i'm jon scott jamaican i'm jaime colby in for jenna. what an honor to be here for our 15th year today. we're in the newsroom "happening now," there are breaking developments in a search nor a missing baby girl in kansas city, missouri. her visibly anguished parents, we've seen them jeremy irwin and deborah bradley they've appeared before the cameras pleading for their baby's return. they are set to speak to the media today. the couple has stopped talking to detectives. >> first and foremost it's important for me to stress that we are continuing and will continue to track down leads as we get them, whether we develop them or whether they come from the tips hotline. but earlier the mother and father decided to quit cooperating with the police, but our door is always open.

jon: it's a strange case and the parents of baby lis ardenying that claim that they've stopped cooperating with police. deborah bradley said detectives told her she failed a lie detector test and accused her of having something to do with her baby's disappearance from the start. >> when they first questioned me, it turned to into, you did it, and you put the picture down on the table, and they said, look at your baby, and do it for her, and just tell everybody where she is so she can come home. i kept saying, i don't know, i don't know, i don't know, and eleven hours of it. jon: it's a strange case. steve brown has the latest for us from chicago. i guess, steve that some of the relatives are speaking out now as well. >> reporter: yeah they are insisting that the police have it wrong in this particular

case. ashley irwin who happens to be little lisa irwin's aunt is essentially saying the same thing the parents are saying of this missing 10month-old. what the police are saying now is not true. >> if congress does something i can't run against a do nothing congress. >> reporter: quite clearly that was the president and that is not the right sound for this particular story. essentially what she is saying is that they are cooperating. that they do have u know, a very keen interest in assisting police, but that the police have it wrong here, jon, when they say that the family is not cooperating. apparently there was at some point during the tuesday questioning something of a flash point, if you will in regards to the interview in which it broke down. back to you. jon: we are glad your lights are on too. i know i've covered a lot of these missing persons cases,

it's pretty rare that the cops come out and say the family is not cooperating. its something of a gamble isn't it? >> reporter: it certainly is. here is the deal, as soon as we in the media hear that the police say, hey the parents aren't cooperating, what do we in turn do? we go to the parents and say, hey, the police say you're not cooperating. there is a certain amount of pressure that quite frankly just by the shear volume of questions about it that this 4 couple will be under simply because the police are saying this. now, if the police in this particular case do suspect the parents and they haven't said so, they have not said so, but if they do and they put the pressure on the parents and the child turns up later they'll be answering a lot of really sharp questions. they are taking a look at phone records. they are talking about the missing cell phones. those records will be available to the police even if the cell phones are not. they will check the house as well to find out if there was phone call activity monday night into tuesday morning. there are a lot of things the

police can do. this is something of a calculated risk. when you start saying as a police agency, they are not cooperating, th-s tha that means you are turning up the pressure on that couple. jon: hope they find baby lis a. sthapbgs, steve jamaican there are new job numbers. the economy added 103,000 jobs in september. it may be more than analysts expected, at least some. but it's not enough to lower the unemployment rate which is stuck at 9.1%. at the same time what about those americans who stopped looking for full time work, they've had to set he will for part time jobs. that is hat 16.5%. that is up from 16.2 just a month ago. wendell tkpwhroeler standing by live at the white house. any reaction yet. >> reporter: a bit jaime. the jobs number as you say bigger than most economists are were expected. it left the unemployment right

at 9.1% for the third month in a row. and no one here is satisfied about it. the white house says it shows the need for the president's jobs bill as an insurance policy against a double-dip recession. the new jobs are not new at all. they are in fact verizon workers who were on strike when the august figures were compiled. house speaker john boehner says these sad thumbs show that more washington spending, threats of higher taxes on small business and excessive government regulations don't create a healthy environment for job growth. it underscores the urgency for both parties to find common ground for common-sense solutions for job creation. that common ground not likely to be found in the jobs act that president obama has been plea moating in campaign events across the country. republicans say it's more of a campaign tool than a practical plan. president obama made clear in a news conference yesterday he

will use it as a pam cane tool if republicans don't give it to him to sign. >> i can't run against a do nothing wrong. if congress does nothing then it's not a matter of me running against him, i think the person american people will run them out of town, because they are frustrated and they know we need to do something big. >> reporter: republicans have endorsed some of the tax law changes in the bill but they've opposed most of the spending aimed at rehiring laid off teachers, police, firefighters and construction workers. jaime jamaican we know all those folks hard hit. wendell goler live at the white house. thank you. bill. jon: mr. obama calling on congress to pass his jobs plan which he says will spark hiring. jean sperling is the top white house economic adviser, director of the national economic council as well. i spoke with him and asked him if he could see any real hiring starting soon given all the

uncertainty in this market in this country as well as a broad. >> this i think there is no question there is some uncertainty that is beyond our control. we are certainly trying to influence the outcome of the situation in europe, but the situation we can control most is what we do in the united states. and if we could pass both a strong american jobs act and then also insure that we have a long term fiscal discipline plan that brings our debt down in the long run, the communication of those two measures would have a very pow irfull impact on col confidence. i think for many small businesses, for many businesses if they started to see, if they saw the american jobs act pass, if they knew there was going to be a strong injection of demand, of customers, if they knew that the average person instead of seeing their payroll taxes rise a thousand dollars next year were going to get a 1,500-dollar

cut next year, yes, that would improve their pro prospects for growth, for hiring and it would have a strong impact. jon: we spent $887 billion in the first stimulus office. the best results came in the third quarter of 2010 when it helped create somewhere between two on the low-end, 2 million and 5.2 million jobs on the high-end. are you satisfied with that first stimulus program? and do you really think this american jobs act proposal is going to work? >> absolutely. of course we'd like things to be stronger now but the real question for policy is we now know that when the president came into office the six months, the end of 2008, the beginning of 2009 before the recovery act took hold was the worst. let me repeat the worst six months our economy has performed since the great depression.

other than when we were demobilizing after world war ii. that is how deep the hole was. by the end of that year our economy was growing again. that didn't happen my accident, it happened because we took strong and bold action. and when you do that you know that other things could happen, so you have to take strong action, also just to insure against the risk beyond your control. just to be very clear, we have many of the top forecasters are projecting the next year growth could be below 2%, below 2%, when we already have 9% unemployment. that is just unacceptable. we have to take action. what i would say to anyone who does not support the american jobs act is, where is your plan that these top forecasters like mood dees would forecast as creating up to 2 million jobs. if there is a better plan that

the top forecasters like hoodies would forecast this 1.3 to 1.9 million jobs created let's see it. what we saw today, those people saying in "the new york times" that the republican plan would have no impact on jobs. can we really afford to not have any action when we have this type of risk to our -- to this recovery taking hold? jon: jean sperling, thank you. jamaican a train carrying dangerous chemicals derails before catching fires. it forces villages to evacuate. what they are saying now. jon: it is every scuba driver's nightmare, you surface and you find yourself with no boat in waters with sharks. jamaican new insights into a private man who changed our world. the book that steve jobs was

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jaime: welcome back, everyone everyone, with the death of steve jobs this week would be hard to find anyone who wouldn't agree that the world has lost a visionary business leader. he revolutionized the way we all use technology. what happens to apple without steve jobs. here now we have shboni joshi from the knocks business network. does anyone have his vision? >> reporter: we can't make any comparisons to steve jobs. he was a cultural icon, a legend. he was the visionary behind apple. there is no reason to believe we won't still get blockbuster hits out of this iconic company. he did leave the company with a road map in place. we are still expecting to get

everything we thought we would get with steve jobs. we will get the ipad 3, the ipad 5, and a television set. save your paychecks you'll still be spending a lot of money at the company. jaime: it came in at a price that a lot of people can get involved. it still has so much enthusiasm. steve jobs we'll learn more about him when his autoby og tpwraf fee comes out. do you have any sense of what we will learn? >> reporter: he tried to keep his life out of the spotlight. he was very, very private. a new tell all book that is coming out later on this month is going to reveal a lot more about steve jobs. he says and told the person who penned the book the reason he wanted to do it was to tell his kids a little bit about himself. he went so far as to say i wasn't always there for them and i wanted them to know why and to understand what i did. he is survived by four children from two different marriages. we are ear learning and we will learn a lot more about the

personal side of steve jobs. jaime: we'll never forget him. i have to give my personal thoughts for lorrene. wonderful children, a one full guy. how shall the stocks doing. >> reporter: he really created a stand alone company and we'll certainly feel his loss but the company will remain a powerhouse. jon: the worldwide reaction to the death of steve jobs continues to come in. lots of celebrities speaking out via twitter. alec baldwin tweets. sad about steve jobs, on part with carnegie. thanks for all the fun and amazing ways you made our lives better. howard stearn saying steve jobs was a true original, so sad, a tremendous loss. jaime's tpaeurts this from kim

kardashian, wow steve jobs died, he was a brilliant man. danny devito. steve jobs, miss you from the planet. have you with me every day on earth. really an amazing guy. quite a loss. jaime: sarah palin how about her, she is out of the presidential race but she says she doesn't need a title to make a difference in our country. how will her influence be felt in the presidential election in we are going to take a look at that. and ten years later afghanistan, we're speaking to the troops on the ground. can we win this long war a tech aid after it began? you'll hear a perspective you may never have heard before from a shoulder who spent a lot of time with the afghan troops shall that's right he embedded with them t them. he'll weigh in next.

jon: ten years ago today u.s. warplanes began pummeling afghanistan. the goal was to reutd country of the al-qaida network that launched the 9/11 attacks here on american soil, and force the taliban government from pow ir. now u.s. forces are working with the afghans to try to secure that country, ten years in how has the mission changed? dominique d-natali is streaming live for us from kabul where he has more on what he's hearing from our troops. dominic. >> reporter: the mission has changed but it could be a full three years before the afghans are fully able to lead the security mission here all on their own. we'll see whether they actually get to do that. we spoke to u.s. troops on the front line in eastern afghanistan this week that has some faith saying they were getting up to speed as quickly as possible. we are still fighting a war here

and preventing insurgents from coming into afghanistan. we caught up with some of the soldiers on the front line. >> it's not just about going out and killing the bad guys, it's more going out and changing how people feel about everyone where else in the world. >> it does event mean the war stops just because osama bin laden is dead. >> it's been a long war. we've used a lot of resources here. we are deaf net lee making progress. >> we are more helping the country out. >> this country has been at worst for hundreds of years, and us being here, yeah, we're doing a good job, a better job than others but it's just, i mean history is always going to repeat itself here. >> reporter: not a single soldier either at infant tree level or command develop could say exactly when u.s. soldiers will be nine lee out of afghanistan. one young soldier who was just in the fifth grade when the 9/11 attacks happened says he doesn't think that it will be another

ten years, he generally feels there is progress and he and his colleagues have the momentum to have them to make it happen. optimistic even though the fight tactically goes on here. jon: so many of those troops were little boys really when this war began. dominique d-natali thank you. jaime: despite the critics who say this war cannot be won my next guest says, think again, we can win in against. major fernando luhan is a special army forces officer and spent a lot of time embedded with afghan army. i understand you even wore the uniform. thank you for your service. >> it's great to be back in america. >> it's great to have you home. you were there a longtime. what did you learn from being with those troops in that way? >> well, i'll tell you, i was lucky enough to be involved with a couple new initiatives that they started up.

one of them was called the afghan hands program, a new way of thinking here. they took about 200, 300 officers, trained us and told us to spend the next three to five years rotating back and forth between afghanistan and the united states so that we would become really institutional experts and get to know the culture and the language: my particular job was part of the counter insurgency advisory team. we were general pa trace' eyes out on the ground. our role was to embed with afghan units. we wore the uniforms, we spoke dari or pastu. after spending time, the 14 months with all these different units across kandahar and hell monday some of the worst areas in afghanistan i was really encouraged by what i saw out there. while they are still developing and it's been obviously a long, tough fight there is a fundamental will will prevail within the afghans.

there is this whole new young generation of afghan leaders that they get it, they are committed. beefee been fighting along tied them for seven, eight, nine years. the constant exposure and mentor ship is tart starting to payoff and you can see it in the way they do their missions. jaime: i've read what you've written about this. that the afghan people are optimistic about winning. they'll do it with us and then when we leave they'll do it without us. the taliban has become so desperate in the eyes of afghans they've gone after children to recruit them into the taliban, but now they know the taliban when we'll start to leave. what is the impact from your point of view on president obama and the administration announcing dates? >> okay, so from our perspective actually the current policy as we see it actually works out and works to our favor in a lot of ways that maybe isn't obvious to the people at home. that's why i'm so happy to be here to be able to explain some

of these things to people who have not spent their time in counter insurgent sees like this. while there is a lot of benefit to having a lot more boots on the ground and having resources where we can push into areas where we haven't been before, where we can expand our security outwards, there is a downside. if you have so many troops on the ground, you say, we'll take the lead, and we won't focus as much as we need to on their development. small can be beautiful in this kind of environment. as you get smaller you can't really do it alone any more. it's a forcing function. it's a catalyst to encourage american coalition forces to cooperate and work through the afghans so that they can truly take the lead. i'm actually optimistic about that and looking forward to the communities. i'm going back next year to do the same job again and i think there is a lot of committed people that will be on board with it. jaime: that is have a very interesting job that you have. i'm glad that we know about it now. quickly before i let you know. what is the morale of our troops, we worry about them

every day. >> reporter: it's been a long, tough fight. this was my for the deployment. by no means am i one of the leading guys out there. i'm lucky to be working alongside some true american heros. some of these guys are on their 7th, 8th, 9th tours. these guys are absolute heroes and committed and we're going to keep going back until the job is done. jaime: major fernando luhan good to hear that and to learn that the afghan troops are coming along too. we have invested a lot of time and effort. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. jaime: take care. jon: spending time around any of our troops is very positive. jaime: always a privilege. jon: it sure is. a real life nightmare at sea. a couple of scuba divers surface and find themselves left behind in open water, and, yes, there were sharks in the vicinity, in the movie no one survived. we will talk to one driver who lived through a harrowing

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>> right now the gop field may very well be set for the presidential race of 2012, but how about sarah palin, what's next for her? is the popular republican just announced this week she's not running, but she is also not exiting the national stage. paul gigot, editorial page editor from the "wall street journal" joins me now. good to see you. >> good to see you, jamie. jamie: what's next for her now?

>> she could play a role in, say, look to her supporters this is the candidate i really support. she could get behind certain issues, and she could particularly help somebody like mitt romney who's considered to be a moderate centrist if as a conservative she endorsed him. not that that'll happen, but it could help. jamie: how much do you think that's worth as compared to, say, a donald trump saying this is my candidate? >> i don't think donald trump has a real following outside of the media spotlight. she has, i think, a much greater grassroots following within the party. jamie: let's talk about these protests that are expanding. >> sure. jamie: a lot being written that the democrats want to claim this is their tea party. >> right. jamie: true or false? >> the democrats would like to think it's their tea party, it's not there yet. this started as a band of students out of work, that sort of thing. it's gaining more traction because the liberal media has gotten behind it and because of

the unions in particular are starting to push and trying to say this is a sign of broader popular discontent, but i don't think it's anywhere close at the level of grassroots right now to what the tea party was in 2009 and 2010. jamie: is this an acorn moment? >> to some extent, yes. groups like that, you know, sort of groups that get, that are on the left, that are perpetual organizers that support this. and that's where you're seeing the unions come in, particularly some of the new york unions here in manhattan begin to push this. and that gives it organization, it gives it some money, it gives it some staying power. but whether or not it gives it any legitimate long-term grass roots impact is another story. on that i think we have to bait and see -- wait and see. jamie: what's your sense of what's going on with the china currency bill and the action that's being taken by the democrats in the senate? >> i think they're looking for political cover for the fact that they're going to have votes on these three trade bills on

panama, career and colombia, and the unions hate those bills so the democrats are saying, okay, mr. president, we'll hold a vote, but you have to allow us to have a vote on this, and don't trash it even though it's been out there since 2005. so they're going to get a vote on that, and can it'll probably pass the senate because republicans don't want to stand in the way of it either. t the house that'll have the problem getting through because john boehner, the speaker, this week says he thinks it's a dangerous bill, and he doesn't want to move it in the house right now. james james dangerous, that's a serious word. >> it is, and i think he's worried about the potential back and fort if we impose tariffs on china, do other nations get in the game? this is something you don't want to do particularly with the economy so weak. jamie: and it is. >> it sure is. jamie: let's hope for a better day when we watch the close. i do work the weekend, so i do watch your show all the time. it is on the fox news channel,

"the journal editorial report," 2 p.m. eastern. we'll be there. and also you know our own jon scott, he does double duty too. he hosts "fox news watch," 2:30. he and his panel will look at the media coverage of all this week's top stories, so be there. jon? jon: don't forget you. jamie: we'll never forget you. jon thanks, jamie. a surreal nightmare portray inside the film, "open water." two scuba divers left behind by their charter boat left in shark-infested divers. if you've seen that movie, you know that neither diver made it home alive. well, now, it seems to have happened again. a couple of tourists off key biscayne, florida, and you guessed it, the boat that took them out there left them behind. the water all around them filled with sharks. with conditions getting worse, with nightfall approaching, the crew of a passing yacht spotted them in time to rescue them.

with us now, the captain who rescued the two scuba kivers and one of those divers, paul klein. paul, you were on a business trip to miami, you're a cube what diver -- scuba diver. you figured you'd get a little diving in, and you got on this charter boat, they take you out. what happened when you came to the surface? >> well, so we came to the surface on time, we had an hour dive, 55 minutes later we came up and looked around and no boat. so we definitely, you know, made the 360 around a few times to make sure we didn't somehow miss it, but there was nothing, you know, within any range to see. jon: you say "we," you were with a dive buddy? >> i was. we had met that morning at the dive shop. it was a gentleman who was here from spain, and his english was far better than my spanish. so we met each other that morning and decided since we were both on our own, we'd pair up for the dive. jon: so you come up to the

surface, the boat is gone. what did you think? >> you know, at first it was just disbrief,. >> one of the -- disbelief, and one of the things that comes to mind quickly is the movie, "open water," so you think about that and what could have happened. we decided there must have been an emergency onboard and they took somebody back, but as time went on, it was pretty clear they weren't coming back. jon: so you made it to abu by. how far a swim was that? >> well, we actually didn't see it at first, and the buoy was actually about half the size of a basketball. it was a small, um, sigh ro foam -- sty ro foam, and i'm told it's to signal where a lobster trap is. but it was stationer in, so we happened to find that, swam over to it so that way we'd be in one place and, again, we assumed someone was coming to look for us soon, you know, we'd be where we started. >> so that's where the captain comes in. captain, you were sailing back from the keys, as i understand

it. how did you happen to spot these two divers in the water? that's not easy to do. >> well, we were cruising very close to them, and that's how we spot them. if we would have been just a few hundred yards away, we would have never seen them. jon: and i guess they were doing something to attract attention, huh? >> yeah. they were waving their equipment, so they had a red tube equipment, so we spotted them because they had that red tube moving around. jon: the seas we see behind you now look pretty calm, but i guess it was getting nasty and rough out there that day, huh? >> that's correct. yeah, the wind was picking up, the sea's conditions were getting worse, and it was getting choppy on the yacht itself, so it must have been very uncompatible in the water. jon: paul, if captain hadn't come along, what would have happened? >> well, by the time they picked us up, by the time we got to the dock, it was pitch black, so that was really our last chance to not spend the night in the

water. jon: wow. >> so what would have happened then is sort of anybody's guess. jon: well, i'm glad, i'm glad he made it, i'm sure you're glad he made it, and we're glad to be able to talk to you and bring a happy ending to this story. thanks very much, paul klein, captain, we appreciate it. >> thank you. jon: breaking developments in the manslaughter trial of michael jackson's doctor, conrad murray. a police interview never before played in public, what it reveals about the king of pop's final moments. plus, amazing images of mother nature's fury up close. next, the storm chasers who brave deadly storms, sometimes going inside to bring them to us. >> go, go, go! >> right there, guys. watch it, right here! >> yeah, i know, i know. >> popped on the road right in front of us. right in front of us, guys, right here. right in front of us. tornado right in front of us! ♪ crispy flakes calling my name ♪ ♪ yaaaaaaay!

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jamie: fox news alert, an interesting case dealing with an alabama immigration law that allows authorities to check the immigration status of folks when they stop them, even children in schools. parts of this law were upheld, and now the justice department wants a rereview of that. interesting to note that in alabama that state's hispanic population grew by 145%, that's over the past decade, so there are very strong feelings on both sides of the issue, and now the federal government is asking that an appeals court halt those portions of the alabama immigration law that were previously upheld. we'll follow it for you, keep it here on fox. >> oh, man, that is huge! >> tuscaloosa got hit. [bleep] there's tornadoes everywhere, there's damage everywhere, trees down across the road, power lines down, we're in the middle of an outbreak, and all we know is it's mass chaos. jon: that is a clip from the

latest season of "storm chasers" when tuscaloosa took a direct hit from a massive tornado. the death toll is still rising from that storm and, obviously, still so much destruction yet on the cleaned up. joining us now, a videographer on that storm chaser team. you've been doing this a while, chasing badwet -- bad weather of all kinds. >> yeah, for about ten years now. jon: anything like that before? >> never. jon: you guys obviously follow the weather reports, you do the opposite of what most people do. most people hear about storms coming, and they either want to get out of the way or at least get to shelter. you go right into these things. >> yeah. we have a tornado-proof tank somewhat, you know, it's got protective coating on it, external roll cage, it's kind of like a tornado tank. so we try to get in there, we're doing science at the same time and shooting video trying to

document as much as possible. jon: what does your insurance company think about this? >> it's tough to get, but we're working on it right now. [laughter] jon: it's, but it, i mean, the adrenaline rush has got to be tremendous when you see those radar signatures coming back and you know what's likely coming out of the sky, right? >> yeah, adrenaline's pumping, and the video never does it justice, the sights, the smells, the sound of it -- jon: everybody says it sounds like a freight train. >> it does, it sounds like a jet engine, waterfall. it's pretty nuts. you should come out with us next year. jon: i'm happy to do that, yeah. especially if you put me in that tornado-proof tank. >> you'll be safe. jon: the storm system that hit tuscaloosa, i mean, really unprecedented in terms of size and scope. >> yeah. there was over 200 tornadoes that day, three ef5s which is the most, you know, in u.s. history, every 300 fatalities, um, and the tornadoes were on

the ground for, like, almost up to 200 miles. jon: you see some amazing things after those storms roll through. what's the most memorable picture in your mind? >> just the complete devastation. i mean, we got to tuscaloosa, and everything is just completely wiped off, you know? like all foundations are clear, people are out of their homes just kind of walking around. you try to help out and do the best you can. jon: you know, my dad always told me for a career you've got to do what you love. you've found a career that -- >> absolutely. i think if you do what you love, you never really work a day in your life. jon: but there can't be too many people who want to do what you do. you've got a wide open field, interesting niche there, huh? >> yeah, i've got job security. jon: well, good for you. we will continue to watch. what's your next big goal? you don't just do tornadoes, your working all winter long, right? >> yeah. we chase hurricanes, we go to south america and chase down in argentina in the winter time. we have a fall season coming, so

we're gearing up for that. jon: we'll be watching on discovery channel. >> 10:00 on sundays. jon: chris, thanks. >> thank you. jon: there's a lot more amazing footage of chris and his team on the discovery channel 10 p.m. eastern time sunday night. jamie: and, jon, a huge, fiery crash. the flames were shooting right into the air, and it forced hundreds from their home. now the national transportation safety board is sending a team of investigators to that scene, the very latest and some more dramatic video we haven't shown you. that's coming up. and can you believe it? today fox news channel celebrating 15 years on the air. we thank you for picking us number one -- making us number one. ♪ [ male announcer ] you love the taste of 2% milk.

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jon: this is a very big day here at fox news channel marking 15 years on the air. bill hemmer hosts the celebration with a look back at what made us number one, fair and balanced reporting and a couple of laughs along the way. >> everybody here was technically getting paid less, working more, doing more but almost like they were all stockholders. are these people really this motivating? >> was anyone watch anything october of 1996? >> no, it was like doing television in a vacuum. we couldn't even watch it here in manhattan because there was the argument with the cable company that had manhattan wired. >> right or wrong? >> i think we need to call mr. murdoch. >> i don't know, do i have that on my visa limit? [laughter] jon: there's more of that good stuff. you can catch bill hemmer hosting the entire special, our first 15 years condensed into one very entertaining hour tonight, 10:00 eastern time.

jamie: fox news alert, the very latest on a fiery train derailment that's forced hundreds of people from their homes in illinois, and harris faulkner's at the breaking news desk with more. what's the latest? >> reporter: i've just gotten off the phone with first responders in northern illinois, it's a small town, and they've it told me that most of the southern end of town has been evacuated. they feel like they've been able to get this fire under control, but there are six cars that are still raging at this time, 20 cars total i'm told derailed from those tracks in this northern part of illinois sending people running, literally, because they could hear the explosions. it was loaded, many of the cars loaded with alcohol and not the kind you drink. so now they're letting it one, and that puts off fumes, but they're letting it burn somewhat and making decisions about how much of this fire they'll try to put out. they've got 14 different fire departments that have responded and a hazmat materials team

that's there on site right now. those people remain out of their homes, some 800 residents. the ottawa fire department was in the lead on all of this but now, like i just mentioned, there are very many local fire departments that have gotten all of their gear as part of this as well. the total of this train 131 cars. they still don't know why part of the train went off the tracks, the investigation is underway. back to you. jamie: harris faulkner at the breaking news desk, thank you. jon? jon: well, more than 100,000 jobs added last month according to figures, but we are still far from a healthy economy. the unemployment rate remains 9.1%. america is asking when are we going to see a real recovery begin? how can my family weather the storm? is we have a great panel on to answer your questions in the next hour. get those questions in to us. click on the america's asking tab, join our live chat. just go to foxnews.com/happeningnow. we're chatting with ya.

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hold a news conference, they demand an investigation into mr. holder and others for their role in operation fast and furious. the sheriffs saying this is not about partisan politics, it is a serious public safety issue. william la jeunesse is live in washington. >> reporter: that is the elephant in the room. half of the guns have been recovered. now, to date essentially we've attributed the death of one man, border agent brian terry, to those guns. the biggest fear, who are the next victims? and the fallout that will follow? the attorney general knows of additional crimes that have been committed with those guns, but congressional investigators tell me that the justice department is not sharing that information. this is the latest controversy, however, in the problem for holder because he was asked a direct question from congress and his answers seemed unequivocal. while the president says he still has confidence in his attorney general, some lawmakers

do not. yesterday one called on him to resign. >> we have listened to what he has said, we have seen the evidence, we have seen evidence that he at a minimum did not tell the truth to congress or at least was just ineffective in his research before he came to congress. >> it's not the original offense, it's the cover-up that causes so much problem, so the attorney general can clear this all up if it's an innocent explanation. >> reporter: now, this week the justice department tried to undermine republican criticism by comparing fast and furious to a similar operation during the bush administration called operation wide receiver. both occurred in arizona under the same atf officials, and both encouraged gun stores to illegally sell assault rifles to cartel buyers, and both limited agents' ability to arrest the suspects. however, according to a memo obtained by fox news the difference was agents here did

install tracking devices in many of those gun, they did use surveillance to track them and they worked, quote, hand in the hand with the mexican government to arrest the suspects as they crossed the border. problem was, jon, the devices did not work, the bad guys beat surveillance by driving in circles, and they had to refuel, and the mexican police never showed up. the result? one agent who's working this case now said of about 450 guns sold, 200 got away and in his words it, too, was a colossal failure. jon? is. jon: it sounds like a debacle. william, stay on it for us. thank you. jamie: new jobs numbers out today, the labor department reports a burst of hiring in september, at least that's what they're calling it because employers added 103,000 new jobs. it is about double what economists were expecting, but is it enough? well, it didn't change the national unemployment rate. that's holding steady at 9.1%. wendell goler live at the white house. any other insight, wendell, on the numbers and where it's going

to go from here? >> reporter: well, jamie, the number was better than most economists had expected, but it was far short of good because nearly half of it was verizon workers who happened to be on strike when the august number was counted. the white house says the september number shows the need for passing the president's jobs bill which republicans have largely written off as a campaign tool. the president says he will use it as a campaign tool if republicans block the bill. the white house believes there is strong public support for it. mr. obama's chief economic adviser says it could protect the u.s. from the impact of europe's even worse economic slowdown. >> that could make an enormous difference between whether this economy stalls or starts to gain momentum. and as you heard the president say yesterday, we should do this if for no other reason as an insurance policy against even the chance of a double dip recession. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner says the per siptly high unemployment rate shows

mr. obama's economic policies are failing n. a written statement, mr. boehner said, quote, today's report underscores the urgency for both parties to find common ground on common sense solutions to create a better environment for private sector job creation. republicans have signed on to some of the tax cuts in the american jobs act but not the 5% surcharge on millionaires that would be, that democrats want to use to pay for it. they've also rejected aid to state and local goths aimed at rehiring laid-off teachers, police and firefighters and programs to modernize schools and neighborhoods aimed at rehiring laid-off construction workers. jamie? jamie: wendell goarl live at the white house. thank you. jon: so we told you that nationwide the jobless rate is holding at 9.1%. 9.1%. guess what it is in the state of nebraska. less than half, 4.2 percent, less than half the national average. nebraska is one of the few states that has managed to

balance its budget every year during the recession, so what the heck are they doing right in nebraska? joining us now is the governor of that state, governor dave heinemann. what's the answer, governor? >> well, first of all, good morning and happy 15th anniversary. jon: hey, thank you. >> the answer is to provide certainty to the private sector. we modernized our economic incentive programs, we passed the largest tax relief package in the history of the state, we've controlled our spending, but we've invested in education and jobs. you have to have a laser-like focus on jobs. i was just in the western part of my state yesterday visiting a piping company that's expanded in the last year from 30 jobs to over 100. you can do it if you create a business-friendly environment in your state. that's what we need all across america. jon: well, how do you go about doing that? you talked about the largest tax leaf package, that's the argument underway in washington right now. are taxes too high, or do we need more of them? >> here's what i would suggest

for the federal government. you know, the president of the united states -- and i like him personally -- but he said pass their stimulus package a few years ago, and it would keep unemployment below 8%. jon: right. >> it failed. it didn't work. it's stuck at at 9.1%. he should issue an executive order saying we're going to have a two-year moratorium on federal regulations to create certainty in the private sector. he could follow that up by saying i'll work with the congress to suspend obamacare for two years or better yet repeal it. third, no new taxes on american businesses or american individuals. fourth, get federal spending under control. and let's be very clear about federal spending. they talk about a baseline, they say it's going to go up 8%, we're going to cut it 2%, and they say that's a 2% reduction. most americans, and i'll tell you nebraska yangs understand that's still a 6% increase. get federal spending you should control. jon: you know, one of the things that is notable in those federal

statistics, those unemployment statistics out today is that the number of state and local workers, local municipal workers who are filing for unemployment is going up. some of that stimulus money is going away, some of the people who were hired to do some of those government jobs are going away. how are you controlling that kind of thing in your state? >> well, we've been very, very clear we never allowed us to give -- and we never allowed our local and state governments to get into a position that we had to do that. we've always invested in state aid education, for example, so we could move forward. the key is not the public sector. you've got to create private sector jobs. that's what the american people want, and if you don't have a job right now, you're scared to death. and if you have one, you're afraid you're going to lose it. i know in my state the unemployment rate's 4.2%. every day i think about how can we create more jobs, how can i work with local businesses to help them expand, how can we recruit more businesses to nebraska? it works, the federal government ought to follow our example and

several other states in what they're doing. jon: and you've had a lot of people move to nebraska for that very reason, you've got jobs there. >> that's exactly right. for the last two years we've exceeded the national population growth, that's very unusual for a state our size. and it's because people are moving here for the jobs that we have. from technology to transportation, from insurance to agriculture to alternative energy it does make a difference, and we're keeping our young people here. that's critical to future growth. jon: well, my uncle ken farmed there for years and years and years, he still lives there, i still like to go visit him and the cousins in the nebraska. it's a great state. didn't know you were such an economic pour usa, but congratulations to you. governor dave heinemann of nebraska, a lot of people are going to want to pay attention to what you're doing there that's right. thank you, vir. >> thank you very much. jamie: new reaction in washington today, quite a bit of it, in fact, because there was a

procedural brawl in the senate. the democrats in a complicated rules change -- they changed it -- effectively silencing republicans on the floor last night, and doug mckelway's following the developments in washington. pretty unique way to go, huh, doug? >> reporter: i'll say, jamie. stripping the minority party, the republicans, of power. it began last night with republicans in effect trying to embarrass democrats by forcing a vote on the president's $447 billion jobs bill by tying it as an amendment to another bill dealing with china. republicans knew all the while that it would not pass because even the president's own party lacked the votes to do so. rather than suffer that indignation, senate majority leader harry reid offered a proposal which ultimately passed 51-48 that fundamentally changed the rules of the senate and effectively yanked key legislative power from republicans. the typically calm, collected minority leader mitch mcconnell seemed uncharacteristically shocked by

this move. >> this isn't the way it's always happened. this is not the way we always operate, and we did get things accomplished. not by trying to strangle everybody and shut everybody up, but by allowing the process to work. and when the senate gets tired of the process, 60 people shut it down, and you move to conclusion. that's how you move something ahead, not by preventing the voices. >> reporter: majority leader harry reid defended the tactic, though, here he is. >> mr. president, we have to make the senate a better place, and i think a better place is to do what was done tonight, to get rid of these dehe story amendment. >> reporter: make no mistake, this move is political warfare. democrat senator charles schumer said republicans lost their power, quote, because you filibuster everything. mcconnell closed the chapter by saying, quote, i think we

made a big mistake tonight. indeed, it may haunt democrats should they become the minority party. as the saying goes, what goes around comes around. jamie? jamie: we report, our viewers definitely will decide. thanks, doug, good to see you. >> reporter: you too. jon: breaking developments in the search for a missing baby girl in missouri. the latest developments from police and what they are now saying about lisa irwin's parents. plus, it has been ten years since the war in afghanistan began. what progress has been made? and when will our troops be coming home? a ranking member of the house armed services committee joins us next. guy [ male announcer ] this is coach parker... whose non-stop day starts with back pain... and a choice. take advil no and maybe up to four in a day. or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. way to go, coach. ♪ yeah, maybe not. v8 v-fusion juice gives them a full serving of vegetables

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jon: right now some new information on stories from across the country and around the world. missouri police say the parents of a missing baby girl have stopped cooperating with their investigation. ten month old lisa irwin's mother says the baby was last seen asleep in her crib tuesday

night. the baby's mom and dad say they believe she was snatched by an intruder. in chile, riot police cracking down on protesters, officers firing water cannons and using tear gas to break up the rallies. and hundreds of illinois residents forced to evacuate their homes after a fiery train crash. the freight train carrying ethanol derailing and exploding this morning. responders say the fire is contained now, and they'll allow it to simply burn out. no reports of any injuries. jamie: today marks ten years since the war in afghanistan began, and u.s. troop levels there are expected to decrease significantly in the coming months. is the end really near? how do we safely withdraw our troops while also insuring that afghanistan doesn't fall back into the hands of our enemies? for congressman adam smith who's a democrat from washington, also the ranking member of the house armed services committee, and it's very good to see you, sir.

thanks for joining us today. >> thanks for having me on. jamie: a lot of people are concerned about the announcement of withdrawal and also the, it seems to be the movement your committee included in reducing the funds that our troops have available. what's your position? >> well, those are two separate issues. the first question is what's the best national security strategy in afghanistan. there's no question that that region, afghanistan and parts of pakistan, pose a national security threat to our country. how do we contain it? i do think we've made progress in afghanistan. i've been there down in the south in kandahar, um, province, and i have seen the taliban have been driven back. and the local afghan population is now able to govern itself in the relative safety. so progress has been made, but ultimately we have to turn responsibility for running and protecting that country over to the afghan people. we've begun that process. it has to happen. we've been there for ten years now. we cannot be a permanent presence no matter when we

leave. there will be some risk, but we, i believe, have done a good job of helping prepare the afghan people to best protect themselves. so i'm in favor of beginning the drawdown and moving toward the afghans taking responsibility for their own security in their own country as i think all would agree is appropriate. jamie: congressman, i had the privilege this week of speaking with three generals, and i asked each of them, and they've spent a lot of time in the afghanistan, about the fact that the enemy knows when we will begin to leave. and it seems that everybody agrees the concern and the ability to complete this mission properly, it lies in our ability to work with pakistan. what about the funding that we give to that country and the fact that sometimes they're on our side and sometimes you've got to ask whether they are? >> right. it's a huge difficulty and an enormous problem. and we are going to have to have a containment strategy in afghanistan and, frankly n good chunks of pakistan where we know al-qaeda and other taliban extremist elements are at. we're going to have to continue

that containment strategy, and we're not going to be able to trust pakistan. i think that's been clear. but at the same time we're going to have to look for opportunities to work with them. it's an incredibly complicated and difficult relationship, but, you know, president obama said this when he announced his strategy in 2009 that you can't just look at afghanistan. it's afghanistan and pakistan together and our containment strategy has to figure out both, and he's done that. we've been very aggressive in the federally-administered tribal areas of pakistan and going after al-qaeda leaders -- jamie: would you agree then, sir, that perhaps the strategy could be for the two governments of pakistan and afghanistan if we are going to support each in a financial way directly or indirectly by funding our troops that we insist that they get together and work this out if we are going to leave that country? >> well, i think we're certainly going to have to continue to urge them to do that, but we don't control them. we don't control afghanistan, we don't control pakistan. we have to use whatever tools we have in our tool box to push

them to do the right thing in these areas, but leaving 100,000 u.s. troops there permanently isn't a solution either because that comes with its own set of problems. we can't have a permanent presence. the afghan people won't stand for it, and it's not sustainable because both afghanistan and pakistan have to be responsible for governing and securing their own country. now, our troops have done an incredible job. i've seen it. the progress that has been made and at great sacrifice to give the afghan people a chance at that better government, a chance at stopping the taliban from returning to their destructive power, it's there, but the afghan people have to take it. there's always going to be risk. no matter whether we leave. if we left 20 years from now, that would be true. but i think we have made progress, and we have to work with those partners as unreliable as they are. jamie: all right, sir. i know your committee very much holds the pursestrings at least to get the funding, families of troops certainly want them to have everything to get them home. >> and let me say whatever we do in afghanistan and pakistan, we

have to fund it. i'll 100% agree with you on that. if we're not prepared to provide the funds to adequately support 100,000 troops, then we'd better reduce it. whatever we do, we have to provide the funds to make sure our troops have the tools to do the job we've asked them to do. jamie: agreed. ten years in, we'll keep an eye on it. thanks for being with us. jon: new jobs numbers are out today. everyone's looking at them and talking about them. we are answering your questions on the economy. harris has that at the web wall. >> reporter: this is from ronald beasley, he says the president's jobs bill; unions, teachers, police, etc. what if you are unemployed and not any of these? what are you doing for me? you want to get your comments on the show and maybe talk with some of your neighbors in other states? go to foxnews.com, our front page, look for jon ask jenna's picture. click on it. that'll take you to our home page, "happening now," click on america's asking, get into the live chat through one of the many social networking pages.

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jamie: america's asking all about the economy. joining us, a former member of president obama's council of economic advisers, princeton economist cecilia rouse, and doug holtz-eakin. great to see both of you. >> thank you. jamie: cecilia, we have america talking all about the economy today, and they're writing in their questions. this one came specifically for you, and it's about the administration, and this is from

jack who warrants to know -- wants to know how the administration justifies the high cost of the jobs they've created, as much as $200,000 per job? >> well, i'm not exactly sure to which jobs, um, the writer, the questioner is asking about -- jamie: i believe these are the ones, these are the ones created by the first stimulus, excuse me for interrupting, but i'm pretty -- because a second question came in saying how many jobs did they tell us the first stimulus was going to, quote, create? >> so economists, um, have -- many economists inside and outside the administration have estimated the number of jobs that were saved or created with the first stimulus, the american recovery act. and the estimates range from about one million to three million jobs that were created. you know, on the upper end of that we're actually looking at more like $90 to $100,000 a job

which is standard for fiscal investments made by the federal government. jamie: um, all right. let's move on to another question, this one for doug. i want to ask you about a question that came in from 21 cam, cam 21, don't know who that is. [laughter] they say that they want to know when you think the economy will recover, and when do you think the unemployment rate will go down? other viewers wrote us today that they see a few jobs created this month, but they don't understand then why the unemployment rate doesn't move at all. >> well, at the moment the economy is essentially moving sideways with no particular momentum. today's jobs report was thoroughly mediocre. there wasn't disastrous news, but there wasn't any great hope either. i think if we stick with the current set of policies, we're going to bump along like this for another year for sure. i would like to see us push more permanently for broad-based reforms that would allow us to grow more rapidly, and even if we do that, it's going to be

next year before we start to see improvement. jamie: cecilia, as we were told it was a summer of recovery, and if you ask folks around the country, i travel a lot, and i talk to them about how they're doing, they just never felt it. did we have some sort of recovery, and how would we miss it? >> well, the summer of recovery was what the vice president was referring to last summer of 2010 when we had a lot of the infrastructure investments, and i can tell you driving around the country there was a lot of infrastructure investment which put a lot of construction workers back to work. and if you look at how the economy was doing last year and at the beginning of this year, it was looking optimistic. we were creating many jobs, and i think many -- everybody would agree that the economy was looking like it was recovering more quickly. and then we had some unfortunate events such as the debt issues in europe, we had the tsunami in japan, we've had the arab spring which affected the cost of oil,

and so there have been some, you know, shocks to the system, if you will, which have put our economy back on more precarious footing. but, you know, i sort of agree with doug that this jobs report was mediocre. i think i probably look at it a little more optimistically. i think it shows we've still got growth in the private sector. jamie: okay. >> we also know that we have the public sector that's shedding jobs. jamie: the market's down 17 points right now, the dow is, doug, and a lot of people are sitting there wondering about their future. do you have any prediction even if it's growing sideways? is it going to grow at all, and when? that question's come in a lot. >> i mean, the reality is that the trend growth in the u.s. economy has been running at something like a half to a percentage point for quite some time now, and it is also a reality that you always have bad events. there are always shocks of the type that we saw this year, so the key is to actually have an aggressive pro-growth strategy that raises the trend growth rate that isn't temporary, isn't targeted, isn't driven by one

single bill, but is actually a comprehensive effort focusing on the thing we need the most which is jobs. we just haven't seen that sustained concentration out of the administration. that's what we need, and there's no substitute for it. jamie: doug and cecilia, this is your expertise. thanks for weighing in today. >> thank you. jon: marking ten years in afghanistan for u.s. forces, a time to honor the brave men and women who shed their blood on the battlefield including the very first u.s. soldier killed by enemy fire in action there. coming up, we'll talk with the parents of u.s. special forces sergeant nathan chapman.

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jon: today marks 10 years since the bombs first began to fall, marking the beginning of the war in afghanistan. jenna lee is off today but she recently sat down with the parents of special forces sergeant nathan chapman, the very first u.s. soldier killed by enemy fire in that war.

>> on my orders the united states military has begun strikes against al qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the taliban regime in afghanistan. [gunfire] >> we're 10 years away from the beginning of the war on terror and it feels like sometimes it is hard to remember what that time was like in the weeks and months following 9/11. can you tell me a little bit what that was like for your family? >> well, we, it was only a month or so after 9/11. first off, i was, had throat cancer during that period of time and i was taking radiation treatments and had just returned home from a radiation treatment on my throat when i sat down and turned on the television to see the second plane go into the tower. we were, like every american,

traumatized by what we saw that day but within a month we then learned that our son was, somehow going to become involved because he just said he was leaving and was being deployed and we may not hear from him for a while. it was several weeks until we did hear from him in, oh, late november. and at that point he told us that he had been in some special training and that he was getting ready to leave. that was all he could tell us and we didn't hear from him again until christmas when he called us on a satellite phone and, at that point he had a chance to talk to the entire family. during that conversation, it was clear from the timing that he was somewhere in the part of the world that would fit afghanistan but he didn't tell us exactly where he was but that was the last time anyone in our family talked with him. >> this wasn't nathan's

first dangerous assignment. >> no, it wasn't. >> no, it wasn't. he was in panama. he was in haiti. he was in the gulf war as well. so, no, it wasn't his first at all. >> it seems again, according to some of the stories that i have read your son, lynn, that maybe initially, no one really knew what he was headed for in life? he was born at andrews air force base, which, again when you're looking at the story, you think, wow, maybe sets up a military career but the path there wasn't necessarily a direct one, was it? >> no. he didn't, as a child didn't express an interest in the military career at all. in fact we were pretty surprised he told us he was going to sign up to go into the army. if anything we thought, well, maybe air force, but he really hadn't expressed an interest in a military career. but we were pleased. we thought it was a good choice for him. >> well, i mean you're an air force guy.

>> right. we talked, yeah, we talked about him going in the air force. i talked about him going into the air force. he said he didn't think that's what he wanted to do. he was, quite frankly i think a fellow that wanted to defend our country. he wanted to be involved actively in that and i think he thought the army offered him that best opportunity to do it. and, as you can see from his short career, he was in 13 years and had four separate combat environments, if you want to count haiti as one although that wasn't officially combat. and he did that in a 13-year period. >> also in that 13-year period he, as you mentioned, a great deal of service. he gets married. he has two young children, ages two and one, when he ends up deploying to afghanistan. >> right. >> i'm going to fast forward to that moment, will. i read that his wife at the time told a reporter that he said to her, i have a 50-50

chance, i have a 50-50 chance of returning from afghanistan. so, in some ways it almost suggests maybe a premonition just how dangerous the situation was. did you all have any indication of just how dangerous the situation would be? >> i don't think we had a good appreciation for it but having made that statement i know from conversations that i had with nathan in the late '90s when he was home on, at christmas, that he was pretty good at assessing the risks that he was, that he was taking. and for him to say that, i think he had a pretty fair idea that they were in a very dangerous situation over there when they went in. [gunfire] >> so tell us a little bit about that day then, will, when they did get in some trouble and your son died. >> the team had been

involved in a meeting with a local tribal leader in the air of khost, which is close to the pakistani border. and after leaving that meeting and getting back into their vehicles it was at that point that fighting broke out and they were fired upon. nathan was hit almost immediately. one of the cia operatives was also wounded. >> lynn, when did you first learn about his death? >> well, it was january fourth and i had just gotten home, not long ago. i had been out playing golf and someone came to the door from, they sent two soldiers from fort hood. that is the nearest base to us, and they told me. then will came home some time after that and then i told him.

>> when you think about that day, 10 years, it is not 10 years yet but it will be 10 years come this january. >> right, right. >> how is that even to think about? >> it's very vivid even yet. you just don't forget a date like that, that day, and the days right after that, are very vivid and, they're hard, hard to remember. in preparation for this interview with you we went through a lot of the photographs and things that were taken during that period of time. it really stirred up a lot of emotion. >> will, i understand that when you were going through a few of the items, that you actually found a small flag and there's, a there's a really special story behind this small flag that you found and i was hoping that you would be able to share that with us. >> yes. we keep it in the flag case

with the flag that we were given at nathan's funeral. about six months after nathan's death, i received a phone call from an air force tech sergeant and he said that he had been in afghanistan and was getting ready to go back and he said that he had he knew he had to make this phone call before he went back but he had been reluctant to make it. what he had to tell me was that he was the load master on the plane that picked up our son's body in the field. and he said at the time there was no flag available, so he took the flag off his uniform and laid it on nathan's body and he asked me if we would like to have that flag. and, i told him we would and he sent it to us. >> will, i'd like to just ask you about one photograph that we got in particular and it's a photograph of you saluting your son's casket. can you walk us through exactly what was happening

at that time? >> shortly after we arrived in, we arrived in fort lewis, washington, before nathan's body was flown back from europe and, we were there then at the time that the plane carrying his body arrived at sea-tac airport. we along with friends and other family who were there at that time, the army took us out to the hangar where they were bringing his body to and it was received by almost a full contingent of the first special forces group soldiers and an honor guard as well as the pallbearers who were there not only for that event but for nathan's funeral and we were asked to go up to the casket just before it was put into a hearst after coming off the airplane. and as i stood at the foot of it i just thought i needed to honor him that

way. >> we're still at war. obviously our people are still dying. there seems to be a feeling that the political will and even the will of the public is waning when it comes to this conflict and will and lynn, i'm just wondering how it feels for you? this has been a part of your life obviously for the last 10 years. and what is that like, to see, to see that happening? >> well i hate to see us quit without finishing the job that we started out to do. i guess the question is, what is the job that we're trying to do? in my mind we went over there so that this country would not be attacked again in the way we were on 9/11 of 2001. up to now that has not happened again. so from that standpoint what we've done over there has been successful as far as that goes. now have we created an

environment over there where it can no longer be a safe haven for people who would do us harm? i don't know if we have or not but i think that is what needs to be done is that we need to make sure we leave that country in a way that no one is able to do the same thing to us again. jon: their son, nathan chapman, was the first and since his death more than 1700 of our troops have lost their lives in afghanistan. more than 14,000 wounded. i was at west point last night. bestowed on award on former defense secretary robert gates. and he pointed out again, 1%, roughly of the people in our country have ties to our military forces. jamie: jon, we can never forget those who serve but they're brave, courageous and great american families as well. support them like we do. jon: doing a great job for all of us. we'll be right back. wait a second... with olay challenge that. new regenerist wrinkle revolution...

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we have got breaking news in the case of missing baby lisa irwin. a critical update on the piece of evidence that may have focused the police on the parents. you will hear it only here. top of the hour. plus president obama taking aim at gop yesterday on his jobs bill but was the president telling it straight? a fact check right here. and nine u.s. sheriffs want to know more about the attorney general's role in the botched federal gun running sting, operation "fast & furious". so does the family of murdered border patrol agent brian terry. they join us live. all that plus rick santorum. see you at the top of the hour. jon: a fox news alert. a school on lockdown in the houston area. north forest high school on lockdown after a report of a student bringing a gun onto the campus. this all began 45 minutes ago. you see in the pictures from the kriv chopper, that the authorities are walking the

school grounds. they have got people on the roof. once again a report of a school bringing a --, report of a student bringing a gun to school. one student we're told has been arrested. he claims that he gave the gun to another student. police are still looking for that weapon. again, all taking place at north forest high school in the houston area. we'll keep you updated. jamie: for the very first time in court we expect to hear from dr. conrad murray in his own words. the doctor who is facing manslaughter charges in the death of michael jackson. prosecutors are planning to play murray's interview with police, describing the king of pop's final hours. adam housley, live outside that courthouse in los angeles as he has been. adam, everyone wants to know what will he say? what did he say? >> reporter: yeah, you know, jamie, everybody has been waiting for this tape all week long. not sure when the prosecution was going to play it. the latest theory they're trying to play it today before court ends early for

yom kippur and court is off monday. the idea to get the tape in the jury's mind over the course of the next really 3 1/2 days. the latest witness on the stand since yesterday and carried over today, seems like the defense may be trying to draw this out a bit. that tape we're talking about is two hours long and the prosecution may run out of time to actually play it today or all of it today. take a live look inside the courtroom right now. you will see redirect or close-up of right now of what is going on one of the different manuals they're looking at, one of the different reports they're looking at i should say as prosecution does redirect. this is dan and you der son. redirect interviews takes place. he is l.a. criminalist and toxicologist. he is 28th witness called by the prosecution. it has been tedious. the jurors eyes are getting heavy as they watch and listen to the testimony. there has been battling going on with the defense trying to find a way to cut some mistakes into that report or find some mistakes

i should say in that report, jamie. and by most legal analysts accounts they're not really making a lot of headway but what they may be doing is drawing that out so the two-hour tape of dr. conrad murray the interview done right after jackson died they may try to draw it out so the state doesn't play it and may have to wait next week until they hear it. jamie: adam, oldest trick in the book. make the benign testimony today so they don't hear the other one that could be damaging. >> reporter: absolutely. jamie: have a good weekend. jon: there is a brand new discovery that could help millions of people who are highly aletter gik to peanuts. the fox news medical a-team is in the house. dr. marc siegel is here to tell us all about it. here comes the doc. ♪ when you have diabetes...

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jon: well there's a new discovery that could help the millions of americans a lerge gik to peanuts did, allergic. dr. marc siegel on the fox news medical a-team. we heard of kids not allowed to bring peanuts or peanut butter to school because the person may have the allergies and they could be very scary. >> we're talking about three million sufferers, 1% of the population. let me tell you what the big problem is. a lot of this is incidental exposure. you think it is peanuts but it is all over the place. it is in salad dressings. it is in ice cream and baked goods and cereal. even if you say my kid has a peanut allergy i want to keep them away from peanuts you may not be able to do that. jon: you could get it in ice cream. what are they trying to do? what is the technique here.

>> avoidance is the technique. want to say all the things you can v you could have skin rashes, diarrhea, problems breathing. jon: you could end up in the hospital. >> right. what they're trying to do is deactivate the thing in the peanut that causes the allergy. they're getting enzymes going fermenting it like yeast and getting allergens deactivated. very, very sophisticated science. they're doing it down in north carolina and so far they have had very, very good results. jon: would this be done after the plant is harvested or are they trying to make genetic changes in the plant itself? >> this would be after the plant is harvested. it is not genetic changes in the peanut itself. it is getting a the peanut to be produced by the plant that is basically hypoallergenic. jon: when i was a kid i don't remember hearing about peanut allergist and again they're very scary and dangerous. have the incidence gone up? >> there is no question about that. there are theories how that

is. mine is the hypothesis we're overtreating kids with antibiotics, wiping out all the bacteria they are supposed to have that they have crazy immune response to everything especially peanuts. there is something about tree nuts that triggers allergis. there are two big aler agains that provoke all this. this is serious matter. why school lunches can't have peanuts. again you can get this without even realizing. jon: all the dirt i ate as a kid was good for me? >> i wouldn't say that. it wasn't good for me put it that way. jon: thanks a lot, dr. marc siegel. for sunsweet,

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