look at it. tell you that. republican bob turner's victory delivered an unmistakable message toresident obama. be afraid. be very afraid. ooh, i'm shaking in my boots. look at the smirk on his face. don't believe this trash. these results don't have anything to do with me. a republican winning a very jewish liberal district has nothing to do with my policy in israel. the jewish people and me, we're kosher. they call me oybama. disaster looms for obama in 2012. let me be clear. i am doing a great job. everything is congress' fault. in fact, just a few nights ago, i told those good folks who paid $35,000 a plate to attend my fundraiser i have a better chance of winning the election in 2012 than i did in 2008.

so don't worry about these ridiculous headlines. rest assured that as long as i'm in this office you're in good hands. good night. and god bless america. are we done? >> we're off. >> who is on huckabee tonight. >> bob turner. >> oyp.vay. >> tonight on huckabee. one of the most conservative members of the senate. who does south carolina senator jim demint think is the best candidate for the white house? and the white house knew solyndra didn't have a solid business plan but pushed for a half billion dollars loan anyway. now, the solar company has gone bust. geri willis and sandra smith hand out their take on the scandal. >> bill: graham's daughter, ann graham lot testimony, tonight. ladies and gentlemen, governor

mike huckabee! >> mike: thank you. thank you very much. very enthusiastic audience with us tonight. welcome to "h huckabee" from the fox news studios in new york city. this week the palestinian authority is going to come to the u.n. and demand that they be declared a state. in total defiance of all of the agreements of the peace process and they are going to force the hand of the u.s. to veto any favorable vote. it is an unnecessary and unproductive move on the part of the palestinians that reveal their disregard to really consummate a peace deal with the israelis and a further example of the blatant contempt that foreign leaders actually have for the current administration and president obama. what was supposed to be a new day in foreign relations, well, it certainly happened. we are no longer feared. and therefore, we are no longer respected. iran builds nuclear bombs. the saudis thumb their noses at human rights. the europeans lecture us on

running up debt. the chinese violate trade agreements and laugh if our debt ridden faces around the palestinians come right to new york and to the u.n. to stick it in it our ear. israel should not stop building communities but accel rate building and make it clear that building residential areas will continue until the palestinians acknowledge israel's right to exist and to have a safe and secure homeland. well, do you believe in miracles? well, a miracle happened this week. oh, you might have missed it. sarah palin actually defended by a writer in the new york times. yes, that's right. pulp fiction by someon stalker, put out a book that was so awful that the new york times book reviewer trashed it instead of sarah palin. [ applause ] >> and the nation's poverty rate -- >> mike: and the nation's poverty rate rose to over 15%

this week. the highest since 199. sad thing is income is actually declining for the poorest seth segment of our people. president obama promised hope and change. poor people are running out of hope, but they do hope that we get some change. democratic strategist james carville even boldly suggested this week that the president needs to fire some people and i agree. now, if he doesn't i'm afraid the country is going to fire the president next year. and by the way, if he wonders who he can get to be his economic advisor. i have just the person. it is my two month old grandson chandler. oh, i love it when the audience does that. and what does he know about the economy? not a dang thing! but you know what, he couldn't do any worse than the people that obama is listening to now. and besides -- [ applause ] >> mike: this gave me the opportunity to shamelessly show you the latest photo of my

grandson. well, that is my view and i welcome yours. you can contact me at mikehuckabee .com. click on the fox news feedback section at mikehuckabee .com and send your comments. you probably know, bob turner became the first republican to win his congressional district in over 90 years. earlier this week he shocked the political world by beating a democrat in new york's heavily democratic 9th congressional district. joining me from queens, new york congressman bob turner. congressman, good to have you with us. >> hello, governor. thank you for having me on. >> mike: i want to begin by -- do you like the sound of congressman. is that something you are getting used to now? >> i keep looking over my shoulder to see who they are talking to. i'm getting used to it. >> mike: there were a lot of people in the political establishment among republicans who didn't think you had a chance. some of the committees didn't even want to support you. do you kind of feel vindicated

by the election results. in they really weren't even that close. >> i think i got a great deal of support from the state party, the national republican party. but mostly it was democrats and independents coming across party lines supporting the right ideas. >> mike: how much impact did the endorsement of former new york mayor and democrat ed koch have in your election? >> in a 3-1 democratic to republican district, his endorsement gave the right credibility and strategy for crossing party lines. i think it was a critical point of the election. >> mike: do you also feel that you are a tea party candidate? i mean that was the way the democrats tried to characterize you and tried to scare people that oh, this bob turner, he is a tea party guy.

are you a tea party guy? and if so, what does that mean? >> when i was confronted with that, i said we don't really have a tea party here but we have people who are sympathetic. i think tea stands for taxed enough already, the people i have met who identified themselves with the tea movement are constitutionalists and promote american exceptionalism. so i think i can live with that. >> mike: you also had a very memorable reaction when i think people were speculating was your election a message to president obama. give me that line again because i thought it was absolutely brilliant. >> i forget but it was something along the line of yes, indeed, it is a message. >> mike: i thought it was great. i think you said i am the message and, indeed, congressman, you are. it is great to be able to call you congressman. i know you have only been there a few days.

don't have time to change the whole system yet but you have already heard about the president's job plan which seems to me like a retread of the one he trotted out before. is there anything in that plan that you could get your arms around and embrace and say yeah, we could do that? >> well, i think the strength of the bill, the proposed bill is that it is a starting point. there are more things we will disagree with but both sides are going to have to come together and soon if we are going to do anything positive. we have to get on both sides of the aisle. we thank the president for starting the process, and now let's get to work. >> mike: i know you got a lot of congratulateory calls from across the country. did you get a call from the white house and from the president congratulating you on the election? >> it may have gotten lost in the din of things, but i'm not

aware of it. >> mike: i'm sure it's coming, soon. congressman, you are great sport but more than that you are great american. congratulations and also thanks for having the courage to do what a lot of people said could not be done and you proved that it could. and i hope you enjoy your time in congress and i hope we as an american people enjoy your time in congress. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> mike: congressman bob turner. well, he is known to many as the tea party senator. so which of the gop presidential candidates does he think best represents the tea party views? south carolina senator jim demint is joining me next. ♪ one, two, three, four ♪ ♪ you say ♪ flip it over and replay ♪ we'll make everything okay ♪ walk together the right way ♪ do, do, do, do that's why i recommend

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>> mike: my next next guest says that america has changed over the last couple of years but it is not the tim type of change that president obama had promised. joining me, senator jim demint.

senator, good to have you here with me. i want to get right into a question. a lot of people thought you might run for president this year. you have become known as a leader within the tea party movement. why did you ke decide not to? >> mike, i might be the only senator who looks in the mirror and still doesn't see a president. i was hoping you would run. and i kept thinking i would see someone come forward who could do a better job. i have a unique role right now, in the senate and if we can get five or ten more solid conservatives in the senate i think we can give the next president a congress that they can work with. >> mike: who do you think that next president ought to be? have you made a determination, any one you endorsed that the point or do you anticipate it? >> i learned last time if you get in too early you might miss the best candidate, which i did. i think in your case, mike. so i'm going wait this time and i want to see how these

candidates respond to the issues that are in washington now, that we are having to deal with, the debt and supercongress recommendation. there will be a lot of things happen over the next couple of months that will tell me which candidate has the character and the courage to actually he lead our country. >> mike: last time you did endorse and support governor mitt romney. he is on the ballot again. let's talk about what were the factors that led you to support him last time and why are you not supporting him this time so far? i realize you still might but what has caused you to hesitate? >> well, it is a different time than it was. i mean our country is about $5 trillion more in debt than it was. and we are borrowing 42 cents on every dollar. last time i was looking for someone with some business experience because my background is business. so much of washington seems to be irrational when it comes to our economy so that is what i was looking for then and i

think we still need someone who understands how economics work. why america is so different and so much more prosperous than other nations. i don't think a lot of the folks in washington understand that, particularly the president right now. i want to wash these candidates for awhile -- i want to watch these candidates for awhile and see what their proposals are. i'm going to keep studying them. i may not get involved at all. if i do it is probably going to be in january before i pick a candidate. >> specifically was there something about governor romney. you mentioned some of the business experience issues but those would be the issues that he would be most prepared for. do you anticipate that you could support governor romney this time? >> i'm open to all of the candidates and i see strengths on all of them, and not just the top two but the ones in the field right now and i find at every debate, particularly the forum we had in south carolina, mike, where we gave them 20 minutes to talk, i found out a lot about them, which ones had the most depth when it came to

america's first principles. so i see strengths and i see some weaknesses and i really want to just let it play out right now. i don't have a favorite. and i think as we saw in the last election that you were part of things really change as you move towards that first caucus and i want to make sure that -- and i also found whenever i endorse a candidate they generally stop listening to me and i'm hoping that we can encourage them to move in the right direction. >> mike: is there any candidate on that stage that you would find unacceptable as a republican nominee? >> no, there is not. i think there is some as we get further along that may appear to be more electable. and it is really important that we win, mike. i wrote about it in the book "the great american awakening" of what the grass roots movement did to change things in 2010 and actually we saw signs of that when you first ran. but 2012 may be our last chance

to turn things around. and what i want people to know is that the poured concreter to save our country is in their hands is and we need to get them back engaged with the process. and i want to be part of that and i'm going to follow where the grass roots go as far as the presidential race. >> mike: let's talk about the book because in it you said that there was something that happened in you, a personal change because of the crisis in the country. i want you talk about that. what that was moment, if it was a moment or if it was a process. tell me about what happened in jim demint's mind and heart that said this country is in a very different place? >> mike, when i first came to congress and i was elected in 1998, i was elected to the house. we had about $5 trillion in debt and i thought i was joining a republican team that was going to reform the tax code, fix social security, help people buy their own health insurance. and i'm afraid i ran into a republican party that was really focused more on getting

reelected, taking home the bacon and over the years in the house, i lost confidence in the party and by the time i got to the senate i just decided that my team was outside of washington and i got involved as much as i could with the grass roots movement in trying to replace not only democrats but some of our republicans. and the -- my party leaders didn't necessarily get behind the folks like marco rubio and you were involve there early. rand paul, pat toomey. i knew these people would help move our country in the the right direction. what changed in me is the realization that i had to change my party or at least be a part of changing it before i could give the country a choice with which party they should vote for and that meant losing some friends in washington. taking a lot of grief inside of washington. but everywhere i go around the country, mike, and i'm sure you heard the same thing. i hear people say thanks for fighting, we are praying for

you and most say what with we do. >> i think that is fair and people respect the fact that you have taken a stand and been unwavering and unflinching in that. i want to say thanks for being here today. thanks for the book "a great awakening" and i hope that people will read it and realize that we are in a deep, deep crisis in this country and it will take leadership to work our way out of it. senator demint, thank you very much for joining us. as the house of representatives has another vote against raising the debt ceiling, what happens when we hit the debt wall? attorney and former regan white attorney and former regan white house aide says the whole houss from body and bath shops? with olay get what you love at half the price with new olay body collections, tantalizing fragrances and olay moisturizing ingredients

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>> mike: this week the house of representatives voted against allowing president obama to raise the debt ceiling by

$2.4 trillion. that is the amount that was built into the august debt deal. now, my next guest says forget about the debt ceiling, we need to be worrying about hitting the debt wall. attorney and former followly advisor for president regan, mark mettle is here. what do you mean by the debt wall? >> an economic term. that point where governments can't borrow money any longer at cheap rates. it becomes unaffordable. >> affects the average person how? >> absolutely. interest rates go up on car loans, mortgages. small businesses haverouble financing inventories. just the cost of capital is raised across-the-board in the economy to the point that it becomes unaffordable. >> mike: is this basic law of supply and demand? the fact that if you have a whole lot of money the interest rates go down. if you don't have any money the interest rates have to go up because the demand is exceeding the supply.

would that be a simple laymen understanding? >> the law of physics. supply and demand applies also to capital. >> mike: you have a chart that talks about what happens when we hit the debt wall. i want to tell everybody there is no way possible for us to get to all of this. go to marc's website about the debt wall. we will keep it up on the screen throughout the segment so you can get information. you will want it and need it but we can't get to all of it. describe what you mean by the debt wall and why we are so dangerously he close to it. >> first, remember, this is a world global debt problem, not just the united states. what is going on. a couple of things that are a perfect storm. the debt is now in the united states greater than the gross domestic product. 100% debt to gdp. the world's debt, 60, $61 trillion will cross over into 100% debt to gdp happened before.ver

>> mike: we owe more money than we can actually bring in. >> and then there is a cost of the capital becoming a force unto itself that we will talk about in a minute on solutions. let's talk about what that means injuries the wall is the point when you hit the wall the cost of interest rates go up to the point where you to spend money or cut government services dramatically. this line is total world government deficit spending. 181 governments are deficit spending right now. only china arguably is cash flowing. and we could talk about that another day but let's take them at their word that they are. in 2009 we reached this point. we bought our way off of it and came down here. we will talk about that in a minute. quantitativeng kwan taytive easing one. >> they printed $600 billion. we never asked the question why $600 billion. it was to ease interest rates.

why in the first time in history did we have to print money to ease and back off interest rates? this is why. this is the amount of money available liquid capital in the world's total chi available for governments at affordable rates. >> , in 2008 we had an economic meltdown and we had extraordinary spending stimulus, tarp. ongoing structural deficits. about $4 trillion. and europe had the same problem and it spiked and we reached this line in 2009 and that is when they implemented qe 1. and quantitative easing was almost the exact number you had to have to back off that line. it was extraordinary. one time spending. qe 2 was part of that. it came down to -- now we are moving back towards structural deficits. >> we will hit that wall is what you are talking about. before rerun out of time. i want to talk about when we hit the wall what are the solutions and what do we do to

stop this before we come crashing down all over us? >> that is the thing, governor. there is hope. we can fix this problem. all we he have to do is cut deficits and cut the budget by 10%. think of these numbers. rounded numbers. the united states government is spending about $4 trillion on $2 trillion in income. overspending our cash flow by 100%. but the total budget of $4 trillion we could cut that. let's think of people who have said this. boles and simpson who chaired the deficit reduction commission said $400 billion to $500 billion and there were structural changes in there. and alle alan green span who si fear for the bond market if we don't cut the deficits. boles said we have a maximum of two years. that was in january of this year. our calculations are in july of

2012. >> mike: that is when we hit the wall. >> yes. >> july of 2012 right in the middle of the presidential election. does at any time make sense that both parties would have a vested interest in trying to avoid this moment? >> yes. >> mike: why don't they do this? >> i don't know. >> mike: the bowles simpson commission was hated by both parties which made me think it might be a good idea if everybody hated it so much. >> the senate knows that these are real issues and real crisis and they wanted them out front again talking about it. we still haven't gotten the american people onboard. the american people need to understand that they are part of the solution. they need to join a grass roots movement to tell the elected officials we will be part this of. they have got to understand this is wartime stuff. >> mike: that is what i think is so important. all we have done is put the beans back on the stove and let them cook some more. at some point we going to burn the beans and burn the house down. i hope you will study more not

so much about the debt ceiling but the debt wall. go to marc's website and learn this. it is significant, important and americans had better be paying attention to the debt wall. up next, a half billion dollars of your hard earned tax dollars goes to a solar panel company and then the company goes bust. we will grade the government on this one in our report card when we come back. ♪ one, two, three, four ♪ ♪ you say ♪ flip it over and replay ♪ we'll make everything okay ♪ walk together the right way ♪ do, do, do, do

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jobs plan. even though the omb warned the deal was not ready for prime time i think we ought to grade the government with the panel. geri willis, host of the willis report and sandra smith. peoplester been all over the report this week. fox has been talking about it a lot. start with the grade. geri, how do you grade the obama administration handling of solyndra. >> f minus. >> mike: that is not good. what did they mess up so badly? >> i think it is like a crystalis of what is wrong with the administration. they pushed the deal through because they wanted to hold a press conference showing off the decision. they are more concerned with the style, not the substance. the sizzle, not the steak. and secondly, they don't know anything about business and

this case shows this in spades. the company, the whole industry is changing dramatically. they didn't seem to know that or understand the technology that solyndra was promoting. at the end of the day the company was in big trouble and they ignored all the warning signs. full speed ahead. f minus for me. >> mike: do i get a little more mercy in your classroom? >> no, failing grade here. there was no bright side to this entire situation. this is a prime example of a politician which happens to be our president, you know, choosing political gain over the health of the united states of america. plain and sim that will is what occurred here. he had no right, no business making this business decision as geri just said. this is the government also proveing that they do not know business. anybody whether it is your household or a small business or a corporation when you make a business decision you look at the economic impact on your business. is the return on investment good? they were told it would not be and they still pushe pushed it

through. >> mike: i think i said earlier in the introduction, $535. it is $535 million. >> of our taxpayer dollars. our taxpayer dollars. >> mike: that's right. it really came out of our pockets. >> we were unwillingly put at risk. that is absolutely right. >> mike: one of the most damning pieces of evidence has to do with the energy department's audit prior to. saying in analyzing the business plan they said this company solyndra would run out of money and gave a date. september of 2011. >> kimberly: 2011. >> 2011. >> mike: that is a shock. remember the o.e. folks were sitting in board meetings here. >> the government sitting in on a private company. >> sitting in and listening to everything that is going on and still giving the company over $500 million of our taxpayer dollars. is another $10 million going out the door before the end of the month. >> goes to show you whether or

not green energy should be pushed or not purchased or are whether it is effective or not effective or makes economic sense. also goes to show you and i put this in line with the stimulus and the other things the president is talking about doing. you can't just throw money at sock and expect to art fixally stimulate it. this stuff has to organically thrive and grow on its own. >> mike: people have to want it. the government didn't have to subsidize the development of the iphone because people naturally want it. nobody had to say you will only buy a macbook if the government subsidizes it. people stand in line at the apple store to get them but nobody is standing in line to get the solar panels yet. i hope they do. i love the idea of it. i want it to happen. i think your word is perfect organically. >> thank you. >> mike: poverty rate, biggest increase in the poverty rate we had since 1993. more americans living under the line of poverty than we have seen in such a long time. let's talk about the significance of that.

sandra, let me start with you. give me a grade. the obama administration have they addressed the root causes of what is going on in poverty? >> to be fair i gave a c minus. >> mike: okay. >> and the reason i say that is that i don't think the president and the administration are doing nothing. i think they are almost acting like a triage doctor and they have the patients coming in and they are bloody and hurting and a mess and they are throwing a band aid on the patients rather than fixing the root of the problem, the root of the health of the economy. instead, they are trying to throw stimulus and trying to promote food stamps. they are not addressing jobs. and if we address the root of the problem, jobs, then, you know, everybody will feel better in this country. the reason i give a c minus, are they trying to address it. are they addressing it correctly, no, i got to give them a c minus. no where near where we need to be to turn this economy around. >> mike: the key to jobs is the fact that that is what will create the growth in the economy not an artificial

transfer of money from government to private pockets but actually that private pockets are growing their own money. like farmers who have seed in the ground rather than hoping someone will mail them some food. geri, your grade? >> i wasn't as nice. i'm a d here. >> mike: you are tough. i don't want to be in your classroom. >> but you will learn something. >> mike: you know you are getting your house egged at halloween if you are a teacher. >> i think the real problem here isn't just poverty rising. it is also that middle america, middle income families are only earning what they were earning 30 years ago. so income for middle income families people who go go to work every day and pay all of the tax burden, these folks are not growing and getting better. maybe we are looking at the wrong problem here. i don't know. i don't like what is going on here. i say a d. >> mike: wow. okay. remind me never ever to take a class with geri willis. she will be taking all of us to school on monday because she is taking the willis report on monday with special guest house

speaker john boehner live from cincinnati. that is at 5:00 eastern on the fox business network. and i think it is something that we will all want to see. by the way, if people don't have the fox business network, what should they do? >> demand it. >> mike: neil cavuto, you owe me for that one. you do. great to have you both here. thank you very much. her own father has called her the best preacher in the family and he ought to know because h her father is. >> bill: graham. his daughter is joining me next. next. motorcycles, boats, even rv's. nobody knows where he got his love for racing. all we know is, it started early. casey mears, driver of the number thirteen geico toyota camry.

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>> mike: she hails from a family of preachers and has been called one of five most influencial evangelists in america. also the author of a new book called "expecting to see jesus." please welcome anne graham lotz. welcome. >> great to be here. >> mike: i want to it talk about your book. i can't help but asking the obvious question that you get asked all the time but i haven't asked it yet so here is goes. what is it like growing up the daughter of billy and ruth graham? >> i have nothing to compare it with. it was the only family i grew up with. i was pretty much raised by single parents anded grand

parents because daddy was gone 60% of the time. you can do it with god's help. and then the other thing is it was a christ centered home so jesus was believed in. he was loved, served, obeyed and that was contagious to me. my mother taught me just by her scam tomorrow love god's word and love the jesus of the bible. my daddy taught me to be faithful about what god has taught me to do. that was the kind of home it was. you said you met franklin, a lot of fighting at our. >> mike: he has been such a servant of the lord in his life. did you have the times of rebellon. were there times in anne's life when you went off the reservation? >> i didn't. i always loved the lord. i remember the day, it was good friday. i watched cecil b. demille film

on tv. claimed jesus as savior and gave him my life as lord. from that day forward i loved him. >> reporter: a great irony in that you came to know the lord not in watching billia graham cecil b.tching cecil b. da demille. >> that movie was precious to me. they used to show it every good friday like an easter tradition. and then when i got mare areried young and had three children and just because of the business of life, i drifted from god. i didn't rebel against him but he moved to the priefr periphey life and i didn't have time tore prayer. i knew i was saved and if i died i would go to heaven but just missed the fellowship with him and so i just made the decision i wanted to come back to god. i was homesick for him. somebody told me about about a bible class. >> mike: what a beautiful expression. homesick for god. i love that expression. >> because we were made for

him. if you have known him and sort of fall away from the relationship there is a longing in your heart and nothing else satisfies. i had that longing for him again and i knew where to find him in the pages of my bible. i just didn't have the discipline to do it. somebody told me about bible study fellowship. i had 500 ladies show up for the class. i used to throw up before i went to teach. >> mike: better before than on them. >> that is exactly right. but i wanted to be in the scripture and come back to god and i did through the discipline of that study i did. >> mike: you have a brand new book out called expecting to see jesus and it is all about your believe that we may be in the very, very last days of this planet. that is a pretty bold position to take. does that cause you pain when people say come on now, how do you know the end of the world is near? >> i don't know the end of the world is near but i read what jesus said in matthew 24 and

luke 21 and i take what he said and i match is with what is happening in the world today and governor huckabee, i shay seriously. i believe we are living in the last generation. i believe that is my generation. and i believe that generation. there are two distinct ives jesus gave. one is the rebirth of the nation of israel. and israel was reborn in may 1948. that is the month i was born. that is my generation. and then the other distinctive is that the gospel would be appreciated to the whole world. and the other signs that jesus said would take place within the same generation. he said that is the generation that would see all of these things fulfilled and he said the h heavens and earth would pass away, his word would never pass away. i believe jesus is the son of god and take him at his word and i believe based on what he said and what i see happening in the world i believe that this is the last generation. if i'm wrong, okay, i'm still expecting to see him when i die.

>> mike: a powerful message and we will come back and talk more with anne graham lotz. do we possibly conclude that we are living in the last of the are living in the last of the days of the planet? ♪ one, two, three, four ♪ ♪ you say ♪ flip it over and replay ♪ we'll make everything okay ♪ walk together the right way ♪ do, do, do, do

let's talk about the end of the world. you know, there was a radio ratherrer that predicted a very specific time last year and really it became a point of derision. people were making fun of it. i think his name was harold camping. do people say to you you, anne, don't go there because people will think you are kook and nut if you start saying you know when the end of the world will happen. >> i have been warned that i would destroy my credibility on this. and harold camping did

something that contradicted what jesus said. he said you cannot know the day and the hour. that was not only disobedient but it was dangerous. he turned something into a joke that was not a joke. jesus gave us signs that we don't know the day or hour but we can know the generation. he told his disciples that asked and jesus sat there and told them enough so they could know and gave them signs. he said they were like birth pains. when i gave birth to my children they started out, you just had a grandson, right, five minutes apart and two minutes apart and they increase in frequency. >> mike: the birth of my grand child was joyful all the way through. >> i would like to talk to your daughter. >> as they increase in frequency they increase in intensity. the first pain i thought it wasn't so bad. the last pain i thought i can't stand one more. volcanove signs like volodymyr

eruptions, diseases is that have no cure. he said they would be like birth pains and when you see them increasing in frequency, not just once every ten years, now it is every year and month and week and when you see them increasing in intensity which is they are record breaking. the one this month breaks last year's and the one that week break's last month and see them increasing in frequency and intensity those are birth pains. it is leading to the birth of the kingdom of god on earth and i believe god is using them to wake us up to warn us. >> mike: i think christian believers would get encouragement for your book. for christians the thought that the world is going to come to an end is not the worst thing. what about ske skeptics? is it a book for skeptics as well astronauts believers. >> if they are interested in what god has to say. how we can look to the signs and know the signs.

i put them in five categories. when i read my newspaper or get it on the web i can put the signs i see into categories. the rest the book tells us how to respond to it. i believe what we need to do governor huckabee is to get right with god. god said in chronicles to solomon when you see disasters like a 9/11 or hurricane katrina or war in afghanistan that the longest of our history if my people called my by name would humble themselves and pray and turn from our wick #-d ways. we are so busy pointing our finger at other people and god is looking at his people the church and saying you need to get right with me and when we do he says he will hear our prayer and forgive our sins and heal our land and he would bless america if the church would get right with tim. thahim. if the skeptic wants to read it the solution is the same with him because we are going to meet jesus. you meet him at death or at his return. so you are going to stand before him and we need to be

prepared for that moment. >> mike: great to have you here. thank you. give my regards to your father and family. he has been so good to america. one of the things that i think is everybody dent to say is even if you are not a believer if you lived as if jesus is coming there is really no down side to that. and if you lived as if his coming is immediate and imminent, there is no down side to that. might do america some good to actually believe it and if you didn't believe it live like that anyway. hope you had a great time. we enjoyed being with you. until next week from new york this is mike huckabee and all the crew here at fox news channel. ♪ one, two, three, four ♪

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