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>> brian: the ohm man that could ever beat up bill o'reilly, hulk hogan is here. >> i think he's bigger than me. >> gretchen: he might be able to take you. >> he's a monster. >> gretchen: log on for the after the show show. have a great day. bye. bill: herman cain now in a a is i cal dead heat -- now in a statisticsal dead heat with mitt romney. it's a rainy day in new york. martha: herman cain nobody can deny is a top-tier candidate. he says voters aren't necessarily looking for somebody with political experience. they want somebody who can get
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us on track. >> i respect mr. romney. he had a successful business career. he was a wall street executive, i was more a mainstream executive because of the businesses i worked with hands on throughout my business career. a lot of people that listen to me at various events they don't care that it haven't had high-level government experience. they care about my common sense approach. bill: that's what he has to sell, so far, steve centanni, it's working for him. >> reporter: this is the first major poll showing cain in the lead. it's the latest shakeup in a race with lots of ups and downs. here is how it looks. cain on top in this nbc-"wall
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street journal" poll. mitt romney the former front runner in second place with 23%. but it's very close considering the margin of error. rick perry third with 16%. ron paul has 11%. the other candidates single digits. his good showing at recent debates as he hammered home his 9-9-9 plan. at the same time perry slipped and romney has stayed just about the same at 23%. cain went from 5% in the same poll in august all the way up to the top. bill: we see wild movements depending upon the candidate. can cain hold on? >> reporter: lots of twists and turns to this race.
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mitt romney has been the front runner in most of the polls but we have seen a lot of volatility in the field. first donald trump, then rick perry, now herman cain. one of the pollsters who worked on this data said it may not be the only shakeup in the race and there is a long long time to go. bill: thank you, steve. martha: no matter who wins the nomination they will have to contend with these jobs numbers. the number of people filing for unemployment benefits last week inching down from if the previous week but just barely. 404,000 americans applied for unemployment benefits last week. stuart, it's hard to call this a
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big improvement. >> reporter: it's not a big improvement. it's a grim number. for almost every week the past three years that number has been above 400,000. that paints a grim picture of the unemployment in the u.s. the average time out of work is 40 1/2 weeks. the under employment rate is now 16.5%. there is also a politicized arena. jobs a political issue. let me throw this final number at you. you need 270,000 new jobs each and every month between now and the election in november of next year if you want to get the unemployment rate down to the crisis level of 8%. to get it down that low you need under 300,000 jobless claims
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each week and we are nowhere near it. martha: you can only imagine as the president's strategists look at these numbers when they need to prove they are pushing us in the right direction. it's a tough sell, isn't it? >> reporter: it's an extremely tough sale. most analysts are saying the 9% rate will last all the way through next year. you can't fight numbers like that very easily. martha: stuart, thank you so much. watch for stuart on fbn. let's look at where these job numbers are and where the numbers should be to be in what would be considered a healthy economy. the first brand-new numbers we got for the first time unemployment benefits came in at 404,000. for a healthy economy that number would be coming in somewhere around here.
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375,000 for those weekly claims. we have been above the 400,000 number for the 160 of the last 169 weeks. the current unemployment rate is 9.1%. in a healthy economy you would be way down here at 6%. it has been above 9% for basically most of the last couple years. according to the numbers we are seeing it will stay that way for the 12-14 months heading into the election. bill: new information after multiple people were shot in seal beach, california. witnesses say a gunman walked into a hair salon, opened fire, six people dead at the scene, two others died in hospital and one more in critical condition. the locals in seal beach say they are horrified.
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>> i think i lost some friends in there. i'm in shock because one of my friends -- i have known her for 25 years. she is a wonderful person. the whole salon had a wonderful spirit in there. it's a tragedy for all of them, all of us in seal beach. bill: here is the suspect. he was captured about a half mile away. friends of the salon owner say he's the ex-husband of a stylist who was working there. casey, good morning. >> reporter: bill, can you imagine people were back here behind me getting their hair and nails done when all of that was disrupted by gunfire, a very horrific story we are continuing to follow this morning. the hair salon remains a crime scene, back behind me in this busy shopping plaza as police piece together what went
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terribly wrong. police do not believe this was a random incident. investigators say this may have been an incident involving a man inning a long-time custody dispute with one of the salon workers and that apparently prompted him to walk into this crowded salon yesterday and open fire. 6 people dying at the scene and two others died from their injuries. some escaping unharmed. police arresting 42-year-old scott decry not far from the crime scene, headed to a residential area in huntington beach. when police arrested him they say he was wearing body armor and had unspent shells in his pockets. >> i'm extremely shocked. he's super friendly, always seems happy.
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>> reporter: the salon has been here more 20 years. this news rocked this small coastal community of 25,000 people. this is the worst mass shooting we understand in orange county history. bill: 6:00 in the morning before sunup there in california. what a tragedy there. martha: federal health officials are confirming two new deaths linked to the national listeria outbreak. the death now at 23 people. this is the largest in history. it started with tainted cantaloupes grown in colorado. but 12 deaths have been attributed to that outbreak.
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bill: in oakland, california, reports say a train went through a red signal. one passenger saying he felt an awful jolt and impact. all the injuries appear to be minor. martha: those are just a few of the stories we are following for you in "america's newsroom." we have the new job numbers not getting any better. not good news for the folks in washington or across the country. how do americans feel about the direction of this country right now? we have stunning poll numbers on that. bill: she is 4'7", 70 years old. why is she punching a teenager on a bus? martha: long live the king. the british government look at changing a 300-year-old law. this is interesting, folks.
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martha: a hazardous chemicals truck running off the highway under construction. it spilled some unknown yellow fluid you can see in the back of that picture. first responders say the truck may have been carrying aviation fuel for turbine engines but they haven't been able to confirm that. bill: how do you feel about where mayor case headed. there are new and disappointing poll numbers. 74% of those asked say we are heading in the wrong direction and few have much hope for tour economy to get bet -- for our
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economy to get better. only 17% we are head in the right direction. are you in the 74% or 17%? >> i'm in the position of wishing the american people had a better future. right now things look pretty dire. you have 21% of the people thinking the economy will be better a year from now. that's pretty pessimistic. bill: our own fox polling found something that was just as high. it was during the financial fallout. we were at 74% back then. we are back in that area three years later. what does the that tell you. >> it means every administration reaches a wall they can't seem to punch through. the bailouts are very unpopular. three years into it, the optimism that greeted the obama
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administration has dissipate. only 30% of people want barack obama's new job creations package to pass. when only 30% support the president's position after he has been out on the stum temperature for a month, that's not getting -- has been out on the stump for a month. they are saying we heard a lot of promises and nothing is happening. unemployment is still over 9% and you said it would be under 8% guaranteed. that's why the president's poll numbers are continuing to stagnate and continuing to fall. with a year to go, i think people are upset this campaign has started in full swing because i don't think most people think this campaign is of direct relevance to them. with the exception of herman cain people aren't hearing the
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solutions to get out of this. bill: they found the polling for the "wall street journal" 44% had no opinion. the reason we bring this up so our viewers know. every presidential cycle. you can point to one statistic or one set of numbers. right track or wrong track and trying to figure out whether a president will be reelected or someone new will come into office. that right track-wrong track will tell you more about how americans feel about their country than any other poll. would you agree or disagree. >> historically that has been the case. some people aren't even paying attention enough to have an opinion which is dangerous for a president because yes in theory he could convince them his plan is the answer. but he has had a month -- almost five weeks to talk about it and
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it's not moving the needle. bill: 1% said the government was healthy. we are going to find that 1% and put them on tv. thanks for coming in today. martha: there is new trouble with a billion dollar government loan investment that is being looked into but we want to take you to this live shot outside the white house as we get ready for a state visit. we'll continue to show you the ceremony there. a beautiful shot as we wait for that to get underway. we'll talk to you about this business that has been coming out of the white house as well. new trouble with a billion dollar government loan to a solar company which is raising questions about whether the federal government should be investing in these companies at all. bill: 70-year-old woman against a 14-year-old boy. wait until you hear what
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bill: a 70-year-old bus monitor, the monitor on the bus now facing charges. accused of attacking a 14-year-old boy. that boy seen league punch against a younger child. she then punches and slaps the 14-year-old. we are told she put him in a headlock. while she acknowledges it was not appropriate, she does not
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believe she broke the law. attorneys saying that 14-year-old is a troublemaker anyway. martha: a royal shakeup in great britain. the prime minister is pushing a plan that would change the rules about who can and cannot sit on the english thrown. this is big stuff in london. this has been talked about, there have been rumblings about making this kind of change. >> big stuff indeed. one royal expert says it's long overdue. the rules have been in effect for 300 years. namely that male children have residence over older sisters. if the first child of the duke and dutchess of cambridge is a daughter, she could become queen. they wouldn't have to wait around to have a son.
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he also wants to scrap a ban for anyone who marries a roman catholic. the monarch here is the head of the church of england. martha: two of the greatest leaders on the thrown, the two queen elizabeths, both women, but they didn't have a big brother. so you have charles, then you go onto the child of kate and william. a lot of royal families have gone to this model where whoever is born first gets the spot, right? >> reporter: exactly. so england will fall in line with others. it won't be easy, however. david cameron wants to appear modern and curry favor with women in england. but what he's got to do is legislatively expensive for the time standpoint. 6 different acts of parliament have to change to get this to happen. he also has to get 15 other
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countries in the u.k. commonwealth to go along with this. past prime ministers brown and blair tried to do this and they failed. first up, prince charles, then prince william succession would stay in place. the queen tries to stay out of political affairs. martha: gregg, thank you very much. bill: not to be confused with tea time. a major health warning. the drug you might need may not be available for you at the hospital or through your doctor. martha: this story is getting company kateed. there is new trouble for yet another these solar energy companies. this new company is in the spotlight for this billion dollar loan. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables?
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martha: the obama obama administration under pressure to explain why another massive government loan got into the hands of a struggling solar energy company. there is another company called sun power under the microscope in a similar way to solyndra.
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they got $1.2 billion. double what solyndra got. 300 total construction jobs were created that were supposed to go over a 25-year period. 12-15 perm snant jobs were said to be created by this -- permanent jobs were said to be created by this. it raises a huge is it worth it question. joined by a utah congressman chaffetz. you said this would be the case. that solyndra would be thehe tip of the iceberg. >> we were worried there were $9 billion we had questions about. now you have three companies.
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the value of the taxpayer dollars going to these companies is $4.7 billion. money paid out and authorized on the very last day of the program. which begs the question as congressman darrell issa pointed out in a letter to the energy department. why did this happen? how did you let this happen? martha: it raises questions about whether there are links to powerful people who said we are shutting down this program. but we want to get you guys some money on the way out the door. is there any indication this is what happened? >> there are question marks and i do not want to disparage one of my distinguished colleagues. congressman miller's son is a lobbiest for the company, then you have the interior secretary go to bat for the company and
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they get a loan from the white house and the government. you can see why there are questions. martha: the bottom line is these programs were sold as a way to create jobs in the country. you have to look at mathematics. if you have got a $1.2 billion loan that shakes down to 12-15 jobs. that's a price tag of $80 million for created job. you have to ask yourself if the government is spending that money efficiently at all. >> you can add literally by the tens of thousands jobs in the energy sector. in utah by opening up the permitting process. down on the gulf and other places where we should be accelerating those things to groa jobs. i think this is part of a bigger green agenda where they are focused on developing solar. but you are talking about waste,
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fraud and abuse in the billions of dollars and it's just not acceptable. martha: i was listening to one of our reporters earlier and he was talking about the market and how they perceived this company. people were shorting this stock because they save the as a classic situation where the headlines in the company would attract investors but in the end they didn't think it could bear fruit. so they were buying the stock and selling it short. isn't this something they ought to look twice at? >> the debt ray show to market capitalization was unacceptable to a lot of people. then a french company came in and purchased the bulk of this company. now we have given it to a french company. this is not what washington, d.c. should be doing. the white house should not be picking winners and losers. that's up to the marketplace.
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martha: making judgments on these companies has been historically difficult for analysts to dient proves to be difficult in washington to do as well. congressman chaffetz, thank you. bill: it's 6:30 in portland, oregon, but getting word of arrests there in the occupy wall street protests. the numbers that could be arrested. this follows up amendment pell arrests on the east coast 15-minute new york had 700 arrests. in boston we had 100 there. we are following what's happening in portland and we'll get you information on that as we move throughout the morning. in the meantime in washington, a congressman went on the record to explain why he issues subpoenas to the department of justice. congressman darrell issa seeking
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all documents between attorney general eric holder, his deputies and the white house about the botches program known as "operation fast & furious." >> i can't say there is no resistance, but we know he's going have to clear the air by answering fully and completely what he knew and when he knew it and why he didn't know it if that's the case because his key lieutenants did know a great deal about "operation fast & furious." bill: that program reportedly put weapons in the hands of dangerous criminals in mexico. a government spokesman accuses him of trying to generate headlines. martha: we have a hot issue we have been covering in "america's newsroom." mitt romney blasting the pastor who called mormonism a cult. he says rick perry's campaign needs to denounce that pastor's comments immediately. this is what he had to say about the controversy.
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>> i think governor perry was wrong to have as an introducer someone who said, look, this guy you should vote for because he's one of us and that guy romney should be disqualified because he's not. when that get said -- after that governor perry said that guy hit the ball out of the park. the idea that we are somehow as political candidates going to encourage the american people to make a selection based upon religion, that's an idea that's entirely foreign for a nation found on religious tolerance, pluralality and respect. martha: there you have it from mitt romney. pastor jeffress spoke to us and he says he stands by those comments. bill: if you need to go to the hospital, the doctors may not
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have the medicine you need. john roberts on this story live in atlanta. >> reporter: it's just a huge issue and problem across america. hospitals don't know if they have the drugs they need to treat the patients who will come in. 99.5% of hospitals have reported a shortage of at least one drug. 82% say they delayed treatment and 50% say they haven't been able to give patients the drug regimen for treatment they want. one of those people is a 26-year-old. he suffered from leukemia. he has been so chemotherapy. he was down to his last couple of doses of chemotherapy. when he went to mass general hospital at the beginning of september, instead of giving it to him, they wrote him even iou. >> this is shocking because this is a main medication for me. i go to my mom and say to her, how can he write me an iou of
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medication, shouldn't they have them in stock? it's just shocking to see how -- a major drug to help you fight leukemia. >> reporter: his doctor says it's outrageous that in america these drugs aren't available. and alex praise every day his leukemia does not come back. bill: does this just involve chemotherapy drugs? >> reporter: there are other drugs like the well-known propofols. valium is on short supply. i.v. nutrition. drugs to lower blood pressure. it's causing hospitals to swap and go through a juggling act each and every day trying to get medications to their patients. when they are switching medications and substituting it can lead to mistakes. aaron fox at the universities utah tracks drugs nationwide. >> the total number of shortages
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is difficult for hospitals to deal with. patients are being put at risk for medication safety errors. they are causing adverse effects, including death. >> reporter: what's behind these shortages? manufacturing delays. pharmaceutical companies can't get raw materials. most of these drugs are generic so there is not a large profit margin. bill: john roberts out of atlanta on that story. 20 minutes before the hour. martha: president obama has been fighting an uphill battle with both parties on his jobs bill. democrats say republicans need a plan to get this nation moving again. senator rand paul says he's got one and he's here. bill: the surveillance tape of the baby's mother taken hours
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call or click today. martha: developing right here in "america's newsroom." a u.s. military report says an insurgent fired rocket caused the helicopter crash in afghanistan in august that killed 35 members of special ops including many navy seals. it was the deadliest incident for the u.s. in the 10-year afghan war. the death toll is rising after hurricane jova sweeps over mexico. the company behind the blackberry smartphone says hang in there. service is i am proving in europe, the middle east and africa after a 3-day outage. no word yet on the dead device sitting next to my chair at the
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moment. >> we'll have almost all of the republican senators behind it. if he wants to bring up a piece of his proposed plan we'll bring up a piece of ours. we would love to see a vote in the united states senate on a moratorium on federal regulations which are coming out by the thousands, costing businesses billions of job. we would love to see a vote on that. it would be interesting to see whether the majority leader allows it. bill: that was senator john mccain earlier on fox. he's talking about a jobs plan put forth by him and two other republicans. the jobs situation in the u.s., 404,000 americans filing for first-time jobless claims last week alone. president obama says he will keep up his own fight to get his own plan passed. listen here. >> it's your voice that will make a difference to those
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senators and congressmen. you are their boss and only you can make them do their jobs. so if you want action on jobs, make yourself heard. make a call, write a letter, send an email. just don't give up. after all, we are americans and we don't quit. we stand up for what we believe in and we get through the tough times together. bill: my next guest says he has a plan of his own. republican rand paul out of kentucky. a member of the senate tea party caucus. how you doing, senator. before i get to your plan. why do you think the obama plan has failed so far in the senate? >> i think the president didn't come and talk to republicans. we control the house of representatives. we are a significant any north in the senate. if he wants to work with us he needs to talk to us instead of going around the country berating us with pass it now. if there is common ground we can
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only find that by the president talking to us instead of berating us in his campaign-style speeches. bill: members of his own party did not support it. two of his senators stopped it essentially. you and senator mccain have come out with your own idea. how will that be different from what we are hearing the white house. >> what we are hearing from the white house is borrow more money and stimulate the economy with government money. we are trying to give back to the taxpayer more of their money. the on time we have had sustained economic growth in recent history where we had 6% and 7% economic growth in a year was when reagan lowered tax rates. so you need to lower tax rates. let people keep more of their money. people invest their own money much more wisely than they invest other people's money. bill: do you have much
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democratic support for that? how many do you think? >> i don't think -- we have not sent it out for co-sponsorship yet. we are releasing it this afternoon. and we'll work then to see if we can get some democrat co-sponsors. bill: you have been pining for if the free trade agreement. now you have got a few. they passed with regard to panama, colombia and south korea. how does that help the united states worker? >> that was part of our republican jobs plan was to pass the trade agreement. many have predicted it will create tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of jobs as we open up trademark ets around the world. i come from a farming state. 25% of our farming agricultural
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products are ex ported and these trade agreement will help us. bill: the left are saying the opposite. there are estimates 214,000 union jobs will be lost because of it. are they right? >> you know, it's always -- you can see some jobs lost in some sector and jobs gained in another sector. people who say free trade is bad. when you go to walmart each year, those who shop save $1-800-$900 a year because of free trade. that's money they can spend to increase their standard of living. free trade is good for the consumer and the economy. one more thing about your pops. how is he doing? is he going to hang in there until the end? >> i think he's doing great. he is someone who has shaped the debate and you have seen candidates coming his way and
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foreign policy, should we declare war. should congress vote on going to war before we go to war. he has done a great service to the country in bringing the republican party in his direction. bill: he says it's his time. thank you, sir, for coming back today. rand paul, the republican out of texas. martha: occupy wall street. now we have seen sit move to other parts of the country. we are look at occupy portland. the police have now moved in and arrested about a half dozen of these protesters because they refused to lift their blockade on the main street in portland, oregon. this is heating up. they moved out of one area. they had an agreement but apparently things heeded up at 6:00 a.m. this morning. there is some new fallout from the alleged iranian plot to assassinate the saudi ambassador
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right here in washington, d.c. new details about that suspect are coming into america's newsroom. why the white house says no option against iran is off the table. bill: alarming allegations against the doctor who treated moij there are the moments before of -- treated michael jackson in the moments before he died. >> not calling 911 in a timely fashion all directly impacted his life. because if these chief yaitions were not to have happened mr. jackson would have been alive. [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up!
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bill: the head of gibson guitars speak out about the federal raids on his can trays in
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tennessee. he calls the raids scene overreach and says his company was unfairly targeted. the federal raids seized half a million in goods without making charges. martha: court set to get back underway shortly in the involuntary manslaughter trial of michael jackson's doctor. a sleep expert expected to face some questions there today. claudia, some devastating testimony for conrad murray's defense yesterday. >> reporter: it was. the prosecution now getting ready to wrap up its case with testimony from medical experts telling the court if conrad murray had acted like a responsible cardiologist that his superstar client would be alive. instead the witnesses have been
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saying conrad murray's negligence led directly to michael jackson's death. the court heard from a veteran cardiologist. he says after he was asked to review conrad murray's account he found half a dozen examples of extreme negligence including failure to give jackson adequate cpr and calling jackson's assistant instead of 911 when he realized jackson had stopped breathing. >> 2 seconds to dial. i'm a doctor. come now. >> reporter: another doctor said it was unconscionable to treat him with propofol in the first place, especially out of a hospital setting. martha: one of the main things
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for the defense was to present an argument that michael jackson took the fatal dose himself. >> reporter: the defense backing off its strategy to convince the jury that at least michael jackson swallowed the propofol orally because the defense did lay out that theory in its opening statement. but the defense back away after agreeing with medical evidence to show if taken orally propofol doesn't have much of an effect. but to say somehow michael jackson injected this propofol. we'll have more updates throughout the day. martha: claudia, thank you very much. bill: here is a good riddle for you. florida was the first state to shake up the primary calendar. another state may send the schedule into total chaos. which candidate does that benefit? martha: workers in alabama
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and save up to thousands of dollars. call this toll-free number now. martha: punishing iran. that is what is at the center stage right now inside that hearing on capitol hill that's going on. the senate banking committee is the one who is dealing with this morning, considering, quote, every possible option for sanctions against tehran. that seems to be the level that this is at right now as allegations of a plot to kill the saudi ambassador in a washington, d.c. restaurant triggers some very big questions today about the question of retaliation. brand new hour for you this morning of "america's newsroom." glad to have you with us. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. martha, food morning to you too. this houston man, irania iranian-american accused trying to hire a hit man to assassinate saudi arabian ambassador in washington, that plan according to the
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feds was to carry it out at a crowded washington, d.c. restaurant. martha: what could be considered an act of war or dangerous escalation in the words of hillary clinton yesterday, against the united states and iran's most powerful neighbor in the region saudi arabia. our national correspondent catherine herridge joins us live from washington. there was a late night briefing. what have we learned about what our stance is on this now, catherine? >> reporter: thank you, martha. there was hour-long intense briefing for members of the senate intelligence committee. that briefing was held by the fbi, national counterterrorism center and cia and as well as state and treasury officials. what we learned after from the head of the senate intelligence committee and that the investigation is on going and there may be other plots. >> it is hard for me to believe there is just one plot involving the united states. i think we need to explore whether there are other plots going on in other countries. intelligence indicates that
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the, that there may well be problems elsewhere. >> reporter: late yesterday i spoke with a former senior intelligence official who said to me if in fact this plot did go to the top it tells us that the iranian regime is incredibly irrational. it doesn't go to the top, tells us that the iranian regime is fractured and also dysfunctional. both are bad out comes for the united states if we expect a rational answer from a regime trying to get nuclear weapons, martha. martha: that is one of the things that needs to be figured out. if it goes to the top which top of iran does it go to in terms of ayatollah or ahmadinejad. where all this starts. when you go back into this and look how this plot was laid out, catherine, it is really bizarre and some people are finding it somewhat incredible. >> reporter: incredible to say the least. this is the copy of the criminal complaint. it 20 pages long it. reeds much more like a law enforcement document as opposed to foreign intelligence document.
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let's look at some of the quotes. what we learned the suspect in this case used coded language to talk to the dea informant. i want to tell you the chevrolet is ready, it's ready to be done. i should continue right? chevrolet was code for the plot. the building is getting painted. that meant are we getting all the steps for the plot into the pipeline. intelligence officials and security officials says it looks extremely sophisticated. >> there is no question if you look the way this plot unfolded out of character and much less skilled than what we expect out. iranians. >> reporter: and what we now know from our reporting is when investigators initially looked at this plot martha it seemed so crude that they doubted there was some kind of iranian link but it does seem the transfer of $100,000 what convinced many people there was. martha: boy, there is lot more to learn about this and you're digging into it we know. the catherine, thank you
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very much. bill: washington to riyadh to tehran. so far no immediate reaction from the white house but the talk is tough from press secretary jay carney. >> we considered what it was, which was an attempted terrorist act to assassinate the saudi ambassador here in the united states. i think it is important to call things what they are. in this arena we take no options off the table but in dealing with iran we're clearly focused on working through economic measures, sanctions, as well as diplomatic measures to isolate iran and we have had we think substantial success doing that. bill: closer look at the alleged planners to the plan. they answer to ayatollah khomeni. they are 10 to 15,000 strong. they provide support to iranian-backed terror groups from iran to west bank. they are known to operate a worldwide network focused on searching out and buying wmd
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technology. martha: let's bring our attention back to the economy here at home. we have brand new jobs numbers thursday from the labor department. 1,000 fewer americans filed for first time unemployment benefits that is a very slight dip. it brings the total number to 404,000 unemployment claims. economists say for healthy economy that needs to be consistently below the 400,000 claim. the dow is dipping more than 100 points this morning on concerns about jpmorgan earnings and whether or not this european deal will actually go through. not a pretty picture on wall street. bill: she gives and she steaks takes, doesn't she? got to like manhattan. vice president joe biden with a serious warning about crime. he is suggesting that rapes and murders in michigan could rise if congress does not pass the jobs bill to help local police. here is biden in flint, michigan on that. >> in 2010 when flint had only 144 police officers,
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the murder rate climbed to 65 and rapes just to pick two categories, climbed to 229. in 2011 you now only have 125 shields. god only knows what the numbers will be there year for flint if we don't rectify it. bill: that sound pretty dramatic turns out the numbers may not be right. according to the fbi the numbers of rapes in flint, michigan actually went down in 2010. and that there were 13 fewer murders than he cited. a rep from the vice president's office saying those numbers came from the police the flynt police department. martha: get together and get the numbers straight. presidential candidate michele bachmann just wrapped up a meeting with donald trump here in new york city. it is their third get together since april. they have been meeting quite a bit. trump has been meeting with all the major presidential candidates during the course of the campaign season so far. hear is the congresswoman just moments after she met
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with the man known as "the donald". >> i had a wonderful meeting with mr. trump upstairs. we had a great time. he serve ad wonderful breakfast. we had just a great meeting. we'll continue to work together and talk to him. a lot of people have great respect for him as i do. we have a wonderful relationship. we had a great time this morning. martha: sounds like everybody had a great time and they had a great breakfast. where does that leave us? michele bachmann says she is rebooting her campaign it needs it from the looks of her tumble in the polls over recent month or so. that sends her back to talk to "the donald". he is a pretty smart guy. once in the running himself. bill: i will bet he picked up the tab. martha: no doubt breakfast was good. nice spread there at "the donald's". bill: we have another obstacle thrown down in the state squabble over presidential primaries. this is important, new hampshire secretary of state warning it may move up its primary to december, early december, after several other states pushed their contests up. now here is what the
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calendar looks like now for january. florida moved its primary to the end of the month. now they're on the 31st of january. so south carolina moved up to the 21st. nevada moved up to the 14th of january, prompting iowa to move theirs to january 3rd. new hampshire's secretary of state saying that may not leave them any other choice but to hold the primary on the 6th of december. that is less than two months away. a.b. stoddard, associate editor of congressional newspaper, "the hill." good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: they jockey for position every time we come around. it was a big deal in 2008. how do you see this working out now in 2012? >> well, new hampshire takes this very seriously and doesn't want to be messed with and wants not to be the first caucus which is usually iowa but wants to be the first pry mary. that is why new hampshire is threatening because all these states moved up as you said.
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we are hoping many are hoping that the particularly second-tier candidates that this will not come to pass. that nevada will move from january 14 to january 17 which is the request new hampshire is making and that this will all go away. if not we're looking at a real jolt to the calendar. a whole different campaign not only for second-tier candidates trying to break through but the top tier as well. bill: i want to repeat this, according to state law in new hampshire now, it must set its primary seven days before another similar contest. so it needs some buffer room according to state law in new hampshire. if this plays out the way we looked at this calendar now, that is hypothetical at the moment, it could all change, who does that help? >> it helps mitt romney because mitt romney is strongest in new hampshire. he has the funds to get going. he has built tremendous momentum there. he is up 44th percentile topping the polls with strong lead there and he would hope to start with a win there and build up momentum in iowa and other
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places. he is right now doing better in iowa than expected. it is not helpful to the others who wanted to make a break in iowa. someone like former senator rick santorum who is hoping to have a good showing there and then move on to build momentum in south carolina and other places. and so it really is not going to be trouble like i said. for someone like romney, maybe even former governor jon huntsman who is also trying to contend in new hampshire and places his best hope there. but for the other ones, for michele bachmann trying to come back, governor rick perry trying to come back. bill: it's tough. >> former senator rick santorum, hoping iowa, more conservative caucus will come first. bill: blame it on florida. they made the first move and they got the green light. thank you. we'll see what happens here. a.b. stoddard with a bit of drama on the trail. martha: who knows what our schedule will look like in december, january. busy, busy. president obama's re-election team may be
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looking over their shoulder a little bit at the frontrunner. >> i think that we're having this call because governor romney has been so brazen, has been so brazen frankly in his kind of switches of position, and was evident again last night that it was important to note it. martha: very interesting. that is david axelrod the president's top guy in his campaign. what romney said in tuesday's night debate that raised some eyebrows in the white house. we'll talk to the romney camp. bill: he was a successful businessman. what sparked the meteoric rise for herman cain to the white house? martha: we're getting brand new surveillance video, showing mother of a missing baby the day that her daughter disappear. what it does and does not prove about the search for little lisa irwin. >> did the boys wake up?
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>> yeah, they woke up, immediately screaming her name and looking for her. they were crying, mommy, where is lisa?
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martha: president obama's 2012 campaign is giving some hints how they will go after mitt romney if indeed he becomes the gop nominee. senior adviser to president obama's election team, david axelrod, calling him a flip-flopper on a lot of important issues and pointing out what he believes one of romney's biggest weaknesses. >> one of his problems is he hasn't inspired a whole lot of confidence, enthusiasm among republicans because i think, across the political spectrum people have the same question. if you are willing to change positions on fundamental issues of principle, how can
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we know you would do as president? how can we trust who you would be? i think that's problem he has in his own party. martha: let's bring in the senior adviser to mitt romney's campaign. eric, good morning. good to see you this morning. >> thank you, martha. martha: it's interesting. we heard about this 20-minute conference call david axelrod gave after the debate. you can kind of feel where they're going to be going here. i think that line who can we trust who you will be, is something we may hear coming out of the president's mouth in head-to-head debate if that is where this goes with mitt romney. how are you folks going to handle that charge from them? >> well, look, martha, david axelrod reminds me of an old vaudeville magician using something called redirection to distract the attention of the audience of performance of his trick. the trick in this case is trying to get barack obama reelected despite his failures on the economy.
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and i think you will hear a lot of hocus-pocus on out of the white house and from the democrats during the next year as we wage this campaign. but it doesn't change the fact that america under president obama is an economic disaster zone. and this election will be a referendum on the performance of the president. martha: clearly we watched the debates the other night and mitt romney to then a lot of questions about some of the people say he flip-flopped on over the years. the life issue and gun control and health care and those kind of things. now he seemed to handle and pary those issues. across the board he got very good reviews how he handled all those questions. how do you feel he is different this time around, eric, in the way he is responding to those? >> i think the issue environment is different for the country, martha. if you look back and think about the last presidential election four years ago the
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number one issue on the minds of voters was the war in iraq. it is not surprising then that republicans would nominate john mccain as their candidate because he was viewed as the national security candidate. this time around the number one issue is jobs and the economy. and this is mitt romney's wheelhouse. he spent his entire, or most of his career, 25 years of it in the private sector. he understands why jobs come and go. martha: it is -- >> so i think this issue environment benefits mitt romney and i think the reason that owe he is at tracking so much attention or his candidacy is because he is viewed as experts in jobs and economy. martha: it's fascinating. you never know where the wind of change will take us. when you look back at 08, we spoke a lot about things back then how things were going, john mccain clearly benefited from the iraq issue. you believe any of these issues will be peripheral to the main situation. even when the economy started to deteriorate in '08 and mccain picked as a candidate started looked
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like it was swinging more in the direction of mitt romney's wheelhouse, but was too late to turn things around at that point for his candidacy. one of the things that come up is enthusiasm issue. look at poll numbers about. recent "wall street journal" poll shows herman cain top spot at 27%. mitt romney at 2 %. you can't talk about mitt romney at this stage in the game he basically has been stuck in that range for the last several months. >> well, herman cain is serious competitor. i know mitt romney respects and admirers mr. cain. they happen to share in common the fact that they both have significant private sector experience and mitt believes that is an important quality for our next president. but when you think about herman cain, there is really one issue that comes to mind and is his proposed change this tax policy, the "9-9-9 plan". and that has some significant drawbacks. number one, i don't think the american people are
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ready for a national sales tax. i know that the people of new hampshire would not look forward to the imposition of a sales tax. martha: eric, if i may because i'm running out of time. enthusiasm gap has to do with conservative versus the gop part issue. he has not been able to break through the 23 percentage ceiling and wonder how you folks are addressing that and if you're concerned about him staying in that stage this long? >> mitt romney's support is growing every day, martha. we were thrilled to have the endorsement of new jersey governor chris christie. that to us was significant because i don't think there is more recognized voice reforming government and cutting back on spending than governor christie in new jersey. we are growing in other ways. new supporters coming on board. there is momentum on mitt romney's candidacy. and we feel good --. martha: will we see governor christie on the ticket with governor romney? >> he certainly has a great deal of admiration for him but it would be premature to speculate about a ticket made at this point.
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we have to win some primaries and capture the nomination first. martha: primary schedule is getting pretty interesting too. hopefully we next time can talk about that. eric, great to see u thanks for joining us today. >> thank you, martha. bill: fox news alert now out of capitol hill. this is what we're learning about the possible new sanctions issued against iran. the u.s. treasury top terror finance official saying moments ago washington will consider additional sanctions on the central bank of tehran to further isolate that country financially. they insist the obama administration's efforts to tighten the screws on iran were paying off. it was yesterday when kt mcfarland joined us yesterday in "america's newsroom." saying that is a key component trying to strangle and make change occur within the country of iran. so watch that story. meantime at home, a statewide sickout. who is calling out sick by the hundreds protesting a new state law. we'll take you there. and tell you why this will have national implication. >> a woman calls her
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ex-husband more than a 1,000 times in three months. why is that a problem? sound like a fatal attraction almost. we'll be right back. ♪
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martha: well here's a fox news alert. looks like dominique strauss-kahn, the former head of the world bank can get back to life as usual because now news coming out of paris court they have dropped the rape charges that were brought by the french writer tristen banin her allegation of rape were too old to pursue at this point. so dominique strauss-kahn is basically got that weight lifted off his shoulders and back to his life. >> a remarkable reversal of fortune. a massive sickout protesting new immigration law in
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alabama. thousands of hispanics not showing up for work. an eerie silence on the streets of albertville. many of the shops closed and reaction is a bit mixed on this law. >> when these illegal aliens are continually taking jobs that americans held in the past and, and now it is opening up jobs for americans that needed jobs that is what this bill is really all about. >> i don't really care what kind of spin the state elected officials put on this. it will have a huge impact. and in my world it is, in marshall county it will have a huge impact. bill: paul gavis a reporter for the huntsville times. good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: we're watching this keenly and it is playing out in different states and now it is playing out in alabama. what is going on, paul? >> in albertville, alabama, yesterday, they had a massive protest, a protest in silence. all 40 or so latino-owned
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businesses in the town were shut down. the poultry plants which employ a high number of hispanic workers, they either closed down or scaled back operations in anticipation of workers not showing up. they had a record number of children absent from schools yesterday in albertville. and it is all just continuing fallout of the immigration law that has been passed --. bill: talk about the law in a moment here. 33% of the population of this town alone are hispanic. are these legal immigrants and illegal? >> it's both. it's both. i talked with the mayor of albertville yesterday, and he described there were both illegal and legal aliens. the one-third may be even conservative. it may be even more than that. bill: is this law tougher than what we watched in arizona? will it survive or will it be overturned? >> well, supporters say that it is tougher than the one in arizona. so far it has held up in the courts. now it is before the 11th
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court of appeals in atlanta right now. there could be ruling on that as soon as today. but so far, it has withstood all appeals. bill: paul, quickly here, what's different about alabama that we did not have the in arizona? >> well, i think that what they did in alabama is they, they took the, they used the arizona law as a model, and they beefed it up. it is really, just far more and far more imposing on those who look different, to be quite honest. bill: thank you for your time. we'll see whether or not the sickout continues. we'll watch for the implications outside of alabama. paul reporting from huntsville, alabama. >> thank you. bill:. martha: he may have been an underdog when this whole race started. he was the first person to declare his candidacy for the gop. businessman herman cain is
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suddenly at the top of the polls, folks. we'll take a look what is behind his surge and the whole story. bill: also watch your screen left. that is new surveillance tape just released on the mother of a missing missouri baby. what she is doing only hours for her daughter disappeared. do they provide cluts that investigator are looking for. >> panicked, you don't think when something like that is happening, you don't think. your thoughts are everywhere. they're racing. there is no, nothing makes sense in your head. you just, it is like not real. it's a dream. it's a nightmare.
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>> bill: there is a precious new clue in the search for least irwin, deborah bradley, the baby's mother, seen at a supermarket under the surveillance camera, only hours before she said her daughter vanished. remember parents called police at 4:00 in the morning, that search, does the tape answer any questions? former nypd detective, good morning to you, bo, what does that tell us? >> obviously we want to identify who that person is. you talk about 5:00 in the evening when she's shopping with thisun identified person, now you have -- how old are the other kids, the two boys. bill: the kids in the family? that's a good question, a pop quiz i can't answer. i know they're older than ten months.
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>> supposedly seven, eight, nine years of age, that said, they're nowhere near the age of being able to take care of a ten month old child, an infant like that, what this means at 5:00 that night, where was the baby, the baby is obviously not with her at this point, so this makes you feel as though that question has to be asked of her, where was the baby when you were with this unidentified person. bill: that's a question i assume they've asked already but that surveillance tape doesn't make this woman a killer. >> no. everyone is a suspect until you find out who did it. i mean, she's definitely a suspect. her husband is even a suspect. it's the unknown, also, i'm sure they're checking every pedophile, sex offender in the area, they're checking out every burglar that's committed burglaries. when you do an investigation like this, it's different pieces of the puzzle, you have different directions. she failed a polygraph. polygraph, you can't use. bill: she disputes it, too, says she passed it and her
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family backed her up. >> the police gave her a polygraph. we're dealing with a big police department and fine detectives, they've been around this game before and they're able to ascertain, as far as what if she's telling the truth or not. all these things are going to get -- they are going to get to the conflicting statements. if she says the same thing over and over again you tend to believe her. bill: you're looking for a crack in her story or change in her story. here's what's confounding, she bought baby wipes and baby food and also boxed wine with this man yet to be identified. >> take care of the child. the wipe, too, was taking care of the child. the point is who is this person, maybe this was a relative, maybe not, maybe it's someone she had an affair with, these things have to be investigated. again, an investigation like this, it's like a puzzle, bill. you've got to put these pieces together, you've got to show motive, means, opportunity. what was the motive if this child was abducted and we
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find the child deceased, which we're hoping not, i hope there's an end to this like we've had some good endings, i hope the child is alive and well. bill: we all are. on this surveillance tape police are saying it does not answer any questions. how do you think the police are doing, bo? >> i think the police are putting it close to their waist, as far as what their investigation is revealing. how you can say this doesn't show anything? it shows her at 5:00 with anun identified, as far as i know, unidentified male, they probably have identified who it is, what it was doing, what was her relationship, where they were coming, where they went. this is another area that there's a whole new series of questions, shs she obtained an attorney, i don't know. the whole thing, these police you're dealing with in this big city, it's a big city -- >> bill and we are giving compliments to the detectives there and we wish them the best. >> i really believe they have quality detectives in this city and they've had many disappearances and homicides.
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these are very qualified detectives like all over own country and i think they'll find out the solution to this. bill: sooner rather than later, we hope. appreciate it. twenty-four minutes before the hour. martha: he's driving down the highway and he flashes his brights to give the other drivers on the other side a heads up there's a police car over there in a speed trap. always appreciate that little heads up, right? but the driver got pulled over and handcuffed. he says it's free speech, the state says no, no, no. it's not. douglas kennedy is in our new york newsroom with more on this interesting story. good morning, douglas. >> reporter: i've always suspected that you are a bit of a led foot yourself! if you've ever driven in florida, you know the police there do not like speeders, and they especially don't like those who may be aiding speeders. >> aaron campbell thought he was being helpful.
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a highway patrolman thought he was being obnoxious and disrespectful. >> he gave you a $101 fine. what was your reaction? >> displeef. i could not believe that he was telling me i couldn't communicate with other motorists. >> campbell's crime, flashing his high beams to warn drivers about that patrolman's speed trap that appeared on veterans highway near tampa international airport. >> you got the ticket dismissed. >> correct. >> but you're still suing the state. >> yes. >> why? >> because the state was rolling the dice. they figured most people aren't going to challenge it and i think somebody did. >> between 2005 and 2010, florida cops issued similar summons to 2600 helpers. campbell calls that a blatant violation of the right to free speech. >> it's caught the attention of law enforcement across the country. >> he has a definite different interpretation of the u.s. constitution than i
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do and most law enforcement would say. >> thomas roskin is a former nypd detectives and current police advocate, he says what campbell was doing was dangerous and illegal. >> it's illegal because you're --ets the same thing as saying run, here comes the cops! you're obstructing a cop from doing his lawful duty. >> people in law enforcement say you are impeding the police and helping law breakers. >> absolutely not. >> what do you say? >> absolutely not. we have a right to communicate. >> >> reporter: even, he says, if he may be warning other drivers to slow down. that's it from here, martha, back to you. martha: very interesting debate and very interesting driveby standup, doug! >> you've got to have cam radie. martha: i was there when you talked the cameraman into that one. douglas, thank you very much, douglas kennedy. bill: we'll remember that. martha: flashing the high beams never hurt anybody, right? >> bill: a texas woman accused of taking stalking to a whole new level.
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she's got this on speed dial, folks. she's 49 and furious about her divorce from 2009, she called her x on the phone more than 1000 times in three months. martha: is that a lot? >> bill: 300 calls every 30 days, once dialing 146 times in 24 hours. i guess she needed to talk to him, 700 e-mails in three months, she broke several expensive windows in his home with a tire iron and a sword. rammed his parked car with her car, pushing it into the garage door, all while writing it on a blog, as she started to drag about her bad girl antics. martha: that's a country music song right there! bill: got you on speed dial, baby! you can't escape. martha: and she's blogging about it and bragging! love it. he says he got addict -- addicted to their personal lives, snooping into the e-mail of hollywood actresses, now a break in the hunt for a notorious celebrity hacker.
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bill: also herman cain jumping to the top tier of the race, surging in the polls an that means he's taking a lot of heat from the competitors. can he pull off a pin? >> you know you must be doing something right when you get a lot of arrows in your back but this is the first time that arrows have felt really, really good!
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>> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪ bill: the biggest land owner in all of america, john malone, chairman of lint media, now holds title to 2.2 million-acres in america. martha: incredible. bill: a million acres in maine and new hampshire. by the way what he just purchased is the size of the state of rhode island, he surpasses ted turner. martha: bigger, apparently.
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rhode island is tiny, but it's actually bigger than rhode island. bill: if you owned it, it would be like look what i got, mom! he surpasses ted turner now. martha: boy. well, presidential candidate herman cain rising to the number one spot in a brand new poll. take a look at this from nbc news and the "wall street journal". they've got herman cain at 27 percent among the gop primary voters, mitt romney at 23 percent, rick perry in third at 16 percent, and it goes on down from there. with frontrunner status comes plenty of heat, of course, from his competitors. herman cain is taking those attacks in stride: >> we have an economic crisis. this economy is on life support. this is why i have proposed my 999 plan. it attracted a lot of attention at the debates last night. [laughter] >> you know you must be doing something right when you get a lot of arrows in your back pth but this is
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the first time that arrows have felt really, really good! martha: he knows how to work a crowd. christopher han joins me, former aide to chuck schumer and gretchen hammill, former spokeswoman for the house conference and director at public notice. welcome to both of you. interesting. herman cain was the first person to get into this race on the gop side and it was greeted with sort of barely a notice, now he's up at the top. gretchen, what do you make of it? >> everyone keeps looking for a romney alternative. you have a republican base that isn't satisfied. first it was bachmann, then perry, then they wanted it to be chris christie, now it's herman cain. you know, let's take a look at a quote that goes right to that point, from dan hemmingger at the wall street journal, i thought it was very interesting, he says the enthusiasm flowing to mr. christie came to the same people who hoped to see congressman paul ryan in the race and he goes on to say mitch daniels, jeb bush, all made clear that they
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understood that we had arrived at a big moment for the nation. perform romney by contrast leaves the impression that the country has arrived at his big moment. chris han, your thoughts on that. >> like you said, 75, 77 percent of republicans consistently say they don't want mitt romney. cain has risen through the polls. let's face it, he's the only one on that stage who has personality, it's stunning and is uplifting in its ways. i think his 999 plan is a path to disaster for this country, and now that he's at the top of the polls you'll start to see people focused on what he's trying to do in his plan. let's face it, this guy has made a living selling things in this country and done a very good job at it so he's got a nice, simple plan that people can listen to and understand. that's what's helping him. martha: and definitely connecting with folks out there. that's why we're seeing these numbers for him. but the big question for him, and if you're in the cain camp at this moment, you're saying we don't want to be the next rick perry, we don't constant wa --
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don't want to be the next tim pawlenty, the next person who was the tea party favorite of the moment who falls off the map an gretchen, how do they prevent that from happen something. >> he has to be able to answer the tough questions, he has to answer the questions about his past, about who's supporting him, about his adviser -- adviser, and he's going to have to take scrutiny on the 999 plan and be able to shore up support for it. martha: what's up with that? he's asked about his economic adviser, he danced around it, named one person and said the others are basically secret. >> listen, this is a guy who's used to running a corporation, where he was the boss, and he can talk to whoever he wanted to talk to. now he's going to be under the glare of the national spotlight. i like herman cain personally, i think he's a very interesting character on the political scene but he is surely the flavor of the week. i like black walnut but most americans are going to choose chocolate and vanilla every day. martha: black walnut ice cream is a reference to her main cain, that he said about himself, saying that
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flavor tastes good all the time, because he's very aware as that's the way he's being portrayed, sort of the flavor of the week. does he hang in there or does mitt romney move beyond the 23 percent mark? that's a big question for him because he hasn't been able to do that. >> it's all in herman cain's hands. if he can answer those questions, if he can give the answers the public wants to hear and that straight talk he's been doing, i think he -- i think he has sustainability. but we're a long way from the primaries. remember in 2007, at this time hillary was leading and mccain won new hampshire and that changed everything. martha: that's true but he's got to be able to answer the tough questions on foreign policy which he really has not, we haven't seen him respond to those, particularly well, in recent de beats. that's got to be what they're working on, chris, right? >> i think so. as much as i hate to say this because i really don't like newt gingrich. i think there might be a window for him to climb interest the top tier of
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candidates because i do not think herman cain can answer those questions. these great at slogan earring and likable but he will not sustain this for long. martha: newt gingrich has hung in there and sort of rising sort of like the engine that could. that's going to be something that is going to be interesting to watch as we go forward. thank you very much, crist han, gretchen hammill, thank you guys. have a good one. bill: gingrich is climbing into double digits. we'll see whether or not that sticks or goes higher. jenna lee, on "happening now", jenna, what you looking -- cooking up? >> we are joined li lindsey graham and ben cardin so talk jobs and fast & furious larry sabato, maybe he'll talk about newt gingrich, you never know. he'll also talk about why the election is so early this year, talking about the primaries, what that means for us and our holidays, of course, and awaiting a verdict in the capital trial of the man accused of the home invasion in
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connecticut. we'll have that breaking news on "happening now".
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bill: religion on the campaign, the church of jesus christ of latter day saints lead ago media launch, aimed at correcting misconceptions about mormons, after a prominent evangelical pastor out of texas called mormonism a cult. what's the church doing, alysha? explain this. >> reporter: hi bill. the church is saying this is really no connection with their ad campaign and the political calendar. what they found in research is that either a lot of people don't know anything about the mormon ligior or have huge misconceptions. here's a sample: >> i am a devoted husband, i'm a father. i am an attorney.
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>> one of the perceptions the mormon church is battling is there is a lack of diversity when in fact it is 14 million members strong worldwide and according to officials here has more hispanic members than english speaking, but there is a larger message, they say: >> the basis of our religion is that we follow jesus christ, and so whether or not people consider us christians is best -- or whether or not we are christians probably is best decided by looking into our lives. and seeing if we live the gospel principles that jesus christ taught. >> reporter: as for statements about it being a cult, the church simply refers people to mormon.org. bill: what are they telling you or what are you finding out about how this issue matters to voters, alysha? -- alicia? >> reporter: recent polling in a number of different polls, it shows that in both the republican party and the democratic party, people are still hesitant about voting for a
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mormon for president, specifically among evangelical christians in the republican base. it's an acknowledged hurdle for the romney campaign and in fact in the last run for president mr. romney gave a major speech on his religion but kirk gowers in salt lake city says voters have other things on their minds: >> but i think those numbers are discounted when it actually turns into the actual person. you may have a preference to vote for someone of a particular religion, but at the end of the day you really are choosing the president, not the pastor. >> reporter: gowers adds at the end of the day people are not choosing someone who's -- choosing someone who's a pasting, they're looking for a president that can handle their issues. martha: there is fallout over what the u.s. says was a brazen plan hatched by iran to kill the ambassador in washington, senator lindsey graham on that, next.
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