remember the spin stops right here, we are looking out for you. >> good morning, everyone, on saturday, october 22nd. president obama declaring all american forces will be out of iraq by the end of the year. but is this a sign of success or a breakdown in negotiations with the iraqi government? >> the president's approval rating sinking to a new low. why the latest poll numbers could really spell doom for his re-election chance. >> plus, the government spending big bucks on the production of a $96,000 electric car. if that isn't new, it is built in finland. what about the jobs here at home? stimulus money. "fox & friends" starts right

now. >> it's "fox & friends" right now. >> what are you laughing at? >> clayton studies notes and then if he drops it all all and they sprayed all over the place. >>dave: that is what happens when you have a 6:00 a.m. show. >>clayton: it turned into winter overnight, from fall into freezing, everyone on twitter is saying they needed a snuggy last night. >>dave: the reporter who confronted the vice president coming up over the rape comment. >>alisyn: and the end of u.s. presence in iraq. this is controversial. because we foe president obama wanted to pull u.s. troops out of iraq and he campaigned out of that, there were negotiations

even as recently as august, that suggested that the president and the iraqis made an agreement to leave some behind for security purposes so iran would not move in and fighting would not break out among the separate groups. >>clayton: it started under president bush who in 2008 laid the groundwork for the withdrawal in 2011 but the bush administration and the obama administration thought it would come to an agreement, the main sticking point? that is the immunity clause, that the u.s. troops could be there and having in to do with iraqi law whatever. they could walk the streets, hold guns, whatever needed and be immunized from iraqi law. the iraqis said, no, that will not fly. >>dave: our troops have that immunity elsewhere where they serve but they would not grant them that same immunity if they stayed behind. here is what bolton had to say about our troops coming home end the year. >>guest: if you say, what are

the options in the last three months of negotiation when the leverage is against you and the deadline is looming, when this question of immunity for me is a dealbreaker, then it is very hard to find a way out of it. that is why i believe the president always wanted to get enout by the end of the year and he allowed the negotiations to collapse so the mistakes have been made over a protracted period. >>alisyn: that is different than how "new york times" is depicting, not that the president allowed them to collapse, but they tried, in earnest, and the iraqis dug in and maliki, said, no we will not give you immunity. he wanted to leave 5,000 troops but the iraqis said, no, that was nonnegotiable, so, the president tried to spin it like a victory, yeah, we are leaving iraq, but, behind the scenes --. >>clayton: the issue is loud from the republican side and in

their disagreements and rubio, year, saying he is weary of the president's decision. >> i respect what the president is trying to do and we would like an end to the engagement but do it in a smart way. i hope we continue to work hard to figure out a way and a role for us in terms of providing security because if this thing expands we will less have soldiers in iraq than in honduras. >>dave: the republican candidate, michele bachmann, romney, miles per hour, all saying this risks gains in iraq and only time will tell if this is the right decision, a year from now when the election is up we will find out. good or bad. >>clayton: what is rubio arguing, and what are you saying about security issues? specifically, they don't have air power control. they do not know how to fly the aircrafts. that is with we would do. there is nuanced things we would do they are not up to speed on.

>>alisyn: a poll shows that the president's approval rating has dropped even lower showing it is at 41 percent for the, 11th quarter, and they did it by quarter and by quarter, and 41 percent, down from the last tomorrow they took it at 45 percent, and you can see obviously it dipped from when he was sworn into office. >>dave: this is particular importance because here we are just about a year out from the election and the presidents do not bode well when you have an approval rating in the 40's but it will be the couple of months leading up to november 2012 that tells the tale and what the economy is doing. it rises and falls with the unemployment rate. >>clayton: we have heard about the solyndra scandal. now the department of energy is defending a separate set of loans that going to electric car

companies including a chunk of change going to a company called fisker. now, you think that is great, right? we will build american electric cars in the united states. but it turns out that company decides to manufacture the cars ... in finland. >>alisyn: half a billion was given to this company and the department of energy has defended the decision by saying that the money they say, today, actually went to finland but, it stayed here and the half a billion loan stayed here because there were lots of suppliers. engineering took place here. so, that is good to know if that is true that the money did not leave the country. >>dave: but the $29 million loan was made with these promises from the vice president

similar to those we heard with shin doctor -- solyndra stories. >> the president and i have never doubted that we could write a new chapter in the automotive history of this country. because we knew for real, we not only had the best workers, we had the best innovators, the best designers, and that is what this is about today. it is about what we're about in this administration, rewriting a new chapter for our economy. >>dave: about what we're about if this administration. that can come back to haunt the vice president because he went on to say this will create thousands of american manufacturing jobs. it has created zero manufacturing jobs. >>alisyn: most troubling part of the finland thing is they say they looked around in the united states for a place that could manufacture this and they could

not find any manufacturer capable. >>clayton: that could be true but another company is building the cars in the united states. so they had to go to finland? and we have a picture of the ford s.u.v. which gets better gas mileage than the electric car. >>dave: and this will cost you $96,000. we forgot to mention that! really it is for the american worker? >>alisyn: the karma is touted as getting 52 miles per hour, they say, however, an analysis shows it actually only gets 19 miles per hour and the ford will get more than that. >>dave: have you driven a fisker lately? >>clayton: we will talk about the jobs issue as we go into the

steve jobs biography and what he said about president obama playing on what you were talking about, the manufacturing base. >>alisyn: and now the headlines. authorities say there is in sign of foul play in the death of a state senator in walk -- washington state that was discovered in the hotel room. he was majority while in the legislature and the district covered the northern part of the state. the cause of death is unknown. an autopsy is planned. he leaves a wife and two kid kids. and court documents now show that cadaver dog picked up the scents of a dead body in the bedroom of baby lisa's parents and they found a pair of purple shorts in the home similar to the ones her mother said the infant was wearing when she disappeared. in another twist, a witness has come forward claiming they saw a man carrying a naked baby three miles from the irwin home on the

night lisa vanished. >> and a princeton professors with busted for disorderly conduct, he and 30 others protested the officers policy of stopping, questioning, and frisking people, and they said it unfairly targets blacks and hispanics. he was arrested last week in washington, dc after refusing to leave the steps of the supreme court. look out, another doomed satellite. expected to hit earth this weekend. experts predict 30 huge pieces of this german spacecraft will come crashing down along a 50-mile path. when and where it will fall is a mystery. do we do they havery weekend? the satellite launched into orbit in 1990 and parts of a joint mission by germany the united states and the u.k., so, put your hard hat on today.

>> and we a maria here for rick tracking the satellite. >> and if you live in the northeast we are in fall. it is late october. temperatures are feeling like where they should be the, in the upper 40's in new york city, and 44 in cleveland and 35 in chicago. the temperatures are cooler than the past couple of weeks, but, this is where we should be and this is our first wide-spread breeze for this season stretching from portions of the interior northeast across south of the great lakes and into the southeast so even cities like atlanta, georgia, dealing with temperatures in the 30's and it will be a quiet precipitation day across the nation, a few isolated showers across interior portions of the northeast and a new storm system tracking coming from the rockies, but, goes, this system has no moisture and if anything a few isolated thunderstorms in oklahoma later on today. >>dave: the vice president is using scare tactics to drum up

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>> you used a rape as opposition to --. >>guest: get it straight, guys, get it straight. don't screw around with me. listen to me, i said rape was up, three times, and there are the numbers. look at the numbers. murder is up. rape is up. burglary is up. >> and if republicans don't pass the bill rape 8 rise? >> murder will rise, rape will rise all crimes will rice. >> do you think it is appropriate for the vice president to use language if such a way? >>dave: we have the reporter who asked that question, editor of human events and radio talk show host. good morning. what offends you the most about the commends about rape in particular? >>guest: well, first off he is completely uninformed with the fact. he says what michigan, rapes have officers 152 percent but it

turns out they have decreased by 11 percent nationally violent crimes are down, thank the lord, so, if you are using this as a reference, you should be right on the facts. but, to suggest that the republican party is somehow on the side of the rapist because they don't want to cut another $35 billion check to bail out the states when we are drawning in deficits already, is, unbecoming of the office of the vice president. he should know better. the administration should not be standing by the comments. >>dave: the numbers, the facts are hard to ignore. the "washington post" did an investigation and the f.b.i. says the rape rate if that area went down as you said while he said it had tripled. so that is the first point hard to get over. if you are going to use a rape reference you better damn will be right about it. now, there are critics saying that the vice president did not put critics of the bill on the

side of rape. what do you say about that? the white house is standing by it. they say that all they are saying is with less cop, more crime. >>guest: joe biden said he wished his critics who are against the bill knew what it was like to be on the other side of a loaded gun and to have a 200 pound mantling them to submit. if that is not a rape reference, i don't know what it. the critics say i am wrong but they admit they have no idea about the english language as it is understood by 300 million people in this country. >>dave: why is the white house standing by this type of language? >>guest: it is fearmongerring, they need to bail out the states and it will go to the teachers union and the bill that died yesterday, $35 billion cut, and $30 billion was to go to teachers and $5 billion to law

enforcement but it will help the teachers union and will help the democratic coffers and democrats are opposed to increasing spending measures. so, the democrats should, i guess, know what it is like to be on the other end of a 200 pound man that is telling them to submit. >>dave: he used 4th grade students preaching the message saying the critics of the bill do not want to you have as many teachers. tell us to understand the motivation. >>guest: with biden we know that the elevator doesn't always go to the top floor we expect that but at some point you have to draw the line and rape i will say is that line to draw, but, also, this fearmongerring as though you do not want kids educated and you do not want cops open the street. of course we did. we want cops on the streets and the children educated.

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>>alisyn: and now the quick headlines. indy car driver wheeled done is

laid to rest in florida, and the public is invited, he died last weekend after a pileup at a race if las vegas. the indy 500 winner was 33 years. the state of texas will for longer serve weekend lunch to prison inmates to save about $3 million. they are now given brunch. officials say the value is the same and the rule does not apply to inmate whose need three miles for medical purposes. clayton? >>clayton: eggs benedict? revenge is not is sweet for a woman in chicago. she is accused of hurting cupcakes at her husband and has been charged with misdemeanor domestic battery. and now, former prosecutor lis wiehl and defense attorney. nice to see you. lis, you don't think the wife should have been charged in this? she was throwing objects at her husband. >> an object? a cup came, a sweet soft

cupcake, maybe icing on top? come on? that is not domestic violence and it difficult means domestic violence. >>clayton: in her against? >> they got into an argument and it escalated and it was not limited to a sweet cupcake she was beating him about the head and she grabbed the first thing she could find which happened to be a cupcake and bashed him across the head. she needs to be punished for this behave. >> a cup cupcake? a cupcake? if i hurled this at joey which i am just about to do, that would be -- don't get sweet on me. that is a problem. but a cupcake? it is not exactly a lethal weapon. >>clayton: but they have a

history. he has been arrested three times for domestic battery not cup came related and those charges have been dropped. >> the point of the matter is, it is what it could escalate to. in the situations, could the cub came have hurt him? maybe. could he have been harmed? and the real issue, would the retaliation ultimately have led to something that would have been miserable? >> do we want to clog up our system with cupcake provide lens? >> but the escalation of this --. >> but it did not happen. >> it could have. and the police show up and he is coughed in department. >> cup takes are bad, this is a slippery slope and now the next time i hob a marshmellow. >> what does it say about law enforcement that the three domestic battery cases where he has been charged they have been

dropped. >> but you look at the conduct and you worried and concerned about what could happen. she was heated with the husband but when the police arrived she wasn't topping there, she was going nuts. >> maybe because she has been beating three times before and he has gotten away. >> come on. >>clayton: i should have mentioned department. >> you are missing the story, though, here. you are missing the story. we had cupcakes for the segment and they are gone. >> you put them in the refrigerator. >> someone ate them. >> i wanted to throw a cupcake. >>clayton: new details in the bog grief about steve jobs. cannot wait to wait this book the he told president obama he was headed for a one term presidency and late night phone calls from president clinton.

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>>dave: and now, what do you do when you fall in love with your iphone? not you, clayton. ♪ will you marry me ♪ let's just be friends ♪ will you employees marry me, i'm not capable love ♪ ♪ this agreement does not cover marriage ♪ >>dave: this is not the jettisons, that is a man from california performing a duet when his intelligent assistant, and the iphone 4s understands verbal command and responds in a female voice and the antis go all over the map. the video viewed 600,000 times you can ask this phone how much wood would a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck, could chuck would? or what is the morning of life? >>clayton: it is fantastic. you can walk.

or do the meaning of life? >> you cannot have background life. >> easy, philosophical question concerning the purpose and significance of life or existence in general. >> thank you. >> i'm pot sure she answered that. >>clayton: sometimes the answer is "42," from "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy," a brain children of steve jobs. apple has been working on there and this rolled out the new iphone and now on tuesday we will see the brand new steve jobs biography which is the number one book of the year, number one open amazon since february when it was announced and the number one book on i books and all sorts of interesting stories coming out and the all their will be on "60 minutes," and we are lending a

lot. >> from sex, drugs and rock-n-roll and he talks about the political advise he gave to president obama. he, steve jobs, said he warned president obama he might only be one term. he said in the book he is headed for a one term president. the president is smart but explains to us why reasons cannot get done and it infuriates me and he says he is not friendly enough. >> and he offered to help with the advertising campaign but did not get enough respect from axelrod and my favorite portion when the engagement with his then wife, he proposed to his wife in january of, whichever year, and didn't mention the engagement for months, just let it go away. didn't even mention it in the house for months. she moved out, in october, ten positives later, and, then she got a diamond ring. interesting, lady. move out. >> so much great information in there, secret phone calls, late

night phone calls with president clinton, you have to hear about that. >> and a crazy story from occupy wall street gang, there is a florida mother of four children, two weeks ago she left her family and her husband in florida because she felt motivated and compelled to come up to occupy wall street and she has been there for two weeks and only talk toddler children 17, 14, 13, and 7, and feels like she is in the military on an assignment fighting for her country. >> i do have a community of friends that, like, i put me on facebook asking me to support me and i can be here and they stepped up and a lot of them said, i'll help you and let me know what i can do, and i am landing on staying until the end whatever that may be.

i know my kids are okay and i know that this is where i need to be right now and they support that. >>dave: i will reiterate the mother of four, what she said "military people leave their families all time so why should i feel bad, i'm fighting for a better world," that is more disdusting than any of the filth down there in wall street, equating what she is doing with military service. joe biden would be embarrassed by that. >>clayton: and her husband works for a bank. a banker. >> why not protest at home? >>alisyn: she is having a mid-life crisis in sort to leave your kids and she says she does not plan to go home but will stay for the duration. >>dave: "mother of the year." >>clayton: a poll says 50 percent of americans do not support the wall street

protests. here is a take a look at poll: 37 percent say, yes. and no, 56 percent. and 7 percent don't know. >>dave: i read about a dozen articles on that poll and they do not have that 56 percent number, you had to do a lot of research to figure out how many people don't support the movement, the lead and all of them were 37 percent of the country sports. >>alisyn: and the "washington post" says 37 percent support. we will talk more about what is going on, on wall street, but, first, headlines, because fox learned that the saudi crown prince has died. and now right now to jerusalem. >> he was the man believed the heir to the saudi prone, the crowns prince died at a new york hospital at 85 years old.

he was widely known he was not in good health and the kingdom did not say the cause of death but many believe he was suffering from colon cancer. the current king who oversees the entire kingdom is only two years older, and he also is not in good health so it is interesting to see who replaces him. focus is on the current interior minister, and that crown prince is believed possibly the next one if line and he initially believed that nows were behind the 9/11 attack and is against reforms for women which the country crown prince was very key in pushing forward, and usually it is the king who declares the successor but it is believed a group of men who are relatives of the king could be determining who the next king will be and who will replace the prince and that will be the first time they have done that. the crown prince is survived by

at least 32 wives and multiple children, including the former ambassador to the u.s., prince bandar. >> a pregnant woman is fatally shot in broad daylight after she shielded her 11-year-old daughter and several other children from the bullets and she was eventually hit in the face, and to other people were also injured. police believe the gunman firing from a roof of a building targeted a group of kids who were arguing in the street and that suspect is still lose this morning. president obama opening up the checkbook to help struggle americans who write them revealing he sent money to a few households after finding out about their real live robs. he reads ten letters selected by the stand each day and he admitted writing the check after

getting upset he could not do more faster to make a difference. bebeyond trading in her ... vehicle for a $1 million mom van. she is getting a mom van? how the mighty have fallen. it is true, the customized mercedes is equip with $150,000 audio system. a full bathroom. and a wireless internet connection. the president reagan mop star and her husband building a 2,200 square foot nursery in their new york city apartment. baby beyonce is due in february. how will that kid take it? >>clayton: i want a car like that. >>alisyn: i want a nursery like that. >>dave: more real estate just warrants a 2,200 square foot

apartment in manhattan. >> cool in the eastern part of the country, 59 is the high in new york city and 55 in cleveland and in florida ten degrees below normal, and, 76 is the high in tampa, but, otherwise, eastern two thirds of the country are warm, 80 in texas and 96 is the high in phoenix. with precipitation it will be a quiet weather day across the nation and we are not looking at a lot rain with isolated showers across interior northeast and rain across portions of the extreme pack northwest and we have a new system that is dipping from the rockies and headed eastbound bringing in rain across portions of oklahoma and texas and that is good news we are still in a drought and we need what we can get with the rainfall. unfortunately, we could see thunderstorms as well that could produce severe weather with main concerns large hail and damage willing gusts and not looking at tornadoes to be a big issue.

>>alisyn: thank you, maria. a new policy at vanderbilt university is underfire, many say it is attacking religious freedom including a university professor who will johnny us to tell us about the new policy. >> lindsay lohan cannot seem to catch a break with her community service. her sweet apology rejected. [ dennis ] allstate wants everyone to be protected on the road. whether you're an allstate customer or not. all you have to do is call. [ female announcer ] call allstate now and you'll get a free lifetime membership in good hands roadside assistance. [ dennis ] shop less. get more. make one call to an allstate agent.

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exhibit, some type of a sculpture and police asked him to get down and he is reportedly refusing standing, rather, sitting down and taking his time and we will stay, live, on this and update you as he pulls down some sort of mask over his mouths perhaps trying to keep away the stench. >>alisyn: and christian groups are worried about a new policy of vanderbilt university that imposes restrictions on who can lead them. the lead no longer has to share the same religious beliefs s this fair? and now weighing in is carol, a professor of political science and law at vanderbilt university and, also, the author of "be the people." you believe this new policy hurts christian groups. how? >>guest: because it makes it impossible for them to grow in their faith. the groups serve an important

function for students to come together, they study the bible and support each other with rare and worship. >>alisyn: explain the problem. the school says they do not is to share the same christian beliefs to be a leader, why would anyone want to lead if they do not share the faith? >>guest: the university goes further and says the organizes can not ask their leaders to lead bible study in worship part of the function of a religious leader but it affects all organizations on campus and contrary to the idea of the leader as a leader being someone that stands for a set of beliefs, is willing to support an organization and fight for the organization, and the university is trying to neutralize and centralize religion. >>alisyn: the university says it is trying to, saying this is a nondiscrimination policy. let me read to you the statement they gave.

student groups wishing to practice their faith are welcome however, but it is incumbent upon them to decide whether they wish to register student organizations at the university." no one at the university would grant us an interview and he say this is a nondiscrimination policy. does it make sense? >>guest: that discriminates against religious organizations? and the groups can remain until the effort of the academic year and then to meet they have to pay to rent rooms and most likely some of the organizations will leave the campus which, again, is not consistent with the idea of the university being a marketplace of ideas, a pleasurallism that universities preach. >>alisyn: what do you think is behind this? >>guest: police correctness. the universities in the countries have gone over the deep end when it comes to

political correctness. they are so afraid someone will be offended and in the case with the christian legal society at first they objected to the fact there were scriptures in the charter and in the constitution so they were worried that the scriptures could offend someone and it affects the religious groups in a way that does not affect the other organizations and the university removed intentions for religious organizations. >>alisyn: if people want to involve what do you do? >> we need parents and donors and alumni to write the university and register complaints because what is happening if they get away with this i am afraid other universities will be allowed to do the same. >>alisyn: is it a case of more wastively spending?

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>>clayton: more of your tax that ares wasted after getting $400,000 in stimulus money, a truck terminal sitting idle. >>dave: the owner has filed for bankruptcy and now they are comparing this to a mini

solyndra. the president of citizens against waste joining us live from washington, dc. good morning, sir. so, what is the deal? >>guest: this is another one of those stimulus programs supposed to create jobs, certainly there is a question as to why electrical hookups at truck stops even qualifies for federal aid. it is a private enterprise. the companies should be out on their own marketing and selling their products creating a demand that may or may not exist. >>clayton: were there warning signs like in solyndra saying we would never have given them money to stay in business? were in warning signs here why the government would shell out money? >>guest: this is worse because this gentleman filed for bankruptcy in 2003 and the year before he was convicts of fraud and he was writing worthless checks as they gave him the money. this is mismanagement, same as solyndra. when it is not your money no one cares how it is being spent and

it requires a lot more diligence on the part of the state and the federal government. look without are doing business with before you sign the checks. >>dave: the department of transportation has not backed up, but we found a statement and the epa did not require financial or criminal background checks or information to be disclosed on grant application. the problem is clearly not the $424,000. it is the process as a whole. the practice. is this part of a larger problem in this administration. >>guest: the federal government likes to take money from people that cannot afford to give it to them, future generations, and, then, they send it out the door without seeing if people are qualified for programs and they don't care if it is paid back. you take a larger picture, improper payments generally, $125 billion a year goes out the door in washington, dc, and they don't know where it has gone or if the people have qualified and that is three times as big as it

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>>alisyn: president obama sticking to a campaign prise ending the war in iraq declaring all american troops will be out of the country by the end of the year but is the troop exit a sign of success or a breakdown in negotiations with the iraqi government? >> fighting terror not air and in your vehicle? the t.s.a. leaving the terminal and hitting the streets to check your truck for suspicious packages. >>clayton: too fast to fly? southwest airlines is sticking by their to double the fee for an overweight woman. "fox & friends" hour two starts right now. >> you are watching "fox & friends" right now. >>dave: this is not the end of the road, only hour number two.

>>alisyn: good morning, everyone, great to have you with us on saturday morning, and we need to talk about what the president said yesterday about the end of troop presence in iraq. u.s. troops are coming home, obviously, on many levels that is good news for the families and something the president promises, however, many analysts at military commanders hoped there would still a significant force because, face it, iraqi is still precarious and iran has its eyes on iraq and threatening for move in and troop could have helped on many levels. >>clayton: here is panetta talk about that decision. >> today's announcement means that at the end of this year there will be a clear end to the u.s. combat presence in iraq. iraq is a sovereign nation. it must determine how to secure its own future. and we will help them in every

way. >> at issue is the immunity clause, right? president obama put this into motion back in 2008 and i believe during the press conference where he had the shoe thrown at him. but even the bush administration and the obama administration over the past few years thought the 2011 timeframe and the discussion and negotiations would enable 14,000 or 15,000 servicemen and women to stay behind if training operation but the immunity problem is is the immunity clause saying they have to not pay attention to iraqi law according to the law. >>dave: but the iraqis did not want our troops staying behind and our troops have that level of immune elsewhere in the world where they serve in numbers like we are talking about, 10,000 or so. so we have problems. clearly the mission is not quite finished there and rubio says when you look at iraq versus other countries, this is in the right outcome.

>> i respect what the spot trying to do and we would like an end to our engagement but do it in a way that is smart and does not threaten our security. i hope we figure out a way and a role for providing security. if this expands we will have less soldiers in iraq than honduras. that does thought make sense. >>dave: and rick perry and romney and michele bachmann saying this could be a problem what could happen in a year. clearly the base is happy, he promised to get out by 2011. and he did it. >>alisyn: as recently as august the president thought or at least the negotiators thought at least somewhere between 5,000, probably 3,000 troops to 5,000 troops would stay behind to keep iran out. >>dave: that is the biggest mission. >>clayton: and that is the biggest point. you have sadr along with

al-awlaki, he is the one who is happiest this morning, sadr, and wanted the united states forces out of iraq and the other groups in iraq were supportive of the united states maintaining a presence this, and sadr linked to iran, so you have to wonder if iran is getting a strangle hold on iraq more than we thought before. >> something went wrong with the negotiations. the fact that the negotiators thought this would be the out come of the 3,000 to 5,000 troops and between august and now something went wrong and now there is in immunity. >>dave: the critics say the obama administration let the negotiations turn bad because of the campaign promise. let us know what you think. >>alisyn: and now the headlines. libya is still celebrating the death of former dictator muammar qaddafi but the death has left more questions than answers. and now, live to tripoli with more. david? >>reporter: yes, qaddafi's

body remains in misrata in a supermarket freezer with people viewing the body, very morbid but they faced

a disturbing twist of baby irwant. qadaffi dog picked up the scent of death in her home and they found clothes similar to what the more said she was wearing when she disappeared, and, now some witnesses say they saw a man carrying a baby on the night and a short attack in australia. the victim's identity is not released but we are told she 32, diving by himself, and the body reportedly scoffed by a boater in the bay, a popular tourist park. and good news continues for herman cain. he has just beaten in the latest straw poll edging out gingrich and romney in nevada receiving 31 percent of the vote and romney got 29 percent and

gingrich got 21 percent and rick perry finished in in in 5th pla. and now, in lower manhattan, an occupy wall street protester has scaled a 40' high exhibit and police and emergency crews are on the scene and they have asked him to get down but he is refusing and we will keep you posted. he has the scarf over his mouth as though he is silenced. >> he looks like he is trying to light something there. >>alisyn: we will keep you posted on the developments with occupy wall street. >>dave: maria? >> as far as the weather in new york city we did not expect rain but it is very cool: 47 is the current temperature and it is very cool across the eastern part of the country, 41 if atlanta and 35 in chicago, so, really, starting to feel like

fall, and, the western two-thirds of the country on the warmer side, 40's right now across the northern plains and temperatures will be warming up as we head through the rest of the day. now, because of the chilly temperatures across the east, we have a number of freeze advisories and trust -- and frost advisories the most widespread and now downhill from here. high temperatures this week in new york city will not top the upper 60's. >>clayton: the t.s.a., we know of the criticism heaped upon the t.s.a. for the groping at the airport. now, the t.s.a. could be groping your tires. >>dave: they could be coming to your cars, not just the full body scan at the airport. in tennessee they now bring their form of inspection, calling this new program "the v.i.p.," visible intermodal prevention and response. you are driving down the highway, you pull to a weigh

station and state troopers can inspect your car. >>alisyn: that is the negative spin but the positive spin is tennessee's own department of homeland security says look, where is a terrorist attack most likely to happen? not in an airline because there is so much attention it is probably in a truck or car bomb. we have heard of possible attacks involving a car bomb so now they are pulling over trucks at weigh stations with bomb sniffing dogs and you can argue this is the most brim cent thing tennessee has done ever because this could be the next line of attack. >> having a dog pop up to a car and sniff for explosives or fertilizer bombs or truck piles so do you think this is the right move for the t.s.a.? >>dave: i would like to hear judge napolitano on this. why know how random the tests are so. meanwhile, are folks too fat to

fly? you have heard about this. particularly on southwest airlines. a central florida student was told she was too fat to fly although she said she would it is next to a family member if i am "spilling over," the 17" width of the plains that were going to charge her double. that is policy. >> the airline requires passenger who cannot fit into the 17" gap between the armrest, that is what the seats are on southwest, they have to give up extra money, saying the flight has not been overbooked so you have the opportunity to buy the extra seat and this is their estimate from southwest, if a passenger cannot fit in the seat with the armrest down, a second seat must be purchased if the flight is not sold, that added charge will be refunded. >> obviously there is lots of room for ... interpretation. if you are going to not sale a

seat, shouldn't you have to pay but in the situation with the student she says she was next to her relative who was fine with it, so why can't that person decide? why does the ail need to charge her? >> common sense. southwest is usually very good about having a conversation and going back and saying we made a mistake, but let us know what you think, fox&friends.com, you are on a plan and you pay for a seat do you want someone else's body if your seat? >> it happened to me. i wish that go was charged double. infuriated. and now, how do you feel about this story. coming up, occupiers are mad at the rich and wall street but is the anger misplaced? [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables?

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>>guest: if you watch the occupy wall streeters they say you need to read foreign literature to learn about protesting but you don't. i have everything you need. >>clayton: are they targeting the right individuals? do you approve or disapprove of the goals of the occupy wall street, and most americans do not know enough about the movement to make an informed decision on whether they support occupy wall street. is the movement falling on deaf heres? >>guest: it is tough. it is scattered. their mission statement is they hate capitalism but they love body. if you look at folks they look like the san francisco retread. here is the problem, we agree on the premise. we are against wall street. against big bank bailouts. great. i'm on board. but that is not capitalism. bailing out failed business is socialism to a tee so when you say you want bigger government to 96 that, that is ripping off.

>>clayton: so wraps going to washington, dc, your argument is these bangs are the biggest contributors of obama? >>guest: i have a list, we have goldman sachs, morgan stanley, just look at his donors but to talk about political corruption i have the top political donors from 1989 to the present, why not talk about the international brotherhood of electrical workers and teachers union, if you want to talk about politics that are bought and sold. big oil does not crack the top five, 15 of the top 20 are a form of unions. i am against centralized power. i am against kickbacks to giant powerful political contributors. the difference here i don't believe that socialism is the way to fix that or that anyone with two brain cells would think that.

>>clayton: or overregulation which is what we hear from the steve jobs biography of president obama, and the occupy wall street mourned the death steve jobs so they have conflicting messages. >>guest: well, you are talking about a movement who is trying to gain steam of how much they hate capitalism through twitter. soutane any is lost. these things, by the way, listen, we are giving them attention because they are cute and crazy and it is funny and silly but the fact the protests are pathetically attended. if it are a tea party they would stay we are going home this was a lose-lose but the media wants to act as though they are accomplishing something and they aren't. that is what this comes down to. it is great for a dialogue. we agree on more than we disagree. i am totally against the wall street bailouts it is a huge scam. we sudden not give them more money to screw up with.

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>> a new policy in new york city requires students as young as ten and 11 to take sex education

classes that include explicit lesson plans. should it be up to parents to teach the kids about the birds and bees? and now, we have the president of concerned women for america. >>guest: good morning. >>alisyn: we will talk about the new program, the first time in two decades it has been implemented, mandatory for middle school kids and what parents are objecting to today is they will learn graphic names for "a variety of solitary and mutual sex acts," they will learn how to use a condom, they will take a field trip to the pharmacy to buy birth control, what do you make of this? >>guest: this is a classic clash between big government and parental rights. the mayor is trying to force on these families in new york a form of sex education they have

rejected. by the way, most people do not realize there are more children, 1.1 million in the new york city school system than in eight states. so, the idea that a one-size-fits-all approach works for all the kids and all the families is ludicrous. you have a group of parents saying, look, we just want plan (b) a good abstinence base program we can choose rather than having this form of second education we don't approve it that clashes with our values. >>alisyn: and the chancellor of schools said this terms of abstinence saying it is very important part of the curriculum but we also have a responsibility to ensure that teens who are choosing to have sex understand the potential consequences of their action and know how to keep themselves safe so we need a comprehensive curriculum he makes the point that parents are failing at this. there is teenage pregnancy.

there is, there are many std's. is it the school's responsibility to teach kids this? >>guest: we have give parents that say we are talking and we want a different form of sex education. by the way, we know that abstinence based sex education works really well, 17 different programs that have been well studied. we have social science studyies and nih has said abstinence based education works. they have a right. they have parental rights which is recognized by the constitution and afilled by the supreme court. the question is, who has the right to teach our children values? the school system? the government? or parents? >>alisyn: it comes down to the school trying to undermine parental rights. thank you penny, for joining us.

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>> and now, this is no joke, it is java the burger a super sized burger, a restaurant in michigan serving up a 350-pound cheeseburger. folks at the grill are trying to break their own world record, the massive burger is topped with 20 points of american cheese, 50 pounds of vegetables, ten pounds of bacon, and, of course, 100-pound bun. >>dave: there is really ever any meat i would not try but the problem is, the chickness of the burger is going to be raw in the middle county so if you can thin that baby out and drop her down to about ... that thick ... >>clayton: i would be concerned how you fit it into

your mouth. >>dave: i dislocates my jaw for certain things. >>clayton: mick jagger. >>alisyn: and now halloween treats. if you are a parent and you know your kids are looking forward to hall when but more and more schools are canceling halloween celebration and they have a host of issues and reasons why they say they are canceling. one of them, which was one of the most eyebrow raising is that a principal says, look, this is an american tradition and we don't want to offend our new immigrants, they don't understand halloween and this could scare them. >>clayton: come on. >>alisyn: this is in organize land, he says this can lead to student exclusion, there are social, financial, and cultural differences among the families we must respect. >>dave: they want to celebrate

the spirit of equity says the school in portland, oregon, not excluding people to wear costumes. >>clayton: they do not want candy corn, candies. come on, leave halloween alone. leave it alone. >>dave: they have eliminated christmas. >>clayton: you can take all of the signs out of this, and kids just want to get dressed up and excited and go get costume. they get excited. >>alisyn: this is why i don't like halloween. i am totally halloweened out. but i am halloween impaired because i don't have enough creativity to make a costume and come up with something. >>clayton: you are making the costume. >>alisyn: when i was a child. everyone had a better costume than me.

>>clayton: she dressed up for the same thing for 15 years. >>alisyn: i am flapper. >> i go to a party and someone says "i am wind," people are creative and the eastern any is, the principal would doesn't want the kids to dress up, it is an arts school, where they are artists. >>dave: eastern -- irony. >>alisyn: and we have news. the saudi crown prince aziz has died after a battle with colon cancer. we go to's' reporter like in jerusalem. >>reporter: well, secretary of state hillary clinton said the crown prince will be missed and offered her condolences. he passed appear at 85, in a new york hospital. he will be flown on a saudi jet from john f. kennedy to saudi

arabia and the funeral services will take place on tuesday. the head of the defense ministry for many decades is only two years younger than the current king of saudi arabia and he was expected to be the next king so it will be interesting to see who becomes his replacement. focus is on the interior ministry who is a controversial figure. he believed that jaws were behind the helping in the 9/11 attacks and is against reforming rules against women, so it is uncertain who the replacement is. usually the king decides but there is a council, a group of men, relatives who are expected to pebble determine who the replacement is. it is not dealer if the king will announce mat or if the council will take over. there are 32 children the prince

leaves behind and multiple wives ali? >>alisyn: thank you for that update. and now the headlines, a tragic horrible story, a pregnant mother risked her own live to save her daughter and several other children when gunshots rang out on a new york city street. the 34 year old mother died after getting struck in the face. two other people were also injured and police believe the gunman was firing from a roof of a building targeted kids arguing below and that suspect is loose. the trial of michael jackson's personal doctor, dr. conrad murray taking a bizarre turn after a key defense witness mumbled a bad word. i don't if i can say this on television. >>clayton: sure you, it is in the news. >>alisyn: he mumbled "scum bag," as the doctor testify asked set a hearing to consider

whether the doctor should be found in contempt of court foralliedly making the comment to the media, and sheehan expert on propofol and is the last approximate witness. and now in an effort to make pennsylvania more handicap accessible they build new wheelchair ramps on the streets but the problem is the ranches do not connect to the sidewalk. residents frustrated their money was wasted. >> there are tons other things we could have spent tax dollars on other than handicap spots that go nowhere. >>alisyn: they say this is necessary to meet new federal code regardless of whether the sidewalk is attached. that seems leak a design flaw. and maria is outside in our 49-degree temperature here.

winter. >> it is feeling chilly across the northeast. and we have frost advisory in the interior portion of the region and the great lakes stretching down all the way down to parts of alabama and georgia so feeling cool out there and the high temperatures will not be warming up much. 55 is the high 24 cleveland and 59 in new york city and a high of only 68 in atlanta, georgia, and texas feeling the warmth with highs in the 80's, well above urge a, and 96 is the high temperature in the west in phoenix, arizona. as far as rainfall, the fix graphic shows not much activity right now across the nation, dry in texas and southeast dry, florida looking good and a few isolated showers across the interior portion of the northeast but most people will not see them and a new storm system exiting the rockies and you can see the storm system right now, bringing in isolated

showers across nebraska and bringing in a slight chance for severe storms this afternoon into the evening across portions of oklahoma and north of dallas, texas. >> the world series is here and the texas rangers and cards naturals are battling it out. would goes home with the trophy? we will ask former mets pitcher and analyst, from the 1986 mets, a red sox fan. okay? >> you are crying. >>dave: he is my guy. >>guest: i root for the red sox. >>alisyn: us, too. >>clayton: a lot of people are rooting for the cardinals and for the rangers. they failed last area in the world series, down two games. your assessment? >>guest: i don't know they failed last year, the rangers had a brilliant season and everyone expected them to win because they had such an amazing

go and they had walk off grand slams, things that have never happened before, but i do think, i spent seven days covering the cardinals and it is hard to go against them they seem to have that mojo working. going to texas --. >> i will take the side bet for the burger. >>dave: three, four, in texas, on fox tonight at 8:00. >>alisyn: and something else going on during baseball and that is chewing tobacco. >>dave: and united states senator urging the banning. >>guest: it is great. i grew up, i'm the oldest person neverry reason all the time and in my days guys smoked and that phased out and now, why shouldn't it be that way? major league baseball, of course, they are against it, it is a collective bargaining

agreement, and everyone on the side of justice knows --. >> what do the players union say? >> i will say this at some point, someone said i play hard because i never know who is watching and i want to entertain them. the players never know who is watching, a young child watching them with a chew or snuff, that is a problem. >>dave: major league is pouring millions into the "stand up to cancer," tell tuesday of the effort. >>guest: what is great, they will pledge up to $30 million and mastercard raised $4 million already this summer an amazing event and i am lucky to be part of this. i was part of this brilliant commercial, with great teammate, gary carter is battling and my

father-in-law and mother-in-law passed away from it we all have people in our families touched by this, and for the companies to get together mastercard and the players standing up, it is great. >> you were touched personally by your teammate. >>guest: what is interesting when the commercial was shown for the first time i get a text and it is from gary, and it says my baseball teammates call me r.j., and he said r.j. and he stopped and i guess he was emmole, and he said this is one of the guest things that happened. i was touched and emotional. >>clayton: we will see that commercial during game four of the world series. final rediction? >>guest: i have to go with cards naturals. i watched them. in texas.

>>clayton: you heard it here. >>dave: stand up number two on twitter for standing up for cancer. >>alisyn: thank you. >>clayton: the housing market stinks but romney says it needs to get worse and we should let it hit rock bottom first. [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables?

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>> quick headlines, gumby will have to first a judge. jacob tried to rob a san diego 7/11 telling the clerk he had a gun and the clerk did not believe him. he will be in court on burglary charges. called the case of a missing vehicle, a missouri man noticed his car stolen 16 years ago listed for sale online, and the vehicle was his and the man selling it was duped, whoever took the car in 1995 switched the vehicle identification number and he had no idea. dave? >> thank you, romney criticized president obama early this week for moving too slowly on foreclosed homes. >> don't try and stop the process let it run its course and hit the bottom and allow

investors to buy home and put renters in and fix up the homes and the obama administration has slow walked the foreclosure process and so we still have a foreclosure overhead. >>dave: was that insensitive? we have a distinguished professor of real estate finance and senior scholar at george mason university. and a foreclosure defense attorney. good morning to both of you. anthony, you think romney has a point we should let the people loss their homes, get the foreclosures out of the system. why? >>guest: well, first all, put this in context. fannie mae and freddie mac pumped $8 trillion into the housing finance market so we stimulated the market there and we have affordable housing programs, and interest deductions and the fed bought $1

trillion of mortgage backed securities to stimulate the market and we have overstimulated housing market and what he is referring to and what i refer to is we have to let the market settle out because it is to deflated and distorted it is not working properly. on the issue of people losing their homes, foreclosure is stressful process, horrible, but we are if longer in the debtor prison society that was in europe. we actually have default foreclosure as an objection to less us hit the reset button. >>dave: michael, look, billions of dollars, several programs have been come up with by the obama administration to keep people if their homes but you say this is the right idea. what should we do? how long can we keep throwing

money at the problem? >>guest: well, it is not money. the only one that benefits from foreclosure are the banks. we have to stop foreclosures. this is only one person that can order anyone or make a decision about what the fair thing to do is and that is a judge. owe judicial process is wonderful, but it is slow. if you allow the banks to foreclosure you are making a situation much worse. and the reason you making it much worse is this: everyone now knows that almost all foreclosures are illegal, we have the robo signing and the banks used fraud ulent process to foreclosure so this is ongoing fraud. the banks literally steal homes using forged and fraudulent

documents and resell the homes and now a year or two or three years later what we are seeing is by the time the homeowner challenges the decision in court, that home has been sold at least once, and maybe twice, and now they finally get justice, and the problem is, they have to go to the new homeowner and say, you know, i have bad news for you. the judge decides it is my house and you have to leave and i get it back. >>dave: wish we had time to offer the fraud question. we are out of time. thank you for being with us. this debate continues how do we solve the housing crisis? we node a good answer. democrats applauding the president for ending the war in iraq but it is not helping with his approval rating today the president hitting a new law. arnold did it to maria and lied for years so how do you know if

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>>clayton: the rumors fly but ashton cheating on demi and the marriage seems to be on the rocks but 50 percent of married women and 60 percent of married men are cheating according to a study. >>dave: how can you me if your spouse is cheating? we have the cheater meter, a cyto therapist and doctor of the marriage manual. we have a couple of tips. but you say this are things can you do to win him back and prevent the cheating. >>guest: yes! >>alisyn: first the signs. this first one, my husband does

all the time. he travels for work. so you cannot just automatically say that means they are cheating. >>guest: when it comes to the meter if you fit one of the signs of being a cheater it is very important you proactively prevent cheating, traveling for work. >>alisyn: what am i supposed to do? >>guest: while he is away, rather than it being all about responsibility, you make sure to give him that call, put in a love note, pay attention to him beyond responsibilities when he is away and back. send a sexy text. but act with consistency with the text. >>clayton: distancing from you, if he pulls away or she starts to pull away that is a big sign. >>guest: distancing is a huge sign and an example is if you are sleeping in separate beds do

not do that. another sign is the man cave. >>alisyn: that is a bad sign? >>guest: bad sign. >>dave: my man cave never got off the ground. does not show appreciateing you. >>guest: you cook, make a nice meal, and they are not saying "thank you," as though they really have checked out. >>alisyn: if that stops happening and a big one, if you your spouse is complaining a lot, suddenly stop complaining, that is a red flag because obviously they are getting side happiness. >>guest: huge red flag if nothing has changed and they stop complaining, that is a very huge warning sign. >>clayton: pay attention to the tips and get working on the text messages.

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>> good morning, everybody, on saturday, october 22, the troops are coming home from iraq. all of them. president obama declaring the end of the iraq war in 2011. but is the war really over? or is it pull out war about a breakdown in negotiations? we we will explore that. >>dave: and the president's rating sinking and why this could spell doom for the re-election chance. >>clayton: need a break from your spouse and four kids? a woman occupying wall street and now leaving behind her family. >> i know i am in the right place and i should be here and i am doing the right thing.

>>clayton: e-mails and thoughts on the wall street occupier coming up, she left her four kids and husband at home. "fox & friends" hour three starts right now. >> you are watching "fox & friends" this morning. >>dave: that was john tesh. love his radio show. >>clayton: thank you for waking up with us. >>alisyn: great to see you and now the big announcement: the troops are coming home from iraq. this is controversial for many reasons. basically, there was talk in the commander and military analysts said if we could leave behind about, i think 20,000 to 40,000, which is a big, a significant portion. the numbers are all over the

place but the commanders said that amount would keep iran from making inroads into iraq which of course is the big fear. iraq is precarious, still. so if we leave now will something bad happen? will everything we fought for have been in vain? that was a fear yesterday. >>dave: this fell apart over the word "immunity," in negotiations because iraq would not guarantee our troops that stayed, guarantee immunity from iraqi laws which our drops have around the world where we dean troops. did the president have any choice but to pull out? some say he allowed the negotiations to turn bad in order to follow up on the 2008 campaign promise. >>clayton: how did the negotiations turn bad? a criticism is the president and the administration did not send

an envoy to meet with them doing it over the phone and the ambassador bolton talking about this issue. >> well, if you say, what are the options in the last three months of negotiation when the dead loom is looming and when the question of immunity is a dealbreaker it is hard to find a way out. that is why i believe the president always wanted to get everyone out and he allowed the necks to collapse. so, the mistakes is been made over protracted period of time. >>clayton: and florida senator rubio weighing in disagreeing with the decision. >> i respect what the president is trying to do and we would like to see an end to the engagement but in a way that is smart and does not threat were our security. we hope we figure out a role for us in terms of providing security because as it stands we will have less socials in iraq than in honduras and that does not make sense.

>> and the president's approval numbers seem to be taking a hit not as a result of this but the 11th quarter, everybody that happened in the 11th quarter of the presidency and you can see his approval rating is 41 percent down from frye percent from the previous quarter and, very far down great when he took office at 63 percent. >>dave: other presidents have been re-elected including ronald reagan with a 44 percent approval rating at this time and bill clinton only at 46 percent so rebounds can happen but the downward trend, of course, the scary thing for the president, and not about foreign policy regardless of libya and what is happening that is helping the president. all about the economy, the unemployment rating it does not change that approval rating. >>clayton: the president has had a couple of victories recently, from john mccain and others and the libyan people

celebrating the death of muammar qaddafi but questions of how he will be buried. and when. david? >>reporter: yes, qaddafi's body is in misrata a two hour drive here from triply. and it was supposed to be buried secretly yesterday but international criminal court got involved and it seems the investigators want to. whatten the body and there are suggestions that there could be a post-mortem because of claims that qaddafi was executed after being captured in sirte on thursday. >>clayton: and he is in a freezer and people are taking pictures by cell phone of his body. >>dave: he had stashed away $200 billion before his death. billion. not million. billion. billions around the world and that is trying to be recovered

and a third of people are in poverty. >>alisyn: we want to show you a live look in downtown manhattan the occupy wall street protests and earlier a protest scaled this 40' high exhibit in the park and you can see the police of bringing in hostage negotiators to try and talk him down. they even brought him a telephone. his name is dylan. he has been up there for two hours. and he says he is not going to eat, drink, or step down until the mayor of new york city steps down. >>dave: good luck. >>alisyn: we will keep you posted. we hope nothing tragic happens. >>dave: the mayor said crackdowns are coming. >>alisyn: we will keep you posted on that. there is no sign of foul play in the death of a state senator in washington state, the

41-year-old's body was discovered yesterday in a hotel room and the democrat served as majority whip in the legislature and the district covered the northern parts of seattle. the cause of death is unknown and an autopsy is planned, and he leaves behind a wife and two kids. stunning new developments in the case of missing baby lisa, dogs have picked up the scent of a dead body in the bedroom of her parents' home and police confirming they found a pair of purple shorts in the home similar to the ones her mother said the infant was wearing when she disappeared and, then, a witness has now come guard claiming they saw a man carrying a naked baby about three miles from the irwin home on the night that lisa vanished. and now, a princeton professor was busted for disorderly conduct outside a new york city police station. he and 30 others professorred the policy of stopping, questioning, and frisking people saying it unfairly targets

blacks and hispanics and was arrested last week in washington, dc, after refusing to leave the steps of the supreme court. >> two florida women facing criminal charges after encouraging their teenage girls to fight with the brawl posted on youtube and the women are standing in the back group. one of them is the girl's mother and the other is an older sister and the two families reportedly have a long-standing feud and both now are charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. read a book. come on. >>dave: maria has the weather. >> my public service announcement in the northeast is to grab a jacket as you head out the door because it will be chilly and right now it is already chilly at 47 in new york city and 41 in cleveland and current temperature of only 37 in chicago and some of the cool air has moved southbound where

we have chilly temperatures across the state of florida and 52 in tampa and 41 right new if atlanta, i can't., and because of the cool temperatures we have a number of frost advisories from the interior northeast all the way down into the florida panhandle where we will look at frost on the windshield headed out this morning and sunday among, so it will be the entire weekend ongoing and we have freeze warnings in effect across portions of the interior region of the southeast including parts of tennessee and northern alabama so we are looking at that. otherwise, as far as the rain goes, not a lost action going on this weekend and we have a few isolated showers across the interior northeast today and not much going on right now and as we head west we have a system exiting the rockies that is bringing in a few light showers across portions of nebraska and this afternoon into the evening we could look at isolated showers and storms across southern oklahoma and northern texas and that, and some of the

thunderstorm could bring large hail and damaging wind. we will keep an eye on that. >>clayton: and at a lot of you are weighing in on this, a florida mom has decided to up and leave her four kids and husband behind because she says she felt "called to duty," to come to occupy wall street. leave her family behind. listen. >> i have a community of friends after putting something on facebook asking them to support me so i could be here and they stepped up and a lost them said, i'll help you, let me know what i can do, landing on staying until the end whenever that may be. i know my kids okay and i know that this is where i need to be and they are in support of that. >>alisyn: she will stay, forever if that is what it takes

her children are 17, 15, 13, and seven. she says she has talked to them three times in the two weeks sense she left. these are tender ages. to be without your mother. >>dave: and her husband is a banger. here is what you said. she needs to get back to real life and quick being a drain on her friends. she just wanted a chance to relive some freedom. >>clayton: some suggest he is living with a waiter up here. >> and another says i can't believe she compares this to being in the military there is no one shooting at her and he is not defending anyone's life. that is what she likened it to. >>dave: she said military people leave their families all the time so why should i feel bad, i am making a better world. >>alisyn: she is living with a waiter. sort of. they are occupying the same cement square block.

they are not romantic but they are we providing warmth. >>clayton: and in florida, the mother abandons responsibility to protest the lack of responsibility. sick. >>alisyn: and her husband is a banger. that could be more of a window into her mind, she could be protesting something else besides capitalism. he used to work for bang of america. >>dave: let us know how you feel about that on twitter. does qaddafi's death mean it is just the beginning of chaos in libya? [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up!

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>>clayton: president obama announcing all u.s. troops will pull out of iraq by the end of this year. this are 40,000 troops in the country. democrats applauding the decision. are we leaving too soon? the author of i "lines of fire." was the decision to pull out too soon? >>guest: well, it was tragic and it was not our decision. we are being booted out. we should make no mistake, iran won. that is unfair because we did not try to play obama. president obama deserves points for growing in the job, he

authorized killing bin laden and al-awlaki and drone strikes and he got libya right but this is a super bowl. iraq matters. but obama made a campaign promise, the left had a blind spot on the response because it was bush's war. therefore, it was a bad war. and iraq matters. afghanistan doesn't. iraq has the oil, the strategic location, location, location, and iran must move in to fill the vacuum and what happened is straightforward. the iranians would play chess when we play checkers knew the one thing they could use against us is the issue of immunity for the troops if accuses of a crime. one, they knew we cannot agree to allow our troops be tried on spurious charges in kangaroo courts and they knew the iraqi people are bitter about the atrocious behaviors of the mercenaries we employed, the

blackwater people and others so this is a ready made issue and tehran used sadr's people and others in baghdad to leverage the issue and obama did not engine. he has never engaged with iraq and we are losing. >>clayton: that is the criticism the obama administration did not send an envoy to have a discussion about the future our relationship but the criticism saying to the obama administration this morning, by your metric of us getting out of ike because they need to stand you, why are we still in korea? we have had troops there for decades. >>guest: well, again, back to location, location, location. with the iranian nuclear problem looming and the region on the brink of crisis we wanted and needed a continuing presence in iraq, not a large presence, about 20,000 to 25,000 troops

but imagine if we were forced to respond militarily to iran's nuclear program wouldn't it be better to have troops on the ground and bases in iraq next door rather than letting iran spill over into the strategic vacuum? i cannot stress enough, this is a strategic tragedy for the united states and oh beam -- obama did it. >>clayton: and libya is waking up with no more qaddafi and criticism this is a country that is like iraq, three regions that could not even be a country is this a country descending into sky office? >>guest: we don't know because libya doesn't know. you raised the point throughout the middle east the countries are artificial, the monster of frankenstein and borders drawn

by europeans. if libya, we don't know the future because libyans do know but the rulers, the council, have three challenges: get the economy going. money has to flow. two, they have to get the militias under control and get arms off the street. very hard because there are tribal factions right and left. and, three, the toughest, euphoria, with qaddafi's death euphoria is sweeping the country and people expect their likes to get better and they will not get better so it is very, very hard, and the turmoil is going to go on for years. >>clayton: excellence analysis, very thought provoking points. thank you, we appreciate it. coming up, the medical question everyone is asking this week

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>>alisyn: and a couple have been open about their struggle to conceive a baby on their reality show and on our show and appeared on "fox & friends" and spoke of getting ready for the third round of in vitro. >> a lofts people come up and whisper to me, whether i was getting a manicure and they would say "go to denver," and i looked it up and the guy has 72 percent success rate. for me, if we are going do do it a third time i want to go to the

bet. >>alisyn: we did not know she was fighting breast cancer and now the question everyone is asking, could the in vitro treatment have led to the cancer. and now, a hormone therapy expert and internist. thank you for being here. this is not the first time this has been speculated there have been other cases pumping your body full of hormones as you do with in vitro does that lead to cancer? >>guest: no one has made the direct connection but it is connected with infertility. >>alisyn: there is a connection between cancer and infertility but not the treatment. >>guest: no, birth control pills, and in vitro is connected to early menopause then ivf is a really important thing because it helps women have babies but open the other hand nobody cares about anything but for the women getting pregnant, what happens to the women after is what we should address. >>alisyn: that is right,

obviously, women are so desperate when they go through this and i can speak personally you do not thing of the consequences but should a study be done to figure out if it is okay to do round after round? why don't we study this? >>guest: that is a good we and the question, really, is, do we care about the women? if we cared with we would study but the women are so desperate, you want do have a baby and no one, the doctors don't know and don't tell you. but we do know if you put foreign hormones interest your body you will pay a price if the long run. you are changing the natural hormone balance if your body and that will affect you. how it will affect you is a question that needs to be studied but there are a lot of cases, isolated cases, now, in this indicate, with this actress, the question, really, is why would a doctor during ivf order mammograms? he already knew this was

something wrong. >>alisyn: we don't know what led her to get a mammogram she is only 37 so we did not know why she went in for the mammogram. she had only done two rounds. as you know some women do eight rounds. >>guest: i have had patients with 20 rounds and no one, the doctors, they did not address it and the women did to the know but this is the thing. i think they must have, i am not her doctor, but i am speculating, as a doctor who takes care of patients she probably had something wrong. otherwise they would not have sent her for a mammogram. now, to have breast cancer in both breasts at the age of 36 or 37, common sense along with science should raise the question, isn't there a connection? >>alisyn: if you do not have a family history, something must have sparked it, in general. >>guest: even with a family history at that age you are really young, you should be full of hormones and they should in balanced. when you put in hormones that do

not match your body hormone you are asking for something. >>alisyn: what is the message for women who want a child? >>guest: balance. identify what you are really add risk for. be careful. balance. the need for having a need of a baby versus the need of taking care yourself. you will have a baby and then what? you will die. take care of yourself because women are really important and do not forget that. >>alisyn: it is wonderful to be so open and she is helping everyone with awareness. we appreciate you coming in, doctor. herman cain defending his 9-9-9 plan. >> they are attacking my plan before they understood the whole plan. and we have made the analysis available. remember, 9-9-9 means jobs, jobs, jobs, so that is why they are attacking its.

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>>clayton: this will make you want to go back to bed. 6,810 bottles of wine come crashing down at a liquor store in wisconsin. >>clayton: a crime. the shells were intact for 31 years and they are not sure why they clipped. >>clayton: no! it took eight hours to clean it up. call dave and i next time. >>alisyn: that is one ploy -- my favorite towns in wisconsin. >>clayton: and now the temperatures up there in wisconsin this morning. >> we have a crowd out here

right now. >>clayton: for the wine. >> we have people here from new orleans. big crud from new -- crowd fromw orleans and detroit, and el paso. feels chilly and it is starting to feel like fall across not just new york city but the rest of the necessary and the great lakes region, and down into the southeast. today's high temperature in atlanta, why., only 68 and in florida, 75 for a high temperature in tampa, very cool for this time of the year. not really looking at a lot of precipitation and it will be a very quiet weekend as far as rain, and we have a few isolated showers that are possible in the northeast, but as we zoom into the northwest there is actually going to be rainfall coming down and that will be the story through not just this weekend but, also be the next several days so grab the umbrella if you live in seattle. otherwise, looking ahead as we

move forward another storm system is exiting the rockies and bringing in isolated showers and very light stuff in nebraska and that will bring in a concern, later this afternoon, into this evening, as we look at severe storms possible in parts of oklahoma and northern texas. >>alisyn: thank you. and now the headlines. in the news, a very tragic and disturbing story, a pregnant mother being called a her he after shielding her daughter and several other kids from gunshots on a street in brooklyn, new york, the throe-year-old mother died after being struck in the face. the gunman was firing from a roof of a nearby building targeted a group of kids arguing and that suspect is still on the loose at this hour. the body of saudi crown prince aziz is being glenn back to saudi arabia this morning, the 85-year-old passed away in new york at a hospital after eight

year long battle with cancer. he was the first in line to succeed his half brother, and his death now paves the way for his controversial younger brother to take over. the state department warning u.s. citizens to reconsider the risk of traveling to iran as a result of hostility in the country toward the united states, and americans could be subject to harassment, or even be arrested while visiting. last month the two men hikers were freed after being jailed more two years. they were accused of spying. president obama opening up his checkbook to help struggling members who wrote to him. a new book revealing he sent money to a few households after finding out about their real life problems. each day the president reads about ten letters that are selected by the staff and the president admitted to writing the check after getting upset he could not do more faster to make a difference in their lives. very cool. beyonce trading if her vehicle for a $1 million van, not the

kind of mom van you drive but a customized mercedes, reportedly equipped with $150,000 audio system. all the better to hear jay-z with and a gulf bathroom and wireless internet connection, and they are building a $2,200 square foot nursery in the new york city apartment. that is bigger than my entire program. baby beyonce is due in february. i want to move into her nursery. >>clayton: governor huckabee pulled up in his "mom" van. governor, nice to see you. i would love to see that. >>dave: you roll up in a mom van? >>governor huckabee: can you not see me in a million van with $150,000 stereo system. are you kidding me? >>dave: i can see that.

>>governor huckabee: you are picking on me. >>clayton: glad do have you, a lot is happening in politics and interesting towns for herman cain. and new tax policy from rick perry this week, a flat tax. but it appears that herman cain is shipping on the 9-9-9 plan, shifting so that, now, there are exemptions for people who are under poverty line, and, exemptions for businesses who go into opportunity zones and build in places like detroit and so forth. what do you make of this? >>guest: i don't think it is a great idea because what people loved about 9-9-9 was the simplicity. now that you start having exceptions and here are different ways in which it can be nuanced it will end up looking like the i.r.s. land which is, okay, create some exemptions and then you get more when someone else lobbies. everyone would love a simple tax plan. simple does not mean necessarily that everyone will love it. but the simplicity is what sold

it. i think, too, when you start talking about enterprise zones it sounds good but the question, if you are a conservative that says you should not make winners and losers and that is his argument, do you then create winners and losers by saying if you are live if this district you are a winner and in this district you are a loser because the government subsidizes you here but not here. >>dave: i give him credit for starting the conversation for, perhaps, as clayton said, maybe he pushed rick perry for the flat tax that comes out. but the problem is, he flip-flopped or flopped with the abortion stand on cnn early this week and charles krauthammer linked that to herman cain "winging it," right now. >>governor huckabee: he does not have a large staff and not surrounded with people who are sitting him down and saying we will go through the policy and make sure we are ready to answer the tough question.

the presidential campaign is a shredding machine. each day you will be faced not just with the big questions but with nuance questions. people are going to dissecretary every word and look for a way to take you apart not media and the opponents. >>alisyn: but his answer was not well-thought-out saying it is a family choice. that is a pro choice. >>governor huckabee: very pro choice. and he tried to walk it back but the damage is done for a lot of true pro life people who say, gee, that is not what we wanted to hear. >>dave: he said it is legal but how does that hurt in iowa. >>governor huckabee: iowa is pro life state, and social conservatives make up 40 percent of the electorate and he cannot win iowa by office depending him. >>clayton: we talked about the solyndra scandal and the botched solar program and now we hear

word of the new electric car program the department of energy has loaned out $529 million to build this car which is the fisker car which i never heard of. called "karma," and they get $529 million from the federal government to build the car but we learn they have new done the manufacturing of the cars in finland. >>governor huckabee: $529 million reasons to be ticked off. the car costs $97,000. supposed to be a green car. but it only goes 32 miles before the turbo charged motor kicks in off the electric which means by the time you average it in it gets 19 miles per hour a gone which, by the way, is less miles a gallon than a ford explorer s.u.v. so you could buy three of the explorers for the cost of a karma and still have less impact on the environment.

but other than that it is a great idea. >>alisyn: and none of the half billion went to finland of the guarantee but went to suppliers in the issue. does that make you feel better? >>governor huckabee: no, to it $529 million use of my tax money to build a car less efficient than the cars we are building in michigan. it is absurd and insane. other than that, it is great. >>dave: but the promise from vice president saying it would create thousands of jobs. >>governor huckabee: the only thing it is manufacturing is money we are printing and sending overseas. >>alisyn: so the karma ran over your dogma. >>dave: she has been waiting to say that. >>alisyn: for two hours. >>clayton: we will be right back. let an atheist lead a christian

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atheist lead the group. we we have former governor of arkansas, governor huckabee. >>governor huckabee: this is crazy. the point is all groups by nature have a level of exclusiveness. i cannot join the junior league because i'm not the proper gender and i'm too old. both of those reasons make it impossible for me to join the junior league. should i sue and demand i get to be part of junior league? i don't think so. this is absurd. christian organizations have a right to say if you are teaching in the christian organization you adhere to christian principles. so deny that, it might as well be a social club that means nothing. >>alisyn: why are they doing this? >>governor huckabee: trying to be politically correct and they are offending everyone and their own version of common sense. it is dumbest thing. a university that is this stupid deserves to have all their degree granting programs taken away. if they are not smart enough to know you do not impose this ...

i would not send my child to a school and if i were a supporter i would say you do not get another dime of my money. until the change this stupid policy. this is stupid. we need to say it as it is. >>clayton: more of that on the huckabee show tonight. >>dave: and charles gasparino went down to wall street as did bill shultzs. should be entertaining tonight. >>alisyn: so he stole hearts when he hit the big screen "the notebook," celebrating the 15th anniversary and the author joins us with the secret formula. ñ

it isn't over. it still isn't over. >>alisyn: don't stop. i'm hooked. "notebook," one of the many films based on the love stories of nicholas sparks, and that book was published 15 years ago. he has a new book, the 17th called "the best of me," and now, best selling author, st. nicholas sparks. >>guest: thank you. >>alisyn: it has been 15 years since you wrote the notebook that was turned interest a movie. back then, you were selling farther suit californias. >>guest: yes, i had a mid-life crisis, i had written a couple of novels to see if i could on a whim and i thought, what can i

do, and i decided to try to be a novelist and take it seriously and six months later. >>alisyn: it is a huge undertaking, how did you do it so successfully? >>guest: it is interesting, i was married, we had a second child at that time and that child did not sleep so my wife was going to bed at 8:30 at night so i am getting home great work, she is off, i'm alone and i could walk tv or chase a dream so i worked from 8:30 until 11:30 and been day on the weekend and i had no pressure because i did not have publisher. allegation you have had ten, none one best sellers. you have a secret formula. >>guest: that would be nice. there are ways i conceive of a story. >>alisyn: what is it?

>>guest: i make the decision on the age of the we characters because that informs the dilemma and figure how they meet, an original way to bring them together. the conflict. got to have a conflict that keeps them apart. like they cannot be because because ... she is engaged! and you need something that draws them together, anyway, she is visiting him. because you remolds the house. and then how it ends and i have that and i am ready to write. >>alisyn: and now the book you just wrote. "best of me." >>guest: you will love it. >>alisyn: i do love it because it has a great premise, high school sweethearts who of court, time takes them in different directions and they reconnect 25 years later. what happens? >>guest: exactly, what happens, 25, well, 24 years, she has been married and, yet ... not the happiest of marriages and she, but she has three kids and she loves her family but she

is not really happy and you wonder how does i get here. and he has never stopped loving her. never dated again. she has all been "it." so, he is really good looking when they bump into each other and you have the big "what if," and that is what it is about. >>alisyn: when you do reconnect with your 25 year long lost sweetheart they are usually bald with a pot belly. >>guest: no dawson. he is tough. >>alisyn: in director becomes you do not use profanity. >>guest: as a general rule. it is not even pg-13, it is not about that, i write books about emotion or eke -- he vehicling sympathy. i don't need to describe it it is all about the build up toward that moment, which is what usually sit all about, at least

for most of my readers. >>alisyn: the book is "best of me." thank you for sharing your winning formula. better not miss it. >>clayton: occupy wall street protester taking grievance 40' up in the air. perched on this structure for three hours now.

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>> good morning, everyone, it's saturday. october 22nd, i'm alisyn camerota. the troops are coming home from iraq. president obama declaring the end of the iraq war in 2011. is the war over or more about a breakdown in negotiations? we'll explain. >> dave: and more tax dollars down the drain. ramps to nowhere literally. how one town spend big bucks to stall wheelchair ramps with no sidewalks. >> clayton: occupy wall street taking to the air. one refusing to get down off this giant metal structure until mayor bloomberg leaves office. >> dave: is he trying to do a handshake. >> a secret occupy wall street handshake. the three stooges. >> alisyn: is a negotiator going to be part of occupy

wall street. >> clayton: we'll find out as "fox & friends" continues right now. >> hi, this is lynda carter you're watching "fox & friends." ♪ >> who is that lindsay lohan? who is that? missed that. >> alisyn: and don't quiz us on the show during the show. >> dave: good morning everybody, thanks for joining us, dave, clayton and alisyn. we're starting with what is happening in iraq. the troops, it seems, will be home for the holidays, but it's not without controversy. >> clayton: absolutely, because of what has unfolded over the past few years, this all started with president bush, a policy sort of snowballed from 2008, the shoe throwing incident. and a timetable for 2011. even the bush administration and obama administration thought there would be a back and forth negotiation to go et 14, 15,000 troops there for special services, that is to train iraqis for air

surveillance, security and other things they're not up to speed. >> alisyn: there were lots of negotiations between the u.s. and iraq as recently as august, at about 5,000 troops were supposed to be left in place to make sure that the gains that we've seen in iraq were not just frittered away and that iran, which had its eye on iraq didn't make inroads in. but something happened between august and now, and negotiators say that alma -- maliki said they would be subject to iraqi law. that's not how it works when u.s. troops are left in other countries and that's the sticking point and the president can put a good spin on this, and pulling troops out. in fact, it was a break down of negotiations. >> dave: earlier on we had lieutenant peters, one of those critics. >> president obama deserves

poents for-- points for growing in the job. but this is the big one, the super bowl. iraq really matters, but obama made a campaign promise and the leftists had a blind spot about the promise because it was bush's war and therefore a bad war. iraq matters, afghanistan, but iraq, location location location. >> dave: interesting, obama was anti-war campaigner in '08 and now the guy instead of locking people up and trying them, sends drones and kills, you know, bin laden awlaki and now he killed gaddafi, does he please the base that much here? >> i think so. >> dave: does he? with the campaign promise. >> clayton: i'm surprised there's this much reaction from individuals. why are they surprised he campaigned on this and won in a landslide victory in the election. i mean, this is something he made, he wanted to focus on afghanistan, and he wanted us

out of iraq. why the surprise? >> things have changed back then. back then we didn't know that iran would try to use iraq. we didn't know that iran was going to have the power it does and when you hear analysts say, military analysts and commanders, hope the gains we've made in the past eight years plus the money woof he a spent and lives lost, we hope that isn't in vain. >> dave: that's the question because he fulfilled a campaign promise, but in a year from now if we lose the gains that bachmann, perry and romney pointed out. >> clayton: a twitter idea, we want the numbers up on the weekend twitter account. it's ff weekend and go there and sign up. that's all you have to do. >> alisyn: a great idea. >> dave: retweet it. spread it around. >> alisyn: let's get to the headlines. a fox news alert. we have been showing you the protester who has scaled a 40-foot high steel exhibit in

man's zucotti park. he's dylan, reportedly from canada, up on the steel beam more than three hours and says he's not going to eat, drink or come down until the mayor of new york city, michael bloomberg steps down. well, he seems to be making progress with the negotiator, now to a developing story out of australia where an american was killed in an apparent shark attack overnight. the victim's identity, a 32-year-old man diving by himself in little armstrong bay, a popular tourist spot. low that will authorities to kill the shark and prevent further attack. herman cain continues to roll along and edging out mitt romney and newt gingrich in a straw poll. nearly 31%, romney 29%, gingrich 21%, rick perry finished all the way in fifth there.

in an effort to make ambler, pennsylvania, more handicap accessible, they decided to build new wheelchair ramps on the streets and that makes sense, the problem is they don't connect with the sidewalks. residents are frustrated the money was used that way. >> sons of other things i think we can spend tax dollars on other than handicap spots that goes nowhere into the grass. >> alisyn: the town argued that they're necessary to meet new federal code regardless whether the sidewalks are attached. so, you're supposed to wheel your wheelchair in the street? >> it looks like a mystery, the random driveways to nowhere that end. where do they go, where do they lead? now. >> alisyn: do, do, do, do ♪ >> with the answer to that and other questions, here is maria molina. >> i can't answer your ramp question and i don't understand the story on the

wheelchair ramp thing, temperatures are chilly across the eastern half of the country. 49 in new york city, a 42 in cleveland and warming up to 40 degrees now in chicago earlier this morning we were in the 30's out there and the southeast, with the some of the cool temperatures in florida, 59 for the current temperature and tampa, chilly for floridians and we have a number of frost advisories from the northeast, south of the great lakes and into parts of the southeast, so if you live in atlanta, georgia, some of you could be waking up to frost on your cars as we head into early sunday morning and isolated spots early this morning. so that's something definitely to keep an eye on and give yourself extra time if you're headed out early in the morning. as far as rain across the country. it's definitely going to be a very quiet weekend. we do have one storm system in the rockies, but the heavier rain right now is concentrated across parts of the pacific northwest, if you live in seattle. grab the umbrella and we have that storm across the plains that's bringing in a few isolated showers later today and could fire up stronger storms across oklahoma and

northern texas. in the northeast, guys, pretty quiet. a few isolated showers, but those will be out by sunday so, nice weather looking for us. >> alisyn: fantastic. sounds good, thanks, maria. >> dave: thank you, maria. have you driven an fisker lately? you might be surprised a car company called fisker has received a half billion dollars. none of those cars have been built in the united states, have, however, been built in finland. that's the controversial part of this. this much like slen solyndra has been given a loan guarantee and you would hope it would be built in the united states. the problem is, the company says it couldn't find an auto manufacturing plant that would make the car in the united states. they looked, but only in finland could they find one that was equipped with the proper stuff to make the cars. >> clayton: yeah, debuted back in 2008 and they have to build

about 15,000 cars, they'll all be built in finland and the bottom line, no one is talking about this side of it. and looking only to create about 500 jobs. so 520 million dollars equates to 500 jobs. >> alisyn: i hadn't read that. i thought one of the good news nuggets. >> but it's overseas 500 jobs. >> alisyn: here at home the company says, department of energy had to come out to explain themselves after this hit the news, they say they're going to open a shuttered general motors plants in delaware one that has been closed and reopen it and five people laid off and put them back to work to the tune of 2500 workers. that i think is-- >> joe biden promised thousands of american manufacturing jobs, zero created. and compared to solyndra, compare fisker to ford, that's what governor huckabee is doing. >> 529 reasons for americans to be ticked offment it cost $97,000, it's supposed to be a

green car, but only goes 32 meals before the turbocharged motor kicks in off the electric which means by the time you average it all in, it gets 19 miles to a gallon which, by the way, is less miles per gallon than a ford explorer s.u.v. you could buy three explorers for the cost of a karma, and you still have better gas mileage and less impact on the environment. >> clayton: and a lot of the parts they get are farmed out and they pay, for instance, gm a few dollars for every door handle and gm makes door handles to put on the car and bizarre thing. his point about ford, certainly, yeah, a better fuel economy from your ford car, ford s.u.v. than from this car. >> alisyn: that part is crazy. >> dave: a half a billion dollars you have to have strings attached like american jobs, that's important. >> alisyn: we've learned that. let's talk about halloween, perhaps you're getting ready to make costumes for your kids this year. well, public schools across the country are starting to cancel halloween celebrations

for a variety of reasons and some say they're too disruptive. one school in portland, oregon say this would make kidsings immigrant kids feel uncomfortable because we're forcing american traditions on th them. you can read it, clayton, your best dramatic voices. >> clayton: this is the principle writing for many reasons the celebration of halloween can lead to student exclusion, there are social, financial and cultural differences among our families that we must expect. they say they like to celebrate the spirit of of equity at the school. >> dave: in virginia, next for halloween we'll be celebrating carrot sticks and celery, tsa will check bags at the corner. >> school is for education and plenty of time afterwards for costumes and trick-or-treat. come on, we used to dress up in schools. >> alisyn: some schools make a point that it is disruptive of

your class, of math. >> clayton: that's what they say about recess. we got rid of recess. >> dave: keep the tweets coming, folks at ff weekend on twitter friends@foxnews.com. >> clayton: i like my jack lantern, don't go away. >> dave: coming up next, the disappearance in baby lisa, a cadaver dog picked up the scent of death on the parent' bedroom floor. does the mother know more than she's telling authorities. judge jeanine next. >> stunning details in a biography for steve jobs, why he told president obama he's headed for a one-term presidency and late night phone calls from president clinton. what were those two discussing? ♪ [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up!

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>> there are new developments in the missing girl lisa irwin. learned that a cadaver dog picked up the scent of death inside the bathroom of the baby's parents. >> clayton: police obtained a search warrant for a search and confiscated blankets, a clothes and other items. >> alisyn:. >> dave: joining us is jeanine pirro, and numerous witnesses report a man in a t-shirt carried a naked baby around 4 a.m. what can you tell us? >> it's been a bombshell week related to this case. and i heard from my sources execution of the warrant was done and return was filed. although there was an effort to seal that particular search warrant and affidavit

supporting it, the judge denied that. what do we know? we know that a cadaver dog has hit in the bedroom of the baby's mother on the floor. so, law enforcement believes that the baby, i think, at this point, is not alive and we've got an individual at or about the time is significant seeing a man carrying a baby with a diaper. why is that significant? it's significant because baby lisa's mother tells me that the baby had on purple shorts and animal t-shirt. now, when they executed the warrant they took out purple shorts and an animal t-shirt. now, explains, why that baby is being seen or some baby is seen with just diapers on. so, that's why the police have been playing it very close to the vest. they believe that there was soil that was tilled recently near the house in a garden. on my show tonight, we've got pictures from my trip there yesterday of that area, of the trash area, where there was a fire that morning, all, you

know, suspicious. we're going to have joe tackpina the attorney and ask him. joe stanton, in light of what the police said. a search warrant signed by a judge probable cause, indicating their reasons wanting to go into the house and for more an in depth search and now we understand why. >> clayton: we had dr. bodden on the show earlier this week and he put forth an interesting theory what may have happened to the baby. take a listen. >> i think that when megyn kelly got the information from the mother that she had been drinking, was drunk, had passed out, it falls into a typical category of moms or parents sleeping on babies while impaired by drink or drugs. one question, she said she missed is the one where lisa is, i would suspect, that if she inadvertently slepten 0 the ba

the-- slept on the baby and she knows where the baby is. >> and they want to take the baby out quickly, would death be that apparent. >> absolutely, the dogs are well trained. the training of cadaver dogs are specific and why we're able to talk about this in courts of law. experts come in and say my canine is trained and can attest to the fact there was a cadaver dog. let me address the doctor's point and he'll be on my show tonight, too. the time line, jeremy leaving his job, getting home and when the 911 call was made. whether she, she admittedly was drunk and on pills which apparently exacerbate the impact of the alcohol, whether there was a shaken baby, we don't know because there's talk that that medication with alcohol makes you irritable. >> what do you think happened? >> what i believe happened, i don't know enough about it yet, none of us do, is that the police believe and a judge signed that warrant, that

there was a dead body in that, and soil tilled and think the baby died in that house and where is the baby? it's all about evidence. not what about anybody theorizes, but what is very, very uncanny that someone is seen with a baby with just a diaper on. >> we'll be tuning in for more, justice jeanine pirro. judge, thank you so much. >> this is a fascinating story, thank you, judge. >> still ahead, an expensive phone call to his wife. >> and troy pal malu stand for a $10,000 fine and for calling on the sidelines. >> and back in the day, a former pan am flight attendant

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>> welcome back. a flight back to a better time. pan am takes viewers back to the glory days of the 1960's. >> she has a thing about her, well, maybe she should. >> a new beginning-- >> how much truth is in this new tv show. >> joining us is a former pan

am flight attendant, holly worked for 15 years and helped craft the show, hi, holly. >> good morning. >> alisyn: so that was the glory days of flying. it seemed like it's hard to imagine now, but a glamorous career. was it? >> absolutely glamorous. it was -- i've never been around so many elegant, sophisticated, intellectual liqueur yus people. it was absolutely astounding and hard to conceive of considering how today's world is with travel. >> dave: with shows like "the playboy club" i think it's called, is this one different? is it about actually the empowerment of women that period not just the glamour of the skies? >> that's the whole point and this, the way the pan am show is evolving, it's a process, but we wanted to bring the message to young people and young women in particular about the world is a resource

to be explored for them and for all of us, we were not in an era where there were so many options and pan am gave us an opportunity to go out and explore, see different ways of living, and understand different cultural perspectives and it really, we started out curious and then as we understood that sometimes life is stranger than fiction, we drew deeper and deeper into it and it became an adventure that we were extremely privileged to experience. >> alisyn: you said you worked for pan am in 1970 and as you pointed out there weren't a lot of women necessarily working outside of the home back then. did you experience harassment and discrimination at that time? >> do you mean on the job. >> alisyn: yeah, on the job. >> you know, there was an atmosphere of respect and of course, there always the m

malcreants out there and because people dressed up and considered travel it be a privilege, there was a different atmosphere on the airplane. and we were treated with respect and if we weren't, there were consequences. >> dave: so you talk about an atmosphere of respect. you talk about attire, people dressed up. what's the biggest difference in flying today. [laughter] >> i don't know what the similarities would be, actually, except for hopefully you end up wherever you want to go. but, no, it was-- your adventure started the minute you stepped out the front door and on board, you know, because the flights, pan am was all international at that point, so we had long flights and when you're flying for many, many hours, say over the pacific, or long, long trips, you have time to get to know the passengers, we had

lounges we would sit and talk for a long time with our passengers and with one another and when you're flying in the dead of night over the pacific and if you want you can go sit in the cockpit and talk with the pilot as you're flying over the pacific or atlanta or down in the southern hemisphere, it would be a really ethereal experience. >> alisyn: how times have changed. really, almost impossible to conceive of now. holly, thanks so much for coming in with your personal experience. it does sound great. >> you're welcome. >> dave: check out the show on abc. up next on the rundown, steve jobs calling president obama or warning him he could be a one-term president and stunning details in the biography about steve jobs and why did the late apple co-founder make that prediction. >> alisyn: and the women ditching mommy duty for wall street and we ask for your thoughts. and we have a lot of thoughts.

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♪ >> welcome back to "fox & friend friends". >> clayton: i'm ready to go, i was asleep the last segment. the number one book is the biography of steve jobs, number one on amazon and i-books and not even out until this week, but incredible

details from the author, walter isaacson, he's on an interview with 60 minutes. a lot about the government and bill clinton and specifically president obama, a meeting he had with him. >> alisyn: yeah, this book has all sorts of juicy details and the meeting with steve jobs apparently told president obama that he was going to be a one-term president if he didn't change some things. isaacson says this, this is what steve jobs said. he's headed for a one-term presidency and the president was smart and explaining to us, reasons why things can't get done, it infuriates me. and steve jobs apparently also thought that the president was not business friendly enough and a plan to do an advertising campaign, a morning in america like president reagan and offered to write it and craft it. he felt he wasn't getting enough respect from the folks in the obama administration, david axlerod, why he didn't go forward with it and interesting stuff, conversations between steve

jobs and former president bill clinton. why were they talking, clayton? >> it was at the height of the monica lewinsky scandal, and they were friends of course for a number of years and he had called him late night one night. president clinton called steve jobs asking his advice how he should handle the scandal. steve jobs basically said you need to be truthful and tell the american people what happened. >> dave: steve jobs not really embroiled in much scandal over the years and you would call him, scandal for-- >> and he is one of those guys, too, that has-- tries to be transparent with the company, but he's very, very private, private person. >> alisyn: right. so he also offered his house to the clintons when chelsea was going to stanford and a get away, but what he said, quote, to president clinton was, i don't know if you did it, in relation to monica lewinsky, but if so, you've got to tell the country. >> clayton: can i say-- >> ended up not happening. >> clayton: right, in fact.

>> dave: didn't follow. >> clayton: what i find fascinating, something you mentioned about the excuses, when you read that quote, he couldn't stand when he was talking to president obama, reasons why it couldn't happen. and steve jobs notoriously at apple, never takes no for an answer. the iphone, first iphone was about to ship and literally a few weeks before it was about to ship and came with a plastic screen and he said, it's not going to happen. no one ever put glass on a phone before and he said i can't ship it like this, it's garbage, we need to do glass and went back to square one, a few weeks before it was set to ship. doesn't take no for answer. >> alisyn: i thank him. i never could use it as a mirror. >> dave: my phone is her mirror. >> clayton: my ipad. >> dave: fascinating book out this week. meanwhile, a mom from florida abandoning her family to occupy wall street. she's a mother of four children, the youngest is age seven. left behind her banker husband, came here to new york and is now taking part in these occupy wall street protests and says, she has no

plans to leave. >> alisyn: yeah, so she talked about leaving her kids and said that basically there are friends who can step in and pinch hit for her, listen. >> i have friends that, like i said sort of be on facebook and asking them to support me so that i could be here and they stepped up and a lot of them said, yeah, i'll help you, just let me know what i can do and i'm planning on staying until the end, whatever that may be. i know that my kids are okay. and i know that this is where i need to be right now and support of them. >> she likened what she's doing at occupy wall street as serving in the military. a lot of you are angry about that comparison this morning and e-mailing us, let us know what you think about. we are on twitter at ff weekend on twitter. >> alisyn: in the meantime, to your headlines. >> can you it dig them out? >> they're buried. i have them right now.

we have breaking news for you because the saudi crown prince, aziz has died after nearly an eight year battle with colon cancer. for more let's go to jerusalem. tell us more rina. >> hi, ali, he was expected to be the next king of saudi arabia. he died at new york presbyterian hospital and his body is expected to be out at jfk. he was the crown prince for several decades and only a few years younger than the current king, king abdullah. will who will replace him. a prince nia, a controversial figure, believes that jews were behind the 9/11 attack and against reforms for women. which the late prince supported. usually the king declares who it will be. so many are against nia's

appointment they might have an allegiance counsel made up of male relatives of the king who will determine who the next king might be, but no word exactly yet on who that successor will be. we're hearing that the funeral will take place in riyadh on tuesday. the crown prince is survived by multiple wives and 32 children. ali. >> alisyn: rina ninen, thank you so much. >> dave: yes, that was 32. >> clayton: you have a lot of catching up to do. how many do you have. >> alisyn: three at last count. thank you. now to the rest of the headlines, a fox news alert. the occupy wall street protester who scaled a statue has finally come down and the man identified as dylan, from canada. he was up there more than three hours and said he would not come down until the mayor of new york city resigned and strangely, that did not happen, but the man did come down just a few moments ago and taken to a local hospital for observation. a washington state senator is found dead and authorities are not sure how this happened.

41-year-old scott white's body was discovered yesterday this his hotel room. the democrat served as majority whip in the legislature, and his district covered the northern part of the state. and authorities say, foul play had been ruled out, but an autopsy is planned. he leaves behind a wife and two children. a stunning development nearly three years after a deadly plane crash near buffalo. a lawyer for the victim's families now saying he can prove the pilot was not qualified to fly that type of plane. a group of internal e-mails showed that marvin renslow failed his training course, but officials promoted him anyway. the crash came weeks later. renslow and 48 others were killed. tell us about the sports story. >> dave: usually we get in trouble for not calling our wives, not the steelers

polamalu. he called his wife on the sidelines during the game. he suffered a mild concussion during the game and calling his wife to assure her he was okay. >> alisyn: that's beautiful. >> dave: isn't it great? the nfl of course has a policy against using cell phones in the bench area during a game. and he was calling his wife to tell her she's okay. the nfl has these rules sometimes and they just do not bend. >> alisyn: i can't imagine how many fines you would accrue for calling your wife during the show. >> dave: yes. >> alisyn: you're in constant contact. clayton? >> honey, i'm okay. it's been a long-- >> interrupting his-- >> it's been a long haul. >> dave: he's fine. how much can we fine him? $20,000. >> alisyn: pay up. >> dave: let's check with maria molina, she's okay and she's outside with the weather, hey, maria. >> hey, i'm okay and it's chilly in new york city and we want to talk about that and the weather across the nation. right now the upper 40's in new york city and we're going to be warming up a little bit.

high temperature only at 59, expected in new york city, headed westbound, cleveland, also a cool day with the high temperature at only 55. now in texas it's going to be warm, so while it's cool across the eastern half the country, texas warm, 96 further off to the west in phoenix, arizona. as far as any precipitation, we're not going to see a whole lot of that today, it's a generally quiet day across the country and generally dry across the northeast with a few isolated spots, interior portions could get a shower or two and bringing showers early this morning in nebraska and later today could fire up strong to severe storms, isolated though across parts of the oklahoma and northern texas where we actually do need some rain so it's somewhat good news. and to the pacific northwest, heavy pockets of rain this morning, seattle, grab the umbrella as you head out the door and slow go this morning and basically throughout the day today and tomorrow, if you're doing any driving along interstate 5. guys.

>> alisyn: thank you so much, maria. i figured out what i'm going to be for halloween? troy polamalu? wouldn't that be fantastic? we're going to take suggestions what we should be for halloween. >> dave: keep them nice, please. >> alisyn: and at our twitter account. >> dave: the president has been drumming up support for the jobs bill until it was rejected by the senate. next, we meet a small business owner who says he knows why it failed and he voted for the president. . >> clayton: need a wingman to hit the town with? how about granny? this grandma, and granddaughter, tag team, taking dating to a whole new level. >> alisyn: they are fantastic. wait until you hear their's. that is the end... of carousel one. ...of carousel one. there's carousel two! all right! [ male announcer ] some parties need a bowl of queso. made from creamy velveeta and zesty rotel tomatoes and green chiles. it makes any get-together better.

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explanation as to why they don't deserve those jobs. every american deserves an explanation as to why republicans refuse to step up to the plate. >> dave: our next guest, however, says that exmra-- he has that explanation for the president, stanley green is a small business owner, he says the president's plan is just a bandaid and in the a real solution for the struggling economy. and stanley also voted for the president in 2008, but now, you tend to support herman cain. tell me about what you think about that statement first from the president? >> with he will, i think it -- it's unfortunate. i believe we're playing politics here and i think we need sustainable solutions not short-term fixes. we don't want people to get hired and only to be laid off nine months from now. >> dave: yeah, we're talking about a year of employment, essentially. >> we're talking more of the same, but i like herman cain's big bold ideas. very simple, very different and i think we need more of them.

i don't think herman cain has a lot on the big bold ideas so i think we need a vehicle that will vet these ideas and i propose a program, kind of american idol meets c-span. we're on a weekly basis you can pull together the smartest economists, elected officials and business leaders from various size businesses in a town hall setting and we have votes. we can put up the best ideas, coming from the public, coming from the elected officials, from the business leaders, and then let the american people call an 800 number or text for the best ideas. just like american idols where the best singers are still sitting in the viewing rooms in front of their television sets, the best ideas are at home and we need to get them out. >> clayton: you talk about confidence, that's a big part of the program and the idea that the big businesses don't have the confidence to here because they're worried in five, six months, things are going to he think cha.

what is the best solution to give confidence to businesses? is it to get government out of the way? >> i think with this idea, having the government sit back and listen to the american people. get out of the way and listen to the american people, to the best business minds and let them tell us what will give the business community confidence. everyone is speculating as to what's going to work, but we haven't pulled, and the american people haven't seen the best ideas yet. so, this idea, for a weekly program, a town hall meeting so to speak, i think, would give us some sense of what could work. we need big, bold ideas, not more of the same. >> and herman cain could host that show and this 447 billion dollars jobs panel broken up into businesses. would that be enough to get the biusiness economy and started or not? >> we're not sure and that's the problem. >> it's not sure, is it worth spending half a trillion dollars? >> well, i think we need to get more ideas.

because, i don't think the idea that have been put forth at this point has resonated with the american people. >> you know, the president's argument, his statement was referring to the firefighters and the first responders whom he believes won't have enough job and funding and we need to explain to the american people while they will be out of a job. is that fair? >> well, i think if we can be assured that those jobs will be permanent jobs and that the economy would grow and sustain all of the jobs that we expect to have, then, then i think we-- we'll be on the right track. by the way, going back to herman cain, i believe i can host that, but i still believe we need to do more bold moves, and i think, getting the american people involved will be a good move for us. >> clayton: a lot of people agree with you. stanley green, small business owner and president and ceo of power thinking corporation, thank you for joining us this morning. >> dave: we're taking on the

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>> navigating the singles scene is tough of course, it can be easier with a wingman. >> yeah, caly and her granny gail, both single and exploring the world of online dating. and sharing their jurp i, on the blog, granny is my wingman. nice to see you. >> good to see you. >> clayton: how did this start?

>> well, we're both single and i suggested to granny because she's been funny and a source of inspiration and amusement get online and online date and she said you're single, you should be online dating, after bully willing, we're doing it together. >> alisyn: granny, what did you think, this is a brave new world, what did you make of this the experiment. >> i didn't get very involved in the thought to begin with, i didn't think it was going to go anywhere with me at all. and she would be the one, and i, whatever she wanted from me, i was willing to do. >> alisyn: and yet, it has gone places with you. you have also gone on dates. >> indeed, i have. [laughter] >> so you would encourage others to do this as well. >> i would encourage people to try it and see if they like it. >> alisyn: now, on your blog, you're sort of cataloging this. if i would go on a date with you, would i wear hey, it's written up on the blog later. >> yeah. >> i've gotten caught, but

with google and everything now, you need a couple of key words. >> clayton: what are you looking for on the dating sites? >> i'm looking for someone honest, i've had a couple of people i went out with this lawyer who said on his thing, i love to travel, i'm 6 foot 2 and this, that and the other thing aen we went out and he hadn't traveled in years, he was super boring, 5-10 maybe that, aen i was like. >> alisyn: and some of the funny things on the blog, your grandma's reactions and remarks. >> right. >> alisyn: what are funny things for your journey. >> the lawyer for one was kind of a jerk and we agreed on that in the beginning and next day she called me back, you know, he's a lawyer maybe you can reconsider it, a jewish grandmother the fact they're a lawyer. >> clayton: and granny, things standing out to you online scanning profiles, what pops out to you, that's a hot one? i'm going to call him up. >> i don't think i ever say that. [laughter] e. >> clayton: i say, looks like a nice man. he's conveniently nearby, which is a very important thing, when you're a senior.

nobody wants to drive an hour. >> alisyn: right. >> but he's conveniently nearby and that's a good they think for him and i will meet him somewhere that's a good place to meet and. >> genuine stuff, rather than show up-- >> you're much more straight forward and honest when you're older. there's very few games being played. there's no reason to play them. >> alisyn: that's a nice silver lining and geographical availability over hotness. >> i always say. stick around guys, more "fox & friends" in two minutes and online, too. [ male announcer ] drinking a smoothie with no vegetable nutrition? ♪ ♪ [ gong ] strawberry banana! [ male announcer ] for a smoothie with real fruit plus veggie nutrition new v8 v-fusion smoothie.

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