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way down on the polls, they just lost two key special elections and the predent is going on offense with the only weapon he has got. a $460 billion tax boon do go will he called the american jobs act. >> tell them, tell them that if you want good job, pass this bill. if you want construction workers back on the job, pass this bill. 'you want teachers back in the classroom, pass the jobs bill. >> but from the tea party to the president. how about this. >> i have a message for this president, if you are for job creation you can't be against a job creator. pass it now. if you want to be a in favor of jobs, passion this bill now. >> pass this bill now. senator rand paul is bill by republicans that will send the

nas labor relations board and send it to the department of justice. despite all the president's assurances to the contrary, the activists is doing his bidding by blocking job creation at a boeing plant in south carolina and by preponderating burdensome regulations like pro union posters in every company in the land. which is a better start for getting best on track? let's talk to problem johnson, he a businessman, no at career politician and he is serious about small government. senator johnson, it's a pleasure you are, welcome back to freedom watch? >> judge, thank you for having me on. >> what is your initial reaction to the president's half trillion dollar, this would be the third round of stimulus spending?

is it dead on arrival even in the senate controlled by his own party? >> we've already heard a number of democratic senators basically say it was code arrival. it's more of the same, judge. the first stimulus didn't work and the elements that are tried right now, the tax cut which hasn't worked. economic growth in the first quarter was .4% and second quarter, 1%. these tried and failed policies. the only thing would accomplish on would put us another $450 billion in debt that our children and grandchildren -- no, we need to get government off of our backs. get the nlrb off of our backs all these agencies that are on hyper drive, let's get them to stop. the regulation moratorium that would stop all future

regulations and until unemployment drops when president obama took office which would be 7.8%. give job creators a chance to breathe. >> i want our viewers the person to whom i'm speaking is not like his 99 colleagues in the senate. you are not a career politician. you are a small business person. you are the personification of risking money in order to create jobs. you understand better than any of your colleagues that only people by you em powld with risk and creativity can create jobs. what will it take for the president to understand, the government doesn't create jobs. it destroys and consumes wealth. only private investment creates wealth. >> it's the american people and private sector make jobs. unfortunately the don't think he is going to get it.

he had his chance. he has blown it. what we need to do is we need to remove the uncertainty, we have to reinstill confidence in consumers. we all these see this $4 trillion debt that he has added to our nation's debt. we realize when you have that level of spending, eventually the government is going to tax you or inflation is going out of control. businesses ke a look at the horizon and don't see the economy growing. they don't see the businesses expanding. they are not going to hire people and consumers are really scared. they are holding on to their money because they kneopt what is going to happen. we have to remove uncertainty and restore confidence. >> businesses don't make decisions for the next six to 12 months and they have a right what tax rate is going to be, inflation is going to be and what the government is going the

to require of them. but the way the president wants to fay for this is raising taxes on those who earn more than $250,000 a year. it was rejected by the senate controlled by the democrats just a year ago. he just keeps trying and trying to change to change the future. we will forever have uncertainty and that will cause people not to take risks. >> judge, it shows you how unserious the president is about coming to a solution. how he is not negotiating in good faith. she demanding a republican congress that he couldn't get when he had a majority in the senate. let's face it on, you show me a tax increase that creates jobs or grows our economy. it might consider it that is a problem. tax increases will harm our economy and inhibit job growth and that is why we shouldn't be

supportive of them. >> how unfair is the nlrb to resolve in an efficient way without going to go the courts disputes between labor nor the nlrb to order every corporation in the country to put big posters in the workplace telling people how they can join unions? >> obviously not particularly fair. but an effort to regulate card check and what is really going to be damaging if decrease the amount of time that businesses have to respond in case there is an organizing effort. businesses should be given enough time to talk to their employees, to educate what union dues will do and what a union and effect on workers. that is the with one of the worst things they are trying to push, decreases go the time they

have to respond. >> do you think the republican leadership and you and i have talked about this, caved to the president on raising the debt ceiling reelection cave once again because of that sort of congenital urge that politicians have to be able to say to the public that they are doing something, even if the thing they are doing is not going to help the economy in the long run. do you expect mitch mcconnell and boehner to say, hey, we got to vote for this. we have to make everybody look good. >> judge, in fairness, we only control the house. we don't control the senate. when one party is in control the senate, they totally control the senate. in our government right now things have evolved in order to accomplish something, we need presidential leadership and president obama has not led at all. his budget lost zero to 97.

they haven't passed a budget in over two years. that is stunning statement of lack of leadership. i really want to place the blame where it should lie and that is with the president and democrats and senate. republicans are trying. the house passed the ryan budget they passed cap and balance but we can't get it moved in the senate. >> is social security a ponzi scheme? >> you know, i refer to it, a lot of liberals including paul krugman. the bottom line, look at the facts. social security as a 17 trillion unfunded liability. the trust fund is made up of ious it's a pay as you go system which is close to what a ponzi scheme. i know it's not illegal because the government is doing it b if a private investment advisor it would be called a ponzi

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states against al-qaeda and new book reveals details that has never been told if they had been shared among u.s. intelligence agencies, the world would be a different place today. here is author of black banner "the inside story of al-qaeda. ali, welcome to freedom watch. let's start out at the basis here. why is the c.i.a. afraid of your book? >> well, i believe there are some people in the agency believe that the book contains some classified information. this classified information has been redacted. i have a problem with this because the book went through an f.b.i. publication process and after three months, they released the book to me without one single redaction. >> is it fair to argue, that they wanted certain things

redacted, i just happened to open up to this page you be actually see all the blackouts they made you put in here because it embarrassed them? >> there is possibility that embarrassed the ones already out there. what i'm trying to do in this book i'm trying to say to the american people and to the world in a very secure manner, that is book was approved by the f.b.i. what happened. what happened before 9/11. what led to 9/11. what our successes after 9/11 and failures after 9/11. i think there are some people that have a problem with that narrative. >> you were intimately involved in intelligence all over the world. you describe instances dinner in new york city and beeper goes off and you reply to the message and you have to fly 10,000 miles the next day. this the life you led in the years up to and following 9/11. what was the greatest failure

pre-9/11, if it had not occurred but prevented 9/11 from happening? >> information sharing between the c.i.a. and isi f.b.i. >> and especially to the f.b.i. agents that was investigating, u.s.s. cole attack in yemen that resulted in 17 sailor deaths. >> was there political pressure from politicians, operatives coming out of the white house basically saying the white house does not want certain information known or certain people prosecuted or certain documents linked or certain allegations made by the u.s.s. cole? >> i don't know how far it goes up. the only thing i know working on the u.s.s. cole as early as november of 2000. we found about a meeting that took place in southeast asia. two people that were involved

with the cole attended the motorcycle and one was a suicide bomber. we were looking at these people all over the world and we have a team working under harsh conditions in yemen trying to bring justice to though 17 sailors. and two people were in the united states. we are looking important people overseas and september 12th i was handed a file these two guys were on plane on flight 77 that hit the pentagon. and the conclusion 9/11 commission, one of the first findings they did if the c.i.a. passed information to us to the people who were investigating the cole we could have probably did something. >> so long before 9/11 did you ask about the file, that you got the day after 9/11? >> we asked about that meeting, if they have any knowledge about that meeting. first written request.

in the federal government, it's not paper, so the official request on paper went to the c.i.a. was in november 2000. >> tell me about the interrogation of abu zubida when suddenly the c.i.a. entered the picture and what did they do? >> we had a joint session. and it wasn't f.b.i. versus c.i.a. it was a joint team and we were doing on a great job. he actually provided information to us that was shocking at that point. and mastermind of 9/11 and before the interrogation and we had outside contractors appearing to take over. techniques they were using at the time and this is again a interrogation techniques was shocking to us.

matter of fact the c.i.a. officer, senior officer left before i left in protest. >> to the acts of physical abuse that the contractors were conducting on abu? >> absolutely. i don't believe -- as i explain clearly in the book everything we've been told about interrogation techniques happened way before waterboarding and i was there. the time line if you look at the logical way everything has been declassified. >> so necessity obtained information using what i call torture and in reality that information was obtained by f.b.i. agents using normal interrogation? >> absolutely, sir. >> ali, its great book. the black banner, inside story of 9/11 and the war against al-qaeda. it will keep you up at night.

the story didn't make you think about 9/11, my next guest will. he is calling on the administration, the obama administration to take a fresh look at 9/11 because all potential specks were not investigated here is bob graham who chaired the senate intelligence committee in aftermath of 9/11. it's a pleasure, welcome to freedom watch. why do you want the federal government ten years after the event, four years after the 9/11 commission report was accepted by the congress to open up the investigation of what happened before, during and immediately after 9/11? >> judge, old news such as the fact the final report of the congressional inquiry contained a 28-page chapter on the role of the saudis in 9/11 which was censored from word one to the last word. it is therefore been withheld

from the american people. i would like that to be released and new situation in sarasota, florida, it's beginning to be increasing information that three of the hijackers including atta who was the lead hijacker had a serious of contacts with a saudi family of some wealth and prominence lived in a gated community in sarasota in the months before 9/11 and on august 30th, 2001, that family en masse under rush circumstances left the united states to go back to saudi arabia. were they tipped off and left because they were told it's better that you not be here? >> you were once the chair of a congressional committee investigating 9/11. in that capacity you had shown to you classified documents you were allowed to read and absorb

and not reveal. you are knotted now of the view that the 9/11 commission and your own committee didn't look at everything that was out there and might be some people that were involved in this who got away scott free. does the government know who these people are and they got away scott free? >> i hope they do. what we know about san diego which is the place that your previous guest was talking about was largely learned because of some curious investigators not because the f.b.i. had told us what they knew about what was going on in san diego. a similar pattern seems to be occurring now in sarasota. we're learning things for the first time that should have been made available back immediately after 9/11 in many instances to the public but to those that had a responsibility to make a full

inquiry as to what had happened. >> senator graham, michael shoyer who a former career officer and hunt for osama bin laden for 15 years has called the 9/11 commission a whitewash from top to bottom. do you agree? >> i can speak for our joint congressional inquiry. i thought was very thoroh examination based on the information that either we received as we should have or that we found. i still think there are significant unanswered questions such as why did these people from san diego and sarasota who had been involved with the hijackers immediately before 9/11, what's motivation of saudi government to give this level of assistance? why has the united states gone to such lengths to cover it up?

>> senator graham, thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much, judge. >> next guest wrote the book on crony capitalism. the alliance between solar power plant so lynn dra and white house. charlie gasparino is here next. now, when you want powerful wifi, you've got it. with aerizon mobile hotspot, you can connect up to 5 wifi devices to the internet

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evidence is piling up the president may go down in history as most prolific crony capitalist. he touted his jobs act to a company that outsourced half their jobs to costa rica. he happens to be a big donor to president obama and no doubt you heard about the solyndra scandal. the collapse came after clear warning signs from the start. warnings the white house chose to ignore. here to explain is senior correspondent charlie gasparino who wrote the book "bought and paid for." so we're looking at these e-mails that came out today and the first one, it startled me. it's from somebody on vice president biden's stance we would prefer to have sufficient time to do our due diligence

reviews. what the heck do federal bureaucrats know about doing due diligence to find a corporation worthy of investment? >> the problem when you have crony capitalism, we should point out every administration in my adult lifetime that i covered was involved with crony capitalism. this administration has taken it to an extreme, as they have taken much of their other economic. >> would you define it as? >> it's when the government picks the businesses that are supposed to grow the economy. >> so how does the government who is investing other people money, taxpayer dollars, decide whether it's worthy? >> it's a political model. these political choices. why are they picking, forget the company gave campaign contributions to the president, right?

>> principal investor was guy that ran a hedge fund. >> of course it's a hedge fund. they love this guy. i talked about the how the green industry was big for obama because they saw the subsidies and this is what you have. you not just have crony capitalism because campaign contributions -- because it's a favored industry of the president. economic decisions are being made to a political basis. >> here is what aggravated a lot of people in congress, they do a refinancing after the first tronch of half a billion and refinancing if anything goes wrong the investors get their money back before the government does. does the government put somebody ahead of it when it's investing in an enterprise? >> really.

before we were doing this, i wouldn't think it's illegal scandal, does it sound bad. >> it sounds very bad. >> like they all knew what was going on, one of president's buddies to get repaid at the extension of the american taxpayer. >> that is goes beyond crony capitalism to u.s. attorneys should be investigated. >> we know they raided the place last week. >> hopefully, u.s. attorney not an unbiased figure appointed by president obama. [ laughter ] >> it's a game of cops and robbers where the cops are the robbers. find out why the police targeted one business by taking cash, computers, wallets and even a dignity even though the business didn't break a single law. we crack this case with the freedom files next. sides of use.

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a few items from our freedom files. federal law prohibits the c.i.a. from operating within the united states and spying on americans in the united states but recent reports the c.i.a. may have been doing just that. in the wake of 9/11 11th attacks they developed their new intelligence division to train and nypd detectives at the farm, the agency's spy school.

now comes word that the c.i.a. is launching an internal review of the own involvement to determine whether there was any wrongdoing. all right, how can the c.i.a. whose job it is to keep secrets be entrusted to investigate itself? only a subpoena and prosecutor can handle this one. and what the freedom for jumping an airport line. it's just under 10 as the. phil was stuck in a line when a uniformed agent waved him over to a screening station suggesting she would take care of him. desperate to avoid an hour long wait and he offered her five dollars. after offering a few more bucks all in view of other uniformed personnel, he made it through the security line in time to

catch his plane. it was unclear if this was isolated incident but yet another example of just how low tsa has sunk. finally when you have a robbery you normally call the police but who should you call when you robbed by the police? that is what happened at a strip club in texas. local police raided the club but failed to find any drugs they told a judge under oath were there when they obtained a search warrant for the judge. despite the failure they walked off $1500 and tokens and computer and backpacks and one of club managers wallets. let me repeat the police found no evidence of wrongdoing at the club. yet they seized and stole assets anyway. club has filed a lawsuit against the city asking for monetary damages and to have their property returned as it should be.

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department of trachbs important station delayed a deadline that would require every municipality in the country to replace traffic signs that comply with new federal regulations. but they would have to comply with these federal laws such the requirement use a cijs of lower case letters with an initial upper case letters and they must be four and a half to six inches in height. another overbearing requirement from washington. joining me, one of his favorite subjects, is the president of

the rand institute. you are welcome here. with everything but here is the other side. without central planning who would collect the garage and put up the street signs? >> what an idea. private initiatives. neighborhoods would get totaling they would be competing forces and developers would develop the street. no, there is very little other than the basic functions of government, the right to life. >> liberty in the pursuit of happiness, to protect us from fraud. we don't need government. everything else the market can take its place private initiatives can fill in those gaps. >> one of your strongest beliefs pillar of the rand institute is the morality of expect a vandalism. what is moral about the free market? what is immoral about using force to interfere with the free

market? >> what leads individuals pursue the happiness that is in the declaration of independence. we believe morality is about the individual pursuing their life, being the best you can be. these are going to make the happiest you can be. what the government does, central planning does, it says no, we know what fochb t that make make you happier and we know the vegetables, we the government knows what you should buy and eat. we know what medical care you should take. what the government does in central planning, why it's immoral, it interferes with individuals to make rationale choices based on their own evaluation. >> how is it a government will recognize for the most part like

freedom of speech, but will not recognize or protect my freedom of trade and will think it can interfere with me when i want to trade for dollars or goods or services? >> i think that has a long history in the west of suspicion of money, suspicion of wealth and suspicion of business. hate is to do with the fact that we in the west resent the notion of self-interest. pursuit of trade is clearly, founders understood this but the moral code that we have grown up in the west is all about self-sacrifice, self-denial. that is what morality is about. rand rejects that. the pursuit of rationale self-interests is moral, is what morality is about. that is why the pursuit of profit is morally just and good.

>> if only the government would agree with that. thanks for joining us. and growth tactic when we fly the friendly skies but we may have to pay the government, too? can freedom fighters make a case for privatizing airline security? ( grunting )

bank of america has suffered a rollercoaster year with more bad news with tens of thousands of layoffs to come but one thing they won't have to worry about is portfolio of 400,000 mortgages of unpaid balance of $73 billion. guess who owns them? the government. fannie mae and freddie mac bought them up for $500 million. what a bargain. fan if i may, the federal housing agency are keeping quiet and details of this one. but what we do know is bank of america gave a handful of other banks to bid on the mortgages and no one wants to touch them. that is story. here to discuss freedom fighters my friend sondra smith. lynn and charles, the radio talk

show host and dollar meltdown. okay, what is this, the government buying these bad mortgages from the bank? >> i think it's important to realize, it's the servicing. in any case its sweetheart deal. it's not fair for the taxpayers to be bailing out private banks like bank of measuring. its strong argument for financial reform. >> why are the taxpayers, charles, out bidding private enterprise for these horrible under performing mortgages and sits the decision of the taxpayers which really means some fannie mae, an economic decision or political decision? >> how long is it going on. all these losses are transferred to the people whether on the balance sheet of fed so it's profits for the bank, and it's

povlt for the people. it goes on over and over again. and you think it's the light at the end of the tunnel and fannie mae just went to the treasury for another 5.1 bye because they are broke. they just reported a $3 billion loss just in the last quarter. where did they get the money to do this. >> sandra, isn't this organize bli one of causes for the real estate meltdown, using his words in 2008, fannie mae and freddie mac do all the loans you want? >> absolutely. in this situation could get a lot worse. we're all on hook for this. this think about this, in the present job proposal plan, he proposes we have more refinancing help out there. and not just the mortgages but the servicing rate on those mortgages. if that bill passes we see the values go way down and we're on

the hook for it. >> let me see if i can find common ground between a libertarian and a liberal democrat. isn't it wrong to use taxpayer dollars to bail out the errors for big bavg go and big business? >> i think you make a point. it's not about that but it's the bank versus everybody else. american people are tired of being on the hook for things. >> six banks are took a look at this and they walked away. >> and it's going to be more expensive to fly. senate appropriations committee hiked airline security fees to give cousin janet to give money in the security budget. private companies are actually forced to pay for the tsa. i got to tell you, the research on this segment, i did not know that the airlines themselves

have to pay the tsa, but they do. >> this is very problematic for two reasons, one is that they are never going to acknowledge when capacity is going down and less people and they are going to credit back these private companies. two, this is the government punishing success. these airlines have figured a way to make money. we may not like it because we're paying more and they are successful, and they are trying to get something else. shouldn't the airlines be the ones that take care of the passengers and property? don't they have more of an interest than the government does? and can't they do it less expensive and less intrusive job of it? >> we have some sort of failure in the replication of the freedom gene in america. if the american people don't understand it. government is rewarded by failure, bigger budgets, everybody moves up in the bureaucracy but failure for a private company is a very costly

thing. so we've got shift the burden and make the people responsible for the success of the airline and make them responsible for the security of the airlines, as well. >> do you acknowledge that private ewt price would do a better job of securing assets the human beings that pay for services and equipment in which it invests the money. just the other day, tsa were found charging ten bucks to move at the head of the line? >> there are problems when the private sector has been involved in security. security is something we all want. whether we fly or democrat or republican, we all want planes to arrive on time. >> i can't avoid the tsa unless i'm as rich as charles and have a private jet. i would more likely to use an airline. why ka shouldn't i have that choice? >> this is something because it benefits all people, this is reasonable use of government

power. >> where does it prove from. central planning don't work. when does improvement come from if the airlines can't do more efficient means to provide security? in a centrally planned international airport. >> thanks for joining us. >> patti: i'm greg generator. n.t.s.b. giving an update on crash in reno. let's listen. >> we have investigators on site and on air shows. >> one of those on-site with the investor in charge of this accident. he is what is called the iic, investor in charge. mr. howard flagan.

at about 8:30 this morning. rest of the n.t.s.b. team arrived. first activity was to walk through what had happened so far. we walked the accident site h, a chance to speak with the ntsb investigators at the time of the accident and given updates on current activities. so let me tell you about those current activities. the investigators have isolated the accident site. they have walked the accident scene, which means they've gone through and identified and processed the wreckage. the reno police department and nevada highway patrol is mapping the wreckage area with very high technology gps laser system. runway has been swept and that is in preparation to open up for operation again.

the investigators have also made initial contact with racing team crew. also, as part of n.t.s.b. team that arrived today, we have members of the safety board's office of transportation disaster system and they are here to work with local resources. i really want to emphasize this is just the beginning of this accident investigation. the focus now is on gathering factual information. there will be periodic briefings and you'll be informed by public affairs so we can update you that we learn information over the course of the investigation. i would like to finish by thanking all the first responders for their efforts yesterday and ongoing assistance and support of the ntsb in this investigation. we're going fake a few questions from. we have spokes on the phone, as well. we are open for questions now.

>> what is the latest casualty count? >> first the city of reno will compile fatalities and injuries. we're very fortunate to have deputy chief evans to give you an updated. >> deputy chief, dave adams. >> i'm going through the latest totals that we have. there is no more information that i have at this point that we can update you at a later date. we transported 54 patients to area hospitals. of those 54 hospitals reported two fatalities. we also have a total of 7 fatalities we know on the tarmac that included the pilot. 17 folks are being treated at local hospitals and total of 24 have been treated and released.

that is the very current information that we have at this time. >> yes, correct. thank you. >> so the question is whether a plane like this has any kind of recording device. it's very unlikely. the investigators have raised that question because of the modifications to the aircraft. it's unclear given the impact and the speed whether there is actually going to be anything available but definitely looking for that. (question is inaudible) so the question is, picture and video showing appear to show the piece of aircraft came off. we are aware of that and a component has been recovered

where that was observed, but i think it's critical at this point to know that we have not identified the component. it will be examined so we don't know what the component is or if it even came from this particular aircraft. that is part of the factual information that is going on right now. >> the question is how photos and video will play a role in this investigation. in fact, that is one of the activities that is now going on which is collecting the photo and video information. that will be part of the information that is gathered now and reviewed intensively. just briefly give you a sense when i say this is focused on collecting factual information because right now we are concerned about informational but factual information is brought back to washington, d.c. where the analysis will take

place. to give you a sense, people will only be on site for a few days and then it could take six to nine months for the full analysis to have done. >> do you have more video than usual? >> do we have more video than usual? absolutely. we're looking for the number of people but it seems like there was a tremendous number of cameras and video that was captured. >> a reminder, if you would like a question by phone -- >> they have no questions at this time. so the question is the state of the propeller and what was observe again we've heard those reports,

i think that will be important of the video analysis but it's too early to make any comment about that. with that part of the airplane that is the part that is in question. but that also why to highlight for example even though we recovered a component, we don't know if it was in the aircraft or that is what it is. >> it's just an elevator twin tab but we don't the piece that we have is that component. >> can we identify the altitude and speed? do we have that yet? not at this point.

>> i'm sorry -- so the question is any speculation on why there was no fire at impact. not at this point. i'm going to use that question to also differentiate the ntsb does not speculate. that is part of what we're trying to do is get the factual information so we tell you something, we know it's valid. so that is a good question question absolutely our investigators are looking at that issue. >> so the question is, are we going to be looking at the safety procedures around the shel show. absolutely. we will be looking at the oversight, safety procedures, and anything else that we can look at. our job is to identify what cause