i mean, people are dying, people are getting rich. you are upset and frustrated. people should not be dying. >> when do we start punishing success in america. >> and i never got a job from a poor person. greta is next. have a great weekend. and tonight karl rove said herman cain just got a gift and now herman cain is leapfrogging past mit romney. so what is mr. cain going to do with that gift? here's karl rove, former advisor in president bush. great to see you. >> great to see you. >> okay. i realize this is only a poll, it's very early and it's a national poll, not iowa or not new hampshire. but tell me, mr. herman cain leading at 27%. >> yeah. first of all, i think -- i like the real clear politics ideas of averaging together the recent polls because it givessa better sense what have is actually happening and gets rid of the outliers, policy either overemphasizing or

underemphasizing a candidate. you look at their average, cain 27, rome -- romney at 23. and it begins in florida with the -- after the poor debate performance by perry and cain wins the straw poll and it's continued since then. now whether or not it's going continue to continue, we don't know. herman cain needs to get his campaign focused on the campaign and not book sales. >> but his book, i thought -- the way i interpreted his book sales is that it was part of his campaign. i forgot the sub title of the book, but that seemed like the way to get the word out. this is who i am and. >> fine, but with all due respect he had four stops in texas. it's not an early primary, march 8th. why did he spend a full day in texas? today he was in western tennessee, we doesn't vote until at least march. he needs to get his bus to iowa,

new hampshire, south carolina, florida and nevada. if he doesn't breakthrough there, and to break threw there you have to show up, particularly in the first three. they have a very keen sense of their role in this and they expect you to show up. if you are not campaigning actively in those states one-on-one now, it's going to be a problem for you. >> that seems to make an adidn'tent amount of sense. only thing curious is he is improving. whatever his strategy is, his numbers of improving. >> but remember, four years ago at this very day, it was rudy giuliani at 30, fred thompson at 20, john mccain at 13, mit romney at 11 and mike huckabee at 6. huckabee was camped out in iowa and won iowa and vaulted on to the national stage and by the time we got around to voting. the two frontrunners were nowhere to be seen. so that's a cautionary lesson for herman cain. look, he's got -- he's been given a gift, and the question is whether he's going to take

that gift and transmute it into something more durable. being on a bus tour in western tennessee is not the way to do it. >> that's suggesting that congresswoman michele bachman, who has been a sleeper in the past few weeks in terms. attention from the media, but she spent a lost time in iowa. that's her strategy. does that put her in a viable position. >> she may be in a more viable position than they give her credit. each these have a different ton# to each one. in iowa they are slow to commit pushes once they commit they stay with you through thick or thin. it's the sort of mid-western sensibility. in new hampshire they are slow to fall in love with you, but one they fall in love you with, they fall out, they fall in, and you hope they are falling back in love with you about the time they go to vote. she went to iowa, she's from waterloo originally, grew up there, and she has on organization in place n a caucus, organization matters.

we need only to look at four years ago on the democratic side. hillary clinton was the leader in the early policy and yet got crushed in the caucus states because she hadn't bothered to organize most of them, idaho, for example. as a result, the guy who organized them swiped a bunch of delegates and those were his early victories. not the primary states, the caucus states. >> governor romney, many. his sons, and he, too, was driving around the state hitting every single county in iowa. is he doing that now in iowa or is he focusing on other states. >> i don't think he's made a decision. >> too late? >> no. he has an organization if the state. he has a list of people who supported him four years ago, augmented by the intelligence his organization has been able to gather so far but i don't think he's made a decision whether or not to commit. >> isn't that like mr. herman cain? mr. herman cain hasn't committed in iowa too. >> but he has been going in and out but he has an advantage

herman cain doesn't have. he has advantage in all the counties that know him and know him and said i'm the romney county chairman here in cherokee county. herman cain needs to get that apparatus in place 23 he is going to snake iowa. if a you are challenger like herman cain, look, he will be the first president, candidate of a major political party since 1920 not to have held elective office and won the nomination. if he elected president he would be the first president in history that never helian elective office. if you are running up hill you better seize the opportunities given to you. and wandering around western tennessee on a bus is not it. >> the fact that he hasn't held an office, i actually think in this climate, and to your benefit, you have the tea party who is so sick of congress, and we expect they will vote republican, if anything i think it hurts more. >> i hear it but i don't expect t we want our presidents to be people who have substance.

>> that's not a sign of substance. experience. >> experience. >> we think about the new members of congress as being tea party representatives. they are. but they have the same percentage of people who have held local elective or state elective office as the rest of the congress. so they aren't that much different in terms of their experience than the rest of the congress. that is to say the tea party did not sweep in a bunch of people who have never been involved in politics before. just the opposite. >> but experience, i think his experience is different. >> it is. >> different but it may be refreshing. it certainly is an experience that might be easily transferred into some of the skills -- i'm not promoting him but i'm saying i wouldn't undermine him. >> wait a minute. at this point we don't know. we do know this. in the head-to-head match-ups, romney tends to lead obama, perry tends to lag, but relatively close, and herman cain in the national matchups, even though he's ahead of perry in the republican presidential sweepstakes, he nonetheless lags

him in the head-to-head match-up with president obama. one of the keys, they want to know being in office and having served as governor as texas, fork, as perry did, gives people confidence when i say i am going to did did you know i will get it done because i have got ten done before. that's what serving in office, gives people a clue. >> i have a bias because everyone said i was just a lawyer, i won make it in tv. i didn't have a journalism degree. >> that's because you are an exceptionally gived person. >> i tease you. governor romney, going into this, he's now among many of the sort of conventions, and pundits, almost like the heir apparent. is he? >> i think we are premature on this. four years ago rudy giuliani was leading the pack. >> when do we get to that point? >> when the individual state polls, when we get close to voting in the individual states and people are making up their minds in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and so forth. even then they will change.

the early contests will have an impact on the subsequent con tests. we were up earlier and two days later we were behind by six after losing new hampshire. what matters is the early state policy as we get closer to voting. people get to a point, and we don't know when it is, it varies from election to election, and somebody in iowa says it's time for me to make a decision or i'm in new hampshire, it's time for me to make a decision. i'm in south carolina, it's time to make a decision. and until then it's all great, good conversation, but, you know, the conventional wisdom is romney has the lead, the conventional wisdom is now turning to he's the presumptive nominee. they may be right he has the lead but if the conventional wisdom he's the presumptive nominee, that ain't true and he better not be thinking it. >> i assume in iowa, since it's not a primary, a caucus, you have to have machinery on the ground to get people to come and

caucus and a lot of people think iowa is unfair unless you have the night off to caucus. if you have a nighttime job you can't even participate. >> look, generally about a quarter to a third of the republicans who vote in a gubernatorial primary in the state actually show up and vote at the caucuses. a caucus by its very nature tends to draw fewer people than a primary. >> is there a path, for instance, for speaker gingrich to get the early nomination? >> yeah, but you have to do well in one of these states. this gets down to making a retail style campaign in three or four early states. certainly iowa, certainly new hampshire, certainly south carolina, maybe nevada and maybe florida. but you have to break through early in order to get there. the question is how strong is his organization in these early states. >> and rick santorum? >> santorum is another potential like bachman, a potential interesting figure to watch in iowa. again, he's going for some of

the same kind of people that she is. that is to say evangelical and social conservatives. he has a little bit greater appeal to catholics who are in the eastern part of the state. she's probably got a better appeal to evangelical protestants in the western part of the state. but he has a chance if he's camped out there. >> and what is congresswoman bachman wins iowa? >> well, allows them to survive a second or third place finish in new hampshire and go ton other states. we saw this with huckabee. he broke through in iowa, didn't do so well in new hampshire but it allowed him enough time to do things like run well in georgia, run well in missouri and so forth. >> to the extent you can general lies, if you do well in iowa you can expect do better in south carolina than new hampshire? >> that's my general reaction. again, i think iowa, new

hampshire doesn't pay much attention to iowa. south carolina pace attention to new hampshire. even though we view the south carolina, we say south carolina and we think typical republican party in the south. however it's a very diverse party. you have a lot of retirees along there that came from the northwest and east and have a more moderate favor and emphasize economic and national defense issues over social issues and then in the up-country you have a party that is more likely to emphasize the social issues. and in the middle of the state you have a mix of sort of small town conservative and chamber of commerce types that emphasize both. >> what do you get with an endorsement like from governor christie? >> you get two things. you get a brief moment of positive attention where you get some of the advocates of that person and some of their detractors but you get a nice little attention. it soaks up the day or the news cycle. the second thing you can get is if they are willing to go on the campaign trail and actually do things for you because you quickly get into a place where

you can be everywhere that everybody wants you to be. and having a strong sr. got like christie or bobby gindall for perry, allows you to keep your people followed up. and christie did an e-mail appeal on behalf of governor romney. that's what you get if you have a surrogate that's willing to throw themselves into the race. >> and governor perry seems less enthusiastic, almost like the wind is out of his sails. man he will get a second wind. but is he less of a factor or do we go back to your original thesis it's too soon? >> it's way too soon. particularly what his wife's comments you can see his mental state is not good. he gave a good speech today and he has $15 million in the bank. does he have the start of an organization and does he have a message that allows him to compete in the early states in i

suspect south carolina will be pretty good for him and 23 he keeps up the fundraising pace he can be competitive with mit romney on the tube. probably too early to be up on television. i wouldn't worry about that. rick santorum has radio ads, that's probably useful for him but if you are well-known for perry or romney or cain, it's better for you not to be on television in some of the early states but to be there in person. this was a critical mistake romney made four years ago n march, april and may of 2007, before he had really introduced himself personally to the to the people of iowa, he ran a bunch of television ads and i can't tell you how many people said he is a hot dog. he shouldn't be running television ads. we would rather see him at the dinners or the candidate forum than see his ads on television. >> let's assume romney and cain is the nominee, and this is a board game jumping ahead, what would they look for in terms of

a vice presidential candidate to compliment themselves. >> depends on if they make a political or governmental decision. a political decision, in the case of romney he will probably say i want somebody from the emerging south like a marco rubio or another successful governor from the midwest. or if it's herman cain he will like somebody who has got some solid government experience, much like barack obama did when he was worried about his foreign policy credentials and picked the senator of the foreign relations committee, joe biden. but i learned in 2000, i was opposed to dick cheney being chosen because i thought it was a political mistake. we didn't need to worry about wyoming, he was an oil man, we were trying to develop the i willage of bush 43 as his own man but then bush decided to go with dick cheney, and the reason was he said the day after i made the case against dick cheney to both he and dick cheney, the governor of texas called me and said i'm going to go with cheney

and the reason i'm going to go with him because i'm thinking through the lens who would be the best with me in the over value office and if something terrible happened to me, who would the public have the most confidence in? >> the decision to select vice president biten, that was a government decision because he had been chairman of the foreign relations for a long time. but it's also a good political decision because it filled the void. >> i think it was a wasted call. >> you do? >> joe biden's advice on afghanistan, there's a new article out about the decision on libya, in which once again joe biden is on the losingen of all of these arguments. >> but the president went the other way. >> exactly. so if his advice was so important to senator obama, why is president obama basically dismissing all of his advice? >> i think, though, it looked good, i think. >> it looked good, that's right.

>> and it looked like it was a government decision. >> it wasn't. >> who would be confident if joe biden were president of the united states. >> i happen to like the vice president. >> you are right, it was a political decision and it was not a governing decision. and that's the lens through which most people who have the make the decision make it. joe lieberman was a big advantage to the democratic ticket and it would have been a good governing decision but we know it was a plate cal decision. al gore wanted another member of the senate, something to allow him to leverage florida. he wanted to get at sort of south florida jews who were not excited about him. why not take the extraordinary step and put the first jewish american on the ticket and off they went to the races. that's how most of them make it and i sit expect president obama made a political decision, i suspect both mit romney and herman cain and rick pair would

also make a political decision. it's interesting, though, if they make a governing decision instead. >> always exciting though. >> it is. >> it will be fun to watch. karl, thank you. >> you bet. >> and straight ahead, wall street protesters declaring victory, but coast-to-coast there's trouble. what is the trouble? that's next. if you thought the outrage over the solyndra scandal could not get worse, wrong. tonight there's new information and brand new outrage. those developments are also coming up. plus lots of people are speaking his approval but now donald trump is actually throwing his support behind someone, and it's someone you would never, ever expect. stay tuned to find out. [ male announcer ] drinking a smoothie with no vegetable nutrition? ♪

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>> there is trouble. demonstrators are now clashing with police. it's happening around the country. in new york protesters refuse to go leave the park where they are so the park would be cleaned up. in boston an attack on the coast guard. charles gasparino joins us. good evening. since we last spoke, this protest is still going on. maybe i concede to you there is not as much of a purpose as i thought, although i stand by people's right to protest. >> absolutely. >> i must admit i'm a little bit

at a loss what people are looking for in this protest. >> greta, if you look at them, and we have done some reporting on this, there is a barely coherent message, aside from sort of ramblings that resimple stuff you might hear out of marxists and they don't seem to have a purpose. if you go down there and look at the park. it's a mess. it's an open sue -- sewer, and people live down there. these folks should be cleaned out of that place. to go down there, to live down there, from what i understand, to have a business down there is unbelievable. it's a deplorable situation that the mayor of the city let get out of hand. >> there is a slight issue, though. next time the issue, the protests could be won that you support, and we do have a first amendment for peaceful protests. >> wait. do we have a first amendment right to occupy a park for weeks

on end? to use it as an open sewer, to have sex in that park and smoke pot in that park? is there is first amendment right there. >> no. >> i'm a libertarian. come on. >> charles, a peaceful protest is extremely important to our democracy. >> of course. i would be the first to tell you. >> i'm in no way supporting as opposed ting on a member of the coast guard which happened in boston. there's a protest outside a very fancy hotel in los angeles. listen, i just err on the side of caution when we talk about a fundamental constitutional right. now, i don't think these protests are in any way advancing their purpose because they are annoying people by making it into a cess pool. they around going to get their point across but i'm not sure what their particular point is. >> they really don't have a point other than they hate wall street, which by the way, i'm surely not one of these protesters, but i've been writing books about the evils in

wall street for years. it's not so much of a secret. and i will say this about the right to protest. the basic of libertarianism, and i am one, i have rights and you have rights as long as they don't conflict with someone else's rights. there are rights of people of new yorkers to work down there, to live down there, and they are violating those rights and i don't understand why this mayor, mike bloomberg, who calls himself a libertarian, is allowing them to violate the rights of people who leave downtown manhattan. it's deplorable. >> they are reporting that tomorrow it will spread around the globe, the protests, new zealand, alaska, london, frankfurt, new york. i don't know where this leads us. but i do -- i do sort of -- i am sort of curious as to what they are seeking to achieve at this point. you know, i remember when you had to -- protests usually have a particular goal and a message.

>> right. is there anything happening here? i'm quoting one of those lefty '60s song. is there anything happening here really other than the protests? i'm wondering if we are giving this way too much credence. a thousand people out of the whole population, it ain't that much. and i mean are we blowing a vocal, very vocal, very small minority of the people, you know, blowing this out of proportion by covering it like this? i just wonder if we are giving them too much freedom. >> i hope it doesn't get violent because then we have a whole another story on our hands. it's annoying to people who live in the area but i'm a big fan. the first amendment. but peace demonstrationings and we will be watching. thank you. >> anytime. >> the solyndra scandal, congress is asking for documents from the white house and they are saying no.

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>> did you hear from treasury department officials admitted today and admitted to congress? hold on to your seat for this

one. treasury officials testified to the restructuring of the half a billion dollar solyndra loan was shocking even to them. and congress asked the white house to produce documents and the white house is refusing. which one do you want to talk about first? the treasury department pointing fingers at energy and saying you are the rat, you don't know what you are doing? >> the story is developing as we go along. from the treasury department perspective, what they came and told congress today, we've been focusing on the original granting of this loan, and then there's the restructuring of the loan that happened last week that. put taxpayers back behind the line ever the investors of solyndra. the treasury department folks say today they were encouraging the department of energy people not to do this. they were concerned even about the legality of doing that. they raised red flags. we had red flags at the beginning and red flags at the end. >> so there's somebody out there. there's somebody out there who knows something who okayed this is obviously is running for

cover. >> we have a portrait of a war inside the administration. it's clear the department of energy wanted something and there were officials inside the office of management and budget and others saying wait a second, let's slow it up. it falls on the department of energy to do all the explain in this. we've seen the head of the loan program under which the solyndra loan was granted resign. >> he was not there when they first started but monitored. >> and as more details come out, as every new congressional hearing unearthed new e-mails. >> this is such incredible blunder. apparently there's at least another one, solar power. it's unbelievable horrible things done with american taxpayer money, the recklessness. but now you have the letter from the white house the white house is simply playing lawyer, we aren't going to turn over the documents we want because we are trying to get to the bottom of it. it would be nice to find out who the inept person is, the person essentially so politically

motivated to waste the taxpayers' money. and now the white house says we aren't going to. it's certainly in this gate time of war, and where people are needing jobs, if the president would step up to the plate and order these people who work for him to comply to get to the bottom of it, it would be nice. >> on one hand you are a lawyer and know how it works the. the legal boiler plates that said he's are confidential inside the west winning of the white house. other presidents have use a similar explanation. but congress is hungry for a lot more details about it. until now the white house has been relatively open and producing documents voluntarily without subpoena power but this goes to a different level. >> but the finger prints of the white house are on this. we've seen memos of ron lane who worked with the vice president's office. and you've not voluntariry, her finger prince are on it,

valerie. i don't know who knew what or did what but now for the white house to say confidentiality, you know, it is reasonable to be suspicious. >> and a lot of folks in congress are suspicious. we talked about this before. there are multiple investigationings going on at multii believe levels. it isn't going away anytime soon. with new revelation it is keeps coming out. in this case you are right. the west winning to clamp down say, no, are not going to see the communications, it's going raise more questions. >> somebody okayed this and somebody did so for a reason either because that person is inept and thought this was a good business decision. we would like to know that. so that person doesn't do it again. or there was so much political influence bearing down on the person the person did that and we are entitled to know that because that is totally unacceptable. >> the department of energy clearly wanted something that a lot of other parties, even inside the executive branch did not want to see happen here. >> wouldn't think the president would want to get this off his plate? and i nerve understands some of this, even energy secretary khu

wouldn't you be think these men, one head of energy and one to the president, could easily get this thing addressed and neither one steps up to the plate and exercises leadership. >> they are always worried about the precedent it sets. >> you think there's something there. >> doing the right thing is just not rue nine washington anymore. i think that is doing the right thing. instead of playing the game we thousands of dollars and hours, the right thing would be to do that and that doesn't seem to be a nab the city. >> it's clearly an embarrassment for the white house. it isn't getting better from anytime soon. seeing the president address this a few times, doesn't seem to be concerned about how it went down. >> but it's other people's money. >> and there are going to be bad bets in this from the white house perspective. >> yeah, but he's not betting his money, he's betting ours. and that's not going to go over

too well too long. nice to see you. >> thanks, greta. >> here is what is coming up on the o'reilly factor. >> glen beck said the occupy wallstreet protesters are a threat to the nation and he has documents to back it up. geraldo says he doesn't believe that. both are on tonight. >> that's coming up. an nfl quarterback is fed up and now he's speaking out. who is it and what is he fed up with? he will be here and till himself. former speaker of the house newt gingrich's wife, callista, is here. i know you're worried about making your savings last and having enough income when you retire.

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>> on the record in just 60 seconds but first let's go to the new york newsroom with the headlines. mary ann. >> president barack obama sending troops to africa to fight inçó the lord's revies stance army. he said the special operations

forces will only advise local soldiers and not engage in battle. the group is accused of murder, rape for more than two decades. group arrived wednesday. and a california company recalling its let us because of listeria fears." there was the presence of the organism in bagged let us. the company recalled cases under the high e and giant eagle brands in iowa and pennsylvania. no i will anies are reported so far. i'm mary ann rafferty. now back to "on the record." >> he was known as a scrambler. quarterback that simply no one could catch. nfl hall of famer for the minnesota vikings and new york giants, fran tarkenton is here. tonight he's not talking football. it's how to fix jobs and correct the educational system.

good evening, sir. >> greta, how about those packers? let's break up the packers. i think we ought to level out the playing field here. they are too rich. >> i was just telling someone right before it started that i remember when i was a kid you were like the devil because we couldn't catch you and then the johnny unite s. you were picking on the packers. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> i understand tonight you have some ideas on how to get jobs. what can we do about jobs in this country? >> well, i just think that we need to look at the real problems in this country. and i wrote something about the teachers union, you know. and the great thing about the nfl and about sports, it's a union. but there's not guaranteed employment. if you produce and play great, you get rewarded. if you don't, you don't. and in our teacher system they are captive. we want them to be better but there's no incentive to do better. there's no incentive to perform.

so therefore, our great teachers, we are losing them. and our unions, our public and private unions are out of control and we don't get the performance there because there's no incentive for the good, industrious people to do better if they work hard. they don't get trophies for trying. they get trophies for performing and that's what america was based on. if we can start doing that and get rid of the entitlements and change the tax system and bring some sanity back and get back to a real democracy and real capitalism, then we can solve problems here and we can provide jobs and that's what we need to do. there's no silver bullet solutions here. there there's no get quick rich schemes. these are systemic things we have to address and nobody is, democrats or republicans. >> how do we get to that point where there is such enormous incentive to do better? and i read in your piece where you talked about, you actually compared to sort of being on the gridiron and if you can manage to stay three or four years on a

football team doesn't mean you should stay for 30 years. there comes a time when you need to go. >> we need to rediscover americacasti. that's why your grandparents and my parents came over here to have hope. we can do it whether we are entitled or not. we have to get rid of entitlements, we have to get rid of all the tax breaks and we need to reform the tax system, and we need to do it and we need to do it now. 51% of american families doan pay tacks. general electric, verizon, others have paid foe tacks the last two years. that is thereat wrong. everybody knows we need to do it but nobody is doing anything. we are going along the path of enabling people to be nonproductive and to be captive by the system and the system is not working. we need to get back to the basic fundamentals and that's also the system that makes football work. it makes good teams work. you have to get back to fundamentals. when you get away from your fundamentals you lose and you

get beat. we've gotten away from the fundamentals of what america is all about. >> we only have a minute left. do you see any of that in washington? any sort of inclination by washington to sort of get back to the fundamentals, as you say them? >> i do not. i see nothing but blame the other guy. let's blame -- let's still blame george bush and let's blame the republicans and republicans blame the democrats. the bad news does not get better with age. the signs are there and the signs are we are really in trouble here in the direction we are going. and we need leadership. democrats and republicans. side by side. to go out and fix this and get back to the fund mentales. i see nothing happening there. now i see of both parties, everybody is running for re-election in 2012. big deal. how about now? how about solving these problems now because if we go this way for much longer, we are in deep trouble. >> and do some people may say we are already in deep trouble. >> yeah, we already are.

>> anyway, fran, thank you. let me confess that i do confess that eats a challenge. i did love watching you many of the wonderful sunday games, even though, like i said, the packers could never catch you. but fran, nice to see you. >> thank you very much, greta. good to be with you. >> and now callista gingrich. she's been busy on the campaign trail with her husband, newt gingrich, but she found time to write a children's book. it's called "sweet land of liberty." nice to see you, callista. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> who drew the cover. >> we have a wonderful i will stray tore, and she did all the illustration necessary the book and together she and i developed this character, ellis the elephant. >> the first thing i think of is the republican elephant and you don't have a donkey in there. >> there are no donkeys, i have to say. but we considered many animals, bunnies, hippos, giraffes, but

in the end i couldn't resist this adorable elephant. >> why ellis? >> it harkens back to ellis island as we are a nation of immigrants. ellis is a name children would find delightful. >> it's so interesting, when i was reading the book i didn't realize until i was reading it outlied in the other room, it rhymes. >> it does. >> i guess i didn't realize it as i rode it in my mind but when i was reading it aloud. >> i have a new appreciation for doctor -- dr. suess. >> what provoked this? >> well, i wrote this book because i love america and i believe our country is exceptional. and i think it's more important now than ever that our children understand why we live in an exceptional nation. unfortunately many of our schools are failing to teach our american history. a recent survey showed a majority of fourth graders didn't know who abraham lincoln

was, or why the pilgrims left europe. or about the ref newsary war. >> fran tarkenton was just on. you heard him. he's upset. a lot of people upset with the education system. people, we're not making the mark compared to a countries in education. what happened? >> well, we've resort today politically correct history, unfortunately. >> the book is selling like hot cakes, right? >> yes. >> how well is it doing? >> i'm a mid-westerner and we don't usually brag. >> do it this time though. >> we are very pleased that sweet land of liberty is number four on the new york times best-seller list for children's picture book. >> is there a seek -- sequel? >> well we are considering one. >> is a donkey going to be in that one? >> we will keep our options open. >> you are not excluding the chance. >> this is a patriotic book, not a conservative book, it's a pro

american book and i hope it will appeal to many americans. the celebration of our patriotic values. >> did you actually write it on the campaign trail? >> yes. >> well, you are am -- ambidextrous, so to speak. >> now donald trump is talking about roseau dodge again. what is she saying this time. >> and we had bill o'reilly and david letterman on camera together. they are coming up. is without e. ♪ visit us online to learn what makes our bank so different.

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