>> who wrote the script basically because he had a lot of time on his hands in the big house, thinks he's fine. >> we'll have a bunch of details for you just ahead. first we have to kick off your morning and a fox news alert. a gunman opened fire in the c.i.a. wing of the u.s. embassy in kabul, afghanistan. leaving one american dead. the gunman was an afghan national working for the embassy. he was shot dead. this is the third attack on u.s. buildings in kabul in the past two weeks. six men due in a london courtroom to face terror charges. three of them charged with plotting homicide attacks in

britain. police say two of them traveled to pakistan to learn how to make bombs and the other suspects are charged with withholding information and funding terrorism. five gruesome and mysterious murders rock a quiet rural town. it unfolded when they spotted a child wandering a road 50 miles southeast of indianapolis. that led police to the address where they discovered a body of a man. in the house across the street, they found two men and two women shot dead. it's not clear if the shooter is one of the deceased. after 781 days behind bars, the american hikers are happy to be home from iran but they are not happy with the iranian government. >> we had to go on hunger strikes repeatedly to receive letters from loved ones. many times, too many times, we heard the screams of other prisoners being beaten and there was nothing we could do to help them.

>> this was never about crossing the unmarked border between iran and iraq. we were held because of our nationality. >> josh fattal and shane bauer sprung by authorities in iman as part of a million dollar bond deal. john gotti outraged as john travolta being cast as the late mob boss. >> all right! let's see more of that. mob rat louis kazman tells "the new york post" travolta is too wimpy for the part. he added that teflon don never danced in his life. taking a jab at travolta's "saturday night fever" role, the part should have gone to a tougher guy like de niro or pacino. >> that's the problem. welcome back kotter, that was a tough kid that was wayward in

life like john gotti. >> those two guys have been in a million mob movies. how many mob movies for john travolta? >> you could have done it. you don't like to dance either. >> when movie of your life comes out, i'll make sure there's not a dancer. >> whoever plays me cannot dance. that will be fine. >> you can count on it. all right, let's talk about this. good news, it sounds like there is another government shutdown looming. but here's what's been going on in washington. the republicans passed a continuing resolution to fund the government through november 18th and in that, there was enou money to run fema and all the disaster stuff but they cut $200 million worth of stuff including some green programs, things that fund ed solyndra an stuff like that. the senate said not going to do it and they voted it down. >> could we be facing another shutdown? if you ask the number one advisor to the president who is on the sunday talk shows, he says this thing should go

through without any problems and there are certain people to blame and certain people who need to pay up. >> 22,000 millionaires pay less tax rate. under 15% so we have inequities. the american people are screaming out saying it's unfair that the wealthiest, the largest corporations who can afford the best attorneys, the best accountants, take advantage of these special tax treatments, the lobbyists along with lawmakers have cooked into the books here. >> david plouffe mounted the tv talk shows yesterday totally unprepared as if he's been hibernating for the entire last two months. he came out and said these statements. chris wallace nailed him to the floor. how much do you want them to pay? top 1% pay 38% and the top 1% pay 37%. when he talks about millionaires not paying their taxes, they're paying on the most part according to the irs

that republican organization, i guess, they say the millionaires in this country pay an average of 29% of federal income. if this is the fact, david plouffe says you didn't do anything with numbers. the irs can do anything with numbers. he's spouting out popular terms for bumper sticks but you would think a guy with his type of power representing the president as his chief advisor would have been more prepared to answer those questions. >> i don't think it has anything to do with being prepared. i think this is on purpose. you could argue then the president of the united states is not prepared to talk about the buffet rule. no, no, it's that their messaging, it's a populous message and until you get down into the deep details, it appears to sound pretty good but when you get into the details, that's when the questions start to arise, even mike bloomberg, the mayor of new york, an independent thinks that buffet rule that would tax people who make over a million dollars a year and only bring in, you know, a couple billion bucks, not even begin to touch the deficit, even he thinks that's

crazy. >> the buffet thing is just theatrics, if warren buffet made his money from ordinary income rather than capital gains, his tax rate would be a lot higher than his secretary's and a small percentage of people in this country pay a big chunk of the taxes. >> one of the things that michael bloomberg, the mayor of new york city suggested was let's raise everybody's taxes, what, 2%, 3%. something like that. he said the average middle class family would then pay about $150 more per year, millionaires would pay a whole bunch more but in the end, it would be fair and across the board and one of the facts that david plouffe did not mention is the shocking fact that 47% of the people in this country pay zero federal income tax. >> if you come out with a speech, that you don't think is going to get rebutted, for example, that politics stops for 2 1/2 years, it's going to take two minutes for everybody worth its salt to say wait a second, is what the president saying remotely true? is it backed up by any facts?

anyone watching the shows yesterday would have said to themselves, you got to be kidding me and now the president has to go out to the west coast and sell a plan that his own chief advisor can't even define? >> i'll tell you right now, he'll continue to say the exact same thing. this is the strategy that this administration has decided to take with 9.1% unemployment and no jobs on the horizon, this is the way in which they feel they can get re-elected. >> not solely. because they have another plan to go with that, gretchen, it's called, yeah, i might not be good but the other guy is really crazy. that's exactly what the president is saying. have you seen -- this is the quote from his fundraiser in california, i think it was last night, has anybody seen why -- been watching the debates lately? you got a governor whose state is on fire denying climate change. it's true. you got audience cheering at the prospects of somebody dying because they don't have health care and booing the service member in iraq because they're gay, they're not reflective of who we are, nor is that accurate to describe what the debates

were like. by the way, before there was global warming, if there is global warming, do you think there was ever a wildfire? i mean, if there was aire in texas, did texas just become dry? >> right, he was able to connect those three things and we heard a soundbite like that last week from some of the people on the left. he is already out west on a three day fundraising tour of the west and the mountain west, he was at the home of the chairman of semantic and here's the problem for the president, he has to get the big donors, the people he's saying don't pay their fair share because there's an item in "the new york times" today that talks about the small donors that he counted on last time that he'd sent out an e-mail blast, how about 10 bucks and how about 20 bucks, they would give all along the way through the election. this time, they're sitting on their hands because they are disillusioned with the guy who currently has the keys to air force one. >> if you want to go one of these fundraising dinners on the west coast, you only have to pony up $37,500. that's it. >> right.

everybody has that in the cookie jar. it's just a matter of where we're going to give it to. >> not really. let's talk about another story that may have you scratching your head this morning. apparently, high school coaches in westmoreland, tennessee, before the games, the football games when the prayer is read by the students, some of the coaches always did what they traditionally did which is to bow their heads and acknowledge a certain something was happening during that time. guess what, folks, now, they're in trouble. they're going to be in trouble potentially for actually just putting their head down a little bit. i think the quote was that they may not face or could lead to disciplinary action now. here was a quote. we've been telling our principles to kind of be looking for those things because that's the kind of shift in how things have been done. no that's what's called political correctness in our society. not a shift. a shift away from things as they always were to have the way in which a few people want to change society.

>> whether asking if bowing one's head is endorsing prayer, it depends what it looks like. that's what we look at in a gray area. the coaches weren't disciplined but made them sign letters indicating they understood the school's policy. >> because they looked down and bowed their head, they got in a little trouble. no disciplinary action, apparently. what if they would have looked up at the heavens? >> only if you score a touchdown. >> what if they would have nodded. here's the thing, that particular school board in westmoreland, tennessee has been on a hair trigger, the aclu sued them -- >> for violating church and state. >> they're on a hair trigger. next thing you know, somebody is looking down and someone is writing up a report. it's crazy. >> i got to give credit to an ref. an ref with courage. he said i've been refereeing football games in this town for years and this crackdown blew their mind. we should be able to bow our heads in reference to god wherever we are. it's time to draw the line in the sand and say, you know, this

is ridiculous. >> wait until a story we have coming up where a teacher called another person a nazi. they're going to face any disciplinary action but these coaches who bow their heads might face action. try to figure that out. >> i don't think we should have sports. so much easier without sports. new evidence proves pakistan helped attack a u.s. embassy overseas. now, some lawmakers want to respond with force. are we really considering another war in the middle east? senator mark kirk who is a navy veteran is up next. >> he's taking skydiving to all new heights. this stuntman wearing nothing but a pair of wings? >> are you kidding? >> is he bowing his head? >> i'm pretty sure. i would be. [ male announcer ] heard this one?

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>> america's top military officer admiral mike mullin has confirmed what many thought, pakistan not our friend. >> the network for one acts as a veritable arm of pakistan's internal services intelligence agency. with isi support, akani operatives planned and conducted that truck bomb attack as well as the assault on our embassy. >> strongest words used by a u.s. official against pakistan in 10 years. how should the u.s. deal with pakistan? joining us now to weigh in on this, republican senator from illinois, mark kirk, retired navy officer. you knew this. ha haqqani has not stopped, they attacked headquarters today. >> it's likely that the attack on the headquarters in afghanistan was the haqqani network. >> we know that senator lindsay

graham said last night, we know where we are, what they're doing, we heard their transmission over the last attack. one of haqqani's sons talking to attacker inside. would you support a hit on their network inside pakistani borders? >> i would. i think we should have u.s. drone strikes against the haqqani network. >> troops on the ground. would you seize -- would you license special forces to go? would you back that if that came to your knowledge? >> i think troops on the ground would be too extreme because then you might be engaging the pakistani military itself. but the haqqani leaders should fear us and we should be cleared hot for rolling in on their targets. >> they've been described like the sopranos, the mob. they have the same beliefs. >> they extort money from the united states itself by offering protection racket s to protect u.s. development assistance projects, especially the building of the big ring road around afghanistan so it's

smuggling lumber, dealing in drugs, ransoms, kidnapping for hire and extracting money from the united states itself. >> and the sons are more vial than their fathers so any hope that haqqani would reform and be an ally as they were in 1989 is out the window. do you think the senate would approve a funding bill and congress would allow government to continue on? >> i do. it's a pretty small battle right now, be resolved this week. we're talking about a six-week resolution to fund the government. big battle in washington is the super committee. and whether it hits its trillion dollar target and that's what everybody really should be focused on. >> some say democrats are motivated to come up with an answer to the super committee because they like what happens in response to not getting a deal. >> that's right. they think that creating a distinction makes a difference but in this case, markets are so unstable that i think any economic fallout from this battle will actually reflect on the president. >> what can you do about the examples of bureaucratic waste that include paying dead people

tens of millions of dollars. we're still making up benefits for people that have passed away. >> i think we need to slow down the u.s. spending machine and increase the oversight of congress. the senate is pretty asleep. most senate committees under older democratic chairmen aren't actually doing much in the way of oversight or hearing. the house, especially under congressman issa doing a much better job but we ought to have both chambers conducting oversight. >> do you think it will be avoided and back action against pakistan. senator, thanks so much for coming in. always good to see you in new york. >> you bet. >> coming up straight ahead, a high school teacher calls a tea party leader a nazi. but that teacher is not in any trouble. he's still teaching ki. then courting chris christie. why are g.o.p. leaders trying to convince him to run for president? our washington insiders up next.

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>> all right. time for some quick headlines for you on this monday morning. the plan to save greece and the rest of europe from default is starting to take shape after international monetary fund meetings in washington, d.c., the plan expected to involve a 50% write down on greece's debt. right now, some european markets are up on the news while asian markets closed down. and a friend of amanda knox says she can't sleep or eat as closing arguments begins today. knox is expected to take the stand this week asking an

italian court to throw out her murder conviction. she and her italian boyfriend found guilty of killing knox's british roommate. gretch? >> thank you, steve. chris christie possibly changing his mind now about a run for the white house in 2012? sources close to the new jersey governor's camp claim increasing pressure from high ranking republicans is now making him reconsider. is that really true? why is the g.o.p. still shopping for a candidate at all? our washington insiders, senior fellow of the independent women's forum sabrina schaefer and margy join me now. good morning to both of you ladies. let me start with you, i doubt these rumors are true. governor christie has gone on the record saying he'd have to die to get people to realize he's not going to run. do you think there's any truth to this? >> i don't know, i think there's a huge part of the republican primary electorate that's still very unhappy with mitt romney as the frontrunner and they're looking for an alternative. and i think that after three debates this month, there's a

lot of frustrated voters out there who see romney as very paulish behind the podium but seems to lack a certain authenticity and still looking for someone who may be able to fill that position as frontrunner. >> do you think, though, it could be democrats who are putting this story out there about chris christie to make the pool of g.o.p. contenders less effective? >> no, absolutely not. there is genuine -- i mean, just as we were saying, genuine dissatisfaction among republican primary voters. they feel this is the first time in four decades where there's no clear republican frontrunner and there has been all of these flavor of the months, flavor of the weeks here. h herman cain, michelle bachmann, democrats are not behind this. this is real republican concern that they don't have a candidate who is both energizing to the base as well as able to demonstrate some basic competency in talking about what they're going to do. >> but if you look back in history, i mean, we all thought

hillary clinton was going to be the democratic nominee. i don't know if that's totally fair. >> on the republican side, if you look back in 2008 at this time, you had fred thompson and rudy giuliani taking this race away from anyone else. john mccain had 13% of the vote. how do you explain that, sabrina? >> well, i think there's still -- one of the challenges for any of the candidates like perry in fact and now like christie, coming in this late in the game, it's difficult to jump from the state level to the national stage. i think we've seen that and that will be a big challenge for christie so i think he would have to be, you know, thinking about this very carefully before jumping in because i think he can -- if he's just preparing four years from now, that might be one thing. i don't think there's really room for him as well as he's beyond prepared. >> let me ask you this, would democrats be nervous if chris christie decided to jump into the race? >> i'm also from new jersey so i can appreciate a time or find familiar the bluntness of chris christie during the storm, for

example, but there are many incidents where he literally yells at a voter and that's just not something that i think a lot of voters are really going to appreciate. toughness is one thing. screaming at the voters is something people don't really like in their presidents. >> and i think that adding to that, a lot of voters would be surprised to find out that christie is not as conservative as they may think he is. he like romney and giuliani is a republican with blue state baggage. they may not be happy with him on gun control, that might add dynamic to the election. >> very interesting. we'll see what happens this week. thanks so much for getting up early on a monday. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> police commissioner of new york city, ray kelly, dropping a bomb last night. the nypd ready to blow a rogue plane right out of the sky. do they have the capacity to do that? then an episode of "pawn stars" you've never seen before starring our own courtney friel. she's taking us behind the scenes of the hit show and she has something of her own.

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>> welcome back to "fox and friends" on this busy monday morning. last tuesday, down in san antonio, they had a local town hall about the dream act. which is one of those things if illegal aliens come to this country and have children, they'd be able to stay and something they'd be talking about in congress trying to get it passed for a number of years, you're about to see between local tea party leader and a local high school government teacher. listen to this. >> again, folks, if the person is here illegally and the breaking of the law, they have broken the law or breaking the law, what do you want us to say? you know what i would have? i would have you teach more balanced conservative thoughts rather than just bringing folks -- bringing liberal ideals and

placards here. >> you can just say what you are, a nazi. >> ouch! >> appalled he called the chair of the tea party in that community a nazi. remember, that's a teacher. now, what should happen to that teacher for calling somebody else a nazi? he was the head of the tea party. apparently, because students were not required to be at this event. >> they were invited. >> they were invited. but they weren't required to be there, as you can see, though, lots of students right behind him there. he's not going to face any disciplinary action, he's been with this school for six years and they say he's a good teacher so nothing is going to happen to him. it flies in the face to some of the other stuff we've seen, the story we talked about, for example, the coaches that accidentally bowed their head for a prayer before a football game. >> i wonder if that class if they would give the other side. are they going to say here's some people that are for the dream act, tell me what you think or sit there and say let

me tell you why the dream act has to be passed. >> i have a question for you, what would happen if a teacher stood up and called the teacher a nazi? would he get suspend ed? >> absolutely. >> let me tell you something, i know you know the war of terror is going on, you've accepted that. can you accept the war on salt? >> you mean salt -- >> no, not an acronym. it actually means the salt itself, the think you shake on your food and yell at kids to stop shaking. you have to have permission to use. >> right. >> but there is an official war on salt despite recent studies that show salt isn't that bad for you. >> f.d.a. has opened up a formal inquiry into salt reduction, so what is that going to mean? will we see that you can't eat salt in your own home potentially? they've already done that with smoking, etc., not really sure. interesting thing is some people are told to eat more salt like me. eat more salt, your blood pressure is too low. so, you know, you can't really just apply this across the board for everyone.

>> new study that shows, they did a study and they showed certain people over a long term, they showed over time, cardiovascular death rate was highest among those with less salt. can you put that on before we start a war on salt? >> the science is not settled and yet, government has a bee in their bonnet. they want us to stop eating so much salt and sugar and stuff like that. the food police are rearing their head now that they have called for public comments on how to achieve salt reduction across the country. goodie. >> all right, now, no headline reduction, we have plenty of those. starting with this story locally. new york city police commissioner ray kelly dropped a bombshell last night on "60 minutes." he says the new york city police department it take todown terro planes from the sky. straight from the sky. listen. >> in an extreme situation, you'd have some means to take down a plane. >> do you mine to say that the

nypd has the means to take down an aircraft? >> yes, i'd prefer to not get into the details but obviously, this would be in a very extreme situation. >> i'd say so. kelly not giving details of what's in his arsenal but sources telling "new york post" the weapon he's referring to is a 50 caliber rifle which can be mounted on almost any police chopper. >> death of a patient at a hospital in oakland inflaming an intense labor dispute two days after nurses went on strike. a replacement nurse gave a woman the wrong medication and the patient died. the replacement nurses are trained and experienced enough to do the job, but the striking nurses say it wouldn't have happened on their watch. they're expected to be back on the job tomorrow. >> an emotional diana nayad arrived in key west following her third unsuccessful attempt. she ended her journey after doctors said another jelly fish

sting could kill her. >> i know i can do it. everybody else knows but i just didn't get there. it's not going to happen. >> nyad close to 77 miles of the 103 mile trip. she was almost there. >> it's a bird. it's a plane. no, it's actually a wing man, jumped out of a helicopter at 6,000 feet and soared through the air at 7,000 miles an hour straight through some narrow gaps in the mountains. this is southern china. his wing suit has thin membranes between his arms and body that allow him to glide through the air before making a parachute landing. i thought we said the guy was nude. >> i thought new. >> the tease before said he was nude. >> yeah, i was paying attention to wait for that. >> streaker flier. so he's completely clothed. >> shoot! >> meanwhile, let's take a look

-- >> he's just wearing his membranes. >> thanks for noticing. listen, you want to wear something with some scotch guard on it if you're in portions of the great lakes through the ohio valley at this hour because it is -- we got a thunderstorm roaring. as you can see right down through portions of the dixieland area right now, also some widely scattered showers in portions of florida through the mid atlantic. current temperatures as you head out the door to school or work or wherever the heck they're going, look at that, 68 right now in new york city. we got 70 in raleigh and the same for atlanta. in the central plain states, temperatures in the mid to upper 40's. 50's in the northern plains. 60's and 70's down south. let's take a look at the day ahead on this, the first monday of oughted up. look at that. today, 102 in san antonio, down where they were calling that tea party guy a nazi. it will be 81 in raleigh. temperatures for the most part, 60's and 70's throughout the northeast. the same out west where phoenix

later on today should top out at 100 degrees. that's a quick look at the fox travelcast. we look at the guy with the red tie. >> i think i know what the confusion is, gretchen, everybody who played in the nfl yesterday and scored a touchdown was nude. >> really? >> we're about to see the footage. there were plenty of great games and great players. let's begin with the giants, has nothing to do with the fact that scott loves the giants. new york giants undrafted wide receiver, wasn't supposed to play this year, he ends up in starting line-up, two touchdowns, the first two of his nfl career. critical moments as the giants shocked the eagles 29-16. michael vick broke his hand in the second half. it's his nonthrowing hand. we'll see if he plays next week. best comeback. it has to go with detroit lions. lions were down 20-0 to the minnesota vikings. she shut off the tv and suddenly detroit went crazy. showed why he was the number one pick overall two years ago.

two touchdown strikes. lions win in overtime 26-23. minnesota has now blown big leads in all three of their games. finally, biggest upset and this is a tough one. the buffalo bills stunned tom brady and the new england patriots. hear the crowd roar. new england was rolling in this game. didn't they beat buffalo 16 in a row? then tom brady started throwing this game away. the great tom brady made some mistakes. nobody seems to notice that. in the end, the buffalo bills battle all the way back, tie it and win it with a field goal. the pats win -- the pats lose 34-31. great weekend in the nfl and coming up on radio, i know it's hard to think about that when this show actually ends but between 9:00 and noon, bret baier, ed henry, ed rollins and michael goodwin will be joining me. >> all right. sounds like fantastic characters. in the meantime, coming up next on our show, under the president's plan to cut the budget, veterans might have to pay for health care that used to be free. is that a dishonor to their

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>> welcome back, everyone. for the first time, saudi arabia's king allowing women to vote in local elections. >> just can't drive there. >> women will be allowed to run as candidates. stop! however, that doesn't change -- that doesn't go into -- here's the kicker, doesn't go in effect for three years. women are still not allowed to drive. illegal immigrant named eduardo

torres busted for drunk driving near boston, sixth time he's been arrested for driving drunk. in fact, he was deported for it but somehow got back into the country. he just walked in as so many other people do. >> or drove in. all right, the guys -- the guys at gold and silver pawnshop in las vegas have gone from simple pawnshop owners to huge celebrities. the reality show "pawn stars" has caused their popularity to skyrocket. our own courtney friel had a chance to catch up with them out in las vegas. >> happy monday. yes, i love these guys and -- >> so does brian. >> and now, the number one show on cable television and their pawnshop is the number one tourist destination in las vegas and they have thousands of people visit every day. it's so hard for the guys to get their work done, you know, can be a little bit of a hassle having all those tourists there but hey, they're very grateful and i had a chance to catch up with them. take a look.

>> rick harrison, old man, the stars of "pawn stars." did you guys ever think this show would be as successful as it is? >> no, never. we thought we'd get a season or two and that would be it. help business out a little bit. we never thought it would be like this. >> what is your newfound fame like? >> pain in the ass. >> you get recognized on the streets? >> yes. >> are you happy to sign autographs? >> i do it all the time. it's no big thing. >> and what's the schedule like? the shooting schedule? >> 12 hours a day, five days a week. >> what's your favorite piece you've bought over the years? >> mine so far is the wolitzer because it came with a great story that a local billionaire here in town came and sold it to me and the police said he made a mistake and he stole it. >> what sort of thing sells the best here? >> t-shirts.

some of the stuff sits on the wall for years but eventually it will sell. >> you sell some of your items on line, right? >> we sell lots of items on line. >> you have your own i love chumley shirt. >> i do. we have to get you one of those. >> yeah, i want to sport one of those. are you dating anyone? >> i'm not. i'm not. >> you're single and on the market. >> i didn't say i was on the market. >> what percentage of stuff in the shop do you buy? >> most of the stuff i do is actually pawns. but you never really see that on the show because most people pawning stuff really don't want to be on television and sometimes it's a little embarrassing. >> if you weren't in this business, could you see yourself doing anything else? >> nope. it's the funnest business in the world, it really is. i get to meet all kinds of different people and i get to see different things every day. it's fun. >> and good news, "pawn star" fans back in july they signed on to shoot four more seasons of the show and go to foxnews.com or my facebook page because part

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>> they put their lives on the line for this country but now president obama is suggesting that they should pay more for their health care. the commander in chief is proposing a $200 a year increase as well as raising co-payments on retired military. that has many veterans' groups up in arms including the vfw and their 1.5 million members as

well. joining us now is the commander in chief of the vfw, richard dean moyer. good morning to you, richard. >> good morning! >> the president says if i do this stuff, i could save $6.7 billion over 10 years. what does your -- what does your membership say about him raising, in particular, $200 annual fees if people want to continue with tricare for life? >> well, the issue would be is what is -- what is the cost of a volunteer armed forces? what is our country willing to pay to protect our nation. basically speaking, i think that we need to really address that issue. the current administration, they've never served in the military. they're not familiar with military service. they are trying to equate it with a typical government job and it's not a typical

government job. we have to have -- we have to have benefits that entice young people to be willing to stay in the military. 1%, less than 1% actually, served in the military and of that 1%, 10% of that 1% actually stay for 20 years or more. >> sure. >> what are we willing to pay for that to protect this country and keep it free? national security is the issue. >> it's such a good point. so not only would it hurt recruitment, you say, but also a lot of these men and women are on fixed incomes and for the government then to say hey, if you want to continue with this deal, we told you you'd have for free for $200, that's going to impact a lot of people. >> well, $200 in itself doesn't seem much but the president's plan actually uses the adjective initial payment. so we interpret that to mean that next year it will go up and it will go up after that.

the average retiree is not a current general. the average retiree is on the seventh enlisted pay grade which means they're sergeants or chief petty officers in the navy and we might equate them to the blue collar folks. and when they leave, they leave at around 40 years old, average age and they go into another job mainly because the retirement in itself isn't enough to live on. and they work in another job for another 20 years possibly and then retire and as you've already alluded to, they go on a fixed income. and therefore, $200 with an increase every year can turn out to be a little more than they might be able to bear. >> absolutely. >> all right. well, let's find out what the president does do going forward. richard denoyer, commander in chief of the vfw, thank you very much for joining us today from boston and thank you for your service. >> the veterans of four wars

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>> good morning, every one. hope you had a great weekend. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time. president obama hits the left

coast to raise campaign cash, his administration is working overtime in washington to try to raise taxes. so is this about the economy? or the election? we report and you can decide. >> he's running. all right, two straw polls this weekend and two winners. herman cain and mitt romney get a big boost. will these victories translate to votes or is it too early? i mean too as in two o's. former white house press secretary dana perino weighs in. >> and our country is deeply in debt so is now the time to build a shiny new building in the shadow of the united nations for the united nations? and why are u.s. taxpayers probably going to get the bill that could be half a billion dollars? oh, man. "fox and friends" hour two for a monday starts right now. >> monday morning. starting the week off exactly right. >> what do you mean?

herman cain. you have to figure he's having a good week. >> no doubt. >> nine, nine, nine, mighty fine, fine. fine. >> it was surprised he got 37% of the vote in the straw poll in florida. >> and governor rick scott shortly, he predicted whoever wins the straw poll will become the next president. >> we'll see what he says today. let's start with your headlines now, mysterious murders rock a quiet rural town in indiana. it all unfolded when good samaritans spotted a child wandering on the road in the town of laurel, 50 miles southeast of indianapolis. that led police to an address where they discovered the body of a man in a house across the street, officers found two men and two women shot dead. right now, it's not clear if the shooter is one of the deceased. a gunman opens fire in the c.i.a. wing of the u.s. embassy in kabul, afghanistan, leaving one american dead. fox news has confirm that the g gunman was an afghan national working for the embassy.

this is the third attack in the past two weeks. chris christie's busy fundraising schedule sparking some hope among some republicans he's reconsidering a run for the white house. today, he's stopping in missouri before heading to california and louisiana later in the week. despite speculation, the governor of new jersey has inside numerous times he's staying put as governor of the garden state. you can end up footing the bill for the united nations building. the u.n. is in the final stages of getting a permit to build a second building on the site of a manhattan playground. it's expected to cost $475 million and u.s. taxpayers already pay about 22% of the u.n.'s annual operating budget. taxpayer watchdogs are wondering why the obama administration or congress has not held any hearings on this plan and those are your headlines especially when you consider that the u.n. allows ahmadinejad, the leader of u.n. to come in and spew hate and also the whole controversy

about the palestinians getting their own state. i mean, all these kinds of controversies and the taxpayers are footing the bill. >> dana perino, i'm pretty sure that steve has paid for your appearance today. >> going to have a bake sale later. >> when gretchen just said it was going to be built on the site of a manhattan playground, i thought how perfect because that's what the u.n. has been for years. for all the diplomats around the world get to live and play there. >> touche. >> touche. >> all right. you think we'll have a government shutdown today? >> i don't. i think that the democrats have thought that making this very political would help them making the republicans look unreasonable and they wanted to shut down the government would be a good political strategy for the democrats. i don't think it's worked out that way. i don't think it looks good for anybody in congress. but i will bet you that they get to some sort of a deal and we won't have a shutdown tonight. >> yeah. that's good. david plouffe, the president's super advisor was on the chat shows yesterday and among other

things, he said that republicans are putting the demands of 30 tea party members of congress over the needs of 300 million americans. he also said that the very successful people, the job creators, they got to pay more. listen to this. >> 22,000 millionaires pay less effective tax rate. under 15%. so we have inequities, the american people are screaming out saying it's unfair that the wealthiest, the largest corporations who can afford the best attorneys, the best accountants, take advantage of these special tax treatments, the lobbyists have along with lawmakers have cooked into the books here. >> i don't know if david plouffe is the guy that devised the class warfare strategy, he sure was grinding it out yesterday. >> the problem for him is his performances yesterday across the sunday shows was woefully inaccurate. >> why? >> woefully inadequate. >> because he can't even explain

with conviction his own positions. the talking points that they have tried to put out that the tea party members are the only ones that matter in this country, everybody else is suffering at their hands is not working for them and i think from a communications standpoint, they should just press the reset button, get back, and look at what they're trying to do because they're -- their numbers from an approval ratings standpoint on the economy and overall continue to slide down the more they use this language. >> dana, i was thinking watching that yesterday that maybe this is just all part of the strategy because isn't the re-election strategy to blame republicans in congress. they know they'll have the 9.1% unemployment rate probably when election time comes around. even if they can't explain the numbers, it's still a populous stance to say let's tax the rich because the polls show that the majority of americans kind of like that. so if you think that plays into this at all? >> you're right. it does sound really good and it

does poll well in some areas. however, if you dig just a little bit deeper, because their assumption is that americans don't understand the economy, they're not going to really pay attention to the details and they only care about the soundbites, you know, taxing the wealthy, the problem is in many states and i just read this this morning including states that president obama won in 2008 like wisconsin, iowa, indiana, michigan, those are all states now that it looks like he could lose. and it's because they're not effectively making the job creation argument and taxing the wealthy is not working there. so they've got problems across the board because even members of their own party, i could list nine senate democrats off the top of my head who have already come out and said that's not going to fly with us. but they're pressing for a bill that won't pass but it's not just republicans who won't pass it. >> no one talks about that. mayor bloomberg was the mvp on the talk shows with a surprising

soundbite. one thing he said yesterday is true. that the buffet rule is a joke. it's theatrics because he doesn't have, he doesn't have traditional income. he's got the capital gains income. and he went on to say that the rich are paying their fair share. they're paying 29%. you make $40,000, 12%. $20,000, 5% and 47% of the country doesn't pay any so the problem with this argument is the irs and the a.p. say it's not true! meanwhile, yesterday's straw poll came out and it looks like michigan goes to romney. not a surprise. by the margin 50% to twhat perr is surprising, but the big deal is herman cain in florida, 37%. perry with 15%. romney with 14%. what's your analysis? >> remember last monday when we were in florida at the villages all together, i was chitchatting to some people that lived there

and work amongst the villages and i just asked them, you know, who do you like in the republican primary? and interestingly, one of them said, you know, i really like cain. he's come and visited us. he's explained his policies to us. and you know, i can relate to him. i asked them, what about perry or bachmann? they said they've not come. we've not seen them so i don't know if herman cain's win in florida translates to him getting the nomination. i know there's a tradition you can look at history and say that might be so but i do think that it means that that type of retail politics, going and visiting people, shaking hands, sitting down, explaining to them what your policies are makes a huge difference. he beat perry by nearly 20 points in that straw poll on saturday. >> and do you buy into -- a lot of people said that, you know, it looked like rick perry was going to absolutely walk away with it becausee had a terrible performance at the fox google debate, people took a second look at cain and the thing that's attractive about

herman cain is his 9-9-9 plan is so simple to understand. >> it is simple to understand because it's -- again, good soundbites work. i like his ideas, i'm concerned a little bit because while i am for tax reduction and tax reform that would spur the economy and get us more revenues that way instead of through more taxes, he would do a 9% income on -- 9% tax on income and on sales tax. >> right. >> what concerns me is when you combine income with the sales tax, you end up with a creeping tax system like they've had in the u.k., you know, i lived in the u.k. for a while and i can see how that chipped away althouat people's freedoms eventually because the money runs out. >> with the sales tax, there are so many people in this country, 47% don't pay any federal tax. at least they'd wind up paying a sales tax on the stuff they'd buy. so you wind up with some money from some people who don't pay. >> then wealthy would pay more,

right? because wealthy people buy more things, more expensive things and so i wouldn't -- i'm not necessarily against that. i don't like combining the income and the sales tax into one. >> all right. we'll see what happens as we move on in the coming weeks with herman cain after that big win in florida. got to get you to this next topic because apparently the president is fundraising now with a supporter whose company got $100 million in stimulus. is this a conflict of interest or just politics? >> it's not necessarily a conflict of interest but because we have the solyndra cloud hanging over the administration, it does lead to some questions and the federal government does do some good research and development funding of important technologies, the problem with the solyndra case is it looks like they got preferential treatments for a deal that their own career civil servant said was not ready for primetime and yet they felt pressured from the west wing to put it out there and president obama went three times, they've got a problem.

this company wins capital in missouri. maybe they have a totally legitimate reason and great new technology that we should be funding. to see if it can get off the ground and help add to our energy mix, but the problem for them is that they -- they have the solyndra problem and then they ignored the solyndra problem as if it was a right wing plot. i have to tell you in my experience, if the f.b.i., the inspector general, the government accountability office and congressional oversight to name a few are all looking into your company, you have a problem and the president of the united states ought to be briefed about it rather than just pretending like it's not a big deal. that's their bigger problem. >> right. tom carnahan is the guy in charge and they have $107 million with the capital group. dana, we'll watch you at 5:00 today. i wouldn't be surprised if you slip that story in. i'm not telling you what to do. >> i said it friday and bob beckle's head almost exploded. >> it was great.

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>> a middle east showdown at the u.n. last week. palestinian president mahmoud abbas defying u.s. orders by applying for full u.n. statehood for palestine and creating a logo ignoring israel's existence. great. now, the president of the united states wants both sides to talk

peace. is that a slap in the face to jewish-americans? with the high holy days just a few days away. rabbi joseph patasnik is the executive vice president of the new york board of rabbis and host of wabc's radio "religion on the line" which i listen to. it's a great show. >> thank you so much. >> what do you think about this? our president saying the palestinians and the israelis need to sit down at a table and work this out, even though the palestinians want israel wiped off the map? >> well, it's a nice concept but the reality is after four wars, two intifadas, we don't have a partner for peace and the only way you're going to realize peace is sit down and talk about peace. i find it interesting that here you have abbas coming to the u.n., not recognizing israel, calling it a 63-year-old power and asking the u.n. to recognize palestinians. we would love to see negotiations, we'd love to see a resolution but it's not going to come by soundbites and talking

to a camera. >> mr. abbas has said anything that the quartet of nations in these talks, anything they come up, even if it's a fantastic idea, he's going to reject. >> yeah, it's hard to accept that anyone really wants peace. if that's the stance you're going to take, preconditions don't work. netanyahu who extended his hand and said let's sit down, in religious law, if you want to have peace, you got to look at the person. you got to talk to the person. you have to extend your hand to the person. if you don't have someone else to reciprocate, you won't find peace. that's been shown over and over again. this is right before the high holy days. is this a factor in this kind of rejectionism? look, you've had muslims killing muslims during ramadan and christians being attacked during christmas. i don't think the high holy days makes a difference here. >> benjamin netanyahu was on "meet the press" yesterday and had to say about it. >> do not believe that anyone

with a shred of conscience can reject our application for membership in the united nations and our admission as an independent state. >> the palestinians want a state but they have to give peace in return. what they're trying to do in the united nations is give a state without giving israel peace or giving israel peace and security. >> what do you think? >> i think when you look back at egypt when egypt was willing to sit down, egypt did very well. history has shown where parties are sincere and serious about peace, they can achieve it. you can't just do it by waving an envelope and saying here's the application. >> the israelis are serious. >> well -- >> are the palestinians? >> so far, we haven't seen that side of seriousness. but for the holy days, we'll pray for peace but you have to perform. >> we're all praying for peace.

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>> all right. time for the news by the numbers on this monday morning. first, $3.54. that's the average price of a gallon of gas. the number down 12 cents from the previous two weeks.

that's good. next, three. that's how many years boeing was behind schedule in delivering its 787 dreamliner to japan's on the pond airways. the plane takes off for tokyo tomorrow and service starts october 26th. that's a cool airplane. and finally, 22.1 million dollars. that's how much money "the lion king" made at the box office. hello, simba taking the number one spot for the second week in a row. it beat brad pitt's new movie "money ball." >> which i say, by the way. >> how is it? >> brad pitt is on every scene all the time. staring, squinting. >> dream come true. >> yes. 23 minutes after the hour. usda recommends that we eat a minimum of three ounces of whole grains a day. did you know that eating two slices of whole grain bread can increase your blood sugar more than two tablespoons of pure sugar cane can? and an increased blood sugar means more fat and a higher chance of developing diabetes.

>> that doesn't sound too good. our next guest says the best way to get healthy and lose weight is to ditch wheat completely. joining us now is dr. william davis, preventative cardioologist and author of the new book "wheat belly." good morning to you, doctor. >> good morning. >> so the amazing thing here is that you say that wheat, whole wheat is actually an appetite stimulant, right? >> exactly. that's a crucial point to understand how wheat interacts with humans. there's an odd protein unique to wheat and this protein has essentially been reengineered over the past 40 years by some very clever geneticists. what they've done in effect is created a plant that causes appetite stimulation. >> it creates appetite stimulation. this is what i've heard, forget the white bread. have wheat and it's better. you still are anti-bread but you

think wheat is bad but less bad than white, correct? >> it's a small difference. i would say it's a difference similar to if i tell you, unfiltered cigarettes like marlboros are bad for you and filtered cigarettes are less bad. by that line of logic, i'd say let's smoke lots of salem cigarettes. >> so here's the interesting thing, if people should not eat as much wheat, then, maybe they should go to some of that gluten free stuff that you see in the grocery store. my daughter, in fact, has a friend who can't eat wheat so i always have it on hand. but you say that that's not necessarily the best choice either. >> exactly. we don't want to replace one problem with yet another problem. so the problem is the gluten free world, that is the processed foods used to replace the gluten products like bread is that even if some multigrain gluten free bread, it's always

made -- almost always made of rice starch, tapioca starch, these raise blood sugars very high and cause visceral fat to accumulate and make us diabetic and give us arthritis, i wouldn't want to trade one problem area, wheat for another problem area, gluten free. >> what bothers me most, if this is true and, you know, have a lot of facts to back you up, everybody told us to eat the whole wheat. they told us to eat oat bran and that ended up not being true and they have us eating wheat bread for 10 years, now that's not true. what are we to believe anymore besides gretchen? >> well, that's right. we've made our sort of blunders over the years. i think we have to come away with this with some lessons. i do a lot of this in practice. and i thought this -- let me tell you how i started this odd little adventure. i was very frustrated with a number of people who are diabetic or prediabetic. my practice is a preventative cardioologist practice but 80%

of people coming through my office were prediabetic or the rest are called pre-prediabetic so i used simple reasoning. two slices of whole wheat bread, as you point out, raise blood sugar higher than northerly all other foods so i had my patients take wheat out of their diet and they'd come back three months later 30 pounds lighter but tell me all these stories i did not expect. things like my rheumatoid arthritis is so much better. i stopped two drugs. my asthma is so much better that i threw away two inhaleers, leg swelling went away, rash i had went away and on and on. >> it's very interesting. so people should take note of what you're saying right now. you're the author of wheat belly. you fell into the whole thing. that's the way things are discovered. dr. william davis. thank you so much, very insightful this morning. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> right. so stay away from whole wheat and i guess -- >> what can we eat? >> maybe just lucky charms. >> vegetables and lean meats, right? >> did you say lucky charms?

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>> it's your shot of the morning right now, brian. check out these sea dogs, hanging 10 in dell mar, california, more than 80 canines competed in the sixth annual surf dog surf-a-thon raising money for a local animal center. >> none of them look happy. the top dog was 14-year-old jack russell terrier i believe named buddy. there he is in a still. it was the surf dog hall of famer's fifth win. and that is -- the dogs don't look happy. >> i think that they probably enjoy it. >> it's the fear on their face that makes them look not happy. >> ok. let's go outside and see if

there's any surfing going on out there. we've had so much rain recently. >> i don't know why you would say that the dog would not be happy because after all, moon doggie, moon doggie, do you see that? see where that comes from? maybe you don't. >> i don't really. >> huh? >> but i don't think you saw the face, the face of these dogs is like what has my master done? i've trusted you with everything. i've done everything you've asked. i sit, i wag my tail, i don't slash my food and you send me out in the ocean on a board? >> you know, if caesar milan decides to stop being the dog whisperer, you have a bright career interpreting what dogs think. >> a lot of people are urging me to do something else. >> i know. i've heard that every day. >> let's go ahead on this monday and take a look at the day ahead weatherwise and as you can see, we have some big thunderstorms. i got an e-mail from tom in cincinnati and he said that lightning, thunder, big storm day there in that portion of the ohio valley. and as you can see, the storms extend down through portions of dixieland and up through the

great lakes. also, some mid atlantic action right down through portions of florida. next map will show you what the current temperatures are as you head out the door on this monday. it's 69 in cleveland. 55 in chicagoland. 47 in kansas city. 10 better than that in memphis. one more map shows you the daytime highs on this first monday in fall. it's going to be 102 in san antonio. that feels like summer, not autumn. 100 today in phoenix. it looks like 91 and it's going to be real humid as well in new orleans. we've had a lot of humidity throughout the northeast. it will continue today. daytime high of 79 degrees. meanwhile, look at all these people that suddenly it's a flash mob in front of fox newschannel. this is liz burns. good morning. >> good morning! >> you are inviting ourest viewing audience to go to the franchise chili's where i love the chicken tacos, they're fantastic with a beer the size of my head, people should go

there today, why? >> you can visit any chili's today and we're donating 100% of our profits to saint jude's children's hospital. >> you're working for the kids today. this girl has a sign create a pepper to go to cancer. when you go to chili's, not all the money goes to saint jude's but you can be a chili's picasso. >> that's right. you can color a pepper and we donate 100% of that to st. jude's as well. you can buy one of these t-shirts or go to create a pepper.com. >> what does that say? >> hope. it helps the kids. >> that's fantastic. all right, chili's across the country today. >> all the chili's nationwide. that's right! >> all right. thanks everybody. >> very nicely done. >> all right, gretch, brian, back to you. >> friendliest flash mob you've faced in a while, steve. good job. let's take a look at the headlines. scottish prosecutors asking libya's interim rulers to help

them track down additional suspects in the bombing of pan am flight 103. 270 people on that plane and on the ground were killed on that day. convicted bomber abdelbaset ali al-megrahi was released from prison two years ago because he was reportedly dying from cancer but he's still alive. they don't think he acted alone. >> the search continues today for a 20-year-old man traveling abroad. he was with a group hiking above the ganges river when he twisted his ankle and fell 100 yards. it's believed he could have survived the fall. brian? >> all right. another republican presidential candidate knocking on donald trump's door. this time it's mitt romney who will be meeting with the real estate mogul in new york today. trump has already met with rick perry a bunch of times. michelle bachmann and pizza with sarah palin. what's donald going to tell mitt? we're going to ask him. we're bragging now. mr. trump joins us live here at 8:30 eastern time on "fox and

friends." also, an attack ad using his name from the dnc. >> a colorado woman gets the shock of her life when she opened up her water bill, she was expecting a bill, let's say about $400. instead it was $53,000. >> hey! >> charging her for using eight million gallons of water. >> the only thing i can think of is a software glitch. something happened, something tripped something in the software and just spit it out so i'm pretty sure that's what happened. >> the city's utilities department expected to fix the error when it opens for business this morning. that's what i feel when i open my water bill. >> someone left the hose on. >> the sunshine state, governor rick scott when we were there at the villages, he told me whoever won the florida straw poll would end up in the white house. >> in 1979, reagan won the straw poll and went to president. next president. in 1987, h.w. bush did. and he was the next president.

in 1995, dole did. won the straw poll and he won the nomination so i believe whoever wins this straw poll on saturday will be the republican nominee and i believe the republican nominee will be the next president. >> now that we have a winner, does the governor still stand by his word? florida governor rick scott joins us now. good morning to you, governor. >> good morning. well, herman cain had the right message. it's the same message i had last year when i ran, it's jobs. he got his message out. he spent a lot of time in florida. so i think he's a formal competitor. in the end, we'll see if history repeats itself. it's going to be about jobs and that was the whole issue down here. he had the right message on jobs. >> you stand by it, though. you stand by what you originally said that he will be the g.o.p. nominee and potentially the president? >> gretchen, these are the activists, we had 3500 people here. they're the activists. they're the ones going to get out there and they spoke, they spoke big 37%.

so i think if you're going to beat herman cain, you'll have to spend a lot of time in florida, you're going to have to a better message on job creation. his background is similar to mine, didn't start with any money. has a successful business career. that's the message that's working in florida. >> right. governor, i have to tell you in the big picture, if you want jobs, you have to look at texas but rick perry, i guess his performance in the debates, some are saying is what destroyed him in the straw poll. what does your gut tell you? >> well, i think that -- i think it was real positive that herman cain, he spent a lot of time here first off before this weekend, but he spent a lot of time here. he was there saturday afternoon giving a great speech. and so what tells you is whoever is going to win and i think you have to, you know, give it to herman cain right now, whoever is going to win has put a lot of time and effort into florida and they'll have a jobs message. >> yeah and retail politics always very important. what about brian's point about rick perry's performance? you know accide, a lot of peopl he didn't do badly and ahead of

your straw poll, your predictions were that rick perry was going to walk away with it. you think his performance did impact the results. >> you know what he didn't talk about -- he didn't talk about what his biggest strength. his biggest strength is i compete with him every day for jobs. i'm trying to make sure i beat him every day and he didn't get that message out in the debate. so he's going to have to get his message out that he's had a lot of success creating jobs. if he doesn't, he's not going to win florida. >> what do you make of the fact that some of the candidates said they weren't actively trying to be a part of the straw poll? i think michelle bachmann was one of them and mitt romney, i'm not sure of the other ones. did that play into them not doing as well, then? >> no, think about it, gretchen. if you were at the straw poll, you haa ticket to the debate, you know, we had, what, 5500 people there at the debate so you were there. you were there at cpac. they all spoke -- i think they all spoke at cpac.

i'm not sure about michelle bachmann but they spoke on friday. everybody was there. and the only difference was they didn't speak saturday afternoon. so they were there. they were on the ballot. they participated. >> governor, i got to ask you real quick, the last governor that had your job tilted this election because when he went and said my endorsement is for john mccain, not mitt romney, you come out before the primary and decide who is the best for the g.o.p. in your state, will you come out? >> i'm not sure if i will or won't. i've not come out right now. i like primaries and he went through tough primary. my case, it may -- you know, for them to get the message out. who has the right message? it is about in this state, it's about -- we've had a lot of success in jobs this year but it's about jobs. jobs, jobs, jobs. >> sure. and in your job, you were nice enough. one week ago today, to come to the villages, to talk to gretch and join all those people, thank you very much for making the big trip out to the villages, sir. >> that was fun. >> it was fun. >> see you again some time soon.

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she and her italian boyfriend found guilty of killing her british college roommate. meanwhile, prince william delaying plans to become a full time royal. he's reportedly told the queen he's staying in the royal air force even after he's due to leave in two years. the queen is said to be supportive of her 29-year-old grandson's decision. very nice. all right, brian, over to you and peter. >> steve, if anything happens on that story, interrupt us, promise? >> indeed. >> the president attacks the g.o.p. and lashes out at republicans, is the president spending more time on job creation or his re-election? let's ask that to fox news's own legal analyst, peter johnson jr. >> good morning. in effect, the president is saying that the american people are stupid, dissatisfied electorate who are poisoned and brainwashed by fox news and "the wall street journal." are you? so that's what he's basically saying. and so he's saying to these certain red meat audiences that

i'm really disgusted by the reaction to the republican electorate to the debate, i'm disgusted by their policies. david plouffe is talking about the tea party taking the republican party hostage so we're hearing a lot in terms of attack mode and negative comments about the american people themselves. but very little about how he's going to form consensus on job creation. >> nothing to do with that. here's proof of this. last night at a fundraiser, has anybody been watching the debates lately? the president said. got a governor whose state is on fire denying climate change. it's true. you have audiences cheering at the prospect of somebody dying because they don't have health care and booing a service member in iraq because they're gay. they're not reflective of who we are. >> what he's suggesting is that the people who are most dissatisfied with the president's performance and that's most of the american people are somehow living in the middle ages, don't believe in pure science, and have problems comprehending fact-based

america, a fact-based america means there's 9.1% unemployment. a fact-based america as the president talks about means we're on the verge of a recession. the fact based america means that the middle east is in disarray. fact based america means that pakistanis to whom we're giving billions of dollars are trying to kill americans. >> you know what he's saying is and here's the quote from joe biden. he said, yeah, i may not be the almighty but look at the alternative. yeah, i may not be too good but the other guys are really bad. >> i mean, it's presumptuous that he even would be thinking about that to suggest that somehow people would think that he's the almighty. i don't understand what that means. that's disturbing. we should all be disturbed whether we're republicans or democrats like i am or independents that 13 months out, we've got a president who is talking about an election instead of talking about jobs. >> now, i will say this, when you come back, you have a twitter account, right? >> sure. >> we'll come back, was this

crumpled up and tossed aside and brought back into the peter johnson library. it's a little bit crumpled. >> this is a transformational election. and i heard the professor talk about that over the weekend. this is a critical election in american history. the president understands that. he says that. but at the same time, do you attack the american people in order to win re-election? that's a tough go, i think. >> all right. we'll see you tomorrow. >> good to see you. >> true. should a man be allowed to lead a women's group? what about a muslim leading bible study? next, why a prestigious american university professor says yes. and the number one song on this date in 1983, "tell her about it" by billy joel. 1883, they weren't recording it then or else we'd be rolling video of that. escape definition. ♪ escape compromise. ♪ experience the most fuel-efficient

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>> answer to the question of the day, of course, it's olivia newton john and the winner is maria atkinson in greenville, south carolina. congratulations. now on to this topic, should a man be allowed to represent a women's advocacy group. should an atheist be able to lead bible study? vanderbilt university says yep. but is that going too far? carol swan is the president of political president at vanderbilt and author of we the people. justin is president of the legal christian society and they are our guests and we reached out to vanderbilt for a new statement on this that we'll get to in a moment. they didn't send us a new one. we have the old one. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> professor swain, try to bring this in perspective for me. i understand last year there was a problem with somebody who wanted to own an organization on campus and it created now this new trend where organizations don't necessarily have to have people leading them about the actual thing they're discussing

like a bible study, correct? >> the university has imposed a new policy that states that leaders don't have to share the beliefs of the organization that they're seeking to lead and in the case of the christian groups, they also are questioning whether or not the leaders can lead bible studies and worship. these are things that are always been on university campuses. >> so justin, let me turn to you, you're a law student and you're also president of the christian legal society. i think it's important to point out that vanderbilt was founded under the methodist episcopal church, was it not? >> yes. yes, it was. that's what really makes extreme application of the policy so unusual. this is a nondiscrimination policy but they're using it to discriminate against religious groups ability. leaders just share their own beliefs. >> let me ask you something, as president of the christian legal society, how would that affect you in that role? >> well, specifically, as it affects the christian legal

society, if they implement this policy, it will eliminate our group from campus. but even more dramatic, it communicates a message to the students at vanderbilt that religious freedom and religious people's rights just simply aren't to be respected. >> professor swain, do you think this is an attack on evangelical groups on campus or an overall political correctness approach? >> i think that it's a combination of both. if you look at evangelical groups across the country, a number of campuses have imposed restrictions on these groups and so i think it's part of a trend to secularize campus religion and my role, as i see it, is to sort of heighten the awareness of the public because the christian parents, you know, they pay thousands of dollars to send their children to colleges and universities. these universities are trying to destroy the faith of the students. >> great point. i have to give a statement to

vanderbilt, working with the groups to bring them into compliance, that's what they say about this whole thing. we'll see how it all plays out. carol swain professor, justin, a law student. thanks for your time and explaining what's going on there. and coming up on "fox and friends", welcome to name calling 101. a high school teacher goes after a tea party leader in front of his students. >> say what you are, a nazi. >> and that teacher isn't in any trouble at all. then president obama orders the congressional black caucus, stop whining! and some black voters not happy about that at all. someone who voted for the president and now says he's just plain insulted. [ male announcer ] heard this one?

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sea while he raises cash on the west coast. his advisors talk about raising taxes. is this about the economy or about reelection? we're going to go live straight to the white house. >> steve: meanwhile, teacher steps up to the mike to compare the tea party to nazis. >> you could just say what you are, a nazi. >> steve: okay. so that's a government high school teacher. his students behind him cheered, but that teacher not in trouble and wait until you hear why it's okay to call the other guy a nazi. >> brian: a couple of high school coaches are being punished for praying on the field. they didn't utter a single amen. apparently they bowed their heads together. that was offensive enough. we're reading your e-mails out loud. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> steve: amen. >> hi, we're the oakridge boys.

>> you are watching "fox & friends." >> steve: how does that guy do that? >> gretchen: he was born that way. >> brian: he was born a man, that boy. >> steve: he was born before lady gaga was singing about being bornith deep voices. >> gretchen: they're going to be joining us. did you know it's the 30th anniversary of elvira. they made it famous and they'll be here to sing it for us. >> brian: right now they're hanging in the greenoom. we have headlines and stuff to talk about. >> gretchen: let's get right to that. police telling people in a quiet rural indiana town, lock your doors. this after five people were murdered there. it all unfolded when good samaritans found a child wandering in the road in laurel. the child and neighbors led officers to an address where they discovered the body of a man in a house across the street, they found two men and two other women shot dead. right now it's not clear if the shooter is one of the deceased or if the shooter is still on

the loose. fox news alert, a gunman opens fire in the c.i.a. wing of the u.s. embassy in kabul, afghanistan. one american is dead, another hurt. fox news confirming that the gunman was an afghan national who was working for the embassy. so far no claims of responsibility, but the focus is on the hakani network, the group behind recent attacks on american targets there. a friend of amanda knox says the jailed american student can't sleep or eat. she's expected to take the stand this week in her appeals trial in italy. she's going to try to ask the italian court to throw out her murder conviction of her american roommate. she and her boyfriend found guilty a couple years ago. after 781 days behind bars, the american hikers are happy to be home, but not happy with the iranian government. >> we had to go on hunger strike repeatedly just to receive letters from our loved ones.

many times, too many times we heard the screams of other prisoners being beaten and there was nothing we could do to help them. >> this was never about crossing the unmarked border between iran and iraq. we were held because of our nationality. >> gretchen: josh fattal and shane bauer sprung by authorities in oman as part of a million dollars bail deal. and those are your headlines this morning. >> steve: all right. meanwhile, congress skipping its week off to stay in washington, d.c. and try to pass a short-term cr funding measure to avoid a government shutdown and president obama weighing in. >> brian: joining us live from the white house, wendell goler. >> brian, me and the cement mixer once again. >> brian: i can't believe this! >> i think they time it. they crank it up. he's got a linked in town hall

meeting and three campaign events today while back here in washington, democrats and republicans once again playing chicken with a possible government shutdown. this time over funding disaster relief. the focus of the president's town hall meeting is great -- growing the economy. the focus of his campaign speeches is the push for a mixture of tax hikes and spending cuts to reduce the deficit. senior advisor, david plouffe says americans are screaming out not just to be heard over this cement mixer, but screaming out that the tax system is unfair. the president last night in seattle said it would be doubly unfair to trim the deficit on the backs of the poor and the middle class. >> this notion that the only thing to do to restore our prosperity is to eliminate environmental rules, bust unions, make sure that we're given tax breaks, the folks who are most fortunate and tell everybody else that they're on

their own, that's not who we are. >> how to pay for the damage caused by hurricane irene and other natural disasters is holding up a bill to fund the government until mid november. the house passed the measure, offsetting the 3 1/2 billion dollars fema budget with cuts elsewhere. the democrat-controlled senate digging in its heels. south carolina republican lindsey graham thinks they'll reach a deal by the deadline later this week. >> the government is not going to shut down because most americans want us to deal with disasters in front of us and disasters to come. that's why we're trying to start to pay for things that we haven't paid for before. the house proposal is reasonable. i would ask harry reid to take it. >> the senate blocked the house-passed bill on friday. they'll take up their own measure later this week. doesn't appear there was any talk between the house and senate, any progress toward a compromise over the weekend. guys, back to you. >> steve: wendell goler, amazing focus. able to deliver that report

despite the fact that there is a lot of racket going on. thank you, sir. job well done. >> brian: now we've added a compressor. >> gretchen: i think that's our own thing. >> brian: why don't we challenge ourselves with that? >> steve: can we turn up the compressor? >> gretchen: while we're trying to talk now? >> steve: let's talk a little bit about what's going on. >> brian: they god to add something. can you drop glass. >> steve: last tuesday in san antonio, they were having a town hall, the tea party was, to talk about the dream act. of course, the dream act -- that's much better. the dream act would give citizenship to certain people who are born in this country to illegal aliens. well, then it started to hit the fan when the local tea party leader was confronted by a local government teacher. listen to this. >> again, folks, if the person is here illegally and they break

the law, they've broken the law or are breaking the law, what do you want us to say? you know what i would have? i would have you teach more balanced conservative thoughts rather than just bringing liberal ideals and plaque cards here. >> you could say what you are, a nazi. >> steve: okay. >> gretchen: so he called him a nazi. that was the leader of the tea party locally there in san antonio who was called that name. >> brian: george rodriguez. >> gretchen: nothing is going to really happen to this teacher. apparently he's been with the school for six years and the excuse given is that because students were not required to be at this event, although you saw many of them behind him there in the video, because it wasn't a requirement, apparently they don't feel that saying nazi to adults is offensive enough as a teacher. so a lot of kids were there and they had been required to be there, then maybe he would face disciplinary action. >> brian: i wonder how that resonates in san antonio. here is a statement from the school. he realized he shouldn't have

gone that far and gave us a statement to express his concern and regret. i think they're not sharing with us. that according to the principal. >> steve: so you've got this guy, and remember, he's a government teacher. >> brian: six years. >> steve: right. he's the guy who is teaching the kids about the government and for him to look at that part of the political spectrum and label that guy a nazi, do you think those kids in his classroom are getting a fair and accurate depiction of american government? >> brian: you ask rhetorically. >> gretchen: here is another e-mail from al hunt, when i hear anyone fire that bullet, i think they're incapable of any logical thought and i'm usually correct. >> steve: okay. >> brian: from curtis in colorado, as a teacher, i tell students if you resort to name calling, you lost the argument. the teacher in san antonio, he used a name that should never be thrown around lightly. >> gretchen: something that's very similar, but different in the disciplinary action is a

high school down now in tennessee. apparently it has become tradition before a football game, the students would say some sort of a prayer and the coaches would just bow their head even though they weren't actually reading the words of the prayer. now it could be that those coach es -- they may be in trouble. they may face disciplinary action for simply bowing their heads in tennessee. >> brian: here is why. when asked whether bowing one's head was considered endorsing prayer, johnson said, who is one of the coach, it depends on what it looks like. we've been telling our principals looking for those things because this is a kind of shift. how things have been done. it can in no way to appear it's endorsed by the personnel. >> steve: the good news is the coaches are not going to be disciplined because they did sign a statement saying they understood the policy with the school. we asked for some e-mail and we got plenty. here is the first one from jack.

the aclu, by the way, which sued the school district, would love to see this country become the second coming of the soviet union. as far as political correctness is concerned, it has taken such a hold on this country that one would assume it was part of the constitution. >> gretchen: that's a great e-mail. they signed that paper, but they're signing saying that means they won't put their heads down anymore. so basically they've lost this battle because they were faced with being disciplined. here is a tweet from earth to me. >> brian: what if they sneeze and their head goes down? >> gretchen: still a violation. >> steve: what if she sneezed and said god bless you. >> brian: oh, my goodness! >> gretchen: here is a tweet, where are the christian's freedom? it seems like everyone has freedom of speech except for us. kind of feels that way sometimes. >> steve: all right. what do you think? continue the e-mails. president obama told the congressional black caucus stop whining. that comment not sitting well

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rights. eric is painting the blogs with how he thinks the president is failing african-americans. eric, welcome to "fox & friends." >> thank you very much for having me. >> brian: so what's your problem with the president's performance so far? >> well, let me actually start by -- i'd like to give kudos to two progressive congress women, maxine waters, for speaking out against the president for not doing nearly enough with regard to unemployment and barbara lee for starting the out of poverty caucus to get this president to focus on poverty. i believe this president has been focused on the wrong things and when he set foot in the congressional black caucus for the legislative weekend and chastised black people and dealt with our leaders in these eternallistic terms by telling us to stop whining and to stop complaining, i frankly was

stunned and disappointed. >> brian: can we hear a little bit of it? >> sure. >> brian: let's hear a little bit if someone missed it over the weekend, here is what eric was referring to. >> march with me and press on. take off your bedroom slippers. put on your marching shoes! shake it off! stop complaining! stop grumbling. stop crying! we are going to press on! we've got work to do! cbc! >> brian: so you didn't like that tone? >> no. no. not at all. we certainly have work to do and mr. president, you have work to do. now, if you can't distinguish between cries for help from a community where one in three is in poverty, that's the black community, and where 17% of us are unemployed, if you can't distinguish between a cry for help and a whine, then perhaps you need your ears checked or you need a gut check. african-americans, we're sick and tired of being dealt with in

these paternalistic terms. our needs are of value, mr. president. our interests are of value. every time we seem to say we need help, we have to hear you look at us and say, well, i'm not your president. i'm the president of all people. and that is not only disconcerting, but it is insulting. we know exactly who you are and we know exactly why we put you in office. that's to be a great effective leader. not simply to be a symbol. we are hurting. >> brian: everything you say, the 17% unemployment, one in three below the poverty line, but for the most part, do you think the president has gone -- what do you think the president could have done that would have affected the african-american community here? >> first of all, i'm certainly glad that he has a proposal for jobs. i do think that as soon as he walked into office, that we should have been looking at jobs. we bailed out the car companies.

we bailed out wall street. we bailed out the banks and we needed to be bailing out the poor. we needed to be bailing out these communities from appalachia all the way to detroit. this president could have focused on jobs and when he had a progressive speaker of the house, we could have effectively pushed through jobs. i think this president, had he been focused on jobs, had he been focused on poverty, he would have been a far more effective leader, a far more effective leader than he can be. >> brian: but you'll still vote for him? >> right now i have no alternative. if i'm a progressive democrat, i'm far more progressive than our president. there is nobody left of our president that is running and sadly, the republicans that are out there, i certainly don't think they are, at this point, going to be a solution to this problem. the poor have been left out of this equation and blacks have been left out of this equation.

we are talking about protecting the rich and we are talking about protecting the dwindling middle class. that dwindling middle class is quickly becoming the poor and we need a leader out there who can effectively deal with these issues. >> brian: eric, we enjoyed reading your blog, very direct, and we appreciate you coming on and -- >> you can check it out, i'm on twitter and thank you so much for having me. >> brian: continued success with your career. >> thank you. >> brian: coming up, we move ahead. police commissioner ray kelly dropping a bomb last night. nypd ready to blow a rogue plane out of the sky and so much more. and anna kendrick is taking on a brand-new challenge and she is here live we're cracking down on medicare fraud.

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>> gretchen: 23 minutes after the top of the hour. a quick headlines. chris christie busy fundraising schedule sparking hope among republicans that he's reconsider ago run for the white house. today he is stopping in missouri before heading to california, then louisiana later this week. despite the speculation, governor kristy of new jersey saying he's not running. for the first time, saudi arabia's king allowing women to vote in local elections. it's about time. women will be allowed to run as candidates. however, that doesn't change until three years from now. women, by the way, in saudi arabia, still not allowed to drive. she was nominated for an oscar for her role next to george clooney in "up in the

air". >> what kind of relationship do you have? >> you know, casual. >> pretty special? >> works for us. >> so you think there is a future there? >> i haven't really thought about it. what's going on here? >> steve: now she's back in the big screen in the movie "50-50". joining us is anna kendrick. >> hi. >> steve: when you heard about the movie, you got real funny guys behind the movie. but it's about cancer. so it's like how do you make fun of cancer? >> of course, we're not making fun of cancer. >> steve: no! >> i always feel like it would have been a lot more convenient if the script could have just been bad and i would have just said no. but i completely fell in love with this script and i think the comforting thing about it was knowing that this was just one man's experience. our screen writer got sick at 25

and -- >> brian: a tumor in the spine in the movie? >> that's right. and this is what he took out of it. this is what he came out of it wanting to say. >> gretchen: i did see a preview and it looks fantastic, by the way. >> i'm very, very proud of it. >> gretchen: you play the therapist. what is the relationship between you and the young man who just finds out that he has malignant cancer? >> yeah. i'm his very younger inexperienced therapist. i think that in a lot of ways, cast republican is more of an obstacle than help to him. >> steve: because you were not equipped to handle that? >> exactly. he's my third patient ever and he's really just too kind to ask for someone else. so i tried to just -- i tried to make her endearing so people would root for them. at first she really doesn't know what she's doing. >> brian: let's take a look at this clip from the movie "50/50"

>> dr. mckay? >> oh, sorry. please come in. and call me katherine. >> you're dr. mckay? >> i am. well, have a seat. sit down, please. >> sorry, if you don't mind, how old are you? >> 24. >> you're 24. wow. like doogie howser or something? >> who? >> gretchen: i love that part. you have no idea who doogie houser is. >> steve: if you in real life went to somebody that unqualified, you would have left? >> i like to think so. if someone brings me the wrong food at a restaurant, i will not say anything and i will just eat what they brought me. so i might do that. i think that's what he does. he's the kind of guy who wouldn't send food back. >> steve: is george clooney a guy who wants to get along with

everybody? >> i don't know if he would send back food. but he was an incredibly kind person. i feel really lucky to have worked with the people that i have. >> brian: you don't think he's past his prime? >> you're going to get me in trouble. >> gretchen: on a side note, people also know you from "twilight," which we should mention. a new season coming up soon? >> the next film is released in november. >> gretchen: okay. "50/50" opens friday across the nation. good luck. >> thank you very much. >> steve: good job. >> brian: you could be our therapist. we have the couch already. >> steve: straight ahead, the democratic national committee now using donald trump's catch phrase against him. >> and what do the american people have to say to those who would return to the same failed policies that created our challenges? >> you're fired. >> steve: the donald will respond for the first time on

fox. don't touch that dial. >> gretchen: can you believe the song "elvira" turning 30 years old? the oak ridge boys will sing it. ♪ my heart's on fire for elvira ♪ giddyap alm papa, alm papa how how. >> hi

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>> steve: ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the shot of the morning. we call this when pigs fly. cue the flying pig. ♪ been watching the pigs on the wings. >> steve: people might have thought they had too many to drink. 30-foot pig flying over london's power station. if you went to college in the '70s and 80s, you might remember that from ping floyd's classic album, animals. 35 years later, it's being rereleased. when the cover was shot in '76, the pig broke loose and floated into the path of airplanes at heathrow. this time the pig stayed put. 35 years. i remember that. >> gretchen: that ages us all. let's do other headlines for monday. new york police commissioner ray kelly dropping a bombshell last night. he says the nypd can take down terror planes from the sky here in new york city. here he is on "60 minutes."

>> in an extreme situation, you would have some means to take down a plane. >> do you mean to say that the nypd has the means to take down an aircraft? >> yes, i prefer not to get into the details, but obviously this is being a very extreme situation. >> gretchen: sources telling the "new york post" that that weapon that he was referring to is a 50 caliber rifle which can be mounted on almost any police chopper. brian? >> brian: the death of a patient at a hospital in oakland inflaming a labor dispute. two days after nurses went on strike, a replacement nurse gave a woman being treated for cancer the wrong medication. the patient died. the hospital says the replacement nurses are trained and experienced enough to do the job. the striking nurses say it would not have happened on their watch. they're expected to be back on the job tomorrow. >> steve: take a look at this. emotional diana nyad arrived inry west following her three

unsuccessful attempt to swim from florida to cuba. the doctor said one more jelly fish sting could kill you. >> i knew i could do it. i just couldn't get there. i wanted that so badly. it's just not going to happen. >> steve: she is emotional not only because she's hurt, but she was close. she swam 77 miles. it was 103 owl the way to cuba. >> gretchen: a former friend of john gotti mad about john travolta being cast as the mob boss. ♪ >> gretchen: what's wrong with that? that's what i want to know. what is wrong with doing that? mob rat lewis cassman, who gotti considered his adopted son says travolta is too wimpy. any man who can can do that?

wimpy? he added gotti never danced in his life. he said it should have gone to a tougher guy, like deniro or pacino. >> brian: that would have been too easy. >> gretchen: i wonder what donald trump thinks about that. do you think john travolta is wimpy? >> no, i don't. i think he's a great actor and a good guy and i think he'll do a good job. >> brian: did you ever meet gotti? >> i did meet him. >> brian: and? >> you know. he was gotti. tough cookie. >> steve: yeah. >> he was a tough guy. >> steve: donald joins us every monday at this time. got to ask you about herman cain's stunning win in the florida straw poll down there. he got -- we're going to put up the results. he got 37%. rick perry got 15. rick perry he was supposed to win. mitt romney got 14. he's going to meet you later today. what do you think of herman cain's stunning win? >> i think he should be very proud of himself. he's done very well. he's a good guy. he's a respected man and he really should. he should be very proud of the

job he's doing. >> gretchen: you regret not staying in the race, because a lot of people say the reason that herman cain won this straw poll was because number one, he's not a politician, and number two, he was a successful businessman. i'm thinking, donald trump is both of those things. do you regret not being in the race? >> i was leading in all the polls when i left and i left for a very good reason. i wasn't very happy with what was going on in the republican party with the statements they were making, the stances they were taking. and we'll see what happens. i'm looking at different people and we're going to see what happens. they have to make the right move. we have to get a president that's going to be a great president. our country is in very, very serious trouble. >> brian: i want to bring your attention to an ad you may have heard about. evidently they found out that mitt romney is coming to see you and at that time, the dnc quickly went into action. they put an attack ad against you. you want to listen to a little of it? i want to get your response. >> brian: let's go. >> mitt romney and donaltrump are meeting today. well, they do have a lot in

common. they've both done well for themselves. both support an economic plan that would help out the richest and the big corporations, but not the middle class. that would slash social security. and end medicare as we know it, cut funds for health care, research and development, and schools. eliminate investments that will create jobs and keep america competitive. and what do the american people have to say to those who would return to the same failed policies that created our challenges? >> you're fired, you're fired. >> brian: they can't steal those pictures. what's your reaction? >> i think it's a weak ad and the plane is nowhere near as nice as my plane, so i'm very insulted by the ad. the ad looks -- it almost looks like it was put out by me. pretty pathetic ad. i hope that's the best they can do because if that's what's going to happen, then obama is going to lose the election. >> brian: is it symptomatic of the democratic party who thinks it's bad to be successful these days? that's what they're trying to

make it seem. >> i think that's the point of the ad, if you're success of theful -- successful, that's a bad thing and you should vote against people that -- i employ thousands and thousands of people and would like to employ thousands more and will employ thousands more at some point. but you have to have confidence in the economy. it's very hard to be confident in this economy. >> steve: no kidding. that ad is all about the fact that you and mitt romney are meeting later today for dinner. tell us where you're going. also who initiated it and what does he hope to accomplish, do you think? >> first of all, i think he's done really well in the debates and i'm very impressed by that. and he actually called and wanted to meet and we're meeting today at 2:00 o'clock at trump tower. we're not having dinner. we're meeting at 2:00 o'clock at trump tower. i look forward to meeting him. i think he did a really good job in the debates. >> brian: what questions do you still have for him? what do you need to know? >> i'd rather save those questions for him, otherwise there is no reason to come out.

he's probably watching. he likes your show. >> steve: what did you think of rick perry's performance on thursday? >> i was in australia over the weekend, and i was there for a reason of making some speeches that i was asked to make. it's a long trip. i will tell you, the one thing more than anything else, i was in sydney and melbourne. the streets are clean, the streets are beautiful. everything is in nice shape as opposed to our country where the streets are falling apart, where our bridges are falling. our infrastructure is in such bad condition. i was really impressed. these are two cities, we're not talking about big this, big that. really nice, beautiful, clean cities well manicured. >> gretchen: i got to move on because this is something you know about is as a huge wage earner is paying taxes. president obama put out his number one advisor, david plouffe on the talk shows yesterday to respond to some of the math that the irs, amongst others, has now done to kind of prove this whole buffett rule

he's trying to impose as fuzzy math, that the people who make the most money in this country are already paying their fair share. listen to what david plouffe said in response to those numbers, and bloomberg. >> listen, you can manipulate statistics in any way you want. they're making a ton of money. we have iniquities. the american people are screaming out, saying it's unfair that the wealthiest, the largest corporations who can afford the best attorney, the best accountants take advantage of these special tax breaks, along with lawmakers cooked into the books. they make a ton of money. >> they pay a ton of tax. >> well, they do. >> the buffett think is theatrics. if buffett made his money from ordinary mcrather than appear taliban gains, his tax rate would be higher than his secretary, and in fact, the majority of the people in this country pay a chunk of the taxes. >> gretchen: what do you make of those statements from david plouffe and bloomberg's statement? >> i agree with mayor bloomberg

and the fact that buffett pays more taxes than he's saying, although supposedly he owes a lot of tax, which is an interesting tax. i've been reading about that he owes a tremendous amount of taxes. but he's paying a lot more money than he's saying because he's paying it twice. he's not talking about the first part of the payment. so look, this is all about confidence. this is all about putting people to work. it's all about jobs and people in this country that have the power to create jobs have no confidence in the president or, frankly, in the country at this point. it's a very scary scenario. i've never seen anything like it. and they're very, very worried about obamacare. >> brian: think that if the president wanted to help the fortunes, the people that hire people should be his best friend, to the point almost accepting criticism. when you know 70% of the taxes are paid by the top 10% earners and try to vilify them, how can you turn the economy around? >> it's being because many of

those earners were big supporters of his last time around are absolutely against him right now. they are so against him. and they were with him for good reason. they believed this whole thing about change, change, isn't that wonderful, and now all of a sudden, they're totally against him. i know people that are adamantly opposed to obama getting reelected, who were big supporters. >> gretchen: you join us every monday, thanks so much. we'll talk again next week. >> thank you very much. >> brian: we look forward to finding out about the 2:00 o'clock meeting. >> steve: straight ahead on this day in 1789, george washington appointed the first post master general. now there are questions whether we should have a post office at all. that debate coming up next. >> gretchen: what you going to do before you leave this morning? stick around for a live performance from the oak ridge boys. ♪ buy a little ring and put it on her finger ♪ ♪ if you're gng to keep her ♪ going to have too dig a little deeper ♪ ♪ now it's all or nothing

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>> steve: on this day back in 1789, george washington appointed samuel ozgood as our first post master general under the constitution. now the u.s. postal service is hemorrhaging billions of dollars. should the postal service be cut? let's go out to san diego to hear from a financial expert and radio talk show host who has been covering this hot button issue. and in dc to get the perspective from frederick rolando, the president of the until association of letter carriers. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> steve: all right. bill, let's start with you. people are talking about closing the post office on saturday to save money. that wouldn't bother you, would it? >> well, it would be a good start, but we've got a lot further to go than that. the post office is expected to lose $10 billion this year. >> steve: frederick, i understand you feel that the

post office is not broke. this is just one of those things that the government is making you pay for with the retirement benefits, right? >> good morning. thank you for inviting me to the show. i appreciate the opportunity to expose the public to for a change, some of the truth, about the postal service. yeah, there is a lot of misinformation out there that needs to be disspelled with regards to the postal service. >> steve: like what? it's not broke. >> absolutely not broke. absolutely not broke. they just need access to their own funds. congress needs to act quickly and responsibly to give them that access. >> steve: frederick, the suggestion that we'd be better off financially if they closed the post office on saturdays, what do you say to that? >> well, i guess if you accept the premise that the postal service is broke, you could start that discussion. but i think it's kind of silly to go there when you've got an institution that's successful like the postal service. >> steve: bill, how big a problem to the financial viability of the postal service

are the powerful unions? >> well, i cover about 2700 publicly traded companies in the real world and in the real world, employees don't have no layoff clauses. employees have 401(k)s that are subject to the markets. i can't think of another company where 80% of their expenses are labor costs. if a publicly traded company was losing $10 billion per year, and if more than half of their 32,000 outlets were losing money, they wouldn't be in business anymore. >> sve: it will be interesting to see what they finally decide to do down in d.c bill and frederick, we thank you for joining us live today. thanks. all right. meanwhile, over to the oak ridge boys. good morning. >> can you believe our song, elvira, is turning 30 years old? we will sing it right here on "fox & friends" when we come

back. >> steve: but first, let's check in with martha mccallum for a preview of what's coming up at the top of the hour. good morning to you. >> good morning there, steve. the oak ridge boys, good morning, everybody. so happy monday to you and morgan freeman says the president's approval ratings have more to do with racism than anything else. really? we're going to take that on. rick perry faced with an uphill battle now as the money figures out where to go. joe barton is here talking about solyndra. bill and i join you at the top of the hour. ♪

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>> gretchen: that finger was one of the oak ridge boys. he was telling brian he did a nice job golfing with president bush. now we need to switch topics because we need to introduce you guys. for 30 years, our next guests

have been singing their hit song "elvira," plus they have a new album out. >> brian: that means we're paying like all of you. the oak ridge boys are here. welcome. >> thank you. >> brian: the song is older than the 30th anniversary we're celebrating, correct? >> it was written in 1964. quite a people recorded it during that time period. rodney cowell, kenny rogers, but we recorded it in 1980, put it out in 81. it's still our most requested song. >> gretchen: it's on your new cd. >> yes. when we did our new cd for cracker barrel, which is sold exclusively at cracker barrel stores -- 604, to be exact. but the album is available at cracker barrel and we rerecorded "elvira. >> brian: take it away.

♪ . >> wake up out there, y'all ♪ elvira, elvira ♪ my heart's on fire for elvira elvira ♪ ♪ well, eyes that look like heaven ♪ ♪ lips like sherry wine ♪ that girl can sure enough make my little light shine ♪ ♪ i get a funny feeling ♪ up and down my spine ♪ cause i know that my elvira is mine ♪ ♪ i'm singing elvira

♪ elvira ♪ my heart's on fire for elvira elvira ♪ ♪ giddy-up oom poppa oom poppa how how ♪ ♪ giddy-up oom poppa oom poppa how how ♪ ♪ hi ho silver away ♪ tonight i'm going to see her ♪ at the hungry house cafe ♪ i'm gonna to give her all the love i can ♪ ♪ yes i am ♪ she's going to jump and holler ♪ ♪ 'cause i saved up my last two ♪ ♪ we gonna search and find that preacher man ♪ ♪ i'll be singing elvira

♪ elvira ♪ my heart's on fire for elvira elvira ♪ ♪ oom poppa, oom poppa, how how ♪ ♪ giddy-up, giddy-up oom poppa how how. >> steve: more "fox & friends" in two minutes. take it away. ♪ elvira we could've gone a more traditional route... ... but it wouldn't have been nearly as memorable. ♪

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>> gretchen: how fantastic was "elvira"? they're going to stick around for our after the show show. log on for that particular show. they're going to sing a song from their new cd. >> steve: all right. we'll be back here tomorrow. so hope you will, too. so long, everybody. bill: on a monday morning, good morning from new york! was it game changer or was it a protest vote? her man c aeufplt n pulling off