the governor starts now. >> tonight on "huckabee" 1 in 1 hundred hub children in america is born with autism. overcoming the challenges of raising a child with autism. and uncovering their capability. >> we so underestimate what these people understapbt.

>> i will a little napoleon syndrome. >> the biggest loser jillian michaels is big on motivation. >> if you don't believe in your ability to achieve a goal, you're not going to. >> song writer paul williams with the story behind some of his classics. good evening from little rock, arkansas, this labor day weekend. have you missed this breaking news from libya and hurricane irene preempted our show for a couple of weeks, but we are so glad to be back with you and we appreciate your patience. believe me, we miss not bringing our show to you every week. of course this is a holiday weekend. while we hope that you enjoy all the never seen before segments tonight, i hope you'll also enjoy time off with your friends and family so you can observe what labor day represents. with some of the highest

unemployment rates in our lifetime, they continue to linger. it's not lost on most of us that one of god's great gifts is a job, a job that not only puts food on our table and clothes on our back, but a job that gives us the dignity of work. it was once said the greatest reward from work isn't what we get from it but it's what we've become because of it. i've held a job to support myself since the age of 14. hard work is what made it possible for me to have a college education, raise a family, enjoy and own a home and even be able to enjoy things that i never dreamed were possible. and the worst days of my own life, those were the days when i have lost a job and wasn't sure how i would possibly feed my family and pay my bills. that's a fear that's unfortunately known by almost 16 million americans right now. so if you have a job, get on your knees and thank god for the good feeling of being tired from it. if you don't have a job,

you have my prayers that our economy is soon going to turn around and that you'll find meaningful work. labor is not our burden. labor is our blessing. and i do hope that what you do brings you some joy. that's my view, and i welcome yours. you can contact me at mikehuckabee.com and share your thoughts on the fox news feedback link. israel is one of our closest friends around the world. but what would be the consequence if our long time relationship with israel were to change? i recently asked prime minister binge minimum netanyahu -- prime minister netanyahu in an exclusive interview. >> all countries need alliances. we have a very strong one here. sort of think what you'd have to do in the middle east when you don't have israel. and in parts of the middle east, you don't have an

israel and you have to, you've deployed your own troops and spent a lot of blood and treasure. so we -- all countries need alliances. the united states need alliances, but a small country like israel definitely needs alliances. so i don't want to in any way minimize the importance of this partnership. i think it's mutually important, certainly important for us. american support is tremendously appreciated here. this is one country where you give american support and the people are absolutely grateful. you know, they value this. they prize this. they prize the friendship with america. i don't think not only in the defense of being grateful, being appreciative of help that is given. that's clear. but in a deeper sense this is an identification with america. and in many ways i often say america starts here. >> i'm not sure that there's another prime minister in the world who

has a better understanding of the united states. you even have a significant part of education in the u.s., graduated from high school there in pennsylvania. looking over the course of time -- proeup i did the whole -- >> i did the whole thing. i did the s.a.t.'s. >> it turned out pretty well for you? what is the biggest change you have observed, because you've seen it firsthand unlike so many other world leader who have seen it from a distance. but you have actually lived it and seen it. is there something about the united states that you've seen dramatically different over the years? >> there are changes. the united states is a dynamic country. it is a land of immigration which is probably one of its greatest strengths. it's attracted very, very talented people, people of enterprise, people who wanted freedom. and there's a spirit, the spirit of enterprise and

the spirit of achievement which i think marks the united states and still does. it has great problems. the east is rising, but i wouldn't write off america. there are these two great centers -- the united states on one side and of course asia on the other side. and i really don't worry about the world in that sense. i think people write the united states off, and they're wrong. i think this is a great civilization. and i think china is coming up along with india and other countries, and these are great civilizations too. they will honor the rules of competition, economic competition, political competition. it will be a changed world but it will be not necessarily an unsafe one. i'm not sure it will be

less unsafe than it was in the cold war. we don't have to have nostalgia for the cold war. that was no bipolar world. i'm not worried about that. but i worry that between east and west there is this radical growth of militant islam that honors no rules, that is willing to kill people with happy abandon, just bomb people, bomb the innocent. and even do so with complete disregard for the survival of their own people. i haven't seen many soviet suicide bombers. the soviet union had its problem. i was no fan of the soviet union. but i don't remember soviet suicide bombers. when the soviets had to choose between their

ideology, between their survival, they always chose their survival. they were clear on that score. you can't be sure with militant islam. to me, the greatest danger facing the world is not this change in the world, not the changes within america, not the changes in asia. i think the world is generally moving in a better direction -- greater freedom, greater enterprise, greater information. but in between east and west something of great danger is developing. and if militant islam gets nuclear weapons or nuclear weapons get a militant islamic regime -- the first is called iran and the second is called pakistan -- then i think we will all be in great peril. i think this is the great challenge of our time. i'm confident that if we maintain our partnership that we'll overcome this challenge as we've overcome other challenges.

>> mr. prime minister, thank you very much. i hope you can always count on the united states and its people for the support of israel. >> i very much appreciate that. and more importantly, every person in israel appreciates that. all the time. >> thank you. it's been an honor. >> one in every 110 children born in america is diagnosed with autism. the figures are stunning. yet this is so much about autism that we just don't know. coming up chuck holson and his daughter share the story of emily's son and what they discovered is something that every family something that every family needs to hear. [ female announcer ] to get a professional cleaning system you could spend as much as $200. olay says challenge that with an instrument that cleanses

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raising a child with autism presents some real challenges not just for the parents but for the siblings, the grandparents, even the friend's. emily colson's max was diagnosed with it at the age of 4. emily pioneered a system to help max and authored a book called "dancing with max." emily and her father, former special counsel to president nixon, chuck colson. thank you for being here. emily, first of all, max was diagnosed at age 4. how did you know something was different or unique about max or did you suspect it even before the age? >> i could tell from the beginning he cried all the time and he didn't hit any of those marks we look for with kid. he didn't crawl when he should have. he didn't walk when he should have. he didn't make any gurgling and coulding sounds so --

and coo sound so it was clear something was wrong. >> everybody hopes their child is going to be this perfect child and have a storybook life. it wasn't a st-rry book life was it? >>. no. i became a single mom when max was 18 months old. on the heels of divorce max was diagnosed. i thought everything was going to go along pefbgtly and it was a pretty dramatic shift. >> chuck, this was news not only tough for emily but tough for you and your wife patty when you found out max was an autistic child. what reaction did you have? >> i knew nothing about it at all. i was devastated because every parent wants the first for their children

especially their baby girl. this was tough for all of us. i learned to marvel at her being able to handle it. she was able to do anything for max. i saw agape love. in one sense while it was a challenge for the family, it was a joy to see how her faith grew and how she persevered to help one child. then of course the wonderful story of what's happened to her life since. out of the tough times, often as you and i both know come the best things. >> i want to go back 20 years ago. was there a time at which you were angry with god, yourself and the world and said this isn't fair? >> when max was about nine and the autism was so severe that we could barely leave the house, we were hostages. that was my toughest time. i would come down stairs every night, put max in bed hoping he would sleep maybe an hour or two hours.

and i'd sit in this rocking chair and stare at the wall. i wanted everything to stop. i wanted to stop feeling. and it was actually at that point that it all turned around, that i made a decision that i couldn't live my life that way. i didn't know how we'd survive another week like that. and i made this decision that i would wake up in the morning and say this is my last day alive. and then i would believe it. and i did. the first day i did it, i was scared to death. i woke up and said this is my last day alive. what would i do with it? would i care if my son has a tantrum out? would you care about the stares from other people? or would i give my son the best day he could ever have? so we went out and we failed. we went out and we failed. failures and all, we just keep going back. the wonderful story about max and our church -- and it's so important to me because there are all these families that are home on sunday morning, and i don't think our churches realize

how significant the problem is, because we're not able to cross the threshold to get there to say we need help. i started to bring max back to church a few years ago -- we had been five years at home. i thought there was one thing he loved about church when he was young. he loved it to be over. we went back when it was over. >> it's not just autistic children who feel that way. [laughter] >> so we went back at the end of church. we called it backward church. a man came up to max and asked him to help stack chairs. so max started helping out. and at the end of the service, he came back to max and put his hand on his shoulder and said max we could use you on the grunt crew. that's the team that cleans up the church afterwards. he was so proud to be asked. it just took that one invitation. and for six years we went to backwards church, and max became a central part

of our church. then this past fall something wonderful happened, because max got a little braveer and he crept into the church at the end. i was so proud of him and i'm leaning over him saying, max, great job being in church. well, the lights came up, the music ended and max shot out of his chair and started shaking hands with everybody saying good job sitting, great job being in church. and i thought now that is a greeter. so max is now the first person people meet when they come into our church. and i think that says -- [applause] >> -- all are welcome. >> -- remember something that happened to us when we were two years. max came. we're going to see how this came there.

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>> tell me about this idea that you had, that you could use pictures to communicate with max but also to give max a voice that he never had before. >> it's wonderful because god gave me this gift of art before i ever had max. so when i realized that max learned visually, i began to draw pictures for him. he was about nine, and those were our real tough days. i started to translate the world into pictures for him so he could understand cause and effect. he could understand sequencing of events. and very quickly max began to dictate what he wanted me to draw. he became the art director. and he started to tell me about his memories and his fears and things that were bottled up. and once he saw his words land on the page and become tangible and concrete, his

language just poured out. >> this is a time when apparently he was very afraid of refrigerators. most of us kind of like the refrigerator. we go there often. it's our favorite place of the house. max wasn't all that fond of refrigerators. >> the interesting thing is now he is obsessed with refrigerators. but back then, 2001, he asked me to draw -- he asked me to draw him walking past the refrigerator. >> read the captions for us. >> he dictated. so max and mom went to c.v.s. in marshfield. max saw the refrigerators. he tells me it made the sound of christmas bells. then he tells me it sounded like christmas bells because the bottles were jiggling. actually i helped him with that. i told him that. then he asked me to draw this. max walked past the refrigerator. he would never do that. he couldn't even walk in a

store at that point. max and mom passed a little refrigerator on the way out. we were all done with c.v.s., and everybody's happy in the end. now he looked at these over and over, this drawing, and he conquered his fear of refrigerators by looking at these drawings. >> by being able to see visually the experience that he had resolved the experience and then could move on? >> it gave max a voice, which is so powerful. >> i wanted to read this one which has to do with the blue car. follow us through this now. when max was two years old. >> this was a turning point for us because this was one of the early picture talks. we hadn't really figured out the power behind these. max is sitting in the bath tub and he starts telling me that he wants pictures of jo ann's blue sports car. i didn't know what he was talking about.

but as he began to tell me a little bit more and i grabbed the paper, i realized that he's almost ten when he's telling me this, i realized it was a baby sitter that took him out when he was just two years old. when max was two, he had no language. he was like a human super ball. you wouldn't even think he could hear you. but he remembered in perfect detail the baby sitter that took him out. she wasn't supposed to. >> read for us the captions. we'll watch on the screen. >> when he was two years old a baby sitter named jo ann came to play with max if mom had a meeting. one day jo ann put max in her blue sports car with no seat belt. i started to draw the seat belt. he said no. jo ann drove to her blue house in the town. then jo ann drove back to our house. then mom came home and jo ann left to go back to her house. max was safe. >> what's remarkable about this, and you talk about it in the book dancing with

max, this happened when he was two years old. eight years later you draw the picture and then you actually find the house by a g.p.s. unit; right? >> max, the human g.p.s. >> it is stunning to see the intelligence in max. >> we underestimate what these people understand. about four years ago max said he wanted to drive past jo ann's house. and i asked do you know how to get there? yes, he did, so he told me go left, go right, go down this street. we came up to a blue house. i didn't doubt him except that later on, about a month later i was going through some papers and old addresses and there was jo ann's address exactly as max had told me. >> i want to make sure i understand this. he had not been to that house since he was two years old? eight years later he does the story and four years after that he comes along and he is able to guide you right directly to her house

from yours not having been there since he was two years old? >> no. >> these people are unusually gifted, governor. they have a memory -- they can't wipe anything off the memory. that is a curse and a blessing. if you can help them get it out, help them understand what's going on inside of them, you're giving a voice to the voiceless. that is what emily has done. >> it's obvious the picture therapy has been revolutionary not just for max but for other children who have been able to discover it. how has this changed chuck colson? >> i'm a type a person always in a rush to have to save the world. max was the only -- is the first person who has come along who stops me cold. he's not interested in my theological knowledge and not interested in all the things i spend my time teaching. you've got to get on the floor on hands and knees and deal with life on his

terms. that changed my understanding of people who are hurting and in need. i have come to appreciate a totally different kind of love that i'm used to. max gives love unconditionally. you feel his love immediately. when you pay some attention to him, it's just a joy. but you have to stop and get out of your world and into his world. and that for me has been a life-changing lesson. he's humbled me a lot. it's been good for me. it's been great for me. i'm so proud, of course, of what emily has done and how max is being used by god. >> it is a magnificent story and not a story to bring you down. it is a story to heuft you up but also to tell you that child who is autistic is a remarkable child, a gift of god and he is filled with incredible abilities and knowledge that come out in different ways. and that's a story that i think is so powerful. you share it in such a magnificent way. emily, thank you very much for being here.

[applause] >> i love you. >> i love you. >> thank you very much. i know that we've been preempted for several weeks because of some breaking news, but you might remember that wonderful group of students we had from joplin, missouri, all of whose homes were destroyed in the tornado there. that weekend we placed for auction on e-bay a guitar personally auto graphed and pledged all the money from the guitar as well as from the sales from the wanna play c.d. would help joplin. over $12,000 was raised that night for joplin music students. we want to thank you for helping kids who want to play. like the song says, don't know much about history, but you know the children in america aren't getting the basics on some of the most important period in our country's history? when we come back, how your children can learn our history.

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>> the national hirn center downgraded tropical storm lee to a topical depression. it is moving east northeast at 7 miles per hour with maximum sustained winds at 35 miles an hour. the downgrade means all tropical storm watches and warnings have been discontinued. it will lead across mississippi everynight and into monday. lee dumped nearly a foot of rain over mississippi and louisiana. national weather service confirming a tornado touchdown earlier this evening in upstate new york. this is video of the tornado crossing over the new york state thruway in am ster and dam 30 miles west of albany. wind gusts tossed over 60 piles p miles per hour. i am marianne rafferty. now back to "huckabee." harris k

to huckabee. [applause] >> mike: according to a recent nationwide test. american opportunity soos are less proficient in history tn any other school. for example. the major of fourth graders don't know why abraham lincoln was an important figure in american history. another survey in oklahoma said 75 percent of the high schools can't name the first president of the united states. i have been a part of the project learn our history. and joining me is the ceo. >> thank you. >> mike: i indicate that i am a part of this. i was so taken by what you wanted to do. i got involved with this and never intended to be controversial and we'll talk about that in a moment. it fascinates me. you were a successful business guys and doing hedge fund stuff and decided, i am going

to do things with kids and history. why? what was the motivation? >> guest: it started with my parents. my family and i would go on long car ride and our mom and dad would regale us with incredible story of american history. ordinary people doing extraordinary thingings. george washington and abraham lincoln and world war ii. and i came to be a patriot. it bothers me that the sense was patirotism doesn't exist for your young people. i wanted create something for them to give them the chance having the experience back in the car. i realized that it had to be fun. >> mike: all of those statistics. it is scary. >> guest: they are not engaged. we got together animators and

brilliant historians and invented a story of kids that made a time machine and went back to learn about what makes meshing a great place. >> mike: we have one from the world war ii area. >> the british why is he shaking hands with hitler. i thought hitler hated anyone who is not yerman. what deal did he make in exchage for peace. >> chamberlane promised to not expand the version. >> so chamberlane is going to let hitler take long that is not belonging to him. >> he is giving the bully what he wants. >> for me, not an effective strategy. >> guest: governor that illustrates what we are on trying to do. help kids realize that history is relevant to the present. standing up to hitler is same

as standing up to terrorist and bullies and kids can make that same parallel. >> mike: there was a lot of controversy. one of them on 9/11 and i don't know how you tell the american story. kids weren't around then and it ended up controversial because people said you were trying to cash in and make a profit off 9/11. were you surprised by that criticism? >> chris: i don't think anymore asked michael moore when he made hundreds of millionns on farenheit 9/11. the time traveling kids go back and see what happened in 9/11. but why were we attacked and hated. time travelers go to afghanistan and meet with a young muslim girl who explains how terrible al-qaida and taliban. women have no rights and they can't go to school and no religion or democracy and we

compared that to what happened here on 9/11 and the aftermath. >> mike: one of the things i love about the series and the reason i am involved. i think ies to need to be naamerica is a great place. and i want to say thanks to brad and his parents, for instilling a love for america and america's great history. go to history minute comand learn about more information. learn about more information. ♪ [ oswald ] there's a lot of discussion going on about the development of natural gas, whether it can be done safely and responsiblbl at exxonmobil we know the answer is yes. when we design any well, the groundwater's protected by multiple layers of steel and cement. most wells are over a mile and a half deep so there's a tremendous amount of protective rock between the fracking operation and the groundwater. natural gas is critical to our future. at exxonmobil we recognize the challenges and how important it is to do this right.

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you >> she motivates people to lose weight and get healthy. and losing it. she's also written a brand new book and how to build an exceptional life. please welcome jillian michaels. >> >> guest: thank you. >> mike: thanks for coming back. >> guest: thanks for having me back. >> mike: you keep doing stuff. you have a new project and television show and how do you find the energy for it. wow, i feel like i should plug something here. i think i am just passionate about what i do and i love what i do. and so when you find mean nothing your work you can't

wait to do more television. michael you are petight in size but they are scared to death of you. you have them on the ground groveling. >> guest: it is my personality. i have a napol own syndrome and i am 5-2 and i don't appreciate it i have a bone to pick with god. i carry a big stick. >> mike: the book is called unlimited. you have done health books and all about fitness. and this is bigger than that. and this is motivating life. what do we need to know. tell me something i don't know and my audience ought to know. >> guest: i breakk it down in three sections and i will try to give you a key point. first one is obviously identifying your passion. if you don't know where you are going how will you get

there? people say i don't know what it is that i want to do and not sure what i love. be present and listening to your feelings and see how you respond and let it be the compass and your guide. and cultivate your self-esteem and self-worth. if you don't believe in your ability to achieve the goal, you are not going to. >> mike: you think we ought to give very kid a trophy. everyone is a winner. not everyone did that well. >> that is a diplomatic way of doing that. if i make an a i did good . if they make an f. i will not study hard. it is about being constructive with your criticism and there is a technique called specific

practice and listen. you have to see there is nothing wrong with that. and if you want to get an a. it is things that are proved . let's work on that and keep it positive. >> mike: tell me about one person whose life you touched. >> guest: there was a contestant named abby and she lost her enfire family in a car accident. we all have things that are personal nightmares. and working with this contestant to help her bring meaning to tragedy and transmutt it in a depth and wid dom that she can touch

millions of people through the biggest loser was one of the relationships that i was most proud of it and moved me the most. >> mike: the bock is unlimited. and if you are feeling down on yourself. who better to yell at you than jillia michaels. she's talking to you in a very, very encouraging and it is always a joy to see her and great to have you back. stay with us. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. [applause] [ whispering ] ok, here's your room key, the crib is already there. great. thank you so much. [ male announcer ] we provide great service, so you can stay you. holiday inn express. stay you. [ tv announcer ] today's trivia question -- what's the hardest play in baseball? the unassisted triple play. the unassisted triple play. [ male announcer ] stay smart and book smart.

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and welcome hall of famer paul williams. >> guest: it is a pleasure. it is a great pleasure. >> mike: the body of your work extends that we could never cover it all. you are do ask cap. >> guest: i am the chairman of the board of ascap. it is hundred years worth of great songs. while we are talking there is a little lady writing on a electric key board with head sets and so she doesn't wake the baby. she deserves to make a viable living with her living. there is three levels of payment. first level is that moment when you learn about yourself. it is like free therapy and you play it for a young lady and you go wow. she likes me have i gone from

weird to wonderful. what is going on? and the second level of payment is where you put food on the table and buy gas and get your kids to school. we are trying to make sure people can make a living and american music. and third level of payment and the one we talked about later. is heart payment. when someone walked up to you. thren years ago, i played this at my wedding, can i do that? that's what i told paul. >> mike: we got married and the son that played was written by paul williams and recorded by the carenter. ♪ it went like this. ♪ we've only just begun. ♪ to live.

♪ white lace and. ♪ a kiss for luck and we are on our. ♪ we've only just begun. >> it doesn't hurt to have your song sung by karen carpenter. >> mike: that is still a great song in 2011. people are still singing it at their weddings. roger nickels wrote it and i wrote the lyrics and had the romantic beginning of a bank commercial. >> mike: that was a bank commercial. >> guest: american ingen yutity. >> mike: and only one you did. three dog night. >> guest: remember this one. ♪ you have to trust the lord and i wrote it for the car penders

and they hated it okay, my mom used to say. the lord will slam the door to get you another. carpenters wish you had done it. note just old fashioned love song. ♪ playing on the radio. >> mike: three dog night. sneet and wrapped around the muc is the song of someone promising they will never go. ♪ i will never go. ♪ it slowwly rambles. ♪ no need to bring it back. they really never gone. ♪ just an old fashioned love song. >> mike: we have to do one more. i don't think we can close it without one that is recorded by many people. but the person for whom it took off was not even a human. and being, i am talking about kermit the frog.

whose big hit was a song of such hope and optimism and in a world today when we see congress fighting and not able to agree on what day it is. we can use the rain bow condition. >> guest: orrin match and i have written songs together. he talks about his great friendship with ted kennedy and they were sitting in the congress and just yell at each other and ted kennedy would go to orrin. how did i do? there was an essence was that and you boil it all down it is love and service. i am the luckiest man in the world and gratitude fuels my life. i am a grateful man. and 21 years sober. >> me: wonderful. >> guest: yes. >> mike: congratulations. >> guest: and i am open about that. this is written with kenny arber for the nicest guy in

the show business. there is a line in it that i think fits nicely on the show. ♪ why are there so many songs about rainbows and what is on the other side. ♪ ♪ will rainbows are visions, but only illusions. ♪ and rainbows have nothing to hide. ♪ well, so e woof been told upon and some choose to believe it. note but i know they are wrong, wait and see. ♪ and some day we will find it. ♪ the rain boy connection. ♪ the lovers, the dreamers and me.

♪ well, who said that every wish would be heard and answered. ♪ if wished on the morning star. my favorite line. ♪ somebody thought of that. ♪ somebody believed it. ♪ look what it's done so far. ♪ and what's so amazing that keeps us star gazing. ♪ and what do you think we might see? got to keep looking. ♪ because some day we will find it. ♪ the rainbow connection. ♪ the lovers, the the dreamers and me ...

♪ on both sides of the aisle. [applause] >> mike: that is wonderful, paul. thank you. >> guest: my pleasure >> mike: an honor to have you here paul wimiasms. next week marks 10 years on 9-111. they are holding a tribute concert for american heroes featuring an international tenor karl skully. go to since you went away.org. [ female announcer ] instantly smooth wrinkles with a shot? wait a second... with olay challenge that. new regenerist wrinkle revolution... relaxes the look of wrinkles instantly, and the look of deep wrinkles in 14 days. ready, set, smooth...

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