day. president obama in detroit set to preview thursday's highly-anticipated jobs creation speech. we could also get the president's first reaction to the disappointing august jobs report released just three days ago. welcome to "america live" on a labor day, everyone, i'm megyn kelly. good to be with you. as we await the presidential remarks near detroit's renaissance center, the white house is confirming that the president will preview several themes of his big jobs plan. in other words, we're getting the thursday remarks on monday a little bit. but today we will have to wait for thursday for the actual specifics line by line, so maybe an overview. what exactly can we expect? and once the president reveals his plan, will he get support from republicans, democrats and the american people? ed henry, our chief white house correspondent, is live in detroit with the president today. ed? [cheers and applause] >> reporter: you're right, the president is going to preview that big speech today. we're in a parking lot at the gm

headquarters. aretha franklin is playing behind me, but the president wants to talk about jobs. what his aides say he'll do here is challenge democrats and republicans on capitol hill to get behind his new economic plan. as you suggested, the new details we have so far suggest this is not necessarily a completely new plan the president's been talking about extending the payroll tax cuts, for example. that's been around. talking about more infrastructure spending. he's tried that before, so we're still waiting for him to lay out much more specific details thursday to see if there really is anything new. here in michigan, obviously, it's been very hard hit in large part because of the auto industry. the white house, clearly, picked the gm headquarters to talk a little bit about the auto bailouts which they believe saved thousands of jobs. and the unemployment rate in this state has dropped. two summers ago it was over 14%. now it's 10.9%. but, obviously, still far worse than the national average, still very dangerous politically for a president who's facing re-election.

i should note as well that some of the union officials, the labor crowd, the president also trying to rev up his political operation heading into 2012. the teamster president, jimmy hoffa jr., was speaking a couple moments ago and saying we'll remember in november who's with the working people. he was chiding republicans, specifically named the tea party, and then his language got a lot stronger, and pardon my language as i repeat it. he said of the tea party and republicans, quote, let's take these sons of bitches out. it got some cheers here from the crowd in detroit. megyn: i just want to make sure we understand, who exactly said that and it was, basically, in connection with opening remarks to the president? >> reporter: this is jimmy hoffa jr., the teamsters' president. he spoke maybe five or ten minutes ago warming up before the president. the president arrived in detroit already but was not here on site when jimmy hoffa jr. made those comments. nonetheless, he's part of the official program here trying to

fire up the crowd. pretty tough rhetoric, obviously. megyn: speaking about the tea party, the quote was. >> reporter: well, the sentence before that was he was talking about republicans and the tea party and saying that, he said something like we'll remember in november who's with working people. but then specifically said, quote, let's take these sons of bitches out. megyn: ed henry, thank you, sir. we'll see if the president addresses that. obviously, there was a call on his part a few months ago in the wake of the gabrielle giffords shooting in tucson, arizona, for more civility and to tone down the rhetoric, and people like sarah palin got in trouble for putting crosshairs on a map. we've heard several comments along these lines as of late, and we'll see. this man is the opening act for the president. is that appropriate language? will the president speak to it? does it have anything to do with the debate? you tell me, kelly@foxnews.com. well, the message is jobs, but will the president be able to sell it?

we'll ask former george w. bush labor secretary about her opinion on america's jobs crisis and and what she thinks could get america working again. and in just a few minutes we'll have the president's remarks live in detroit. we will also have herman cain here live to react to what the president says in detroit today. well, we are also waiting for labor day remarks from several republican candidates for president. rick perry was in myrtle beach, south carolina, earlier before cutting his trip short due to wildfires in his state. addressing a group of supporters by railing against the president's approach to job creation. >> if this president wants to have a jobs speech this week, let me tell you what he needs to do. he needs to stand up and say we're going to repeal obamacare -- [cheers and applause] we're going to, we're going to, we're going to repeal dodd-frank, and we're going to stop the epa from going forward with any of the, um, regulations

they've got. and i'm going to send a message to the national labor relations board to leave south carolina alone. [cheers and applause] leave boeing alone. megyn: mitt romney in manchester, new hampshire, blasting the president's employment background. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i don't happen to think barack obama's a bad guy. i just don't think he has a clue. [laughter] i, and having never worked in the private sector, never having had a real job it's not a surprise he doesn't know how to create a real job. megyn: in be minutes we will touch base with carl cameron who's live in south carolina where the republican presidential candidates are preparing for a major forum. again, next hour we're going to be joined by herman cain, presidential candidate, former ceo and founder of godfather's pizza, and we will ask him about the president's jobs remarks and his strategy and also about these tea party comments from jimmy hoffa jr. well, the crisis looming

over america's postal service is getting worse today, and it's got nothing to do with rain, sleet or snow. the service is more than $9 billion in the red, and there aren't too many places to cut corners at this point. with a major congressional hearing on the crisis set for tomorrow, the fate of your local mail service is anyone's guess. steve centanni live in our washington bureau with the very latest. steve, it's something you kind of take for granted that the snail mail's going to be there, you know, no matter what the weather or the financial conditions. >> reporter: yeah, but things are changing, and the post office says it's facing a serious immediate shortfall. a spokesman telling fox news this morning the organization needs immediate help from congress to solve this looming financial crisis. on the post office web site, this statement: today, despite unprecedented costs and staffing reductions over the past decade, the postal service is facing the equivalency of chapter 11 bankruptcy and the need to reorganize. while our business remains vital to the u.s. economy, we will be insolvent within the next month.

the post office will default on a $5.5 billion payment later this month if it doesn't get congressional help. the big problem, of course, increasing costs, mostly labor costs, in the face of declining mail volume. most people are using the internet, of course, for mail these days. so will the post office be able to survive at all? here's the postmaster general from earlier this summer. >> we do feel that we are still very relevant to the american public and the american economy, but we also have to make some pretty tough choices as we work through some of the football issue -- financial issues that we face. >> reporter: a spokesman telling me the post office would like to cut 220,000 jobs by 2015, but right now there are iron-clad union contracts that prohibit layoffs, and the postal union is not happy with the idea of changing that. its president says this is a clear attempt to abrogate our contract and destroy postal collective bargaining. cutting postal -- we might find

out tomorrow when postal problems with the subject of a senate hearing here on capitol hill. megyn? megyn: steve centanni, thank you. >> reporter: you bet. megyn: we also have a fox extreme weather aletter, severe threats of major flooding along the gulf coast as tropical storm lee begins to move inland. lee making a huge mess down in louisiana. the water damage already pretty staggering. torrential rain, more than a foot high in some spots. some homes are almost entirely underwater. folks are now trying to take it all in. >> you can look here now, it's all flooded. like, you've got people walking in it and boats and everything back here. >> i don't know. i've never seen water come up that high. people are wading through. it's up to their knees. >> just overwhelming. a lot of water. >> feels like katrina again but not just as bad. it's kind of scary, it's a shock. megyn: casey steegal live in new

orleans. how's the big easy holding up? >> reporter: hey, megyn, good to see you. no major issues to really report here in the crescent city despite receiving more than a foot of rain over the last couple of days. the real areas that folks are concerned about and where they're primarily seeing midwest of the flood -- most of the flooding is, of course, the lower-lying areas like some of the parishes, jefferson, for example. about five miles southwest of where i'm standing now where water has covered some of the roadways. but we understand this water that you see is starting to recede a little bit because the rain is letting up. then about 40 miles knot of that -- north of that location on the other side of lake pontchartrain looking more like a swamp today with all the floodwaters creeping in there. but as i was just saying, the good news: the rain's supposed to taper off as we go throughout the day as lee continues to push inland. the other silver lining, no real economic impact here in the big

easy. on a typical labor day weekend, about 250,000 people converge on the city, and apparently, lee has not scared their dollars away. listen. >> economic impact of a weekend like this can run north of $150 to $200 million, so we saw a relatively good amount of business this weekend. we don't have the exact numbers yet. that'll come in time, but i think if you look around, the city was very busy. >> reporter: now, of course, now the concern is in the northeast. as we said, lee moves inland, and areas that are already saturated from last week's hurricane irene, that is the real concern. folks are going to be paying close attention in that part of the country. megyn: casey, thank you. we are just moments away now from the president's labor day remarks on america's jobs crisis. it will be the first time that we expect he has talked about that awful august jobs report. zero jobs added to the economy

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megyn: fox news alert, president obama selling a new jobs creation plan to america this labor day. his speech just moments from now in detroit being called a preview to the remarks he will

make on thursday in which the president will lay out specifics for getting millions of unemployed americans back to work. the president making his remarks today in a state struggling with an unemployment rate that is higher than the national average. it was 10.9% in july. the unemployment rate in detroit a staggering 24.4% in the same month. elaine chao, former secretary of labor under president bush and a fox news contributor. thank you so much for being here, madam, it's a pleasure to see you again. i want to get your reaction to what we're hearing about the likely plan. president obama's been under pressure from the left to go big, more stimulus. maxine water calling for a trillion in stimulus now. paul krugman of "the new york times" coming out today and saying we need more. the problem is consumers don't have the money in their pockets, and we need to get it in there so that they'll spend. the right seems to be saying, that's insanity. what say you? is. >> well, you know, the last two

years have been kind of like a demonstration project for america, and we have already seen that deficit spending by the government does not work. i think what the president needs to do with this speech is to reassure the private sector that they are not the enemy. the regulation that is flowing out of washington is like an avalanche, it's like a tsunami. the regulations are strangling businesses. and on top of that there's this constant talk about more government spending spending an, threats of tax increases. that is more than enough to discourage small businesses and private sector employers to hold back on hiring because, number one, they don't know what's going to happen in the future, number two, they're face with the the prospect of responsible new taxes, new government mandates, and they're going to be very, very concerned about what the future holds, and they're going to hold back. and that's what's happening. the president needs to be more reassuring. megyn: for the average consumer at home, because we talk about this a lot, tax increases people

can understand, right? is taxes go up or they go down. up people don't like, down they like. regulations, what is it specifically? because i know president obama, he has come out and said that he is for rolling back regulations on business. he just eliminated an ozone regulation -- >> which is very positive. megyn: so to his critics, and you sound like one of them, who says he's pro-regulation, he would say you're wrong. what specifically is it that you want to see eliminated? >> the regulations that his administration has set forth from the beginning of the administration to now is well over $5 billion. we have over $1.75 trillion in regulations on businesses, and on small -- businesses are small business employers, big business employers, they're employers. they create the jobs. so when we talk about regulations, it's like an added tax on businesses. so, for example, the national labor relations board, they've come out with a number of very strong regulations that, basically, codifies, um, what's

called card check. this would, basically, eliminate private ballot -- megyn: yeah. this is something that was very controversial, how unions are allowed to organize whether -- >> but there are others. the epa. megyn: normally it's a secret ballot, and they wanted to eliminate that. they couldn't get it through congress, and now the national labor relations board has said, it's okay, no longer secret ballot, essentially. >> the nlrb is also implement what's called snap elections that will not allow management the opportunity to communicate their viewpoints. and also cherry picking workers. in a collective bargaining unit. these are very, very strong and aggressive measures to help unbalance the playing field in favor of one group versus another. and they're certainly not helping workers. but everybody at home recognizes regulations. for example, flushing toilets. you know, a certain level of water that we now have in new

toilet tanks. they're regulated by the government. light lightbulbs that we now see, they're regulated as to how long we can have incandescent light. so the government is infusing itself all over our daily lives, and on businesses in particular how they do business, how they're able to hire increased costs of hiring, all of this is contributing to great sense of unease about what the future holds, what the economic growth will be and, consequently, employers are holding back, and they're not hiring. it's not because they are not cooperative. you know, the president -- megyn: they're worried, you think. you think they're worried about whether they're going to have the cash. >> absolutely. megyn: but everyone's reporting that businesses do have cash in their coffers, and they're just not spending it. they've got the money. they say there's this growing disparity between corporations that have, actually, a bunch of dough in the bank and not to mention the wealthy. and the unemployed and the low to middle class americans who don't, who can't get jobs and, i mean, is your answer less

regulation and that will, you know, close the divide? >> you know, i think the president has to reassure the public that the private sector is not the enemy. and that if they're sitting on a lot of cash, it's not because they're unpatriotic, it's because they're concerned about the future. the cash may be very large from an aggregate point of view, but from each individual small business or regular business point of view, you know, they're husbanding that cash for future government mandates, for future taxes that might come up or for new mandates on employing that would make the cost of employing new workers that much more expensive. so, again, it goes back to the whole basic concept that the private sector is not the enemy. we need to promote the environment through which they will hire more people. megyn: he definitely uses that language, and we've heard him use that before, and we'll see, you know, whether he has a plan to ease up some of those regulations that would satisfy some of his critics or whether, you know, he doesn't think that's the way. madam secretary, always a

pleasure. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. megyn: all the best. elaine chao, everybody. well, again, the president is just minutes away with what we are told is a preview of the big thursday jobs speech. his first reaction to those awful august job numbers. there was zero, we have added no jobs in the past month to the, you know, job roster, and the president has yet to speak to that. so, hopefully, we'll hear from him on it today. also this labor day, it took 100 people to hoist this colossal crocodile out of the water. would you look at it? look at its forearm. look at it! we'll tell you where they found it and why it's being called a rare find and why anybody would want to touch it. and he's been compared to the tv character doggy houser. is that really a comparison? kelly's court takes a look at the case of a teenager who wound up treating hospital patients and, by the way, we learned today it was far worse than we knew without ever having a license.

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megyn: an alert coming in for you now, incredible video of a tornado touching down near albany, new york, last night. watch this. >> i can't believe what i'm just -- what i'm seeing. i can't believe what i'm seeing. oh, my god, i can't believe what i'm seeing. i think that's a tornado. oh, my god. a tornado's crossing the freeway. oh, my god. i'm in the car right now, i'm at the amsterdam mohawk west area

on the freeway. i'm a little freaked out, um, because i'm pretty sure i just saw a tornado form across the freeway. i'm okay -- megyn: albany! those are my people! let me tell ya, we don't get a lot of tornadoes up in albany, new york. lindsay phillips was in her car when she caught this on tape. the tornado cutting a path of destruction -- look at this. let me tell you, folks, you know, the most exciting -- the only tornadoes we see in if albany happen at the seat of government. they don't happen in the sky. fortunately, no reports of any serious injuries. the twister damaging homes, knocking down trees and power lines. the area still reeling from the damage

>> president obama, this is your army. we are ready to march. let's take these son of a bitches out and give america back to america where we belong! thank you very much! [cheers and applause] megyn: joining me now to discuss it, brad blakeman, former deputy

assistant to president george w. bush and dick harpootlian. brad, i see you giggling as you listened to it. why? >> i think it's thug ri at its best. it's what unions are good at. it's what we've seen in wisconsin and other places, intimidation. but this is the warm-up act? is this is the touchy feely act before the president arrives? i mean, these are the kind of remarks you'd expect out of tony soprano, not a union president. well, i take that back. a hoffa presidency is the type of person you'd hear this type of rhetoric. the president should repudiate it. megyn: should he, brad? i'm sure president obama can't be happy that that was said right before he goes out there, but should he say something to it? >> i think the president -- megyn: i'm sorry, i meant dick. my apologies. go ahead, dick. >> i'm sorry. is this me? okay. you know, i think this is, this is jimmy hoffa's son. the shocker is that all we heard come out of his mouth was sons

of bitches. i think this is a warm-up act in detroit, michigan -- megyn: but it's not the profanity. that's not great, right? when you're the warm-up act for the president, never great to be profane. it's the suggestion, let's take 'em out. it's a war, we're your army, let's take these s.o.b.s out. >> well, i mean, is that any worse than what the tea party's saying? >> oh, come on, dick. >> oh, no, no, no, no. i mean, this is the same sort of -- hey, i'm in columbia, south carolina. not very far from here we've got jim demint's forum. these guys are frothing at the mouth, they're snarling, they're growling. all of them. maybe not middle romney -- mitt romney. i don't know that he knows how to growl. so for me to hear anybody, oh, my goodness gracious, his rhetoric's over the top, here as i sit in columbia, south carolina, i find that somewhat disingenuous down here. >> it usually means somebody's legs are going to get broken, somebody's going to disappear.

tea party people don't use that kind of rhetoric. >> oh, my god. >> if you can't stand up, dick, and say what this guy said is wrong, then you're incredible. you don't deflect and try and bring the tea party into it. the tea party didn't say it. a union president said it. he said it before the president of the united states was going to remark. by the way, it's not union day, it's labor day. it celebrates all mesh workers -- american workers, not just unions. megyn: let me ask in this context because you started by giving him a pass because it's jimmy hoffa jr. some folks last week gave maxine waters a pass when she said the tea party could go straight to hell. andre carson who said there are people sitting in congress right now who want to see african-americans hanged from trees. everybody's giving a pass on a piecemeal basis, and do you think, you know, collectively it amounts to something more in your view, dick? >> well, sure. i mean, when rick perry calls the head of the fed, ben

bernanke, from dylan, south carolina, his conduct treasonous and he gets a pass? >> he didn't get a pass. people like me stood up and said it was wrong. it was wrong for him to say that. a lot of republicans did stand up and say that. >> not many. not many, brad. >> type of hate speech. megyn: go ahead, dick. i'll let you respond, and then we're going to go to the president of after his opening remarks. you're not going to misany of the substance, but he's going to say his hellos. go ahead, dick. >> all i'm saying is, brad, it's a vacation day. take a deep breath. if worst thing we hear today from all the political speeches is what jimmy hoffa jr. said, it's going to be a quiet labor day, where's the rhetoric -- megyn: but, dick, it was the president who called for more civility, who tried to rewrite the rules in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting. >> it didn't work. megyn: but why doesn't he rein in members of his own party? this guy's the warm-up act from the president. he's steps away from the president, and he's saying the

tea partiers and/or republicans are people who jimmy hoffa thinks he's in a war with, that those s.o.b.s can go straight to -- let me just get -- take 'em out? is. >> i'm sorry, i just don't see anything wrong with that. i know it's touchy-feely time up at fox news today, but -- >> no, it's called being civil. it's called being respectful. that's what it's being called. megyn: okay, guys. >> and you don't have the guts to stand up against the president and those who sport him when they do wrong where. megyn: i thank you both for being here and have a great labor day, both of you. >> thank you. >> absolutely. let's go cook some dogs. [laughter] megyn: he meant hot dogs. we're going to go to president obama's remarks, a preview of what we're going to hear on thursday. herman cain is going to join me right after this to react, so stay tuned, and let's take a listen. [cheers and applause] >> we're thrilled to be joined by so many other friends. i want to acknowledge, first of all, two of the finest senators

in the country; carl levin and debbie stabenow in the house. [cheers and applause] outstanding member of the congressional delegation, john dingell, john conyers, samuel evans, gary peters and hanson clark. [cheers and applause] the president of the metropolitan detroit central labor council, our host, sandra williams. [cheers and applause] afl-cio president rich trumka -- [cheers and applause] president of the michigan afl-cio mark gaffney! [cheers and applause] and some proud sons and daughters of michigan representing working people here and across the country, seiu president mary kay henry. [applause] teamster president jimmy hoffa!

[cheers and applause] uaw president bob king! [cheers and applause] utility workers' president mike lang ford. we are proud of them, and we're proud of your congressional delegation who are working every single day with your state and local elected officials to create jobs and economic growth and prosperity here in michigan and all across the country. i am honored, we are honored to spend this day with you and your families, the working men and women of america. this day belongs to you. you deserve a little r and r, little barbecue. [laughter] little grilling. because you've been working hard. you've been working hard to make ends meet.

you've been working hard to build a better life for your kids. you've been working hard to build a better detroit. [applause] but that's not all i'm going to talk to you about. i also want to talk about the work you've been doing for decades, work to make sure the folks get an honest day's pay for an hospital day's work. [cheers and applause] -- for an honest day's work. [cheers and applause] work to make sure that families get a fair shake. the work you've done that helped build the greatest middle class that the world has ever known. [cheers and applause] i'm talking about the 40-hour workweek and weekends and paid leave and pensions and the might minimum wage and health insurance and social security and medicare, the cornerstones of middle class security. that's because of your work! [cheers and applause]

if you want to know who helped lay these cornerstones of an american middle class, you just have to look for the union laborers. [cheers and applause] that's the bedrock this country's built on. hard work, responsibility, sacrifice, looking out for one another, giving everybody a shot, everybody a chance to share in america's prosperity. from the factory floor to the boardroom. that's what unions are all about. and that's something that's worth keeping in mind today. [applause] we've come through a difficult decade in which those values were all too often given short shrift. we've gone through a decade

where greed was valued over responsibility and the decks were too often stacked against ordinary folks in favor of the special interests. and everywhere i went while i was running for this office i met folks who felt their economic security slipping away. men and women who were fighting harder and harder just to stay afloat. and that was even before the economic crisis hit. and that just made things even harder. so these are tough times for working americans. they're even tougher for americans who are looking for work. and a lot of them have been looking for work for a long time. a lot of folks have been looking for work for a long time here in detroit and all across michigan and all across the midwest and all across the country. so we've got a lot more work to do to recover fully from this recession. but i'm not satisfied just to get back to where we were before

the recession. we've got to fully restore the middle class in america. [cheers and applause] and america cannot have a strong, growing economy without a strong, growing middle class and without a strong labor movement. [applause] that's the central challenge that we face in our country today. that's at the core of why i ran for president. that's what i've been fighting for since i've been president. [cheers and applause] everything we've done, it's been thinking about you. we've had working folks deserved a break, so within one month of me taking office, we signed into law the biggest middle class tax cut in history putting more money into your pockets. [cheers and applause] we said working folks shouldn't be taken advantage of, so we passed tough financial reforms that ended the days of taxpayer

bailouts and stop credit card companies from gouging you with hidden fees and unfair rate hikes and set up a new consumer protection agency. [applause] with one responsibility; sticking up for you. we said that the you're going to work hard all day to provide a better life for your kids, we're going to make sure that those kids get the best education possible. so we helped keep teachers on the job. [applause] we're reforming our public schools, and we're investing in community colleges and job training programs. [applause] and we ended wasteful giveaways that went to the big banks and used the savings to make college more affordable for millions of your kids. [cheers and applause] we said that every family in america should have affordable, accessible health care. [applause]

we said you shouldn't be discriminated against because you've got a pre-existing condition. we said young adults without insurance should be able to stay on their parents' plan. we got that done. for you. [cheers and applause] and here's what else we said, detroit. we said that american auto workers could once again build the best cars in the world. [cheers and applause] so we stood by the auto industry, and we made some tough choices that were necessary to make it succeed. and now the big three are turning a profit and hiring new workers and building the best cars in the world right here in detroit, right here in the midwest, right here in the united states of america. i know it, i've seen it. [applause] [cheers and applause] i've been to gm's plant, i've been to chrysler's north plant, i've seen detroit prove the

cynics and the naysayers wrong. we didn't just stop there. we said american workers could manufacture the best products in the world. so we invested in high-tech manufacturing, and we invested in clean energy. and right now there's an advanced battery industry taking root here in michigan that's barely existed before. [applause] half of the workers at one plant in detroit were unemployed before a new battery company came to town. and we're growing our exports so that more of the world buys products that are stamped with three simple words: made in america. [cheers and applause] that's what we're fighting for, michigan. we're fighting for good jobs with good wages. we're fighting for health care when you get sick. we're fighting for a secure

retirement even if you're not rich. we're fighting for the chance to give our kids a better life than we had. that's what we're doing to restore middle class security and rebuild this economy the american way. based on balance and fairness and the same set of rule for everybody from wall street to main street. [cheers and applause] an economy where hard work pays off and gaming the system doesn't pay off. [cheers and applause] and everybody's got a shot at the american dream. that's what we're fighting for. [cheers and applause] on thursday we're going to lay out a new way forward on jobs to you the economy -- to grow the economy and put more americans back to work right now. i don't want to give everything away right here. because i i can't -- i want y'all to tune in on thursday.

but i'll give you just a little bit. [cheers and applause] we've got roads and bridges across this country that need rebuilding. we've got private companies with the equipment and the manpower to do the building. we've got more than one million unemployed construction workers ready to get dirty right now. [cheers and applause] there is work to be done, and there are workers ready to do it. labor's onboard, business is onboard, we just need congress to get onboard. let's put america back to work. [cheers and applause] >> four more years! >> last year, last year we worked together, republicans and democrats, to pass a payroll tax cut. and because of that this year the average family has an extra thousand dollars in their pocket because of it.

but that's going to expire in a few months if we don't come together to extend it. and i say putting money back in the pockets of working families is the best way to get demand rising because that then means business is hiring, and that means the government -- that means that the economy is growing. [applause] so i'm going to propose ways to put america back to work that both parties can agree to. because i still believe both parties can work together to solve our problems, and given the urgency of this moment, given the hardship that many people are facing folks have got to get together. but we're not going to wait for 'em. [cheers and applause] we're going to see if we've got some straight shooters in congress.

we're going to see if congressional republicans will put country before party. [cheers and applause] we'll give them a plan, and then we'll say do you want to create jobs? then put our construction workers back to work rebuilding america. [cheers and applause] do you want to help our companies succeed? open up new markets for them to sell their products. you want, you say you're the party of tax cuts? well, then prove you'll fight just as hard for tax cuts for middle class families as you do for oil companies and the most affluent americans. [cheers and applause] show us what you've got. [cheers and applause] the time for washington games is over. [cheers and applause] the time for action is now. [cheers and applause] no more manufactured crises, no more games. now's not the time for the people you sent to washington to worry about their jobs, now is the time for them to worry about

your jobs. [cheers and applause] now, let me say a word about labor in particular. you know, know this is not going to be an easy time. i know it's not easy when there's some folks who have their sights trained on you. after all that unions have done to build and protect the middle class, you've got people trying to claim that you're responsible for the problems middle class folks are facing. [laughter] you've got some republics saying you're the -- republicans saying you're the ones exploiting working families. imagine that. now, the fact is our economy is stronger when workers are getting paid good wages and good benefits. [cheers and applause] our economy is stronger when

we've got broad-based growth and broad-based prosperity. that's what unions have always been about, shared prosperity. you know, i was on the plane and flying over here, and carl levin was with me. and he showed me a speech that harry truman had given on labor day 63 years ago right here in detroit. 63 years ago. and just goes to show that things haven't changed much. he talked about how, you know, americans had voted in some folks in the congress who weren't very friendly to labor. and he pointed out that some working folks and even some union members voted these folks in. and now they were learning their lesson. and he pointed out that, and i'm quoting here, the games of labor

were not accomplished -- the gains of labor were not accomplished at the expense of the rest of the nation. labor's gains contributed to the nation's general prosperity. [cheers and applause] what was true back in 1948 is true in 2011. when working families are doing well, when they're getting a decent wage and they're getting decent benefits, that means they're good customers for business. that means they can buy the cars that you build. that means that you can buy the food from the farmers. that means you can buy from silicon valley. you are creating prosperity when you share in prosperity. so when i hear some of these folks try to take collective bargaining rights away, trying to pass so-called right-to-work laws for private sector workers that really mean the right to

work for less and less and less -- >> boo! >> when i hear some of this talk, i know this is not about economics, this is about politics. and i want everybody here to know as long as i'm in the white house, i'm going to stand up for collective bargaining. [cheers and applause] >> four more years! four more years! four more years! four more years! four more years! >> that's, that's why we've reversed harmful decisions that were designed to undermine those rights. that's why we passed the fair pay act, to stop pay discrimination. [applause] that's why we appointed people who are actually fulfilling their responsibilities to make sure that the offices and factories and mine workers that clock in each day, that they're

actually safe on the job. and we're going to keep at it. because having a voice on the job and a chance to organize and a chance to negotiate for a fair day's pay after a hard day's work, that is the right of every man and woman in america. [cheers and applause] not just the ceo in the corner office, but also the janitor who cleans that office after the ceo goes home. [cheers and applause] everybody's got the same right. and that's true for public employees as well. look, the recession had a terrible effect on state and local budgets. we all understand that. unions have recognized that. they've already made tough concessions. in the private sector, we live in a more competitive global economy, so unions like the uaw understand that workers have to work with management to revamp business models, to innovate so

we can sell our products around the world. we understand that the world is changing. unions understand that the world is changing. unions understand they need to help drive the change whether it's on the factory floor or in the classroom or in the government office. but what unions also know is that the values at the core of the union movement, those don't change. those are the values that have made this country great. [applause] that's what the folks trying to undermine your rights don't understand. when union workers agree to pay freezes and pay cuts, they're not doing it just to keep their jobs, they're doing it so their fellow workers, their fellow americans can keep their jobs. [cheers and applause] when teachers agree to reforms in the how schools are run -- in how schools are run at the same time they're digging into their pockets to buy school supplies

for those kids, they do so because they believe every child can learn. [applause] they do it because they know something that those who seek to divide us don't understand. we are all in this together. that's why those crowds came out to support you in madison and in columbus. we are one nation. we are one people. we will rise, and we will fall together. [applause] anyone who doesn't believe it should come here to detroit. it's like the commercial says, this is the city that's been to heck and back. [cheers and applause] and while there are a lot of challenges here, i see a city that's coming back. [cheers and applause] you ask somebody here if times are tough, they'll say, yeah, it's tough. but we're tougher.

look at what we're doing to overcome. look at what we're doing to rebuild and reinvent and redefine what it means to live in this great city. look at our parents who catch the first bus to work and our students who stay up late to earn a degree. look at our workers on the line at jefferson north who are building the best cars in the world. look at our artists who are revamping our city and our young people who are thinking up new ways to make a difference that we never dreamed of. look how we look out for one another. that's why we chose detroit as one of the cities that we're helping revitalize in the our strong cities, strong communities initiative. [cheers and applause] we're teaming up with everybody, mayors, local officials, you name it, boosting economic development, rebuilding your communities the best way which is a way that involves you. because despite all that's changed here and all the work

that lies ahead, this is still a city where men built the greatest middle class the world has ever known. this is the city where women rolled up their sleeves and helped build an arsenal for democracy to free the world. [cheers and applause] this is a city where the great american industry has come back to life, and the industries of tomorrow are taking root. this is a city where people brave and bold, courageous and clever are dreaming up ways to prove the skeptics wrong and write the next proud chapter in our history. [cheers and applause] that's why i wanted to be here with you today. [applause] because for every cynic and every naysayer running around talking about how our best days are behind us, for everybody who keeps going around saying, no, we can't -- [cheers and applause] for everybody, for everybody who can always find a reason why we can't rebuild america i meet

americans every day who this face of impossible odds, they've got a different belief. they believe we can. [cheers and applause] you believe we can. yes, times are tough, but we've been through tough times before. i don't know about you, but i'm not scared of tough times. [applause] i'm not scared of tough times because i know we're going to be all marching together and walking together and working together and rebuilding together, and i know we don't quit! [cheers and applause] i know we don't give up our dreams and settle for something less. [applause] we roll up our sleeves, and we remember a fundamental truth of our history. we are strong when we are united. we're firing on all cylinders. the union movement's going to be at the center of it. and if all of you are committed to making sure that the person standing next to you and their

kids and their grandkids, that everybody in this city and everybody in this country can unleash his or her potential, if you work hard, play by the rules, you will get a fair shake and get a fair shot. that's the country i want for my kids. that's the country you want for your kids. [applause] that's the country we're going to build together. [cheers and applause] thank you very much, detroit! god bless you! [cheers and applause] god bless the united states of america. [cheers and applause] megyn: and there you have it, the president of the united states addressing a crowd in detroit, many union members there who are rallying for the president's philosophy and to his political beliefs there. you could hear the president saying, talking quite a bit about unions saying after all unions have done, you've got people trying to claim that you're the ones to blame for the middle class problem, something the president clearly does not

believe. and says when he hears people trying to take collective bargaining rights away, he knows it is about politics making clear that he will stand up for unions, he will stand up for collective bargaining rights. none of that's surprising, the president's been a big supporter of unions from the time he ran for office and they a big supporter of his, donating over $400 million last election cycle to his democratic causes, including to the president himself with part of that money. so there you have it. we had been told it might be a bit of a preview of what we would hear on thursday night and his jobs speech. not so much. the president focused more on unions as far as the economy saying more, look, we've got a lot of work to do. and that's where we begin this brand new hour of "america live." welcome, everything, on this labor day, i am megyn kelly. you heard the president speaking there and he was, you know, speaking a little bit about the economy, but he's going to roll out his key ideas on thursday night. gauging reaction today as he puts the finishing touches on

his address to the nation. now, here's an example, just a theme. there were a few where he mentioned sort of what he might be saying on thursday, and here was one of those moments. >> we've got roads and bridges across this country that need rebuilt. we've got private companies with the equipment and the manpower to do the building. we've got more than one million unemployed construction workers ready to get dirty right now. [cheers and applause] there is work to be done, and there are workers ready to do it. lay wore's onboard, business is onboard, we just need congress to get onboard. >> let's put america back to spoke, the union-heavy crowd was, you know, whipped into a bit of a frenzy with some fiery rhetoric from the teamsters' president, jimmy hoffa jr., who went after the tea party with some rather harsh language. >> we've got to keep an eye on the battle that we face, the war on workers. you see it everywhere. it is the tea party.

there is only one way to win that war. the one thing about working people is we like a good fight. they got a war with us, and it's going to be the workers of michigan and america. we are going to win that war. president obama, this is your army. we are ready to march. let many's take these son of a bitchs out and get america back to where we belong. megyn: joining me now herman cain and former ceo of godfather's pizza. let me start with you. getting your reaction of that jimmy hoffa junior rhetoric.

some sitting members of congress backed by the tea party want to see african-americans hanging from trees, now we have jimmy ho forecast fa junior coming out -- now we have jimmy hoffa saying we want to take these sons of bs out. >> they have no plan, they have no ideas. the one reason the president and his administration don't have an idea that's going to work is they keep forgetting the business sector is the engine that drives growth. they don't understand that. the fact that they have no result and no plan, the president has spent a trillion dollars or more on these so-called infrastructure projects. it didn't work. we can't spend our way to prosperity. he's offering the same old stuff so all hoffa and others can

resort to is name calling. that's all they have to intimidate folks. when he mentioned about working people. tea party people work, too. this is the whole points. the fact that the president made his remarks and didn't offer one constructive idea about how he's going the get this economy going and the reason is simple. he doesn't have any. zero job growth and i'm looking thursday for another zero in that speech that he's going to give. megyn: do you think the president should have spoken to us? it's not like some pundit saying something. this is jimmy hoffa who is essentially the opening act for president obama saying we should take these sons of bs out in what has been essentially a political party in this country. >> the president talks about civility, his biggest supporters in the union are showing

incivility. the tea party people don't use that kind of rhetoric. i don't stoop to name calling. what they are going to do is continue to try to get across the tea party message which has been blurred by people like the unions and others out there. they want three simple things. fiscal responsibility, recognize our constitutional liberties, don't rewrite the constitution. let's even 40s, and third, let the free market w. the president's whole agenda has been anti-free market. the tea party will continue to make their voices heard and i believe they will prevail in november 2012. megyn: one thing you and the president agree with is getting rid of the payroll tax the folks have to pay. the president got rid of half of that. you would like to see the whole thing gone. is that a start? >> that is not even a start.

when he proposed and was able to get approved that 2% reduction in payroll tax, that was just enough for it not to work. my plan which i call the 999 plan replaces all the payroll tax it, a 9% tax on corporate income, 9% tax on personal income, and a 9% national sales tax. it eliminates the capital gains tax and eliminates the payroll tax to truly boost this economy. the president and his administration, they don't want to boost this economy. they want more government control, more government spending and all that will do is to send this economy off that recession. we'll run off the cliff if they do more spending and more regulatory onslaught like this president is doing. megyn: you may disagree with the president's policies but you don't agree he doesn't care

about seeing a struggling economy, right? >> i don't believe he doesn't care, megyn. he just doesn't have a clue. this is what i'm saying. economic principle number one. look at our best decade in terms of ref knew of general eighthed and economic strength in the 60s it was because president kennedy was able to get tax rates dramatically lower. as well as reduce the regulatory burden. also ronald reagan in the as it. megyn: ronald reagan lowered taxes when he first came into office, then he raised them. that's what president obama's supporters point to. he was a pragmatist when he suave the need the raise them. >> not true. the other thing we are up against in terms of name calling is wrong information. that simply is not true. talk to art laffer.

he explains how the reagan model worked. that is disinformation to deeast american people into thinking lowering taxes is a bad thing. lowering taxes is a good thing. that's the only way we are going to get out of this economic mess. the administration, the president and his advisors are in denial of that. i have bad news for the 14 million people unemployed or underimplied and the businesses hanging on. unfortunately with these policies nothing is going to get better between now and november 2012. i'm sorry to be the bearier of bad us in. that's a fact because they don't recognize the engine of economic growth is the business sector and they refuse to accept that fundamental economic facts. megyn: let me ask you as someone who has real world economic experience and godfather is employing more than 10,000 people if i'm not mistaken.

>> yes. megyn: you hear the president speaking to unions, and they have been in the headlines a lot with what was happening with wisconsin. the president saying after all unions have done to improve the workplace rights of good old regular middle class americans who are just trying to pay the bills, now they are being demonized. there are people trying to claim you union members are the ones to blame for middle class problems. the president is saying that's nuts. it's a message i think we'll hear more of because unions are big supporters of his and he of theirs. can you speak to it? how do you feel about it? >> i believe they will continue the rhetoric. a lot of the its is simply not true. they are playing to people's emotions rather than putting specific plans on the table. here is what i would do about detroit. you know that 999 plan i talk about? i would turn the entire city of

detroit into a big empowerment zone. the reason empowerment zones didn't work to start with is because of our currents tax code. it allowed bureaucrats to pick winners and losers. with the simple structure i talk about, 999, it would be fairly easy to generate an empowerment zone called businesses want to grow and move there, it would cause people wanting to live there. instead of 999, maybe it's an 888 plan for those kinds of areas. this commission on life support. we are not going to be -- this economy is on life support. we can't give speeches and gets off life supports. i have put together a bold plan to address the problem. i believe that we have to make sure we are work on the right problem. that we surround ourselves with the right people. that's what i have done all my career. you put together plans that are

common sense plans that will work. this is where the president is failing on all three. megyn: herman cain, thank you so much for being back with us. we appreciate it. >> megyn, thank you. it's my pleasure. megyn: you can watch for herman cain and the rest of the gop presidential candidates at the upcoming debate sponsored by fox news channel and google. bret baier, chris wallace and i will be there from orlando, florida september 22. you can submit questions right now, you want to ask. you will be doing the asking. google and youtube. check them out or go to foxnews.com to post your question now. we have an extreme weather alert -- we are just getting reports from mississippi of a person killed by flooding from tropical storm lee. a man was apparently swept away by flood waters near jackson, mississippi over the weekend as

the entire region continues to cope with major flooding. we go to elizabeth pran who is live in biloxi, mississippi. >> reporter: that 67-year-old man died while he was trying to escape the floodwaters near his home. we saw a man swept into the give in texas and another east us in alabama. what officials are very concerned about -- it's been fascinating. we have been here a couple days. these waves were crashing ashore. now we have physically seen and felt the winds of this storm and the tropical depression basically hit, now it's pushing back out to shore. there is the barrier island protecting us. the reason i'm telling you that is there is a huge danger with rip currents. we saw that in the deaths in texas and alabama. it's basically an invisible danger. people go out and want to

salvage their weekend. they can't seat rip currents and they can be dangerous. for people north and northeast of us, what we have seen the past 24-48 hours, what they can expect the next 24-48 hour for them. we saw flooding, 15 inches in biloxi and 12 reports of tornadoes although unconfirmed by the national weather service. residents have told us they have seen extreme damage to their homes, evidence of tornadoes. megyn: widespread power outages still a major concern a full week after hurricane irene hit the eastern seaboard. new york, 2,500 people still in the dark. connecticut, 4,500 people coping without power. and people in virginia still struggling without electricity. we have breaking news out of phoenix. we are learning police may have found the explosives that vanished from the airport.

according to our fox news affiliate the police receiving a tip from the man you see in a white t-shirt telling them he found the explosives concealed in a blue cooler and put them in his truck. a bomb squad has removed the container and is examining it. they were part of a routine training exercise for the police in phoenix who says they were taken from a public area in the airport. this is a picture of the blue cooler that held the he can pleasives. we are told they cannot be detonated without additional equipment.

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may. they are saying he is willing to talk about his political future. he was a fixture in millions of american homes every labor day weekend since 1966. last night the annual muscular dystrophy telethon started with a tribute to jerry lewis. but he was nowhere in sight. the muscular dystrophy association claims he quote retired. the lewis cam is saying nothing. questions about what really happened behind the scenes and whether this was handled appropriately. david brenner got his start on "the tonight show" and can be found on "comedy central." i know you are indebted to jerry lewis because he told the world how great you were when you were not as well known as you are now. jerry lewis is 85 years old. this is what happens.

even when you are 40 years old. your tv appeal is slipping and the next thing you know you are not hosting anymore. it can happen. even deck clark came out and said part of the keefe is knowing when it's time to leave. some folks are saying it is time for him to leave. other folks say it was handled outrageously even if that is the case. >> i think it's outrageous. it's terrible. but it's not surprising. because the tv executives like corporate executives. painting by numbers, they squeeze you until you no longer produce any money for them. then they to us out like a used condom. it's very common. i think that's the case here. they did it to mike douglas. they did it to johnny carson. 22 years on the air. he gave them 25% of their gross

income. but thanks to johnny, they tossed him out and now they did it to jerry lewis. megyn: he raised $2.5 billion. over the course of so many decades. do you think different many fishy to me how no one is commenting. first they just said they were going in a different direction and he had completed his run and wouldn't be involved in the program. then there was this backlash and they did a tribute to him by video. he was involved tonight, at the beginning of the telethon. why would they handle it this way? >> the tribute is the escape hatch. they did a tribute to mike douglas and johnny carson. you reach a certain age when you are no longer reaching the demographic they want. my demographic is 4 oh and up.

you have to be in the 18-35 demographic. i work on current events, and i'm funny. but that's not good enough to be just funny. i have the record for being the most frequent guest on talk shows and i haven't been able to get on a talk show in the last two years. and scandal. i'll tell you how i could jumpstart my career if i was on sun set strip naked with breast implants smoking pot i would be on a talk show tomorrow night. megyn: sex tapes are making celebrities out of people. 85-year-old men, even those who have raised $2.5 billion for a worthy organization, maybe the assertion is they don't rate?

>> it comes down to what happened because jerry lewis did what he did. not only money, but think of all the kids with that horrible disease who have been helped and will continue to be helped because of what one man did. and you don't turn around and tell that one man you are useless. go out to pasture. walk around. get a cane. we are going to bring in someone young, someone who is going to appeal more. it's so typical of this country. it's a shame. jerry for all -- he has all kinds of reputations, jerry. for me he has always been great because of we did formica rear from the first time i appeared on television. look what he did for the mda. how can you toss him out the door? in another week americans won't even talk about it anymore.

megyn: it seems like it's part of the americana to have the jerry lewis telethon. in the past asked by a tv cite figure was satisfied with what he had done with the muscular dystrophy association. he said, quote, get the cure, then i'll be fine. >> i would have guessed that, yes. thank you very much. megyn: the world trade center, the target of two terror attacks, two, the one on 9/11 and one prior to that in 1993. now as we get set to mark 10 years since 9/11, a look at the extraordinary efforts to protect ground zero. president obama gave what the white house says is a sneak peek on his speech on jobs. >> time for washington games is over. the time for action is now.

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julie banderas is live in the newsroom with this one. >> reporter: officers are planning to be on patrol to make sure the 9/11 tribute is safe next sunday. we have been given a look at intense security preparations that will be in place because of our history here. terrorists tried to topple the world trade center in 1993, they succeeded in 2001. new york police have taken extraordinary steps to secure

the city every single day. but next sunday security will be unprecedented. the police commissioner ray kelly says it would be naive to think that terrorists don't want to target the site again, especially because it embodies so much symbolism for america. >> osama bin laden spoke about it twice. so that sort of ups our concern. >> reporter: for the people expected to pay their respects at the memorial. they say they can be watches from all angles. visitors will go through airport-style screening and we have a glance at the nypd's counter-terrorism bureau in lower manhattan where police and private security workers monitor surveillance cameras.

these vigilant screeners will be especially watchful of ground zero. >> these are specifically of the world trade center area. in the world trade center area alone on september 11 we'll have approximately 450 camera feeds. you see some of the construction site. we seat areas near the construction site. you see the 9/11 memorial plaza. and this is all monitored in realtime by officers sitting here. >> reporter: president obama and former president bush in attendance, the focus on security will not be on the world trade center alone. multiple agencies will have a 360-degree view. megyn: as they ramp up security we are following a frightening chain of events in phoenix. explosives went missing, then were found again. new details just ahead. president obama gave a speech

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megyn: now to america's jobs crisis and the president's big speech thursday. president obama traveled to detroit to give what we were told would be preview of later this week. here is of what what he said. >> we have roads and bridges across this country that need rebuilding. we have private companies with the equipment and manpower to do the building. we have 1 million construction workers ready to get dirty right now. there is work to be done and there are workers ready to do it. labor is onboard, business is on board. we just need congress to get on board. let's put america back to work. meg already beyond calling on congress to quote do something" the president didn't offer a ton of specifics, we are told we can expect that thursday. regina lewis, and pat powell is the ceo and founder of powell

financial group. he didn't get into the nitty-gritty but we expect thursday he will. and we'll hear more of the general theme of congress. they need to pass his jobs plan. which includes extension of the payroll tax cuts. he wants patent reform. those are sort of a few of his main element that we expect him to kick off. matt? is he going to go big and sort of blame congress if he doesn't get this through? >> i don't think he's going to go big. i think he will play the cheerleader blame game like he just did in michigan about an hour ago. he keeps come together table with the same exact ideas, extend payroll unemployment benefits. the problem is that's a short-term fix but it does not create long-term demand and it doesn't give me the sense as a business owner to go out and hire. megyn: but it puts money in

people's pockets. you extend unemployment benefits. so people have dollars to spend. >> it's coming from other taxpayers. they are redistributing the money. megyn: the taxpayers are rich people. that's the white house's argument. >> you are take from one demographic to another demographic. the rich are spending. they are some of the strongest retailer out there. to me you are not creating anything. you are moving money around to make a hotter-term fix. he many putting a band-aid on it. eventually you have to pay for it. megyn: there is a fascinating editorial in the "new york times" saying he needs to spend more. you have maxine waters calling for a trillion dollars in spending.

they say we are experiencing a defacto austerity. they are saying you have to get blue collar workers out there on the job. >> i'm looking for that long term. just because you are going to buy more this holiday season, i think you can't do this without fundamentally fixing housing. >> they can't do it. >> but if you could -- >> he tried. >> if i knew what i was doing i would be doing it by now. but roads and bridges? he should show image after image thursday night. you see weeds in the dividers. you see chipped paint. megyn: this is where you get into the blame game. people say the tea party because the tea party has said no more. you already had $800 billion in

stimulus spending. look what shape the country is in. you are not getting anymore for roads and bridges and infrastructure spending. do the tea party has the solution? he says the government is the answer. >> the government really has two things it can do. it can get in the way or out of the way. private industry has created 2.4 million jobs since early 2010. where did they create them? they created them by having a demand for jobs. they went through you a tough time. they figured it out very carefully in 2008 when we were have much on the verge of an economic collapse. and business got it right. the government didn't get it right. they flushed 787 billion dollars down the toilet with the stimulus bill. they pandered to everybody.

megyn: do you agree with that, matt? while unemployment is so high, it's going in the right direction. the white house says it's thanks to the stimulus. >> it did give a bump for a few months. the problem is now the stimulus is no longer in there. we saw the jobs numbers louisiana week. if we keep doing stimulus we can keep it up. but who is paying for that? megyn: you hear so much about who is to blame. why aren't businesses hiring? >> it's not kinder and gentler. it's manor and it's meaner and meaner. >> people may have more money than they had last year butter in not spending it. megyn: what do you mean by that? what are the employers looking confidence in? they are worried that their taxes will go up and they will be regulated.

>> taxes, regulation and obama-care. those are three large issues looming right now that you do not know how much that many going to cost a year or two years from now. i'll sit on that cash and wait for demand to increase. megyn: do you think if president obama said we'll keep the bush tax cuts in place permanently because i belief in that, that businesses would start hiring again? >> no. the reason is we misdiagnosed the problem. we don't have a jobs recession. we have a skills recession. if you look at the real numbers. what you find is people without a high school diploma have an unemployment rate of 14.3%. megyn: is that different than 10 years ago? >> it's always higher. megyn: then it doesn't explain it. >> look at if you have a college degree in this economy, your

unemployment rate is 4.2%. there are jobs that go wanting. you can't find a physics teacher but you can find a lot of elementary ed teachers. you can't find an engineer but you can find a lot of actors who want to be on television. we have the wrong skills. >> i think the numbers have always been skewed. i think there are a lot of people out there out of jobs. these countries have the money, they don't want to spend it. and they are leaner meaner. >> why can't they fill engineering jobs? because we are not graduating enough engineers. megyn: if president obama calls you up tomorrow and says help me, how do i fix it. what would you tell him to do. >> i would jumpstart the green industry. megyn: he has been doing that. there is no political backbone for another greens job

investment right now. >> i would work on housing big time and do a short-term stimulus. i think you have to throw money at the problem. >> we have been doing that and it obviously doesn't work. the green jobs -- it's a private sector moved in the green direction, they would be doing it. megyn: he tried. but it hasn't been working. >> we are not ready for it. megyn: it's the readiness. >> you can't force an industry. >> you have got to go to the epa and start opening up the gulf again. those are good jobs we sent to south america. you have got to go to the epa and say stop looking at these coal companies and start rethinking their permits. we have to leave those jobs in place. boeing was willing and able to puts up a plant in the southeast and you want it in this big union territory in the northwest. the fact is that this

administration keeps getting in the way of jobs. they are not helping -- i'm not saying that there is nothing right in his agenda. i'm saying his agenda is the wrong agenda. what we are doing is we are not -- we don't have a robust economy. megyn: they need customers. how do you get that? guys, thank you very much. he was just 17 years old. didn't even have a high school diploma. but police say he was doing chest compressions on a patient having a heart attack and that's the least of it. we are learning more today about this dougie howser minus the med school. >> i'm embarrasses, i'm floored, i love him, and those are the best things i can say as a parent. ♪

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megyn: "kelly's court" is back in session. playing doctor notice emergency room and the o.r. 17-year-old matthew scheidt wants to be a doctor. police say he impersonated a physician or physician's assistant at a florida hospital for six days, dressing wounds, giving exams. removing an i.v. and doing chest compressions on a patient who was in cardiac arrest. scheidt accused of double talking the human resources department convincing them he needed a replacement security badge. now he's facing felony charges and his father is in disbelief. >> if you come up with a reason, i'm all ears. i don't know if i need to get

him psychiatric help, i don't know. megyn: i know, the answer is yes, you should. joining me to discuss it. mark eiglarsh and jonna spilbor. can you believe? it's stung what the kid managed to pull off. we can laugh about it because nobody was hurt. but according to the police he spent time in the o.r., in the e.r. where he conducted exams. accesses restricted information that he did chest compressions for five minutes on a patient having a heart attack. he did some sort of exam on a naked guy. it goes on and on. but no one was hurt, jonna, but you can expect there will be a lawsuit here in addition to the criminal charges. >> the thing this kid wielded was a tongue depressor. will there be lawsuits? yes. but who was harmed. the naked guy might be embarrassed but fortunately nobody suffered actual damages.

the law doesn't compensate you for what could have happened. so i think we'll be safe there. this kid faces felony charges. megyn: if i find out he removed my i.v. or gave me chest compressions or called in a prescription which i then took. then my doctor is saying you are fine, you are fine. and he's 17, i would be ticked off and i might consider talking to a lawyer. >> i would talk to a lawyer. is it reasonably foreseeable something like this could happen? look no further than doingling fake doctor and you get pangs of of -- you get pages of people who had access to sensitive information like this kid. their human resource department needs an overhaul. he gave two different explanations as to yes needed a new badge. that was okay by them. they both didn't make sense, but that's okay, we'll give him the

badge. once he has at golden ticket he can hang out in the gynecology department. at some point they need to realize this is a teenager who doesn't belong. megyn: he was working at a low-level clerk job and he convinces them's a physician's assistant. how does he show up in the e.r. and o.r. and taking pages from patients and calling in medications? why didn't anybody catch on at the hospital? that's what the plaintiffs' lawyers will say. the hospital should have known. >> maybe it was so busy they are not paying attention to the people opening the files. and it's not good. it's a violation, and that's going to get the hospital in hot water. but how they did not notice this kid was the new kid on the block is beyond me. but i have to go back to the issue of liability. and thankfully nobody was hurt. >> we don't know that. >> we know that.

he saved a guy's life by giving him chest compressions. you or i could do that if we had to. >> you are a good enough lawyer jonna to convince people if it gets to a jury that perhaps the cardiac arrest wouldn't have happened if a trained physician's assistant had given i am aspirin or whatever they give them before they get into cardiac arrest. megyn: you are going to argue the hospital should have known. apparently when he was calling in these orders, all the directives were being carried out by the hospital personnel. except for the last one when the patients became suspicious. something funny pushed them over the edge. a week these patients are sitting there in the hospital they are so sick, and dougie is coming over saying do yo -- do n

you are? and they say i concur. >> this could have been a whole lot worse. >> you send them to a psychiatrist. then the psychiatrist says i'm only 15. megyn: they say they are not sure if other similar impersonations may have occurred before or since. one final word for our viewers. this kid is in major trouble and the hospital is, too. where was the vetting and where were the grownups. we'll be right back. h parker... whose non-stop day starts with back pain... and a choice. take advil no and maybe up to four in a day. or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. way to go, coach. ♪ way to go, coach. have i got a surprise for you! yeah, it's new [ barks beneful healthy fiesta. gotta love the protein for muscles-- whoo-hoo! and omega-rich nutrition for that shiny coat.

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megyn: the clock is ticking on contract negotiations between the united auto workers.

and gm. ford did not take a government bailout so it's vulnerable to strike. >> this is a tremendous irony. ford as you said did not take the bailout money. and it appears at least on the surface that ford may be punished about it uaw for being successful. but there is a bit more to it than that. gm and chrysler agreed to submit any unresolved issues to binding arbitration. clause in effect ford workers are not bound by that provision. the current ford contract expires september 14th. last friday an overwhelming number of ford workers voted for a strike authorization if negotiations are not successful. may sound ominous but it is not as threatening as it sounds. >> the strike vote is expected

to pass, and it doesn't mean they will use it. it just means they have another arrow in thiver. >> reporter: if 97% or more vote to authorize a strike, it's not all that unusual. what are the chances the uaw strikes ford in. >> i think the probabilities of a strike sat ford is very low. bob king has two things he's trying to do. he's trying to organize the foreign transplants and a strike at ford would send the wrong message in that regard. secondly he has the obama reelection campaign. >> reporter: the economic meltdown of 2008 was a real wakeup call to the uaw and the auto industry. many auto workers came within an inch of losing their jobs. they don't want to lose them now

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