sesame street in rockefeller center. it's "fox & friends" for this wet thursday. >> welcome back to you, brian. good to have you back. let's talk about -- the story keeps flip-flopping even though you take a day off, we're back to where we were on tuesday. chris christie may be running again. >> it was so moving, the speech that he gave at the reagan museum and his conversations with nancy reagan and you build on that, the bush family pushing him to jump out there, it seems like governor christie is reconsidering running and could make a decision as early as next week. >> that would explain a lot. you know, his speech, while it did seem presidential didn't seem like something a governor from a state would talk about, you know, talk about foreign policy and talked about the debt crisis and talked about american exceptionalism. so when that woman in the audience said can you please reconsider? can you reconsider? can you please run for

president? and he did not give her a direct answer and now with this, that he was so blown away by the reception there at the ronald reagan library two nights ago, apparently the key, though, is his wife mary pat is now on board. she got a phone call from barbara bush. former first lady who said you know what? the time involved, not what you might think. so you'll be ok. >> i might believe that part of the story. because i do think that in a relationship, the wife and the husband have a tremendous amount of influence on decisions like this. however, i do not believe that just because of an overwhelming experience at the reagan library that he suddenly decided that he -- i don't believe that. i think that he has known before that time and has the same response after that speech as to whether or not he's going to run. i have no idea if it's yes or no. but i do think and i said this yesterday, at some point, it becomes a disservice to the republican party to not make a decision. similarly to sarah palin because it's insulting to some of the

other candidates on the stage because it looks like they can't fit the bill. maybe they can't in the mind of the republican voters. it's not good for the party if that's what you're trying to accomplish. >> i think he probably had made a decision, gretch, until the other night and the reception was so overwhelming. apparently, a number of months ago, he talked to his inside staff and they said, ok, if we were to do this, how would you do it? they put together a ground game and figured out how to get the money together very fast. he was blown away and it can turn a lot of heads. >> the problem is his statement of i don't think i'm ready yet and after two years of governor. meanwhile, how much do you know about governor christie? you know he has the budget straightened out in new jersey and made a lot of enemies in the democratic side in pulling him across the aisle and making them sign on to things, so to speak. when you listen to rush limbaugh, he has many questions about how conservative the governor from new jersey is. let's listen. >> i heard a lot of john mccain

in that speech. well, maybe not a lot but i heard enough to send up a red flag or two. herman cain is a conservative that worries me. perry is a conservative that worries me. bachmann is a conservative that worries me -- santorum, a conservative that worries me. reagan was a conservative that worried the republican establishment. christie is not. >> but isn't it all about who can be elected? see, that's what it comes down to. and fortunately or unfortunately, the independents make all the decisions. maybe that should change. but it will really -- it really depends on who the independents would go with. maybe they'll go with a chris christie because as a republican governor in a blue state, he to compromise. that's what independents seem to like from time to time is people looking at things on both sides of the equation and sometimes coming to a decision. >> if you look at the game piece by piece, in iowa, he has no chance to win. you have to get to south carolina and you already have

lost, too, what can you do in florida? let's see what the fox poll has revealed. so they had a series of great questions. one that i could share with you immediately, the question is very simple, in your mind, this is to everybody, whether you're republican or democrat, do you think president obama will be re-elected in 2012? overall, 40% said yes. 46 41% said yes. democrats are still firmly in obama's camp. >> that's right. meanwhile, if the election were held today and don't worry, it's not. it's a thursday and still september a year before, take a look. the president of the united states would actually best mitt romney and mitt romney and rick perry as well. see the numbers, president obama is the far right. mitt romney, we get 42%. the president of the united states would get 45%. that is, however, within the margin of error when you look at president obama, he would best rick perry 47% to 39%. >> now, i'm going to go out on a limb and say that's stunning to me.

that is -- >> kerry drops 11 points in one month. >> that's stunning when we have 9.1% unemployment. >> that the president is still winning. >> take away who the president is, let's put a figure there. this is not -- this is not a criticism of president obama per se. i'm just saying that when history looks back on this and they look at the dire straits that this nation is in, on so many levels, and you still have that poll result, it's stunning to me. >> i think the white house has been very effective in convincing people that, you know, when he took office, we were in such a ditch and then we got the car out of the ditch but it wasn't his fault. he just inherited a whole big headache. >> here's the most stunning result. when they asked republicans who is your number one guy? mitt romney moves back to the top spot. only one point up from where he was, believe it or not, the story is rick perry's drop to 19 and the stunning surge of herman cain at 17.

he's now in the top tier. >> right, he's up 11 points and newt gingrich is not considered in the top tier. they say the top tier is the top three but he's at 11% up from just three points a month ago so there's a lot of traction and action on the republican side. >> this is exactly why when people get ahead of theelves and say oh, those people should k drop out of the race, why? look at herman cain, he tripled his number in three days. it's anyone's ballgame out there. if you believe in the american dream, why the hell would you ever encourage anyone to drop out of that dream? i don't get it! >> listen, we still got a little more than a month for people to file, to run in florida and south carolina and get their names on the ballot. >> maybe he'll come back, he heard your speech and he's coming back. >> american dream. sarah palin probably won't but this morning, the news is chris christie might and could have a decision by monday.

>> all right, just make it. now to the other stories making headlines right now. getting a first look this morning at res juan ferduce, he is sure about this. 26-year-old u.s. citizen accused of plotting to blow up the pentagon and the capitol. this photo from his high school year sf book. his plan was to pack explosives and remote-controlled airplanes like this one and fly them into the building. he grew up in massachusetts. he graduated from northeastern university with a degree in physics. so much for alleged terrorists being poor. and not american citizens. according to the justice department, he was radicalized by watching jihadist web sites and wanted to kill enemies of allah. he was taken down by undercover f.b.i. agents. ferdaus thought the agents were al-qaida recruiters. terror warning for americans living in saudi arabia now. a terrorist group might be planning to kidnap westerners in the capital. the embassy urging all americans

to be cautious but giving no further details about the plot. a convicted cop killer paying the ultimate price for his crime. he was executed at a florida state prison last night, more than 30 years after he shot a police officer in coral gables. he stopped him for running a red light in a stolen car. pena's family was there to watch him die. he did not have any last words. today, the house is expected to sign off on a short term spending bill to avoid a government shutdown. it will keep them in business until october 4th. that's only next week. the bill must be passed by unanimous consent that is expected to happen. that will allow members to stay on recess. stay on vacation until monday. those are your headlines. >> have to tell you a story about kids football, peewee football in, my town it's called mustangs, you might have a travel league and town league. i've heard this issue before and it seems to divide this country.

you think democrats and republicans are divided. hear about this. this is about a football player and this kid is so fast, so be quick, they have invoked the madre hill rule to control him because nobody else can. >> that's right. the great madre hill went to this particular intermediary school in melbourne, arkansas and there he is right there. and they have invoked the so-called madre hill rule so this kid who today is so fantastic and can really run up the score, if their team is leading by 14 points, that kid jimmerson is not allowed to score anymore. absolutely not. >> any kid that's this good, this strong. he scored seven touchdowns in one game. >> congratulations. >> american dream. there you have it again. congratulations for doing what you do best. my goodness, why would we try

to, you know, clamp down on something he's doing well? i don't get it. >> i can see this because having seen this up close, there are certain goods who get big quick and incredibly tal enented and can't be stopped. if you're trying to have a game, you're not saying lose the game, you're saying let's try to stay competitive. it's almost like the mercy rule in baseball. >> they make him sit on the sidelines? >> no, he can't carry the ball and he can't score. >> is he a decoy? >> he can play wide receiver or play defense. >> here's the thing about it -- this kid is absolutely ok with the rule. here he is. >> i run hard and bring my team to victory. but god always comes first. before anything. and grades second. >> god first and grades second. football, does that mean it's third because he's really good at it?

>> next year, he can run as hard as god wants him to because there is no rule for seventh graders. there is the rule for fifth and sixth graders. >> exactly. what do you think? do you think it's appropriate to put a lid on the kid so he can't score anymore or do you understand because, you know, they are just kids? we're not talking high school kids or anything like that. >> i did a show with jim brown and i think that jim brown would be on your side which is basically, let me score 12 touchdowns because i want to. >> i wonder what that does to his psyche. >> he knows he's great. >> i don't know. i struggle with this one. i wonder down the road when you tell kids, hey, you're really great. don't be so great! i mean, i think that sends the wrong message, i really do. >> you have to worry about the other kids. kids are fickle at that young age. >> come on! >> you know what? there's always going to be someone who is smarter and they go to harvard, ok? that's the way the world works. everyone gets a trophy and that's wrong. >> for someone like me who is better than everybody else in everything i try, i need to be

controlled. i need to be controlled. >> i need the madre hill rule. i've invoked that on the couch and i promise not to get ahead of your guys. >> somehow the memory of shaq stuffing your head in your hands with the basketball. >> i don't remember that. we have no video of that. anyway -- >> we ran it yesterday. >> friends at foxnews.com. all right, straight ahead on the rundown, he spent years protecting usama bin laden, now his bodyguard is a free man, wait until you hear who lets him go. >> and the president says he's creating jobs but at what cost. does over a million dollars a job sound like a good price? charlie gasparino breaks down the numbers. >> i think he's ready for a fight. [ male announcer ] heard this one?

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>> all right. the president is touting his new jobs plan, he says it will rescue the economy or keep and add 280,000 jobs over two years but at what cost, steve? >> brian, great question. a new report says it can cost over a million dollars per job. joining us right now, he's already laughing, a fox business senior correspondent charlie gasparino. why are you laughing at those million dollar jobs we're buying? >> right now it's up to a million. it's bizarre this whole thing about spending government money. the bottom line is it's not supposed to cost the american taxpayer anything. jobs are created because you create economic conditions that free enterprise system works. i mean, it's people owning businesses and hiring people because they have the right incentives. i will say this, whether you're

-- if you like the president or not, the incentives are not there right now. it's not just the general economy but it's the tax structure. he wants to raise everybody's taxes and wants to raise taxes on small businesses. why would any small business want to hire when you expect higher taxes from obamacare or forget about the millionaire's tax, families making 250 are going to have their taxes increased in two years if obama gets re-elected. that's the bottom line. by the way, that hits small businesses. so the incentives aren't there and when the incentives aren't there, the government can spend all it wants, you know, $200,000, a million, 3 million whatever. if i'm looking at a presidential candidate and he says what you just said, no big deal. it struck me that mayor bloomberg said exactly what you said who is a big fan of president obama. he said, for example, he said when you hear that tomorrow, the taxs are going to go up or tomorrow, we don't know where it's going to be or the next day, we understand we'll be hauled into prison because now there's a big push to arrest these people from when the banks blew up in 2008, that takes

everything down. >> well, you know, businesses, i talk to small business people all the time and people that run not the guy that mows your lawn, necessarily but people that run small businesses that employ 50 to 1,000 people. what they tell you is this, they don't plan for tomorrow so temporary tax cuts as the president said doesn't matter. they plan for three years. that's the way they budget and think of hiring. let me tell you something, if you're telling me you're going to raise their taxs in a year, well, they're planning for that now. that's why they're not hiring. >> when people at home making 30, 40, $50,000 a year, they see that each job is $1.4 or $1.6 million, it's like how come i don't get a piece of that pie? >> listen, my dad was a bartender. when he wasn't working, he was a construction worker. he would say we need rich people out there spending money and there's a class warfare argument. people are mad right now. remember, if you don't have rich people, they don't build stuff. they don't spend money in bars and restaurants and they don't put money back into the economy if you take money out of their pockets. >> one thing the president is learning, rich people don't give

to campaigns. >> you've been buffeted. >> yeah. or like jamie diamond, the ceo of j.p. morgan who is flirting with mitt romney. very interesting. former obama supporter, head of the biggest bank and maybe the most successful bank out there is flirting with mitt romney. >> good to know who mitt romney is flirting with. >> i think he's flirting with somebody. >> thanks for flirting with us. >> thank you. >> we played you the tape yesterday of a drugged out michael jackson. 6 >> this morning, there are new details about the drugs he took. up next, we'll talk to an anesthesiologist who breaks down the deadly cocktail. >> how this bride and her wedding party wound up in lake michigan! capital one's new cash rewards card

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>> time for some quick headlines on this thursday. brand new video of amanda knox entering a courtroom in italy a couple of minutes ago. knox expected to make an emotional plea to the jury today in italian. she wants her murder conviction overturned. and accused arizona shooter jared lee loughner may have his day in court after all. a federal judge says he believes loughner will be mentally

competent to stand trial if he continues his treatment for schizophrenia. he's accused of killing six people and shooting congresswoman gabrielle giffords. all right. gretch, back to you. >> thanks very much, the prosecution in the trial against dr. conrad murray says the doctor killed the king of pop, michael jackson by giving him a lethal dose of drugs. the defense says that jackson was the one who delivered the final blow. so just how did michael jackson die? >> michael jackson swallowed eight, two milligram lorazapam pills so when dr. murray left the room, michael jackson self-administered a dose of propofol that with the lorazapam created a perfect storm in his body that killed him instantly. >> here to explain, the doctor who knows these kinds of drugs inside and out, the

president-elect of the new york state society of anesthesiologists, dr. salvatore vital. good to see you. >> thank you, gretchen, very much. we heard there from the defense that these drugs were self-inflicted and that it created a perfect storm of immediate and instantaneous death. >> yes. >> you deal with these two drugs combinations all the time. is that plausible? >> yeah. yeah, that's a very dramatic statement, gretchen, and what i'd like people, your viewers to understand is that these drugs are administered routinely during anesthetic care and that if they have to receive these drugs, they shouldn't be afraid that they're going to die instantly. let's say you were to come for some surgery today, i would have an intravenous in you and give some of these drugs to make you feel relaxed and i'd give you some propofol and intentionally get you to stop breathing. i'm trained in the use of drugs.

i will apply a mask to your face and start ventilating you by hand and helping you breathe and then what i may do is put a breathing tube in your windpipe and continue to help you breathe. commonly do this for surgery so likely what this combination does is causes apnea, causes you stop breathing. with properly trained individuals, people don't die instantly, they stop breathing. >> i have to say, when i read the notes because i've had these drugs for surgery, when i read the notes that patients do actually stop breathing, it did take me back a little bit. >> yeah, and that's why i don't want your viewers to be afraid, oh, my god. i can't -- don't administer these drugs. now, the thing i need to tell you about propofol is there is a warning the f.d.a. has on the drugs and people who want more information about it should go to our american society of anesthesiologists web site, the drug was introduced in the early 1990's and it replaced another drug that was terrible. people were vomiting after surgery. they hated it in. in 2005, the american college

wanted to reduce that warning and remove it. our american society has a very good discussion on propofol and why the warning needs to be there. this is a drug that should be administered by people who know how to give general anesthesia. >> people understand this should not have been administered privately in a home for someone to try to go to sleep. but do you find it interesting that apparently, his doctor, dr. murray, requested a cpr machine just a few days before he died. i mean, is this something that you also have on hand in the event that somebody has a problem with these drugs? >> yeah, i've never really heard of what we call a cpr machine. there is, i would assume is an automated defibrillator device and more and more as they become less expensive and more available, they are used to save people who have arrhythmias so it wouldn't -- it wouldn't be totally unreasonable to have this type of machine around. >> but the most important thing would be to be a doctor who actually does this on a daily basis. >> right. >> and understands the ramifications. >> the things that our societies want to emphasize is anesthesia

is safe. propofol is a safe drug. optimally an anesthesiologist should be involved every time it's given. we understand there's situations that an anesthesiologist may not be available. what we want is people who are trained in the airway and trained in general anesthesia be there. >> thanks very much for your time and the explanation. >> all right. >> coming up next on the rundown, a pastor in iran could be executed today for refusing to renounce his christian faith. can anything be done to save him? then gloria estefan like you've never seen her before. she sat down with us and opened up with us about marriage, military and immigration. that is 10 minutes away. happy birthday to jerry lee lewis. 76 today.

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don't you have to do something before you go on vacation? i thought they were on vacation. >> and while the president is out pushing his jobs bill, harry reid is in no hurry to put it on the docket. >> he says he can't get the votes. he says i don't have enough support for it. >> what? it's a democrat majority. what's that about? the president is behind it. >> there's not one single democrat in the house that would put their name underneath it to sponsor it. >> finally has been introduced. >> by? >> by the name is escaping right now but i believe yesterday it was finally introduced by one democrat. >> see how that goes. now to the stories making news right now. seems an al-qaida commander that served as usama bin laden's bodyguard is back on the streets. pakistani officials just released him from jail. u.s. intel sources say he was the security coordinator for bin laden's black guard. pakistani officials say they could not prove that and he's in poor health so they set him free. >> shocking story out of iran this morning, a pastor there could be executed as early as today because he refuses to renounce his christian faith.

the pastor has islamic ancestry but has never been a practicing muslim and now an iranian cou says too bad. he must recant his faith in jesus christ. human rights groups say even if his death sentence is overturned, it will be unlikely that he'll actually be released from prison. >> meanwhile, former washington, d.c. city worker charged with embezzling more than $400,000 of our money, mary zander right there who worked at the d.c. office of tax and revenue now charged with fraud. prosecutors say over the past four years, she accessed taxpayer accounts and had refunds wired into her bank accounts. >> all right, he gives a whole new meaning to taking the plunge. you know that word, that phrase. you're looking at the entire bridal party that fell into sugarloaf lake in michigan. even the bride is knee deep in water. they were taking pictures of the lake when the bridge gave way and this videographer said i'm

going to keep taping this. the groom towel dried his bride-to-be before heading down the aisle. >> now, that's funny. >> and memorable. >> glad everybody is ok. >> right. >> big day, i'm sure that's -- i'm sure that's good -- >> what's so funny back there? >> old milwaukee. >> i thought that was a diet coke. >> got to love it. >> all right. meanwhile, let's take a look. around the great lakes, we have a little bit of rain overnight into the morning hours as you can see. also, we got some rain moving through portions of the northeast and the mid atlantic, some thunderstorms have been developing off coastal georgia. overnight. a little action down along the gulf of mexico and some spotty rain down in the great state of texas. meanwhile, as you head out the door on this thursday, if you're out in rapid city, you got 57. but that's not nothing compared to missoula, montana, right now,

it's 37 degrees. already feeling a lot like wintry conditions out there. meanwhile, here in new york city, it's downright tropical. we got some rain. we got 70 degrees and a lot of humidity as well. meanwhile, later on today, things are going to get up into the century zone. if you're down around dallas/ft. worth, you'll hit 100 there. mid 80's in the mid atlantic. 90's along the gulf coast. 60's and 70's throughout the northeast and 60's today in the northern plains. today, the high, 92 in tampa bay. and we start there brian because -- >> it's one of the most unbelievable ends to a baseball season you can remember. two epic collapses by two historic franchises. wild card finish, you have tampa bay slugger evan longoria rips a walk off home run and they overcame the yankees 7-0 lead to beat the yankees and sending the rays to the playoff as the american league wild card team. how did the rays get into the post season? because the red sox forgot how to win in all of september.

i believe they lost 17 of their final 23 games because jonathan papelbon blows this one capping their epic collapse. blows the lead in the ninth. the orioles who are going nowhere celebrate like they're going to the playoffs but they're not. it's going to be carnage in the off season in boston. in atlanta, the braves collapsing and collapse in epic fashion losing to the first place phillies in 13. the phils now play the cardinals who started the night tied with the braves for the wild card. when the night was over, the cardinals won handily and the braves didn't. cardinals move forward. incredible and the mets finishing out a season at home. the season not known for anything except for a subpar play but shortstop jose raez pulls a controversial bunt and punt. he says that's it. if i'm leading the league in hitting, why would i screw it up by getting out again? he put all this pressure on him and it pays off. he wins the batting title with a

.337 average. first met in history to win the batting crown. a lot of people were upset saying you got to finish out the game. there's the fans that came to see you play. you're the most exciting player on the team. for me, i have no problem. win the batting title. that's ok. >> why not? who is on your radio show today? >> funny you bring that up, steve, chris wallace will be on live. that should be fun. general jack keen in the studio and governor/senator george allen who wants to be the next senator from virginia all on between 9:00 and noon, xm sirius. >> busy show. coming up on our show, new details on the man who allegedly planned to fly explosive filled remote control airplane into the capitol building and the pentagon. we're live in washington with the update on that. >> then a revealing interview with gloria estefan. weighing in on the immigration debate, she stops rumbaing and sits down with brian coming up. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu uss chose prego.

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>> he wanted for use tiny planes to inflict catastrophic damage, talking about a 26-year-old american citizen accused in a sickening plot to murder innocent people. the details are still pouring in. for the very latest, let's head to east potomac park in washington, d.c. where stacy cohen joins us live with an update. what can you tell us? auto good morning. rezwan ferdaus apparently made a trip here to washington earlier this year and east potomac park is apparently a site he chose to launch his potential attack. i'm positioned between the pentagon and the capitol building about equal distance. that, perhaps, is why he scouted

this as a possible location. the plan was to use remote-controlled planes, packed with c-4 explosives, not only to take out those buildings but additionally bridges and then he would use grenades and machine guns to terrorize the city. now, federal officials moved in when they went to deliver these explosives and weapons to ferdaus. they had initially contacted him when an f.b.i. informant called saying ferdaus had been patrolling the jihadist web sites in a search for a plan to destroy americans. according to the complaint filed in court, he planned to kill as many americans as possible and his reason to target the pentagon because he described it as the head and heart of the snake. the snake being the american government. prior to this, we know of no previous run-ins with the law besides a minor vandalism charge when he was in school. back to you. >> thanks very much. we'll have extended interviews on this topic throughout our show today because again, this is an american citizen who is

educated at northeastern university. he's a physicist, you know, smart, well off, apparently, and here we go again. i mean, we luckily thwart one of these terrorist attacks. >> right. you know, it's just amazing how law enforcement is able to catch up with these people and thwart the attacks ahead of time. gloria estefan could only come to our studios in the afternoon. i was fascinated to find out that her dad was a vietnam vet, what she did to overcome her own shyness as well as the fact that she's a part owner of the miami dolphins. and is very excited about a brand new c.d. that she hasut so let's watch together. >> all right. >> ♪ shake your body do that funk i know you can't control yourself any longer come on baby say you love me five, six, seven times get on your feet get on your feet ♪ >> so tell me about the -- this is your first album in english in eight years. >> yes, it is. we had a grammy winning album

four years ago in spanish which was fantastic. but, you know, at this point i've done so many albums and we've never gone into the studios thinking oh, let me do another album. you have to have an idea, musical idea, something you want to share and actually called me up and said i want to run somebody by you. >> tell everybody who that is. >> an amazing artist, performer, writer, producer, ferrell has worked with madonna, britney spears, gwynn stefani, great producer who very edgy and, you know, urban and he was -- he had an idea for me. >> this album is going to be great and i know it's going to be a big success and as an english speaking person, i feel responsible to make it successful. >> i hope so, too. >> i got to talk about what else you do. you're also a tremendous philanthropist and you spent a lot of time with the miami project. after the accident, knowing that paralysis could have come to you, you helped raise -- helped them raise $40 million.

>> i have. and we gave them a million bucks and i got three songs that goes automatically to the miami project "coming out of the dark" "always tomorrow" and "pass to the right" which are songs that came through me and have been very helpful as my fans tell them in people's lives like music was to me, a healing force so all the money i make from those songs goes directly there. i want to be a part of that cure. i was so lucky, you know, could have been completely the other way. scenario they were telling me was not what i'm living now. >> let's talk about something else that matters to you, this country. you do a lot for the troops. in fact, you were in a program where troops read books to their kids. >> yes, yes, that's a great idea and my dad actually had come up with that idea when i was a kid because when he went to nam, you know, none of these things existed. he went out and bought a reel to reel quarter inch tape, nobody out there probably remembers this stuff. he got one for him and one for us and he would talk to us, because my baby sister was 3 when he left and he didn't want her to forget what he sounded like and i would play my guitar and sing to him. he would take it into the tent

and bring all the officers in and he would cry. and i heard a tape that one of those tapes where he said, i have no doubt one day you're going to be a big star. i only heard that a few years ago. it breaks my heart to listen. he loved it. >> i know you care about politics, too. >> i do. >> you missed the debates the other night but see the aftermath. governor perry of texas comes out and says you know what? my state policy in texas is if you're an illegal immigrant and go to high school there, you're going to get tuition breaks like any other resident. as someone of a hispanic descent. >> immigrant. >> immigrant. >> i was legal, though. >> you were legal. how do you stand on that because other republicans like governor mitt romney when he was in massachusetts didn't want that. >> look, a lot of people aren't going to want what's happening in general with the immigration situation. it kind of upsets me that it becomes a hot button issue every time there's a, you know, an election and then it goes away. and i'm an immigrant. there has to be an orderly way for people to come into our country. there's no doubt about it. but there's a lot of people, you

know, what like 12 million that are in this country and they're paying sales taxes. they're part of the economy. they're taking jobs that maybe americans really don't want, you know, and they -- they add a lot to the country so if a kid has been here and they've graduated high school, i got to say, i would say, you know, why not? >> i got to ask you about what else, the hot thing in music is the x factor, "the voice" "american idol", how too you feel about what some are calling maybe a shortcut to success? >> shortcut? that is suffering all the way, baby. at least when i did my music, you know, before it exploded -- >> you broke out at 17, would you say? >> no, it took me 10 years. by the time we became famous with dr. beat, it was 1985. i joined the band, actually october 25th of 1975 was my first gig. so i had a good 10 years to prepare. these poor people get thrown out there in front of millions of people. they have to stand and take the critique, take the criticism, get bashed and still sing?

>> your boyfriend, your husband, same one 33 years. >> 33 years. 35 together. married 33 and he was my first and only boyfriend. can you believe that? >> that's unbelievable. >> especially one as sexy as you, i can imagine the suitors were nonstop. >> so sweet. he was my first boyfriend, baby, my first and only. 17 was a little different, i was very shy. i took care of my dad all through high school so i didn't date. i din go out. i had no social life. he says that's why it's good because i'm the only -- he's the only thing i've ever known. baby, i don't have to have hamburger to know i got fillet mignon at home. >> thanks so much. >> first boyfriend, i didn't know that. >> yeah. i like that analogy. fillet mignon one. >> she talked so quick. it took me a second a few times. she does own the dolphins and she showed me different plays the dolphins should be running and unfortunately, we did not have time to go through them. >> dog gone it. >> maybe in the after the show show today. >> there's word that the white house is handing over another

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>> washington is gridlocked but now one of president obama's former budget advisors has got an idea to fix it, by scaling back democracy. huh? a former budget director wrote recently "to solve the serious problems facing our nation, we need to minimize the harm from legislative inertia by relying more on automatic policies and

depoliticize commissions for certain admissions. we need to counter the gridlock of our political institutions by making them a little less democratic. all right. judge andrew napolitano is ready to jump through the television. >> almost. >> we need less democracy, not more, he said. >> basically what he's suggesting and these are his suggestions, who knows if the president likes these. if the president comes out for something like this, he shouldn't -- he absolutely can kiss away his chance for re-election but what he's proposing is a sort of northern european style social democracy in which bureaucrats and commissions of people rule the government and there's nothing that the elected population can do about it. for example, he would have commissions do things that congress couldn't undo. he would have taxes automatically go up and spending automatically increase when unemployment went up. essentially, he's taking the free choices away from our representatives and putting them in the hands of rules that prior

congresses wrote and sort of making them the subject of perfect storms. this would not be a democracy as we have known it. >> well, you know, democracy is so inconvenient sometimes when there's an opposing party that it's stopping you from doing stuff and clearly, this is reflective of what the obama administration would like to do. they'd like to get more stuff done. >> they believe they are the best and the brightest and they would like to have the best and brightest run the country no matter what the people want. the essence of democracy is that the people get to choose, even if that means it's slow, even if that means it's tedious. even if that means we make mistakes, if the government is the product of our free choices, that's not what these people want. >> judge, if this particular brand of government were installed today, they could just say, you know what? we need to raise taxes and they'd raise taxes. >> and taxes would go up and the decision would be made by five nameless, faceless people and there's nothing congress could do about it. this isn't going to happen. it would require serious amendments to the constitution

and a c change in our thinking but i think there are people around who would like to see this happen. >> this is the kind of stuff that the judge talks about on his show on fox business each and every night. check out "freedom watch" with the judge tonight at 8:00. >> thank you, sir. >> sarah palin is on with me tonight. >> name dropper. >> she's going to weigh in on this nonsense. >> see if you can get her to say definitively yes or no. >> thank you very much, judge. he's running to the other studio. meanwhile, coming up, the government has a lot to say about what you eat. but if you listen to them, you could go hungry. are they overregulating food right off your table? and check this out, an amazing view of the southern lights. you can't get anywhere on earth so where do they come from? [ male announcer ] heard this one?

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fantastic thursday. new jersey governor chris christie has been clear, no way, no how. >> i'm not running. i'm not going to. there's zero chance i will. i don't want to run for president. what do i have to do short of suicide to convince people i'm not running? apparently, i actually have to commit suicide. >> ok. cod that old news now? could christie be getting that feeling, the urge? we'll report. >> yeah, we have breaking news on that. meanwhile, he wanted to use toy planes to murder fellow americans but his alleged plot was no child's play. details of the sickening plan to launch jihad against the united states of america. >> meanwhile, talk about cutting the fat. if you ate what the government recommended, you might starve to death. how the feds are overregulating the food right off your table. your breakfast table. we'll tell you all about it. "fox & friends" hour two for a thursday starting right now.

>> hi, this is lynda carter, you're watching "fox & friends." >> she's a wonderful woman. >> yeah, she is. very powerful and you could never -- i remember when we tried to shoot at her, she was able to block all the bullets with her wrists. >> catlike reflexes. >> still. >> yeah, still. very nice to know she also looks fantastic, by the way, i thought i'd add that in. let's do other stories for you now. we have headlines. we're getting a first look this morning at rezwan ferdaus, he's the 26-year-old u.s. citizen accu accused of plotting to blow up the pentagon and t capitol, too. what was his plan? he was apparently going to pack explosives into remote controlled airplanes like this one and fly them into buildings. ferdaus grew up in massachusetts and graduated from northeastern university with a degree in physics. according to the justice department, he became radicalized by watching those jihadist web sites and he wanted to kill enemies of allah. he hatched the plot one year ago. he was taken down by undercover

f.b.i. agents. ferdaus thought the agents were al-qaida recruiters. brand new video ut on of france. former imf chief dominique strauss-khan leaving the police station where he reportedly met with the french reporter who claim now that strauss-khan raped her during an interview in 2003. investigators say it's common in france for suspects to meet with their accusers before prosecutors decide whether to move on with the case. strange. strau strauss-khan just got back there. heartbreaking testimony in the trial of michael jackson's doctor conrad murray. jackson's son and daughter cried as they watched murray attempting to revive michael. >> prince was standing there, and he was just -- he just had a little shock, you know, just slowly crying type of look on his face. >> what was conrad murray doing?

>> he appeared to be administering cpr, he appeared very nervous. >> had conrad murray asked you d alberta if you knew cpr? >> yes. >> murray could get up to four years in prison if convicted of involuntary manslaughter for his role in michael jackson's death. an incredible view from the international space station. you're looking at rare footage of the aurora austrelis or southern lights. increase of solar activity putting on a spectacular display. this footage shot as the station passed over the indian ocean. and those are your headlines. >> that'so cool. steve, do you have "the new york post" today? because it's their story that says they have a source about the most intriguing thing out there in politics and that's who is going to be the next g.o.p. nominee? >> we're not talking about stick up -- >> we're talking about the -- >> talking about this guy right here. it is day two of the christie

watch. according to "the new york post," they have an exclusive that says after months of, you know, kind of hedging whether or not he will be running for president of the united states, this particular item says that he was so blown away by the reception he received tuesday night right there, simi valley, california, at the ronald reagan library where nancy reagan encouraged him and he got encouragement from george w. bush and henry kissinger, now he apparently is close to making a decision once and for all. he probably made one before but now, given the incredible what he referred to as the source, mind blowing experience there, he might actually decide to run. >> so sort of this flip-flop back and forth. it's very nonchristie in my mind. what do people like about governor chris christie, that he tells it like it is, he's up front, sometimes a little too much, brash, apolitical in that sense, doesn't seem to pander to anyone. what is he doing with his decision? exactly the opposite of that chris christie.

not making a decision. i'm thinking about it. no, i'd have to actually commit suicide. how many times --ing>> circumstances have changed. >> i agree with that. i don't know how he's going to get around those statements that he made in the past. >> if you read the article, it's all other people. he's never said i'm thinking about it. he's never said anything except -- he said go to politico, you'll see all my refusals. >> he did. when he answered that other woman, when she questioned for the third time about running, he said i love the feeling that i'm taking it all in. he didn't emphatically say no. >> exactly. according to "the new york post," they also say his wife mary pat apparently has warmed up to the idea. former first lady barbara bush called her up and reassured her the challenge is manageable. and according to "the new york post," mary pat will support whatever her husband decides. he could make a decision. he'll be back in jersey on monday. >> mary pat will be happy if he stands pat, it sounds like. after two years as governor, is he ready to be president? let's ask our -- what we've

asked you and you've written in. jay in south carolina says i really don't get what part of no people don't get. i like christie. i wish he would run. but that he said if he caves into all the pressure, what kind of pressure would he cave into as president? >> interesting tweet. i don't know if it's from tweet number one or the first one we're going to read to you. remember fred thompson? christie is foolish to jump in after all he said. that's interesting. because when you really do kind of put your brain in fast forward, let's say he does it. that means he gives up what he's doing in new jersey, right? so there's no turning back on that and then if he sort of falls off like a la perry in recent days, down 10 points in the poll, not that he can't come back. >> that tweet was from a real fox. >> i saw that image. that "avatar." meanwhile, here's another tweeter who says he should -- he should if as he says, feels it inside. we need a person, not a politician. >> what i thought was noteworthy

about his speech, he talked about his conservative principles, what it meant and what he's doing but he took out president obama, where he's at, where's the jobs plan? why did you not take the simpson-bowles recommendation? that was totally unnecessary for a new jersey governor asked to speak at a library. that's, i think, was intriguing for me. >> he also knew that all major media outlets were covering this speech. i don't think he -- >> who leaked that to him? >> i don't think he was going to focus on new jersey. i mean, he had these events planned for a long time. he was on his way to louisiana, he was in another state before california, i think it would have been a disappointment had he not expressed his views on a national level on the big issues facing our nation today. >> i feel bad for mitt romney, he again is on top of the polls like he was for eight months and once again, there's a big push. get somebody else like governor christie, that's the result of a fox poll that just came in. >> yep, this is -- let's take a look, g.o.p. frontrunner, this is with republican primary voters. mitt romney leads by 23. that apparently is up just one

point from last month, if we put the numbers up, people at home can follow along. or you can follow along and jot it down and make your own chart at home. rick perry is dow 10 points over the last month. he's now at 19. herman cain up 11, he stands at 17 and newt gingrich is in double digits. he's at 1 1, up from 3 a few months ago. >> herman cain has tripled his points for the last couple of days. never say somebody should be out of the race, i don't think. and perry has dropped 10 points. could it be because of his debate performance in florida and more importantly, some of the things that he said so strongly during that debate about immigration and his continuation of discussing the social security as a ponzi scheme? now, it looks like he's going to retract that heart comment that he had about immigration and if you don't agree with the dream act and providing in-state tuition for illegal students, then you don't have the heart. looks like he's going to take that back.

>> he said he's -- he was a bit overpassionate when he said those remarks, he said that to news max and then his wife moved forward and said listen, he's got to do better in the debates but never had a debate class and never had a debate coach and i think it's been years since he was debating. there are reports while williams last night said his report showed that his staff tried to get him to rehearse but he didn't want any part of it. >> yeah. so yesterday, to news max, he did apologize for what he said at the orlando debate. here's the snippet of that from news max. >> i probably chose a poor word to explain that. for people who don't want their state to be giving tuition to illegal aliens, illegal immigrants in this country, that's their call. and i respect that. and i was, you know, i was probably a bit overpassionate about using that word. and it was inappropriate. >> ok. there you go. >> all right, so he has backed

away from the comment he made the other night down there in orlando. >> let's move on. i want to talk a little bit about energy? >> solyndra, what's -- >> plug me in! >> plug you in. i'd like to. first i got to -- >> whoa! >> i love to plug you in. >> you got to apply to the government for a loan. >> a little bit later, we'll learn how to not only plug you in but turn you on. that will be the key. just kidding. i want to continue with the energy talk, that's my hope. let's talk about solar energy. you know about this solyndra thing, the government will be very hesitant to finance any solyndra project. no way loans will be handed out to any company, especially in the wake of the scandal that's flourishing on capitol hill. >> i beg to be counted to that, brian. but apparently, there are two more days on the calendar where the department of energy can give out these loan guarantees. and now it's been announced, $737 million is going to go to develop 110 megawatt facility in nevada called crescent dunes.

as it turns out, one of the big investors in this particular solar -- >> i'm sure has nothing to do with this administration of the democratic party. >> the number two guy is nancy pelosi's brother-in-law. >> oops! >> $737 million guaranteed loans? >> nancy says he's good for it! >> there's ron pelosi right there. >> look at how happy he is. >> yeah. that's a man who has got 110 megawatt smile. >> right. >> i wonder what the bottom line looks like for this company right now because i think one of the most interesting pieces of information that's come out since the demise of solyndra is other energy companies are doing fine. there's a big business going on potentially with solar companies. it's just that the choice in which they did these loans maybe wasn't the best choice and then that makes you start to wonder why they're choosing these particular companies. >> with this particular company, $737 million will create how many permanent jobs do you think? how many? >> i know so i got to be out.

>> one million. >> 45. 45 permanent jobs for $737 million. >> all right. there's also, you know, crescent dunes will be in there, the department announced yesterday $1.2 billion overall so a whole bunch of people getting money and one of the quotes from one of the companies is the betting process is a lot tougher with the government, it took three years as opposed to how tough it would be with a bank. >> we'll be talking about that going forward. are we turning into a nation of regulations? the president doesn't seem to think so, does he? >> i will never apologize for making sure that we have regulations in place, we don't want to be rewarding folks who are gaming the season or cheating consumers. >> but is more government the answer to our economic problems? a fair and balanced debate coming up next. >> and an incredible story, this retired marine uses it to attack a thug, attacking a woman.

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>> look at that, the united states is turning into a regulation nation and president obama has no problem with that. listen. >> i will never apologize for making sure that we have regulations in place. we tonight want to be rebarreding folks who are gaming the system or cheating consumers. >> should big government be ramping up or standing down? let's talk to andrea tantaros and juan williams, both are fox news contributors and co-hosts of "the five" here on fox. good morning to both of you. >> good morning, steve. >> juan, let's start with you. don't you think there are too many regulations already? because the president wants a lot more and businesses are saying you got to be kidding me. >> no, i think that you got to have regulation in a country where, you know, we've gone through a period where we've

seen consumers have to pay onerous interest rates and at times exploiting poor people, people that are in economic need. i think you look at what happened on wall street that led to our economic problems and again, you have to say dodd frank and those regulations are important to our well being as a country. we went through two terms of esident bush who did a lot to deregulate and make sure that business had every opportunity to succeed and i think in the cycle of politics, you would expect that president obama and the democrats would come back and say, well, where is it that there are holes and things that become damaging to consumers, we don't want to live in beijing and be able to breathe the air and have people hacking and wheezing every day. >> the other side, your side argues, though, look, we need less government, not more. look at how many irs agents are they going to have to hire to make sure the health care thing is followed correctly and a quarter of a million people at e.p.a., if things go through. >> it's absolutely true.

look, you want smart regulations in place. but that's not what this administration is doing. they're putting onerous regulations in place. look, in august, they proposed seven new regulations at the cost of $1 billion and then, steve, if you remember, the day that the jobs report came out at zero growth, the president backed off those ozone regulations. that was an acknowledgment by this administration that they are strangling businesses. they are costing now, i guess, the e.p.a. is asking for $21 billion. get this, and for 203,000 new employees, even though they admit, steve, that these regulations are unlikely to pass and that even implementing them as is "absurd." it's really onerous at this point. they're bowing down to a very -- just crazy environmental policy. >> 30 second rebuttal. >> i'm so glad that andrea said the truth which is that the obama administration being sensitive to business, withdrew that ozone regulation once they

heard that people said this is a problem. >> because they know -- >> that doesn't sound like an administration that's out of touch with the needs to make sure businesses feel comfortable with what regulations are in place. that's a different thing than saying we don't need regulations, we're overregulated. to the contrary, we need to make sure we have some protections in place for all of us as americans who wants to live in a stable, safe society. >> we'll have to send it right there for a while. check them out on "the five" right here. 5:00 eastern time. thanks for joining us live. >> have a great day, guys. >> you as well. >> julian assange has plenty to say such as spilling classified documents about our nation's military. apparently, no one wants to listen to him. wait until you hear how few books he's selling. then sophisticated surveillance tools and street smarts help them bring down some of new york's baddest guys, the mob. two detectives share their story next.

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>> 23 minutes after the top of the hour. let's do a little math. first, that's how much ground beef is being recalled now by tyson's foods due to an e-coli scare. next $25 million. that's how much reebok is refunding customers that bought the easy tone or run tone shoes. federal trade commission says that reebok could not prove that the shoes can actually tone muscles. wow. finally, $13 million, that's how much tina fey and eva longoria raked in last year to top the "forbes" list of tv's highest paid actresses. congratulations, ladies. >> all right. in the 1980's, new york city detectives thought they were solving a simple burglary ring. what's the big deal? until their informants started

disappearing. >> in the late 1980's, the mob informants are turning up dead all over new york. >> for years, there would be cases that were made. it was perfect. we finally got an informant to come in and next thing you know they're shot dead. how? who could have known? for years it went nowhere. in the 1980's, there was murder after murder. case after case. we were so close to getting and then it just completely went dead when the informant or whoever was shot and killed. >> the new national geographic documentary tells that story in "taking down the mob" and shares one of the greatest scandals the nypd has ever seen that was discovered by their own. supervising detective and retired nypd join us here, two of the three involved in this. when you get word, robert, there's a heist so i'm going to go investigate. did your gut tell you this is mob related? >> yes, yes, the way it was done, professionalism of it

seemed to be like a high end -- bunch of gangs that organized to form a burglary ring. >> that's how you guys really partnered up, right? something called the bypass gang. >> bypass gang. >> right. when did this start -- when did the plot thicken, so to speak? >> the plot thickened after our informant was killed in his driveway. attempted to be killed in his driveway and then we knew we definitely had an internal leak somewhere in the police department and f.b.i. >> so you have from 1986 to 1991, you have this investigation. at what point do you realize there's someone working for the mob who also gets his 401k matched with the nypd? >> well, it didn't take long to figure out after dominique was shot it had to be somebody close to this investigation. we had no idea who it possibly could. it wasn't one of us. but in these types of investigations, these large investigations, a lot of people

know within the police department out of the law enforcement agencies that these cases are being investigated so it could have been anybody. >> so frank, as you find out who the two are that work for the mob, what made it so difficult to unearth them and bring them to justice? >> well, the person that was a contact person, anthony casso told the f.b.i. these are the two cops. anthony casso lied to the f.b.i. and didn't use as a witness. the detective at the time and some of his fellow workers developed a witness that was used to testify against these two cops and brought them to trial and they were convicted. >> why did it take so long for this story to get out? >> i think the story has been out. i mean, it was in the papers. out as far as tv, i don't know. >> right, but i'm saying there's a lot of this that the public has never known. a lot of details that we're going to find out. that's going to be tomorrow

night at 9 clob:00 on the natio geographic channel. this is a plot that actually happened. thanks for telling us about it and shedding some light on it. >> you're still friends? >> forever. >> all right. >> the hound. >> you got it. robert and frank, great job. >> thank you so much. >> great to see you. up next, real american hero, you got a retired marine and he hears a woman scream and he jumps into action to save her from a rapist. you have to hear this and why he doesn't want to be called a hero. all he wanted to do was score touchdowns. now one peewee football star at the age of 11 is having his talent capped. for the love of the game or a darn shame? we read your e-mails and try tackling him at home. it's very tough. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu uss chose prego.

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thanks, jimmy. let's tell you about something. did you know the american dietetic association is meeting in san diego this week? it's true. and there's a study that has been published and it talks a little bit about how you know the government is trying to set standards on how much salt you can eat and stuff like that? well, they say one of the analysts from the director of the center for public health nutrition, only 9,000 out of 20,000 people in this country are actually getting the required nutrition from potassium and sodium because it's impossible to live up to the standards that the government is talking about. >> here are some of the government guidelines. for your daily intake of potassium, 4,700 milligrams per day. sodium less than 1500 milligrams per day equals a healthy plate. the problem that they bring up when you actually look into it in detail, though, is that people eat the foods that they can afford, first of all, and maybe that would not always be those particular foods and also, one of the quotes was if we want

to meet the goals, we must be more specific about what we want people to eat. bananas, spinach, papaya, it can be done but not easy. argument is can you eat those foods every single day? you know, continue that pattern and can you afford it? >> i don't think anybody is eating the cantaloupe these days. >> you got to wash it. >> i got to tell you, here's a quote from a doctor on this study. he says we could find no combination of foods that satisfied the low sodium requirements and ensure people get all the nutrients they need. it's mathematically impossible. we'll tell you how they continue to flourish out in san diego. >> if you want to live up to the government standards, good luck because they're tough. brand new video out of italy. closing arguments in the appeals trial of amanda knox under way right now. knox herself may address the jury today in italian begging for her murder conviction to be overturned. the judge saying a verdict will likely come down on monday. greg burke is streaming live

from italy right now with the very latest. hello, greg. >> hello, steve, that's right. amanda knox has been waiting a long time for this, this appeal trial has lasted almost a year. she's been in jail for almost four years and the judge says the verdict will in fact be on monday. it's crunch time for amanda knox. aman amanda, the exchange student from seattle here in italy was convicted -- sentenced to 26 years after that conviction for murdering her roommate, a british woman, her ex-boyfriend, he was given 25 years. both of them are on the appeal now and certainly a lot of interest in this case. in the u.k., italy and, of course, in the united states. today, amanda's lawyer making a very strong case. he said the trial and, in fact, the initial investigation was totally tilted against amanda from the very start. he said she got swept up in this

and that was what happened. he said the initial trial was not only -- the sentence was not only convincing but absolutely flawed. they did not have a motive. didn't have a weapon and no witness. and finally, guys, we spoke just a short time ago with amanda's father, he said he didn't use the word optimistic. he said he's hopeful about the verdict. i asked him if he could even imagine amanda going back to jail. he said, i don't even want to go there. guys? >> live for us in italy. lot of people paying attention to the outcome of that, specifically her family. thank you very much. >> they've done a movie on her life. this is going to be interesting if there will be another chapter. all right. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. lot going on on the news, even more going on on this couch. we have a lot to talk about including the story of a young football player that almost divided us. this 11-year-old, we can't agree on how much he can score on the football field. >> but i guarantee you that i will have the same opinion that i did at 6:00.

>> a senior al-qaida commander who served as usama bin laden's bodyguard back on the streets? pakistani officials just released him from jail. u.s. intelligence sources say he was the security coordinator for bin laden's black guard, pakistani officials say they could not prove that and by the way, he's in poor health so let's just let him go. he's free. >> other guy that was in poor health are still out and still alive. incredible story out of new york city. got a marine veteran who served five years in iraq and afghanistan uses a jar head screen to save a woman from a would-be rapist. the 31-year-old was dropping his young daughter off at the babysitter's when he spotted the man pushing a woman to the ground and trying to tear her clothes off. that's when he yelled "hey, get the bleep off of her". he didn't say bleep. the suspect took off running and he carried the terrified woman to safety. police are still looking for the thug. here's a sketch. he's in his 50's, he has gray

hair, 5'11", about 200 pounds. tough decision, tend to the woman or go chase after him. he doesn't want to be called a hero but clearly acted heroic heroical heroically. >> the drug to help people stop smoking but it's not new. the drug is now being used in eastern europe. it controls nicotine cravings and only costs about $10 a month. the drug was developed in bulgaria during the soviet era but it's not known if the f.d.a. will ever allow it here in this country. >> all right, the life story of wikileaks founder julian assange hardly a bestseller in britain. his autobiography came out this week and has 644 copies have been sold so far. assange was paid a $500,000 advance for the book even though it was written by a ghostwriter. so good luck with that investment. >> all right. >> yeah. >> interesting story about sports. so why don't you explain what happened with this little kid that plays peewee, and really, really good at it.

>> he's unstoppable. he's 11 years old and he's in sixth grade and watch him play. steve, i'll deal you in here because you have a differing opinion. madre hill was an outstanding running back also in high school and he was so good they made this thing called the madre hill rule that says if you score, and he went to the same school, if you score 14 points and up by 14 points and that kid scored two touchdowns, that's all you're allowed to score if you're that kid. he is no longer allowed to carry the ball. >> and i said that i thought maybe that's not living out the american dream and i worry a little bit about what that does to the psyche of a kid who is so good at something and then you tell them, you know what? let's not be quite so good at that particular thing that you do. i worry about that. >> right. and brian, speaking as a current coach, you said you could understand it. >> it's a rule that's in my count, there's some kids that can't be tackled. they're bigger, stronger, faster.

after two touchdowns they're not allowed to carry the ball. >> we're here on the street, it's national coffee day. your guest from a few minutes ago is getting a cup of coffee. >> be nice to him. >> policemen are good at at the coffee. this lady stopped by and your name is joel and you're from canada, right? >> that's right. >> what do you think about this particular town in arkansas clamping down on this kid so he can't score anymore points? >> well, i think it's up to the coach to decide that, whether he thinks it's fair or not. >> i think it's the coach and the school that decided to put it in place. you have a problem with limiting how many points a kid can score? >> no, not -- yes and no. it depends. if they know that the team is not going to come back and score a bunch of points against them, maybe they should just give the other kids a chance or put another kid from the bench in. you know, i don't think he should actually be benched. >> ok.

just won't let him score. now, is that you talking or is that the coffee talking? because it is national coffee day and folks, this is interesting. at dunkin donuts today through the -- i think the 20th day of october, you would be eligible to star in a dunkin donuts commercial, just upload a picture of yourself and say why you're the greatest dunkin donuts fan. do you like dunkin donuts coffee? >> of course. >> would you say you're the greatest fan in america and should be in their commercial? >> yes. >> why do you like the coffee? >> it makes me wake up. >> it makes you wake up? and this coffee is great because it's free, right? >> yes. >> if you want to be in the ad like this guy, go to their facebook page and find out how you can do it. all right. meantime, have some coffee. -- how is the coffee? >> delicious. >> quite a crowd. we have three people now. let's go ahead and take a look at the day ahead weatherwise. the friends weather and looky

there, we got some rain throughout portions of the northeast. also we've had some stuff off coastal georgia and affecting folks in north and south carolina at this hour. a lot of rain along the gulf coast. current temperatures as you head out the door in new york city where we're giving away free coffee for another 30 seconds, it's 70 degrees. we had 65 in raleigh. a lot of 60's across dixieland. 70's, approaching 80's around the gulf coast and 60's up in the northern plains and those 60's will continue in the northern plains today. the southern plains, though, it's going to be hot. look at that, dallas today, 100. san antonio right in there, it will be 92 in tampa. would you like some free coffee? all right. good. you want some milk? all right, great. >> gretchen, brian, back to you. >> thanks very much. that coffee looks darn good. >> right. he's also a full service anchor. >> that's very nice.

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is >> first, president obama offends african-americans by telling them to quit whining and get off the couch and get -- take their slippers off at the congressional black caucus, remember, now he's alienating some hispanics with this. >> i will never apologize for making sure that we have regulations in place, we don't want to be rewarding folks who are gaming the system or cheating consumers. >> now, many hispanics are frustrated with the president for claiming that he can't achieve immigration reform because republicans control the house. he said we live in a democracy. here with his response is immigration attorney francisco

hernandez. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, how are you? >> i'm doing fine. what do you think about the president saying we live if a democracy meaning those republicans are standing in my way, he could have done it when the democrats ran both houses but he didn't it. >> and it is frustrating and you know what? we can pass it right now. at the very least, we can pass the dream act but it's become the political red headed stepchild. we could have passed it but we blew our political capital on the health care reform and this could come back, president obama as the read my lips did george bush, he said he would do it. he committed to doing it. it hasn't been done. it could have been done on the republican congress and could have been done under the democrat congress. both sides can't get greedy. >> i understand, too, the administration released numbers that they've deported more on average than the bush administration in terms of illegals sending -- fining them and sending them back to their own country. >> sure and that's just trying to rack up political numbers.

it's just so you can say that you've deported more people than anybody else. it doesn't get us any further ahead. it appeases some conservatives but quite frankly, those conservatives that it appeases are not going to switch and vote democrat. >> sure and francisco, real quickly, one of the things is unions silently oppose immigration reform, you say. >> thank you. yes, absolutely. the immigration reform and the dream act failed with george bush under republican congress. it failed with a democratic congress and it has failed with president obama. there are many of us who believe that the unions are the silent enemy of immigration reform. president bush could have passed it if the democrats had come up and said we'll carry our votes if he goes get 20% of your votes. >> francisco, did you see any candidates along with the president that has already acquired your vote by their actions and their policies? >> well, i'll tell you who brings a smile to my face is governor rick perry who is all of a sudden become the

ultraconservative immigration, humane candidate of the republican side, it's uncanny. >> you voted for obama last time, would you vote for perry this time? >> oh, let's see how it develops. i like governor perry, he's a good man. >> all right, joining us from ft. worth. thank you, sir, for joining us live. >> thank you. >> can you say oops? the white house makes a major blunder in u.s. geography, can you spot the mistake? >> hmmm. we told you at the top of the hour, the white house may be sending over $700 million to another solar company, this one linked to -- >> coincidence, what do you mean? >> you're right. more on the top sto when we continue. [ malennouncer ] to the 5:00 a.m. scholar.

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issue be be. >> gretchen: the president, no be way, no how. >> i'm not running. i'm not going to. zero chance i will. i don't want to run for president. what do i have to do short of suicide to convince people i'm not running? apparently i actually have to commit suicide. >> gretchen: this morning, could it be a different story? guess what. he may not be totally sure. we'll report. >> steve: meanwhile, the white house accused of putting the brakes on a ford commercial because it trashed the government auto bailout. now michelle malkin says this is just the tip of the iceberg. good morning, white house. >> brian: can you say, oops, the administration makes a major blunder in u.s. geography. can you tell what's wrong with this map? "fox & friends," nothing wrong here. cue the singers, we're ready to start. >> this is frank and you're watching "fox & friends."

>> steve: that's great. >> gretchen: i was looking closely at that and i can't figure out exactly what might be wrong. we'll tell you what it is. >> steve: it's good. so brian, is that how it works, you from now on be will cue the singers and they'll sing? >> brian: right. because they look at me like be when do i start? now i can be do this. >> gretchen: wow. >> steve: thank you, be singers. >> gretchen: you have amazing controls. >> steve: let me at the 2-year-. citizen accused of plotting to blow up the pentagon and the apparently he was going to pack explosives into remote-controlled airplanes like into those buildings. he grew up in massachusetts, graduated from northeastern university. guess what? he has a degree in physics. according to the justice

department, he was radicalized by watching jihaddist web sites and kill enemies of allah. he was taken down by f.b.i. agents. he thought they were al-qaeda recruiters. new video out of lib y. top republican leaders meeting with the new government in tripoli right now. the delegation includes senators john mccain of arizona, mark be kirk of illinois, be marco rubio of florida, and lindsey graham of south carolina. their trip comes one month after the ouster of gadhafi. but we don't know where he is. >> brian: by the algerian border >> gretchen: the head of machine machine's security team testifying that jackson's son, prince and daughter, paris, cried as they watched murray attempt to save their father's life. >> paris was on the ground balled up crying and prince was standing there and he just had a real shocked -- slow low crying

type of look on his face. >>hat was conrad murray doing? >> he appeared to be administering cpr. he appeared very nervous. >> conrad murray asked you if you knew cpr? >> yes. >> gretchen: dr. murray could get up to four years in prison if convicted of involuntary manslaughter for his role in emergency in the death. the white house getting an f in geography. they gave out press credentials with a big mistake. it was supposed to high lie treat states that the president visited, california, washington, and colorado. the problem is, that wyoming is highlighted instead of colorado. the chairman of the colorado republican party says if the white house can't evennen find colorado on a map, how will the president address the issues facing colorado voters? >> brian: good point. >> gretchen: iike steve's point that it was clo. >> steve: yeah, kind of square.

for more, let's go out to colorado and joining us from colorado springs is the author of "culture of corruption" and math expert, michelle malkin. good morning to you. >> good morning. that's col be o beroaming to you guys. >> steve: what do you make of the big news? new york post says that despite the fact he said a million times he's not going to run, chris christ may be reconsidering running for the white house. >> yeah. there has been a lot of mind reading, linguist parting going on here. i'll take him at his word and i think that the reagan speech showed that there obviously is a hunger for another alternative out there. i don't know if chris christie is going to wait it out until the next election be, but viously he's got a constituency and it's deserved. i don't agree with him on be everything. certainly on many social issues and he's going to be another flip flopper on immigration, it

looks like. however, be he has something that a lot of the other candidates don't have. that's credibility when it comes to koro fiscal be issues and standing up to the public be employee unions. >> gretchen: the thing that i find interesting is that -- people like be about had him is that he is right to the point and he sometimes is brash and he seems to be not like a politician in a sse, and yet on this decision, he's not acting that way. it's not something that -- >> steve: he said no, no, no. that's pretty clear. >> gretchen: but now it seems like he's reconsidering or maybe be not. >> steve: if it's -- >> gretchen: is there a dikiotome in his personality, chelle? >> yeah, i think you're right about that. i think it's a danger for him to have touted the speech to do this and not make a decision, particularly if you watch the speech, there was a line that was very compelling where he went after obama and said we need somebody who is not a

bystander. this is a quote, not a bystander in the white house. somebody who is actually going to do something instead of standing on the side lines and blaming. well, there is a little bit of projection there, as long as he hasn't jumped into the race. >> brian: i tell you what, let's move on and talk about something less controversial, solar energy. first off, be we have 20 days and counting, how long will it be be before president obama startstalking about solyndra, what he did, what was reviewed, maybe possibly how disappointed he is with the administration okaying this and that company going belly up? >> be 20 days and jay carney the last time he commented on this publicly has sid that the president had had not been briefed on the matter yet and be be the -- the head of the republican party said as long as this guy is besieging the republican party to pass a bill, how long is he going to be

passing the buck, i think that's the way he put it, which is very good -- on this particular issue, be especially at a time where they keep digging. i think i've said before, the first rulef holes is, when you're in one, be stop digging. yet, despite this big huge solyndra sink hole what, is the department of energy doing? pouring more money down it. >> steve: in fact, because there are two more days to go before the stimulus money runs out, doled out by the department of energy, keep in mind, it was the u.s. congress that came up with the stimulus money and figured out where it should go. the story now is apparently a company that is going to get $737 million to build a solar facility in nevada, the number two -- the number two guy at this big investment company is nancy pelosi's brother-in-law. but that has got to be a coincidence. >> yeah. it might just be be. i'll give the benefit of the

doubt on that, especially since it's such a large, huge enterprise. the actual facility will be be based in nevada. you have thisarge investment group based in california on whose board nancy pelosi's brother-in-law serves. i think there are so many more political ties there, both state and national. they're just knee deep in the kind of crony capitalism, venture socialism, whatever you want to call it. there is thousands solyndras blooming across the country. this the latest, hugest one. >> grehen: that's my point, i don't really know about the personal connections or the political connection, but i would think that somebody in washington would be taking a closer look saying, maybe we shouldn't give out these loans exactly right now based on what just happened since it is taxpayer money. >> the government makes a lousy private investor and i think that's the bottom lin on all of these. i think that when it comes to any kind of public-private

partnership, whether it's funding these green junket be s and boondoggles or supports corporate welfare, it deserves scrutiny and the republicans do not have cleanen hands onhis either. look at the texas emerging technology fund in texas be that rick perry is responsible for. it all deserves another look and they've got to stop it. >> brian: your column today talks about something that also has to stop. bullying from the administration down. what examples do you have? >> well, i think this ford fiasco that unfolded over the last week is the latest example of it, even though both the white house and ford are denying it. the detroit news came out with a story that the white house had had official bees who grumbled about that very pular anti-bailout ad in which an ordinary ford consumer said, lookthe obvious, common sense, that the government should not pick winners and losers and apparently there was some leaning on the company to pull

the ad, even though ford is significant officially that it was out of rotation ands that what was expected. but i think what it bespeaks, of course, is this long pattern of bullying and intimidation of cornses, whether you're talking about gibson guits, health insurers, be whom kathleen sebelius was ha ranging -- >> brian: what about the reporter who asked the president a question and he was berated? >> be yes, berated for asking a question that the white house didn't like. there was a small weekly in pleasanton, california that got a call from the white house becaus they didn't like bad press for michelle obama, that this tiny weekly had had published. look, at the same time that obama is complaining that he's the victim and that it's the republican party that are the thug, this is the guy who is shaking around his brass knuckles every time somebody criticizes him. and i think going back to the ford example, it's no

coincidence, i think, be that their attack watch operation, which is still up and running, attack watch, we talked about it a couple of weeks ago -- was most recently targeting conservative critics of the auto bailout. it's very much tied into the campaign strategy to try and win the rust belt, particularly michigan, the great lakes states, by touting the auto bailout as a success. that's a farce and we're still allowed to say it. >> gretchen: it's interesting because that commercial was so effective. it made you actually sit down and wah it. the fact be that it would be out of rotation maybe be not the case. always great to speak be with you. have a great weekend. we'll see you next week. >> be take care. >> brian: if you thought the house market was a bad -- was bad, watch out. our next guest says this year is going to be the worst yet. so is the end of the american dream coming our way? real estate expert bob massi joins us next. >> steve: check this out. amazing view of the southern lights. you can't get anywhere on

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>> gretchen: had hate to tell you, but there may be more dismal news for the housing market. new home sales in august fell it 95,000, a six-month low now. will the housing market ever rebound and what does it mean for you? fox news legal analyst, bob massi, joins me this morning. >> good morning. >> gretchen: great to see you. love talking to you. i wish it was for better news because looking at that month's statistics, it doesn't look good. and i know you don't think it will improve, right? >> no. there is some major issues that this is reflecting. number one, you have failed government programs that we've talked about. we have the unemployment issue, which we know is over the top.

and we have lenders who have gotten be billions of dollars, gretchen, that aren'ten lending money to anybody and you have higher standards now and more money for down payments on homes. so new sales are just not happening in the united states of america be. >> gretchen: here is a really fascinating and sad statistic. new home sales peaked in july 2005. august this past august number is down 80% from that record high. now, what do you think it will take to bring it back? >> you know, gretchen, i wish there was an easy formula, but what i sense is this: i wish the lenders would expedite the foreclosure process, to be very honest with you. they need to be able to just the people that are delinquent and have not had had successful modifications or short sale, move the process of foreclosing so they can take the houses

back, ultimately put them back on the market, although that could drive the prices down even lower because a lot of lenders are holding the properties back. but there has got to be a way to get to the real value of the homes. and gretchen, let me tell you something, and i think is going to happen, there are people like all of us that are making our house payments because we're very blessed and we have the money to do it. but i got to tell you something, be i live in a neighborhood that's a pretty neighborhood be and about 30% of the homes in my neighborhood have been foreclosed on. there is people like myself that live there that are saying, you know what? nobody be is helping the people that is even doing it right. and there is going to come a time, gretchen, when those of us who can make the payments will say, you know what? enough is enough, because our values are going down so much, we're not going to make the payments either and that's going to start another problem. believe me, be that is going to happen in america be, that people that have the money are going to say, the value of the house is so down, it doesn't

make sense to make the payment at all. >> gretchen: i guess that's why we had death of the american dream on a banner underneath you, because your news today is not that fantastic. >> it's really sad. >> gretchen: as always, if people have questions for you, they can be e-mail us here and bob will answer them next week. great to see you, bob. >> thank you so much. >> gretchen: still ahead, rick perry palingsing for his comments now that he made at the last debate. will it make a difference with the voters? did he alienate them? frank be luntz on the words that do and don't work. that's next. plus, give away our democracy. we have too much of it. that's what a former obama be administration official wants to do. eric bolling will weigh in on that. dancing off to this, what a great tune.

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>> steve: quick headlines for you on this thursday morning. the defense team for amanda knox wrapping up their closing arguments right now in italy. knox is expected to address the jury today or tomorrow begging them in italian, to overturn her murder conviction. the verdict in the case expected to come down as early as monday. and it's a dangerous job, but talk about a monumental view. look at that. oh, my goodness! here is emma carini, dang aming

555 feet, she's checking for tahj from last month's quake. she carries an ipad so she can compare each stone to previous records. my goodness. brian? >> brian: same line, different cityies. >> every one of you can help had make it happen by sending a mental to congress, a simple message be, pass this jobs bill. pass this jobs bill. pass this jobs bill right away. pass this jobs bill. pass the bill. that's why congress needs to pass this bill. >> brian: president obama seems to be recycling the same economic message, the same exact words day in and day out. >> republicans in congress call this class warfare. you know what? if asking a millionaire to pay the same tax rate as a plumber makes me a class warrior, a warrior for the working class, i will accept that. i will wear that charge as a panel of honor. >> brian: is it is the -- is it

working? let's ask franken luntz. is it working? >> be how can it be working if his approval rating is in the upper 30s, if only 25, 28% approve of what he's done with the economy? however, this class warfare tact, taxing millionaire, almost every poll does show a majority of americans supporting that, including a significant percent annual of republicans. so the rhetoric itself, the public has become tired of. but the idea that the rich should pay more with all due respect to republicans listening, yes, the american people actually think so. >> brian: even though the irs has o shown the rich are paying more and the numbers do not back up his statement, it doesn't matter? >> no one realizes that 47% of americans pay no income tax at all. nobody realizes that the top 10% pay almost half of all taxes. actually more. >> brian: let's talk go governor rick perry of the here is what he said at the -- here is something he wants back that he said at the debates.

let's listen. >> if you say that we should not educate children be who have come into our state for no other reason than they've been brought there by no fault of their own, i don't think you have a heart. >> i was probably a bit overpassionate by using that word and it was inappropriate. >> brian: so there he is. the mistake he made, he admits it now. >> had he attacked conservatives and here is the issue behind it. for their entire life, conservatives chained liberals accused them of having no heart and then a conservative says the same thing because you disagree? they felt that as a personal shot. in the dial section we did for fox, that was the single worst debate sound of the entire election because they felt attacked by a candidate who many of them supported. >> brian: you also say it will stay out there until somebody else makes be the major mistake. >> but what he did was he apologized for it. you always admit your mistakes to try to move on.

>> brian: governor christie said i've said over and over again, i'm not running. how can he possibly say i am running, the "new york post" says he's considering. >> all you have to say is nobody, nobody is ever qualified to hold the most difficult job on the face of the earth. i only hope that if i were elected, i would deserve that position. that makes fun of barak obama claiming that he was qualified and chris christie ran a state and what did barak obama run? a little -- i don't know what you would call it. law review. thank you for that. >> brian: law review, or community organizer, but he wasn'ten even in charge of that, but you think chris christie could come out and say i'm running and the credibility wouldn't be an issue? >> it's not an issue and the reason why is because he's got a middle class philosophy and blue collar language and that's exactly what the american people want to hear. that combination of conservative ideology with a very -- says

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by the way, that's lower than expected. you're right, gretchen. the white house is probably maybe even come to the podium during one of jay carney's press conferences -- >> brian: take a bow? >> you're right. >> steve: 200,000 maybe. but you're still on the vernal of 400,000. >> you look at the four-week moving average to get an indication of what will happen on the big number, unemployment number that comes up the first friday of every month, a week from tomorrow, it's still running in excess of 400. it will be 410,000, which means in a week and day, we'll probably still see elevated unemployment rate above 9.1, which is extremely elevated. >> gretchen: let's talk about something that the former office of management and budget director has written in the new republic. basically saying that he thinks we need less democracy, not more than that. >> brian: here is the quote, to solve the serious problems facing our country, we need to

minimize the harm from legislative inertia by relying on policies and decommissioning commissions. in other words, radical as it sounds, we need to counter the gridlock of our political institutions by making them less dramatic. >> not only that, the very same day, governor purdue from north carolina said you know what? those pesky reelection campaigns that we have to deal with every couple of years, by the way, she's up for reelection this cycle -- she said, if we only didn't have to worry about reelections. we could focus on job creation, it would make be things a lot better. the problem is, here is the constitution, article 1 of the constitution says, yeah, we have to reelect congress every two years, be senate every four years. >> gretchen: i think what she said was not to have elections. not to have -- >> steve: suspend them. >> gretchen: but that is different than just saying people shouldn't campaign for reelection be. >> what it is is the democrats walking back on the process.

if you don't -- i heard you with the judge this morning, 100% right, it may be tedious and slow, but it is in our constitution. it's what we should live by. not walk back on democracy. they want to do that to progress their progressive -- >> brian: did you take that from the judge? >> it's my own copy. >> steve: if what peter o be rzag has suggested in his op ed were to come true, then right now the administration could just say, be we need to raise taxes -- >> absolutely. we would move towards a more dictatorial society, economy, everything government. we don't want. wet like the current republic that we have. >> steve: democracy? >> republic. >> brian: what's coming up on "the five" today? >> democratic republic. you know what story i love, besides the fact that boston is eliminated, besides that, be that football player.

that kid, that 11-year-old is so compelling. who is on the side of let him score more? >> gretchen: me. >> i agree 100%. >> gretchen: that's the american dream. >> be you know what yours is, socialism. if he scores too much, let's let someone else score some. >> brian: you have not watched an eight-year-old football game. >> gretchen: or somebody gets a straight a's, let's take some away. >> what is happening? you have a team or a classroom full of mediocre kids. >> brian: the kid isn't told to sit. just don't run the ball. >> gretchen: what does that do to his psyche in life? the american dream is to make the most of your abilities that god has given be you. at least that's what my parents taught. >> brian: the problem is if the coaches could say, we're up 24-0, let's sit the kid, no problem. but there are these coaches that will put the score up to 6 o be

to nothing. >> gretchen: now to some other stories making news right now. a senior al-qaeda commander who served as osama bin laden's body guard back on the streets while pakinstani officials released had him from jail. u.s. intelligence sources say that he was the security coordinator for bin laden's black guard. pakinstani officials say guess what? they couldn't prove that and he's in poor health. >> steve: shocking story out of iran. a pastor could be executed as early as today because he refuses to renounce his christian faith. he has islamic ancestry, but has never been a practicing muslim. but the court says too bad. he must recant his faith in jesus christ. human rights say over if the death sentence is overturned, it's unlikely he will be released from prison. >> brian: looks like new york

governorrage drew cuomo may get the state's second largest union to take a pay cut. how? he sent outlay-off notices to 3500 union members. the union leadership is urging members now to take the deal and save their jobs. on the table? no raise for the next three years and 2% increase in the final years of the deal, but cuomo guarantees they have a job. members would also have to pay more for health insurance. >> steve: they voted that down. >> gretchen: check out this incredible view from the international space station. you're looking at rare footage of the aurora, or southern be lights, increased in solar activity putting on a spectacular display. this time lapsed footage shot as the station passed over the indian ocean. gorgeous. >> steve: absolutely. all right. meanwhile, let's take a look at the weather and let's start by looking at the washington monument. 555 tall. i don't know if emma, the woman looking at the side, be is going

to be on the side of that today with the rough weather expected. but yesterday we showed the images earlier, she was up there rappeling down and she had an ipad comparing each and every piece of limestone in that thing to make sure that it was okay. meanwhile, take a look at where it is raining. as you can see, all the way from portions of west virginia and virginia, right up through much of new england be at this hour, including the big northeastern cities. it's a soaker along portions of the gulf coast. they had a little rain activity overnight in portions of texas, but for the most part, it is gone. meanwhile, be current temperatures, a lot of 50s and 60s. the day ahead, it's going to be be hot in texas, humid throughout the northeast. right now we've got a daytime high of 74 in new york city and 92 in tampa where they're having

a good day with the race. >> what a copback in tampa. >> gretchen: now they're the wild card. he has no problem talking, but only 662 people want to hear what julian assange has to say. that story is next. >> steve: they're all at the "new york times." but you are going to want to hear what newt gingrich has to say. he just unveiled his brand-new contract for america be and he's right after the break with us. so stay with us. >> president obama keeping busy. president obama has invited the 1985 chicago bears to the white house. [ applause ] >> be he asked them to bring a 1985 game ball. their 1985 uniform, be and the 1985 economy looking good! you lost some weight. you noticed! these clothes are too big, so i'm donating them.

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>> brian: quick look at the headlines. the life story of wikileaks founder julian assange hardly a best seller in britain. his unauthorized autobiography women out. it was written by a ghost writer. a late night finish for baseball's wild card races. you won't forget it if you're a tampa fan. longoria rips a walk-off homerun in the 12th and caps a 7-run comeback to beat the yankees am and sending the rays to the playoffs as the american league wild card team, because in boston, jonathan with an epic collapse, he blows a lead in the 9th and the baltimore orioles look like they're going to the playoffs as they tell boston to go home. steve, don't go home. you talk to newt. >> steve: all right. 17 years ago, this past tuesday,

then house speaker newt gingrich introduced the contract with america. the landmark document outlined the republican party's goals and is credited with leading the gop to a congressional takeover. today newt gingrich is releasing a 21st century version of the 1994 proposal, a revised plan he says is a road map for getting the country back on track and newt gingrich, who is running for president, joins us right now from my home state of iowa. and the capital city of des moines, good morning to you, mr. speaker. >> be good to be with you. >> steve: great to have you. i understand what you're going to do later today is unveil this had 21en century contract with america and sop of the things you're doing is you're going to give people new choices, new choices on how to buy health insurance, how toay your income taxes, be save for retirement. right? >> yeah. i think that part of the solution for america is to get away from a one size fits all

bureaucratically defined government dominated by washington and give the american people the right to have a series of choices that they may prefer that let's them pick what's better for them. not what some bureaucrat thinks is better for them. in addition, i think that the problems we're faced with, whether it's repealing obamacare, creating jobs, developing american energy, all of these things need to be dealt with in a much more aggressive and much more comprehensive way. people who want to can go to newt.org after 2:00 o'clock be today and they'll see all of the details of this new 21st century contract with america be, which is much bigger and much bolder than what i did in 1994 or what reagan did in 1980. the reason is simple. we're in much more trouble today than we were back in 1994 or 1980. we need much bigger solutions than we needed back then. >> steve: mr. speaker, be the other day you were here in the studio and we were talking a little about herman cain. he's got some traction in the polls. we're going to put up the latest

die ma'amic poll and you currently in double digit, in fourth place. herman cain has got a lot of traction with his 999 plan. as i understand, one of the things you're going to suggest is two different income tax systems. people can either stick with the current income be system or a flat tax. how would that work? >> be i can't go along with the idea of a federal sales tax be when they have income tax. so we've taken a different approach. i am focused on the idea that you should have the right to choose. rhode island is experimenting with this. number of countries in europe have done this. so you can either keep the current complex code, all the paperwork, all the complexities, or you can have a single page, here is how much you earned. here is what your tax is. and you get to decide which is better for you. it's designed to be revenue had neutral. something which steve forbes has developed over the last ten years. i think it's worth the american people looking at.

i think it's an absolutely -- it would had help simplify the system. we also outline a series of dramatic be tax cuts to help get jobs created once again. we outline the steps we need to take to bring the budget back be into balance, including the largest reform of the federal government since the 1 # -- 880s and a new approach on be brain science which with alzheimer's, autism, parkinson's and a range of other thing, we think would have an enormous impact both on the lives the american people, but also on federal budgets and private budgets over the next 20 or 30 years. i think the contract is going to be a very comprehensive document that allows people to see not only what a gingrich administration will be like, but a scale of what you should be measuring both the president and other candidates against because the united states has got to do a lot of work to get back on the right track to be the most prosperous and the strongest and the safest country in the world. >> steve: some of the themes you talk about, as you lay it out in des moines later on today, some

of the themes are less taxes for people to pay, as you said right there, but a smaller government because the way things are going right now, mr. speaker, we're headed for a much bigger government. >> well, that's why when i outline the concept of a 21st century contract with america, i emphasize that i don't ask people to be for me. that means they go home and say i hope newt fixes it. i ask people to be be with me. i think it's possible be that you could be on a track in the very near future to smaller government, less power in washington, dramatically more job creation, and greater freedom of choice for the american people. and that's a future worth fighting for and it's a future worth campaigning for over the next year. >> steve: all right. very good. we'll be watching. newt gingrich joining us live from iowa. thank you for joining us with a little preview. >> thank you. >> steve: all right. up next, is dr. conrad murray

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>> gretchen: welcome back. then manslaughter trial of michael jackson's doctor continued yesterday with startling testimony. jackson's former assistant saying dr. murray called him the night the pop star died, but that the doctor didn't even raise a red flag. >> he said, mr. jackson had had

a bad reaction. i don't know be -- when i hear someone bad reaction, i don't think anything fatal. >> gretchen: questions have also come up about the doctor trying to deal with other things. >> brian: that's true. listen. >> he said that there is some cream in michael's room or house, i believe room, that he wouldn't want the world to know about. and he requested that i or someone give him a ride back to the house to get it, so the world wouldn't know about the cream. >> brian: fox news legal analyst, peter johnson, jr., here to give us a recap. the secret is out now, peter. >> interesting testimony again yesterday. this really has become the new casey anthony trial in some ways. lot of interest across the country in terms of what's going on in this case. we heard testimony that was actually, i think, useful for dr. murray that he had requested a so-called cpr machine and a second doctor when he wasn't

available. i guess what they're referring to is cpr machine, an automatic defibrillator that we see in a lot of public and private institutions across america in order to shock someone back to life. one of the charges against him is he didn't have the proper monitoring or resuscitation equipment available for michael in terms of had his treatment. so he asked the concert promoters who were paying his salary, $150,000 a month, never actually paid, for such equipment and it wasn't provided. >> gretchen: the interesting thing, because it's so convoluted, the idea that you need a cpr machine because you're providing a legal drug for somebody. >> you're absolutely right. >> gretchen: so wait a minute, where do you even start? >> it's something that's not called f, it shouldn't be given under these circumstances, so in the event something happens for what i'm doing which is wrong to begin with, i need this stuff. >> brian: you saw the second sound bite. there is allegations there, according to that gentleman, that he was -- they were trying to hide something that could be embarrassing and criminal

perhaps. >> right. and the narrative -- yesterday in the prosecution's case was that the doctor was trying to hide michael jackson's health condition before his death. he had been seeing a dr. klein, allegedly for demerol injections for several weeks, although there was none in his blood at the time of autopsy, and that he was hiding the circumstances of the death at the time of the death. did he really understand how to do cpr? he asked one of the jackson staff members, do you know how to do cpr? then this effort to go back to michael jackson's house with one of his staff, which was turned down. they refused to drive him back. it's interesting, though. we see the staff, we see the concert promoters testifying. we see the lawyers testifying about what the negotiations were. there seems to be, based on this case, be this is the time to blame the death on one person and that one person be in this case be is dr. murray.

there could have been, i think, tougher cross-examination 'cause i watched several hours of this trial yesterday of some of these witnesses about how much they really knew before and what they were doing. >> gretchen: too bad inbe abling is not a crime, just yet. peter johnson, jr., stick around, because we'll be back in two minutes am

>> steve: take a look at this. it gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, taking a plunge. a bridal party fell into sugar loaf lake in michigan, even the bride was knee deep in water. they were taking pictures by the lake when kaboom, they all fell in. >> gretchen: all right. log on for our after the show show because we're going to be talking more about the michael jackson case with peter johnson, jr. have a great day, everyone.