new york and other cities because it is a threat to the union. one footnote. there's one democrat, you are not going to like this, who in this case, this case alone, has defied the democratic party and that's the president of thist. >> he has -- the president of the united states. he has encouraged this reform movement it is the one place you can look and say the guy did something that he promised and believed in. >> sean: listen if we fix the education system, we stop -- go good to see you. that's all the time we have left. greta is with mitt romney, next. >> greta: right now, the anticipated race for 2012 could change in minutes. major announcement, right here. tea party getting slapped again. who this time? stay where you are, you will find out. big news about a possible troop withdrawal from iraq. we have former defense

secretary rumsfeld. governor mitt romney is betting president obama to the punch. he laid out his jobs plan two days ahead of the president's speech thursday night. how is he planning to put americans back to work? we asked the government fore. republican presidential contender and former massachusetts governor romney went on the record. nice to see you sir. >> thanks greta, good to be with you. >> greta: governor, everyone is horrified at our unemployment rate 9.1%, 14 million people unemployed. that is only part of it, 8 million under employed and more than two million who have given up, more than 25 million people who are in a hopeless situation. going to your economic plan, first the idea cut corporate income tax. if you cut the corporate tax

how soon can you get those people to work? >> i'm not going to be president for at least a year so it going to take a little while before those changes get put in place. if i've president on day one i have five bills to put in place within thirty days and five new executive orders to get this economy working again. not just was in the next thirty days but rather the next 30 years. i want america to lead in innovation, new jobs, highest income for middle income americans. middle incomet'mñamericans have had a tough time in this obama economy. we have to get these folks back to work. to make sure the squeeze they feeling ends and it is good to be in the middle class again. >> greta: i have a job. i can look at the big picture and look out 30 years and join the economic discussigo?eu abt it. the 25 million people who are desperate, they need a job right way the house is burning down. i think whatever program any

president suggests has to have some focus on a sense of urgency, how to move it as quickly as possible. i want the american people to understand what is realistic? i'm not asking you to exaggerate or say something that isn't possible but how fast can we start getting jobs? >> plan that i have put together, it is 59 different action steps. not just one or two silver bullets. 59 steps the plan i put in place will create growth in the economy of 4% per year over the next four years and 11 1/2 million jobs. that's putting americans back to work right away. it going to do a terrific job at improving incomes, getting america energy independent and making sure we remain the nation that is the number one job creator in the world. that's what we have to do and help middle income americans that are really struggling now. those that are out of work but those that have work are facing tough times. we have to do a better job

helping out that's what my 59-step plan does. >> greta: it has been a while since i studied economics. one of the problems for the corporate tax is corporations would want to get rid of all their money so they wouldn't have to pay tax doesn't the corporate tax have the opposite, rev up the economy rather than horde money? >> corporations are tacked when they earn a profit, whether or not they spend the earn a profit get taxed upon it. right now the average tax rate for developed nations for their employers is approximately 25%. our rate is 35%. what that means is, employers that are looking about decisions about where to start facility, look on other nations. if we want to create jobs here we have to be competitive with other nations. that's what i do. i also change the regulatory

structure that this president has put in place. i change dramatically our energy policies, our trade policies. we've got to open up markets for american goods. we have to clamp down on china that cheats on our trade agreements. we have to get serious about the challenges we face not just play at the edges. this president has i call it a pay phone strategy for a smartphone world. he's locked in the technology and economy of the past. he's trying to stuff quarters into a pay phone that pay phone isn't connected any more. we have smartphones. we have to have an economic strategy which is modern, updated, structured for the new economy. >> greta: i don't mean to suggest you don't have a program that is broad based and hits different areas i'm just focusing on them because we have a limited amount of time. let me ask you about the tax code. again, things don't get changed overnight. the simpson-bowles commission wanted to get rid of the 3300 earmarks as some call it.

what do you envision for the8i:x code? >> over time i think we have to have a tax code which is broader-based and brings down the rates that americans have to pay. immediately upon getting into office there are a couple of things i want to do out of the box. one is this, you know who has been most hurt by the obama economy? people in middle incomes. what i want to do is lower taxes for middle income americans. i will remove, for middle income americans people earning un22 -- under $200,000 a year any tax on dividends, capital gains let them use their money as they feel best with education, future, planning for retirement. we have to reduce the burden on middle income americans they are struggling right now. >> greta: governor huntsman has a new ad out he says when he was governor he was number one at job creating.

he says when you were massachusetts governor you were number 47. first, is that true? secondly, how is the united states economy different from the massachusetts economy so that you couldn't get the job growth there? >> my job record is pretty substantial over the years i've been in business 25 years, helped to create tens of thousands of jobs, i know how the economy works. i worked in the real economy creating real jobs. when i came into massachusetts, we were losing jobs every month. we were able to turn that around. balance the budget every year. our unemployment rate was below the national average for three of the four years i was governor. not all the states are the same. we can learn from one for. i'm proud of the fact we were able to get our state back on the right practice. -- right track. the unemployment rate when i left was lower than when i came into office. >> greta: i know there's a lot of playing with numbers. you can always do it with statistics we do it if in our own business regretably.

are you saying your job creation as governor was equal to or about or better than governor huntsman? i'm trying to understand whether or not there was job creation in massachusetts or not and how it relates to the national economy? >> well, i had just given you the numbers. our unemployment rate went down during night qe losing jobs every month turned into a state that was adding jobs every month. our unemployment rate wasler than the national average three of the four years i was governor. are there differences between states? sure. some states are better than other the state i was in needed a turn around. i'm proud of the fact that he i came into a state that was in tough times and carried out a turn around. there are other states, i can't speak for utah, i want there, there are other states that are doing very, very well don't need a turned around. ours needed that turn around i

was happy to be there and help >> greta: you said you were going to clamp down on keithers. -- on cheaters. how would you clamp down? do we have the foot on our throat because we owe them so much money. clamping down on china? >> to designate china as a currency manipulator. particularly in places where they are stealing our intellectual property. that means our patents, designs, now how. where they are stealing, hacking into our computer systems. as we saw the other day selling out of apple stores, apple goods they weren't really legitimate apple stores or goods. when that is happening we have to take corrective action you can take that year after year. america has to say if you are going to enter into an

agreement with this country we expect you to live by it. right now they are selling to america a multiple of what we sell to them. clearly a result of currencyk tariff and currency manipulator status is one way to do that. >> greta: right now governor perry is leading new the polls. polls are a snapshot of what going on now a lot can change. you were the front-runner now your theory on that? >> no particular theory. it is a fluid race. i'm known by a lot of folks. after they get a chance to hear us all and evaluate our experience they will make the decision. if people want somebody who knows how to turn things around and get things headed on the right track i'm the guy who has done that i did that in business, in the olympics, i did that in the state of massachusetts.

i want to use that experience to get america's economy going again for the american people. if that's what people want, i will be elected. if not, someone else will be. >> greta: hope you come back often. it is going to be a fascinating race. >> thanks greta, good to be with you. >> greta: right now there are 12 republican candidates all vying for president obama's job. the race is heating up fast. there are big names who could jump in and change everything. our next guest is one. tonight he's going to tell us in the race or out of the race? joining us john bolton. i've been hounding you. labor day has now passed, in or out? >> i've decided not to run for president. it is[áloúzñ very difficult decision. and my view has not changed one iota. that we need a much more robust discussion of national security issues as part of this presidential campaign. i say that not because i have an abstract interest in foreign policy.

but because the policies that president obama has been pursuing are extremely harmful to the nation now and into the future. unless we start talking about them, i don't think we are going to be able to fix them with a new president. >> greta: i will say this for the candidates we asked them domestic questions about the economy. i realize they reflect on our national security as a whole around the world. even secretary clinton and former secretary gates used to talk about how the economic situation put us at risk. i expect that discussion to come. >> part of the problem is, we are not going to elect the new president tomorrow and he's not going to take office the day off. obviously, people are concerned about our domestic economy. we are going to have an election in 14 months for four years that end in january of 2017. the issues are going to be different down the road. i think national secure did is going to are more important priority. if we don't know what the candidates think beyond bumper

sticker phrases, then it gives obama an advantage we shouldn't let him have given how dill -- deleterious his policies have been. >> greta: why such a tough decision? >> i kept coming to the conclusion i couldn't win the nomination. i revisited my assumptions and the data. i think i could have raised money. the political commentary in washington is convinced that foreign policy is not a winning issue. i think for voters especially in republican prime pearce the deep, very strong feelings of patriotism that they have, their antipathy toward a president who is constantly apologizing for america and who looks and is weak and indecisive is a powerful motivating force that some presidential candidate is going to capture. >> greta: is it a heartbreak to want something to think you could do a good job being pragmatic knowing what the

discussion is? . >> you have to be realistic about yourself above all other things. i'd love to be president. but i didn't get into this because of a desire to hold the office. i did it because i was and remain concerned that our nation is sleepwalking into crises internationally. whether it the continuing threat of terrorism, continuing proliferation of weapons of mass destruction dealing with russia and china and their assertiveness around the world. there will be a debate in september, october of next year and live tv, 60 or 90 minutes on national security. by then obama will have had 3 1/2 years in office. he will be very good at friending to be commander in chief. if the republican nominee isn't ready to take him on, obama will walk from an issue where he should be badly tagged. >> greta: i take it your interest you are not going to totally step out. i imagine you will be involved

in the dialogue, endorsing candidate, have a particular interest in a candidate. have you given that any thought? >> i haven't decided what to do. i'm going to new hampshire thursday to speak to a group of republicans now that i've removed this nimbus from the horizon about a campaign you can talk about the substance of the issue that's why national security ought to be more of a priority in the debate, because of the damage president obama is doing to the country. >> greta: if you had to commit now in the isn't of who is the strongest on national security for you? >> there8dr]aeeds to be more debate among the candidates. >> greta: you are uncertain? >> right. before he dropped out governor pawlenty was talking at greater length and in the right direction. the one republican candidate i would rule out at this point is ron paul. whose views on iran's nuclear weapons program are not

dissimilar from president obama he doesn't think it is very serious. i think it is very serious. my larger point is national security has to be a larger part of the republican platform. as a political matter it underlines president obama's failures as a leader. failures internationally. failures domestically. >> greta: selfishly it means we still have you to come in and talk to us easily. hard to get candidates roaming around the nation. ambassador, nice to see you with >> thank you. >> greta: if you call yourself a tea party activist, brace yourself, you just got slammed again. who this time? we'll tell you. plus congressman allen west is next. and donald rumsfeld is here. >> he's no ordinary dog, skyrocketing to celebrity status. stay tuned. now, when you want powerful wifi, you've got it.

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tea party? a slew of democratic leaders have been lambasting the tea party over the past several months. did you hear what jimmy hoffa said? he claims tea party members have launched a war on

american workers. he rallied a group of party. >> we have to keep an eye on the battle we face, a war on workers. you see it everywhere it is the tea party. there's only one way to beat and win that war. the one thing about working people is we like a good fight. >> greta: hoffa didn't stop there. >> president obama, this is your army. we are ready to march. president obama, we want one thing, jobs, jobs, jobs jobs, jobs, jobs jobs be jobs! that's what we are going to tell him. -- when he sees what we are doing here he will be inspired. but he needs help. everybody here has got to vote if we go back and keep the eye on the prize let's take these son of a bitches out and give

america back to america where we belong. >> greta: what does the tea party have to say about this? joining us congressman allen west a member of the tea party caucus. your thoughts? >> what you see happening is the liberal progressive side is following the playbook of saul lewinsky's book for radicals, pick a quartet, freeze it, isolate it and attack it. when you look at the debt, deficit, job situation that is not going anywhere they have to have someone to scapegoat. the ones they feel are the best to scapegoat is the tea party movement. >> greta: in reading it, it didn't sound so fiery. that -- this is the first time i've heard [ unintelligible ] as rough as it is, politics rough. people say mean, fiesty things to each other all the time. i don't find that nearly as bad. i think it is getting ed up

and saying something stupid as i did what congressman carson said he said the tea party would like to see black americans hanging from a tree. >> black americans he was very specific. that's the type of incendiary rhetoric we don't need to have. i was born and raised in georgia we don't need to conjure up those type of images. anyone who doesn't understand what the tea party is about. if you don't agree, then i have to ask what do you believe is what made america 235 years. not about big government, that is the threat that the tea party is bringing. think about how the conversation in washington, d.c. has changed from two trillion dollar health care policy and plan to now how much more can we cut back on spending in the growth of the federal government?

that's a threat to people that believe in big government. >> greta: in terms of the discussion about hoffa is he was insulting and stupid, i thought, nasty. but it is not as big a problem as the racism. that's really dirty politics. >> you don't want to stir that up. the last thing we need is to go 2012 and start trying to create racial tension as we go into election in 2012. i think that's what is happening when you hear someone like maxine waters talk about the tea party can go to hell l. >> greta: that is dopey too, that makes her look bad. >> i think the summation of all three, especially andre carson's is concerning to us. we have to get away from that. which is something the president said we were going to tone down this rhetoric in january. growth get he was on the stage 20 minutes after hoffa said that he wasn't there, his

colleagues could have told him about it and he could have said something but he didn't. >> he still has not said anything. >> greta: you are right. thursday night are you going to his speech? >> of course. i think you should be there any time the president is willing to talk. i'm very concerned about what his points are going to be. if it is going to be a retread of the same talking points. i would like to see the president give us something in writing. give us a plan that we can study and maybe bring it up to vote. another speech is not what the american people need right now. >> greta: are you optimistic that he is going to come armed with something different? i reluctantly use the term armed. >> i'm military, it is okay. >> greta: do you expect them to come with a specific plan or just talk? >> based upon what i heard him say in detroit, it is going to be the same talking points. i think it is something to poll lore rise this argument by putting -- polarize this

argument putting the house republicans on the defense. he's going out campaigning and say these individuals aren't accepting my plan, albeit a very bad plan. >> greta: is this a campaign speech -- >> it is absolutely a campaign speech. if it was about policy and doing the right thing just put it on a piece of paper and send it to us. >> greta: nice to see you. news the white house is planning a huge troop withdrawal from iraq. we ask donald rumsfeld about that, next. >> he won three super bowl titles and named to the pro bowl eight times. emmitt smith just added another title to his name. he goes on the record in a few minutes. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea,

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>> greta: 10 years later, is america a safer place? a couple days from the 10th anniversary of 9/11. today we sat down with donald rumsfeld we asked about a possible troop withdrawal from iraq. all but 3,000 troops will be left in iraq by the end of the year. here is former defense secretary donald rumsfeld. hard to believe it is 10 years since 9/11. >> it is amazing. it is a good thing we are marking that day. because we can remember the people who were lost there. their families, their friends. and how fortney we have been

that we've passed a whole decade almost where we -- haven't had a successful attack on america. >> greta: in the media, how do you honor the day, not exploit it and not tell the terrorists that they got us? >> i suppose there is a there in one's mine. it was the -- in one's mind. i was the largest attack on america inside of our country. it lead to a new set of steps to try to protect the american people. a different way of looking at it, instead of thinking we can defend what you can't defend against a terrorist, every place at every moment of the day or night against every conceivable technique. but we had to put pressure on them. thus far, it has been quite successful. >> greta: that's the bush doctrine, the preemption, pretty much? >> i wouldn't use the word

preemption. making everything they do difficult. making it harder for them to raise money. harder to talk to each other. harder to move between countries. harder to fan a country that will tolerate them and -- to find a country that will tolerate them. harder to train. we don't have metrics to know how successful we've been in terms of reducing their recruiting or fundraising. but we do know that while they've had some successful attacks elsewhere in the world, in the last decade, they've not been successful here. >> greta: do you have a sense the obama administration has that strategy? libya, the go to the -- prevent it from happening in the future or not. >> i think libya is different. they argued that on humanitarian terms not on terrorism. although, he had been a sponsor of terrorism, to be sure. no, i think what they did was they campaigned again the bush approach.

once they got in they realized the 90 nation coalition that was put together was successful in sharing intelligence and tracking bank accounts and cooperating against terrorism. and they ended up keeping guantanamo open not because they like it. we didn't like it either, but they couldn't think of a better solution. the same with the patriot act and military commissions and indefinite detention. all of those things were criticized but today are still in place 2 1/2 years later. because they are the best alternative to the other choices. and they are in fact, successful in keeping america safer. >> greta: you pointed outccczfãa piece of a plan that -- a piece of the plane that hit -- >> indeed. i picked that up the morning of the attack. >> greta: it is unbelievable what happened. you could feel the building

shake on the 11th? >> i could. immediately went down the hall until the smoke was so bad, outside, around the corner, the grass was covered with pieces this size, off that enormous airplane which had been loaded with jet fuel and crashed into the building at 500 miles-an-hour. there were very few pieces that couldn't be put in the back of a pick-up truck it had been so totally exploded. there were people, the building was burning, as you know, well. smoke filling it. >> greta: president bush thought he would be a different president. probably would be the education present. one day that changed and he became a wartime president. were you secretary of defense. probably didn't think you would be a wartime secretary of defense. >> certainly didn't. interesting footnote in

history is that secretary mcnamara in his confirmation hearing was never asked a word about the -- dick cheney in his hearing for second tea of defense was never asked a word about iraq. yet the iraq war -- i was never asked about afghanistan or al-qaeda in my confirmation hearing. so, it suggests that the -- a president and his cabinet are faced with the way the world works and they have to live with that. you are right, president bush i'm sure came in thinking he would be focused on domestic issues. >> greta: you mentioned vice president cheney there's been a lot in the news about his book and the spat between him and colin powell. there's tension before defense and state for decades. what do you make of that between those two? >> of course, i read about

half his book so far. he had a close relationship with colin powell. when they were in the pentagon in the george herbert walker bush days. i've not gotten to the last portion of the vice president's book yet, i'm looking forward to reading it. s , other than there are in a national security council, as you point out, there were difficulties teen -- teen schlessinger and kissinger, they represent different view points, perspectives. i of course worked with both during that period. as well as with secretary rice when she moved over there. i just haven't had a chance to read that portion of the book. >> greta: vice president chen nay lied for a fellowship with you? >> he did. >> greta: you didn't take him?

>> i didn't. i was looking for a lawyer he was a budding academic at the time. that was probably in the first my fourth term in congress. he was -- just won a fellowship he was one of several who apply. i ended up taking in a lawyer. about four months later i hired him at the office of economic opportunity after i went into president nixon's cab get. >> greta: so it all worked out. >> it did and we worked together off and on i in business and we went to congress. -- i went in business and he went to congress. he's a fine man. >> greta: there's been a fox news report that president obama has decided to draw down iraq troops to 3,000 by the end of the year. there's some generals who are deeply disturbed.

senator graham is upset about that. what is your thought on drawing down to 3,000? >> i would have to hear what was said and what the decision was and what the remaining 3,000 are going to be doing there and what the attitude, i don't know what the attitude of the iraqi government is. there's been difficulties there between the u.s. government the obama administration and the iraqi government. i don't know about what their understandings are. >> greta: how about ahmadinejad, do you think he's standing by waiting to go in? >> certainly the iranians are attempting aggressively to increase their influence in the world, certainly in the region. they are supporting various terrorist organizations, working with the government of syria. they are making difficulties for us in iraq, to be sure. they make difficulties in afghanistan as well. i don't know that the draw down will necessarily change

their posture for the worse. they are already behaving in a way that is notably unhelpful to the iraqi people and the coalition of countries that have been helpful to iraq. >> greta: there's much more of our interview with donald rumsfeld. he talks about osama bin laden weather and the future of al-qaeda. go to gretawire.com to watch the entire interview. you may know him as an nfl superstar or as a graceful dancer. there is something else about emmitt smith you may not know, but you will. emmitt smith goes on the record, next. and we'll tell what they are doing, straight ahead. ♪ [ country ]

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in carson city, nevada. four killed, including two national guardsmen. investigators say the gunman eduardo sencion opened fire with an ak-47 before taking his own life. he was not in the military but well armed. police found another rifle and pistol in his van. >> devastating wildfires plaguing texas blamed for four deaths. the flames have consumed 1,000 hopes. dry conditions sparked 180 fires in the past week. 20 more homes are being threatened tonight with a new fire in parker county. local fire marshal says it has already burnt 60 acres and is moving quickly. i'm ainsley earhardt. back to greta. >> greta: the name emmitt smith probably makes you think football. he won three super bowl rings. nfl's all time leading rusher.é staggering eight times. the former super bowl mvp

strutted his moves on the dance floor, taking home the coveted trophy on "dancing with the stars." now emmitt smith is adding another title, author. joining us is former nfl star "game on find your purpose, pursue your dream." nice to see you emmett. >> greta it is a pleasure. how are you? >> greta: i'm waefpl is the secret. you are not the biggest running back the most rushing yards what is your secret. physically you shouldn't have had all those big regards. -- big records. >> the secret is not listening to the naysayers talking about how big you are, how small you are. the way i grew up it was like this, the bigger you are the harder you fall. good things come in small packages. i took advantage of that. i had this vision i wanted to become a professional athlete. it took steps and a plan of action and a lot of people

believing in me, giving me the guidance and wisdom i needed to an chief my goals. >> greta: in reading your book, at age 7 you wanted to play for the cowboys, am i right? >> i was laying on the floor my family members we were watching the football game i blurted out to my father some day i'm going to be this and give my momma that. i was one of those kids. for me, my father didn't shun me, he just said that's a great idea for you son, that sounds go. go make it a go and maybe some day you will become that person you want to become. for me, i strived very hard to try and achieve a level of greatness that would be pleasing not only for myself but also for my family. >> greta: what is most amazing you were such a huge star on the football field. after that, a lot of people

might after you get older and can't play night hit the skids a little bit. you just went out and won "dancing with the stars." and you've written a book. to be able to take it to the next level, once you have achieved success and not sort of just hang it up at that point is extraordinary. >> one thing about athlete, we will retire either very young or somewhere in the middle age of 30s or somewhere in there. you have to reinvent yourself. you have to figure out what are you going to do for the rest of your life? for me football was a vehicle to get me to one place and it did successfully. i was very pleased with what i was able to accomplish on the feel. retiring at the age of third -- at 35 meant that if god blesses me with the longevity of living to 84, 85, 86, 90, that's a long time. i have to find something to fill that space and void. i got five kids and a wife at home.

i could concentrate on them. at some point in time, daddy has to continue to provide food, shelter, put food everything on the table so everybody can have the lifestyle that we're customed to. that's what i'm trying to do everyday of my life. i'm also trying to give back to my community. >> greta: at age 35 to have to reinvent yourself, you carried the ball you must have aches and pains. that's the one who walks with aches and pains to take it and not think my life is over and you see so many athletes who made a lot of money all of a sudden they come to a grinding halt. you reached down within and took it to the next level. and so positive and difficult haven't and you see this in your book. >> to me, your attitude determines your altitude. you are right i'm very positive about life. positive about a lot of different things. i try to have a positive outlook on the worst

circumstances. those are some of the things that football has taught me. i'm trying to apply those things not only in my business but my everyday life. with the proper attitude, planning out your plan and executing against your plan will give you a chance to get into the game. get back into the game and then not only that, but give awe opportunity to be successful if you surround yourself -- with the proper people that give you more guidance, i've always reached out to people like roger staubach, irvin johnson, jerry jones to get advice from those people who have been successful in business and try to those techniques that they give me back into my own life. >> greta: i'm going to take the last word. my favor quote from tim brown, emmett i love you but i don't ever want to see you in tights. congratulations on your new book emmett. >> thank you greta. >> greta: straight ahead, new world record being made leaving thousands gasping!

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