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forever? >> it's fund meantly. >> his siblings grew up in kenya. >> thank you. >> greta: tonight a snarky white house. president obama taking a cheap shot at republicans in congress? is it a new campaign strategy and will it work? also confusion at the white house tonight a major part of the health care overhaul suddenly slips into critical condition. will it live or will it die? can the white house make up its mind about it senator lindsey graham goes on the record. donald trump dials. in donald trump adds his voice and star power to michele bachmann's campaign. you will hear from them both. first, republic presidential candidate and in some polls frontrunner mr. herman cain making remarks about a fence between u.s. and mexico. mr. cain said it was just a joke. is it? >> if they can build the great wall of china on the side of a mountain, centuries ago, we can
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build a fence on the southern border if we want to. [cheers] we can build a fence. [ applause ] >> y'all can't build that fence. well, i will tell you what, when i'm in charge of the fence we are going to have a fence. it's going to be 20 feet high and have barb wire on the top. it's going to be electrocuted -- electrified. and there is going to be a sign on the other side that says it will kill you. >> greta: mr. cain says he was just trying to get a laugh. here he is on "meet the press" yesterday. >> you said at an event in tennessee that you would build electrified fence on the border that could kill people if they tried to pass illegally. >> that's a joke. >> that's not a serious plan. >> no, it's not. >> you got a big laugh but that's not what you would do. >> that's a joke. i said america needs to get a sense of humor. >> greta: fox news senior political analyst brit hume joins us.
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he says it's a joke. i guess it's for the voters to decide whether it's a joke or funny or not. it certainly is stirring up controversy. >> it's hard to tell from that clip whether he was joking or not it didn't really sound like he joking. what this suggests, greta, for all the alienation that voters feel from professional politicians. if in the end if you are running for president it's not advantage not to be seasoned. these are the kinds of remarks that newcomers tom game are prone to make. they then have to backtrack or say they were joking or whatever. what it does is shuts down whatever other message they may be trying to get out during the period in question. so it hurts. >> bill: does he have latitude because is he a professional politician. >> i think he has some, yeah. one of the most appealing political figures i have seen in a long time. this isn't his first track meet. he has run for office before but not successfully so he can say that he has not been a professional politician. but i think his inexperience
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shows. there are wide gaps in his knowledge which i don't think are hurting him that much now. as time goes on and people take a harder look at him if his snubs stay high i think these things about begin to hurt him. >> greta: rasmussen poll puts him ahead of president obama within the margin of error. other polls running neck in neck or short behind governor romney for the nomination. why? >> there is a level of aversion to romney among conservative republics which means most republicans. they don't -- they think changed positions on too many issues from positions that they didn't like to positions they are supposed to like but they don't trust. there was also this quality that he had about him, you saw it most in evidence during the last campaign for president where he seemed sort of stiff and verith not a very natural politician. he has done better i think in that regard. he is still quarter of the republic electorate. all sort of people keep shooting
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past him and then collapse him. voters looking for alternative and i think they are looking. >> greta: governor christie got out his poll numbers didn't change. when governor christie endorsed him his poll numbers didn't change governor romney. when governor romney did well in the debate last week his numbers didn't changed. he doesn't seem to move the dial at all. >> dr. is another number that is important than whether he is moving the polls on individual events that is he does he have well as a lot of people's second choice. suggests when it gets down to it with him still in the race and other candidates, you mow, keep rising and falling some are going to run out of money and probably fairly soon. romney will be somebody that a lot of people won't have that much trouble with as their second choice which i think is an important number to keep an eye on. >> greta: news tonight out of iowa that they are going to have their caucus january 4th, which is quite soon as we all know it.
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whose benefit is it to have it rushed upon us quickly. >> candidates for herman cain who are up in the polls and everybody is fascinated with them and doing great. they don't have any organization or anything on the ground in knows states. haven't been complaining there. going to be hurt by this. candidates been arranged lingerer and put more resources in place will benefit by having it earlier. >> greta: at least i think it's easier to run in a state like new hampshire voting rather than dragging everybody out from school or family and bring them down to somebody's house and vote. >> that's true. even in a state like new hampshire where people go and vote still a tremendous advantage big organization money where you can afford buses and turn people out. on election day a lot of politics is just old fashioned ground game where you go, identify your supporters, and get them to the polls. >> greta: the name recognition, the speaker gingrich tells me if he is going iowa. >> i wouldn't rule it out.
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iowa is a very unpredictable place. sneaker gingrich carrying the burden of being everybody's mans. he does well in debates. the debaste have been august that there has been to the campaign which people can see. kept a lot of people in the race who otherwise would be gone right now. all you need is a plain ticket and hotel room to participate in debate. stasm billing and position as the frontrunners. >> greta: do you see the first to win iowa picking up south carolina also. >> i don't think that's possible to tell. intervening event in new hampshire. new hampshire is notoriously hard on frontrunners. if you come roaring out of iowa that's no guarantee that you will do that well in new hampshire. in fact, i was thinking about this earlier. romney makes some kind of a great showing, unexpected showing in iowa it might end up hurting him in new hampshire. they are know tore yufersly hard on frontrunners. if you are coming off a big loss in new hampshire, recovering in south carolina from mitt romney
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who really doesn't get the political profile of south carolina all that well could be difficult. >> governor romney's sons and went to all the counties in iowa. he didn't come in first in iowa. i don't see a lot of ground game for him in iowa. he seems to have passed that up a little wit. >> he is saying is he. he has lot of assets in iowa and he would like to do well there. >> greta: he would. >> he is not building expectations. he is trying very hard to. where he has issues is new hampshire. >> changed your jack of jacket. >> making all kinds of problems on the air and causing psychodelic jacket. cycle lick on "special report" and cycle lick on o'reilly. this is going to be psychodelic on greta. >> greta: i didn't know if viewers should know you changed your jacket just for me. crump joined g.o.p. presidential candidate representative michele bachmann for a twelve town hall
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meeting tonight. both took questions from callers. >> when i left the race, as michelle will tell you, i was leading in the polls. and i couldn't understand why somebody didn't pick up what i was saying about china, about opec, and that's why i was leading not just the birth certificate which i'm very proud of. i got this guy to could something he didn't want to do. somebody should continue to analyze that whole deal by the way. but the fact is i was really heavy on china and opec and doing great in the polls. i don't understand why more people don't pick it up other than the lobbyists got to him. >> >> said at the beginning of call by 2015 according to the international monetary fund china will ellipse the united states as the number one economic super power of the world. now, this halls profound implications because this will be the last presidential election when the united states is the premier economic super power of the world. one thing ronald reagan
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understood, you have to be the economic super power if you want to be the military super power. >> i have always wondered and i'm still wondering why presidential candidates don't team up and make their ticket up well in advance of the primaries. >> and so i would ask you both the question would you consider a trump bachmann ticket? or visa versa? >> well, i don't think that's what we are here for tonight but i will say this, the i have gotten to know michelle very well and other candidates it's a far cry from what we have in the white house now and huge improvement. >> what do you think michelle has to do to get back on top in the g.o.p. candidates? >> well, can i just say this. this she is a terrific person. a terrific woman. she is a smart woman. she is respected by everybody. can i tell from you meeting with all of the other candidates she is very universally respected by
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the other candidates. and, you know, there are a lot of factors both good and bad and luck and so many things involved. she is saying a lot of the right things. she resonates with a lot of people. she went up like a rocket ship. i think when governor perry came in he really took some of her thunder and you and i have discussed that, michelle. i don't know right, right, wrong, or indifferent, i think she is really doing an excellent job. >> greta: well now to the battle over jobs. it is getting nastier by the minute. actually, it's getting snarky. here is president obama taking a shot at congressional republicans today. >> what we're going to do is brake up my jobs bill. maybe they couldn't understand the whole thing all at once. [ laughter ] >> so we're going to break it up into bite size pieces. so they can take a thoughtful approach to this legislation. >> greta: now, the president isn't the only one getting a bit snarky today. white house press secretary jay carney on air force one talking to reporters accuses the republicans of not having an
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effective jobs plan. in the midst of all the sarcasm and snarkiness, a fox news poll shows a third of voters think the president's re-election strategy is to drive people apart with a partisan message. on the flip side for the president 56% think he is trying to get people together with a hopeful message. washington political examiner chief political correspondent byron york joins us. good to see you, byron. >> good to be here. >> greta: snarky? am i wrong or are they being a touch is that correcty. >> just a little bit. not the worst in the world. a little jab by the president at republicans saying i wanted to pass my bill in one big piece but apparently it was too complicated for them to understand so we will cut it in little bitty pieces and they can pass it. the problem is the reason he couldn't get it passed was that he didn't have as much democratic support as he wanted. there were democrats in the senate who would join republics in opposing the bill. >> greta: that's where it gets snarky though and less truthful. that's the whole point. he wasn't saying i can't get the support because for whatever
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reason. he didn't come out and say i can't get harry reid to do what i want. this is a very partisan. by the way, the white house says this isn't an official visit. it's not a political visit it's a official visit. >> greta: this one. >> not campaign it's official visit. >> problem here that harry reid is taking things into his own hands. remember there was a point in the fight other the debt ceiling where harry reid and mitch mcconnell said to the white house okay, guys, you get out of, this we'll take care of it, now harry reid has done the same thing with this jobs bill saying i know you would like it passed in one piece, mr. president, we're going to cut it up in pieces. we're going to change the way we fund it we're going to make these changes and then we will get it done. they are really in charge here. >> greta: i thought last week we he had ed henry getting slapped around a little bit saying are you the governor romney spokesperson and then today
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white house press secretary making comment not having a jobs plan. whether you like the jobs plan i know senator bachmann had one last may. portman, paul had one last week. speaker boehner had one he showed me last week. it would be different to say look their ideas just aren't any good. they are not effective. instead, being a little bit lame. >> to be fair, the president, if you read both of his speeches today in north carolina, he said here's my jobs plan. it's really great. here's their jobs plan have dirtier air, dirtier water and lose a lot of jobs. did he do a comparative part of his speech. but it was not really the whole part. by the way, i talked to some people in the senate on the way over tonight the house is going to pass a little part of the president's jobs bill probably next week. republicans are going to pass. it's repealing a 3% tax on government contractors. the senate could pass that if they wanted to. there is a piece of that bill they could pass next week. that's not what either side wants to do.
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they are trying to score points against each other. >> greta: name of the game both sides at this point. they both said even the president's jobs bill there are things in the president's jobs bill that the republicans did like and do like. >> they like the trade agreements and finally got those passed. >> greta: other things as well that there is no sort of incentive really to work together. >> what democrats have done and what the president was talking about today they have cut out a $35 billion part of the bill which would give money to teachers, fire, and police. and they are daring the republicans to vote against teachers, firemen, and police officers. and it has a little bitty tax increase, i think half a percentage point on people making a million dollars or so. so a portion of the millionaire's tax that the president wants. they are trying to find the most appealing, hard to oppose part of the bill and put it up and dare republicans to. >> greta: democrats in the senate like the president what he is doing? >> the majority of them support the bill. they would rather not.
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>> greta: how about the president? are they worried that the president -- those who are up for re-election. >> those up for re-election people like ben nelson and john tester have great reservations about this bill. they actually voted with the republicans to filibuster this bill. there are some democrats who would let the bill go forward but they wouldn't support it if it came to up or down vote. there are a lot of democrats nervous about supporting the whole thing. >> greta: byron, thanks for being here. >> good to be here. >> greta: white house waffling about major provision of the health care law. is the white house backing down. senator lindsey graham here next. fiery crash claims the life of a champ. you will see that crash. on the record and the last place expect to get fired on on capitol hill. two respected generals, one you know very well under attack. see why they are being part of it and how they are firing back. ♪ most brewers have a dash of hops we use a pound of hops per barrel. we add some caramel malt to that.
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>> greta: flip flop? well, over the weekend, maybe. on friday the obama administration said a major provision of the health care law was dead on arrival. now the white house may be changing its mind. what is it and what happened? senator lindsey graham joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> greta: on friday class act wouldn't do that as part of the
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national health care what is the class act. >> class act was an attempt to raise money to pay for obama health care. >> greta: national health care bill or separate from. >> part of the obama health care. class act would allow the federal government for the first time ever to get into long-term health care insurance business. you can buy long-term health care now. the federal government was going to sell it as a new entitlement and the money collected in policeman yums for the first 10 years of the program were going to be used to pay for obama health care to cover the uninsured. the "the washington post" -- >> greta: you mean people outside the class act or finance the class act during the -- >> -- the money collected in premiums from class act insurance sales was not going to be used in the first 10 years to pay people when they wanted their health care. it was going to be used to make obama health care deficit neutral. called a ponzi scheme. kent conrad said this class act was a ponzi scheme that would make bernie madoff blush. a ponzi scheme is when i take money from you and i take your
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money to pay somebody that gave me money the week before and there is really nothing there other than people passing money around. the class act was the government selling insurance in a way it's never sold before. a new entitlement and only the sickest people in the country would sign up for it first 10 years collect $78 billion in premiums. that 78 billion was being used by the obama administration to pay for obama health care as a system. 2029 the cbo says the class act comes unraveled and you would have to bail it out. and that's why last friday somebody in the obama administration said we have got a nightmare on our hands. we can't let this thing ever get started. it will blow a hole in the budget. the problem with all of this is when they sold obama health care to the senate, they said the class act would help americans and it would make the obama health care deficit neutral. no longer is that the case. >> greta: all right. class act people. not talking about legal class
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action. class act. >> community living services and supports. what it is is that you could buy health care through the federal government to help you live at home when you got sick. >> greta: let's say 20 years from now. i pay from now 20 years from now when i need it i could draw down on it? >> exactly. the federal government won't have the money in 2029 to pay your claim. >> greta: meantime what would they do when the money i pay now. >> use it to owe pay for obama health care. that's why it's ponzi scheme. you gold to jail if do you it in private sector. >> greta: the money i have been paying too and everything else has been used for something else. >> federal government says you have all these people promised health care don't have the money we bail them out. >> greta: unfortunately washington does all these sort of weird financial schemes. why is this one going to get bumped out? >> because the people who looked at it has said it just doesn't work. >> greta: that's never stopped the government before. >> well, good news. it did this time. the critics of the bill said the
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class act was a ponzi scheme. this was a democratic senator. john thune and myself introduced legislation the day after obama health care was signed in law saying repeal the class act. new entitlement add hundreds of billions of dollars to the deficit over time. here is the problem. if we knew then what we know now that this thing won't work and the 78 billion they counted on to pay for obama health care wasn't on the table, then you could never say obama health care was deficit neutral. this is an example of this bill notwithstanding scrutiny. there is 6 million waivers given already under this legislation. >> greta: as i understand though class act thing we want people obviously we don't want people to be suffering. is that i can buy this now for myself when it goes into effect. but i could also wait until i got sick to see if i needed it. so why would i buy it now? why don't i wait 20 years to see if i need it? >> that's why i like this show the cbo said nobody is going to buy this until you get sick.
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adverse selection. >> greta: estimating what we think people would pay in it using money to make it deficit neutral. >> greta: that's a little nuts, isn't it. >> not only was it dumb it's dangerous. you are selling a product. you are taking the premium money instead of putting the money aside to pay for people when they want their health care under the private you sold you took the money and used it to finance obama health care and somebody in cbo finally woke up and said you know what the republicans said about this a year and a half ago is actually true. so they killed the program. now they are saying today well it's not really dead. we are going to introduce legislation in the senate this week to kill this program. >> greta: last week i think it was hhs secretary sebelius who said it was dead. >> yeah because it won't work. >> greta: over the weekend they got some heat from people -- >> -- here is the big news. this bill was coming unraveled. obama health care is coming unraveled. the supreme court will be hearing a case about the individual mandate. the administration, the obama administration has given 6 million waivers to the mandates in this bill.
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>> greta: nobody is paying into the fund. >> 6 million people. mostly union members have gotten a waiver from the mandates created by obama health care because they cost so dang much money. medicaid expansion. governors are saying you are going to bankrupt my state if medicaid expansion goes in effect under obama health care. bill coming unraveled. the class act was a bad idea. thank god it's not going to ever happen. >> greta: thank you, sir. champion racer killed in a massive pileup. you will see it here. hear from another driver who was right in the middle of the danger zone. these next. also, she is still hollywood's it girl. betty white lands exciting new role and unlike anything she has ever done before. give you a sneak peek. [ whistle blows ] oh! [ baby cryg ] ben harper: ♪ what started as a whisper every day, millions of people choose to do the right thing
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>> greta: unthinkable tragedy and tonight calls to change for indycar racing dan wheldon was killed yesterday in a fiery crash at the las vegas motor speedway. horrific scene played out on live tv. >> open in front of him and whoa, here we go. cars back in a huge crash. up in turn number two. multiple cars involved. oh my! it looks like dan wheldon may be involved in it. >> "sports illustrated" columnist bruce martin says the crash started right in front of him. he joins us. since it looks so different on
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tv than in person tell me what you saw. >> well, i was at the edge of pit road entering in the turn one. i was down by an izod v.i.p. pit area suite where not only could you see the tracks but there was some hi def screens to watch it as soon as it all happened, the first thing that i noticed was just, you know, the fireballs of the cars that crashed. you could see the cars airborne which is not a sight that you ever see at indycar race. but with the nature of the way this race had played itself out and with the cars being as tightly bunched as they were, going over 220 miles per hour, there had been fear that the possibility of something like this existed. danica patrick on thursday basically said the race will be crazy and crashes spectacular. during the red flag yesterday i had a chance to talk to her in her pit area she came up to me and said when i said that i knew there was a bad chance something like this could happen. i'm just sorry it ended up being
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a prophetic statement. >> greta: how many cars were in this race? >> there were 34. typically at indycar race mile and a half oval starting field will be anywhere from 26 to 28 cars it was the last race of the season. there was a lot of promotion that was being put into this event. tried to get indycar a little more attention since it lags behind other racing series such as nascar for interest in the united states. dan wheldon was being part of a 5-million-dollar bonus. if he was able to win the race from last starting position he would 5-million-dollar with a fan. no separation between the good cars and bad cars really kind of created a situation like this to happen. >> greta: is that what it was two cars essentially colliding with each other setting off a chain reaction? is that -- i mean it just got too close and too fast?
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no actually cars ahead of that, one car driven by sebastian had started to slip in the turn and the car behind him slowed down. and by slowing down that then created the situation where one of the other cars driven by j.r. hildebrand ran into the back of wead cunningham's car. hildebrand's car was the first car go airborne. once that happened there was nowhere for the other cars behind him to go. dan wheldon unfortunately was one of those cars. >> greta: bruce, thank you, obviously terrible, terrible tragedy. thank you, bruce. >> thank you. >> greta: as bruce noted and as the video shows the violent crash sent several race cars flying flute air. lloyd was behind the wheel of one of them. amazingly he was unhurt. alex lloyd joins us by phone. i guess you are a very lucky man tonight. >> yeah. absolutely. i think a lot of us are but i mean that's not even
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something -- to be honest something i haven't even thought about since the accident. my whole thoughts have been with dan wheldon and his family. >> greta: how well did you know him. >> i think everybody new dan wheldon well. he was that kind of a guy that he made everybody feel special. everybody was his friend. being british myself when i came over here six years ago he really befriended us and helped us find our feet over here in america. and gave us advice on how best to pursue my career over here and what to expect and, you know, we had -- i had three young children. he has two young children. that really brought us a little bit closer. my wife game friends with his wife and the whole indycar community is really all the drivers, all the team members we're all good friends there is really no rivalry outside of the racetrack. it's a very difficult situation for everybody. >> greta: very tiff to see the tape of this very happy family and even to watch this accident. now, your car actually was
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airborne in this? >> no. if you saw the on board shot a minute ago where it was actually the number 12 of will power he went airborne he went over the back of my car so when you see that on board footage that was me that he hit and went over the back of. so, you know, just washing the replays now it's terrifying. more terrifying watching it than it was being in the car because you really didn't get the magnitude of what had just happened until you stepped out of the car and it looked like a scene from world war iii. it was something completely out of this world. >> greta: when did you first notice that there was something really wrong was it the car slowing down or flames or what was it that you first realized there was a problem? very serious one? >> well, you first see smoke. you see cars touch. and you know immediately that's a problem. our cars can't touch. you try to slow down as much as you can.
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i thought for a minute i might have avoided it. and then i got hit from behind and everything happened so fast though that you really don't have a chance to even comprehend what had happened. before i knew it the car came to rest and you thought okay i'm okay and you try to radio into your pit crew so they can let family and everybody know that i'm okay. i'm going to get out of the car now. and then as time went on over the next 15, 20 minutes suddenly the magnitude really hit home as to what had just happened. i think it's still sinking in for myself and probably for everybody right now. >> greta: anything about that particular race course that made it particularly dangerous? >> you know, racing is obviously very dangerous when we get to tracks like this, the danger goes up. we're all aware of that. you know, we were all aware that, you know, bad things could happen on this race. i don't believe that anybody really thought that something of this nature would happen. i have never seen anything like this.
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you know, i think in the future we need to look at what we can learn from this and what we need to do in the future to prevent accidents like this. but now for myself and probably a lot of the other drivers and people who are close to dan, really it's not the time for us to think about that. the time right now is for us to remember dan the great person he was and great husband and father that he was. and, you know, think about him and his family at this time and we have plenty of time over the off season and right people i'm sure will be in place to look at what we need to do for the future. >> greta: alex, thank you. thank you for joining us. i realize it's a very tough time for you and everybody else who knew dan. thank you. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, you will see this. a battle caught on camera between members of congress and to decorated generals. to decorated generals. bob scales goes "on the reco [ courier ] the amazing story of whether bovine heart tissue can make it from australia to a u.s. lab to a patient in time for surgery may seem like a trumped-up hollywood premise.
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>> this is a fox news alert, in new york. breaking news from the mideast. word just in that israeli army sergeant is in egypt after five years in the hands of palestinian militants. a short time ago, members of the family were seen departing for an air force base in central israel. the 25-year-old soldier is due to arrive there within hours and will be groated there by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. it was an historic prisoner swap deal. the heavily armed convoy began to release the palestinian inmates to gaza near dawn. more convoice will follow throughout the day. nearly 2500 palestinians are due to be freed on tuesday and 550 to be released two months from now. back to "on the record." for all of your headlines, go to foxnews.com. you are watching the most powerful name in news.
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foxnews.com. >> greta: two u.s. generals under attack not by al qaeda but by members of coming congress. u.s. mexico border. called to congress to report to findings, two texas congressman didn't like. went to wendy. >> all i found out was an an dick total -- antidotal evidence. i would have got an f, don't you think anybody that would render this as a ph.d. would have done a report? >> not only done ph.d., six books three hundred scholarly articles. i know a little bit about how to write. no, that's not how we did it. >> wait, washington, d.c. is at 23. we're here in washington. wouldn't you call washington, d.c. a war zone? just a yes or no. >> the questions are never
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answered with yes or no. >> i'm asking you just janchts i'm not going to answer a question with general. >> thank you. >> we are talking by each other. >> you were paid $80,000 as former former military tax dollars to make this report; is that correct? >> we had five people work four months on this report. and i assure you. >> sir, general, with all due respect, general. >> will the gentleman yield for a second. i believe they are respected generals and we need to show respect and allow them to answer the question. >> let me ask my question again. were you paid $80,000 yes or no? >> let me ask you, are you suggesting that this report had political or monetary motivation? if you are, sir, that is a shameful comment. >> let me say. >> my dedication to this country was based on 32 years of service. >> general.
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>> major general bob scales joins us. and let me be the first to apologize. [ laughter ] >> greta: i'm real really ashamed. i know you very well. i know general mccaffrey very well. you were called up to give information about your report and i think it's scannedless the way you were -- scandalous the way you were treated. >> berry and i have served in the military shot at many times. >> greta: usually you expect the enemy though. >> in this case the shots were verbal. i think that the congressman was really took a personal attack on both of us. and impound our integrity and motive and that's what barry and i got most upset about. >> greta: he didn't do it to me and i'm embarrassed. you know what? you guys did a report. you went up there to tell the report. fair report.
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you and i have been million times background talk about. i thought it was terrible. >> yeah. embarrassing. what we wanted to do was to get our message across. we didn't want to go through some verbal sparring contest with congress. that's what it devolved into. tell the tell about mexican narcoterrorists who extended their reach into the united states. who have gang member infantry men in a thousand cities in this country making somewhere between 28 and $36 billion a year off of this. and a terrorist groups that are beginning to act less like criminals and more like insurgents. military insurgents. this is a very big problem. >> greta: we have been down there. i was warned when i was down there. media in south texas. and you know, i don't know how much is exaggerated by what people tell us. it's hard not to believe it is a
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serious problem with an open border, known civil war going on down there. latest terrorism thing iran thing we heard about last week. there is something there. i don't know the magnitude but to show the disrespect of two people who had gone down there and studied with others is just extraordinary. >> we had one guy who testified with us dr. mike vickers who was a veterinarian county of 7,000 citizens. over the years he has autopsied or discovered over 600 dead people in his county. this is not just incidental. these are homicides. these are people left in the desert to die. many of them women sexually abused. this is not just incidental conflict. this is a very very serious affair. and most of it is occurring in the unpopulated counties along the texas border in those empty areas where the narcoterrorists are still able to invade our country. >> greta: two c nel who were, i think, unbelievably rude. one is from laredo and one is from el paso.
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why did they do that do you think? what was their motive. >> part chamber of commerce speech. they wanted to if emphasize that crime is not so bad in their cities. it's not. the narcoterrorists are going to the empty spaces rather than the cities. that would make sense. in the elm tear go to where the military is weakest. in this case it's in those empty spaces between the cities. not in the cities. that's the point we tried to make to them during the hearing. >> greta: maybe ignorance a little bit. could be. once again i'm terribly sorry. i know your reputation. i know you and i know general mccaffrey's reputation and i'm sorry. >> thank you, greta. >> greta: no more fun than this betty white going wild. latest role may seem shocking. not typical running of the bulls. not in spain. where is it? start guessing. here is a hint. close. plus lady gaga finds a not so [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up! ♪
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>> greta: you have seen our top stories the best of the rest. the streak continues betty white once again proving she is still hot in hollywood. 89-year-old actress is now starring in a knew music video. it's a remix of the british dance hit i'm still hot. >> check out betty's beef. >> i'm still hot
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♪ ♪ i hope they will put lifetime ♪ big cash in no time ♪ i'm living life at the top ♪ guess what i'm still hot ♪ i'm still a golden girl ♪ i may be a senior ♪ so what? ♪ i'm still hot ♪ i'm still hot >> greta: all the proceeds from this video will benefit the los angeles zoo. and, no, this is not pam pamplona it's arizona. two dozen bulls chasing them on desert track. some dressed up in the traditional red and white similar to spain. organizers say this bull run is safer, the bulls are actually rodeo animals. still everybody had to sign liability waivers. >> different in a race of a different kind in australia. those odd looking vehicles are solar powered electric cars and they are racing in the world solar challenge.
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37 teams taking part. all the racers are college students around the world. the university of michigan team placed in the top five of the weekend trials. but the race isn't over yet. and a side note, we are lety sure those solar panels they didn't come from solyndra. lady gaga sing as special happy birthday to president bill clinton channeling marilyn monroe changing the word to bad romance. the pop super star performed the song on abc "the view" ♪ bad romance ♪ whoa whoa caught in a bad romance ♪ whoa ♪ caught in a bad romance ♪ rah, roman ♪ gaga owe la la ♪ want your bad romance.
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