>> greg: hello, everyone. it's 5:00 on the east coast and this is "the five." actually, it's 4-1/2 because we're waiting for boll boll to get over here from "cavuto." i hope he doesn't stop to lecture a homeless guy on solyndra. where is he? can he hear me yet? no? >> kimberly: he is on the move. >> eric: maybe he won't show up. >> greg: he has problems. does he know where he's going? >> kimberly: it doesn't look like it. >> bob: is that him? >> greg: yes. coming from@cavuto." he was on a different show and now doing our show. >> bob: what the hell did he do that for? >> greg: deon, can he hear me? >> bob: we can get someone to take his place. maybe he'll leave his old lady -- >> kimberly: what are you talking about. >> greg: here he comes. >> bob: hey, you! very good! >> kimberly: you made it. [ applause ] >> eric: got rid of the tie. >> kimberly: bob was hoping you couldn't show up. >> andrea: he was hoping. >> greg: he was hoping you'd get hit by a car, actually. >> bob: i'd console your

wife. go ahead. let's go. >> greg: i'm greg gutfeld, with kimberly guilfoyle, sultan in suspenders, bob beckel is back, of course, eric bolling and andrea tantaros. this box is packed tighter than brown sugar so let's do it. you know times are tough is a cartoon has to take a pay cut. but to survive, simpsons must slice their paychecks in half. it's worse if you are a kid. turn on ses see street there is a poverty stricken puppet named lily, highlighting poverty. i prefer "scooby-doo." they encountered a monster who was a crook trying to uncover their crimes. that seems different now when in the senate, it was blocked by the dems. china bill was being discuss and republicans tried to tack on jobs bill as amendment.

obama said pass it now 500 times you think he'd be thrilled. no. the dems nixed it. intention unmasked as political theater, that leads us to biden. the great joe biden, who at a conference yesterday said the american people believe that the country is not moving in the right direction. yep, nothing gets past joe. i love him. so andrea, what happened last night on the senate floor? i don't understand 90% of it. >> andrea: it is complicate complicated. think reid lost his temper. a lot of my sources say he didn't have this planned. he and mcconnell discussed seven amendments that would be brought to the floor. when reid found out what two of the amendments would be, obama jobs bill, which he didn't want to bring to the floor for a vote and the epa dust regulation, he panicked and said no, you can't do this. the reason republicans are doing it, there is a split in the dem caucus on the jobs bill. i thought they could get the dust bill reversal passed.

>> bob: what is a dust bill? >> greg: don't pretend you don't know dust, bob. >> bob: i got plenty of it. >> andrea: they're trying to regulate dust. so reid panics and loses his temper and says you can't do this. he goes to the parliamentary in the senate. he says no, i agree with mcconnell he says you can't pick amendments for us. what does reid do? say i'm going to overturn the vote. get everyone to vote. this is unprecedented. it hasn't happened before world war ii. harry reid does not want his caucus to have to take any votes. >> bob: he wants to take a vote he can pass. do you understand that? >> andrea: bob, he doesn't want them to take an up-or-down vote on anything. he wants them to duck and cover until election day. >> bob: maybe not on dust but certainly on going on a jobs bill he can pass with 51%. >> greg: when is that vote

going to take place? >> bob: when is the vote going to take place? as soon as the dust is finished. next week. they'll get it next week, as long as the republicans don't obstruct this. don't you understand this? why is mcconnell coming on the floor to do this stuff? >> eric: there is a great explanation of what went on last night but the bottom line is -- wait, bunch of political b.s. wrangling, bottom line is this. do you want to pass the jobs bill, it should pass the right way, two-third majority in senate and go to house. let them pass it -- they're never going to get it. let's point one thing out. >> bob: 60 votes. >> eric: 9.1% unemployment for the third month in a row. >> bob: 100,000 new jobs. >> eric: 58,000 really new jobs created. verizon jobs came back. it can't bring in a doughnut in again or bagel because there is 53,000. >> kimberly: give it time. >> eric: but still 9.1% unemployment. not working. >> bob: 100,000 jobs.

give him credit for something. last night there were no jobs and all you did is have your doughnut. the 100,000 jobs. >> kimberly: please don't. >> bob: bob's mug. whatever you, do you get something. kimberly, i want to bring you in on this. will the millionaire surtax get it passed? >> kimberly: give me a break. this is what bothered me about last night. emcee political theater. what are they doing? reid losing their temper. it's grossly irresponsible when you have americans out of jobs, people are suffering. they want real leadership and they're not getting it. instead you have people finger pointing, arguing back and forth. >> bob: what is irresponsible for people out of work to tax millionaires? >> kimberly: not saying it's irresponse to believe tax people. >> bob: it doesn't help. >> greg: the money doesn't go anywhere. what will the money do?

>> bob: hire people. >> greg: you punish the rich for -- >> bob: punishing those with rich stocks? >> kimberly: punishing successful people. >> andrea: democrats told us obamacare would make our wildest dreams come true. then it was the stimulus and then dodd-frank and now the millionaire tax makes all of our dream come true. >> bob: no, the dust bill is. >> greg: the millionaire tax, new york lawmakers are getting violent threats if they don't pass the state law on the millionaires tax. >> bob: good. >> greg: see, you're for good honest to god class warfare. >> bob: yes. >> kimberly: that's why he is a democrat. >> eric: what is spending $850 million in the -- what did it do? >> bob: save 3 million jobs, saved teachers jobs and cops. >> eric: if you don't give me $800 billion unemployment won't go above 8%. it's now 9.1%. >> bob: they made a mistake.

god made a mistake with you. anything can happen. >> greg: that was terrible. >> eric: that was so mean. >> bob: it wasn't mean. i love you, but $800 billion didn't do anything. >> eric: i'm not going to be nice to him the rest of the show. >> kimberly: you were being nice before this? >> andrea: the millionaires tax is probably enough to get reid the votes he needs next week. >> bob: that is right. you upset me terribly. >> greg: kimberly, what is joe biden is speaking the truth? >> kimberly: he is my new favorite person this week. somebody poked him with truth serum, everything out of his mouth, yep, agree with that. i don't know how obama feels about his all of a sudden truthful transparency. >> andrea: they are singing off the same song sheet. they realize saying nothing is wrong and everything is perfect and wonderful makes them look insane. >> bob: can i have a

nonsecular -- could the producers speak up? i can't hear a word you're saying. >> greg: a minute. what do you make of the hunger -- it's good intentio intentions. teaching kids about hunger do you buy it? >> andrea: i don't understand why the muppet is hungry. obama expanded medicaid, food stamp, wic, s-chip. why is lilly hungry? should lilly be taken away from her parents? >> bob: one in five children go to bed hungry in this country every night. it's a crime in this country. >> eric: why does lilly have to be a muppet. why does "sesame street" make her poverty stricken muppet. >> bob: because this educates kids. >> eric: why is lilly a class, a group? do we single out the black or

the hispanic pun muppet? >> bob: there is one in five children in poverty in america. whatever it takes to feed them. >> andrea: there is money out there to feed the kids. >> bob: where? >> andrea: this is the biggest bunch of liberal bull. >> kimberly: i don't think it's nice for the kids. 5-year-old and sees the commercials and it's upsettin upsetting. >> bob: it's real. >> kimberly: but you don't need to scare and upset babie babies. >> eric: we have to get out of here. he does this to me every day, says the beach house and things. were broke poor, dead poor in the south side of chicago growing up. i started businesses. america is great. capitalism is great. >> greg: but you never invited me to the beach house. >> kimberly: none of us. >> bob: i've always admired you for that. >> greg: we have to take a break. coming up, a first glimpse -- >> bob: he didn't invite me either.

>> bob: bob. first glimpse of what the health insurance plans will look like under obamacare. what the governments think you should and shouldn't be entitled to. e-mail us at thefive@foxnews.com. we'd like to hear your comments and of course, the nice wonderful things you want to say about bob. we'll be right back. at bayer, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief. with new extra-strength bayer advanc aspirin. it has microparticles, enters the bloodstream faster and rushes relief to the site of pain. it's clinically proven to relieve pain ice as fast. new bayer advanced aspirin.

♪ ♪ >> kimberly: welcome back to "the five." well, obamacare has been a hot topic on the show. >> andrea: now we have a first look at what our government thinks are the essentials for your healthcare coverage. so the institute of medicine just put out a report saying that the obama administration should recommend what should be essential benefits for all of us. basically one size fits all program. and here is what they had to say. costs must be taken in account. if the benefits are not affordable, fewer individuals will buy insurance, healthcare spending continues to rise faster than gdp. the value of essential health benefits is likely to be eroded. break it down and simple terms. the government is going to be dictating what are the

essential terms under obamacare, eric. >> eric: even scary, a line in the document is no, no -- this is very scary. if you're not scared, you should be. cost effectiveness of the treatment. so if there is a treatment that is working but it's very expensive, they're going to say well, guess what? we're not going to pay for it. that is scary thought. >> greg: what scares me is the things they are going to pay for. because there is going to be a lot of groups now that the money spigot is turned on, we have a lot of lobbyists for acupuncture and massage. in five years i'll be able to get liposuction, nose job and a sex change, which i'm planning on. >> andrea: we're all going to be paying for it. >> bob: you're going to be hot. >> greg: don't you think? >> bob: if you liposuctioned you, you'd disappear. >> kimberly: maybe. >> bob: what is wrong with government defining benefits? >> andrea: we're not all the same person, bob. >> bob: well, that's for sure. >> andrea: you're right

about that. the government has been telling us it will be so much better. think about this, though. they will be dictating what they will pay for. >> bob: they are not going to dictate individual -- >> andrea: they're doing it on cost to save money. cost of obamacare is through the roof so they say we'll only pay for certain things. so the reports that say healthcare is going to become shoddy, this is proof of it. >> kimberly: this is something we don't want in this country and we don't need. people will literally freak out when they see it go into play and the impact on their lives. first, what does the government do well so far? nothing. spending money and raising taxes. now they're going to decide your personal individual healthcare and what service you can get? that is -- yes, that is what is going to happen. >> kimberly: living on the planet of the apes. >> bob: that is not what

this says. >> andrea: we can all get plastic surgery under the plan. >> bob: with all due respect, maybe one or two like greg said it already. the fact of the matter is it's a list of guidelines. you say it keeps the cost down. all of you have been doing is sitting around complaining about the cost being so high. what is wrong with that? >> eric: decisions are made based on cost effectiveness of the treatment. >> bob: fine. >> eric: also, not only the treatment, the development, the research and development, think about that for a second. it's not covered. >> andrea: for example, pharmaceutical drug industry is lobbying that just designer drugs are part of this, instead of just generic drugs. as you pointed out, hhs could come out and say just generic drugs there are not some generics that can replace -- >> bob: you're exactly right. you know the subject well. i understand that.

the republicans have consistently and repeatedly stopped research and development on lots of things including medicine. now, if there is a reason why we should -- >> eric: for what? >> bob: for everything. >> eric: what are you talking about? stopped research and development -- >> bob: because they gutted the budget. that's right. the tea party gutted the budget. >> andrea: the tea party? >> kimberly: really, the tea party? that is totally inaccurate. >> bob: it's not inaccurate. >> kimberly: yes, it is. >> bob: the fact of the matter is, and i blame the democrats as well who went along with the outrageous budget cuts in spending. for things we need to spend money on. research development education. highway, infrastructure. you want to leave it up to the private sector to do that do you think the private sector will do that? >> greg: good news for both of us, it will cover mental health. >> bob: there is not enough

in the budget to cover my mental health. >> andrea: institute represents that mental health is a serious issue. >> bob: why shouldn't it be covered, by the way? >> andrea: why don't you let private insurers what could be part of -- >> bob: they're crooks. >> andrea: why don't democrats let us all buy our own plan -- >> bob: they prove themselves to be gouging, ridiculously expensive, non-serviceable institutions that ought to be out of business. >> greg: how about rehab? you are intimately familiar with that. should they be covered for rehab second, third, fourth time? >> bob: i got covered four times. on the fifth i didn't and it worked. >> greg: it costs $35,000, $40,000. >> bob: not overstate the cost. some are less than others. >> andrea: but all of the preventative screenings, things that we typically get might not made available.

>> eric: there is a drug for pancreatic cancer, that god rest his soul, steve jobs died yesterday, once a month injection that costs $5,000 per injection. >> bob: why? >> eric: guess what? >> bob: why? >> eric: if it's not cost effective enough, people won't get it. people will die. >> bob: national institute of health spent money to get the pancreatic drugs because the drug companies refused to put it out because they couldn't make enough money. >> kimberly: only people are wealthy enough -- >> bob: i want every american should have it and not pulled back by a drug company. >> andrea: lobbyists are driving this bill. >> bob: right. drug lobbyists. screw them. >> andrea: they're influencing the bill. this is the point. if you get sick in this country, don't call a doctor, call a lobbyists. >> bob: don't call insurance company, that's for sure. >> andrea: coming up, mitt romney gives a major foreign policy speech. much different tone than president obama. forget the presidential

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♪ ♪ >> bob: that's eric's brain. welcome back to "the five." we're talking about 2012 now and everyone says presidential hopeful mitt romney gave voters foreign policy that looked like if he takes the white house, don't count on it, listen to this. >> i will offer a very different vision of america's role in the world. and of america's destiny. i will begin reversing obama cuts to national missile defense and order full review to the transition to the afghan military to secure that nation's sovereignty from

tyranny of the taliban and again reiterate iran obtaining a nuclear weapon is unacceptable. >> bob: mitt, that is a lot of brand new stuff you came up with there. we're so proud of the study you've done. "a," missile defense system everybody agreed would not work. "b," northbound wants iran to have nuclear weapons. and we said so. if you want to reverse afghanistan, leave 100,000 troops in afghanistan? fine, mitt, you pay for it out of your family fortune. >> greg: wasn't the obama administration okay with nuclear weapons in iran? >> bob: no. where did you get that from? >> greg: i thought you told me that. >> eric: we know ron paul -- >> kimberly: look at his face. >> bob: comedy. >> stay away if they gained it, it would be bad if they did but not our job to make sure they don't. >> bob: nobody believes that. if iran gets close to it, they will be taken out by us or by israel. we don't need mitt romney's views to know that. >> bob: >> no, but we do zillionth

around the table, dana said and you said also where is rick perry on foreign policy? good when he says -- >> bob: he is not saying that. he has henry kissinger, the youngest guy on it at 93. >> andrea: in bob's defense, the reason he is not saying anything new he has 22 of bush's former advisors. so a lot of people would say is that a smart move? >> bob: good point. >> andrea: to bring back bush's advice sors. no question that romney has the most sophisticated operation out of any of the candidates. he is doing things. but you wonder why would he do something so controversial? this is much less about romney and more about bush. why open yourself up to that? >> greg: what a surprise. like shakira. >> bob: i can understand why he needs to talk about foreign policy. he has laid out position on jobs which is ridiculous, but the point of this is if you are going to do something on this, call for something significant? did you deal with the united

states and china? >> eric: because he is winning. you're a football guy, right? if you are running the ball and getting four or five, six yards every carry, why do you start throwing the ball? you don't. >> bob: any president or pathial wannabe has to address the united states and chinese relationship. >> eric: now? >> bob: yes. >> eric: from the front? >> greg: he said america must lead the world or someone else will. >> bob: that is a tough one! >> greg: that is not what obama said when he was running for president. he talked about yeah, america is exceptional and so everyone else. meaningless. >> kimberly: i like what he said. he wants to strengthen our position. i think we should. >> bob: strengthen it where? >> kimberly: throughout the world. how about that? start with that. >> bob: we don't have solges but go ahead and do it. >> kimberly: he made a call to reject multilateral institutions like the u.n. taking precedent and operating things. i like that approach. >> bob: if romney called for the end of the u.n., good news. good for you, man.

let me switch here for a second. marco rubio who i think ought to be anybody's candidate for vice president no matter who gets the nomination, said i don't want it. >> andrea: yeah, right. >> bob: does this surprise you? >> andrea: he wants it. >> bob: of course. >> andrea: everyone who is asked said yes do you know anyone asked that says no? >> greg: like at a friend's house for dinner, they ask if you want seconds, but you say no. finally they say c'mon, okay. that's what being a v.p. is. you wait until you're asked. >> kimberly: everybody wants him, too. he is playing hard to get now. what is the strategy here? >> eric: who does he help the most? >> bob: any of them. >> eric: i know everyone wants hispanic and florida. >> bob: romney. >> eric: who gets the most upside? >> bob: romney. romney gets the upside. i vetted presidential candidates. we were asked to vet some of them, half were crooks. the ones who made it through my screen, which is pretty loose. no, but we have a good vice

presidential candidate geralyn ferraro, our former colleague and wonderful person. but a big job. rubio is playing it so smart. he's not stepping out too far, the speeches are bright, to the point. raising money on the presidential races. who would not take hispanic from florida? >> kimberly: but is he obligated if asked to then do it, rise up for the party and help try to -- >> bob: the odds tell you vice president will become president one day. the answer to that is absolutely yes. what does he want to do? >> eric: you know what is funny? rubio goes i don't want it. [ inaudible ] i'll take it. >> bob: newt said i will take it. newt would take it, i'm sure. cain would take anybody but perry. what do you think of that? >> andrea: funny. >> eric: i'm not surprised. there is that issue. by the way, the issue with the hunting -- his father's

hunting cabin. i would like to say, we have a couple of friends down at the value voters summit right now. apparently both cain and perry have made some very, very emotional and great speeches. i would expect -- a straw poll coming out. >> bob: let me say this. we have one of the topics is cnn with msnbc lawrence o'donnell. we don't recognize either one of those or lawrence o'donnell so we'll take a break. >> kimberly: i like that. >> bob: now i don't want everyone so shocked they fall out of chairs but next, the colleagues are going to blame the housing crisis on obama. ♪ ♪ almost tastes like one of jack's als.

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>> eric: welcome back. at least four of us, is the american dream slipping away? get this. new stats show that we have the biggest drop of homeownership since the great depression, down to 65% in 2010. kimberly, it's not working. >> kimberly: everybody wants to provide for their family and so much so that you have biden and obama agreeing we're in a bad situation and they can't avoid it. they can't blame it on bush. the number goes back to '94. someone has to step forward with ideas. >> bob: the way they count this is the number of vacant homes out there. there was an abundance of

homes built. they shouldn't have been built. a lot of people not in homes -- >> eric: not vacancies. >> bob: 65% of american people have homes. >> eric: blacks were hit the hardest. 44% of the black population don't own home. >> bob: because they were given loans they shouldn't have been given by bankers they shouldn't have been given. >> eric: endorsed by the government. >> bob: i agree. they were sold by extremists, by who? your buddies in wall street. >> greg: if those loans were given they would have been seen as discriminating against the potential buyers. the proof of this. now you have fannie and freddie with decades of the loans. if that is not admission of guilt, what is it? >> bob: discrimination is giving people loans they can't afford. >> eric: let's talk about this. when were all the loans given

and who -- bob, hold on. who were running congress and the senate at the time of the loans? >> andrea: right. democrats were in charge. the republicans called for at the time president bush to a strong independent regulator in 2006. democrats, dodd, frank said no we don't need this. barney frank said no, everything is good to go. i agree, bob, a noble goal but this is called the american dream for a reason. it is not the american right. >> kimberly: american hand-out. >> andrea: let me finish. now the administration has made it so much worse for people to own a home. even barney frank is saying the regulators calling for 20% down when you really are, it shouldn't be that high. they are choking the mortgage industry. they've gone too far. >> bob: we ran the tape of segment i said something i thought for once greg would agree with -- >> you meaner rick. >> greg: i'm greg. i'm the little guy. >> bob: i said giving loans to people who cannot afford them, minorities, whoever they

are is discrimination. and you immediately cut me off. you agree with me, right? >> eric: that is not what you said. giving loans to people who can't afford them and bundling them up the road -- >> greg: it's discrimination if you don't do it and it's discrimination if you do, do it. >> kimberly: you can't win. >> andrea: it's not stupid. >> bob: it's not just against black people or brown people. i'll be careful here. against people who qualify to have loans. if bankers knew they wouldn't pay the bills -- >> eric: you're right up until that point. right there, you are right. the problem, kimberly, bankers were told push the loans out the door. b. because they could sell them upstream. >> kimberly: there is a sense of what about personal responsibility? why is it everybody else's fault. you have to understand if you know your money and you know your finances and you know you're in over your head. you can't blame everybody

else. you have to be responsible for your household and your personal investment. >> bob: if you are told by bankers that they give you a deal about no percent this year and 1%. >> bob: you must have signed more badge loans. i don't read them. if you don't read them and you don't sign them, you don't get them. a lot of people did not know and they signed things they were not aware of. maybe they should have been but they weren't. >> greg: there is an opportunity here for somebody to write a book on how to live at home and date. now everybody who would normally buy homes move back home. a lot are single. how do you date on living at home? someone needs to write a book on turning a window to sliding door. that would be nice. >> bob: no, no, no. i been through the this. run the dryer really loud. >> greg: do you think that is a good point? >> bob: i think it's a good point there are more three generation families under one roof since the great depression.

>> eric: what does that tell you? >> andrea: it could be good for the family structure but what we are talking about with the housing crisis -- >> bob: wouldn't good for my family structure. >> andrea: this administration is pushing out the college loans, same thing is happening. people aren't reading the paperwork. >> bob: the ones in trouble are private, corporate. >> andrea: they can't secure the bankruptcy and no jobs to pay them back. >> eric: we have to leave it there. coming up, do you think occupy wall street protests, we're seeing them across the country seem staged? new reports show some protesters are being paid. details next on "the five." >> bob: good, they're jobs. ♪ ♪ there's only one bottle left !

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: wow! bob feels good. what can i say? welcome back to "the five." the latest report on the occupy wall street protest are that the protests are actually being paid. they got a job. to show up. >> bob: yea! >> kimberly: wow!

jobs program. liberal organizers in d.c. actually told the "daily caller" that some hispanic protesters marching with this group aren't volunteers, that they are holding up signs in english they couldn't even read. if anything makes me mad is a staged, phony protest. i don't know. >> bob: go to a tea party protest on the mall. plenty of them. >> greg: nobody is paid to do tea party protest. how ironic is this? you have to pay somebody to protest against capitalism. that makes no sense at all. they should do it for free! >> kimberly: for free! >> bob: did we get this? we're not protesting against capitalism. >> bob: you're part of it now? >> bob: we are -- >> eric: wait. you're saying, "we." are you a wall street protester? >> kimberly: that's what he said. >> bob: they wouldn't late me go. >> eric: you're not one of them. >> bob: that is not the point. i'm in favor of this. okay, i won't say anything. >> greg: this is what i love. what is published on bill

ayers website, not his but he published it. people are protesting against they have poisoned the food supply through negligence. profited off thor chune and cruel treatment of countless animals. held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt. i want to ask you. who is "they"? us, america. >> andrea: this table! bo >> bob: start with the last one. sallie mae. that is one. >> greg: is that a woman you met? >> bob: polluted river and food. count the way the agricultural community sent stuff to rivers. >> andrea: do they mean wall street? >> bob: pardon? >> andrea: do they mean wall street? >> bob: wall street buys the stock and sells them so they can do that. >> andrea: are the protesters upset at wall street for electing barack obama? wall street gave obama -- hold on. way more than john mccain. and goldman sachs, eric, was the number one donor to barack obama. are they a little upset about that? >> kimberly: notice hypocrisy? they put him in.

>> bob: they are not against capitalism. most of them aren't. some of them are communists. i agree with you. my cousin, for example. but wait a second. >> greg: you just outed your cousin. >> bob: they're protesting a form of capitalism that favors small percentage of people against rest of us. >> eric: they are against capitalism. >> bob: no. >> eric: countless -- may i? countless interviews with these lefty wacko nut bags, "down with capitalism." capitalism isn't bad. we need to destroy capitalism but what is the alternative? only one. socialism. >> bob: did you ever -- >> eric: no. hannity -- ainsley earhart has and they're consistent. down with capitalism. it's a socialism, marxism, communism. that's all we have left. >> bob: we've been over this. >> andrea: the democrats are

embracing this. >> bob: for good reason. >> andrea: even the president. look, i think that not only do democrats want this. i think they believe in this and they need this to rally the base. >> bob: but capitalism that is fair to all people. >> bob: that is practiced -- >> eric: that is called socialism, by the way. >> bob: that is not true. not fair. rich people get richer. [over talk ] >> bob: that is capitalism. wall street capitalism. >> greg: make an observation here of who is there. you talk about big organic. what you are seeing are the same people. moveon.org, tim robins, adrianna huffington, code pink is there. basically, it's an orgy inside sean penn's brain. the same people that have been around forever. >> bob: the bull-headed nerds that ran goldman sachss? >> greg: you have to be more specific. >> eric: jon corzine who is now there also. oh, a different one? >> kimberly: adrianna huffington, she is big on

twitter about this, embracing the whole movement. another capitalist. so we talk about that this morning. hypocrisy there. huge capitalist. >> bob: nothing wrong with capitalists. we're not against -- >> eric: they are! talking about going to people's home. >> bob: i consider "they" part of me. me part of "they." >> eric: these are not capitalists. they're socialists. they're against corporate, they call it corporate profits. not enough trickle down to people -- what? >> bob: talk about jobs. >> andrea: money baggals beckel, you're rich, too. >> bob: do you think people get stock tip on main street the same on wall street? >> eric: no, you're right. that goes to big ones like george soros who we will talk about in a minute. >> bob: or the koch brothers. >> eric: soros has been indicted in france. >> bob: koch brothers are about to get indicted. >> kimberly: not doing that right now.

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♪ ♪ >> greg: well, that brings back memories. welcome back to "the five." so here is a story, media matters por got to report -- forgot to report. george soros is in a battle he can't buy his way out. the court refused to overturn the 2002 conviction for insider trading in french court. but he has one more chance to appeal and clear his name. we're all broken up about this, right? >> eric: one of those corporate big wigs, fat cats on wall street that made billions of dollars betting against america. i don't hear you talk about him and pointing a finger at him. >> bob: the koch brothers have serious stuff. that was ten years ago. >> andrea: consider the crook is funding protest -- >> bob: that was ten years ago.

>> kimberly: moveon.org. >> made them admit -- >> bob: a deal. fine. >> eric: money at the expense of other people. >> bob: 50 years ago -- district let me ask you about soros. it seems to me he has a fundamental distaste for what america is. doesn't that -- >> bob: he has a fundamental distaste for what is right and just and fair. >> andrea: he should go back to his home country of hungary and use his money there where they have hunger there. >> bob: we all have home countries. >> andrea: i was born in this country. i'm an american. thank you. >> greg: apologize. >> bob: i'm not going to apologize. >> greg: our beloved vladimir putin is turning 59 years young today? how are you going to celebrate, andrea? >> andrea: i was going to say i'd take my shirt off. >> kimberly: i knew you were going to say that. >> greg: don't want to do that.

>> bob: go ahead. >> greg: stop it. he's going to be in power in a couple of years. >> eric: the little fishing trip he went on when he found the $3 billion item was a celt-up. >> bob: there is a serious note here. used to be head of the kgb and bringing back kgb and all semblance of democracy is gone now. brought there in glasnov. medvedev decided to get away. a dale cut early on. you know, now you have this guy back and i guarantee you the courts will go away, there will be fewer and fewer rights in that country. one of the great strategies of all time. i remember george bush said i looked in that guy's soul and saw a good man. looked in eye of dracula. >> greg: big happy birthday to fox news channel. 15 years ago today it launched to rise massively successful cable news power house. >> kimberly: happy birthday. >> greg: while others laughed. >> kimberly: who is laughing

now? >> bob: all right! >> kimberly: i knew you had to have some. >> greg: give us a heart attack. >> bob: surprised he didn't have anti-obama signs on it. >> kimberly: c'mon. >> bob: say this about "the five." i know history of programming cost of fox news. they couldn't give this station away in the beginning. in some cases they almost had to pay cable operators to take it. now we get three, four times more than anybody else does for good reason. combined fox beats msnbc, cnn. >> kimberly: headline news. >> bob: by five to one. >> greg: i have to move on. tune in to fox tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern, bill hemer will take you back in last 15 years. the milestone and stoes. covered here on the fox news channel. >> bob: five getting