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leadership forum of where else, the ronald reagan presidential library. joining me with more on all of this, former clinton advisor and author of o a "new york times" best seller, dick morris. it's real, he's giving a lot of thought to this. i think the odds are a lot the world needs more energy. where's it going to come from? better than they were a couple of weeks ago that he's really ♪ thinking about this. what do you think? that's why right here, in australia, >> well, first of all, sean, let chevron is building one of the biggest natural gas projects in the world. me apologize for not being in enough power for a city the size of singapore for 50 years. the studio. i'm doing the lord's work. i'm here in ohio campaigning for what's it going to do to the planet? natural gas is the cleanest conventional fuel there is. josh mandel who is running we've got to be smart about this. against acorn's favorite it's a smart way to go. ♪ senator brown. >> that's the lord's work. >> i don't want anybody dragged into this. if you want this job, you got to want it yourself, but anyway, you go. >> i think he would be a great >> sean: president obama had a special message for the candidate. i think he's been a terrific congressional black caucus over the welcome, but california governor. i was proud to help him in his

campaign for governor, and i congresswoman maxine waters hope he gets into the race. wants none of it. but it's kind of hard when he >> put on your marching shoes. first set i'm not ready to be shake it off. president. stop complaining. if he said the family didn't want me to run or something like symptostop crying. that, but i'm not ready. what is there about four months we're going to press on. >> i found that language a bit later that makes you ready? i'm concerned about that. curious because the president i also this this contest -- spoke to the hispanic caucus. he certainly didn't tell them to think this contest has been dominated by the person who isn't there, mike huckabee, stop complaining and he would never say that to the gay and donald trump, sarah palin, mitch lesbian community who really pushed him on don't ask, don't daniels, chris christie, and we have a field of people who are tell or even in a speech to there who are fabulous, who are apac. he would never say to the jewish very good candidates, one of whom is going to be the next community stop complaining about president most likely, and let's israel. i don't know who he was talking focus on them. to. we're certainly not complaining. there's a poem i love. >> sean: you could have fooled me. when i was coming down the he did talk to the congressional stair, i met man who wasn't black caucus. meanwhile, another liberal in there. hollywood is calling the tea he wasn't there again today. i do wish he would go away. party racist. this time it is academy award >> here's my thought on this. winner morgan freeman. now, g.o.p. presidential candidate herman cain shot back it seems like, for example, at the actor's accusation. perry jumps in the race, >> the tea partyists who are

instantly races to the top of the polls. after the debate a lost people controlling the republican learned -- a lot of people earned his position on party, their stated policy, immigration and instate tuition publicly stated, is to do breaks for children of illegal whatever it takes to see to it immigrants. that obama only serves one term. the hpv vaccine. some people are angry about that. >> opposing the border fence. what underlines that? screw the country. that's what i'm angry about. we're going to do whatever we do >> sean: another issue. to get this black man, we're even governor christie will have going to do whatever we can to get this black man out of here. issues. the state's been downgraded. >> it's not necessarily racist. >> it is a racist thing. he'll have his own trouble, and >> i doubt that morgan freeman it seems like people are putting these guys on a pedestal, maybe with all due respect who is a great actor has never been to a at such a level that actually tea party. most of the people criticizing none of them can live up to. the tea party about having a >> pro romney's done pretty well racist element have never been to a tea party. name calling is something that surviving that stuff. is going to continue in this people are down on him over because they don't know how to romney care and they have every stop this movement. right to be and his flip flopping over abortion, but he's >> sean: joining me now with reaction, the spokesman for the largely come through that. perry had some hubris in congress of racial equality and entering the race and not a fox contributor.

adjusting his positions, not you're wearing your pastor. reconsidering some of them. >> i want to remind people who i i mean, who wants to carry that am. >> let me ask you about this. social security position around all november? he's had some trouble back and the interesting thing to me, sean, is that you have sort of a forth going on with the group of voters who are going to congressional black caucus. be for romney. you have a group that wants he blames kiosks and a tsm m ate somebody else. originally they went for a cast of people that wrent running, and then they went for perry. ?iewn, for him to say stop now it seems to me they're looking at cain, they're looking complaining and stop crying and at bachmann. take your bedroom slippers off, if beginnin gingrich could put e what's that all about? >> in his own way he thought he personal negatives behind him was rallying the troops. and talk about the elephant in there's a lot of anger and the room that he never talks about that's holding everyone frustration. back, maybe he could get into it's not the congressional black this seriously. caucus. there's 5,000 people in the room santorum you can't count out. who are black american leadership from coast to coast, and i think the widespread reaction in many quarters that i perry has faded too much now. >> all right. so the president announced to ay talked to is they were offended or they were not connected to that statement. 36% approval rating, 56 prs >> sean: let me ask you because the reality is the president made a lot of promises. disapproval rating. the youth, aican american

hallmark cards have introduced layoff sympathy cards. that's how bad things have unemployment rate in this country is near 15%. gotten in the country economically, so the president african-american community unemployment near 18%. is lashing out and we'll get it's a legitimate question. into this later, fighting with are you better off with barack the black congressional caucus, obama as president and you know, for his -- he got the majority of the black vote and then some. and on the one hand, how does he i think the answer is no. pull independenc independents ie >> the latino unemployment rate other hand? he's got himself in quite a box. >> republicans have quite an for youth is over 30%. opening. herman cain is the guy that could really score. for african-american youth, he should up there and say forever 40%, and some cities mr. president, are you encouraging young minority like detroit, unemployment for students and people, kids, to black men is in the 40s, the embrace this victimization 40th percentile. it's outrageous for the rhetoric. you're encouraging them to hate president of the united states, the last time i checked, he's entremendous pareengage in clasr not empor remember o emporer ofd states. he's elected president of the united states. he's actually telling elected than personal ambition and striving and hard work. officials that represent these communities that are in the i represent the alternative midst of the obama depression, model. you did it through community depression level unemployment statistics. organizing and a career in he's telling their elected

public life. i did it by boot strapping to officials shut up, don't the commercial sector, and i complain, take off your bedroom don't embrace class war far slippers. because when i meet someone who black foaks and latinos and is more successful than i am, i americans don't have money in an want to be like him. obama depression to buy bedroom i don't want to hate him. cain can do that in a way nobody slippers and certainly don't have tam time to spend in bed. else can. i think if he does, he's going to strike a tremendously residue nant chord because obama is so they're trying to get off the unemployment line, get a job, playing this class warfare card. and survive in this economic >> are you saying at this moment depression that barack obama has in time that you can't make an put us in. >> some of us had on our accurate prediction who's going marching shoes when barack obama to win this primary for the got to washington and we came to republicans? the dinner. >> oh, absolutely i can't. absolutely. the only good news in all of i mean, at each given moment i this politically speaking is if have dairch theory as to -- a you look in this moment of different theory as to who is most likely to win. despair, if you look at the right now i have to say romney choice, rick perry is imploding. is, but oh, my god. michelle bachmann is in reverse. we don't know if governor christie is coming in. romney can't seem to get it if he's not, you can't say who together, and so the alternates is going to win. perry could come back because suddenly he's not the are not presented, and herman frontrunner and people will lay cain is on the rise. off him. he can kind of reenter in >> the republican party has not humility in the shadows and provided any outreach of significant means. begin to move up. cain could do it. >> sean: let me tell you where i disagree. all of the candidates running

bachmann will get a lot of support that perry's losing. for republican will repeal obama she lost her third place finish care. they will end wit burdensome because perry took the votes away. now she can get them back. regulation. they lower the tax rate go to santorum is the national the reagan economic policies and security candidate, and have a tougher national security gingrich, everybody agrees he would be the best president. posture. the issue is there's going to be he's the best debater up there. a choice in this election. they don't to bac want to back m more of the same, he's had four because of the skeletons in his years. now he has a track record. how does he run against his own closet. >> i was surprised. failed policies? >> it's not an abstract policy. friday night the overwhelming consensus was against governor it's an individual. >> sean: so you're saying his perry especially on the track record -- >> the rick perry that we've immigration issue. been hearing about who stormed the con sten consensus was thatt onto the center stage. romney won the debate. >> sean: the guy that created what can perry do short of half the jobs in america. >> the guy who is falling like a changing his position to take up a position on immigration that stone amongst the republican party because he's now -- people are getting a second look, and they don't like what they say. resonates within the base of the party. >> he has to walk that back. >> sean: this is going to vet itself out. >> how do you do that? >> i used to advise bill niger, i don't believe this is going to be everything including clinton. i'm an expert at that. a big referendum on obama. you talk about the border fence and you say listen. people will say this is what he my preference is boots on the promised and this is what he ground, but if the jeanls and delivered. this is where we are

the national -- generals and the economically. he said he would get us out of national guard tell me that a fence will enhance the viability this. >> the one person that my good of the boots on the ground, i'm not going to impose my strategic friend jacques left out is the judge over theirs just like i won't do in afghanistan. guy who won the florida straw you take the instate situation and say it's a decision for each poll by crushing the competition state to make. is herman cain. hermaherman cain's idea are goio the people of texas felt it was be a mainstay of the republican important. i certainly would not support federal legislation. nomination should it be he or you take social security and you someone else. i think that no nominee will bea say yeah, i believe in a theoretical way it nigh not be formidable choice. >> over at newsbusters they have constitutional, but we're not going to do that. what i advocate is bush's plan. a tape. i spoke with herman this >> we've gotta run. >> you apologize. afternoon. they have a tape where they there are ways to walk it back interviewed people at the as opposed to what he did which is just stand up there and say congressional black caucus you're heartless if you don't event. he was called an oreo, a agree with me. traitor, a bunch of really that really alien nated everybody in the country including me. incendiary remarks that are >> dick morris, good to see you. often made over the years about appreciate you being with us. you and your dad. coming up, the landscape of if you are african-american the republican field conservative. dramatically shipped this why is that happening in this weekend -- shifted this weekend day and age? >> actually, i think it's happening less and less than it

with herman cain wayne. used to happen, and i think the rick santorum will join us live. black community and the latino later, a war of words explodes community is a lot more open between president obama and than they ever have been to an alternative point of view within congresswoman maxine waters. those communities. that's why barack obama's we've got the tape and much more popularity is dropping like an coming up straight ahead. iron in the ocean in the latino community and even in the african-american community. that's why he has to go to try to rally the troops. >> i have to agree with the fundamental point. his popularity has diminished. there is unhappiness and there's the potential for a realignment and a reexamination of the republican party if they would reach out. that's what i'm saying. the republican party is missing an opportunity. >> sean: how have they not reached out? >> they have no -- at the congressional black caucus weekend, there was no presidential candidate. i'm saying there are eight

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>> when you cast your ballot at this straw poll, send washington a message. they're ready for a problem solver, not another politican. they're ready for solutions, not

more speeches. that's what the united states of america, the people are ready for. send washington a message. >> the road to 2012 has already been filled with a number of twists and turns, but one of the most surprising developments came over the weekend when businessman herman cain upset the two republican frontrunners in the state of florida in the straw poll. cain received 37% of the vote. governors perry and romney received a combined 29%. with these surprising results in mind, does this mean there's an opening for one of the so-called second tier candidates to move up in the polls. joining me now is a malib man wo scored age pressive fourth place, it's senator santorum. >> we weren't able to have you on after the debate, and we want to be fair to alternate candidates. i thought it was interesting. i don'i don't like the idea of e

polls right now h meaning a whoe lot. they give us a big picture, but i think that it was interesting from my perspective that candidates that weren't polling as well including yourself did very well in the florida straw poll. why do you think that's the case? >> well, look. i've been getting a lost comments -- lot of comments both in florida and here in >> sean: all right, tonight on pennsylvania tonight. the great american panel, he a people are watching the debates, and the thing i hear more than former deputy assistant anything else is let all the secretary of state, "usa today" other candidates be heard from. columnist and fox contributor, i think they were tired and he co writes with our other several of the early debates of guests. congratulationses on your two or three candidates getting success. half or more of the time. he is a syndicated op ed they want to hear what the other columnist and he does the piece candidates have to say. now that they are, you're with bob. that's fox news contributor cal starting to see the ramifications. thomas. these other candidates' support she's the current vice-president of the young americas is starting to wane and there's foundation, kate is with us. peaked interest in some of the ideas and the experience and the this is funny. not bringing this up because record of the people who are on it's just a phenomenon that you the, quote, second tier. i think this race, as i heard can help me explain.

al gore speaks before a dick morris say, it's a wide predominantly black audience, open race. goes into this preacher mode i'm very, very excited about it. i think we've been sort of the like he's in a church. i'll give you an example. tortoise in this race, slow and here's hillary doing the same steady. thing. we haven't had our big moment in watch this. the sun, but we continue to sort >> i come too far from where i of keep picking up and picking up, and that's the kind of progress you want to make. started from. >> sean: there was a fiery nobody told me that the road exchange between you and would be easy. governor rick perry. the issue was immigration. i don't believe he brought me let's roll the tape. >> you say that we should not this far to leave me. >> and so obama speaks before educate children who have come into our state for no other the congressional black -- reason than they've been brought you're laughing because you know there by no fought of their own. it's true. what is this? >> the funny part before we got i don't think you have a heart. >> governor perry, no one is on, i said i've watched al gore in a black church trying to do suggesting up here that the amazing grace. students that are legal in this he had it on his wrist like a country shouldn't be able to go to a college and university. quarterback does. everybody is moving this way and i think you're sort of making grooving and al is going the this leap that unless we other way. it was a collision problem. subsidize this, the taxpayers you know, you've got to speak to the group you're speaking to. subssubsidize it, they won't bee to go. hillary clinton was quoting. most folks who want to go to the >> sean: it was a speech.

state of texas or out of state >> of all the thing going on in have to pay the full boat. america, that's about the last the point is, why are we thing i'm worried about. >> let me tell you something. subsidizing. if george w. bush had gone into not that they can't go, they can the naacp or the congressional go. they just have to borrow money and find other sources to be black cautio caucus and startedg able to go. >> sean: senator, i had governor in stereo typical perry on my radio show on friday and asked him about your exchange. his answer was to me well, wait african-american dielectric, he a minute. would have been called a panned you're saying it's okay for the children of illegal immigrants 357panderrist. to go, and the only area of difference is on the subsidy >> bill clinton does it better than barack obama does, but it's side. in other words, the instation a dangerous time right now for 125euin -- theinstate tuition b. obama with his core constituents, even african-americans are realizing children of illegals, it's okay they're being hurt more than just about anybody in our with you to go to public schools society. >> so president obama talked to and universities. >> children from anywhere around the congressional black caucus. the world can go to our public universities. >> sean: i'm talking about by t way, this is president people in the country illegally. crybaby, he blames the tsunami, >> they're here illegally from the earthquake, kiosks, and he what country? pick you can. if they were in that country, says stop complaining, stop they can come, pay the full grumbling, stop crying. tuition. >> i never in all the times i a public university subs subsid. talked about george bush i would

never use something like that. you're paying higher tuition as the strategy to get reelected as an out of state student. i have no people from mexico a sitting president is to solidify your base to start and move towards the center. coming to the university of texas or people from canada he solidified his base with coming from the university of health care reform, then he texas. they should pay a higher rate. moved more to the center. >> if they're here illegally. now he's moving back to solidify there's two issues. the base. you made your point on whether get is does he have enough time or not they get instate tuition breaks. there's a clear difference to get back to the center. between you. what i'm trying to ascertain, is there a difference if children or people are in this country i'm trying to explain something to you about political analysis illegally, should the they be which you're behind on. >> i love all the commentary allowed to go to american about how obama has decided not schools if they're in the to be a compromiser any more. country illegally? >> well, sure, because we are when was that? did i miss that when he was allow people not from this country to go to our schools as compromising and had toned down long as they pay tuition. rhetoric and there was thinking? i'm not going to penalize people in this country and not allow >> what is to say. them to go to schools when we allow people from outside the >> we're talking about the country to come in to go to republicans right now. they're saying obama has -- schools. >> you're talking about two guys no. i don't think anyone is suggesting that, but they have on common ground. to pay the rate that, in fact, you know what i think about the republicans? to hell with them. subsidizes the instate people for their lower tuition. >> are you a little panicked?

>> sean: i think what happened >> when has a republican reached here, this is my analysis, out? >> what's amazing, what maxine governor perry went right to the waters said when she was asked top. i think this is a position that about the president saying stop lot of conservatives feel strongly about. whining, stop complaining. people that did not respect or she said who is he talking to? you've got 16% black unemployment in the country. laws -- our laws and sophomore you have a huge number of earnty shoulsovereigntyshould n. african-american trapped in failing schools. the liberal democrats and the our schools are overburdened, teachers unions are standing in the schoolhouse doors to keep overcrowded. it's impacted the criminal them in. >> and the republicans want them justice system. to stay out of work because they >> you're talking about -- want the unemployment rate up. you're talking about public that's what the republicans are education. i'm talking about higher about. education. they love to see the we allow anybody around the unemployment rate up. world to come to our schools. >> stop for a second. >> they have to come in legally. >> sean: this is a serious if you're here illegally, you would still allow them to go? charge. you're saying republicans want the country to fail so obama's >> right. i would, but the key here, and i think what upsets people and -- you're saying they're putting certainly upsets me is that he their party over the country? you're questioning their would suggest somehow we're heartless if we don't subsidize patriotism? >> the people on capitol hill -- people to go to school. i didn't say i'm questioned the other thing that bothered me their pate rism. is somehow or another, i think

he made the comment that if, in they believe their patriotism is fact, we don't subsidize them getting rid of obama. i will tell you this. and they don't go to school but somehow they're going to become >> when the democrats -- we're wards of the state as if people don't go to college, somehow in darre different mode here ate they're going to be on welfare. that was another sort of leap in moment. when the democrats are in the trying to, you know, point at minority and a republican is in the heartlessness of america the white house, look at george which i think, frankly, doesn't mitchell, look at harry reid, wash at all. they did everything they could to try to make a republican >> sean: senator, look forward to seeing you at the next president a failure. debate. i think there's going to be a this is part of the politics. few more before we get to let's be honest about this. january. thanks for being here. >> kate? >> nobody on the right wants >> look forward to it. obama to have second term thanks, sean. >> sean: who is the latest because of what he's doing to hollywood hot shot to jump on the economy. >> republicans have demonstrated the bandwagon and call the tea they're absolutely desperate for party racist? the unemployment rate to come we'll tell you that and much more coming up next. down. they said the only thing you have to do right now is cut corporate tax rates, bring it down from the second highest corporate tax rate in the world and you will immediately and cut back some of those regulations that are keeping businesses from using their money to hire people. that's all you have to do. how dare you suggest that republicans don't want to lower the unemployment rate?

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>> sean: we continue with our great, great american panel. all right. a lot of talk that governor christie of new jersey may get in the race. i'll throw this to you, mr. beckel. what do you interpret from that? i guess we can put up the florida straw poll results and herman cain kind of ran away with it, 37%. rick perry 15, romney 14. santorum, paul, and gingrich at

10 and 11. reaction? >> my reaction is that straw polls are one of the great waste of time and resources of a campaign. i did it before. perry did not have a good debate, no question about it. he touched on key issue for republicans. had he apologized right away on the heart thing, i think he would have been all right. the idea that he's been written off so fast. >> i'm not writing him off. >> you're not. a lost the media -- the subtext is the guy's gone. the attention will turn to romney and he'll have a tough time. >> sean: i don't think they thought through the issue, nor did they understand how the issue resonates with conservatives on illegal immigrants. >> this is a game the media plays. who's up this week? we'll go after him and try to attack him and bring him down so we can bring somebody else and get the interest going. there hasn't been a single vote cast. the iowa caucuses aren't until

february or january. this is a media game. >> we're looking at the candidates. >> while republicans agree any of these candidates are better than the guy in office right now, there's a bit of a sense of dissatisfaction with the choices. romney is the next guy in line. we've seen what happens with mccain and do and what happens with the next guy in line. >> he had a good debate. >> republicans are hanging back because they have a real opportunity here to win, and they know that. so what they want is somebody who's actually a conservative. when they get them, they'll put them in. >> i think christie would last 5 minutes. people will realize he's not conservative. >conservative. >> sean: i think agree. we've got a fred thompson moment. people are looking in the wings, waiting for the savior. >> look at the first question perry got on foreign policy. herman cain said about pakistan,

about afghanistan, he would consult the generals. it's one thing to run a state government, even a large state like new jersey and the good job he has done. quite another to get on a national stage. >> sean: what do you think that tells you, cain winning in florida, christie and some people trying to draft him. how do you interpret that? >> i think there's dissatisfaction. christie is the wrong guy for the republican party. if you're talking about a pure conservative candidate, i could argue -- >> he's an effective conservative candidate. his problem is, first of all, getting in this late. he's never been in a presidential race. >> clinton got in october of '99. he was very well known around the country. christie has only run one time. he has a big record on the unions, but the other stuff is controversy. don't think he'll win. it's now between perry and romney. >> he wouldn't have trouble

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>> sean: and welcome back to hannity. so while presidential candidate newt gingrich is campaigning hard to take down the president in 2012, his wife calista is trying to educate our kids about american history. she's the author of the brand new book sweet land of liberty. good to see you. welcome back. >> how are you lying the presidential -- liking the presidential campaign stuff. >> it's been great experience. it's amazing. first of all, your book is number five on amazon for kids books already. it's just out tomorrow. >> today. >> 0 today is our first day. >> lynn cheney's books were massive sellers. >> yes. this is what stuns me. the majority of fourth graders cannot identify why the pilgrims left england. most fourth graders cannot say why hai abraham lincoln is an important figure in u.s. history anhistory.

>> we have a lot of work to do. about two generations ago our country stopped teaching american history, so we have to go back to the basics and this book is meant to be an introduction of our pivotal moments of history for young children ages 4 to 8 so they can aappreciate the beauty of this nation and understand why we're so special. they can also understand the qualities that have made us a great nation. >> if you don't understand the basics, no wonder why some kids grow up and they have these proafs thaprofessors that don'tn american exceptionalism. by the way, the illustration is phenomenal. >> thank you. >> there is the elephant. >> ellis the elephant. >> was it because you could have picked ellis the donkey but i don't think it would have worked so well. >> we could have picked ellis the condy, bu donkey, but we di. we looked at bunnies and giraffes, but we picked the

elephant. >> tell us some things kids will learn. they'll learn about the pilgrims, you walk through space history. explain. >> so what we've done is try to select those pivotal moments that have really shaped our history. ellis begins looking at our defining moments, looking at the pilgrims, the first thanksgiving. he imagines what it would have been like to have been at the boston tea party and joining george washington cross the delaware to help kids understand what a marvelous country this is. >> you talk about the first man on the moon. >> that's right. >> the great pie nears. >> right. we have the wright brothers included in the book. kids love rocket ships and airplanes, and we want them to know they, too, can be inventors. they can lid adven live lives of adventure. >> when i read statistics on education and there was recent study that said that america is going to be fifth economically

in a few short years, the ifm is predicting in one case that china will surpass us by the year 2060. i always -- it's just never been a thought to me that america shouldn't be number one in math and science and invention and technology. what's gone wrong? what do you think the problem is. >> i think a lot of our schools have just stopped teaching the basics, so we really have to come back and teach our founding documents and our children have to know what is the basis of being an american. >> did you create ellis for the sole reason that they respond to characters? >> well, children need a unique character to keep their attention. that's why we created ellis the elephant. >> what would we call the democrat? i thought of some names. >> maybe book two will have a brief mention. >> what about when you send your kids to school? what advice would you give them. i get calls on the radio about this all the time.

they say my teacher says this which is factually inaccurate or my teacher tells me obama's the greatest president ever or my teacher says that george w. bush is killing women and children. what advice do you give kids when they find themselves in that predicament. >> i think if they go home and tell their parents, their parents have the right to speak up. tell the teacher that they don't agree. >> sean: i experienced in college that in college and you risk a lower -- i experienced that in college and you risk a lower grade. >> you have to be true to what you believe in and true to our american history. >history. >> sean: are you going to take time away from the book tour? you'll be on "fox & friends" tomorrow. >> yes, i will. i'll do book siengs and school visits and we'll just share ellis across the country as we trav. >> sean: you'll have ellis the elephant, you know, memorabilia? >> stuffed animals. >> sean: there's ellis there. we love ellis. i have a character who will travel with me, and he'll say

hello to the children, take pictures and get them excited about american history. >> sean: great to see you again. thanks for being with us. we'll see you on "fox & friends" tomorrow. that's all the time we have let this evening. thanks for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. greta is next. donald trump is back and he had a big shot visitor. is it the star power that atracts the visitors? a fewo