huge. even more shocking he was killed by an escaped tiger from ohio. >> didn't know you could make jokes about both of those stories if you combine them. bill: it's possible, right? great to have you in. you guys have a great weekend too. see you on monday. jon: the weekend is upon us. happy friday to you. jenna: weekend almost here. jon: i'm jon scott. jenna: hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. we're glad you're spending a bit of your friday with us today. we're here in the fox newsroom. we have new news on the labor market the. jon: good news for at least part of the country. the unemployment rate fell in half of u.s. states last month but still not enough to pull down the nation's unemployment rate. that remains at 9.1%. that comes after the senate rejected a big piece of president obama's jobs bill.

jenna: mike emanuel in washington with more on this. mike, any comment from the white house on the measures that failed in the senate last night? >> reporter: they are aggravated by one bill passing. the other one not much of a complaint. the other one upset, first-responders, $35 billion to put first-responders back to work and people back in the classrooms. the president issuing this response late last night, quote, for second time two weeks every single republican in the united states senate chosen to oppose a bill that would create jobs and get our economy going again. that is unacceptable. the president is pledging to continue to fight to bring up pieces of the american jobs act. the other as peak failed last night one brought up by republican scott brown of massachusetts that would have rolled back the withholding tax. senate democratic leadership didn't like some aspects of that bill. that was another aspects of the president's plan that

also failed last night, jenna. jenna: interesting. as we take a look at some of the back and forth happening in the senate the president signed into law some economic measures today that actually had bipartisan support. a rare thing it seems these days. jon: mike. tell us a little bit about that. >> reporter: that's right. the free-trade agreements with south korea, colombia and panama. it was a rather low-key signing. the president signing those into law. as you mentioned rare bipartisanship in washington these days. after some back and forth on those free trade deals they do go into law. they believe it will increase american exports by $13 billion a year annually and also creates tens of thousands of jobs for many people throughout our country. jenna: we'll take some agreement where we can, mike and continue watching this play out down in d.c. thank you very much. >> thank you. jon: brand new information now from inside libya where people are today celebrating the beginning of a new era.

we're learning the burial of slain leader, muammar qaddafi is being delayed now the as questions are raised over exactly how he died. david piper is streaming live from the capitol city of tripoli. david? >> reporter: hi, jon, yes. that delay in the burial of qaddafi's body is due to a third party getting involved. i believe international criminal court. they want to examine the body now because they had of course war crimes charges against qaddafi. there is very graphic video out there of course. that is a warning. the details we have now are pretty graphic as well. we understand qaddafi's body is in cold storage near an old market in misurata. it was displayed and driven around on the hood after car overnight in that car and also taken from house to house so that fighters could have their pictures taken with the body. now there is also a lot of lively debate at this time of what exactly happened when qaddafi was dragged from that storm drain in his

hometown of sirt. what libyan authorities are claiming he got shot when he was actually captured and being taken to the car, one in the stomach and again shot in the head later in the car. this is all in cross fire. there was no kind of execution of qaddafi. but there is some video out there that does suggest that he was also placed on a car and driven around while still alive. we do understand he was talking to the fighters at that time and he said, what's going on in don't kill me or my sons. so he was still alive when they captured him. now today there's no real celebrations here in the capitol of tripoli. it is very quiet. this is of course the muslim day of prayer but they're gearing up for saturday when the libyan authorities are going to announce that the whole country has been liberated. they're going to make that announcement in benghazi, the seat of where the libyan authorities are now, which is controversial, jon, in

its own right but the people here will be glad that qaddafi's regime is not come back. back to you. jon: david piper streaming live to us from tripoli. david, thank you. jenna: joining us former new mexico governor bill richardson. he is also former u.s. ambassador to the united nations. governor, good to have you back with us today. >> thank you, jenna. jenna: i like to start our conversation playing a little sound from charles krauthamer last night on "special report". let's listen to that. >> i think it would a mistake that the president pretends that he could claim mission accomplish as bush administration attempted. stage one is the beginning. the really hard part is getting a regime in the end democratic and from the american perspective is friendly to american interests. jenna: so, in the vein of not wanting to repeat past mistakes and wanting to do the best for our country right now have we been clear enough what type of regime we want to see in libya?

>> what we want to see is a democratic regime. we recognize they haven't had any democratic institutions for 40 years. that it is going to be difficult but i think we've got to help the new bought. government. we have to unfreeze the assets of qaddafi for economic rebuilding. we have to secure weapons but i disagree with that statement he made. i think it is a triumph of american diplomacy. one, the president didn't commit any troops. nato firepower was mainly american. we did prevent a humanitarian catastrophe. the new technology of the drones, the new technology of the lightning raids was vital. nato took the lead. so i think the administration deserves credit for a policy where nato led but we were right there in there. now, our obligation now, i believe is to work with other nato countries. we don't have to take the lead to develop a civil

society system, elections and they have to cooperate with the international criminal court, jenna because i think that, it's too bad that he wasn't tried in an international court or libyan court but obviously emotions were running so, so strong. jenna: you mentioned a triumph for the administration. it seems that charles was saying we don't want to throw the banner of mission accomplished like we did in iraq. we know when president bush did that there were many years before that mission was accomplished and depends on what camp you're talking to about whether or not it ever was. that being said if we take this as a triumph how do we take it and expand it to other regions in the area? do you have a good sense of our gameplan what we're doing in the middle east in north africa? >> the next obvious area is syria and the problem with syria there is no international consensus like there was with libya. for instance, at u.n. security council russia and china are opposing what we want to do which is put

substantially more sanctions on syria. so it's a different situation. the syrian people don't want us to intervene militarily. what we have to do is a build a coalition of countries in europe around the world to put some serious economic sanctions, personal sanctions on the syrian leadership, find a way, i think to strengthen the democratic forces there. what is happening in syria i think there's a lot of momentum in syria after what happened to qaddafi. after what's happened in the arab spring and that's encouraging and we should continue to encourage that develop meant there but other parts of the middle east, egypt and yemen these democratic forces are winning, we should associate ourselves, the united states government and we're doing that. jenna: you said the syrian people don't want us to intervene militarily but today we're hearing we don't have great information on syria, the protests picking

off the momentum from the killing off of qaddafi. the question based on resources with a coalition like nato are we being hypocrites by not extending same resources to people of syria, yemen or otherwise to the people we did of libya? >> no. i think, jenna, you have to have support from within. the syrian people, the opposition, they don't want a military intervention. they want assistance. they want pressure on the regime. they want support, international support at the united nations. we're doing all that. syria is the lynchpin in the middle east. it's strategically more important to us, to european countries than libya. that's the reality. libya was important because of energy, because of the oil. 2%, especially in the mediterranean. syria, you involve hamas, hezbollah, iran, we've got to protect israel. we've got to be sure that israel is in a situation now. it has a really bad neighborhood.

turkey is turning against israel. egypt. so we've got to be careful that we not, you can't have a one-size-fits-all for every country. jenna: tying in really quickly the story we led with the jobs. i list a couple countries here, pakistan, yemen, iran, afghanistan, iraq. you have domestic issue at home which is the economy. what do you think is the message to the american people where our priority lies abroad? you said syria is the lynchpin in that area. why are we not being most aggressive to the lynchpin versus some of the other satellite countries in area? >> i think, jenna, what the president said in libya and what he's saying in syria that our priorities are at home. we've got to do something about the economy, about creating jobs. this is why our involvement with nato and libya was limited but effective. this is why what we're doing in syria is effective too. no deployment of troops. no aggressive military

presence. but i think what has been developed here, that will be very useful in the middle east is these new drones with videos. the lightning raids that we did in libya. the air power component. so, i think the president deserves credit for what he's doing but it's so important that the jobs situation in this country, i think the message is, look, we did the right thing in libya. it was limited. we're not gloating over it but what we want to do now is concentrate on the economy and i wish, i wish the house and the senate and the administration, i think we need that bipartisanship to get a good jobs bill going. jenna: we had some republican senators on yesterday that were supportive of the president as well and now we're in this reality, when it comes to libya, when it comes to reality of limited time and resources looks like we have to come together on some of those other domestic issues as well. governor, always nice having you. thanks for coming on today. >> thank you, jenna.

nice to be with you. jon: deadly drug violence escalating in mexico right now. dozens of civilians murdered by a drug cartel in just one week. now a new investigation reveals the cartel may have had help from the authorities who are supposed to be protecting citizens. a live report coming up. plus we're getting new information the case of missing baby lisa irwin and a new theory about what might have happened to that little girl.

jenna: welcome back, everyone to this fox news alert. we'll take you across the bay from san francisco. what you're looking at is concord, california, this is the east bay looking at bay area. this is helicopter shot we don't have the control of. why we're looking at concord is because of this. apparently the school district there receive ad threat, a threat about someone coming to a high school in the area and opening fire.

apparently it came through a threatening fax earlier in the day yesterday claiming that again, someone would come into the high school, begin shooting 10:00 a.m. at that time. look at your screen, it is just after 8:15 a.m. in the morning out there in california. kids are going to school by the way. they had heightened security on scene because of that we'll watch this story as we watch that heightened security in concord, call important -- california, because of a gunman possibly approaching the school. we'll get you more information as we get it. jon: security problems across the border in mexico as well. deadly violence there is escalating. one of the country's most prosperous cities is becoming one of the bloodiest. we're talking about the city of monterey near the texas border. dozens of gun fights between police and drug cartels killed dozens of people in the last weeks. investigation into the worst slaughter of civilians by a local cartel that police and

politicians might have been involved in the blood shed. steve harrigan is across the border in that city of monterey, mexico. steve? >> reporter: murder of 52 civilians in a casino show how the mexican drug cartels are expanding beyond drugs into extortion. we met with one survivor of that blaze. 2 1/2 minutes was all it took to change mexico's war on drugs and the life of perez forever. >> translator: they said you're all dead. everyone started to run. we all began yelling. i went to look for my son but i couldn't find him. >> reporter: eight zeta drug cartel members doused the carpets with gasoline in august. now the investigation shows one of those pouring the gas was a policeman and that the mayor's brother, may have been involved. >> in every major city in mexico you have a kind of symbiotic relationship

between organized crime, often violent, the local police establishment, and the local political establishment. >> reporter: in one of mexico's most prosperous cities people are too scared to talk about the fire in front of their own face but not samarra perez. >> translator: i'm not afraid. i lost my fear when i lost my son in that casino. i want mexico to change. >> reporter: she holds onto the ashes of her son, who would have turned 19 today. >> reporter: of the 52 people who died in that fire, most were women. senior citizens, playing bingo on a thursday afternoon. john, back to you. jon: unbelieveable. steve harrigan, live from mnlt monterey. thanks, steve. jenna: new information from a case of a baby who vanished in missouri more than two weeks ago. kansas city police cleared 700 tips into the disappearance of lisa irwin. they're pursuing 65

out-of-state leads in their investigation. her parents maintain she was taken by a crib from a infruiter. a retired fbi agent is joining us from kansas city to talk a little more about this. jeff. let's see there is a lot going on behind the scenes we're obviously not privy too. in simplest terms there is battle between the lawyers for the parents of little lisa and the cops. lawyers are saying that police are using unreasonable tactics in this investigation. what would unreasonable tactics be? >> well i don't know what they define as unreasonable tactics. i can tell you the police department here in kansas city, i worked with a lot of those officers and detectives over the years and they will not do anything to hinder this case. you can ask the type of questions you think are pertinent and if you're getting, you're making progress in the interview, you know that's a good thing and i don't think the police are going to do anything that's going to maybe make some sort of admission for any interview, not just the

parents or anyone else, inadmissible in court and the attorneys describe some potential, if they weren't there, they would have been heavy-handed tactics. the police aren't going to use heavy-handed tactics. they want if there is confession not just from the parents or anyone they want to be able to use that. you can't coerce a confession from anyone. jenna: let me play devil's advocate for the parents. i spoke to their lawyer, joe tacopina earlier this week. we gaven hair swabs and pulled in for interviews all hours of day. i have to watch out for my clients right now the and they're exhausted. when he said something like that makes me wonder why can't, haven't the police found what they needed from these two people yet? >> well, you know, they have been cooperative in that regard, there's no doubt about it. the police have searched every inch of that house. if some evidence had come forward, had presented itself they would have had that already. crime scenes talk. this one is not talking. that leaves police not only

carry out and cover these other leads that have taken place in other parts of the country or come forward, they need to talk to the parents again in an unrestricted manner. jenna: what does that mean unrestricted by the way? when you can speak to someone in unrestricted manner? >> that means no questions are off limits. that the lawyers can't jump in say no, you can't answer that question. they haven't been able to do that since october 8th according to the police. and if the parents are going to be cooperative, i believe they need to be able to be interviewed in that manner by the police. and again they're not going to use heavy-handed tactics. these are normal interviews and the police are not going to do anything that whip jeopardize this case. jenna: jeff, always great to have your expertise here. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. jon: in libya, muammar qaddafi apparently went down fighting. what does it mean for whoever may be waiting in the wings as his successor. geraldo rivera, who spent time under fire in libya

joins us live with his insight next.

jenna: new information on crime stories we've been keeping an eye on for you here. grandmother after missing 5-year-old in arizona is marching at the state capitol in an attempt to draw national attention attention to this little girl's disappearance. her name is jesse shockly. she was reported missing from her home last week. we'll keep up to date on that missing child story. retailers are on high alert for potential flash robs like flashmobs. several retail chains are peteching themselves against teen and young adults who

use social media to plan these robberies. actress lindsay lohan arriving early to work today at the l.a. morgue. she was late on her first day of community service ordered by this judge earlier in the week but rest assured she is there now. jon: with news of the death of muammar qaddafi, questions remain today as to what comes next in libya. let's talk with someone who spent a fair amount of time in that country, geraldo. he just about lost his life in libya. good to have you here because of that episode. >> really. jon: you've had some tight scrapes in a lot of places but libya was about as tight it gets? >> it was a real near-death experience. my wife from a distance made me promise not to go back. jon: things may calm down a little bit i guess as a result of the death of qaddafi. what are your predictions? >> in terms of what happened to me i can tell you the people fighting in lib a i can't are an armed mob.

there in that is the relevance of it. no not that i had the scrape. they are so undisciplined. a million different agendas. they're armed with a lot of heavy weapons. they have shoulder-fired missiles now. you have all these various militias. how do you convert them into a national army? how do you tell people you're not for your tribe, you're not for your region, you're for your nation particularly after almost 4 1/2 decades of qaddafi where they have no national institutions. jon: this isn't george washington trying to secure a band of patriots to take on the british it. this is sort of, well a bunch of tribes, 13 or 14 of them with disparate goals here? >> not only that. they hate each other regionally have had all of their animosities. many of the fighters i saw, jon, even more troubling guys escaped or released from the various prisons there. not all of them were political prisoners. they were robbers, rapists and others. so i think hillary clinton's appearance there a couple of days ago, that's what we

need. we need a state department surge to get their shoulder to shoulder with these high-ranking officials in the new libyan government and tell them, we want to be your friends but we also want you to mind where your chemical warfare stuff is. we want to know who is pumping the oil. who is getting the money. we've got to really get some kind of semblance of order here to begin the process of nation-building. jon: as we saw what happened in iraq it was relatively easy to go in there and defeat that country militarily but what comes after what is important when it comes to the future. >> the fact, i just don't want to let that easyness of the military victory go unnoted. this i really do believe is the new paradigm, jon. rather than sending in the marines. rather than rolling in the heavy armor. rather than mobilizing the fleet in a nation that is exhausted by over 10 years of war, our nation, i think this precision attack and letting others take the lead

is the way to go. i think that, if you can call it an obama doctrine, then give credit where credit is due. he may have screwed up the economy. that you can argue but he certainly done a good job killing bad guys. jon: but at the same time, do we have the leverage to try to influence a government that, the formation of a government that will be friendly towards the united states? >> that's a great question. i really do believe as we let france and europe lead the way, they should lead the way in the rehabilitation of libya since oil is given to italy, 25% of the their exports go to italy. we get 3% of them. france is a big trading partner, the rest of europe. let them take the lead. it doesn't always have to be america's burden. in terms of rebuilding or building this nation, let others shoulder some of the effort and some of the time and the energy involved and not to mention taxpayer money. let someone else do it for a change. jon: another controversy in the news right now the baby lisa case. i know you've got some thoughts about that.

hold on. >> i'm very eager to tell you what i think about that. debbie is, well --. jon: stick around. you will hear what geraldo thinks next hour. jenna: that was good tease. you have us all on the edge of our seats. what will he say about debbie? he will tell us in about half an hour. republicans don't seem to settle on a clear frontrunner in the 2012 race. mitt romney is unable to pull ahead decisively in the recent polls. a political anist up next he knows what the former massachusetts governor needs to do to seal the deal. we'll find out next. plus winter, just around the corner. tough to say, right? last year was a big mess for a big part of the country. we'll tell you what is on the horizon, especially for areas of the country that need the snow and need the rain. that's next. ♪ .

jon: extreme weather time right now. i remember as a kid growing up in colorado we had to trick-or-treat in the snow some nights on halloween. jenna: "cry me a river". jon: it's true. jenna: you loved it. it was great. jon: it was cold. milky ways were frozen by the time you got hem home. winner is on winter is on its way continues the drought in the south. brutal cold snowy winter in

the midwest. if conditions are right we could see above average snow in the northeast. there is somebody to blame and we're not talking about meteorologist janice dean. we're talking about, la nina. >> la nina. i'm from canada where they make halloween costume as size bigger because they have to fit over snow suits. jon: i have to put the parka, right. >> right. don't blame me for this forecast, jon scott. we have la nina last year. this doesn't pre dike the snow or the amount of snow we could see in the northeast or mid-atlantic all the big cities. don't blame that on me. this is sort of a driver of climate if you will a quick lesson on la nina. periodic cooling of ocean water in the tropical pacific that affects our weather worldwide. it returned in august. it is expected to strengthen in the winter. what it does tend to bring us less than average precipitation across the south. we've seen the worst drought on record for texas. we're forecasting the precip

across the northern tier and across the great lakes and northeast. dryer than average much. state of texas is next dream or exceptional drought. that drought could continue throughout the winter and into next year unfortunately. temperatures we think cooler than average again across the west. then over the northern tier, the great lakes region and we're also expecting warmer than average again. not going to help that drought situation for the south unfortunately. now again in terms of snowstorms we typically can't predict that. maybe a week or two in advance but not long range, okay. so we're just going to have to wait and see what the jet stream is going to do this year. but, yeah, we're experiencing already below average temperatures across those regions i pointed out. across the great lakes even down south across the tennessee river valley and parts of the mid-atlantic region. 46 in new york, those are your lows tonight. freeze adviceries where we're expecting temperatures

below the freezing mark, again across portions of tennessee and kentucky and even down towards the southeast. so yes, we're going to start to see some of those winter scenes i think very shortly, jon scott and jenna, i don't think they ever treat trick-or-treated in the snow in san francisco. did they? jenna: okay. >> milky ways are frozen. jenna: point taken. >> good to see you guys? jon: janice dean. thank you take care. jenna: debating whether to get the winter coat. you have to make that decision. now i know you have to. it is time. >> don't blame me. jenna: jd, thank you. we'll move into the middle of the country actually and talk a little bit more about politics ticks. this is where it all happens. an important vote coming up in ohio that may serve, may serve as a preview of the president's chances in that very key swing state. on november 8th, ohio residents are going to vote on this amendment. it is anment to their state constitution that would exempt them from the federal

requirement to have health care insurance or, face a fine. you heard about this, right? doug mckelway is live in columbus with more. hi, doug. >> reporter: good morning to you, jenna. this state, ohio is one of four states attempting to erect barriers to the individual mandate of president's affordable care act. what is going on in ohio is little different it is entirely citizens driven. literally hundreds of thousands of citizens put their names on petitions. if supporters say if this thing passes unmistakeable message from the swing state to the president of the united states up for re-election next year and just as importantly to some to home state democratic senator sherrod brown who they say cast the deciding vote in the senate for the affordable care act. >> we're effectively issuing a referendum on them and their policies. and so while this doesn't directly affect of course their election, i think there's a strong, strong, statement that will be made by ohioans we don't like

this kind of infringement to our personal rights. >> reporter: democratic opponents say this ballot issue is entirely unnecessary because of course the supreme court will be ruling next september on the individual mandate. we expect that to happen anyway. but they also say this ballot issue is so sloppily written it would have unintend and consequence of outlawing many medical rules already on the books in ohio. >> that's why the most conservative newspaper in the state, the dispatch right here in this town in columbus, editorialized against issue 3 as has every other newspaper in the state that has taken a position. this is bad medicine. it is bad news for ohio. >> reporter: polls of the most recent which was done in july show support for this thing falls right along party lines. may hinge on independents in that poll in july. independents support it by number 49 to 44%. could be a nail-biter come november 8th here in ohio. general in -- jenna?

jenna: we've watch for that, doug, thank you very much. jon: right now the republican party is looking for a presidential nominee for 2012 of course. one man says the former massachusetts governor mitt romney is the front runner despite a lack of support from wide swaths of the party and really all he has to do is become the nominee is simply hold on. stuart rothenberg. he joins us now. a columnist for "roll call" and editor of the rothenburg political report. he has to hold on you say? not make any mistakes? is that what you mean? >> essentially has to follow the john mccain strategy, talk conservative, try to appeal to conservatives, make himself acceptable to conservatives who obviously constitute the overwhelming part of the republican party knowing however they're never going to be excited about him. they're still going to kick the tires of every other candidate out there and he has to hope that no other conservative, no activist

conservative, no conservative with deep roots in the party emerges as his alternative much as what happened to john mccain. conservatives didn't embrace john mccain. they just accepted him at the end of the day. jon: most observers say romney is much better candidate this time around than last time around. do you agree? >> he is better candidate. he is comfortable in the debates. he performs very well in the debates. he has his message down. look what he did to rick perry on immigration. he has done his job. much of the party, look at polls, he gets a quarter of the vote in almost every survey. much of the party simply doesn't believe he is a true-blue conservative. they think he is doing this to get nominated. if he gets elected he will act as establishment candidate. it makes him a pretty good general election candidate but causes him problems in the nominating contest. jon: in some of the polls herman cain is outranking

romney. >> jon, we've seen this before with michele bachmann. then it was rick perry. now it is herman cain. this is what we're seeing. conservatives looking for somebody else. at the moment cain is a charismatic figure. he is kind of the anti-obama, an african-american conservative business guy. so he's caught people's fancy but this is a guy who talks first and thinks later and you see he already backtracking on his tax policy. so, i think it is unlikely that he will remain at the top of the heap, although, who knows, conservatives are looking for an alternative to romney. jon: well at the end of the day if romney becomes the republican nominee, i mean conservatives aren't going to vote for president obama. i mean, it is one of those cases where they would hold their nose and vote for the guy, right? >> i think you're right. when i write this i get an e-mail from people here or there, saying you're wrong i will never vote for him. there are people who won't vote for him for various reasons. i think you're right. he is the most formidable, most electable republican

general election candidate because he has broader appeal to is a bush anites, moderate voters, people not idealogical voters. if he can get through these republican primary and nomination i think he will be very formidable against president obama. most insiders, i know many of your viewers would automatically dismiss insiders, but most insiders believe mitt romney is by far the strongest potential republican nominee against president obama. jon: stuart rothenberg with the rothenberg political report. interesting. jenna: i don't know if i our viewers dismiss insiders. i think they might appreciate insiders. we just don't know. all right, several earthquakes rocking southern california. details on that and what's so unusual about the day. the day that the ground decided to shake. we're going to talk more about that in just a moment. you've heard warnings about a possible link between using your cell phone and cancer.

you hear about that a lot, right? we have the results of one of the largest and longest-running studies ever. you will want to hear this, next.

jon: new info right now on stories we're watching across the u.s. and around the world all inside our control room. the san francisco bay area is recovering from not one but two earthquakes in one night. u.s. geological survey revising the magnitude of the second quake that hit east of berkeley, to 3.8. this happening 22 years, almost to the day after the deadly earthquake struck the bay area during the 1989 world series. a us airways flight from philadelphia to switzerland forced to land in boston when several crewmembers got sick. four the crew complained about an electrical smell in the back of the plane.

they were taken to a hospital as a precaution. passengers were transferred to another flight. russian soyuz rockets carelying first two satellites of. first maiden voyage of at russian rocket outside of the former soviet union. jenna: a brand new study out on the potential link between cell phones and cancer. a whole lot of questions about this, harris. do we have any answers on this today? >> reporter: well, i'll tell you what. this is the largest study we've seen yet. if there are answers maybe it will come from this. the latest study from the danish cancer society is causing some waves because it is first ever to cast doubt on possible link between cell phones and brain cancer. the study looked at more than 358,000 danish cell phone plan subscribers over 17 years. it is biggest one they have done and done in kind of a new way. instead of depending upon people who already have cancer to tell researchers whether they think there's a link, this new study looked

how phone subscribers and medical records of those people played into it. that way they could rely on not on people's memories but on harder data. researchers found subscribers of 13 years or longer faced the same cancer risk of though of nonsubscribers. the problem just because you have a phone subscription doesn't mean you're a heavy cell phone user. it is a key point and the lead author of the danish study, subject says, needs more research. 5 billion people use cell phones all over the world. anytime there is study like this on cell phones and brain cancer and any possible link it gets a lot of attention. back to you. jenna: sounds like interesting points but still work to be done as far as what we really know potentially about that link. harris, thank you very much. >> reporter: sure. jon: let's hope there is no link. dozens of machine guns and handguns stolen in a brazen robbery. the cache of weapons belongs to the l.a.p.d. now some serious questions. could the guns show up on the streets and how did they get out of there in the

first place?

jon: 30 submachine guns and handguns are missing. stolen from a building in los angeles that was to be used by the l.a.p.d.'s special weapons and tacktics unit. however the guns were modified so they could fire plastic bullets. the question a lot of people are asking is, can they be used on the streets and why were they being housed in a storage area in the first place? let's talk about it with amy driver. she is a firearms expert. former l.a.p.d. forensic scientist and also a criminalist. amy, the department is saying to the public, hey, you don't have to be worried. these machine guns aren't going to be firing real bullets. can we believe them? >> actually, yes you can,

jon, because these guns were modified. they can't fire standard ammunition. the barrels won't accept standard ammunition. the guns, the amount of money that it would cost to convert these guns back to being actual weapons is more than it would cost to go out and buy an actual gun. anyone who --. jon: these are machine guns, et cetera, that the s.w.a.t. team uses during training? is that why they are converted that way? >> that's correct. the, the guns that we're talking about, they're submachine guns actually, the h&k mp-5s. there were also colt 1911 handguns. just regular .45 caliber happened guns. jon: right. >> they don't accept standard ammunition. they would take a real expertise to convert back, not to mention the parts

that aren't available to the public. jon: i guess the question though too is about security. these things were inside a building, locked in a storage unit and somebody apparently had word that the s.w.a.t. team was going to be in there. they went in with bolt cutter and took all of these weapons. sounds like you have an intelligence problem maybe within the swat unit? >> that's, that's questionable. that may or may not be the case. jon: you think this was a crime of opportunity? >> that's something that they obviously need to look into. this was evidently not standard operating procedure to have these weapons stored there. they were only available for a very short period of time, which is something that they do, need to be focused on in the investigation. the fact that they were only available for a very short period of time and that they were, they were secured under several layers of heavy physical security. jon: so you're telling the folks in l.a. they don't

really need to be too concerned about these missing weapons? >> the fact that the weapons are not able to fire standard ammunition, anybody who, if the people who took these guns, if they try to sell them, anyone who ends up buying these weapons is going to be pretty angry when they realize that they can't actually fire standard ammunition through them. they're not going to be able to actually use them as regular guns. jon: it will be interesting to see if they get them back. amy driver, thank you. >> sure. jenna: herman cain is keeping up the momentum so far after taking first place in a brand new presidential poll. this as he prepares for his first major speech digging deeper into the controversial 9-9-9 tax plan. missouri authorities following up on dozens of out-of-state leads in the disappearance of baby lisa. any credible clues so far? and where do the parents stand today?

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jenna: hi, everybody, we're glad you're with us on this friday, i'm jenna lee. jon: and it is friday. i'm jon scott. libya after gadhafi. burial for the deposed dictator on hold now. a senior libyan official says gadhafi will not be buried until the international criminal court gets a chance to examine the circumstances surrounding his death. jenna: still a lot of questions about that. u.n. investigators want the know if gadhafi was killed in combat or executed after his capture. why does that matter? let's talk about that with jennifer griffin who's live from the pentagon. jennifer, why does that matter, and where is gadhafi's body right now to do that investigation? >> reporter: well, he was supposed to be bury inside an unmarked grave within 24 hours, but they appear to be breaking muslim tradition, and his body

is still in misrata, and people are lining up to see the slain body lying inside a house on the outskirts of misrata. in some cases people are getting their picture taken with his corpse. they're lining up not to pay respects. at first they weren't sure where to put him. we have video, and be i must warn viewers it is graphic in nature. it's of his body laid out in a large commercial freezer earlier today used by local restaurants, and u.n. investigators want to see the body to try and figure out how it was killed, but it's clearly visible that there was a small bullet wound behind his left ear making it look less likely he died in crossfire. jenna: any timeline, jennifer, about when those investigators can get in and do that? >> reporter: we don't have any details about that as of yet, so i think they're sporting it -- sorting it out. but with all the time that his body is out there, i think they're going to start getting nest -- nervous that this could

lead to mob chaos. jenna: absolutely. just taking a completely different look at this story, there's been a lot made of the aid that has gone into helping libya with nato, and we've heard some senators come out and talk about whether or not our country's going to get reimbursed for the cost of what we've done. do we know anything more about that today? >> reporter: well, it's cost the u.s. taxpayer as of september 30th $1.1 billion, and if you listen to republican senators such as lindsey graham, you would think the u.s. taxpayer is going to get paid back. take a listen. >> they're going to pay us back. they have $34 billion of frozen assets under our control. they'll gladly pay us back. >> reporter: but that's not the impression we had yesterday in speaking with the libyan ambassador to washington. take a listen to that. >> everything is negotiable. i believe that when the libyans see that the americans and the europeans, they came to help them to rescue them there the

hands of this brutal regime just for the sake of this humanity, of course we'll have a different meaning if the americans and the europeans, they've been paid for what they spent. >> reporter: so it doesn't sound like the u.s. taxpayer is going to get paid back anytime soon, jenna. jenna: some questions on how to do that. is it an iou? do you get interest? we'll wait and see. jennifer, thank you very much. jon: well, gadhafi's fall is invigorating protesters in other middle east hot so thes. in syria security forces fire on protesters who were pouring into the streets after friday prayers. those demonstrators shouting that president bashar assad's regime will be the next to go. and in yemen, the killing of the libyan dictator resonating among the thousands of yemenis taking to the streets of their capital, they're demanding their president's 33-year reign in

that country. jenna: back in this country, though, a growing backlash against the occupy wall street protesters, folks who live in new york's financial be district are lashing out, venting their anger at a community board meeting. their complaints ranging there everything, really, from garbage that's been piling up to noise at all hours of the night. laura ingle has more on this side of the story. >> reporter: hi, jenna. numerous meetings between board members and protesters from the beginning, but last night's gathering was the first time local residents were allowed to officially chime in. loud drums, ear-piercing chants and people using the streets as bathrooms, just a few of the complaints coming from some who live around lower manhattan's due catty park. protesters say they have instituted what they call a good neighbor policy, putting a time limit on drumming and zero tolerance rule for abuse of

property. several fed-up residents aired their grievances saying they've been suffering quality of life issues ever since protesters descended upon their neighborhood. >> we can't take our kids to the public spaces that we like to take them to, they're all shut down. that's the police, i understand, but it's because you're here. until you figure out a way to get organized, we're not going to be happy that you're here. >> reporter: but there were also supporters pointing out that some protesters are doing their part by scrubbing the sidewalks and gathering garbage. a negotiator for occupy wall street said the group is making positive changes which some neighbors appreciate. >> and we support the demonstrators, and we as a neighborhood owe a great responsibility to be flexible and work this out. >> reporter: the community board passed a nonbinding resolution last night saying they supported the right to protest in the park, but theyment with more limits on the

noise and more bathroom facilities. again, it's not binding. jenna: if you lived right next door, you could probably understand how they feel about that. laura, thank you. >> reporter: thanks. jon: there's a new report saying the obama administration approved a federal government loan for an electric car company. the cost reportedly more than half a billion american tax dollars. the thing is, the first line of cars will not be built on u.s. soil. jim angle explains all of that from washington. jim? >> reporter: hello, jon. well, another green jobs training program is raising questions, this one to build electric cars. an american company that's trying to manufacture a battery-operated car with $529 million in federal loan guarantees had planned to use the shuttered gm plant in delaware to build its cars, but that couldn't be done on the company's timetable, so it outsourced the manufacturing to a company in finland, not the, drawing some fire from lawmakers. >> this stimulus that was supposed to help american jobs,

stimulate our economy. if purpose of the bill was to build electric cars somewhere in the world, i suppose that's what was done. but let's be transparent about this. clearly, that's not what happened, and the goal became to make these and make them anywhere, and that's a huge violation of what was told to the american people. >> they have private monies from the likes of al gore and other venture capital firms, but it's more than a year behind in production which includes one car that costs almost $100,000. only two have been delivered to the u.s., one to leonardo dicaprio. it eventually hopes to produce cars that will cost only $40,000 after tax credits, but finland was not what the administration had in mind. >> the president and i have never doubted that we could write a new chapter in the automotive history of this country because we knew for real

we not only had the best workers, we had the best innovators, the best designers. and that's what this is about today. >> reporter: now, the department of energy says none of its loan money, only a portion of which has been drawn down, was spent in finland, but an audit by the gao said the energy department is not monitoring the loans close hi enough to know what the company is doing. the gao said simply, quote, that u.s. taxpayers do not know whether they are getting what they paid for. jon? jon: i'm sure finland is very grateful though, right, jim? laugh a laugh. >> reporter: absolutely. maybe they'll buy some of these cars. jenna: a new chapter in the history this week, celebrations continue in libya following the death of moammar gadhafi. still questions remain about what's ahead and what's next for the entire region. jon: and greek protesters honoring a fallen demonstrator who did not leave a rally alive.

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jenna: the country of libya experiencing its first full day without gadhafi. his fall, his death and the grisly images we've actually seen of his final moments, a vivid reminder to what can happen to dictators who brutalize their own people. our next guest says there is not one arab leader in the region who's sleeping well now. he's the author of "rock the casbah," and her name is robin wright, and she's joining us now. robin, there seems to be a recognition as well that gadhafi was one of a kind. a dictator, but eccentric and odd and just weird at times. why does his death send a message to the entire region? >> well, first of all, you had the ouster of the president of tunisia who fled into exile. then you had hosni mubarak who's

now being try inside cairo, and the third example is moammar gadhafi who was kill inside his final days. and this sends a message to the region that every leader will be held to account, and that those who don't respond will face some form of justice or retaliation be it having to flee their country, facing trial or being killed in a moment of trying to put down rebellion. jenna: so let's talk about syria because that's the next focus that everyone's looking at now. you say that could be the fate of, well, countries that have dictators like president assad. is there a timeline to that? for example, do you expect to see something like that in six to twelve months? or could it be six to twelve years? >> i doubt years. president assad cannot survive politically the current turmoil. he's not only facing the resistance of his own people, but the king of saudi arabia said he's no longer legitimate leader. turkey is about to impose sanctions, the european union is cutting off its oil exports, and the united states and united nations have both condemned him.

so it is a matter of time. and in this case libya's more likely to be an example in terms of the time frame than either egypt where mubarak was ousted in 18 days or tunisia where president menally was ousted in to days. jenna: is it the international community, is it the international community's involvement, or is it the people within the country that are rebelling? >> the most striking thing across the region whether governments are monarchies or military dictatorships is that the people are taking to the streets in enormous numbers and with tremendous resilience. you saw in syria today the outpouring of people yet again. we're talking eight months after the uprising began. and the kind of resistance in the face of other 3,000 people killed and the use of unbelievable force whether it's gunboats or artillery against his own people. president assad has proven that he's willing to do anything to survive, and it's very unlikely that he will be unable to pull

through this. jenna: it's pretty extraordinary to watch some of the amateur video we have coming in from syria because, obviously, these people know the fate they're going to face if they're protesting in the streets, it's very obvious. so there's, obviously, courage there. just switching topics just slightly, there seems to be some concern within the international community about what's next for these countries. the unknown of what the next leader is going to be like, the next dictator. do you see strong undercurrents of muslim extremists in these areas? is that something we should be concerned about whether it's libya, syria or otherwise? >> there is no question that the islamic parties will play an important role in the next phase in egypt and tiew these ya and possibly in libya as well. but we have to differentiate muslim parties from muslim extremists. al-qaeda of, you know, is active in north africa, but it is not a dominant political force. and i think this is a moment where we have to kind of stand back and differentiate among them. but the elections due this weekend in tunisia are, clearly,

going to be important or lead to an important role for the oneida party, the awakening as it's called in tunisia. the muslim brotherhood is probably going to do fairly well but not win outright in egypt elections begin in november, and libya still has to come to grips with an election schedule there. the bigger danger in some ways is the diversity in these societies whether it's sectarian differences or tribal and clan differences. libya has 140 different tribes or clans, 30 of which are important be. jenna: wow. >> and this is a moment that you have to bring together diverse elements of society and, most importantly, the militias who -- and there are many of them -- that played a role in ousting moammar gadhafi from power -- jenna: just real quick here. we're short on time, robin. i'm just thinking as you're mentioning elections and the tribes and bringing people together, i'm thinking about the country and the region that we've invested so much in, and

that's iraq where look at what we've done over the last ten years whatever your point of view is on that. can we look at iraq as a model? what do we make of our work there when we also look at what we're doing ahead in these other countries? >> to most of the other arab countries, iraq is not a model. this is a country where many believe that democracy was imposed and that an outside force defined what came next. i think most of these countries are going to be looking at defining their own tiewgs in a slightly different way. but with the same goal, and that is political pluralism. jenna: it's a fascinating time to watch this happen. robin, thank you so much, and we'll pay close attention to your book as well, "rock the casbah." sounds timely. thank you very much. >> thank you. jon: in greece, demonstrators against the government's austerity measures show their fury after the death of a fellow protester. >> yep. jon: 53-year-old construction

worker died of a heart attack after attending a rally yesterday. the gathering turned ugly as union protesters clashed with anarchists armed with fire bombs and rocks. it left roughly 200 people injured. the lawmakers approved a round of deep cutbacks to make sure the country can secure international loans. jenna: bombshell revelations about steve jobs. a brand new book says he could have won the battle against cancer and saved his own life. some shocking details coming up, again, out of this new book today. plus, dramatic testimony at the michael jackson trial. a medical expert for the prosecution blasting the doctor charged in the pop star's death. >> michael jackson did not have good veins. in fact, his veins were so poor that dr. murray had to start this iv in a vein that was below his left knee.

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jenna: a fashion anytiming new report just out about a statement we expect from president obama about our security relationship with rack. with iraq. here's what we are hearing according to several different media reports, that the president will come out this just a few moments and announce a complete drawdown of troops out of iraq. now, a little background on this. over the weekend we heard about some disagreement between our country and the iraqis, and what it seemed to be about is the iraqis saying they were not going to give immunity to any of our soldiers that were left after the end of this year. now, remember, those reports of how many would be left vaird from thousands to tens of

thousands. but if iraq was not going the give you our troops immunity ouf our court systems, then our troops could be very vulnerable, obviously, if they stayed in this country. so, again, here's the news reports, and we don't have confirmation, though we're working on this for you right now, that the president will announce today that the u.s. will completely withdraw it troops there iraq by the end of this year. we'll have that statement live when it happens. jon: that will be a monumental development. right now there's a new report out saying steve jobs could be alive today if he had only listened to his doctors. that according to a biographer of the late co-founder of the apple computer company. harris has details for us. harris? >> reporter: yeah. we're learning more about this today. we knew steve jobs had a rare form of pancreatic cancer, but now it seems maybe he department do all that was necessary to survive it. of course, it would completely take a crystal ball to know it all, but a man who was following him closely right up until the

time jobs died is telling details about ab important surgery that steve jobs needed and why he didn't get it. watch. >> then they do a boips -- boips, and they say, this is very good. steve jobs doesn't get operated on right away. he tries to treat it with diet. he goes to a spiritualist. he goes through various ways of doing it macrobuy yachtically, and he doesn't get an operation. >> reporter: that was biographer walter isaacson. he has a new book entitled similarly, "steve jobs." he was in a "60 minutes" interview there saying jobs' wife and family needed with him to get the operation and he finally did nine months later. and according to the biographer by then the cancer had spread. certainly, we'll learn minute about this -- more about this by cracking open his book, but

really a revelation because it seemed from all that we three that jobs had really battled this thing, perhaps maybe in his own way. back to you guys. jon: harris, thank you. jenna: fast-moving developments in the manslaughter trial for konrad murray, michael jackson's doctor. a key medical expert had testified there was no way michael jackson could have injected himself with this powerful drug. adam houseley's live outside the courthouse in los angeles closely following this case. adam, what do we know today? >> reporter: that expert you talked about really has become the prosecution's star witness. he began his testimony last thursday but because of court days and other -- delays and other issues, questioning didn't end until late yesterday afternoon, and his answers were absolutely compelling for the week he was on the stand. again, part of that time, of course, was due to court being dark. but he talked about everything from 17 different times that dr. murray could have saved michael jackson's life to the

point that murray department have the proper equipment in the room, in his opinion. he even mentioned that the idea that michael jackson would have administered pro follow, for example, to himself is ludicrous. take a listen. >> this is a notion of somebody who's putting himself unconscious, a general anesthetic dose. then waking up and drawing a drug which takes time and reingenting it, i mean, people just don't wake up from anesthesia like that. people just don't wake up, you know, hell bent the grab the next dose in a syringe, draw it up and shove it in their iv again. >> reporter: again, that was dr. steven shafer, considered to be the star witness of the prosecution. he's also considered to be the expert when it comes to propofol and one of the best anesthesiologists in the world. the defense will cross-examine him today, court had a scheduling issue this morning, so that'll begin about midday

here locally. and the defense could start their case by the end of the day today, and they could wrap their case by the middle to end of next week. as we know, jenna, in this trial nothing has gone as planned, but it should be interesting to see how the defense goes after this expert because by all accounts dr. shafer was extremely compelling, and his yes den rnls with -- credentials are impeccable. jenna: you will not miss a beat in the trial of dr. murray. if you want to go to foxnews.com, the trial there is streaming live, you can watch all the details as they happen. in the meantime, jon, we have some big news here. jon: yeah. we are awaiting a statement from president obama. he's going to be making it at at the white house shortly. we understand it is going to involve our relationship, our security relationship with iraq. and it comes on the heels of a conference call the president had with iraqi leader nouri al-maliki. the reporting from news corp.

and from other news agencies is the president is going to announce that all u.s. forces will be withdrawn from iraq by the end of the year. there is that battle that's been going on, that argument going on that jenna just told you about as to whether or not our soldiers would enjoy immunity from prosecution after the end of the year. apparently, the iraqis could not agree to that, and that thinking is leading the president to say it's time to pull all american forces out of that country. you can see the podium is ready at the white house. when the president steps up to it, we'll take that statement live. every time a local business opens its doors or creates another laptop bag or hires another employee, it's notust good for business. it's good for the entire community. at bank of america, we know the impact that local businesses have on communities. that's why we extended $7.8 billion

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so it's time to look, compare... and choose the right plan for you. learn more at 1-800-medicare or medicare.gov. jon: we are awaiting a news conference from michelle obama that is -- from president obama that is expected to begin shortly. you can see the podium is ready and the photographers are taking their places. the u.s. commander in chief is expected to make a major announcement regarding iraq. let's talk about, pardon me, the possibilities here with christian whiten, a former state department senior adviser, also a principal at d.c. international advisory. the word leaking out of the white house, and word pretty much always leaks out of the white house on these big announcements, christians, is that the president is going to say we will withdraw all of our forces there iraq by the end of the year. jenna and i were talking about it during the break. she suggests that maybe that

phone call, that conference call that the president had with nouri al-maliki didn't go so well. >> well, jon, this is something that's been a long time in the making. you know, we had an agreement that by the end of this year all combat forces would be withdrawn. it was expected at some point we'd reach an agreement with the iraqis to at least keep some force, at least described perhaps as trainers, auxiliary, something to that effect beyond this deadline. but throughout this year it's been increasingly clear that's not going to happen. whenever we have forces permanently or quasi-permanently stationed abroad as we do in the places like japan, korea, germany, we have a status of forces agreement that includes immunity for u.s. troops. sometimes we'll waive that. for instance, our troops in korea there's a traffic accident, and we think our guys are culpable, often they can be prosecuted locally with our approval. the iraqis have not been willing to discuss that seriously, and that's one reason that, you know, the troops will be pulled out by the end -- there are also

political reasons that have been a long time in coming here. jon: all right. well, the president was down to, what, 5,000 -- i mean, the number was roughly 5,000 trainers were going to be remaining in the iraq. by the end of the year. and, apparently, all of those are going to be pulled out. the question is, does that leave any kind of a vacuum for, say, iran to try to meddle more than it already has, more than it already is in iraq? >> right. it leaves a huge vacuum, and, actually, iran is one of the political issues i was alluding to. the bloc within iraqi politics that has objected to any negotiations over a longer u.s. or nato process has been leddy sadder -- led by sadr -- jon: christian, let me interrupt you for just a minute. stick with us for just a moment because jennifer griffin has some new details, breaking news from the pentagon.

>> reporter: we have some details. the president, this is according to a senior u.s. official, the president spoke with prime minister nourial al-maliki at 11:30 eastern time. it was decided that he would address the nation after that discussion and to announce, according to what we're being told, that all u.s. troops will be leaving iraq by december 31st as part of that status of forces agreement that was signed a few years ago. the president will be discussing the long-term strategic relationship, we're told, between iraq and the united states. what we know from previous reporting earlier this week is that if all u.s. troops are leaving on december 31st, then the state department's office of security coordination will keep 160, just 160 troops to oversee the training mission. that is a very small number of trainers. it's not the 3-5,000 trainers that had been discussed and batted around in recent weeks. it's clear that those discussions with the maliki

government hit an impasse. the issue of immunity was key, we're told, in terms of why the president and the pentagon cannot agree to keep those several thousand troops there without diplomatic immunity for those troops. we also have learned that there will be 16,000 people, civilians and security contractors, attached to the u.s. embassy after december 31st. that's the planning that is taking place. but the president will announce in just a few minutes when he speaks from the podium at the white house that all u.s. troops will be leaving, um, iraq at the end of this year. jon? jon: the pentagon is a big place, jennifer, and it's got a lot of corridors, but i wonder if you can sort of assess for us the mood in that building where you are right now as a result of or because of this announcement. >> reporter: well, i think among those who have served in iraq and lost friends in the iraq and spent a lot of time trying to get iraq right, a great deal of frustration.

we've seen that in the last few, few weeks as these discussions lingered and sort of dragged on, and it looked increasingly as though all u.s. troops would be leaving by the end of the year. it looked like those talks were going nowhere for some weeks now. i think there's a great deal of sort of a shaking of heads that this didn't have to happen, the negotiations had been handled better with the iraqi government, we would have a presence that would stay on and that would ensure we don't leave a vacuum there. that's what i've been hearing, certainly, from those who have served in the iraq. but i think there's been an air of resignation from the pentagon as a whole from officials. we noticed a very big change in tone from defense officials like leon pa theta and -- panetta, they were giving a sense of urgency that a decision had to be made over the summer quickly in order for u.s. troops to stay.

in recent weeks we've not sensed that sense of urgency. there was really an air of resignation that this was what was going to happen. jenna: jennifer, will we declare victory? if this is the case, will we declare victory this iraq? >> reporter: well, i don't think anybody declares victory anymore in the middle east. i don't think this administration will use such words, but i think, um, that most people are holding their breath to see what happens the day after those u.s. troops leave. we've already been -- we've reported on the involvement of iranian-backed shia militias that have been responsible for many of the rockets that are destabilizing iraq right now. and there's a great deal of concern about what's next in iraq. it's clear that the prime minister has been aligning himself with tehran in recent months. in fact, he aligned with them to provide some support to bashar assad, the syrian president, against u.s. wishes. so the u.s. is seeming to have less and less influence over the

milky government. -- maliki government. jenna: interesting. jennifer, i know you're going to stand by with us as we try the work through some of this news that we're getting in. jon: and we're going to continue our conversation with christian whiten, formerly with the u.s. state department, after this break. but it will be interesting to see how the president couches this when he stands up in front of the microphones in the west wing press room there. will he acknowledge the disappointment? because, apparently, the u.s. military and even the administration wanted those troops to remain. the iraqis said not thls you meet these terms, and the u.s. was not willing to meet those terms. so it'll be interesting to see what the president says and how he couches this withdrawal, this complete withdrawal of american forces, apparently, to be announced any moment now from the white house. we'll be back in a moment with more. [ male announcer ] drinking a smoothie with no vegetable nutrition? ♪ [ gong ] strawberry banana! [ male announcer ] for a smoothie with real fruit

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jenna: breaking news from the white house about our future in iraq. we expect the hear from the president.

our chief white house correspondent ed henry is standing by live at the white house with the very latest. ed? >> reporter: good afternoon, jenna, that's right. we expect the president to be out here in the next few moments. bottom line, he is going to announce a complete drawdown of u.s. forces in iraq by the end of 2011. from a white house official we're hearing specifically a quote that says this will allow us to say definitively that the iraq war is over and that the partnership between the u.s. and iraq will be a normal one between two sovereign nations, noting also at about 11:30 this morning eastern time the president spoke to prime minister maliki of iraq. the white house is characterizing it that both the president and the prime minister felt this was the best way forward. this should shot be a shock given the fact that the president ran as a candidate in 2008 who was against the war in iraq, promised if he was elected he would withdraw all u.s. forces. there's also been a status of forces agreement that was actually signed by the previous president, president bush, to move us towards this point, and you'll remember it was august of

2010 that the president gave, this president gave an address from the oval office saying that combat operations were over and that we would be moving to this very point. the only real sticking point has been would there be some sort of a small force, would it be 3,000, 5,000, 10,000, some small u.s. force to continue training the iraqis and make sure that this is an orderly transition, and it doesn't just all unravel. we had heard monday of this week on fox senator john mccain, the president's rival, of course, in the 2008, in anticipation of this announcement senator mccain was charging that it would be a victory for the iranians if u.s. decided to leave absolutely no u.s. forces behind. so you can imagine there's going to be criticism there the right over this decision, but this is something the president has been telegraphing for a long time, jenna. jenna: right or left, this is big news today. ed, we're going the come back to you as soon as news warrants. back to the white house, obviously, where we're awaiting the president any moment now,

jon, but still a lot more to discuss on this topic. jon: yeah. we're going to bring back christian whiten, principle adviser at d.c. international advisory. so, christian, what's going on in that part of the world right thousand? we sort of interrupted your answer about iran, but are the iranians rubbing their hands together with glee right now? >> they have to be pretty satisfied that the u.s. is going to be out of there. we'll haveless of a foot print on the ground in the gulf since before the first gulf war and be, actually, our ability to project forces is diminished still but our much smaller u.s. navy, so there's going to be a lot less u.s. presence than there was at any time. and and this is probably a long time in the coming. this may have been decided not today on the phone with pm maliki, but going back to january 20th, '0 t when president obama came into office. iraq has always been the bad war, it's one they've wanted to wash their hands of, and this finally gets us out. you have to wonder if stronger

diplomacy on the part of president obama, secretary clinton, secretary panetta could have changed this situation and if they really wanted to get out and put a capstone on this operation instead. jon: all right, christian, stick with us for just a minute. jenna: taking a look at how many troops we have in iraq right now. at the most, well, the most recent information we have about our troops in iraq is right now 40,000 to 45,000 troops still there. that's a lot. geraldo rivera is standing by. you've spent a lot of time in iraq, obviously, doing a variety -- >> reporter: more time than i've wanted to, jenna. jenna: well, it's been ten years. let's talk about the security for these troops now. we have 45,000 troops that we have to get out of that country in the next couple months, and everybody knows they're coming out. >> i think we can protect ourselves militarily, but i think security of our troops is the reason we're pulling out, aside from the fact that president obama has always made that the bad war versus

afghanistan, the good war. but the real rubbing point, the contention has been that the status of forces agreement could not be ratified to the extent that it gave immunity to our troops this iraq. in other words, if they committed some collateral damage to a civilian, a civilian hurt in some military raid, they could have been sued or arrested by iraqi civilian authorities, and maliki's government wasn't strong enough to jam through an agreement that the iraqis would give or grant immunity to u.s. forces. and i think that was really the sticking point in the terms of the small training units that were going to be left behind. the biggest danger now is that without any u.s. troops in country, jenna, that iran might send its regular forces across the worder. you know, they fought a bitter eight-year war, the iranians and the iraqis. iran is celebrating that it's a shiite government, no longer a sunni government in iraq. iran, of course, a shiite

country, a radically-active shiite country. can so i think this is, bottom line, a victory for rapp. however, i also believe president obama as he is about to speak will couch this also like the death of moammar gadhafi, as a victory, you know? and maybe he's right -- jenna: and, geraldo, here's the president. let's take a listen. thank you. >> candidate for president, i pledged to bring the war in iraq to a responsible end. for the sake of our national security and to strengthen american leadership around the world. after taking office, i announced a new strategy that would end our combat mission in iraq and remove all of our troops by the end of 2011. as commander in chief, insuring the success of this strategy has been one of my highest national security priorities. last year i announced the end to our combat mission in iraq, and to date we've removed more than

100,000 troops. iraqis have taken full responsibility for their country's security. a few hours ago i spoke with iraqi prime minister maliki. i reaffirmed that the united states keeps its commitments. he spoke of the determination of the iraqi people to forge their own future. we are in full agreement about how to move forward. so today i can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in iraq will come home by the end of the year. after nearly nine years, america's war in iraq will be over. over the next two months, our troops in iraq, tens of thousands of them, will pack up their gear and board convoys for the journey home. the last american soldier will cross the border out of iraq with their head held high, proud

of their success and knowing that the american people stand united in our support for our troops. that is how america's military efforts in iraq will end. but even as we mark this important be milestone, we're also moving into a new phase in the relationship between the united states and iraq. as of january 1st and in keeping with our strategic framework agreement with iraq, it had been a normal relationship between sovereign nations, an equal partnership based on mutual interests and mutual respect. in today's conversation prime minister maliki and i agreed that a heating of the higher coordinating committee of the strategic framework agreement will convene in the coming weeks, and i invited the prime minister to come to the white house in december as we plan for all the important work that we have to do together. this will be a strong and enduring partnership with our diplomats and civilian advisers in the lead. we'll help iraqis strengthen

institutions that are just, representative and accountable. we'll build new ties of trade and commerce, culture and education that unleash the potential of the iraqi people. we'll partner with an iraq that contributes to regional security and peace just as we insist that other nations respect iraq's sovereignty. as i told prime minister maliki, we will continue discussions on how we might help iraq train and equip its forces. again, just as we offered training and assistance to countries around the world. after all, there will be some difficult days ahead for iraq. and the united states will continue to have an interest in an iraq that is stable, secure and be self-reliant. just as iraqis have persevered through war, i'm confident that they can build a future worthy of their history as a cradle of civilization. here at home the coming month will be another season of

homecomings. across america our servicemen and women will be reunited with their families. today i can say that our troops in iraq will definitely be home for the holidays. this december will be a time to reflect on all that we have been through in this war. i'll join the american people in paying tribute to the more than one million americans who have served in iraq. we'll honor our many wounded warriors and the nearly 4500 american patriots and their iraqi and coalition partners who gave their lives to this effort. and finally, i would note that the end of war in iraq reflects a larger transition. the tide of war is receding. the drawdown in iraq allowed us to refocus our fight against al-qaeda and achieve major victories against its leadership including osama bin laden. now, each as we remove our last troops from iraq, we're

beginning to bring our troops home from afghanistan where we've begun a transition to afghan security and leadership. when i took office roughly 180,000 troops were deployed in both these wars, and by the end of this year year that number will be cut in half. and make no mistake, it will continue to go down. meanwhile, yesterday marked the definitive end of the gadhafi regime in libya. and there, too, our mill care played a critical -- military played a critical role in shaping a situation on the ground in which the libyan people can build their own future. today nato is working to bring this successful mission to a close. so to sum up, the united states is moving forward from a position of strength. the long war in iraq will come to an end by the end of this year. the transition in afghanistan is moving forward, and our troops are finally coming hope.

home. as they do, fewer deployments and more time training will help keep our military the very best in the world. and as we welcome home our newest veterans, we'll never stop working to give them and their families the care, the benefits and the opportunities that they have earned. this includes enlisting our veterans in the greatest challenge that we now face as a nation; creating opportunity and jobs in this country. because after a decade of war, the nation that we need to build and the nation that we will build is our own. an america that sees its economic strength restored just as we've restored our leadership around the globe. thank you very much. >> what about iran, sir? thok knox. [inaudible conversations] jon: well, that is kind of interesting. the president went to the brady press briefing room there in the west wing of the white house and made that statement to the press but did not take any questions from the press. it raises the question as to why

he didn't do it in the east room or someplace elsewhere he wouldn't necessarily -- i mean, he could have made the statement anywhere and not answered questions from other parts of the white house. but at any rate, that's what he has chosen not to do. apparently, all american forces are going to be out of iraq by the end of the year. our chief white house correspondent ed henry is there. ed, the president makes it sound like this was, i don't know, i guess that this has the full approval of his administration. does it? [inaudible conversations] jon: we have a little problem hearing ed. apparently, the microphone is not totally connected there. we're going to go to jennifer griffin at the pentagon with her thoughts having heard the president' remarks there. jennifer? >> reporter: well, jon, what's interesting and what was not mentioned, um, what has not been

mentioned so far is what did the u.s. generals who are serving in iraq recommend earlier this year in terms of how many forces they thought should be, should stay behind, would be needed to stay behind in order to bring stability and also to train iraqi forces. and general lloyd austin who is currently the commanding general there had requested upwards of 15,000, as high as 25,000 troops to remain behind. i think they had settled on 15,000 over the summer. going into the negotiations, don't forget the negotiations with the maliki government did not begin in earnest until the end of august, and many people that we've spoken to, members of the senate armed services committee and others who have served in iraq, suggest that there was a delay of more than a year, that those negotiations should have really started the previous year. they got started late, and in the end, um, maliki got to, got to have the -- got to veto u.s. troops staying by putting out

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