i don't think i did quite as well as i thought. >> gretchen: maybe you could try cooking. >> yeah. >> brian: i'll try that bible. >> steve: we'll see you tomorrow. bill: that's a great-looking headband. squaring off in the debate, it's all about jobs and the economy. good morning, i'm bill hemmer. a lot to cover today. when we see kilmeade on radio at 11:00 a.m. we shall. martha: x had the latest -- we had the latest showdown in new

hampshire. >> i don't need 9-9-9, we need a president committed. >> i it didn't come off a pizza box it was well studied and well developed. >> the real course for america is to have somebody as a leader who can identify people in both parties who care more about the country than they care about being reelected. >> the cool thing about my plan is it will pass tomorrow. it would pass tomorrow because industrial state democrats want those jobs. >> who on from the private sector is going to want to give up their privacy. they serve as tremendous disincentives for good people to get into government. >> theific was put in by the federal government.

if you want to put people in jail you ought to start with barney frank and chris dodd. you look at politicians who put this country in trouble. bill: that was just a sample of last night. perry did not make up enough ground, that what the experts say. carl cameron is our expert live in new hampshire. 9-9-9 was the topic. >> reporter: the last couple week herman cain has been surging in the polls. with that surge comes scrutiny. last night he got tonight dartmouth. over and over again his rivals ridiculed his 9-9-9 plan. mr. cain asked a rifle to talk about his own plan. listen how he starts. >> the 9-9-9 plan i proposed is

simple, transparent, efficient, fair, and neutral. my question is to governor romney, can you name all 59 points in your 160-page plan and does it satisfy that cry tearafter being simple, transparent, efficient, fair, fan neutral? [applause] >> i have had the experience of my life take on tough problems and simple answers are always very helpful but oftentimes inadequate. >> when you take the 999 plan and turn it upside down, i think the devil is in the details. >> how many people for a sales tax inn hampshire? >> mr. cain's 9-9-9 plan is a 9%

income tax, 9% business thanks and 9% sales tax. not a single handle went up when rick santorum asked that question. bill: what about the battle between perry and romney last night. >> reporter: generally mr. perry's aides acknowledge he did better than he did in the last couple debates. there were no home runs, but he didn't do any more damage and showed serious improvement. for mitt romney no question he had a strong night. there was one moment where romney argued against bailout politics, supported the wall street bailout and separately romney suggested the gm bailout was poorly furnded. he opposed the detroit bailout. but other than that, not a lot that he has to worry about after

last night's debate. bill: there is a lot to chew on after last night. almost two hours of it. martha: if you are at home going, what is the 9-9-9 plan, we'll talk about the details of it. it proposes scrapping the current tax system with a 9% corporate tax, 9% personal tax and a 9% national sales tax. and a fair tax that would replace corporate and individual income tax. what do other candidates have in mind to fix the economy? stuart varney is with us. what do you think all this. >> herman cain's plan is understandable. everybody can wrap their arms around a plan that's 9-9-9 in

tax rates. he sees radical tax reform as a way to get the economy going. move on to mitt romney. he has a complicated and nuanced plan. it's 160 pages. it goes through 5% spending cuts and energy exploration. it's a big, nuanced plan. last night mitt romney was most effective when he was talking about his experience of job creation when he worked at bain capital. he helped create staples and the sports authority. the big loser when it came to the economy was governor perry who does not have a plan other than developing america's energy reserves. martha: romney came back and said simple is great but it doesn't always work.

how important is this to have an esteemed group of check in advisors? >> how much good did it do to have president bush have harvard people advise him on the economy. herman cain has among his advisors rich. herman cain is straight to the point, it's not full of jargon. martha: he puts himself on the map by calling for radical tax reform which a lot of folks are talking about outside the beltway. thank you very much. stuart varney joining us now. bill: we'll be joined by herman cain. we'll ask about his tax plan and

the issue of race in the campaign and race in the country which is gathering steam by the day. martha: it's becoming parts of the national conversation. the topic of race had a heated debate venue on o'reilly. take a look at this firey exchange when bill spoke to tavis smiley and the princeton professor. bill: he's trying to hurt him, professor. that was the subject of the arizona speech by president obama. mark it off. if you want to debate like we are debating here, you two guys and me. that's what the folks want to hear. they don't want to hear belafonte cheap shot herman cain. >> when herman cain says racism is not leaving anybody back.

the stop and frisk policy in new york. that's just small examples that are chronic and still at work so in that sense for you to say somehow it's a personalizing allows both him but also you, brother bill, to trif y'allize the suffering that's out there. -- to trivialize the suffering that's out there. martha: west had harsh words for herman cain saying he needs to get off the symbolic crack pipe. bill: we'll put those questions to herman cain later. mitt romney scored a huge victory and it has nothing to do with that debate. the front runner snagging that coveted endorsement from new jersey governor chris christy. now the chris christy speculation has gone from a

trownt white house to the v.p. spot. >> the bottom line is you don't run for something like that. whoever the nominee is of our party and i believe it will be governor romney. he will choose who he thinks will best serve the country as vice president and if need be can serve as president as well. i have a lot of things to do in new jersey. i'm committed to doing my job in new jersey. i'm not going to worry about stuff i have no control over. romney says christy would be on anybody's v.p. short list. martha: those are just a few of the stories were watching in "america's newsroom." mitt romney blasting the pastor who called mormonism a cult. he says perry needs to denounce those comments immediately. will they do that? we'll speak orrin hatch.

bill: what are we learning about this terror plot? why it's being called an act of war and sparking terror alerts around the globe. >> it reads like the pages of a hollywood script. the impact would have been real and many lives would have been lost. hey, did you ever finish last month's invoices?

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martha: the drive to recall wisconsin governor scott walker getting the green light. he has been under fire after the showdown he went through over union rights. pushing through a state law that scrapped collective bargaining rights for workers. it garnered national attention. now the chairman of wisconsin's democratic party announced a possible recall vote that would take place in the spring. walker says he will not lose focus. >> it's not going to take away from the focus we have. we are focused on a special

session that will be another wave of helping us create more jobs. martha: only two governors in american history have ever been recalled. bill: there is new information this morning of a terror plot allegedly hatched in iran and aimed at targets in washington, d.c. the feds say this iranian, back, was working to assassinate the saudi arabian ambassador. >> in the days since his arrest he has confessed to his participation in the alleged plot as well as provide other valuable information. >> we shouldn't be surprised by it. this is the same government in a digs to trying to kill two am bass dmoarts united states is the same government trying to

get ahold of a nuclear weapon. bill: the state department issuing a worldwide travel warning for u.s. citizens abroad. k.t. macfar land is our fox news analyst. what can we do now? >> what we should do in any event is try to bankrupt the iranian regime. you do what reagan did in the 1980s. drive down the price of oil. get saudi arabia to pump more oil and at home we should drill, baby, drill. once that price of oil goes down they will be threatened. they will be so busy dealing with things at home. bill: we are a long way from an energy policy. short of that, the senator from illinois, what's his idea.

>> he says take it central bank of iran and isolate it from the world economy. do to them what we have done to north korea, destablize the government on economic grounds. but i think there is something else we need to do. look at our southern border. we have illegal immigrants and drugs going across that. how long is it going to take before somebody realized the terrorists and weapons of mass destruction, they can hook up with drug cartels. somebody will realize that's a southern border that's porous and they can bring weapons of mass destruction and terrorists. bill: the other person's name mentioned yesterday is still at large and has not been arrested. but this was not an attack aimed at the united states. this was iran targeting saudi arabia. that an important distinction.

what is iran's interest to hit saudi arabia here. >> what's brewing in the persian gulf is a fight of some sort between iran and saudi arabia. iran is shiite and persian. saudi arabia sunni arab. those tribes have been fighting each other for a millennia. bill: if iran succeeds in destabilizing the middle east, what does that mean for us? >> it means everything for us. if iran is bold like this now what are they going to be like with nuclear weapons? they will expand in the region. they will score an arm's race in the single most unstable area in the world. they will control the strait of more -- the strait of hormuz.

bill were when we get more details we'll pass it onto our viewers. it's have much against the grain of what everybody thought that press conference was going to be about. martha: back to politics. mitt romney fires back. what he says about the pastor who's calling his religion a cult and way wants rick perry to do about it. plus new developments in the disappearance of 10-month-old lisa irwin. the nationally known private investigator who is joining this search. >> the drug store, the grocery store. target. we go to get things for the house and her, and everybody stops me and she is beautiful, and she loves everybody. and she is really friendly and go to anyone.

bill: developing in america' newsroom. beware of melting flat screen tv. sony recalling millions of sony tvs. they say it can cause the screens to start melting. the space shuttle endeavour officially getting the keys to the california science center. endeavor was ref.b.i. tired after years service. in pennsylvania with white-tailed deer wandering in through the door and break a sink and computer before the police got her out. i'm wondering if there is an app for that. martha: i think the deer are take over the world. bill: nothing preys on the deer.

martha: this story has garnered so much attention. there are new developments in the search for the missing 10-month-old baby girl. police are searching a landfill and a well. now a prominent private investigator has joined this search. >> we know she is out there and we know where the obvious focus is. we want to extend that focus. i'm here to seek the truth. wherever that truth takes me, that's where i'm going go. the family behind me have all agreed, one and all, everyone inside the house and outside the house. and i will just ask the media to, you know, respect certain boundaries for the large part most of the media has been respectful and has been covering this fairly. a minority has been a little bit aggressive. i know everybody has a job to do. my job is to finally a and help

law enforcement any way i can. martha: let's bring in mark fuhrman, a former l.a.p.d. detective and fox news contributor. how does this entrance of bill stanton affect things? >> i'm not sure it's going to affect anything. you can't change the truth and he will follow it wherever it lead him. if that is true, the kansas city police department has access to more latitude and investigation than any other body. they note case, they note area, they have the law, search warrants, a seated grand jury, subpoena tour -- seen a power. he won't have more access than the police do. martha: you say police have to go back to the basics in terps of talking to the family which we think they have continued to do throughout. but when the mother debra

bradley spoke to them initially she left out part of her story about where she was that day. >> that's true. if you are going to say the child was kidnapped we have to look at what the circumstance are here. when the police interviewed her initially. even a patrol officer, they are going to go backward for at least 24 hours before the disappearance, possibly 48, 72, to see who she came in contact with. where does she go. where was the baby seen? let's think of the most important thing we have here. this is the on night the husband worked those hours at night. so the suspect would have to know that. he would have to have an intimate knowledge of the comings and goings of the family or surveil the family and she just happens to leave out she was at the grocery store five hours from the last time she saw her baby. this is important. where were the kids and why did

she leave it out. and most important, why can't she pass a polygraph. martha: she did not pass the polygraph test. her family says she is preparing to be arrested. we don't know where this is going to end up. good to see you as always. bill: he has surked to the top of the field an took heat from every side in last night's debate. her man canes our guest in moments. did he sell his plan on jobs? >> they want to pass what they think they can get passed rather than we need which is a bold solution. 9-9-9 is bold and the american people want a bold solution. ahh, one.

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it. martha: good nay tiewrd. shaking his head there. -- he's good natured. the latest poll numbers show herman cain jumping ahead, cementing a position in the top tier. herman cain joins me now. good to have you with us today. >> good morning, martha. have i told you lately that america's newsroom is one of my favorite shows? i'm happy to be here. martha: it's one of our favorite shows, too, that's no coincidence. i think you knew going in last night because you are doing well in the polls, everyone would turn their attention on you and the 9-9-9 plan. how do you think you responded to all that? >> i think i respond well because quite frankly we anticipated that.

representative michele bachmann's comment was cute, but she doesn't have a plan for economic growth and jobs. john huntsman's statement was cute but he doesn't have one either. governor romney's 165-page plan, he tried to throw off on my 9-9-9 plan because it was too simple. someone once said simplicity is genius. and i think this is why i got so many arrows last night relative to 9-9-9. it is a well thought out, well developed plan. martha: let's talk about that. at one point rick santorum asked the audience. does anybody want to pay a national sales tax? and does anybody believer income taxes in this country will be able to be kept to 9%? and nobody raised their hand. they seem to be coming along with him in that line of thinking. >> i was not surprised the audience didn't raise their hands for the following reason.

9-9-9 is a package. he asked them about individual components. they know that that's not how it works. so that really was an unfair question and i'm glad they didn't raise their hands. if you pull it out piece by piece, that's not the right question to ask. ther theoeer -- the other thing senator santorum said is it will never pass. that's the difference between a politician and a problem solver businessman. he wants to propose something he can get passed. i want to propose something 9-9-9 that solves the problem of boosting this company -- this economy. martha: you made a lot of attempts to differentiate yourself, as a businessman who has a practical way of looking at things and not accepting the norms as they are. when you were asked who your economicked a vialsors are, let's take a look at this.

>> my advisors come from the american people. one of my experts that helped me to develop this is a gentleman named rich lowry out of cleveland, ohio. he is an economist and he has worked in the business of wealth creation most of his career. i also have a number of well-recognized economists who helped me develop this 9-9-9 plan. martha: while you were answering that, mitt romney was getting his answer ready. let, look at mitt romney talking about hissed a vicors on the economy. >> gregg mancue at harvard and columbia. they were both former chairs of the economicked a vicors. i also talk to business leaders. people currently in the economy and the financial sector and manufacturing sector and on the basis of these varying viewpoints i make my decisions. martha: who do you think won

that answer? >> i believe i won that answer. what didn't come out with is when rich lowry and i developed this and we got input from people i will eventually mention who they are. i don't throw my friends under the bus. my undergraduate degree is in mathematics. this isn't an idea somebody brought to me that i didn't understand. i thoroughly understand it. which is why i'm able to answer the questions and take the attacks. governor romney and his answer with his plan, it goes to show that he's more politician than problem solver. he makes it long and complicated. the american people want something they can understand. my guiding principle is if the people understand it they will support it and demands it. that's how we are going to get it passed. martha: what mitt romney did is say he has both. business experience from his years at b air, n and as

governor of massachusetts can combine that political expertise along with his background in business, and though everybody so respects your lifetime accomplishments, that maybe that's not enough. >> well, the people that attend rallies, town hall meetings, they have a different idea. i respect governor romney and i respect -- he has had a successful business career. i distinguish the two of us between him being a wall street executive. i have been more of a mainstream executive because of the businesses i have worked with hands on throughout my business career. so the fact that he, you know, serves as governor,:00 p.m. but a lot of the people that listen to me at various events. they don't care that i haven't had any high-level government experience. they have really don't care. they care about my common sense approach. martha: that's been showing in your numbers. we'll talk to you more in the

show about your background and the way going forward for you. thank you so much. it's always a pleasure talk to you. we are glad to have you here this morning at america's newsroom. martha: very nice man. smart man and very interesting debate that we watched last night. you will talk to him more. bill: he has been the targets of so many attacks from african-american celebrities. how long has he been a republican? i will be surprised to hear the answer on that next hour. meanwhile the occupy wall street not manhattan, taking a road trip up town is the millionaire's march. protesters calling for an end of wall street greed. demonstrating outside the homes of some of the richest people in this country. people like rupert murdoch. >> my gripe is with a few of those people at the top. >> i don't appreciates the

bashing of all of the hard working people who live and work here and pay the taxes that support our city. jamie diamonds has brought more business to this city than maybe any other banker in modern day. to go into picket him, i don't know what that achiefs. >> what warren buffet said. it doesn't make any sense my secretary is paying higher rate than i am. bill: the mayor, michael bloomberg is a billionaire many times over. he was not on the list for the protest. he was at the protest a week ago throwing support for them. those comments yesterday seemed to contradict that. martha: michael bloomberg saying these people brought commerce to new york city. take a look at the market.

up 54 points. a decent open as everybody watches this plan out of europe to see if they can keep the banks from failing. that will have to grease the wheels of the global economy. keep yourize on the capital of slovakia. meanwhile, mitt romney scored the most coveted endorsements. chris christie throwing his support behind the governor. >> i think governor romney is the best candidate to beat barack obama next november. so first i belief that many the biggest reason support mitt romney.

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martha: good morning, everyone. a los angeles skyline, beautiful shot. this is a bizarre crime spree in pennsylvania dutch country. four amish men under arrest charged with kidnap and burglary. charged with break into amish homes and cutting off the beards of amish men and the hair of amish women. >> it has come to a screeching halt, i believe. march report suspects are being held on $250,000 bond. police say they expect even more arrests. bill: so mitt romney picks up a big endorsement from the man a lot of people wanted in the race in the first place.

new jersey governor chris christie says romney is the right man to lead the country. >> he would be on anyone's short list. but the truth is that governor christie is one of the leading figures in the republican party. anyone who bcts our nominee will look at people like governor christie and say he would be a terrific person to have on the ticket. >> governor romney is going earn it. that's what he's going to do and i'm going to help him and he's going win. i wouldn't be with him if he wasn't going win. he's going to win. bill: tucker carlson, alan colmes. gentlemen, good morning. you guys are so big we have to keep if you two different states. alan gets new york, tucker you get washington, d.c. what does it mean for romney and the race? >> the republican establishment has basically spoken, mit the pe

nominee from their point of view. the question is how much power dots republican establishment have. you have those saying they want someone other than romney. that would be conventional in the democratic party. but the republican party usually falls in line behind the front runner earlier i would think. and this portends a pretty protracted intense primary season for the republican party. bill: a primary season that could be based on the schedule, based on the way things are stack up. but back to your point. are you reflecting on the tea party opinion of what's happening on their view versus the establishment or more than that? >> the tea party is not sold. the tea party basically overthrough the republican establishment or threw it back

on its heels. there is more drama in this contest than any republican contest in my lifetime. bill: alan, how big a deal is this? >> it's a big deal. romney needs christie's coat tails. christie is the guy everyone wants to invite to the dance. but christie doesn't want to dance. it's interesting that conversation you played about vp. you have to wonder if a deal was struck with christie being vp. bill: alan, do you think he would take that deal? >> i can't speak for chris christie but he never said no to vp. >> he could have raised the money to run for president. he had private support and he chose not to run. that suggested he doesn't want to be in the national game so it's hard to see him taking the

vp slot. >> romney needs someone with coat tails on the bottom of the ticket. no one is excited about myth romney though he does well in the debates. >> he's running against an incumbent president who is acknowledged to have failed. by any metric with the unemployment rate, growth. >> that will be determined in the election. bill: my big question yesterday is why now? was he feeling the footsteps of guys like herman cain? or does he see a primary season that will be so shortened with florida going at end of january that forces new hampshire, iowa, south carolina to stack themselves you have in that month which could stretch for four or five weeks. >> the same by christie, i'm not running. i think romney would like to wrap this up sooner rather than later. >> of course he would.

i think they would all like to wrap it up soon were rather than later. but the authority you bring as someone even deergs candidate tends to dissipate. christie just got out last tuesday. within one week while the iron was hot he wanted to strike. bill: gentlemen, thank you. we'll keep you guys separated in different cities. for the love of god. gentleman, thanks. go to foxnews.com. click on the "bya" box. we are also on twitter@bill hemmer. you can vote or tucker or alan. martha: he announced a terror plot from iran. but there are other questions being thrown at attorney general eric holder. what he said about the new subpoenas being issued in "operation fast & furious." bill: rick perry needed a home run to bounce back from the

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bill: beaten to within an inch of his life. bryan stow is now out of the hospital. he will continue treatment for severe brain injuries. but doctors say he has a long road ahead of him, but he's making progress. >> he came here comatose on a gurney. day had a report back from the hospital that he has now gone to. one of my colleagues said she mentioned my name to brian and

he said, tell him i said hello. so i think that that's a dramatic improvement from where he started to where he is today. bill: two men are facing charge after the attack that happened outside of dodger staitd stadium in march in los angeles. both men pled not guilty. martha: he could be nearing the end of five years in captivity behind enemy lives. a soldier for the israeli defense force kidnapped by hamas militants in 2006 and hid on where in the gaza strip. but there may be a break in the negotiations for his release. >> it's not logic that they will keep the young boy as a hostage and bring so much suffering for many people. for us as a family and for many

other innocent people. martha: that's his far it. leland vittert joins us live from jerusalem *. what is retook this news? >> it's rare when you have the hebrew and arabic press excited about the same thing. this is the israeli daily. it says coming home and his parents who are clearly very happy. this year is the big arabic daily. it says from the west bank. deal made. here is a picture of one of the thousand palestinian prisoners with his family who will be released. on the left we have jerusalem, on the right we have the celebrations happening in gaza. this is for the nearly 1,000 palestinian prisoners, many of whom were some of the hardest fighters in the ini -- in the intifada who will be released.

this is a huge boost to hamas. the palestinian authority in the west bank has been playing by the rules. hamas goes ahead and kidnap an israeli soldier. hold him for five years, launch rockets at israel. that does a lot for hamas' street credibility and now they have 1,000 fighters back on the streets. martha: leland, thank you so much. bill: why was iran targeting sites in washington, d.c. the latest on the plan. the alleged suspects and what tehran is say being that. martha: herman cain lashing out to his critics on the issue of race. >> herman cain struck the first blow. he has done some good work. but you don't pick up votes by insulting people. martha: herman cain respond here

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martha: that is how we start this brand new hour of "america's newsroom.". wednesday morning i'm martha maccallum. bill: bill hemmer. busy day, right? a lot of people talked about mitt romney having a big night last night. analysts say this was a mitt romney moment with rick perry fading. here's a clip. >> still hypothetical as to what will precisely happen in the future. i'm not being good at omniscient. i will tell you this. i will not have to call up timothy geithner to say how the economy works? i spent my life in the economy. america is in crisis. we don't need to think about hypothetical if europe explodes and pulls us under. although if that does happen you want someone who is smart, who has experience

and who knows how the financial services sector works and who knows how to protect american jobs. i do and i have done it. martha: fascinating to watch how all that played out. joined by bret baier, anchor of "special report" with bret baier. >> good morning, martha. martha: the way those were put together i think it really reflects the strength of mitt romney's performance last night. he seen the second time around running for gop nomination, bret, if he has gotten a lot more comfortable in his own skin. i handled himself very well i think by most accounts. >> you're right, martha. most analysis say he comes out of this debate again a winner simply because no one laid a glove on him and he is able to get through some tough questions in a way that i guess, leaves him unscathed. and it is, basically, how he is approached these debates. he made significant headway each one. the question is, whether the gop primary voters are really buying into him yet.

he still has this ceiling in almost every poll, it is about 25, 26%. there seems like there is a real want or need to have someone who is not mitt romney as an option. herman cain has been that in recent days. could newt gingrich be the next? not mitt romney because of his performance in several debates? we'll have to see. martha: it is interesting, since you mentioned gingrich let's hop to that right now. he did very well last night as well. he is solid on his feet as he always has been. he seems to have in some ways relaxed into a role letting newt be newt and it seems to be working for him. >> i think you're right. i think every debate you watch, he comes off as the big thinker in the room, in the party. and also has some specific ideas, and that's, an important role to play, whether the electorate could get around gingrich candidacy is yet to be seen in the polls or individual states. i think, reach debate he is

seemed in control, and he seems as of late, to be a little bit in the mix more than he was at the beginning. martha: want to get a quick thought on rick perry. everybody talked about how much he needed to have a really solid win last night. doesn't look like he did that. he seemed, kind of, sitting back in his chair a little bit. not really in sort of forward running position last night. >> most people looking at this debate thought he had to have a big night and he did not have a big night. now his people and governor perry himself will say, listen, you're not going to elect debater in chief. this is not that important, these debates but you see they are because they framed this and they also give the electorate, the gop primary voters a sense whether you can go up against president obama in the general election. this could be a real problem for him. i will say one more thing, martha. ron paul is a constant in all these debates. he continues to plod along

and have good moments in debates. he obviously had some things that raised some eyebrows on foreign policy but on the economy he really did make a mark on herman cain about trying to link him to the federal reserve. martha: yeah. >> as a former member of the kansas city federal reserve and herman cain's answer about praising alan greenspan is getting a lot of attention that may, be a negative in his column. martha: ron paul shot back. he thought alan greenspan was the worst federal reserve chief in history. that was interesting moment last night. bret, thank you so much. always good to get your insight the morning after these things. let's ask our folks at home who they thought won last night. go to foxnews.com /americasnewsroom. weigh in and give us your thoughts. the question of the day so far, herman cain who we spoke to earlier and you hear from again in the show he is winning this unscientific poll of viewers out there. 38% say herman cain. 27% say ron paul. mitt romney at 16%. go online and tell us what

you thought and how you think the guys are stacking up and ladies are stacking up. bill: lines are open right now. there are new developments in a allegedly iranian-backed terror plot aimed at targets in washington, d.c. one man is in custody. another at large. both accused hiring a mexican drug cartel to assassinate the saudi am ambassador to the u.s. potentially officials argue taking out more than 100 innocent people. >> in addition to holding these individual conspirators for their alleged role in this plot the united states is committed to holding iran accountable for its actions. they are charged with conspiracy to murder a foreign official, conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction and conspiracy to commit an act of international terrorism among other charges. bill: that was the headline. catherine herridge follow up live in d.c. what is new this morning. >> thanks, bill. fox news conforming a short time ago there will be a special iran briefing later

today both on the house and senate side for members whose committees deal with iran and intelligence issues. one hour from now we're expecting comments from senior senator john mccain one of 92 senators called for increases economic sanctions on bank of iran back in august. the 56-year-old manssor arbabisar a u.s. citizen with iranian passports was arrested in jfk in new york. among the charges conspiracy to commit murder and conspiracy to commit act of international terrorism. a second member, one of iranian quds force is believed to be hiding in iran. chairman of the house intelligence committee made the case that the plot went to the top of the iranian regime. >> i'll tell you, this organization has more, u.s. blood on its hand than most of the other terrorist organizations recognized by the state department. we've got to do something about it. >> reporter: this morning the state department is warning quote, this iranian-backed plan to assassinate the saudi

ambassador may indicate a more aggressive focus by iranian government to include possible attacks in the united states. two senior intelligence firms told me the plot doesn't feel quite right. this seems to go against iran's pattern. one official said enlist "the a-team" rather than a narc cocartel for the mission? we need to develop this to determine if it has broader significance. bill. bill: closer look at alleged planners of this plot. iran quds force. that answers directly to iran's supreme leader ayatollah khomeni. they provide support to iranian backed terror groups from lebanon to the west bank. they are known to operate a worldwide intelligence network searching out and buying wmd technology. when we have more developments we'll get it to you. martha. martha: this fox news alert right now. this just in from the trial of the alleged christmas underwear bomber, umar

farouk abdulmutallab changing his plea to guilty. mike tobin live with breaking news in detroit. mike, what is going on in there. >> reporter: the martha the transcript came out of the courtroom moments ago. judge nancy edmonds asked farouk abdulmutallab if he wishes to plead guilty the answer in open court was yes. he is pleading guilty to all eight charges he faces for the apparent attempted bombing of christmas flight intended to arrive here in detroit, that you know now the detonation fizzled. there are eight different charges. they're running down the charges. judge nancy edmonds is making certain that umar farouk abdulmutallab understands what he is doing. understands his rights and understands chs after they elected not to present a defense, defense team elected not to present opening argument yesterday in court. looked like the government had a very solid case against the defendant in this case. i spoke with the attorney, anthony chambers or standby

attorney anthony chambers yesterday. he promised there would be a big development in court this morning. they convened court this morning after arriving here at the federal building. immediately recessed for some discussions behind closed doors and now we see that they have changed the plea to guilty. martha? martha: big development. thank you very much. mike tobin in detroit. bill: meanwhile mitt romney is calling out the perry campaign saying they need to denounce a dallas pastor who called mormonism a cult. orrin hatch with more on that and the race for the white house and how religion fits into all this next coming up. martha: newt gingrich looking to score points with the candidates last night rather than the voters? we're going to explain that. >> part two of our interview with a hopeful, white house hopeful herman cain under attack by african-american leaders in america as he surges in the polls. his response to all the criticism. >> i will not be brainwashed. i will not just follow the democrat liberal line. that's what it is. and only thank he is trying to do is not only try to

intimidate me and shut me up, you see how well that is working. that is just not going to work.

bill: worst environmental disaster in decades might be getting worse. that is trouble. in a big way. a massive crack in the hull spewing oil into the water. i just today the ship's captain was charged with reckless operation. the main concern is that the ship might break apart and sink, spilling even more oil on all those containers into the open water. and that is beautiful country. best of luck there. martha: get back to politics now. a presidential candidate mitt romney wants governor rick perry to publicly reject attacks made against his path. pastor robert jeffers sparked controversy when he

called mormonism a cult during a campaign event for rick perry. here is romney's response. take a look. >> i just don't that that kind of divisiveness based on religion has a place in this country. i believe in the spirit the founders when they suggested in crafting this country we would be a nation that tolerated other people, different faiths. that we would be a place of religious diversity and, respect, they, embodied in the constitution itself. and i would call upon governor perry to repudiate the sentiment and the remarks made by that pastor. martha: we are joined now by senator orrin hatch of utah who is also a mormon. he is ranking member on the senate finance committee and, senator hatch, thank you for being here with us this morning. always good to see you, sir. >> nice to be with you. martha: curious what your reaction to the whole back and forth between pastor jeffers from the perry campaign and what mitt romney had to say about it? >> well, to be honneth with

you the name of the church is not mormon. it is the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints. mormons fervently believe in jesus christ. he is our personal savior. we're some of the biggest supporters of israel and modern arabs and islamic people today. we have a real breath of love for everybody. and i have to say that it is pretty hard for anybody with brains to say that the mormon church, that is our nickname, is, that the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints is not a believer of jesus christ. the minister is a nice man. i have no doubt that he believes what he is saying. i just think that bill bennett summed it all very well the other day. martha: let me ask you this. i recently have thought about the fact that the first time mitt romney ran, there was a lot of discussion about this. it was on the cover of magazines. >> right. martha: and i thought, well, have we moved beyond that as a nation and is it, you know, a positive sign that this

really has not come up in the whole discussion about mitt romney. why do you think it has resurfaced now? >> well, i don't know. and i, frankly, wish it hadn't because it's not right. you know, the constitution in article 6 says there should be no religious test for office. and i think good christians, we're all christians and people of other faiths ought to acknowledge that and realize that, hey, we should pick people based on their ability to do the job as president, not on whether they're supportive of one religion or another. but it is awfully good to pick people like mitt romney who have a tremendously valuable and decent life. who literally lives his religion. and who, you don't have to worry about scandal with mitt romney or his wife or his family. i know the boys as well. they're just all super people. i think we ought to judge people what they can do for our country and not necessarily what their

personal beliefs are. martha: we should point out rick perry's son this morning came out and he believes that mormonism or the church of the latter-day saints is not a cult. we will see if that suffices, you know in terms of rectifying that statement. >> well, i appreciate both rick perry and his son saying that because, it is certainly not a cult. it is the fourth largest church in america today and, like i say, the name of the church is the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints. there is reason for the name because we're fervent believers in christ. martha: we're happy to give your thoughts on that because you're such a prominent person within that faith and we thank you for your thoughts on it. i do want to move onto the jobs bill though. >> sure. martha: which did not even make it past the procedural segment in the senate last night. and now, joe biden this morning, the vice president was on some of the morning talk shows today, he basically said look, at this point we'll have to break this thing down and we're going to find out if

republicans are in favor of things like payroll tax cuts, and, you know, huge infrastructure, $175 billion to be spent on infrastructure, we're going to see if that is difficult for them to turn down in the public forum. what do you say about that? >> when are they going to quit playing crass politics? everybody knew the democrats themselves were not going to support the president's bill as written and they wouldn't even support the bill with harry reid's millionaire surtax that would hit 34% of all pass-through income would be attacked by that that means small businesses that would wreck our country and make us more into debt and make us more into the recession we are right now. i wish they could quit playing politics and start talking about what is doing what is right for our country. martha: let me ask you a quick question. i have want to ask you this quickly. >> sure. martha: we herd last night a lot of from gop candidates about repatriating funds and repeal of obamacare which they think are engines for

job growth in this country and real tax reform. why are we not hearing more about those things from congress? >> because we have the senate dominated by democrats and they're moving ahead on anything unless it benefits them. they don't even allow amendments. that is what happened last week on a very, very important bill they wouldn't even allow amendments even though the president supported my substitute amendment or at least hadn't indicated, white house indicated they support it. look the senate should be a place where you have these debates. where you can really look at all these matters carefully and not just be a place where you fill up parliamentary tree and say take it or leave it which is what the democrats are doing here. and they're doing it on behalf of the president and doing it because there are 24 democrats up for re-election and only 10 republicans. they just don't want to have to face amendments that might not be, might not be what they want to face. martha: thank you so much, senator hatch. always good to see you, sir. >> nice to talk to you. bill: about 20 minutes past the hour now. breaking news on the nation's top prosecutor.

fox news confirming subpoenas are out with regard to that botched federal gun-running sting. some top lawmakers that the attorney general might have misled congress. how is the ag responding now? the judge will rule. martha. martha: hear is the best story of the day. have you seen this one. look at this thing. a family walks into a corn maze and can not get out. their frantic 911 calls. listen to this. >> i don't see anybody. i'm really scared and really dark and three week old baby with us. >> relax. calm down. your husband is with you right? >> yes. i don't know what made us do this. it was day time when we came in.

bill: breaking news right now. fox news confirms now that the subpoenas are out for the attorney general and

members of his staff in the department of justice. all this relating to the "fast & furious" investigation. there are members of congress who believe the attorney general may have either misled or flat-out lied when he knew about the program underway. i want to bring in the judge andrew napolitano. on the breaking news. fox news senior judicial analyst and host of "freedom watch" on fox business network. how are you doing job. >> good bill, how does this change the course of the investigation? >> this makes it a lot more serious because when congress sieves a subpoena on someone no matter who they are, even president of the united states when you recall president nixon attempted to avoid or evade a subpoena. congress invokeses the federal courts of washington, d.c. to enforce the subpoena. there is very little wiggle room there is very little opportunity the attorney general has to avoid complying with the subpoena. it of is out as william la jeunesse reported. i saw it.

it is comprehensive. deamends tens of thousand of pages of documents. only way the attorney general can decline the to produce documents to invoke the executive privilege. which means he discussed issue in the document with the president. only way he can not comply with the subpoena is to throw his boss under the bus and don't look for that. >> eric holder will be back on capitol hill answering questions. >> after the staff has gotten the 10,000 or more documents and examined all of them. then they will summon the attorney general back and say you told us you just learned about this three weeks before we asked you. did you know this, this, and this? because we have all the e-mails showing that you received this information. bill: got it. from yesterday's press conference now, this is called for a different event. it was the threat on certain interests in washington, d.c. launched by iranian forces. >> right. bill: that was the topic for the press conference. at the very end of it, the attorney general was asked about this. >> we have sent thousands of pages of documents up to the hill.

we'll look at subpoenas. i'm sure we will undown the i had are comply with them. what the american people will understand in complying with those subpoenas and dealing with that inquiry that will not detract us from important business we have to do at justice department including matters like the one we have announced today. thank you. bill: that was the end of the press conference essentially. >> right. bill: you think you can make an argument that that news from yesterday with regard to iran and saudi arabia was designed to blunt the news or the subpoena or the issue itself? >> at very moment he was holding that press conference yesterday a 40-page document was being filed in the united states district court in manhattan which is simply an affidavit by an fbi agent swearing to the truthfulness of everything in it. that affidavit reveals what they revealed yesterday, they have known for the past 11 days. bill: no problem. >> but that means they could have revealed the information yesterday that somebody was attempting to kill the saudi ambassador in united states in washington or new york and blow up

embassies and kill innocents as well anytime they wanted in the past 11 days or in the succeeding 11 days. bill: now you could, but i could argue there is still a man at large and that would blow a hole in the investigation with if you went public with it. >> the man at large is in iran. we don't have extradition treaty in iran and short of invading iran there is no practical way to get him. if they revealed it yesterday the day the subpoena was announced to blunt the effect of subpoena or did they reveal it yesterday because that was the argument. bill: william la jeunesse is it with us now. martha: this is the breaking story of the hour. let's go to william la jeunesse on top of the story from the very beginning. he has new details on the subpoena that has now been released, right, william? >> reporter: that's right, martha. i'm looking five to six pages delineating what the subpoena requires and is asking for. number one, 16 different employees, top officials at the justice department.

number two, any and all communications between the executive office of the president and department of justice. they also want to know who prepped the president for his interview with univision, a spanish language television station in mexico city, for his interview with them in march where the president said that neither he nor the attorney general authorized this or knew about this program at the time. also, all examples of prior times when the doj and the atf knew that agents were allowed to let guns walk or not interdict them. also any and all communications between the u.s. attorney's office in phoenix which basically directed this program, and those individuals at the department of justice. it goes through a number about of names i won't bore you with. these are very important people, very high up in the organization at the u.s. attorney's office. communications there. and finally communications between the embassy in mexico city as well as washington. it is a very comprehensive

s&p. i will put it at that martha? martha: certainly is very interesting things they're requesting there. we know eric holder yesterday basically said he complied with everything. a lot of redactions in the first round. we'll see where it goes. william, thank you very much. we want to just mention politics once again because that has been a busy topic of this morning. one of the big questions about newt gingrich last night and whether he was playing nice with everybody at the debate. could he be trying to win over the other candidates and possibly to what end? bill: what do you think about that? martha: we'll talk about that. bill: herman cain is not holding back. in just three minutes his take on issues of race in this campaign and rest of the country and his reaction to this comment from tavis smiley. roll it. >> when you tell the poor, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. when you start making those kinds of comments you should expect to have americans push back on you.

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bill: so herman cain's firing back at some african-american leaders who argue that he, cape, is out of touch with reality. l princeton professor cornell west called him out saying cain, quote, needs to get off the symbolic crack pipe. i talked with herman cain about that and more. good morning, it's good to have

you on "america's newsroom". >> good morning, bill, happy to be here. bill: apparently, the poverty tour landed on "the o'reilly factor" last night. and when your name came up, you became a target. i'm going to play you a little clip, rather from tavis smiley, and we'll get you to react to this. first, from last night. roll this. >> let's be clear about this. herman cain struck the first blow. when you tell black folk that they're brainwashed, when you tell the poor if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself, when you start making those kinds of comments, you should expect to have americans push back on you. bill: wow. there was a lot said there about pushback, about race in america. i want to get you to react to what smiley said. herman cain struck the first blow. when did you do that? >> i made the statement, when asked why do a lot of black americans vote democrat, and the statement that i made was too many of them are brainwashed.

the good news is, a lot of them are thinking for themselves. and so i made the distinction between those that do think for themselves, who look at ideas even if they are conservative ideas coming from someone like me versus those that are brainwashed who won't even consider another idea coming from someone else. now, let's correct that other statement that he made. my statement about people being poor wasn't talking about poor americans. i was talking about the wall street demonstrators. that was where that statement was targeted. not at all poor people. not at the 14 million people that are currently unemployed. so they totally took that statement out of context because the only tactic that they have, bill s to try and attack -- is to try and attack me because i'm a conservative as well as to get into the name calling. bill: smiley says you tell black folk they're brainwashed, those are his words, you tell the poor if you don't have a job, you're not rich, blame yourselves.

and you just addressed that. harry belafonte called you a bad apple. what do you think he means by that? >> well, what harry belafonte means is that i am one of these black people who wandered and ran away from the democrat plantation, and so he calls me a bad apple because i will not be brainwashed, i will not just follow the democrat liberal line. that's what it is. and the only thing that he's trying to do is not only try to intimidate me and shut me up -- you see how well that's working. that's just not going to work. the second thing that he's trying to do is to intimidate other black people from expressing a different point of view or even looking at another point of view. that's all that was. it doesn't bother me. bill: you have really started a national conversation. have you been a republican all your life? or why today, why are you republican? >> i used to vote democrat

because i grew up in the '50s and the '60s and because of the civil rights push because democrats, quote-unquote, co-opted credit for the civil rights back to 1964 and the voting rights act of 965. -- 1965. so i voted democrats for a lot of years. now, when i became a ceo at godfathers, i realized that all of the things that could cause a company to fail that had nothing to do with what was going on inside the company, that's when i took a closer look -- as a business other than, as a ceo -- of just what the government was doing to hurt business in america. bill: interesting. >> then i recognized -- bill: was that ten years ago or twenty? >> that was in 1986, so it was more than ten years ago. bill: you've already said -- >> that's when i started to make the migration. bill: right. if you were the remin nominee, you would get one-third of the black vote in america.

now, that's a heck of a statement. how do you arrive at that number? >> i arrived at that one-third number, bill work the ways. first, when i was doing my radio show in atlanta for five years, and it was a call-in show, i would get a lot of black people who would call in unsolicited, identified themselves as black americans and that they liked the ideas and the proposals i was presenting even before i decided to run for office. and so i know that a lot of people out there are conservative in their thinking, and they don't have a problem supporting someone who presents good ideas even though i'll be running as a republican. the second way that i believe that i'm going to get that vote is because when i go to rallies if i'm traveling, in restaurants, in this hotels, i have black people coming up to me and say to me -- and they'll almost say it quietly because some of 'em are almost embarrassed. they'll say, i am not brainwashed. i think for myself. i like your ideas. so i get it anecdotally.

now, there was a poll that came out a couple of days ago that showed that 24% of the people in that poll who were black said that they could vote for herman cain because of the strength of my ideas, so i feel good about the direction we're moving. bill: we will see in time whether or not you get that opportunity to prove yourself right in the nomination fight. herman cain, thank you for your time out of new hampshire this morning. thank you, sir. >> it's a pleasure, bill. thank you. bill: it's good to have him on and get his reaction because he has truly started a national conversation. martha: he absolutely has. bill: on the right, on the left, among white americans and african-americans. herman cain is, he's in the middle of that conversation, his voice is important. martha: and working to break down the notion that african-americans vote as a bloc in this country, and he's done a lot of work towards that, so it was very good to have him on today, and we'll be talking to him again in the near future. and this story is my favorite story of the day. they could not find their way out. a day of fun turns into one family's nightmare.

look at this maze, first of all. phil bill yep. martha: i could see how you might get lost in there. listen to this frantic 191 call -- 911 call. in a little while. [laughter] bill: i'll imitate it for you. we're trapped, and we can't get up. newt gingrich packing plenty of punches, was he trying to impress more than just the voters, we wonder? roll this. >> there's a stream of american thought that really wishes we would decay and fall apart and that the future would be bleak so the government could then share the misery. it's captured every week by barack obama and his apology disguised as press conferences. [laughter] ♪

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bill: you're trapped in a corn maze, and you're calling for help, and it's only three weeks before halloween. usually takes about an hour to get through this field in massachusetts, but for one family think lost their way once

it turned dark. thankfully, they had a cell phone, and now we can hear that call to police. bill: and daytime turned tonight time. police went in with the farm manager, they found that family only 25 feet from freedom. [laughter] a little embarrassed. martha: i love it when she says, my husband is with me, but he's of absolutely no help at all. [laughter] my husband is useless. [laughter] oh, boy. all right, pull it together. here we go. all right, back to politics now, folks, on a more serious note. newt gingrich did not hold back during last night's debate, he took digs at president obama which he usually does, but he also kind of made sure he was complimenting his fellow

competitors along the way. watch some of it. >> there's a stream of american thought that really wishes we would decay and fall apart and that the future would be bleak so the government could then share the misery. it was captured by jimmy carter, it's captured every week by barack obama in his apologies disguised as press conferences. [laughter] the fact is, and the governor's exactly right, when we get back -- i mean, a lot of these folks are right about a lot of things. his energy plan, most of what he put down. a fair amount but not totally what my good friend said there, hard money with a very limited federal reserve. what huntsman's done -- >> repealable. >> she's right on repealing dodd-frank. martha: she wanted to make sure she also got credit at the end of the table. frank luntz joins me now, he's the author of "win," he's also a pollster, as you well know, and

is the ceo of luntz global. hey, frank. >> hey, you know, there is no one out there that has a greater greater -- [inaudible] than newt gingrich, and some polls now show him this double digits. it took time. let's face it, the beginning of his campaign was very weak, and he didn't get a chance to show what he knows and what he can do because everybody was focused on the disaster of the process. but with these debates, every single debate has gone up a percent or two in the polls, and that's because he really is, he's brilliant. and the point i would make is he got more applause last night than any other candidate, and it's not because he's delivering cute quips, it's because he's saying things that republican primary voters agree with. martha: yeah. and as you point out, there was a time when people thought right after he started that his whole campaign was going to fall apart. he said, no, we're in this for the long haul, and indeed, so far he seems to be. questions about whether or not he would be a vice presidential

candidate on somebody's ticket cropping up as well. we'll keep all of that in check as we watch the process. but i want to get you to this ad, frank. this is a perry ad, and let's watch it, and then we'll see what frank thinks about it. ♪ >> i will not create jobs or hold jobs that kill people. and that -- [applause] that plant kills people. ♪ muck. ♪ muck. ♪ >> under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. martha: you know, we were

confused. >> doesn't work. martha: right here in the studio, frank, and it looks like the folks were who were playing with the dials there as well. >> and we did this with both republicans and democrats for a reason. the places where this ad is airing -- iowa, new hampshire and even on the web -- these are places that republicans need to win in 2012. and what i don't understand, and i listened to the debate last night, and we've watched all of them with our instant response sessions, is that rick perry has an incredible record as governor of texas. why is he spending so much time attacking mitt romney? republican primary voters want to vote for something. they want to vote for tax relief, they want to vote for cutting wasteful goth spending, and they don't like it when these candidates go and attack each other. it's the reason why perry went from 31% in some polls down to the teens. he did some amazing things in terms of jobs, spending, accountability, energy, so why are you focused on beating up on

mitt romney? i think it's one of the reasons why his numbers are so weak. and i want to go back to what happened last night. romney's made a clear contest between himself and barack obama. viewers are looking for that. martha: interesting. yeah, perry's using his money on ads like that, he ought to do it really show what he can do and what he did in texas. frank, thank you. always good to see you. bill: what are you working on, gregg? gregg: breaking terror news, the underwear bomber says he is guilty of trying to blow up a u.s.-bound airplane, this as the state department warning americans be on alert for possible terror attacks after we learned iran is involved in a plot against america. plus, some breaking news on fast and furious, and up to hall usa on -- town hall usa on what to do about the economy. go to fox news/"happening now," want to hear from you.

bill: got it, gregg, see you at the top of the hour. an expert witness in michael jackson's trial about the doctor life in l.a. with details on that. martha: and why college professor is under fire for telling a student to be quiet. >> what happened in the class room was unacceptable, and we have and will continue to deal with that as appropriate.  you wouldn't want your doctor doing your job. so why are you doing hers? only your doctor can determine if your persistent heartburn is actually something more serious... like acid reflux disease. over time, stomach acid can damage the lining of your esophagus. for many, prescription nexium

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martha: well, this one is not exactly heart warming, folks. around college student in new jersey was told to keep quiet because he stutters. he is 16 years old. phillip garber, he was attending college classes. he's home schooled. and then he got an e-mail from his professor after only three classes asking him to, please,

keep quiet so he doesn't infringe on other people's times. garber takes a couple college courses while being home schooled complain today the president and was move today a different class. he says he is no different from any other student. watch this. >> people that stutter, we are people too. martha: well, it raises the question how is he supposed to sort of move beyond and speak publicly over the course of his life if he's not allowed to do that in school? the college president is not saying how or if this professor will be disciplined, but phillip says he would be the loudest voice for her to keep her job. how about that? bill: michael jackson's doctor claims that jackson died when he gave himself a dose of prescription medication, but an expert witness in the trial says that he just doesn't buy that story. claudia cowan's live in l.a. on this.

what happens today to either back that up or refute it? >> reporter: well, today, bill, jurors will learn everything they could ever possibly want to know about that powerful anesthetic, propofol, the deadly weapon in the case against michael jackson's personal doctor. the prosecution expected to call upon experts on this drug to explain how it's used and the potential dangers when it is administered to a patient outside of a hospital setting which is exactly what happened in the michael jackson case. now, there was critical testimony to this point yesterday as the l.a. county medical examiner who performed jackson's autopsy testified he could find no evidence that the singer gave himself a lethal dose of propofol, punching big holes in the defense's theory that that's precisely how jackson died. dr. christopher rogers testified that it's his belief dr. conrad murray, in an effort to help his one and only superstar client battle insomnia, may have given jackson too much propofol before

he left jackson's bedside for two minutes to use the restroom. >> the theory that seems less reasonable to me is that mr. jackson woke up and, although he was under the influence of sedative medications, managed to give himself another dose. >> reporter: rogers testified that jackson, who was 50 when he died, was healthier than most people his age, but the defense has argued the singer was frequently using a number of different sedatives to help him get to sleep including this propofol which is, ultimately, the drug that killed him according to the coroner's report which also ruled that the manner of death is homicide. bill: claudia cowan, we'll see where the trial goes today. beginning shortly. martha: siding with the wall street protesters, is it wise for some democrats to align themselves with these proo testers, and is there a danger if republicans dismisthem?t coming up.a

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