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look at this one. all the searches on foreign policy. israel is the biggest word. these are the words used in questions. that brings us to our first question. this week with the palestinian efforts at united nations, the issue of the future of israel is a big concern to questioners. governor romney, the next question was a top question =ó policy section. >> as president how would you approach the reality in the mideast? specifically, with with regards to our ally israel and the threat it faces from iran, hamas, hezbollah and now the palestinian authority? >> governor romney?&'u@ñ >> simply you start off by saying you don't allow an inch of space to kpweus between you, your friends and allies. -- to exist between you, your friends and allies. the president went about this all wrong. he went around the world and
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apologized for america. he addressed the united nations in his inaugural address and chastised our friend israel for building settlements and said nothing about the palestinians launching rockets into israel. he threw netanyahu under the bus. if you disagree with an ally you talk privately. if public you stand shoulder hu)u$ your allies. the right course for us -- [ applause ] the right course is not to try to negotiate for israel. the right course is tan behind our friends to listen to them and let the world now we will stay with them and support and defend them. with regards to iran which perhaps represents the greatest existential threat to israel we have to make it clear, it is unacceptable, take that word carefully, unacceptable for iran to become a nuclear nation. [ applause ] >> mr. cain, this week the palestinian authority brought
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their bid for statehood to the united nations. how would you respond to the unilateral declaration of a palestinian state? >> it stars with an extension -- it starts with the extension of reagan philosophy of peace through strength. my philosophy would extend that peace through strength and clarity. this administration has not made it clear how it stands with israel. when i was in israel last month i met with the deputy prime minister. he made it shockingly, chillingly clear that given everything that is going on, number one, israel will defend itself with all of the tends going on in the middle east. he also made it real clear that he wind sure how this administration stood when it came to israel. i made it clear, which i would also make it clear to all -- that if you mess with israel, you are messing with the united states of america. we will stand solidly behind
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israel. [ cheering and allows ] >> if in fact i was clear to the palestinians, where the might have had second thoughts about trying to pull such a move without negotiating with israel. >> mr. cain, thank you. here's a comparison of searches on google for israel, pakistan and afghanistan. over the past few years, you can see the lines, israel dominates the searches except for a few critical moments in time for pakistan. which brings us to this, governor perry, if you were president, and you go a call at 3 a.m., telling you that pakistan had lost control of is nuclear weapons, at the hands of the taliban, what would be your first move? well obviously, before you go that point you have to build a relationship in that region. that's one of the things this administration has not done. yesterday, we found out through admiral mullen that
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haqqani has been involved with terrorist group directly associated with the pakistani country. to have a relationship with india, to make sure that india knows they are an ally of the united states. for instance, when we had the opportunity to sell india the upgraded f-16's, we chose not to do that. we did the same with taiwan. the point is, our allies need to understand clearly that we are their friends, we will be standing by with them. today we don't have those allies in that region that can assist us, if that situation that you talked about were to become a reality. >> senator san for run if the security situation were to fall -- santorum if the security situation were to fall apart in iraq in 2012, would you support sending troops back to the region to stabilize the gains made?
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>> i'm not for taking them out of the region. our generals are being clear we need to continue to stabilize iraq, the iraqi government wants and needs our intelligence in particular. needs force protection. need to have any -- i'm hearing numbers of 20, 30,000 troops potentially to remain in iraq, not indefinitely. but to continue to make sure this is a stable transition. this is the difference between congressman paul, governor huntsman, governor perry and myself when it comes to issue. i say when we engage in iraq and afghanistan, we engage because we want to be successful. we want victory. we want to have accomplished a national security objective for this country. to make sure that we are safer. we are not on a political agenda to withdraw troops. first thing to make sure we secure success. to answer the question on pakistan, which i'm not sure was answered. the bottom line is, we should
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be establishing relationships in pakistan with allies of ours, folks like relationships with president musharraf who he had in the past with others in that country. so if something like that would occur we could work in concert to make sure that coup could be overturned and make sure those nuclear weapon do not fall in those hands. we want to work in that country to make sure the problem is defused. >> speaker beginning rip, many of the foreign policy questions we received had directly to do with the u.s. economy it came to the topic of foreign aid. butch russell had the top voted video question in the section of foreign policy. >> when are we gonna get someone in the white house that can stand up to these other countries and say you are not getting any more of our money this is stupid. we send billions overseas to country that hate us.
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[ applause ] >> i think there's a lot to that. i've been a strong supporter of international assistance. there are a couple of good reasons to review the whole program. first, i would replace virtually all government to government aid with skin of investment approach that encouraged american companies to create jobs that made both the united states and the other country wealthier. our bureaucrats giving their bureaucrats money is a guaranteed step towards corruption. second, when your countries vote against you in the united nations consistently you have to ask why are you giving them anything? if they are not your ally -- applause ] >> we came out of world war ii with the generosity that made sense when we had 50% of the world economy. i was a different world. we need to understand how different it is. back to your question on pakistan. i think people need to understand how real this is. this world is in danger of becoming dramatically more dangerous in the not too
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distant future. people talk about an iranian weapon there may be well over 100 weapons in pakistan. and the example you used is not too far-fetched to worry about. >> speaker gingrich, thank you. governor johnson here in florida, charter flights from ft. lauderdale to havana, cuba have resumed. is there a problem with that? what are your thoughts on u.s.-cuba policy? >> i think the biggest threat to our national security is the fact that we are bankrupt. so i'm promising to submit a balanced budget to congress in the year 2013, included is the 43% reduction in military spending. i think it is crazy that we have foreign aid to countries when we are borrowing 43 cents out of every dollar to do that. military alliances, military alliances are key to other countries taking up the slack.
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with regard to flights to cuba? you know, i'm in favor, i think of the whole notion that trade promotes friendship. as opposed to not. so i would be inclined to looking at establishing or supporting those kinds of flights. >> governor johnson, thank you. meg -- excuse me could i weigh in on this. according to the state department's website, there are four nations that are state sponsors of terror. cuba is one of those nations. we would never have flights between the united states and cuba -- as a state sponsor of terror. >> just one issue i want to pond to my friend rick santorum here. -- we have a difference of upon in terms of overall foreign policy.
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i think the only one on stage with any hands on foreign policy experience having lived overseas four times. we are at a critical juncture. we don't have a foreign policy and we don't project the goodness of this country in terms of , democracy, open markets and human rights with a weak core. right now our core, our economy is broken. we don't shine that light today we are 25% of the world's gdp. the world is a better place when the united states is strong. guiding anything we talk about from a foreign policy standpoint needs to be fixing our core. second, i believe that after 10 years of fighting the war on terror, people are ready to bring our troops home from afghanistan, rick. [ applause ] >> this country has given its all. what remains behind some element to collect intelligence, special forces capability. and we have to do that in every corner of the world. but we need to fix this core and get serious about what the rest of the 21st century holds
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for this country. >> just because our economy is sick does not mean our country is sick and doesn't mean our values are sick. we are going to stand up for those values every opportunity to make sure our country is safe. the bottom line is that you just mentioned is, we should be fighting wars to win. not fighting wars for politics. this president is fighting a war in afghanistan with one hand tied behind our generals not giving the troops what they need. unless we change those rules of engage and make sure our folks can win we are going to play politics with our military. >> this may not come as a huge revelation wave been talking about pakistan. at the end of the day only pakistan can save pakistan. only afghanistan can save afghanistan. all i want is for america to save america. we have to fix our core.
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[ cheering and applause ] >> thank you very much. >> as i originally said, megyn kelly on social issues. >> megyn: now moving on from you governor huntsman to you congresswoman bachmann. in 2006 you said public schools are teaching children that there is separation of church and state and said i am here to tell you that's a myth. do you believe that there's a limit on government's ability to inject religion into the public square? if so, what is that limit? >> i think thomas jefferson stated it best, he was the author of the religious liberty that he valued so much. that's, the united states government should not be a state church. that's ilie what the fundamental was of separation of church and state. when jefferson wrote a letter to the dan bury baptist they wanted to know, will you have a national church in the united states? he said no. because we believe in freedom
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of conscience. we believe in freedom of religious liberty and expression and speech. that's a foundational principle in the united states. but that doesn't mean that we aren't people of faith. and that people of faith shouldn't be allowed to exercise religious liberty in a public square. of course we should be able to -- [ applause ] >> whether that expression occurs in a public school, or occurs in a public building, we should be able to allow -- to have freedom for all people to express our belief in god. >> megyn: senator santorum this question stirred up a lot of controversy online it comes from steven hill a soldier serving in iraq: >> in 2010 when i was deployed to iraq i had to lie about who i was, because i'm a gay soldier. i didn't want to lose my job. my question is, under one of
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your president sees do you intend to circumvent the progress made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military? [ booing ] >> i would say any type of sexual activity has no place in the military. the fact they are making a point to include it as a provision within the military that we are going to recognize a group of people and give them a special privilege to and removing don't ask don't tell i think tries to inject social policy into the military. and the military's job is to do one thing to defend our country. we need give the military, which is all-volunteer the ability to do so in a way that is -- [ inaudible ] [ cheering and applause ] >> megyn: what would you do with soldiers like steven hill? now he's out.
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what would you do as president? >> what we are doing is playing social experimentation with our military right now. that's tragic. i would just say that going forward we would reinstitute that policy if rick santorum was president. that policy would be reinstituted as far as people in i would not throw them out that would be unfair to them because of the policy of this administration. but we would move forward in conformity with what was happening in the past. which was sex is not an issue. it should not be an issue. leave it alone. keep it to yourself whether you are heterosexual or homosexual. >> megyn: congressman paul you said you believe life begins at conception. and abortion ends an innocent life. if you believe that, how can you support a rape exception to abortion ban and how can you support the morning after pills? aren't those lives just as innocent?
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>> they may be the way this is taken care of in our country it is not a national issue. this is a state issue. there are circumstances where doctors in the past have used certain day after pills for somebody with rape. frankly, if somebody is treated, you don't even know if a person is pregnant. you don't know if there is a disease, 24 hours after rape, i don't know how you are going to police it. so i don't think -- we have too many laws already. how are you going to police the day after pill? it doesn't make sense in a practical matter. i would say nobody can out do me on for life. i've spent a lifetime dealing with life. but i still think there's a time where the law doesn't solve the problems. only the moral character of the people will solve this problem. not the law. [ cheering and applause ] >> megyn: governor perry, you and former president george w. bush have a lot in common. you are both republicans from
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texas. you both ran on the same ticket for the state house. you both share a deep religious faith. you made a point of saying we went to different colleges and point out you have a different approach from president bush when it cop to government spending. war the other different -- when it comes to government spending. what are the other difference that you can cite between you and president bush and what say you about reports there is some bad blood between the would two of you? >> let me address the last issue first. we go a great rapport. i talk to the president from time to time call him on his birthday, talk to him on a relatively regular basis. i highly respect the president and his public service. what we have in difference is probably as much as in style as in substance on various issues. for instance, i was very vocal in my disagreement with him on medicaid part d that the
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federal government should be involved in that very expensive program. i was also vocal against no child left behind. it gets back to the federal government has no business telling the states how to educate our children. [ applause ] >> we've been showing you these word clouds throughout the night. take a look at this one. all of the questions on health care. you can see the big word there, obamacare. chris has the questions on health care. >> chris: we'll get right to that question. mr. cain, you are a survivor of stage 4 colon and liver cancer. and you say, if obamacare had been -- [ applause ]
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>> chris: -- and we all share in the happiness about your . but, you say if obamacare had been in effect when you were first being treated, you would dead now, why? >> the reason i said that i would be dead under obamacare is because my cancer was detected in march of 2006. from march 2006 all the way to the end of 2006, for that number of months, i was able to get the necessary cat scan tests, go to the necessary doctors, get a second opinion, get chemotherapy, go -- get surgery, recuperate, get more chemotherapy in a span of nine months. if we had been under the obamacare and a bureaucrat was trying to tell me when i could get that scat scan that would have delayed by treatment. my surgeons and doctors have told me that because i was
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able get the treatment as fast as i could, based upon my timetable and not the government's timetable that's what saved my life. because i only had a 30% cans of survival. now i'm here five years cancer free to do it on my time table not on a bureaucrat's timetable. this is one of the reasons i believe a lot of people are objecting to obamacare. we need get bureaucrats out of the business of trying to micromanage health care in this nation. [ applause ] >> chris: governor huntsman, you say president obama's health care plan is a trillion dollar bomb dropping -- dropped on taxpayers and job creation. i want to show you the top voted question on youtube that was submitted on health care. it comes from ian mcdonald of michigan who says he has a health problem. >> hi, i'm a student and i have a chronic heart
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condition. for me, and those like me, the democrats' health care reform, allowing us to stay on our parents' insurance longer was a god . if were you elected, -- would you repeal in reform? if so, are we supposed to pray really hard that our ailments don't prevent us from going to class? >> governor, what about provisions that ian talks about? the one that allows kids to stay on their parents' policies until they were 26, not limiting coverage for preexisting conditions. president obama says the only way that insurance companies can afford to provide those kinds of reforms is with the individual mandate where they get a lot of new customers. >> when i hear this discussion, i think of my daughter elizabeth who is sitting on the front row who suffers from juvenile diabetes. i also am reminded we are
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fundamentally approaching health care reform the wrong way. this one trillion dollar bomb that obamacare means to this country over 10 years is creating such uncertainty in the marketplace that businesses aren't willing to hire, to deploy capital into the marketplace everyone it has gummed up our system. i say we go out to the states and let the states experiment and find breakthroughs in how we address health care reform. health care reform is a three trillion dollar industry the size of the gdp of france. all i want to do is what we did in youtube in direct response. -- did in utah in direct response. we need affordable insurance policies. we got one in utah a coverage policy that young people can an for. then you can start whittling down the hyper 10 of people uninsured because -- the high percentage of people who are
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uninsured let's forget federal fixes and solutions and turn to the states where we will find answers to this difficult and complicated problem. >> chris: thank you governor. congresswoman bachmann in the last debate you criticized governor perry for his executive order man daying that 6th graders get the hpv vaccine to prevent cervical -- cancer then after you suggested that the vaccine was linked to mental retardation and you said that it could be a very dangerous drug. but the american academy of pediatrics has looked at it and said the mv vaccine has an excellent safety record. my question to you is, do you stand by your statement that the hpv vaccine is potentially dangerous? if not, should you be more careful when talking about public health issue? >> i didn't make that claim nor do i make that statement.
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immediately after a debate a mother came up to me and was visibly shaken and heart broken because of what her daughter had gone through. i only related what her story was. here's the real issue, governor perry mandated a health care decision on all 12-year-old little girls in the state of texas. and by that mandate, those girls had to have a shot for a sexually transmitted disease. that is not appropriate to be a decision that a governor makes. it is appropriate that parents make that decision in consultation with their doctor. here the even more important point, because governor perry made a decision where he gave parental rights to a big drug company. that big drug company gave him campaign contributions and hired his former chief of staff to lobby him to benefit the big drug company. that's what was wrong with that picture. [ applause ] >> chris: governor perry, 30
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seconds to respond. >> thank you. i got lobbied on this issue. i got lobbied by a 31-year-old young lady who had stage 4 cervical cancer. i spent a lot of time with her. she came by my office talked to me about in program. i readily admitted we should have had an opt-in, in this program. but, i don't know what part of opt-out most parents don't get. the fact is, i erred on the side of life and i will always err on the side of life. as a governor. as the president of the united states. [ applause ] >> chris: governor perry i have a question for you. texas has the most uninsured residents of any statement in the -- any state in the country, 25%. you blamed it on restrictions imposed by the federal government. question checked.
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the feds treat texas like they do all the other big states. on its own, on its own, texas has imposed some of the tough he eligibility rules for medicaid of any state in the country in fact, you rank 49th, in medicaid coverage of low income residents. the question is, isn't texas' uninsured problem because of decisions made biotech as? >> i disagree with your analysis. we've had a request in for the federal government so we could have a medicaid waiver for years. the federal government has stopped us from having that medicaid waiver. allowing the state of texas or for that matter the other states that were making -- that we're making reference to here, to have waivers give them more option to be able to give the options, there's a menu of options we could have, just like john huntsman talked about. that is how we go forward with our health care. each state deciding how
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they're going to deliver that health care. not one size fits all. i think this whole concept of not allowing the states to come up with the best ideas about how to deliver health care in their state. the fact is, people continue to move to the state of texas, some of the highest rates in the country because we've created a state where opportunity is very much the word of the day there, if you will, for finding work and what have you. our health care is part of that. our education is part of that. we are proud of what we put together in the state of texas. >> chris: governor romney, the other day in perry call romney care socialized medicine. he said it failed in western europe and in massachusetts. and he warn that republicans should not nominate his words, obama-lite. how do you respond to governor perry? >> i don't think he knows what he's talking about in that regard. let me tell you this about our
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system in massachusetts. 92% of our people were unsured before we put our plan in place. nothing has changed system is the same private market-based insurance. 8% weren't insured. we said let's find a way to get them insurance. market-based private insurance. we didn't come up with some new government insurance plan. our plan in massachusetts has some good parts, some bad parts. some things i would change, some things i like. it is different than obamacare. what you heard from herman cain is one key point. which is obamacare intends to put someone between you and your physician. it must be repealed if i'm president of the united states on my first day in office, i will issue an executive order, which directs the secretary of health and human services to provide a waiver from obamacare to all 50 states that law is bad, unconstitutional, it shall not stand. >> chris: governor perry, 30
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seconds to spoken. >> i think americans don't know which mitt romney they are dealing with. mitt romney against the second amendment before he was for the second amendment? before he was before the social programs from the standpoint of he was for standing up for roe vs. wade before he was against roe vs. wade. he was for race to the top. he's for obamacare and now he's against it. i mean, we will wait until tomorrow and see which mitt romney we are really talking tonight. >> chris: governor romney? >> the same term again, nice try. governor, i wrote a book two years ago and i laid out in that book what my views are on a wide range of issues. i'm a conservative
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businessman. i haven't spent my life in politics. i spent my life in business. i know how jobs come, go. my positions are laid out in that book. i stand by them. you wrote a book six months ago. you are already retreating from the positions in that book. >> not an inch sir. >> in that book i says social security was forced upon the american people. it says by any measure social security is a failure not to 75 million. you said social security should be returned to the states. those are the positions of your book. i'm going to standby my positions i'm proud of them. there are a lot of reasons not to elect me and others on the stage. one reason to elect me is i know what i've stand for, i've written them down, words have and i have the experience get this country going again. >> we return to issue number one, jobs, stay tuned@?ñ
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there is no erik gustafson!!!!! [ male announcer ] small business solutions. fedex. solutions that matter. >> bret: welcome back to the orange county convention center here in orlando, tprd -- orlando, florida. now a question for all candidates.
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new york mayor bloomberg recently freted over the possibility of the unemployed rioting in the streets. ohio's governor kasich said for the first time in my life, i'm worried about this country. recently, a liberal columnist wrote this, we've lost our mojo. president obama promised hope and change. according to many polls, fewer and fewer americans believe he's delivered. i'm not asking for your jobs plan here. what i'm asking for is how are you going to turn this country around? we'll go down the row, 30 seconds each, governor huntsman? >> first, let me say this is a human tragedy playing out with 15 million unemployed. so many million beyond who are so disspirited they've given up. a sheriff in new hampshire talks about foreclosures that his folks are handing out first time ever to the middle class. i would drop three things /qç0m the doorstep of congress.
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one my tax reform package endorsed by the "wall street journal." serious regulatory reform, dodd-frank, obamacare repealed. energy independence. boon pickens had some great ideas. it would get the engines of growth going like nothing else i could think of. >> mr. cain? >> obvusly, it starts with economic growth. and yes, i've already laid out how i would do that with my 9, 9, 9 plan. what americans are looking for in order to build their confidence is leadership. there is a severe deficiency of leadership in washington, d.c.. once we fill that void, i believe american people will begin to develop some confidence again. in terms of believing in this nation, ronald reagan was one who said we are a shining city on a hill. we've slid down the side of that hill. americans want somebody who is
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going to lead them back up to the top of that hill. that's how we turn this country around. [ applause ] >> bret: congresswoman bachmann? >> i agree it is time to reach for the brass ring of liberty once again. we can. the signature issue of barack obama and his presidency has been the passage of obamacare this week a study came out that said, the number one reason why employers aren't hiring is because of obamacare. that's why i introduced the bill to repeal obamacare. as president of the united states that's the very first thing i would do is repeal obamacare. >> bret: governor romney? >> all across america you've got families sittinging across from their -- sitting in their livingrooms and kitchens, sitting at the kitchen table with a calculator and checkbook seeing if they have enough to make ends meet for the month or the week. people who are sitting at that same table filling out job application forms knowing there are hundreds of other
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people tar doing the same thing for the same . these are tough times for a lot of people in this country. we are a patriotic people. we place our hand over our heart during the playing of the national anthem no other people on earth do that. if we are lead by a leader to lives with integrity and knows how to lead, america will remain the hope of the earth and the strongest nation in the world. i'll do it. >> bret: governor perry? >> americans want a leader who has a proven record of job creation. we get rid of obamacare. we pull back all of those regulations that are job killing today. whether it is dodd-frank or whether it is the epa. then we sit with congress and lower those corporate tax rates. lower those personal tax rates. then we put our plan to make america energy independent and that is the way you get america working again. [ applause ] >> bret: congressman paul?
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>> government destroys jobs, the market creates jobs. the government isn't going to be expected to create the jobs they have to change environment. you can't do that unless you understand where depressions, recessions come from, you can do that unless you know where the budgets come from. i've been arguing this 20 years warning about -- until we understand we can solve the problem. you have to deal with the federal remember is of system. you have to deal with free markets and you have to deal with the tax program and the regulatory system. then you can get your jobs because the people will create the jobs not the government. [ cheering and applause ] >> >> bret: waiting for the applause. speaker gingrich? >> 32 years ago we were in the same place. we had a failing president. he gave a speech on malaise. people wrote about the presidency being too big,
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nobody could do it. soviet union was in offense. a leader came along. he said, when your brother in law is unemployed it is a recession. when you are unemployed it is a depression many when jimmy carter is unemployed it is a recovery. [ applause ] >> nothing will turn america around more than election night when barack obama lose us decisively. [ applause ] >> bret: senator santorum? >> the last words ronald reagan said as president in his farewell address. he was concern about the future of our country because we were forgetting who we were. didn't remember what americans was about. i think that's what the problem now. we have a president who doesn't understand what america is all about. america is a great country because we are a country that believes in god given rights
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to every single man, woman and child in america. and that we built this country from the bottom up. believing in free people to have that responsibility to live their lives and service to themselves, their family, community and god. in so doing we transformed the world. we had a leader in reagan who believed in you. president obama is the new king george iii, who believes in things being dictated from on high. we need to replace him with someone who believes in the american people again. [ applause ] greta: breath governor johnson? >> -- >> bret: governor johnson. >> my next door neighbors two dogs have created more shovel-ready jobs than this present administration. [ laughing ]
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>> balance the federal budget now. not 15 years from now. not 20 years from now. but now. and throw out the entire federal tax system, replace it with a fair tax, a consumption tax that by all measure s is just that. it is fair. it does away with corporate income tax. if that doesn't create tens of millions of jobs in this country, i don't know what does. [ applause ] >> bret: you just made your neighbor's dog very famous. >> when we come back, the final round. we'll be talking the republican ticket. we are back from orl
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>> bret: welcome back for our final round. our final question from youtube. our wild card question comes from derrell owens in richmond, virginia. >> if you had to one of your opponents on the stage tonight to be your running mate in the 2012 election who would you choose and why and why would this person help you make the country better? >> bret: if you had to a running mate, one of the people on stage with you who would you choose and why? 30 seconds down the row. governor johnson? >> well, that would be the guy three down congressman paul. [ applause ] >> that would be the notion that this country is about liberty and freedom. and right now we are facing an extraordinary crisis that if we do not address it now we
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are going to find ourselves in a monetary crisis that is going to leave us all with nothing. if we want to look at an example of that, that would be russia. that experienced a monetary collapse that in our lives may never require, we need to an individual that now. >> bret: senator santorum? >> i would pick someone who would do what i articulated i would do as president that's what a vice president should be someone who would follow through. i would say that right now that the guy that i'm an growing with most up on stage is probably the guy to my left. i would say newt gingrich would be the guy i would pick as someone who would follow through with what i'm saying. >> bret: speaker gingrich? >> i'm going to disappoint those in the audience who want this to be a hollywood game. i don't have any idea who i would pick as vice presidential nominee. it would have to be a person capable of being president of the united states. that would be the first
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criteria. these are all good friends of mine. i couldn't imagine hurting any of their feelings by choosing one tonight. >> bret: congressman paul, hurt away. >> i don't plan to make a choice at the moment, because i am on national polls. it seems like i'm in third place now. i think it would be inappropriate. as soon as i'm one of the two top tier then i would start thinking along that line. right now i'm going to defer and work hard and make sure i stay on the top tieer and eventually be one of the top two. >> bret: governor perry? >> staying with the game show idea here, i don't know how you would do this. but if you could take herman cain and mate him up with newt gingrich, i think you would have a couple of
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really interesting guys to work with. [ laughing ] >> i don't know how you do it. >> bret: governor romney, derrell owens would like an answer. >> there are a couple of images i'm going to have a hard time getting out of my mind. [ laughing ] >> that's one. gary johnson's dogs are the other. i'm going to go with newt on in, meaning -- i know i'm going to pin. if you pick a vice president, if you are lucky enough to become a nominee, picking a vice president would be something you give a lot of thought to. you want someone who without question could become the president of the united states. these people could all fill that position. anyone of them would be a better president than what we have now. [ applause ] >> bret: governor rom me that, i hate follow-up. you -- governor romney, i hate
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to follow-up, but you call governor perry unelectable based on his social security. >> i didn't use that term the newspaper did that happens now and then. i think there's some problems that exist in each of our backgrounds that make it harder for us to get elected. i hope one of us gets that white house. i think we will because i think the president has failed. governor perry and i disagree on some issues. i think we all have differing views on different issues. one thing is for sure, we all agree that president obama needs to be former president obama and we are going to make that happen. >> bret: congresswoman bachmann? >> we need to have a strong constitutional conservative. that's what i would look for in a vice president. every four years, conservatives are told that we have to settle. it is anybody but obama, that's what we are hearing this year. i don't think that's true. i think president obama has
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the lowest public approval ratings than any president in modern times. he hasn't got to the basement yet. it will be lower than it is now. that's why we need to a candidate who reps conservatives and constitutional conservative positions. >> bret: mr. cain? >> this is a game and it is hypothetical. i'll play the game. if governor romney would throw out his jobs growth plan and replace it with 9, 9, 9, he has a shot. if he does not, i would probably go with speaker gingrich, who i have the greatest admiration for in all seriousness, because of his history and because of his depth of knowledge. i could go on, because i have respect for everybody up here. but it is a game.
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>> bret: it is a youtube question, governor huntsman? >> i'm tempted to say when all is said and done the two standing in the middle, romney and perry aren't going to be around because they are going to blugeon each other to death. i'm also reminded four years ago we had two front runners in similar situations one by the name of giuliani and the other thompson. they seemed to disappear all together. i can remember where they went. i would have to say since chris wallaceoesn't qualify as somebody on the stage, so i can pick one of you that herman cain, because of his selection of ties. the fact that we both apparently agree with the gold standard, wearing yellow ties. and because of the good neighbor policy, 9, 9, 9, mixed with my tack policy would be the most competitive thing this nation could ever achieve. i would have to say herman is my man. >> bret: candidates, thank you very much. that is it for our debate
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tonight. our thanks to the candidates and their staffs. big thank you to our debate partner google and the florida republican partner to the great people in the orange county convention center and of course the state of florida. they could not have been mores who pit able. stay with fox news channel. america's election headquarters all the way to the general election and the inauguration. closed captioning by closed captioning services,inc >> bret: let's get some
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instant reaction. charles, first you -- first, your assessment? >> there was the moment of the debate that clearly was garr -- gary johnson shoveling dogs. i'm not sure it will be remembered as that. but that was the best line. had he said it early on, he might now be a top tier candidate. there were themes. they terms of did this change any of the fortunes of the candidate? i think they played to type. there were few surprises either in terms of policy or in their sort of demeanor. i thought perry and romney were again interesting. romney was as in the other debates, practiced, fluent, fairly good on the counter punch. perry had one great moment. he obviously prepared it about the anti-cervical vaccine i am poeing it on the right and the america connection.
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he said i was lobbied by this young woman, obviously suffering from that cancer. it was a poignant moment, again he had the audience with him. and then he let it go. the answer sort of dissipateed rather than follow through. in the same way when he tried land these punches against romney at the end. as somebody who changes his positions. he had three positions in mind. on two he sort of stumbled. again he showed himself to have some presence in recovery but didn't have the kind of stead -- steadiness as in the first two debates. still the rookie. i felt what was interesting how the candidates who were second tier in terms of the poll, did well. they got more attention. i still expect top tier romney and perry. i think not much changed
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except i think perry might have missed an opportunity or two. >> bret: juan, your thoughts? >> bret, i thought what we had was romney and perry come through this as still the top two candidates. bachmann was backpedaling on her vaccine comment saying she didn't say that, i don't think that was credible. i think ron paul continues to be a very intriguing candidate, again not in line with mainstream republican thinking. i don't see him elevating himself to that poeub. huntsman had a good debate he's been showing he's picking up in polls in new hampshire. can he pick up in polls nationally. i think tonight he seemed steady, confident. if anybody might have had a breakthrough night i think it would have been john huntsman. overall, this being the sixth primary debate in this republican contest, i don't think there was much of a shake-up at any level scepter the gary johnson dog comment.
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and maybe a little moment for herman cain as he talked about his cancer and got that ovation from the entire room. the overall image that is being baked into the american mind by watching all of these debates on tv with this large number of republicans on stage is that they are becoming a republican party that is talking in isolationist terms. they want to do away with government, including education department. i remember ronald reagan issuing that report nation at risk. the states were not doing the job on education. that's why the feds got involved. do away with epa a lot of people wondering what about environmental protection? on lots of levels it looks like the party is talking to the party having an internal conversation. but the image it is creating of republicans, i think is pretty much that they are off to the side here. >> bret: mary catherine? >> i'm going to disagree a
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little. i think romney may have slowed his momentum a bit. he will still be one of the top two. i think he missed some obvious opportunities. i think when he was talking about books back and forth, he should have mentioned confidence man which is the latest book everyone is talking about in which romneycare is mentioned as the basis for obamacare, among obama's own people that would have been a nice hit and i think he missed it. romney is sort of slowing and steady wins the race. he's been competent and he continues to be. i think perry is going to have to get more practice in to overtake. >> bret: mary catherine, juan, charles, thank you very much. quick round with the panel here. interesting night chris, your thoughts >> i think that -- [ inaudible ]
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we asked the questions but they need to worry if they keep bickering like a couple that is not happily married they are going to come back to the field they need to rise above that. >> perry doubling down on policy with respect to illegal immigration will be a headline tomorrow. newt gingrich's answer in response to the mojo question about focusing on president obama and defeating him will be the moment. >> bret: there were funny moments, governor johnson and his dog. i thought herman cain had a big night, including his personal story about cancer that is it for us. thanks for watching. good night from orlando florida. but we are not done here. sean hannity is live in the spin room with the candidates. you do not

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