i am bill o'reilly. please also remember that the spin stops right here because we are definitely look out for you. >> a showdown between the occupy wallstreet movement and the nypd has been narrowly averted after some intense hours this morning. a mandatory evacuation of the park where protesters have been camped out was postponed. the cleaning of the park, which with as slated to begin at 7:00 a.m. was announced by mayor michael bloomberg after his office was contacted by the owners of the land. >> yesterday, as of 8:00 at night, they were going ahead to do it, but as of midnight they called and said they wanted to

postpone the cleaning operations to see if they can work out an agreement with the protesters. i'm not sure what that means. >> i'm not sure what it means either. >> we are going to be monitoring the situation going forward. we will do what is necessary to maintain public health and safety. >> that message from mayor bloomberg clearly indicates his belief this a significant clash between the demonstrators and law enforcement could occur in the very near future. and already today after the cleanup was cancelled at least 14 arrests were made as members of the left wing movement storm the area all around wall street. joining me now for reaction, all these new developments, the author of the new york times best-seller, called "the monic." isis that a mob? >> yes, it is. >> everybody knows you. what's with the itty bitty purse thing? what is this? >> that's my earpiece which i don't need here. i think we are all on air, sean. >> just check being. >> and they are precisely following my peak.

liberals get upset that the liberal mobs are demonic, and yet themselves are quoting the first theme in the book from the bible. they put up describing occupy wall street. they put up a voice and what the demonic voice says to jesus. >> i don't get mayor bloomberg on this. he was talking to my friend, john gambling, and i am listening to bloomberg and backing down and apiecing the protesters. he went down there and said we are going to clean it at 7:00. they give in, and what happens, it emboldens them and they clash with police and are throwing over police motor scooters and they are acting like crazy people. >> he's no hiacowa. no one really thinks that mayor bloomberg is a manly man. >> ouch. >> i'm not sure if this is the course to take with the pro forecasters. americans are reacting the way they should, which is evulsion.

>> keep this video up. this is barack obama supporting this group. thank you, pelosi. this is the democratic party. this is the base of the democratic party. >> this is what i write about in my book. now the democrats you think they would step away from these demonic noons and teenage run aways, adolescents looking for a cause. they are throwing themselves right in with these protesters, who are also calling for, curiously enough, we need another french revolution. why wouldn't they call for an american revolution? because as i industry in my back, the division between liberalism and conservatism began with the american revolution conservatives and french revolution liberals. >> they aren't fans of ann coulter. >> i think they like they. >> you think everybody likes you. how could they not? they did a poll.

34%, remember, obama supporting hem, al gore supporting them, nancy pelosi supporting them. and 37 hers think the u.s. boost is no better than the al-qaeda, and 37% think capitalism is immoral. >> and i would like to mention he was speaking at yale on tuesday and i was at their political union and they have the party of the left. and they probably have the sparticus lead. and when i accused the members of the party of the sparticus league, why aren't you done down on wall street, and they acted with con tomorrow. i promise you none thieves kids are coming from places like yale, they are coming from the bush league schools which is why none of them can say they are there. and to show how brain less they

are, he claim they are protesting wall street but when we try to walk up to the homes of wall street they go to rupert murdoch's home, who has nothing to do with wall street. they are business man's. these are the neighbors of george soros. >> but even they recognize they take it from one level to the next level, and then i asked giuliani the other day, what would you do if you were mayor? >> nobody sleeps on the street. it's that simple. it wouldn't have gotten to this point. now do we risk real violence? would it be so far-fetched they are going to pick up a brick, as bill morris suggest the -- >> no, they walk past the rich neighborhood, and past george soros, who are funding them, in order to annoy his neighbors.

and wall street gave its biggest donation in history to obama. why don't they protest obama? they are brainwashed and there is the possibility of violence with the mob. >> did you ever give chris christie his inhaler back? >> i did because i'm now with romney-cane. >> or excuse me, his breathalyzer. >> i want you to leave obama alone and give the guy a break. he's in relief over cancellation of the first two weeks of the nba season. back off. >> i'm sorry. well, it's getting cold, he can't play golf so he must be really upset. here's what i want to ask you, very simple. now who do you support? >> romney-cane, 201. >> okay. romney-cane, not cane-romney? >> only because cain has has not held elective office before. but i was saying before we went

on, every one of these candidates, even the nut candidates, are better than john mccain. forget about how much better they are than obama, the current occupier of the white house. romney has been magnificent in these debates. you have to go with what you have. >> as bad as obama's numbers are, can he make a comeback? could republicans get overconfident and say unemployment is 9%, he's in the 30s in terms of his popularity, $50 million in poverty. >> to some extent. you have to remember he will have the entire main street media bucking for him and they will lie about the economy. it's a turnaround, don't stop him now. but he doesn't understands the economy. he's done exactly the opposite of everything ronald reagan has done and he's gotten the opposite results. what do you think are the odds of him doing that? that couldn't turn it around because once romney and cane get into office, it will take 18 months to work through this.

>> yeah. and then we are going to bring in chris christie as rivera as the closer and he will clean anything he left be find. >> poor christie will hear this the rest of his life. >> chris christie, 2020. >> you are obsessed. you are chris of a chris christie stocker. >> i'm obsessed with saving this country. >> you threatened to take away his inhaler. >> and i almost got him to run. >> so good to see you, sean. >> and i didn't ask you about your boyfriend. i'm a brat. say it. >> no, you are a gossipy old woman. >> coming up, rick perry unveils his energy plan he says will get america back on the right economic track, and is it enough for him to elbow his way back into the spotlight? that and more coming up. ♪

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unemployment today in north dakota because of a massive oil find there is 3.5%. canada was in a recession in 2009, and guess what, they drilled their way out of it. so he think perry is on to something that it would probably be the quickest means to create the most amount of jobs, lower taxes by lowering energy prices, and having the better impact of national security by being -- by not being so dependent. do you agree? >> it certainly is very important. i think it's one cliff of what you need to have in larger economic plan in order to get job creation started and also to help us become a more energy independent nation and a much more secure nation as a result. i think that this is, as one part of what he's proposing today, and it seems to be in his wheelhouse being he's governor of texas he knows a little bit about this particular issue. but the problem for him, sean, and the big challenge is that it is only one sliver. the american public right now is look for a much larger, much

more comprehensive approach to how we are going to revitalize our economy. the big problem for perry, someone like governor romney, who i am an advocate for, he put together a 50-plus point plan from everything to tax framework and energy and other big issues and that's where he's having a hard time drawing a favorable contrast. i think that's why he's been struggling in the polls. >> i also think he did not have a good answer on in state tuition breaks for illegal immigrants and i think that's hurt him the most more than anything. i'm not sure if he will change his answer or what will happen next. >> in the debate the other night he alleged he's only been running for about seven weeks and governor romney has been running for a much larger period of type. but that's also a beg contrast they think is unfavorable for governor perry because governor

romney has laid out a investigation for what he wants to do on day one in contrast, and by contrast governor perry is looking like he's winning it, pulling his platform as he goes and that's a problem. >> and good to see you. i know you are probably -- i know there are some as specks of obama you are not happy with but in the end i suspect you will probably vote to re-elect him. you are nodding your head yes. >> well, if there was an alternative i would look at it but there's no alternative now that's appealing to me. >> here's my question. we are talking about herman cain. his challenge, can he sustain it? pawlenty was up and down, and michele bachman man up and now down and perry up and now down. they can come back. i don't think ice settled. your fellow liberals have been brutally and at times vile in

their comments about herman cain. more recently cornell west, more recently harry belafonte. but african-american conservative are called the worst names, and it's happening again. what do you think of that as a liberal? >> well, i mean, sean, know what i think about it. it's completely reprehensible. this is typical. this happens to african-american conservatives and happens to female conservatives. for some reason everybody feels they can come out and say these horrible things about them because they feel like they should be democrats. that african americans aren't allowed to be republicans, they around allowed to actually be independent thinkers and choose to be a republicans. they feel justified in saying these things and it's disgusting. >> kevin, against the issue, the question came up at the value voters summit this weekend, and i found it reprehensible, the attack on governor romney's religion. and i'm thinking why wasn't -- if this was such a big deal, how

about the pastor? he is like family to me, jeremiah right, and g. d. america, god bless america, and are we going to question people's religion? all of a sudden religion is an issue in the campaign. >> seems to be a little bit of a double standard as well here. what happens, you see a lot of the reports and the way this is analyzed as to governor romney may have this problem with conservatives or problems with envangelicals because of the mormon question. but you look and study the data and the policy, it's actually liberals and democrats are the ones that actually show an aversion toward mormons. i think that's because they are strong on family, they are strong faith and they are usually culturally conservative and there's a bit of a clash there. but i think it's unfair to exam just one side of the equation and not the other side of it. >> all right, guys. good to see you both. >> good to be here.

>> things get heated on the hill today as the house continues to investigate, quote, crony capitalism in the solyndra scandal. we will show i the highlights and plus we will reveal the identity of the administration's latest inside name. we will check on this coming up we will check on this coming up on this edition fore!

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>> the house, energy and customers committee held the first congressional hearing on the solar company solyndra today and things got a little heated as gop committee members argued that the department of energy clearly broke the law. >> recent e-mails provided by the white house and o. m. b., as well as a long chain of others, clearly show that numerous members of the obama administration, from the most senior levels in the west wing, down to the career professionals at omb, and doe, knew that solyndra was a bad bet that was defend continued to fail. >> the department of energy violated the law when they agreed to subordinate the taxpayers' money to private investors, some of whom appear to be heavy contributors to president obama's campaign.

>> it's inconvenient, boo-hoo. i think what happened is the department of energy made a bad loan, they realize it had and they were trying to figure a way to cover-up the fact not that they had done anything illegal, but that they had made a bad loan and they went and broke the law. >> and david prenn, who is a cofounder of the boston based investment form rockport capital, who is also serving as a green energy advisor to the president at the time, may have been the first one to push the administration for the half billion dollar loan for excellent draw, all the time while he held a stake into the company. and to explain the president's latest scapegoat strat strategy, the one and only charles. >> and as wes get more and more

details, sun power, solyndra, we are talking about $2 trillion now and other solar companies, the access to obama, and the access that was granted and the donations bundled and due diligence not occurring. do you think this can become a major scandal? >> i think sort of intrinsically there's a scandal in essence because once you enter into these large bet, that is clearly not viable or they would raise money on their own, the markets have spoken. the technology is not ripe or ready. it is ripe and open to any kind of scandal. who who is going to end up getting the money? people who know the people in power, people who have access, people who have connections. it's intrinsic in all this. i'm disturbed about the new finding we heard about today where they appear to have broken the law by subordinating the

government loan, meaning our money, to the private investors, meaning that when they take apart the company and they sell the plumbing in the bathrooms, the people who will get that are not going to be people who paid the taxes that gave the half a billion dollars, it is going to be the private investors. from what i understand, that is illegal, and i think that's the first sort of i will legality that we have seen. the mistakes and the cronyism is all open in there, but illlegality appears to be new. >> and roger clemens, i think you are a baseball fan, went to congress and now is on charges of lying before congress. the attorney general said on may 3rd that while he had just recently heard about it, only in recent weeks, and in fact we have five separate occasions where we know that he knew. we know that obama spoke out about it long before this. so the question is. >> i'm not -- i'm not sure that

we knew that he knew. we know that he got many memos about this. going back at least a year before he knew. soñr withholder you always have the incompetence argument. remember, he's the guy who was in congress and said he opposed the law in arizona about immigration, and he declared it unconstitutional. he was asked if he read the law and he said no. i think it's about 8 pages. he's capable of receiving information and either not reading it or remembering it or scanning it and ignoring it. so that's possible. >> that is possible >> i won't say he lied. >> one thing that is not possible is that he bragged about the program prior to the point when he testified, and he said he only heard about it in reason weeks. he was out there a year prior bagging about extending the program, advancing the program. i think he's going to have a hard time. he might make the case he didn't read the memos, but he certainly

can't overcome, i think, his admission that he knew about the program long before he situation he did. >> look, we need to hear him speak about this and of it under oath. i wouldn't put it past him to actually know something at one point and not remember it a year later, or to sort of gloss over it in his memory. look, i'm not willing to accuse a man of perjury until i've heard his defense on the charge. >> i think he's got an uphill battle on that but we will wait and see. >> in our system you call him, he raises his hand, he takes an oath and tries to explain. >> and he has a history of questionable testimony before congress. mark rich is one case, and another case had to do with the flan terrorists, and in this case he's on record saying he miew and was proud of it and then he couldn't remember that. so on top of the memo -- look, it's a pretty compelling case.

>> look, incompetence is a bad enough charge if it's shown over and over again, starting with the rich case. and it's enough to deny you high office so i think that ought to be enough, perhaps there's more. we will find out. >> let me ask you one presidential politics question. you wrote a great column >> thought. what do you do if you can't run on your record, what do you do if you have chronic high unemployment, the worse housing crisis since the great depression, and millions in poverty. you talk about the left now is lashing out. few recent examples, nancy pelosi, women will die on the floor. you are congresswoman sanchez saying about the tea party, they aren't patriots, they don't love this country. you have jesse jackson jr. talking about the president sort of shredding the constitution and going above that. the attacks against herman cain. all put together what does it mean to you, all this attack? is this the etched that liberalism is in the decline? >> we attack them, they attack

us, especially in an election year. that doesn't surprise me. what surprises me is what the president has adopted with a year to go, and as i wrote he can run on his roar. he tried to excuse it all away by saying it's the fault of the supply chain disruption in japan, the crisis in europe, the act of god, hurricanes and tsunamis. that doesn't really work. it's defensive and pathetic really. so instead he's now gone on the attack. the blame now is on the villains. and the villains are really clear, it's the plutacrats, it's the rich, it's those who, quote, don't pay their fair share, and by squeeze everybody else in america, the upper 1%, you hear, are squeezing america and denying it a place in the sun and a decent living. so what he's doing is the most raw, the most demagogic

populism, which is dangerous in a country when the president is the one who leads the charge on that issue. because he knows it's not so. he knows it's about other kinds of economic conditions, structural changes. and the failures of his administration and the stimulus and all the economic policies. so instead he's look for scapegoats, and that i think is one of the lowest of the low roads that a president can adopt in running for re-election. and the echos of it could be quite serious and dangerous. >> i totally agree with you. my favorite excuses were, of course, blaming kiosks and atm machines for not creating jobs. last question, we are running out of time, do you think that strategy can work? >> you know, it's a tough time, and people are demoralized. they are disoriented and they feel in some way that life has dealt with them unfairly and in some senses i think, yes, i

would put the blame on the month politicians and the policies, et cetera. but given those conditions, it's been shown in the 20th century, especially in the years around the depression, that you can sometimes win or row taken office abroad and here by looking for scapegoats. sometimes ethnic, sometimes economic, sometimes class stay goats, and this is a classic example of it. >> all right. good to see you, charles krauthammer. thanks for being here. >> pleasure. >> and coming up, we will talk about the tactics, and why they could be successful and he could be re-elected in 201. that you and much more coming up that you and much more coming up straight ahead. financial advise is everywhere. i mean everywhere. real objective investing help. that's a little harder to find. but, here's what i know... td ameritrade doesn't manage mutual funds. or underwrite stocks and bonds.

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>> the economy is sure to be on the minds of everyone heading to

the policy in 201. i sat down with charles sowell to talk about his new book. his new book is called "the reader." how are you? welcome back, sir. >> fine. thank. >> it's pretty funny. on the one hand you are critical, you went to an ivy league school, you went to harvard. on the other hand you tell a story about other professor who forced you to big deeper for answers and be more critical in your analysis. so was harvard a good experience or a bad analysis? >> that one class was a good experience. >> that one? >> no, there were a few others, too. the professor, there was some issue, i for i forgot what it w, and he asked me what is your an littic. and i began with enthusiasm and said this happened and that will happen and he said and then what will happen? i realized he caught me short,

there would be further repercussions from what i suggested. and as i went through i realized it was negative things that would happen and he said yes and then what will happen? as i pursued it further and further, i realized again this would end up creating far more problems than it was going to solve. it was a great experience in retrospect because it forced me to think beyond stage 1. i think in politics, politicians themselves almost never think beyond that. and unfortunately too many in the media and even academe yeah don't think upon what the immediate results will be. >> that's well said. my political science professor, i'm a communist and communism is better than capitalism and i end up fighting him the entire semester and i got the lowest grade i ever had in college. thanks very much. >> all too typical. >> yeah. you know, you use a lot of classic fables and analogies in

the book and you talk about the grass hopper and the ant. i want you to explain this to people because we have 50% of american taxpayers, they doan pay any income tax. the top 1% pace 40 and they get hit over the head and get told they aren't paying their fair share. explain why that would be relevant to today's economic conditions. >> the notion of fair share, i love it. no one ever says what it is. is it 2%, 40%, 60%? they don't specify. it reminds me what the question was addressed to legendary leo. what is it that organized labor wants and he said in one word, more. that's what fear means. it means more, fair means more. >> but the grasshopper and the ant is the perfect analogy, i think. here's my fear about 50% of the electorate not paying any taxes, and it's pretty simple. that's a voting majority. >> yes. >> so at some point, does

everybody say why am i working, why am i paying all this money in taxes, why am i producing, and we've now empowered a government to take all that money and create their own social order? do we give up liberty in the process? >> oh, absolutely. no question about it because as the government dispenses money, they can make the dispensing of that money contingent on your going along with their ideas. so even if you may have a right to do this or that, if they are hanging this over your head, exercising that right can be too expensive. >> explain what happens, there was a great article on the front cover this week in usa today, top fold, and it was a story about what's happening in europe. we see what's happening in greece, we see what is happening in spain and portugal, ireland, for example. and the germans are mad at

greece because greece won't put in place the as the austerity measures that are necessary to get the loans to continue. and there seems to be a great entitlement there. what happens if europe and the euro collapse? do you think it could happen and what would happen? >> oh, i think they will keep it from collapsing by some kind of way or another. but germany is saving and greece is spending, and we've gotten the idea not only within countries but between countries that some people ought to spend and the others who didn't spend have to come to their rescue and instead of letting them pay the consequences of what they have done. >> assess the obama presidency on economics, on foreign policy. do you think with the numbers he has now he can get re-elected? >> i'm afraid he can. people say, you know, how can he get re-elected with the

unemployment rate stuck at 9%? and the answer i give is franklin d roosevelt was elected twice in a row when the unemployment rate never came down as low as 9% and he did it by the tactics that obama is now using, namely he blamed it all on his predecessor, he blamed it all on business, and he claimed to have some sort of magic answers and it worked for him. some of the polls are saying any republican can beat obama, but he won't be running against any republican, he will be running against some specific individual who will be the target of as many smears they can possibly come up with. if there's a videotape of that candidate jaywalking 20 years ago, its going to be on television. >> i made a rule -- >> so i can't regard it as a done deal they are going to get him out of there. i hope they get him out of there but i hope the republicans aren't being complacent. >> i think that's a good admonition s there any one candidate you like and you

support? >> well, we haven't yet found superman. i suspect we aren't going to. so the question is what -- who is the best out of what there is out there? and that remains to be seen. >> all right. thomas sowell, always appreciate you being with us. congratulations on the new book and we hope you will come back soon. >> thank you very much. >> and let not your heart be troubled. our great, great, great american panel is next. capital one's new cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus! so you earn 50% more cash. according to research, everybody likes more cash. well, almost everybody... ♪ would you like 50% more cash? no! but it's more money. [ male announcer ] the new capital one cash rewards card. the card for people who want 50% more cash. what's in your wallet? woah! [ giggles ]

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sanchez and pelosi just this week. >> she nailed the obstructtors in the senate on my radio show today. >> these are not patriots. people who love this country want to see jobs created. >> they don't love this country? >> no. i don't think they love this country. they are not concerned about the economic well-being of the country as a whole. >> republicans vote for this bill today, they will be voting to say that women can die on the floor and healthcare providers do not have to intervene if this bill is passed. it's just appalling. >> they are not patriots, they don't love this country and conservatives want women to die. the rhetoric doesn't stop. and apparently anytime you take on "the views" of, sean, from the standpoint of just looking at it even handedly and saying

we just want to make sure that the rights of all others stand firm, all of a sudden you are anti-everything in terms of the liberals that are in command. i have no idea how nancy pelosi ever got elected to anything at anytime. >> how does the president appeal to the center by allowing -- he lectured everybody on civility but not his own party so it's obviously out of convenience. how does he get reelected by going so far left himself with his rhetoric. >> and embracing the wall street protesters, write is dangerous on his part. going back to the sanchez comment, this is the equivalent -- by the way, when you are opposing this administration when there's over 9% employment and you don't want people employed, it doesn't quite track. and people from the left say

that the tea party is racist. >> they want black people hanging from trees. >> and this is racist. and i was at a conference and a woman stood up and said the tea party is opposing barack obama because of race. the last time i checked, the tea party really loved herman cain. how does that fit? >> well, one said that proofs they are racist because they like herman cain. you can't make this stuff up. you look at the wall street protesters as well. how many black wall street protesters do you see when you walk by and look? if you call out the tea party, let's call out the occupy wallstreet. the occupy wallstreet and tea party are much more similar than people think. look, i didn't want bailouts of banks and financial institution. when i look at that scene and the country looks and nancy pelosi supports this, does that represent the modern democratic

party? >> evidently. and if it can get you elected, that is seemingly is all that matters, sean. >> won't they interpret it that way. >> if the wall street protests represented genuine frustration with wall street, the banks, this economy, where it is going, field some candidates, get people elected by the tea party did and affect the agenda of a party. i don't get the sense they can translate it. >> they don't have an agenda. everybody is america in frustrated at different levels but the tea party had a plan, the gop has a plan. occupy wallstreet does not have a plan. >> why don't they protest in front of the white house? >> it should be occupy pennsylvania avenue, in my mind. be mad at the government for giving the banks the money. >> or giving, supporting sub prime mortgages. i think it's a misplaced frustration. it's a hard, complicated argument to make and people are frustrated. people are frustrated and they are frustrated with the unemployment. >> last one.

>> and the voices you are hearing are just voices. it's not the level of integrity of those voice that is really matter. and the democrats are saying to themselves, hey, if they can vote, those voices matter. that's all we care about. the of if there are enough of them, we will get elect the. >> i played them. you have got people having sex on the street, walk around topless, smoking pot. it's a garbage bin down there. >> the question is, here's the question for the democrats, to the extent they are racist, do you want to become the jimmy carter party or the george mcgovern party? >> not a good choice. at adt, we get financing from ge capital.

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we continue on with the great american panel. i wonder if brian williams is proud of a lot of the commentary that is on nbc news these days. you have the genius, johnny, listen, four people killed, nine injured and watch his comment. >> i don't want this to come out the wrong way. if we think not needs , but what happens. if you think back to the late '60s, what is the most stirring image of all of the rebellion that happened? what do we remember? kent state. i'm not saying somebody has to

get killed. what will happen, there will be a climb max moment of class warfare somehow played out on screen that i think will -- the same way 9-9-9, if you will, kind of simply guys a message that's correct articulates this class. >> not needs, but will happen. if you think will happen. hands up if you think ice memory is only because he thinks to crosby, stills, nash and young? [laughter] >> line. the week. good job. >> i mean, i'm thinking brian williams, he's a straight news guy. >> and kent state, let's think about this. the vietnam war, 50,000 americans were killed in that war. and the most painful recent time in our lives, and you have these guys down on wall street which i happen to disagree with their point of view, but it's not -- it's not at the level of the vietnam war. >> no. >> but there's a danger.

even the new york city times recognized it. so we start at wall street, then they are in a conflict with police today. the day before they are walking through the rich people neighbors. what's next, a breck through their window. >> and rich people, they decide which rich people are bad rich people. it's sort of the rich people from silicone valley or george soros or kanye west or all these guys making millions in a way they think it's okay to make millions. it's a very muddled, as you said, a muddled message. >> when i heard him, that guy has been trying to make a name for himself for years and it hasn't worked. but when he said that today, that put me back. i will never watch him ever again. he said they need this and this will be the turning point. people dying is a turning point to stop the corruption in wall street? >> he says if we think not needs

but what will happen. and then he goes on to say what do we remember, kent state. not that it will happen. >> but the thing is there's this romannism attached to these moments like kent state which in fact were tragic, and they want this, the 60s romanticism that is still out there and there are these folks, baby boomers, who want this re-creation of what they think the '670s were. >> in television we've all gone to sensitivity training and sensitivity seminars. the first lesson learned, okay; that if you begin any statement that you make with -- got to be careful the way this comes out -- you probably shouldn't say it. if you you are going to prefacer statement with i ought to be careful with the way -- >> don't say it. >> i think president obama is one of the worst presidents in history, would that be one of the moments? >> no, i think you are fine that way. >> see, i don't need sensitivity training. i mean,