general. he says he was pressured to put a positive spin on a potentially dangerous flaw with satellite company with deep ties to the white house. we will get a report. >> also today two grown daughters of political icons have died both at t age of 51. we will take a look back at their lives and the loved ones they leave behind. >> also a behind the scenes look at some of america's bravest as they prepare to go in harm's way to keep us all safe. captions by closed captioning services >> rick: we begin with a fox news alert. the death toll climbing to nine after an air crash air air race in reno, nevada. this plane climbed and spiraled out of control before slamming into the stands as fans watched in horror. casey stegall is live in reno with the latest. where does the investigation stand at this point. >> they have a lot of work to do

as can you imagine. events like these draw aviation buffs from all over the country there were pilots on the ground who thought that the elevator on the airplane was maybe damaged prior to the accident. the elevator is a flat surface on an airplane oftentimes on the tail that moves up and down allows the pilots to ascend and descend. no officials have confirmed that yet. it will take time some time for the official ntsb investigators to comb through all of the wreckage and determine if that is, in fact, what caused this plane to go down the p-51 mustang can fly at speeds at more than 500 miles per hour. and was used as a long range bomber escort over europe in the latter part of world war ii. it was surreal to see this part of history just fall from the sky. >> it was going up at impossible

angle slightly above verdict call. then the wind was blowing from the west like it is now. instead of coming down on me, it went over to the right east it didding what i call involuntary -- twisted and turned and wham. it was all brown smoke and debris. no fire. >> of course, just terrifying to see it happen in this day and age when people are carrying iphones and blackberries and we have seen that amateur video of the accident that has really been circulated around the world. the ntsb team was flown from reno to washington, d.c. today. they are the primary agency hand lick this investigation. an investigation that could take months to complete. rick? >> rick: casey, what do we know about the pilot i was reading he was a veteran hollywood stunt pilot, right? >> yeah. absolutely. his name is jimmy lee ward, 74 years old.

he has been flying for quite some time. in fact, racing here in reno since 1975. he has more than 120 races that he has competed in around the country. also an accomplished hollywood stunt pilot. he was in the movie amelia that profiled amelia earhardt. sad news, his family was here attending the race and saw this accident with their own eyes. a memorial is being planned for him at the moment. the f.a.a. telling us all of his medical records checked out. all of his airplane maintenance records checked out no doubts our hearts go out to his family terrifying to see his final moments in reno. >> rick: our hearts go out to those families of those killed and severely wounded. casey stegall, thanks. >> in the meantime we have another air show disaster to

tell you about. this one in west virginia. hours ago a small plane bursts into flames after crashing on the runway following a routine stunt. we're told there are no injuries among spectators there and the pilot's condition is still unknown. it happened in the city of martinsburg. the cause of the crash is under investigation. >> rick: switching gears now and white house facing mounting political pressure as a second top fundraiser for the president is linked to a federal loan guarantee program back the now bankrupt alternative energy firm solyndra to the tune of $535 million. solyndra now facing congressional, criminal and separate internal investigations at the energy and treasury departments. former senior advisor to president george w. bush karl rove weighing in on the growing controversy on "fox & friends" this morning. take a listen. look a unanimous decision of the credit committee.

they unanimously recommended against this and we're going to go forward with it i the question is why january of 2009 unanimous don't go with it to sometime shortly thereafter being fast tracked by the new administration, the obama administration and the money given out. >> meanwhile, shocking new details coming to light an b. an air force general's claim that the white house pressured him testimony about a company tied to a democratic donor. doug mckelway has the report from washington. congressional republicans want to know why broad band light squared with very close political connections to the white house was granted a waiver from the fcc last january to construct a satellite based brond band service despite concerns that it could disrupt important communications including g.p.s. systems that guide missiles, troop movements and more. air force general was urged by the white house to down play that disruption to a congressional committee. >> that type of attempt to bias testimony on something that goes

straight to the issue of the heart of our national security is certain whether i of grave certain. >> further raising suspicions phil cohen gives a lot of money gave at love money to the green square project. another invested money in light square. donald gibbs who now serves as u.s. ambassador to south africa had $500,000 investment on light squared. william shelton did not directly state that he changed his testimony under white house pressure but he hinted at his concern. i don't know that it's totally accurate to say there were no concerns. i think this is a very different business plan that was put forward and i do believe we were caught a bit off guard. january, february time frame this year is when we really started to get concern. >> in a statement, the white house said, quoting, there was no attempt to influence the testimony beyond its consistency

with the administration, end quote. light squared believes it's the victim of political pressure of its own. it says it was denied a chance to speak at thursday's hearing. it is including the g.p.s. industry as using partisan politics to kilt competition. arthel? >> doug mckelway thank you very much reporting from washington. >> learning about the deaths of the daughters of two political families kara kennedy has died. 51 years old the oldest child of the late senator edward kennedy. brother patrick says her sister died while at a washington area health club. her health gave out from the strenuous effects she had been receiving for lung cancer. eleanor mondale, the daughter of the former vice president walter mondale has also died and she was also 51 coincidently. a family spokeswoman says that mondale died today at her home in minnesota. she had been diagnosed with brain cancer years ago and our condolences to both families. >> absolutely. we are also getting word about another political passing of note. former republican senator charles percy of illinois has

died in washington at age 91 this according to his son-in-law jay rockefeller. percy represented illinois in the senate for almost 20 years. he was once mentioned as a possible presidential candidate but decided to gerald ford for the republican nomination in 18976. >> pomg using his weekly address to sell jobs plan. the president appealing for public support for 447 billion-dollar bill. is he asking americans to contact their come. >> cut taxes small business in the country and not add to the deficit. it will be paid for. on monday i will lay out my plan for how we will do that how we will pay for this plan and pay down our debt by following basic principles. making sure we live in our means and asking everyone to pay their fair share. but right now we have got to get congress to pass this jobs bill.

and republicans are firing back and the g.o.p. address. congressman peter rostrum of illinois calling on the president to reduce regulations on businesses saying that government rules are choking hiring. take a listen. washington has become a red tape factory with more than 4,000 rules in the pipeline hundreds of which would cost our country $100 million each annually. the disappointing reality is that what may be a faceless regulation to most can have a profound impact on local economies and families like yours. what's important is it that these rules are effective and dependable. job creators should be able to focus on their work not on washington wants busy work. >> you want to talk to the tv and be heard? next week you might get a chance in when fox news and google host a critical g.o.p. debate. you the viewer will actually have a chance to ask the candidates your own questions. plus, can you also choose from a

handful of questions posted by other viewers and vote for which ones you would like answered the most. shannon bream explains the details. >> if you have ever watched a political debate and say why don't they ask what i wanted to know. fox news and google are giving you the opportunity to do just that in our g.o.p. presidential debate thursday, september 22nd. >> hi, i'm brandy, i'm make call. this question for the all the candidates. >> just go to youtube.com/fox news and where it says ask a question, can you text it in or easily upload a video of you in action. >> you can come there with any question you say, hey, this isn't getting asked in the mainstream media. this isn't getting asked on television. i want to know x, y or z. no limits. go to the channel and ask your question right. >> there we have gotten questions from all 50 states on subjects ranging from the debt crisis to gay marriage. and there is still plenty of time to weigh, in until midnight on tuesday. but that is just the first step. >> if you can't think of a

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destroyed many fields and farms and now growers are scrambling to salvage what's left of their harr vessments will the weather cooperate? maria molina is life in the fox weather center. hi marie. >> a hey, rick. we are looking at much improvement as far as the additional precipitation goes in the northeast. this weekend should be dry. clouds and few scattered showers. not a big deal. the big deal right now is those cooler temperatures across the region. we actually have frost advisories across portions of new england and upstate new york meaning you could be waking up in these areas, walking outside early sunday morning to frost on your windshields. i think that is a scary thought. we also have some freeze warnings issued out because some of these temperatures will be dropping to the low 30's or even upper 20's. you are looking at potentially some crops that could be damaged or killed because of these really cold temperatures and hard freeze across the region. that is going to be the possibility tonight across portions of new england in the northeast. otherwise, other areas tonight also looking at chilly temperatures in the 40s across parts of the northern rockies. even the southeast.

only in the 50s in the carolinas and even atlanta, georgia looking at a low in the upper 50s. grab those jacks and even take out the booze already. otherwise, across the central plains, we are getting much needed rainfall. storms are firing up across parts of texas, oklahoma, and even southern kansas. this area has been hit with a hard drought already for the past federal months. some of these norms are bringing in the threat for severe weather there is a tornado watch and severe thunderstorm watch across this region. both of them do doo go until 11 p.m. central time. also a tornado warning across north central parts of oklahoma. one of those counties is alfalfa. i think the other one is grant. something we are looking at. there is rotation with that thunderstorm. there could potentially be a tornado currently on the ground. you know the drill, when these warnings are issued you need to seek shelter immediately to a basement otherwise that drought ongoing across texas and oklahoma. some of these storms are going to be bringing in a little bit of rain a few inches, very beneficial to help out the drought and areas further up to the north also looking at

rainfall across parts of missouri, arkansas, and south of the great lakes. rick? >> rick: maria mow lienna. thank you, maria. >> actually discussing good news from a friend raining in houston. they need the rain in the drought area. glad to hear tt. >> >> fixing america's schools. in new special john stossel looks at innovation in education and what may be holding it back. >> city schools are terrible because of unions like yours i wanted disagree. we have progressed because of unions. >> save our schools. >> three days before the protest march about plans to pay teachers based on how well their students do on tests. the protesters even composed an anti-protest song ♪ work on matt ut math and english >> there is a motive behind all of this extra testing. >> we need to get the

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>> rick: welcome back, let's talk money now. we were doing so well the last couple of years. saving our pennies, putting them in our piggy banks. a new study shows that this year americans are heading for a record $54 billion in credit card debt. up from $9 billion last year. are we headed for trouble all over again? joining us now from bell point asset manage: their chief

strategist there david nelson. good to see you. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> rick: i will make an argument here and you tell me if i am wrong. we always hear about confidence confidence how it's an important role in the economy. if people are spending and charging on their credit cards and raking up this massive debt, is it, perhaps, a good thing, perhaps a sign that something good is coming down the line because feel confident enough to go and spend? >> well, that was really last year's story. and i would say last year that was the case. but right now we are starting to see some red flags clearly the positive metrics that we were seeing when we were paying down debt. those are starting to reverse. we are -- in the second quarter we added 18 billion just for the quarter. and, like you said, you know, the 54 billion that we could see by the end of the year clearly shows that consumers are starting to use credit cards to

live just day to day. >> rick: what are the repercussions of that. for folks out there that might be going and using their credit cards, buying things that they really can't afford, what happens. >> i they thought long and hard about it when it comes down to putting food on the table, clothes on your kid's back, i don't care how much you want to pay down the credit card bill, the card is coming out of the wallet. >> rick: you take it out and you pay cash. >> no. you use the credit card if you don't have cash. think last time you were in the supermarket. listen when the cashier says debit or credit. listen to the customer in front of you. more and more we are hearing the customer in front of us say credit. >> rick: is it too easy? is that the thing? putting food on the table and clothing on your kid's backs is one thing. but it is too easy to throw down that credit card and go and buy things that may not be necessities. >> well, if you are doing it -- it is a necessity and you are just using it for vacation,

that's foolish. but for some on the lower end of the scale they are using it for just day-to-day stuff just to get by. that's a big reversal from what we saw last year. last year it was a different environment. the economy was starting to mend, even couey 2 was starting to work. markets were acting better. spending money in anticipation of better times to come. that's reversed. >> rick: that's reversed. we have spoken you and i over the last couple of years. i remember you being very bullish. >> i was. >> rick: a year august were one of the bullish people i was talking. >> i was very bullish a year ago. we were talking about a soft patch in the economy and we were wrong. the data continued to get worse. we have paralysis in washington and debt crisis in europe. investors are watching markets fluctuate on any given day. the market picture key to this is not getting better. i would have to say at this point what we thought couey 2 was doing something last year

it, seems clear at this point that it did little to provide sustainable growth. >> >> rick: when we talk about qe 2. we are not talking about the queen of england. >> talking about the massive amend of liquidity we put into the system. >> rick: chief strategist from bell point asset management. friend of the show, smart guy all around. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> some of america's most elite soldiers, becoming a u.s. navy seal doesn't happen overnight. hours of grueling training prepare would-be seals for the most dangerous situations that any soldier may face. now, there is one retired marine who helps troops along the way before they join the seals historic ranks julie banderas is in our newsroom with more. >> hi arthel. they help launch seal candidates into a long arduous journey leading to some of the most dangerous combat situations american soldiers must face. for the past 22 years.

alan has volunteered two to three days a week to prepare the elite soldiers of tomorrow. for him, it's a second call to duty to train men and women who are devoted to their country and will some day become veterans just like him one day. >> this is my way of giving back no longer wearing the uniform. my way of serving the country serving them. >> he got choked up there. every time he talked about it, he is so humbled by how grateful these men are to him. he also serve them a hard dose of reality though. this training facility in connecticut, the future seals and marines are put through a combination of call set particulars and military exercises. teaching them how to keep working beyond their physical and mental limits. the candidates say they had be lost without the program. >> we don't take it for granted. and we saver every second of it even though as you say it could look like torture to you inside we are loving every second.

>> i never get the same experience working out on my own. i never push myself as hard as i am when we are work obligor out here. everything we do with instructor is different. never know what's coming and the mental aspect of it too which is the most important part. >> when done, it's off to california for these guys for basic underwater demolition or buds. the six months seals training program by the way only 10% of applicants actually make it through but these guys feel better about their cans because of this camp. arthel? >> so, so impressive what they do. >> yeah. >> thank you, julie. >> rick: coming up, fox news investigates the truth behind iran's real nuclear ambitions. what we have have already dug up about the nuclear program. details on that straight ahead. >> new fallout from the solyndra scandal. why some republicans say the obama creation may be putting even more taxpayer money at risk for greener energy. ♪ it's that not easy being green ♪ having to spend each day the

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>> rick: we are just getting news about a soldier from for the drum who actually served in the 10th mountain division in afghanistan earlier this year. marcum. he had been on the run after leading police through a chase of central new york state he has now been found and captured and is in police custody. private first class marcum was actually involved in a scuffle with a soldier escorting him back to fort drum thursday night. he escaped and ran into the woods and was on the run up until now. again, new york state police confirming that they have captured russell c. marcum. as we get more information we will bring it to you on fox. >> time for a quick check the headlines.

a new video shows the pilot of yesterday's ill fated reno air race talking about his plane months before the crash. jimmy leeward says his team tried to make the plane more arrow i do ma'am mick. he was killed when his world war ii spiraled toward the crowd the exact cause is under investigation. investigators on the scene of another air crash this time in martinsburg, west virginia. the plane there bursting into flames. the pilot's condition unknown. the struggle to secure the libyan capital underway. rebel fighters trying to wipe out what's left of qaddafi's have a jesus' name. rick ache a new controversy over a book that goes inside the obama white house. the book is called confidence men, wall street, washington, and the education of a president. in it the author claims one former staff describes feeling like, quote, a piece of meat.

another even suggests that there is a hostile work environment. molly henneberg has the latest from our washington bureau there are charges in this book it's a boy's club. >> that's how author russ suskind. confidence men, wall street, washington and the education of a president. in the book, according to the "the washington post." us iskind reports former white house communications director anita dunn as saying the white house would fit all of the, quote, classic legal requirements for a hostile work place for women. gund -- dunn told the post yesterday she did not say that it quotes christina romer that she felt like quote a piece of meat boxed out by mayle male senior advisors at meetings. roamer tells the post she can't imagine saying she felt like a piece of meat.

white house has responded by saying books like these tend to be infused with salacious details and pointed to dunn and romer attributed to them in the book. rick? >> rick: is it true there is a republican strategist who is defending the white house on this? >> yes. karl rove, former top advisor to president george w. bush is critical of su skind as a writer. here is more. >> i'm not sure how much of this book is true and accurate. my personal experience with him is that he tends to exaggerate. >> rove says suskind has written about him in inaccurate and unrealistic way. rick? >> rick: molly line in washington. thanks. >> new concerns over a possible solyndra like controversy occurring. the solar energy company was hailed a success by the obama administration, the stimulus program we are talking about receiving more than $500 million worth of federal loans and

firing thousandsed of workers and then filing for bankruptcy. well, now there are new fears that billions of dollars being allocated right now as part of president obama's clean energy program may turn into poor investments. adam dealer is a g.o.p. pollster for new jersey governor chris christie. daily beast columnist and fox news contributor. good to see both of you two. >> good to see you arthel. >> let me talk to you about the this "the washington post" story. commitments for 14 projects. we are talking about $89.3 billion to allocate over the next two weeks. so i ask you in light of what is happening here with the so he solyndra scandal, if you will, should the department of energy hold on to this $9.3 billion or should they stay the course and award the money? >> well, you have to remember that the solyndra only

represented 1% of doe's overall money they were spending. most of the things that they have fund have had done very well. this is the only one that we have really heard about that's been problematic. i don't think that they necessarily to need not go ahead with funding because 1% of their overall portfolio did badly. >> do you see it that way, adam? >> i do not see it that way at all. i think that this is a big problem. and i think that when we think about hall of fame a billion dollars that's one thing. that's the money that went to solyndra. now we are talking about $9 billion. they start to add up. we were talking about essentially giving away $9 billion in taxpayer backed money over the course of the next two weeks. in light of the scandal from an economic standpoint and business standpoint and political standpoint it makes no sense to continue on with this. the administration should say, you know what? time out. we were burned on solyndra. we are going to slow this down and we are going to look at the books and give, perhaps, private

sector tech. maybe bring in people from the bush administration to look at the books. after all the bush administration rejected the loan to solyndra in the last couple of weeks of that administration. >> okay. here's the thing. the bush administration didn't do it. it was a credit committee made up of civil servants. it was the exact same committee that approved the loan application later. so, this is a lot of political posturing. >> wait a minute, kirsten. >> by republicans. >> no, no, no. not by republicans. >> how saw something was wrong with solyndra when, in fact, the credit committee. >> the obama administration is blaming bush. this is what they are doing. that's the talking point. >> what you just said was inaccurate. >> let me jump in here because we are talking about $500 million worth of taxpayer money that went to solyndra and now they turn around and fire 1100 workers and file bankruptcy shortly after getting the money. as you know, the president has put a lot of energy behind creating green jobs and to

develop clean energy technology. i ask you, considering the solyndra scandal, does this impact the president's efforts? the taxpayers don't care if it's 1% of a program or 10% of a program. >> they should care because it matters. second of all, the bush administration created this program. so, i mean that's so ridiculous about this. >> what i just asked you to do, the situation at hand. please answer my question directly. >> i am answering your question directly. the point is it wasn't just so he bama that saw this was important to invest in it. it was also the bush administration. this is an area that we're getting beat on by other countries, mainly china where we do need to have investment into renumber energy and clean energy. this is a bipartisan thing. when i say the bush administration did it, it was good that they did it. >> i want to go over this carefully because i do want to pick up there what kirsten is saying and i want to ask you specifically adam if you agree with the president's plan and his strategy to lessen u.s.

reliance on imported oil and also to, as kirsten is saying to develop technology industry so that we don't -- we are not left behind by other countries. >> so here is the answer, arthel, it's plain and simple. if we want to lessen our dependence on foreign energy let's drill off coast. here is the problem. there is a crony capitalism afoot here. there is the green lobby. you look at the people behind solyndra, it's george kaiser, a huge obama supporter. they get the money wait a minute, now this is a very, very important point. >> adam, make your point. >> the loan is restructured when they figure out that solyndra is in trouble, so, guess what, the investors, the campaign contribute stores get their money back. who doesn't get their money back? taxpayers. we are left holding a bag. that's a problem. >> got it. out of time. in fairness to kirsten, i want to give you 20 seconds. go ahead. >> i just really think is is being hyperpoliticized. the areas that are coworker have nothing to do with whether or not this is a good program.

it is a good program it was a good program when bush started it. it's a good program when obama continued it the issues that people need to be looking at is what was the obama administration in this situation pressuring, you know, people to move forward with the program. that's the question. but this is a good program. and to talk about let's just stop all the money that's going out in this? that's crazy. >> i'm sure they will continue to try to get some answers to what happened there and should the program move forward. kirsten powers, adam geller i have got to run. thank you very much. >> it's been -- >> a lot to cover in a short amount of time. sorry about that guys. we will talk to you next time. >> rick: a political fox news alert now. we're getting word out of washington that the president is going to announce a plan on monday to raise taxes on those americans making more than $1 million a year. it will be called the buffet tax, we're told, after billionaire warren buffet, who has said that he and others who

are very wealthy just like him can afford to have their taxes raised the g.o.p. last pledge nod new taxes. it will be very interesting to see how they respond when the president announces this plan to raise taxes on those making more than $1 million a year, a plan he is set-to-announce on monday. >> we will stay tuned. meantime, federal investigators serving for crews after deadly crash air race in nevada. the latest from the scene and what can be done to raise safety standards at these types of events. that's coming up next. nuous amo. only one calcium supplement does that in one daily dose. citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal.

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but sparing the spectators below. joining us is robert mark. good to see you. sorry it's under these circumstances. >> good to see you, too. >> rick: would you take your family to one of these air shows. >> i have. they go through extraordinary work to make these as safe as possible of course what people need to understand the people watching the show are almost never even remotely close to where the aircraft normally are this is one of those freak situations. so many pilots, forget about the spectators. so many pilots have been killed over the years. 20 pilots have been killed. is this acceptable to you as a pilot? i think that people that do in this are in a different kind of challenge than i am for certain. let's be serious, people have been racing cars, accidents at nascar and indy and places like that for years.

and it's pretty much the same thing. >> rick: yeah, but these planes are 50, 60, 70 years old. what do they do? how do they outfit these planes to sort of get them ready for these kind of events and should, perhaps, should that be rethought? >> well, of course these are vintage airplanes. this was unlimited classes they call it. and these are old world war ii airplanes. they are pretty much gutted though. i mean, they have almost everything new on them and they are checked to make sure they are in good shape. it does look though, from this one, that the national transportation safety board is saying that something did come off of one of the controls at the airplane just prior to the fact -- just prior to the impact. >> rick: yeah, some kind of mechanical issue that i don't quite understand. but the varies are looking into into -- investigators are looking into it do you think overall robert they need to make some changes, maybe make the safety rules a little bit more strict in these kind of events? >> i think they probably will. i mean, this was one of those

portions of the track or i should say the course where there was maybe a split second that this pilot was in a position that if anything had gone wrong he would have, you know, been involved with the crowd. that's unfortunately when this happened. but my guess is they are going to move the crowd further back at this point. >> yeah. well, you know, having been to an event like this before, they are so exciting. it's thrilling to watch these planes, you know, perform, these feats would be a shame to stop them all together. we appreciate you coming on. robert's web site is jet wyandot come. robert mark thanks so much. >> you are welcome. >> rick: arthel is out on the plaza. >> whether you are getting breaking news you are getting reports on or just tweeting your friends or updating. texting your mom like i'm doing right now, everybody has a smart phone. but which one is the right phone for you? we'll tell you. possibly after this break. stick around, guys. ty

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>> welcome back. new generation of these high tech gadgets. which one was right for you? >> rick: folks at "consumer reports" have broke it all down for us in the latest issue. thanks very much for coming, in mike. good to see you.

arthel, thank you for holding the microphone so beautifully. all right. these are android phones. >> that's right. >> rick: that means they work on the google operating system. >> that's correct. >> rick: these are your two favorites. >> these are the two newest android phones. they highlight what's the best in telephone technology right now, cell phone technology. ultra fast processors so-called dual core. run on 4 g. some of them have extra special tricks like for example the lg thrill that you are holding now only $100 on at&t. just had that here. has 3-d capability. if you notice rick is holding it up. there is a prerecorded 3-d. now you don't need special glasses to see the 3-d image here. you can switch between 2-d or 3-d images. access to 4 g network and dual core processor. fastest you can have on the

phone today. >> why do i need a 3-d phone? >> if you want to get an in-depth look at your movies. great for games. comes with several games on it? >> is angry birds on there? >> no. angry flock. no, i'm sorry. >> what else do you have? >> this, too. this may be the fastest phone i have ever held in my hands. droid bionic. motorola, 250 to $300. it too is a dual core. lightning fast. so fast let's get to. >> really fast. i like for it to get fast service to get to the internet. if i want to go somewhere and want an answer i want an answer fast. >> it's almost instantaneous launching alps anything web based. comes with attachment. laptop like attachment called a lap dock. a screen and keyboard and battery. the brains is actually the phone. >> you don't want to type on one of these little phones. >> the benefit is you get a larger screen, get a full

keyboard. it hooks in here. it might take a while to boot up. i don't think we have time for the demonstration. >> set it on there. >> right. what will happen is you also have a full web browser on here. it's going to boot up. but this is the $300 item. if anything, it proves how advanced the phones are. >> now the other day i was typing an article. i was browsing the web and streaming music on that. that's with the brains of this phone. >> that's important because a lot of people have these smart phones and you want niece phones to deferring at the same time. >> that's correct. >> that's true. mike, thank you very much. mike is with "consumer reports." always great information and very cool stiff. thank you, everybody, for coming out tonight. >> okay. >> rick: very nice to have you here. thank you. that does it for us. >> thank you, rick. good to be with you as always. i'm arthel novembervel. rick folbaum. harris faulkner is up next for "the fox report." beautiful night here.

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