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>> arthel: hello, everyone. >> rick: glad you're with us. welcome to a brand-new hour inside america's news headquarters. topping the news this hour, the occupy wall street protesters taking their message across manhattan and around the world. crowds of demonstrators gathering right now in times square. it's just one of the rallies that's happening in dozens of countries and some have turned into all-out clashes with the police. >> arthel: a new shakeup in the gop presidential field. another candidate joining the ranks of their top tier. but will one candidate emerge that a majority of republicans
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will support? >> rick: and another foreign deployment for zoetropes. this time africa. more on what our military commitment will be there and how long we'll be staying. >> arthel: we begin with our top story, occupy wall street rally turned into a violent clash with police in rome. dozens of people injured in the fighting. a group of demonstrators breaking away from an otherwise peaceful march and started breaking bank windows, destroying atms and torching cars. greg berk is screaming live from rome. did authorities know the things would get so wild today? >> well, i think they had some idea there was some indications. they certainly put out police force, a major, major police force. then there was signs. there are a lot of demonstrations, a lot of strikes in italy. they don't often get this violent, but every once in a while, they do reach a boiling point. there was a time tenors ago when one of the protesters was killed, when one of the police officers fired on him.
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there was also a sign yesterday, berlusconi survived the confidence vote. the protesters already were camping out and didn't like that. they tried to storm parliament. so there were already scuffles. some signs that things could get rough. a lot of the protests have been against the banks and certainly that was expected today, that they were going to try to go after those cash machines and also the banks that's pretty easy to do and they certainly did it in a major way. >> arthel: everything else has been peaceful and there is usually like one group that kicks everything off. do we know who is responsible for all of the mayhem? >> well, yeah. it's probably several hundred people. unfortunately, the police only arrested a dozen, as i've seen right now. but it's basically a fringe group of far left italian, anarchists and they also call them a group they call the black block. but essentially it's far, far left and every once in a while, they get like this. they're totally anti-institutional. basically in favor of anarchy.
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the problem is, the police keep a pretty good eye on them during the year, but then in cases like this, they just go wild and the police don't push it too far in arresting too many of them, which may be the thing to do, but there is a lot of politics at play here, too. if the police are too strong in that, they quick low get in trouble. >> arthel: politics indeed. thank you very much. >> rick: as the occupy wall street protests spread around the world, the demonstrators taking over more of new york city, hosting several rallies in manhattan with the largest one going on right now only blocks from our studios in times square. all of this comes as new york city police make another 20 arrests. taking demonstrator noose custody during a march through greenwich village targeting city bank branch near nyu. in san diego, police using pepper spray to break up a human chain formed around a tent by anti-wall street protesters. at least one person was arrested when demonstrators refused to leave an area around the city's
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convention center. police in san diego are defending their actions. >> tried to make sure that people have a right to protest, but we also have people in the city of san diego that need to conduct work. >> the police, you know, we're on the same side. >> week long occupy san diego rally was peaceful until that scuffle broke out on friday. >> arthel: a major win for the u.s. drone program in yemen. a friday night strike taking out nine al-qaeda link militants, the son of u.s.-born radical cleric anwar al-awlaki reportedly among the dead. shortly after his father was killed in a similar strike last month. reena ninan has the latest from jerusalem. >> hi, rick. it appears more and more that washington's weapon of choice in dealing with al-qaeda militants in gemmen is drone strikes. seven al-qaeda militants were killed last night, including the son of u.s. born cleric anwar al-awlaki who was killed in a similar style attack last month.
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al-qaeda appears to be taking advantage of the political uncertainty in yemen. the president has been desperately trying to hold on to power here in the midst of an uprising that lasted eight months. in the capital, forces loyal to the president opened fire on thousands of protesters, killing at least nine and wounding at least 180. many were taken to hospitals. medical officials said sala's forces fired on protesters using rifles and anti-aircraft guns. gun fire could be heard in the city throughout the afternoon. al-qaeda linked militants have taken over much of southern yemen. the fear is that they could gain a growing foothold throughout the rest of yemen because of the instability. rick? >> rick: reunion arena in jerusalem, thanks. >> arthel: u.s. special forces heading to africa. the lords resistance army, a group accused of decades of human rights violations, now in america's crosshairs.
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president obama sending 100 troops to help advise in the fight against them. after nearly a quarter century of the l.r.a.'s brutality, many are hoping this boost will deliver much needed knockout. molly henneberg is live now with more. hi. >> hi. these 100 u.s. troops, mostly special operations forces, will be helping governments and militaries in central africa try to take down that violent guerrilla group, the lords resistance army, or lra, that's been terrorizing the people there for a couple of decades. the first of the 100 troops arrived in yow banda on wednesday with more to follow. some of the special op forces will be sent to south sudan, the central african republic and the democratic republic of the congo to provide training and support, but not engage in battle unless in defense. president obama said i believe that deploying these u.s. armed forces furthers u.s. national
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security interests and foreign policy and will be a significant contribution toward counter lra efforts in central africa. the pentagon says the mission for u.s. troops is to help local forces render the lra and its leader, joseph coney, quote, ineffective. one republican strategist questions, though, why the president decided to alert congress late yesterday even though it may be a worthwhile goal to get rid of coney. >> he's a particularly virulent terrorist. keeps a heram -- harem young village girls, impresses child soldier, requires them to kill their parents, for example, and he's a vicious guy and the united states is doing a useful thing here. but again, why the administration chose to sort of hide this on friday night. >> the white house says it's following a 2010 law where congress supported increased u.s. efforts to eliminate the
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threat posed by the lra. >> arthel: all right. thank you very much for that report. >> rick: the fighting is far from over in libya. rebel fighters now expanding their search for the remaining supporters of the former dictator there, moammar gadhafi. gadhafi loyalists still making their presence known after a major battle yesterday in the streets of tripoli. david piper is streaming live from tripoli with the very latest. >> yes. let's start first in sirte, gadhafi's hometown. the fighting is still continuing there at this hour. the revolutionary forces have changed tactics over the last 24 hours. they've been bringing up artillery and tanks to try to pummel gadhafi's followers there into submission. they're holding about a half mile square in the center of the town. we were actually there yesterday. we saw for ourselves these revolutionary fighters putting -- they were hoisting artillery on to the top of residential buildings and firing
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straight into the town trying to get those people to surrender. so far they have refused. you said also there has been some fighting here in the libyan capitol, tripoli, over the last 24 hours. revolutionary fighters, they've been going house to house today locking for any remaining armed gadhafi supporters here. they were in an area that held occupant the longest during the fight for the revolutionaries that came in over a month ago. now they're looking for them and hoping to pacify them over the next few days so that tripoli can remain peaceful. back to you. >> rick: david piper live in libya, thanks. >> arthel: all right. we go to washington now where thousands taking to the streets in the name of jobs and justice. their goal? forcing political leaders to find a way to get millions of unemployed americans back to
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work. peter doocy reports from washington. >> in the shadow of the washington monument today, no justice, no peace, and tax this -- pass this bill were am the chants. no justice, no peace, what kind of justice do you want? >> jobs. new jobs. >> jobs. >> jobs. everybody is saying jobs. how are you going to get the jobs? >> equality for the people and the children. good education, equality. justice. >> and you say no justice, no peace. what does that mean, no peace? >> you won't get any peace until we get justice. >> we won't stop speaking until they provide jobs for us. >> where are the jobs going to come from? >> wherever you find it. the government needs to find it and stop letting the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. >> all right. so you can see the people are very, very enthusiastic about this. a lot of matching t-shirts, something you don't see a lot of at the occupy wall street and occupy dc and occupy everywhere rallies.
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on the eve of the martin luther king memorial being dedicated a few hundred feet behind where we are right now, there is a lot of talk about how not only do they think there are not enough jobs, but not enough equality and they think congress is not doing a good job. it was anti-right wing. they said the right wing is assaulting the middle class and assaulting women, but they did at some time call democrats weak kneed because again, it is republicans and democrats together in the congress who have not passed this jobs bill that they want so badly just yet. the president, a democrat, has not signed it yet. he hasn't had the chance to, but they do say they think he's the one to get the job done. in washington, peter doocy, fox news. >> rick: well, this time of year, young kids in school learning about the fall holidays. thanksgiving coming up, of course. columbus day was just passed. and halloween. try telling that to one school principal in massachusetts. teachers in the town of summerville are being informed to avoid the holidays in the classroom. the principal says halloween's
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connections to witchcraft are problematic. she adds celebrating the atrocities committed by christopher columbus is insulting. here is what some of the kids think. >> i don't like it. i celebrated halloween since i was a little kid and i don't think it's right to ban it. >> i think it's kind of ridiculous because we should celebrate what we want to celebrate. we shouldn't be told what we shouldn't by other people. that's not even our family. >> rick: smart kid. teachers there have let kids know that they are not to dress up for halloween, at least not this year. >> arthel: ba humbug. being richer isn't always better. well, at least when it comes to being married. researchers found that couples who say they value having money and lots of things are more likely to have unstable marriages. that makes sense. researchers say money issues corinth to eroding
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communications and poor conflict resolution. the study also found that couples who said money wasn't important scored as much as 15% better on marriage stability issues. some of those studies are kind of like, yeah, you think? >> rick: have to do a study to learn that? his message, i have airdrome, still lives on today. dr. martin luther king will be honored tomorrow, taking his place among other national heros in washington, d.c we'll talk about what this all means while we take a live look at the occupy wall street protesters who are moving up new york now in times square. we'll follow the latest developments on that story as well. don't go away. ah looks like somebody's a winner. ha, not me! cause shipping is a hassle. different states, different rates. not with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service, if it fits it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. so shipping for the chess champ in charleston is the same as shippingor the football phenom in philly? yep. so i win! actually, i think you deserve this. no, i deserve this.
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>> rick: welcome back. here are the headlines. occupy wall street protests spreading around new york city and around the world. organizers holing several rallies in manhattan with the largest being in times square. i think that's the "good morning america" -- they're occupying the "good morning america" set right now. this comes as demonstrators in more than 80 different countries hit the street. we're learning more about the man accused of gunning down his ex-wife and eight others at a hair salon in southern california. friends and family say that he
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struggled with rage and mental health problems and a bitter custody battle drove him to violence. new zealand's environmental minister is blaming illegal short cut for an ongoing environmental disaster. am. >> arthel: it began almost a half century ago with those famous four words, i have airdrome. tomorrow a memorial to dr. martin luther king, junior, will be dedicated in our nation's capitol. he's just one of four nonpresidents to receive such a tribute and for many people, the timing could not be better. joining us now attention, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. who began his career as an ordained minister and top aide to dr. king. ambassador andrew young. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> arthel: so if dr. king's spirit were to sail above tomorrow's dedication, what
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would you say would be the prevailing feeling there? >> i think the prevailing feeling that he would have would be that the people who are occupying wall street really are direct continuity to our attempt to bring the poor people's campaign to washington in 1968. >> arthel: and you know that ambassador, that there are people who have a problem with the way the protesters, the current day protesters are behaving, if you will. if dr. king were here, would he advise them perhaps to do it in such a way -- >> no. >> arthel: go ahead. >> i think we would have organized it and we did organize it and we would determine to be nonviolent, to be nonviolent in spirit as well as physically nonviolent. i think, though, what we had here in washington maybe what's happening there. we found that we had a lot of government agents infiltrating
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our demonstrations that was stirring up trouble. and people whom we had trained from the south to be nonviolent were infused with groups that we didn't know. we had a very hard time controlling our demonstration and that was back in 1968. >> arthel: and there were, to say the least, very different times, sir. but are you intimating that perhaps that is happening in this current day, that perhaps there are infiltrates who are there trying to stir up the pot, if you will? >> i'm sure there are. and one of the things we said that anybody that is loud and wrong and ignorant and advocating violence is not in our interest. we must shun them aside. but this group is not trained. we had some 20 years of training by the time we got to washington. and this group is more spontaneous and i think that that's a danger, but given time,
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i think that there is some very simple issues. one is that the top 1% of the population in the u.s. now controls somewhere around 25% of the wealth. that there were specific decisions made to create strums like derivatives that people trade and make money and they don't produce any good for anybody, not even the people who are buying them. we have a lot of moral problems in our present day economy and they're not blamed on the president. the congress has to take some of the flame because the congress deregulated the financial interest. but i think every time the interests have been deregulated, their go ahead has brought their own destruction and we bail them out. i think that has to stop. >> arthel: do you believe that today's protesters are more
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politically fueled than what was happening back in the '60s? >> they're not nearly as political as we were. we were very, very political because we had just fought for some five years to get the right to vote. and so everything we did and said had a political implication to it. so does it now. >> arthel: but as you said, you were very organized and that's what i think some people are -- >> you see, dr. king started in 1957. it was cycle -- 55. it was 1967 when we -- 1968 when we got here. we had been through birmingham, selma, through voter registration drives from coast to coast. we had been to chicago, detroit, los angeles and coming to washington with a small disciplined group, and we were trying to keep it to 3,000.
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>> arthel: that kind of didn't work out, did it? >> well, it didn't when dr. king was killed because then everybody came. >> arthel: i mean that, sir, employees, with all due respect and i'm happy that some 250,000 people showed up when dr. king was there ultimately to deliver that i have a dream speech there, august 28, 19 # 3. i -- 1963. if you would, if you can go back to that day and tell me your thoughts. you were there, your thoughts, your feelings when those words were flowing out of dr. king's mouth. >> i was more interested in the early part of the speech, which said, america had presented the negro with a bad check and he said, but i refuse to believe that the bank of justice in america is bankrupt. i still have a dream. in a sense, that march, we heard the dream part, but he was saying very much the same thing as young people are saying on wall street today; that they are
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getting short changed by the american economy. >> arthel: i wish i had more time. i don't. >> i do. >> arthel: i thank you and i mean that on many levels. thank you very much. >> bye-bye. >> rick: folks out there might not agree with everything that he was saying there and some of the points, but we all owe him a great debt of gratitude for what he has done for all of us in this country, no matter what color our skin is, him and the entire civil rights movement. i'm glad you had that discussion. very interesting. the yale's apediatriciantive program getting exclusive access to some of the women in the reverend dr. martin luther mart, jr.'s family. anita king is a niece and talked about the mlk that she knew. >> we knew him not just as a world leader. he was a great preacher at ebenezer baptist church. i can remember his sermons.
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he and my father used to preach together. they were called the sons of thunder. so to know martin, our uncle as a preacher, as a father, we loved to go to their home. martin and coretta had great hospitality, all the people in our family had that and we went from home to home. he would be there, his laughter, he would tinkle a few notes on the piano. he would look at me and say, you're going to be a very pretty lady. your daddy and i are going to have to watch out and chase the guys away. and i used to just laugh, but i felt so safe because i knew he had my back. so that's the man that i remember. not just a leader. >> rick: martin luther king, junior as an uncle. we'll have more on this exclusive interview coming up on the fox report and then tomorrow morning on "fox & friends," you can watch our extended. >> could for the official dedication of the memorial in washington, d.c. that starts tomorrow morning right here on fox news. >> arthel: very good. herman cain is surging in the
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>> arthel: welcome back. it's the bam of the hour. time for the top of the news. protests turning violent in rome. torching cars and smashing windows. police forced to use tear gas to control the dangerous crowds. >> rick: a live look at times square in manhattan, new york city, as protesters, the occupy wall street protesters are hosting sell rallies around town with the largest one going on right now blocks from here in times square. >> arthel: apple will hold a special memorial service for steve jobs tomorrow. the company inviting the most important people in silicon valley to remember their founder. jobs died on october 5 of a a long battle with pancreatic cancer.
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>> rick: the current two gop front runners, according to polls, mitt romney and herman cain, each have their weaknesses with different groups of republican voters. romney not sitting well with the tea partiers. cain catching heat with fiscal conservatives for his 9-9-9 plan. with all the candidates, will one emerge as a candidate that all republicans can get behind? joining me now is former deputy assistant to president george w. bush, brad blakeman, and former kerry campaign youth director, alex andrea. brad, let me start with you. does the perfect gop candidate exist? >> they sure do and when the caucus, the primary system runs its course, we'll find that candidate. but i think the field as you suggest of 11 will be just that. and it will whittle down as we get past the first caucuses and primaries. and then we'll see how far it
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goes. it could go all the way to the convention. i kind of doubt it because we kind of front loaded the primary system this year. so we may have a nominee sooner rather than later. >> rick: as a democrat, how do you see the front runners in this race and what it says about the republican party right now? >> i just think it shows how fractured the republican party really is. they're going through a battle for the soul of the republican party. mitt romney representing the establishment republicans from 30 years ago. but not really even consolidating that base. and then herman cain coming long as kind of the new flavor of the week after rick perry crashed and burns and michelle bachman crashed and burned. it warms my heart to see this republican field. it certainly makes me feel a little bit better about the president's reelection prospects. >> rick: brad, i don't know, i think that sort of the angle that a lot of the main stream media takes is the one that we just heard, that this is a
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fractured party that republican party. what do you think about that and what do you think about the fact that a lot of people say that the battle for this nomination is very much a battle for the future of the gop? >> i think it's wishful thinking on the part of my counterpart. it's nonsense that we're fractured. look at going back to the last presidential election with hillary clinton and obama. was her party fractured when they had so many candidates initially running? it's called running to be selected before you're elected. it's perfectly ordinary, where you have a lot of candidates running and for the field to be whittled down once people go to the polls throughout the country to select their nominees. so i believe that the republicans are in great shape to retain the house, take the senate and take back the white house and i am very encouraged with the field we have. >> rick: last question for each of you about the tea party. what happens to the tea party, the future of that movement within the republican party if someone like mitt romney ends up
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winning the nomination? >> i think that if the tea party can't get their candidate through the primary cycle, it's really showing their diminishing power. however, i think that they'll continue to be a thorn in the side of the republican party establishment. that's not necessarily a bad thing. i agree that some friendly competition in the primary is a good thing, but you didn't see dennis kucinich emerging as one of our front run increase 2008. >> rick: brad, what do you think about the tea party if a moderate like romney ends up getting the nomination and if he does, do you see any chance of a third party candidacy, somebody with more tea party backing coming out and running against mitt romney and president obama? >> first of all, rick, the tea party is a party in name only. they don't field candidates. they don't have a united party organization. so they have more affinity to the republicans than any other party. and they want to beat obama. so i've got to believe that once the republican nominee is selected, tea party supporters will get behind the republican
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nomineement because they know that ram knee would be much better than the current president we have in and all that obama stands for is everything the tea party is against. >> rick: that's exactly what i hear as i talk with viewers in the chat room here at foxnews.com all week long. they may have some differences of opinions on this issue or that issue, but they all agree that they want to see president obama be a one-termer. so it will be interesting to see exactly how all that happens. good to talk to both of you, thank you both. >> thank you. >> arthel: all right. think about this for a second, getting a loan without ever going to a bank. sounds too good to be true, right? it turns out u.s. loan seekers are turning to a new place for help when it comes to start-up cash. each other. it seems to be working. casey stegall is live in los angeles with more. what is this all about, casey? >> it's called peer to peer lending and as you said, it is really gaining in popularity,
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especially with the volatility within the banking system. it's borrowing money from a complete stranger only in a safe and regulated way. when kathy chan started her own business, the biggest hurdle was funding. >> i wasn't comfortable with betting starting a new business by putting funds on a credit card and personal loans in general became really hard to get. >> so she opted for a loan that did not involve banks. kathy logged on to prosper.com, just one of the web sites specializing in peer to peer lending. >> take out the banks, take out the wall street players and just let people directly kind of have that opportunity to invest in other people. >> it allows you to borrow money from everyday investors who capture the profits that would typically go to a bank. >> you just see what they're needing the money for and how much they need and then you say, well, i'll give you this much. >> investors can give as little
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or as much as they want. so a peer to peer loan can come from one or dozens of people. oftentimes a borrower can even save money because the interest rates are much lower versus traditional credit lines. >> the good investment, i get 7 to 9, 10% interest. >> rick: noel took out a peer to peer loan when the interest on his credit card became too high to handle. >> it was just a great rate. it was easy to consolidate that loan, get it out of our hair. >> there are certainly risks involved here. most low for the investors because, of course, there is always a chance that the borrower could default on the loan. but get this, between 2009 and 2010, there was an 800% increase in these types of loans and the proof is in the pudding. more and more people are looking to do this because it's so difficult securing lines of
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credit at those banks. >> arthel: it certainly is and nobody wants regulations. but you kind of have to wonder who oversees those peer to peer loans. i don't know. >> yeah. it's the middle man. it's that web site and those businesses say that they do an awful lot of vetting to make sure that it is safe and secure. but who really knows? >> arthel: hopefully it works out and good for the people who are using it so far to their advantage. good to see you. >> rick: don't even ask me to borrow any money. >> arthel: just about to. give me $5. >> rick: when we come back, if you are a client of one of the country's biggest banks, you may have just been slapped with a big new fee for user your debit card. we'll tell you why that could be creating more places for you to save. how you might be able to take advantage of this, that's coming up next. there's only one bottle left !
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one of the things you want to lock at is yes, certain of the major debit card issuers like bank of america, who has been in the news have imposed a $5 per month surcharge on your account if you use your debit card to make purchases. now, you have to understand, let's start with two premises. one, the banks and credit card companies are never going to wake up and call you with a better deal and number two, it's your money. let's take some control of it. so it's a great opportunity as we enter the fourth quarter here, let's make a pact this weekend, we'll get all our statements together and find out exactly what we're waying, what benefits we're getting, what interest rates and fees, and then let's start next week and see what better offers might be out there. it's got very competitive out there. but there is certainly not all created equally. and the rates, terms, and benefits that you thought you were getting six months, a year
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ago might not be in place anymore. >> rick: let me ask but this swipe fee that they put in place at bank of america. i don't know what we just had on our screen for a second. but what is -- are there other companies now that are coming out and saying, you know what? if you don't want to pay that $5 fee, come over to us. we're offering a lower fees or no fees or better interest rates. how do you shop around for these cards? >> that is an absolutely great idea. from what i've seen so far, the surcharges of $5 a month, $3 a month are most low the major money center banks. whether it be the city banks or the wells fargos or the bank americas of the world. many, many smaller banks, regional banks, credit unions are a great place, internet banks. don't be scared of internet banks anymore. they've become very much like breck and mortar banks. they have checking accounts, very low fees. shop around. if you're uncomfortable shopping
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around, you don't like to make the phone calls, have somebody help you. maybe your grandson or granddaughter could be a fun project to do. >> rick: if you have an internet bank, can you get an atm card through that bank? >> absolutely. there is many of them that do. they operate just like a regular bricks and mortar bank. it's not as scary. you don't have to be some expert on the internet anymore. that world is changed very much. and because they don't have 500 or thousands of branches, they have a much lower cost structure and can oftentimes offer you a much better deal. >> rick: we have about 30 seconds left, these debit cards, folks like them because it's easy to keep track of your finances with them. the money comes right out of your account when you use them. but with all of these fees, i think a lot of people might be a little scared away by all of that and maybe they're going to stop using a debit card. what is your advice to clients when it comes to debit versus credit? >> my advice to you is don't cut
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off your nose to spite your face. if the use of the debit card has helped you get a much better handle on your personal finances, meaning not running up big credit card debt that you couldn't afford. a $5 a monthly surcharge in the grand scheme of things could be a very small price to pay for the financial improvement in your overall picture. i myself, i only use debit cards, but that's just me. so don't cut off your nose to spite your face. sit down and look at your own financial picture. if you got in trouble with credit cards in the past, let's not make that same mistake again. >> rick: michael, uni, good to see you. thanks very much. >> thank you. >> arthel: very interesting. >> rick: very interesting. >> arthel: camcorders. you have one? they've come a long way since the days of videotape. but with so many models to choose from, you're going to pull your hair out. don't worry about it, because we have our good folks from
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"consumer reports" to help us figure out which is good for you, your budget, et cetera. stick around. [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up! ♪ that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm [ male announcer ] for half the calories -- plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8. helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with the strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon.
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baby got out. the five-day old foal busted through an electrical fence and wandered into the pedestrian part of the zoo around 11:00 o'clock this morning. so they had to evacuate the zoo temporarily. things got back to normal after about 40 minutes or so when the foal returned and was contained. everybody is safe and sound. >> arthel: beautiful. the upcoming holidays, your kids school plays, or because you love having the new gadget, any excuse is a good one to buy a new camcorder. >> rick: this month's "consumer reports" takes a look at some models that will give you the most for your money. >> arthel: "consumer reports" associated electronics editor, terry is here with us. we are very excited. let's start with the kodak place board. what's this about? why is it good and how much is it? >> play sport, zx 5 is a rugged waterproof pocket camcorder. these are smaller. the nice thing about this one is
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that they're rugged and you can jump into a pool, hear the gurgling when you jump in. or rugged so you can take it skiing with you. you drop it, it's a really nice camcorder that is one of the better pocket camcorders that we found. >> arthel: waterproof. 120 bucks? >> they're cheap and thighs. >> arthel: good quality. we're going to the sony loggy. >> sure. this is, again, in the pocket, in the realm of the pocket camcorder. inheritors of the flip type of camcorder. >> arthel: i have that. >> really nice thing here is you can see yourself on the front -- there is two displays. one in the back and one in the front. kids love this. >> arthel: i just turned into a big kid 'cause i got excited when you showed me that. >> so it's really nice for kids. it's a little pricier than the play sport, but really did well in our tests. >> arthel: $170. >> exactly. >> rick: you have a couple of bigger models. these are not pocket ones. this first one says that's a 3
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d? >> yes. this is the panasonic sdt, 750. these are full size camcorders. these have much better imquality and many more features than the pocket camcorders. that's the one thing they have above that. additionally, you have 12 time zoom. you can zoom in and get closer to the action, unlike the pocket cam. also this has a 3 d compatible lens. you have to pay extra, about $200 extra, but if you have a tv that shows 3 d compatible dvds and so forth, you can use this and hook it up to your tv. >> arthel: that's great. the camcorder is 850 bucks? >> yes. >> rick: quite an investment. but very cool feature if you're into the latest technology. and then the last one that you have with you is a sony. >> pj 50. it's a really nice camcorder. 12 times optical zoom.
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kind of pricey at $1,000, but this one turns it into movie night. you can project the video and you're still right on the wall -- >> arthel: are you serious? >> really, really very nice, clear picture. so it's a real wow feature for a lot of people. >> rick: you were telling us that these last two cameras have like a memory card? >> exactly. the memory card comes -- actually it's a panasonic. the memory card comes out right here. you can flag it in right to your computer and you can -- >> arthel: there is your movie. love it. >> rick: just like with still pictures. how are sales of these items? as a father now, and i've got little kids, we went out and bought one of these cameras before our first one was born. it sits in a drawer now. all i use is my smart phone. >> that's a good point. the most common camera or camcorder you ever use is the one you have with you and that's
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why the cell phones are getting into the market here, but you won't get better image quality than you will with these. you certainly won't get optical zoom. if you're on the side lines shooting your kids from the baseball game, you'll have the whole wide field. you won't have johnny on the mound. >> arthel: i think people still like that. terry, thank you very much. >> rick: thank you. >> arthel: fun stuff. that's it for us. good to see you again. >> rick: yeah. thank you. and thank you for joining us, everybody. enjoy the rest of your weekend. harris faulkner is coming up next with "the fox report" so don't go away. >> arthel: stick around. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics...
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