robbery andite get caught for robbing a bank!

bill: did not think about that theory. wayne handed the money over to henry i think there's more to this story. martha: i think there's probably more to that story, because you know, if you've been out to the garden lately, you don't get anything and sud beenly, there's a big bag of cash in the middle of the garden. bill: great broccoli, though! man was that good! martha: we'll hopefully learn more and get back to you on that. mother nature has been wreaking havoc in so many ways in this country and now you've got these wildfires raging, dozens of homes burned to the ground and residents are being evacuated now. i'm going to talk to the governor of oklahoma on that, just three minutes away. and boy oh boy, are there nasty comments flying back and forth about the tea party, and now you've got calls for one lawmaker to resign. the explosive comments and charges of racism, and the fight that they sparked. >> all they have left, greta, is name calling.

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some of these places? today will be a pivotal day on the front lines, the towering flames moving to flatter ground which might, might, make it easier to contain. >> all of these days, over 100 degrees, and low humidity and zero rain. we are set up for the perfect thing and we happened to be in the way. >> it's not farfetched to say we burnt half of our county off, acreage-wise and it is devastating, of course and it will take a while to get over. this is a resort area. up here. and, they are rebuilding. already underway. they will carry on, i assure you. martha: what a tough month it has been, right? now you have hundreds of people evacuated from this area. and, three firefighters in oklahoma suffered severe burns as the flames engulfed several homes they were working on. we are very pleased to be joined by the governor of oklahoma. governor, welcome. >> caller: thank you. martha: tell us what you are

going through in your state. >> caller: it has been a very tough week, in fact a very tough summer because we have been in a tremendous drought, high temperatures, high humidity, not enough rain, and we certainly have had a -- our share of wildfires, especially, this week. it has just been a tough, tough week. we have had almost 3,000 acres that have been burned. we have lost over 30 homes, and lots of structures and lots of cars and firefighters have been working day and night, and the last two days, we have had a major fire in northeast oklahoma county and northeast oklahoma city an even other areas of the state. martha: we're looking at unbelievable pictures, right now, governor of these flames as they get closer to a whole other group of homes. >> caller: that is a nice neighborhood and they have been up all night, watching the smoldering embers that are out there and we're going to have a busy day today. martha: frightening, and do you feel like you have the resources and the help that you need there, right now?

>> caller: one thing i want to brag about is, oklahoma is very, very good at helping during times of disaster, and, we have had so many fire departments, first responders, law enforcement officers, national guard, the forestry department, office of emergency management have done a tremendous job of collaborating and working together, and i think in oklahoma city, we had around 30 different fire departments, from all across the state, that came last night, to help us, with the major fire that was threatening some of our populated housing areas in northeast oklahoma city and we have done a super job and i just am great if for our firefighters here. martha: you know, how... what happens next? you know, the fire is moving into the plains area, and maybe that will help a little bit. is there anything weather related that looks like it might be giving you a hand in this situation over the next 24 hours? >> caller: not in the next 24 hours. it looks like it will be sunday until we get relief, and the temperatures are going to be dropping down, in the high 80s,

which will be a big help, for us. but, the wind is bloepg right now and we h -- blowing right now and we had gusts up to 33 miles per hour and the heat was up to 105° yesterday and so it is very, very dry and we'll have to keepers veering and tkee kekee keep persevering and, the fire departments will try and run the graters and there were areas the fires were burning and sparking up red cedar trees and wooded areas and that was our biggest challenge, yesterday. it was just like kindling out there. martha: well, you know what? it is evident from everything you are saying and from these amazing pictures, that we are seeing, that folks in the state of oklahoma and texas, as well, of course are working so hard to get this under control, and i'm sure they are wiped out and at the end of it and we are thinking about them and hope that you have everything you need, governor, thank you so much for being with us today. good luck to you. >> caller: thank you very much and keep us in your prayers.

martha: we sure will. bill: she's in charge, right? this is part of an epic drought, gripping the plains, oklahoma has been under a state of emergency since the 20th of july. because of the searing heat and bone-dry conditions and the texas forest service declaring it to be the worst fire season in state history and so far, at least half of the 40 worst fires ever in texas occurred this year, 2011, a year to forget and we are working on a report live from the scene in northern texas and we'll bring it to you as soon as we get it here in "america's newsroom." martha: and we have high winds threatening to kick up wildfires that are burning across montana, as well. fire crews outside of laurel, bracing for gusts of wind up to 35 miles per hour, we are hearing. in the western part of that state. and, you have hundreds of fair fighters who are beating back the blaze just miles from a residential area in missoula, and there is no relief in the forecast as the governor told us now in oklahoma, same situation here. hot and dry conditions predicted for the next week. what is going on? we have got torrential rains,

one part of the country and just tough, tough drought, dry conditions. bill: say good-bye to this summer, right? an explosion rocking new mexico, when a construction crew hit a natural gas line. this is what it looked like from the sky over bloomfield. that fire forced people in the neighborhood to get out of their homes and they smelled the gas and took the fire department and utility crews several hours to contain that blaze. they are all headed home now, no injuries, that is the good news. martha: back to texas for a moment, to a really bad wildfire burning there. and get a look at -- getting pictures from ground there? we have adrian... on the ground there. let's join? and hear. hi, adrian? there you are. what is going on? >> reporter: good morning. well, what you got going on now, the texas forest service is meeting to talk about what happened here, overnight and early this morning. and, try to strategize how to move forward and battle the fire

today. it is simply too dangerous for folks to enter the area now, that is why there is a blockade behind me but we saw dozens of firefighters make their way in, past the blockade this morning and some of them bringing heavy construction equipment and their main focus, throughout morning, has been to protect the remaining homes here that are being threatened by the wildfire. and, the latest numbers we have, 39 homes, destroyed. you have 400 other homes, being threatened, right now, 6200 acres, chewed up by the wildfire and it is 30% contained. [no audio]. martha: unfortunately his shot was breaking up there a little. but another look at the dire situation on the ground. all these people losing their homes, school is about to get started. and it is just a tough situation for so many folks and we'll keep an eye on that and bring you the latest as we get more information on the wildfires. bill: 7 minutes past the hour now, and days after hurricane irene, president obama clearing the way for federal disaster aid in the state of new jersey.

many residents there told to get out, and forced out, frankly, after scenes like these, desperately waiting to go home and try and clean up what is left. thousands of homes and businesses still without power. evacuees are huddling in shelters with kids and pets an wondering when they'll be able to go back home. >> it is hard with all the mass of people together, no privacy and you have to watch your things, you know, it is a little scary. >> we have adequate amenities, necessities. not a luxury. >> i want to go home. i would like this to be over but you can't rush mother nature, that is how it is. but, i'm glad that there is somebody here, to help us, while we are in need. >> you never know. it could be you. not long too, i gave $10 to haiti, you know? not thinking that i would need it! and i do. and we do. bill: that is so true, huh? rings a bell, huh? residents can apply for aid on-line or by falling fema.

the number on your screen, 1-800-621-fema. martha: wise woman there, good points and a beautiful family and she's just one of the people in new jersey who are suffering right now. let's go over to morris county, new jersey and interstate 287, the rockaway river, we are told, is now receding. but, just a couple of days ago, the water ran very close and actually broke down part of 287, the highway in that area and i drove by it the other day and water was going crazy, rushing over the sides of the river and, several miles of the interstate were closed after a northbound lane headed into new york collapsed. that is what it looked like earlier in the week, highways buckling under the weight of all the water. that is what is going on, a huge problem throughout the northeast and the situation, there, northern new jersey and, improving a little bit, hang in there, folks, every day it is getting better and better. bill: need sunshine, right. martha: you bet. bill: new this morning from iraq, forces are ready to leave the country by the end of the

year but this week a homicide attack killed 28 people at a shiite mosque in baghdad. and the question remains can iraqi security forces prevent these attacks? jennifer griffin, live at the pentagon, good morning there. august certainly marked a milestone in the conflict, did it not? >> reporter: it was an amazing milestone, the first month since the beginning of the iraq war when no u.s. military service members were killed. so, that is a milestone. u.s. commanders are saying it is because the iraqi security forces are finally pushing back, fighting back against shiite-trained, iranian trained shiite militias and no u.s. forces have been killed, but there have been as you mentioned, bill, dramatic, high-profile attacks like the one on the mosque where 28 people were killed and one of those killed in the mosque attack was a parliament member. there are very, very serious signs that al qaeda in iraq and the shiite groups are gearing up

for a bit of a civil war. bill: where do negotiations stand now for u.s. forces at the end of the year, jennifer? >> reporter: right now, it looks like they are on track to leave, even though the u.s. military and the u.s. government would like to leave some behind, to continue with training. but, if you listen to prime minister nouriel al-maliki, he gave an interview this week and he says that u.s. forces will be out by the end of the year, that no u.s. bases will be set up. we heard from a commander, u.s. commander in northern iraq, here's what he said: >> i had served here a couple of years before and you know, as we reflect on things, this is arguably the most important chapter and everything that the u.s. has done and is doing in iraq from 2003 to present. martha: this transition is very significant but, again, there seems to be tension between the iraqi government and the u.s. government about whether u.s. troops will be allowed to stay

past december. bill: it will be ongoing. good to have you on it, jefferson griffin at the pentagon. martha: president obama and john boehner tackling over the "when" issue with president obama's long-awaited speech on the dire jobs situation in the country and, who will weigh in on that? the former house speaker, newt gingrich has something he wants to say about all of that. bill: and he's trailing rick perry at the moment, the race for the republican nomination but, today, mitt romney might have a new strategy, and targeting a very specific crowd. also... martha: they've been a driving force in american politics. ever since president obama took office, and, now, another leading member of the congressional black caucus may have crossed a line in challenging the tea party, just a few days after congresswoman maxine waters said this: >> they don't want me to say this word but i will say it any way, the tea party...

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bill: another aftershock rocking central virginia today. 3.4 magnitude quake. right about 5:00 in the morning and more cracks were found in the washington monument. that damage likelied off by last week's quake, and hurricane irene that followed. water was found inside the monument's stairwell in the objection vacation area. the monument for the moment, is closed in washington. martha? martha: thanks, bill. he's the only republican member of the congressional black caucus. but now congressman allen west is threatening to quit. he says the cbc is putting out, quote, racially motivated

rhetoric and here is the latest example of what congressman west is reacting to. read this very closely, along... >>... change in congress... martha: incredible, isn't it? let's bring in the tea party activist and a fox news contributor. welcome. >> thank you.

martha: so, basically, this congressman is saying that there are other congressmen in congress, right now, who would like to see people lynched. that is exactly what he said. >> this andre carson, i call him a clown. you know, this guy is one of the head people in the congressional black caucus. he is inciting racial tension in our country. this is very irresponsible. instead of debating and talking about the failures of the progressives and their policies, he is going around in his little puppet road show in the black communities and these little meetings, complaining and spewing this racial rhetoric which is very irresponsible. he's trying to rip up these individuals and, you know, this is all in an effort to get black voters to get out and vote. this is what this is about. this is racial politics and it is wrong. martha: you know, you think back to nancy pelosi's saying the tea party movement was astroturf and

wasn't anything real and clearly, with this very strong reaction, and racist reaction is what alan west is calling it as well, there is a huge element here that this is a force to be reckoned with and the backlash is very evident. let's look at another piece of sound here to put it together, so you can get a sense of where it is all going. >> the tea party... [inaudible]. [applause]. >> there is no compromising with them. they have one thought in mind and that is make president obama a one-term president. >> as far as i'm concerned the tea party can go straight to hell. martha: what will happen here? you know, andre carson, alan west is saying he needs to be removed from his position at the congressional black caucus and what is the reaction to that. >> he needs to step down and be held accountable for his words.

listen, i'm all for freedom of speech. but, where is the proof? where is your proof that there is racism going on? how come he won't even come on the network television and defend his comments? because he is a coward and i'm calling him out on his actions and his words, because he's being very irresponsible. unemployment in the black community is over -- well over 16% among black teens, over 40, washington, d.c. is over 50% and we already have the flash mobs that are taking place. these words, these actions from the individuals will incite racial tension. and, you know, i'll telling you... martha: what is the response, you know, by other members of the congressional black caucus? are people also outraged about what he has said? and, you know, will there be any pressure on him from the democratic party? or from the republican party? anybody that could have the power to say, you know, you can't say things like that and get away from it. >> there is pressure from the american people and the congressional black caucus will not pressure him, they are silent on this as well and need

to be held accountable as well, but, listen, he needs to step down, this is very irresponsible and is the last action, and comments that people like this should be making, especially when they are a leader. he's inciting racial tension. you go into the black community and say things like this and the black individuals will think this politician will not lie to me, he's my representative and i trust him. martha: do you think alan west should stay in the cbc, is he more effective if he stays in. >> i know he's trying to work from within and i can only imagine what he's going through. we have to wait and see what happens. martha: thanks, appreciate you coming in. bill: in a moment we'll get the latest on the scuffle, back-and-forth between president obama and speaker boehner. what really went on behind the scenes and who better to tell us than the former speaker himself, newt gingrich, live here in a matter of minutes. martha: plus the biggest danger to our astronauts and what nasa can do about it.

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martha: all right, everybody, 25 minutes past the hour and we have good news for retailers this morning. how about that! the stores are reporting solid revenue gains for august. thank you, everybody for getting out there and shopping and there is this, mexico, schools are shut down in acapulco. 600 teachers refused to show up in their classrooms. after they received threats from violent drug gangs. bad, bad situation, as they try to head back to school and south korea and the u.s. holding joint military exercises today, just north of seoul. the u.s. unveiling several new

tanks and other new military weapons, they are working on training on. that's a look at your headlines. bill? bill: martha, is there a new threat in space? reports there are thousands of pieces of scrap metal and other junk that could destroy the space station and their communication here on earth. editor-in-chief for "discover" magazine is with me now, the graphic is an artist's rendition of all the space junk flying around out there. how big is the problem. >> it is a serious problem, serious enough that nasa and the european space agency are investing real money to take care of it. the problem is, there are now a half million pieces of young up there, things larger than about half an inch across. and they are moving at 17,000 miles an hour, and, that is ten times the speed of a bullet and it doesn't take something very big, if a piece of shrapnel and a fragment of an old rocket

somebody launched, if it hits a satellite or the space station or spacecraft with an astronaut in it... bill: a simple screw or screw diver or bolt at 17,000 miles an hour is more than a ding is what you are saying. >> right. and the real fear is a thing called -- called a kessler syndrome, the idea that at some point, you have so much junk up there, the young hits other junk and creates more junk and you get a runaway chain reaction at which point, everything up in that lower earth orbit starts to be at risk of space junk and that is a real danger. the chain reaction. bill: and the other day you had a scare in the space station with a soyuz capsule and a threat debris might hit the station and here's what nasa is working on, an idea for a space radar tracking system and the europeans are working on a spray that would put a protective foam around different rockets.

and the italians want to develop something with robot arms to help deorbit the biggest pieces of debris. which of those three is a good need, cory? >> the robots grabbing debris is probably the hardest one. you have to track them and grab them and the easiest thing to do is redesign the current rockets and salts to make less junk. mother nature, naturally clears the stuff away, over a period of time. anything active, you are trying to go and clean up trash, you have to remember there's a lot of space up there and that is not an easy thing to do. bill: thanks for coming in today, okay? it is a danger every day and we'll see whether or not it is a threat every day in the future, thanks. martha: the quote of the day. there's a lot of space out there. there's a heck of a lot of space out there, folks! polls show mitt romney losing a little bit of steam against rick perry in some of these numbers, but, today the former governor of massachusetts may have a new strategy, folks. who he is targeting in search of

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martha: this is the big talker of the morning, folks, press changing the date of his address to a joint session of congress. gop candidate michelle bachmann weighed in on the whole thing, this is what he said.

>> does this show maybe a little insecurity on the part of the president? either, a, he wants to distract the american people so they don't watch him or, b, he he doesn't want the american people to hear what the next president of the united states is going to say about the president's jobs plan. martha: that was her take on it. coming up former speaker of the house and gop presidential candidate newt grinning ric newt gingrich joins us. bill: the sleepy days of late summer and you get that yesterday. one of the leading presidential candidates shifting his platforms in search of more conservative reports. mitt romney jumping into several conservative and tea party events he initially was going to pass over. it's part after new strategy in a power struggle with rick perry. here is romney with a veiled

shot a rick perry. >> career politicians got us into this mess and they simply don't know how to get us out. bill: for the record rick perry has been governor going back to 2000, that is ten, 11 years. steve, good morning to you. how do you assess the changing strategy on behalf of romney. >> i think it was inevitable and smart. i think it's exactly what he needs to do. he has been running what is in effect a general election campaign focusing exclusively on president obama leaving the fighting in the republican side of things to his rivals taking shots at one another, for a while it was tim pawlenty and michelle bachmann. mitt romney needs to engage. this is what the mood of the conservative movement is right now. people want to see a potential

republican nominee who is pugnacious and is willing to take on barack obama which all the republican candidates are and trade shots with people in his own party and about a battle of ideas. bill: when michelle bachmann made a little bit of a rain didn't react then, but he is reacting with pair remember. >> i think there is an electable problem that michelle bachmann has that rick perry doesn't have. if you look at the state-by-state polls rick perry is beating or even with barack obama in places where people might not have expected him to be. that's one of the reasons that the mitt romney team sees him for as a threat. bill: he's going to be at a tea party event on sunday in new hampshire. how is the tea party group either embracing him or not. >> there is a split. we have some people in the tea party who say we know mitt

romney, he's too moderate, and others say, let him come n if he wants to give a peach and say things that we would find attractive in a candidate, by all means do it. bill: the best chance might be the detaeuts coming up. that is head-to-head, that's serve and valley, serve and return. viewers will get a chance to see these guys one-on-one. >> i think it will be absolutely fascinating. you have three debates in september culminating in the one that fox is doing september 22nd in orlando. these are going to be bruising, tough affairs. i expect we will see a lot of clarification on various issues. right now it's still relatively early and you have republican candidates saying in some ways basically the same things. i think you're going to start to see policy distinctions then, by the end of this month that we're not seeing today on the first day of the month. bill: to that point then, do you see one being more aggressive than the other? >> well, that will be interesting. i mean i think rick perry has

been aggressive. it's sort of in his nature to be aggressive. if you look at the ways he's run his campaigns, both general elections against democrats and like with kay bailey hutchinson this time around. he has been aggressive. mitt romney has hr-pb less aggressive. we saw him be somewhat aggressive with john mccain but not as aggressive as his advisers thought he should have been. bill: if that's the expectation then, if mitt romney is agrees euf he might be ale to impress a lot of people. we shall see. steven, thank you. steven haze, weekly standard in washington. martha: former president george w. bush hitting the golf course today. he kicked off the fifth patriot golf day weekend at the dallas national golf club. it's part of a fantastic organization. it's a national fundraising program called folds of honor foundation and they have raised

nearly $9 million for families of military service members. we may see a swing from the former president. and they help members of families who have those who are injured in action. here is what president bush said to us a little while ago. >> i'm not going back in the limelight. we have plenty capable people debating the issues. i'm going to spend a lot of my life honoring the vets and reminding america that we are a blessed nation to have people li likeed and dan to serve. our vets need the very best care they can get. i want to continue to remind people what a blessed nation we are. martha: what a great cause. it has created more than 2,00 2,000 scholarships for the children.

ed pace talked about what a great contribution they made to his family. he was injured inee jack. bill: they teed off at 8:30. the question is whether the president is still talking to him at this point. big stories coming up. millions of dollars that organization has raised. outstanding work. tempers tphreurg on the gridiron off a controversial call, watch here. while the biggest tackle in this game came with a felony charge tacked on. bill on. martha: pedestrians and john boehner clark over the date on a long awaited speech on jobs. newt gingrich last something to say about all that and we will join him in just a moment from now. >> we have divided government. we negotiated with bill clinton. we passed the first tax cut in 16 years, the largest capital gains tax cut in history, unemployment dropped to 4.2%,

how would the country feel today at 4.2% unemployment?

bill: have a look at new amateur video of a youth football fight in florida. it is viral online. you can see coaches rushing a referee off screen to the right. a player flies out of the group and level the ref. then came more punching and kicking and it went on from there. some parents say they are just fed up. >> i have never seen anything like that. a, the coach should be disqualified from coaching all together. the team should be suspended for the whole year. it's not good sportsmanship anything. bill: we'll see whether or not he gets his wish. police in sarasota are looking over this tape, expect to file felony assault charges. the referee suffered only minor injuries. he took a hit. martha: let's get back to this the hottest story of the day, the white house says basically in the end, all right, we'll move the jobs speech to

thursday. we'll do it on thursday instead, that came after just a surprising amount of wrangling yesterday afternoon with house speaker john boehner. the white house says that they asked to address a joint session of congress next wednesday. speaker john boehner said the white house ignored decades if not centuries of protocol in how all of these things are handled. after filibuster threats in the senate president obama came forward and released the statement they would move the speech by one day, they said yes they will do it on thursday evening which happens to be the opener for the nfl. some folks think that may be problematic for audiences, we'll see. we are joined by newt gingrich, former speaker of the house and a candidate for president. >> as a green bay van i hope the speech is scheduled for very early in the evening or they decide to put it at noon on thursday. i'm afraid except for commercial breaks i won't see most of the president's speech. martha: i'm sure there are

others who share your sentiment who are looking forward to thursday night as well. we hope that take that into account. what did you make of all this back and forth yesterday? >> you know, there is something sad about a president this ineffective. he sent out a email last night to his supporters that i got a copy of, entitled, frustrated. and he explained how frustrated he was. and i thought there are 14 million unemployed americans, there are another 11 million either unemployed or dropped out of the workforce. i wish he would reach beyond himself and feel how frustrated 25 million americans are with this lack of leadership and effectiveness -fl just take the simple thing of calling a special session, this isn't hard work. one of his staff could have called, one of the speaker's staff, barry jackson who has worked in the white house and has been his chief of staff could have explained to both sides, having been in the white house, that under the house rules you have to have a

concurrent resolution of the house and senate. they don't even come in until 6:00 wednesday night. it was physically impossible, it was a silly request. and yet, not only is the president not consulting with boehner and mcconnell on policy he's not even consulting on the simplest kind of procedures. martha: how could that happen? what is going on? if that is really what happened, that they didn't have their act together enough to go through the process correct lease, it's either that or made the decision to just not do that process and sort of said, look we are going to do this year and you're going to get in line and go along witness. which do you think it really was? >> i think there are some people who think of the president as a king ship and a monarch in order and they forget that the very purpose of the american revolution, the whole reason we have a constitution, the reason that the legislative branch is listed first, not the executive branch, is that in fact the founding fathers wanted us to have a president, and a president is part of a

constitutional system. and i think that this particular president finds it very difficult to work with others. i think he was fine when he had speaker pelosi and when senator reid had a huge majority, he could order things, they could ram through owe pwh-pl a care and the stimulus. speaker pelosi says you have to pass it to know what is in it. now he's in a different world. martha: i think you're saying arrogances is involved in this is what you're saying. >> i think it's incompetent. he's been president for 3 # years, you think he'd learn. martha: you put forward your plan before you announced your presidential intentions for what you think should be done in jobs. what do you expect we'll hear? now there is even more focus than ever on this speech. now it's a joint session of congress to talk about jobs, something that he's talk about a great deal already in the past. what do you think he's going to say? >> this is a very big risk for the president. and i think it's a bad sign that he has not consulted with speaker boehner and republican

leader mcconnell in developing the speech. if he were coming to congress to give a genuinely bi-partisan speech that might be interesting. what i could say, people can go to my website newt.org they'll see all the proposal we've listed which is a very bold, aggressive proposal. when you've been stuck at over 9% unemployment the easiest thing for the american people to check off is big enough or not big enough. the president should come in with a proposal big enough to start getting unemployment back down to 4% where it was when i left office as speaker. the current projections of 8, 9% unphroeupld through 2014 should be absolutely unacceptable to american people. we are better than this. we do better than this. we can kraoe indicate american jobs and energy. there is so much we can do if the president was willing to use common-sense that we could turn this economy around in six months t a year. martha: we'll see. maybe the fact that he's signaling this joint session means that he wants to do

something that is big enough. a lot of people don't think that is the case, but we'll see what he says. talk to me very quickly about your intentions in terms of running for president. you're very low in the polls right now. what do you plan to do to make up that gap and how do you think the dynamics are going to change for you? >> we don't pick any delegates until january. by january i think i'll be very, very competitive. i'm looking forward to going to senator minute and congressman's king in khrup columbia on labor day. i'm looking forward to the reagan debate next week. i want to talk about what we can do now, to create jobs now. it's not just what do you do in january 2013, it's how do you get americans back to work now. martha: the president himself says he knows what this election will come down to in the end. newt gingrich, always good to see you. thank you very much for being here. bill: september will be an interesting month for so many reasons too when you think about these debates and what is

upcoming. we've got our own coming up too. you'll be able to see speaker gingrich and the other republican contenders in the next fox news debate. we are teaming up with google to host it on september 22nd, orlando, florida. you can submit questions for the candidates and for the first time you'll be able to vote on which questions you want the contenders to answer. it's going to be great. go to foxnews.com, scroll down to the spotlight section, click on the gop presidential debate that takes you to a story with more details about the debate. the republican debate hosted by fox news and google, september 22nd only here on the fox news channel. check it out. martha: that is the first official announcement of that collaboration and that debate on september 22nd. it will be very exciting. we'll look forward to that. how about this are we looking forward to this? we're watching another hurricane, folks. it is called katia gaining some steam the meteorologists tell

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tomatoes, 40,000 semidrunk thrill seekers. how about that combination? put them together, that is a whole lot of tow mate so sauce folks. east coast of spain, this is what we should be doing today. an annual festival. tomatoes hurled by tourists and citizens alike. this event dates back to 1945. you can probably just throw some pasta into the sewer and toss it all up and eat dinners. bill: it's like our floor crew. kidding. irene is gone but say hello to katia.

tracking a brand-new hurricane threatening to follow irene's path. wouldn't that be something? she is out there but she is not staying out there. meteorologist janice dean is tracking it. she's getting stronger is she? >> reporter: yeah, we just got the new advisory. at this point still a hurricane, minimal category one moving west at 18 miles an hour. we are still like a thousand miles away from the northern leeward islands, many days to catch katia and see what she does. we do expect this to become a major hurricane into the weekend and into early next week. again there is san juan puerto rico, north of that region, we'll have to wait and see as to what katia will do. more importantly we are watching the gulf of mexico. a low pressure system south of new orleans. a lot of convex involved with that east of the low. these are what the computer models are doing, it looks like my two and a half-year-old skaobg a crayon and went [yelling] stph-fpl we could have a tropical storm that brings

most needed moisture to texas. bill: i don't know how you figure out anything based on those predictions. >> reporter: look at that i don't think i've ever seen anything like that. bill: you have one in 20 chances. martha: it definitely will not go straight up through the middle. it will go that way or the other way. >> reporter: doesn't it look like they just went like this? bill:fully around in a circle. martha: a van go. >> reporter: bayh. martha: it was the shot of a lifetime. we introduced you to an 11-year-old hockey player a few weeks ago, made this shot. in she goes. does he get the big price, the 50 grand? [cheering] it turns out the boy didn't pull the ticket and no cash in the end. 11-year-old nate smith and his family. they did end up giving a donation to the hockey a

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