eric maybe you will come on. >> we'll do that.ç everybody have a good weekend. closed captioning by closed captioning services,inc libya's transitional government declares the country liberated we'll talk to the ranking democrat on the house foreign affairs committee about what comes next.ç after getting tripped up on the abortion issue herman cain tries to shore up his position in iowa. will it work? taxing proposal is catching 9-9-9 tax plan gave him a big boost in the polls now perry says his tax plan is flatter and fairer. we'll talk to the original flat tax candidate, steve forbes. jack daniels couldç be getting soaked as the whiskey maker may pay a bigger bar tab. i'm shannon bream.

the news starts now. first to libya. the transitional government declaring after an eight month civil war that toppled gadhafi. you are looking at live pictures of the celb@ation are they being overshadowed by calls for an investigation into the circumstances of gadhafi's death? >> reporter: massive celebrations now in the eastern city of benghazi after the official announcement by the head of the national transition council that the whole of the country has now been liberated. he called for$énity and reconciliation after eight months of a bloody civil war, which may have claimed the lives of perhaps 30,000 people. there's been celebrations here in the capital tripoli. perhaps more muted, because jalil did ask that there be no celebratory gunfire because he said it was injuring civilians and was of course a waste of ammunition.

alsoç, gadhafi's body remains in the city of misrata, after he was captured and then died on thursday. there's been a lot of controversy over what has happened. but the government has said they were planning to secretly bury him. gadhafi's family has urged that the body be given over to them. but at the moment it remains in that cold stormç facility in misrata, with people still cuing to see it. as the rest of country is celebrating the end of his rule. >> shannon: thank you david for the update. nato may end its military involvement in libya. the ranking member of the house foreign affairs committee saidç the u.s. is committed to helping the libyan people take steps toward democracy. sir, thank you for your time today. >> thanks for having me. >> shannon: as nato officially

begins to wind down what should to help the people move forward? >> first i think we should realize that this is a great victory. theç nato-led operation stopped a humanitarian catastrophe. it gave the libyan people a chance to depose a tyrannical dictator. and a man who ordered the deaths of hundreds of americans in the pan am 103 and german discotheque terrorist attacks. we have to stay engaged now.ç we have a number of tasks. we have things we have to be concerned about. the break down into tribal rivalries. revengeyñx motivation not taking hold. reestablishment of effective economy and infrastructure for libya. and concern about islamist strongholdç in a new government. but, to me the future looks

much better than it did unmuammar gadhafi. >> what toes the situation mean for leaders in syria and -- what does the situation mean for leaders in syria and yemen? >> well, the story of what happened in libya is instructive here. an arab consensusç that we helped bill against gadhafi was an essential -- build against gadhafi was an essential component, bringing on the international community, sharing the burden with countries who had direct interests in this. to the extent we can replicate that kind of a process in syria, i think the syrian people will have a much better chance of shaping their own destiny and getting rid of assad.ç >> i want to ask about another development this week. the president's announcement that all of our troops will be out of iraq by the end of the year. do you think the iraqi forces, law enforcement, military there are ready to manage their own country? how would you feel about a

nonmilitary presence say cia security contractors or others staying on? >> well, first of all,ç let's put it in a perspective. george bush, not barack obama signed a status of force as agreement where we committed to remove our troops by the end of 2011. president obama ran on that issue and reaffirmed that position in february of0b!mhh . this not a surprise. we do have interests in continuing securityç ties and training functions with the iraqis. significant diplomatic presence. forces, probably private contractors to protect our diplomatic missions and our diplomats and aide workers who are helping to in the process ofç rebuilding iraq. guarantees that the american

troops are home by the holidays. and that iraq now has the primary responsibility for shaping its own destiny. very important here, there are a number of issues that iraqi government still hasn't come to terms with. they still don't have a defense minister or interiorç minister. they still don't have an oil revenue sharing law. they still haven't worked out problems of kirkuk. i believe in the context of iraq, primarily responsible for its security and destiny, they can come to grips with dealing with these difficult political issues. >> shannon: congressman berman, thank you for your time. >> shannon: presidential candidate herman cain tried to clear up his position on abortion as he looked for support from conservative christian voters. his rivals are not giving him

a pass. >> reporter: in iowa, abortion isç a huge issue with the conservative base. because of confusion about whether or not he's pro-life or pro-choice, herman cain used last night's dinner in des moines to make clear he does not support abortion, ever. >> they got it right, when they said endowed by their cleator. not theç president. not congress. endowed by their creator. with certain,mp&rqnable rights. that among these are life from conception, no abortions, no exceptions. [ applause ] >> reporter: cain's comments different than his commentsç on cnn last week where he said incest and rape victims should be able to choose to get abortions. perry and sanatorium see it as

a flip-flop and they are hitting him hard for i. >> it is a liberal kinard to say impersonally pro-life but government should stay out of that decision. if that isç your view, you are not pro-life. you are pro having your cake and eating it too. >> you can be pro-life and say people have a choice to do whatever they want. >> reporter: cain still the leader in iowa according to a poll. he has 37%. perry 6. santorum 3. bachmann hasç 4%. she told chris wallace what she thinks makes up the ideal candidate in iowa. >> here in iowa people want to make sure our nominee is 100% pro-life. 100% standing for marriage between a man and woman. >> reporter: lots of action in iowa. in new hampshire where two bachmann staffers quit without notice this week.

this morning weç heard governor john sununu is going to endorse mitt romney. >> shannon: we'll be watching, thanks peter. after stirring up con nevada has made a decision about its caucuses. they decided to move their date to february 4th suggested by the rnc to aíohd the possibility of a december primary new hampshire. several early primary states decided to move up -- >> rick again, i'm speak, i'm speaking, i'm speaking. >> wow, contentious tuesday night. now it appears things are cooling a little bit.ç when romney was pressed yesterday on whether perry has the intelligence to be president? he said yes. >> i believe every single person on the stage in that last debate would do a

better than president obama. if rick perry i would be voting for him. i of course feel he's qualified as i do the others on the stage. >> shannon: do youç agree mitt romney that any of the gop candidates would do a better job than president obama? we want to hear from you. we'll read some of your responses later in the show. breaking news out of turkey. the country rattled by a massive 7.2 earthquake it collapsed 45 buildings. the size moll centerç estimates -- the 50 people have reportedly been taken to the hospital that situation changing by the minute. we'll keep you updated. 9-9-9 means jobs, jobs, jobs. that's why they are attacking this.ç >> rick perry hoping to pick

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shark spotted off the coast of western australia on the heels of two fatal shark attacks earlier this month. authorities searchingç for the 10 foot long great white believed to have killed an american and possibly an australian swimmer. crust set bait in hopes of catching the shark but had to re them in fear it would attract more -- remove them in fear with it would attract more sharks. this tuesday gopç presidential hopeful rick perry will roll out the second part of his economic plan. it will focus on a tax that will be flatter and fairer than herman cain's 9-9-9 plan. steve forbes is a big supporter of the flat tax idea and has run for president himself on that idea. didn't work for him, so why will it work for mr. perry?ç

great to see you today. tell us why there is magic in this idea that you think voters will like this year? >> i think you saw it in reaction to what herman cain put out there even with the sales tax people love the idea of the simplicity of this horrific tax code. state dead weight on the economy. i think what perry will un will be exciting.ç generous exemptions for adults and children. make it worthwhile to invest in america again. simplifying the tax code, lowering the corporate tax rate we have the second highest in the developed world. we'll now have one of the best. it is win-win all around. >> it sounds positive to folks who hate the tax code overall. the idea has been floated before.ç candidates haven't been successful. why did you think the american people are ready this time around? maybe they've learned more about the idea and green accustomed to it? why -- and grown accustomed to

it? >> the tax code is mormon and the economy remains -- is more monstrous and the economy é&ast 25 years 14,000 changes. and people can't comprehend it nor do they want this thing any longer. a firm leadership which is what rick perry will provide which is why i'm endorsing him is going to be a winning issue people hunger for it. you saw it with cain's plan even with the sales tax part. perry doesç not have the sales tax which i think if going to make the plan for appealing. >> one of the nine's in the plan was a 9% federal or national sales tax. >> that the primary difference between the perry and cain plan? >> that's a huge difference. gets you into problems of regressivey. the average sales tax in this countryç is -- 8, 9%, adding 9%

is a hard sell. i think perry will do well with it when he unveils it tuesday. >> if i remember correctly yourç percentage point you had for your flat tax proposal was 17%. is that in line with what the perry campaign will do? do they have another number in mind? >> they have another number in mind but it is a very low number. his exemptions for adults and kids higher than what i proposed. he has good features in there. i mentioned the corporateç tax. no taxes on social security payments and other positive things. i people are going to be excited about it. it has a huge incentive for savings which this tax code crushes. it is a capital, job creator, which is why i'm backing perry

for president, one of reasons. he had a good record in texas >> how do you respond to critics who say this is regressive. is there a minimum income level for the flat tax would kick in? >> yes, that's why you have those generous exemptions so you have to make a real sum of money before the tax kicks in. gog to pay more. middle income people are not going to pay more and they are goingç to save huge amounts of money. the tax foundation estimates by 2015, we are going to be spending 483 billion dollars come playing with this code, 300 billion from companies and 200 billion from individuals. you put something like the perry plan in place that is several hundred billionsñi in savings off the bat, that's huge! >> we'll watch for the roll-out tuesday.

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dictatorship it is liberation day for libya. peter doocy standing by with that and your other top story.ç >> reporter: after eight months of war libyans declared their freedom today: defense secretary panetta responding to the white house's decision to pull all u.s. troops out of iraq by year's end. panetta said iraq has developed effective force to deal with the change and the u.s.ç will always have a force in that area. >> 130 anti-wall street demonstrators were arrested in chicago early this morning, after refusing to obey police orders to move. a spokesman says arrests will not stop them from protesting. 47-year-old won fan favorite on survivor all-stars now wanuc to win as indiana governor as a tearian.

-- as a libertarian. those are the stop stories now i wonder if going to wear a skirt on the campaign trail like on survivor? >> reporter: will that help in indiana? >> he's a libertarian,ç let him be. he wants to wear a skirt of -- we'll keep everyone updated, thanks peter. what appears to be a stunning about face, hamid karzai says he would side with pakistan if that country ever got into a war with the u.s.. his remarks days after he touted his alliance with the u.s.. some see that statement as an overture to pakistan whose help he could use to bring stability to afghanistan. >> let's have an investigation. i fully support the united nations investigation. and i fully support the

council's own call for an independent investigation. >> that was secretary of state clinton on fox newsç sunday this morning talking a possible investigation into the death of libyan leader muammar gadhafi. today i÷j& sat down with chris wallace to talk about that interview and more. chris, several developments in the foreign affairs realm this week. had you a chance to talk with secretary clinton. >> absolutely, first about iraq and about criticism that the president is pulling o#viously a lot of people are happy he's pulling all troops out, particularly from the right criticism he's pulling them out. the pentagon was calling for 15,000 troops next year. the white house until a couple weeks ago was talking three five thousand trainers as a security force against sectarian violence or interference by iran going to end upç with zero. secretary clinton smartly said this was negotiated by

george w. bush in 2008 this is a sovereign government, they made their decision. we went in there to empower them. as you heard from my conversation with lindsey graham the republican senator of south carolina, he thinks it is a terrible mistake. as he said,ç one that could come back to haunt us. >> he thought this wasn't the only misstep by in administration when it comes to foreign affairs? >> no, he came loaded for bear on iraq, iran, the decision to pull out of afghanistan and the common point he made is that he doesn't think that any of these make foreign policy sense. they all make political sense. he saidç i think the foreign policy not being run out of the white house, it is being run out of obama reelection campaign headquarters chicago. >> you continued your conversation with those vying for the gop nomination. >> right. michelle bachmann, who is in a tough spot. in june, after she did well in the new hampshire debate she was at the top with romney.

first perry came in. now we've seenç the rise of herman cain she is in single digits. even in iowa, she has to either win or finish a very strong second in iowa or she will run out of money and support. she made a strong case and had an advantage today because cain had a bad week. cain flopped on the issue of choice on abortion. the iowaç republican voters are very socially conservative that going to hurt him there. he also suggested in an interview looking at the prisoner swap in israel that he would consider swapping one u.s. hostage for all the prisoners, terrorists, many of them in guantanamo bay. the question you have, i know people say they don't like professional poliéibians, i'm not sure a professional politician would have made those two gaffes. >> you have seen it a million times once that person shoots to the top of the polling the

scrutiny ramps up. >> catch of chris' interviews right after our show. 2:00 and 6:00 eastern on the fox news channel.ç following the death of muammar gadhafi libya's transitional council expects to whole parliamentary elections within eight months. how will the country maintain order and stability in the meantime? we are joined by judith miller. thank you for your time today. you are aware of just how hat it meant for libya. what do you think it means to the people there and how worried are you about the power vacuum that may exist now? >> i'm extremely worried about the power vacuum. as i wrote earlier for fox news the next 48 hours, the next weeker critical. can the transitional national councilç morph into this

transitional government? which going to have to hold the country together until elections can be health, a minimum of -- look, there is no way, most people who have known and watched libya, do not think they will have elections in eight months. but you have to be moving in that direction which means establishing law and order and confiscating the guns of the militias. nobodyç knows right now if anybody is going to be able to do that. >> shannon: secretary clinton mentioned that was one of her biggest worries going forward there are so many different phfls that fought here. they did have the goal of getting rid of gadhafi. they have different interests, territorial issues. how tough is it going to bring to bring them together inç rebuilding? >> to give you a sense what the scene is like in libya, there are 40 militias in benghazi. 120xfe in misrata. was

shown. there are numerous militias that say they are not going to give back their weapons. the issue s can the central larged armed force that responds to a central government? that must happen or mrs. clinton's concerns are going to be more than justified. >> shannon: what happens to those who were still loyal to gadhafi until the end? will there be trials? are they in harm's way? thereç are concerns, talking about an wrmáigation%ñy about how gadhafi was killed. you what happens to that group? >> another indicator whether or not law and order can be established. most say the killing of gadhafi was probably inevitable. nobody wanted him hanging around or giving interviews as saddam hussein did. they wanted him out of picture. now he is. butç, what about all of those people who worked for him?

what about the former oil minister who is now under house arrest in a neighboring country? what about the family of taff ? his daughter and another son are in -- are in algeria. is this government to take them back to put them on trial where there -- will there be more bloodshed, trials or aç focus on the future an orderly transition to an orderly and law an bying future? i think that's so much more -- law biding future? i think that is so much more important than taking revenge. in the past week we saw a lot of revenge killings against people loosely associated with the regime. but in a country this small, of only 4.5 million libyansç, and about six million if you included the foreigners, once this kind of revenge killing stars, it is very hard to stop. so -- starts, it is very hard to stop. that's another test for the government, an early and important one. >> judith miller, thank you

for your insight. it is condoleeza rice's turn.ç in her new book she strikes back at dick cheney. she recalls clashing repeatedly with the vice president over what to do with captured terror suspects. once she threatened to resign. rice details odd encounters with foreign leaders. no higher honor, due out next month. some stores have started preppingç for the holiday season. while you might dread looking at that long shopping list for family and friends an early start to the holidays can help a lot of job seekers find temporary relief. casey stegall has more. >> reporter: doesn't it feel like we just celebrates memorial day? where did the summer go? retailers say they are expecting to rakeç in big bucks this holiday season. holiday sales expected to grow nearly 3% this year as opposed

to last if that rings true it means consumers will shell out an estimated 466 billion dollars over the next couple of months. many of the biggest retailers bulking up its staff. macy's will hire the most looking toç add about 78,000 temporary workers to the payroll, which is 4% higher than last year. toys "r" us the world's largest toy company will hire roughly 40,000 extra as will kohl's, a 5% increase. >> the amount of hours a seasonal associate can work is a few hours a week up toç 20 hours. a typical job sun loading of a truck, processing -- >> reporter: while the world of retail is not growing as fast as some sectors of our economy, it is a slow but sure process. sales have been on the rise 15 months in a row according to

the national retail federation. the industry addedç 100,000 permanent jobs in the last year. >> it is important to keep in mind that just because you start off as a seasonal employee doesn't mean your job will end in january. if you do a great job, retailers who are continuing to add permanent jobs in our industry, might look at you as a candidate for something long term going forward. >> reporter: overall anç estimated half a million employees are expected to be hired just for the holiday season. that could certainly put a dent, help put a dent n the national unemployment rate of 9.1%. >> casey, thank you very much. charitable group run by college students says it can set women free fromç a life in human trafficking for less than $25. we talk to that group, next. [ male announcer ] this is coach parker...

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>> shannon: high unemployment numbers, growing national debt and bleak future outlook fueling protests. new polls show more people blameç washington than wall street. her here with us adam geller and gerard whitman. d.c. s 64% of the blame. 30% say it is about wall street. adam do you think those numbers are accurate? >> i do. i do think that it speaksç to the foolishness of the left and the obama administration sort of embracing the blame wall street type of thing. they are targeting the 30%. they are ignoring the vast majority of people who say the federal government deserves some of the blame here. >> shannon: bernard what do you think? thought it was higher. >> there's a lot of blame to go around if you look into the

details of the fall just over half say the federal government a great deal unhalf says wall street. another interesting fact about that poll is six times as many people say corporate ceos have hurt the economy rather than help. 53ç% to 9%. 86% say wall street has too much influence. 71% want to see those responsible prosecuted. corporate profit at record highs, no wonder they want to see multi-millionaires pay a few cents more to fun a jobs work. >> i think the point is nobody is saying that wall street deserves no blame what you are ignoring and the democrats are ignore something the amount of blame the federal government is getting. -- for get about republicans and independent who agree

strongly that the federal government deserves much of the blame, democrats are split only the occupy wallç street supporters, 26% of the entire sample by a slim majority thinks wall street is more to blame. what you are ignoring is the fact that even republicans are saying there needs to be some reform. there can be this incredible overhaul on wall street what is that going to do? hurt banks, leaning, business. and therefore, it is goingç to create even higher unemployment. there's a big problem here. do we need reform? of course. we also have to overhaul the federal government. >> let's look at other numbers. these come from an apgfk poll. obama's standing with the public is weakest on economy and tackling unemployment.ç 6 in 10 disapprove how he is handling that.

congress' approval rating stands at 16%. who in washington is going to pay more when it comes time to vote the president or congress equipment >> it is congress. specifically, it is the republicans in congress if you look at that fox news poll the only people that get moreç blame than corporate ceos are the republicans in congress. people believe that the republicans in congress have done more to hurt the economy than president obama, democrats and unions. no wonder they play politics with the debt ceiling. cost our country a stellar rating. create half on wall streets. stonewall the jobs bill that 2/3 of americans support. because ofç that it is not a surprise that the occupy wall street movement is double that in favor ache of the tea party. 59% of -- people who heard of occupy wall street agree its goals. republicans in congress are bent on one agenda item to end president obama's career. i'm sorry that is cogs the

american public confidence. >> he's going to end his own career.ç nobody knows what the occupy wall street goals are, including occupy wall street. president obama's job approval rate something 42%, which is terrible. >> -- we have to leave it there, thank you both. during his time in office congressman pete hoekstra met several times with muammar gadhafi.ç he is next. >> higher bar tab for one of the country's most famous whiskey. controversy swirling around jack daniels. [ male announcer ] what's the beat that moves your heart? how about the beat of a healthy heart?

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>> shannon: for those who enjoy . lynchburg, tennessee brings to mine one of the most popular whiskeys. some want jack daniel lynchburg, tennessee and jack daniels whiskey have been aged together for well over a century. a new ballot initiative is threatening that relationship. >> we are entitled to more money from the only industry in the county, the jack daniels

distillery. >> charles is leading the push for a $10 a barrel local tax on the famous, tennessee whiskey. that would bring another $4 million a year to a county strapped for cash to build new schools, roads and bridges, even a new sewage plant. he calls it a fee for using the image to build jack daniel cache. >> who is using who? jack daniel is the county's largest employer, provides a third of its tax base and nearly 60% of the price of a bottle is already in some form of tax. general manager tommy bean says enough is enough. >> we have been able to hire 25 or 30 people here in the last four or five months and if our costs go up $4 million or $5 million, you know, that is probably going to make aus little less competitive so we

might as grow as much. we think it could be a jobs killer. >> the distillery also brings in tourists, lots of them. nearly a quarter million every year. this weekend, a worldwide barbecue competition. is the polish team there. local businesses love it but to rogers it is annoying, just another reason jack daniels should pay up. >> we can't even move around. there is no place to park. traffic is backed up sometimes a mile or two up the road. >> jack daniel located here in the mid 1800s because of the famous cave spring, perfect water for making whiskey. most folks say the distillery would never leave no matter how high the tax was but the lynchburg mayor isn't so sure. >> everybody says no, they won't. you can't say no, they won't. there is a chance that they could do something like that, pack up and move. >> tommy beam says a move to a more tax friendly town wouldn't be his first choice. jack daniels likes it here and even revels in the idea of

producing top shelf whiskey in a county that has been dry since before prohibition. but he thinks the idea of taxing someone just because they are successful is fund and the million aunfair. >> you used to say what do i have to do to become like that. now, they look at them and say what can i do to get what they have got. >> there is support for the tax here. the council voted 8-5 to ask the tennessee general assembly for enabling legislation to put it on the ballot. charles hopes to get it on in time for the presidential election. some think that jack daniels has deep pockets and could pay up. others were wary of biting the hand that feeds them. >> shannon: liberation in libya. the nation celebrates a brand new beginning but there is still a lot of old business to sort out.

as u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton joins an investigation into the circumstances of muammar qaddafi's death. mounting calls for libya to pay back the u.s. for participation in the nato mission there. i'm shannon bream. hour number two of america's news headquarters live from the nation's capital starts right now. first we start off in iowa where presidential candidate herman cain tried to put to rest any doubts about his stance on abortion. peter is here with the latest from the campaign trail. >> reporter: herman cain is ten points ahead of romney in iowa according to a new poll about it university of iowa. he has to work extra hard right now to make sure that the state's conservative republican base is clear about his position on abortion. >> they got it right when they said endowed by their createors. not the president's. not congress.

endowed by their createor with certain unalienable rights. that among these are life, from conception, no abortions, no exceptions. >> there was some confusion this week because cain told cnn that abortions should be available to rape and incest victims but it should be a family decision and the government should back off. even though cain has tried to walk that back, his opponents are saying too late, the his wayman cannot talk which into being antiabortion now. >> it is a liberal kinnard to say i am personally prolife but government should stay out of that decision. if that is your view, you are not prolife. you are prohaving your cake and eating it, too. >> you can't be for -- be prolife and then say people have a choice to do whatever

they want. >> reporter: amid rumors that her campaign was in trouble after two new hampshire z staffers quit unexpectedly this week, congress woman michele bachmann weighed in on the issues and explained what she thinks the voters in iowa are really looking for. >> i can tell you here in iowa people want to make sure that our nominee is 100% prolife, 100% standing for marriage between a man and a woman and they certainly don't want to see terrorists like khalid shaikh muhammad released from guantanamo bay. that is nonnegotiatable. >> while she wasn't willing to say she is all in in iowa, her campaign is making clear they will be camping out there until the caucuses. shannon? >> shannon: , peter, thank you for the update. >> rick, again,. >> you had the floor. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> shannon: after tuesday's contentious debate it appears things may be cooling off

between gop candidates mitt romney and rick perry on the campaign trail. when romney was pressed whether perry has the "intelligence" to be president, he said, yes. >> i believe every single person on the stage in that last debate would do a better job than president obama and if rick perry were the nominee i would be voting for him. i, of course, feel he is stage.ied as i do the other >> shannon: after stirring up plenty of controversy nevada made a final decision about its caucuses. state republican ares decided yesterday to move their date to february 4. that date was suggested by the rnc in order to avoid the possibility of a december primary in new hampshire. several early primary states decided to move their dates up after florida jumped ahead to january 31. we want to ask you now, you heard the mit romney sound byte. do you agree that any of the gop candidates would do a better job than president obama? tweet your answers to us. we have got anton of responses

already. we look forward to reading those later in the hour. tweet us and let us know what you think. it is liberation day in libya. the transitional government is declaring the country free from home qaddafi. circumstances remai question -- questions remain about the circumstances of the dictator's death. >> shannon, the party is just getting going here. people are gathering in the square behind me. i saw a large convoy of armed pickup trucks heading that way a authority time ago. just over an hour ago it was announced that the whole of libya was liberated. the leader of the transitional council gave a speech there and made that announcement in front of tens of thousands of people. and during that speech he called for national unity and reconciliation and he also announced that they will be creating a new standing army

for libya. now, also at this time, of course, qaddafi's body remains in that freezer are in misrata which is about a two hour drive from here. still no decision what is going to happen to that body. people have been queuing again today to see it. it might sound mobrib but larges parts of misrata were destroyed during this war. ing you can perhaps understand the feelings of the people in this country. also, it is peaceful here but there are concerns that one of qaddafi's sons may be still on the loose. there is a suggestion he was captured or perhaps killed but also reports he may be heading to neighboring niger or algeria.

some of the familiar will of qaddafi have asked for his body to be given over to them for burial. the government said they want a secret burial so no shrine can be created for tim. back to you, shannon. >> thank you very much. president obama just released a statement on libya's liberation. he congratulates the people of libya and pledges to support transitional government and write is "now that the fighting in libya has reached an end the transitional national council must turn its attention to the political transition ahead. we look forward to working with the tnc and an empowered transitional government as they prepare for the country's first free and fair elections ." secretary of state hillary clinton is we'll be right backing a possible united nations probe into the circumstances of qaddafi's death. steve centanni has details. >> hi, shannon. as the people of libya declare liberation, the u.s. is supporting the idea of an investigation to find out how

muammar qaddafi died. the dictator who ruled libya with an iron fist for 42 years was killed thursday. it is unclear whether he was shot in a fire fight or executed. the united nations are calling for an investigation to find out. >> from my perspective i think such an investigation would be very important to establish accountability, rule of law and pave the way for the inclusive democratic future that the libyans tell me they want. >> secretary clinton appeared on "fox news sunday" and also talked about the future of iraq. the u.s. last week announced all combat straps would b troot of iraq by the end of the year. there was a possibility that they would stay but the u.s. and iraq reached no such agreement. secretary clinton praised the president's foreign policy on a variety of fronts. >> what we have seen from president obama over the last two and a half years and i think remarkably with the

events of the last six months is that his kind of smart leadership in a complex world is paying off. >> some notable republicans, however, you, were quick to disagree. >> i think in the last year he has made some very poor dangerous foreign policy decisions at the strategic level. >> and as for pulling all of the combat troops out of iraq at this stage of the game, senator john mccain has serious reservations. >> it is a serious mistake. i believe we could have negotiated an agreement and i'm very, very concerned about increased iranian influence in iraq. >> a few hundred u.s. troops will stay in iraq as military trainers. meantime all combat troops heading home in december. shannon? >> former congressman pete hoekstra met with qaddafi several times during his time in office. i want to start by asking your impression of qaddafi.

what was he really like? what was motivating him? he has been called a madman but was he sane? >> absolutely he was sane. he made a calculation in 2003 after he saw what happened to saddam hussein that he wasn't going to go down that same road. he reached out to the west, the west reciprocated. he gave his nuclear weapons program, turned that program over to the united states. he was very much, you know, a survivor. he modified his behavior to make sure that what he could put in place were steps that would enable h him to stay in power. >> shannon: what do you think now that we are in this transition period as the militias have to be unified and the government has to come together. they are aiming to have elections in eight months. worried about the time with the open power vacuum and worried about islamic extremists moving into power? how do you think it plays out the next eight months. >> we will get some kind of

indication today by what happens in the elections in tunisia. what political party will be the dom innocent force in their new parliament. as egypt transitions to elections and we'll see what happens to libya. i think you you need to take a region and take a look at it in its totality. when mubarak and qaddafi were in power, weed a a buffer. a commitment to part ther in with the west and u.s. to contain radical jihaddism. all of that is now up in the air and up for grabs and we need to help these countries transition hopefully to governments that will continue the same kind of national security policies that were in place before. >> shannon: and speaking of transitions. you served on the permanent select committee on intelligence when you were here in washington and serving in congress. what do you make of the president's announcement that as was negotiated under the

bush administration our troops are all leaving iraq by the end of this year? >> well, i think, you know, the president, this administration couldn't reach an agreement with the iraqi government to leave our troop there's. we could not have troops there and have them subject to the civilian law enforcement or subject to iraqi law. so with no agreement the president had no choice but to withdraw united states troops. the concern there and others have mentioned it, is will this increase iranian influence in iraq. if it does, it is going to again destablize the region. iran is a huge problem. it is a cancer in the middle middle east. if it gets more influence, that is going to be problematic to the united states but also to other regimes that are friendly to the united states. saudi arabia and jordan. >> shannon: do you think iraq is at the point where it can stand on its own without the infiltration from iran?

>> i think it can stand on its own to a certain level meaning that it can maintain a semableance of law & order and a semblance of stability. iran is not going to come in there and have an outright influence. what you are worried about are the things that you can't see, the things behind the scenes that may indicate or demonstrate that iran will have a tremendous amount of influence in shaping the internal policies of iraq. it is what we don't see that we ought to be concerned about. >> shannon: former michigan congressman pete hoekstra. and alsod by did icy also busya senate run next year. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> shannon: afghan president hamid karzai says he would side with pakistan if that country ever got into a war with the u.s. his remarks come just days after he harshly criticized

that country and touted his alliance with the u.s. some see his statement as an overturn to pakistan. it is condoleezza rice's turn to dish about her years with the bush administration. erecalls clashing repeatedly with the vice president over what to do with captured terror suspects and once she even threatened to resign. that is according to the new york times which obtained a copy of the book. she also details odd encounters with foreign leaders. an update in the case of missing baby lisa irwin. an attorney for the baby's parents is fighting back against the reports that a cadaver dog picked up the scent of death in the house. hell of a competitohe disputes. police is followed hundreds of leads since she was reported

missing october 4. the family of missing arizona 8-year-old held a prayer vigil outside their apartment. the child's grand mother is pushing the authorities and the media to do more to find her granddaughter. >> about 100 people turned out to attend the vigil for the five-year-old. friends, family and neighbors marched outside the home where the girl was abducted. she was apparently taken while her mother was away doing an errand while the little girl was home with her siblings. last night supporters marched. the message clear from those who marched both day and night, bring jaysee back home. >> we are hoping that we can becken with the person's heart and they will do the right thing and also trying to raise enough money to help the family to be able to afford to get a private investigate. we are going to stay positive and do what we have to

do. >> jshessye's mother lashed out at reporters for disclosing where the family lived to her ex-husband who is now in prison. only days ago, the grand mother accused the media as well as the police of not doing more about the case because the little girl is black. the story has taken another unexpected return. the mother was charged with child abuse in served eight and a half years -- excuse me, half of an eight year sentence before being paroled. police say they are doing all they can to find her and aren't letting the criminal convictions of family members overshadow the investigation. >> none of the family members are being named as suspects although everybody is a person of interest. investigators are well aware of the family's history and although it does play a part they still have to look at the big picture. this wouldn't be the first time that investigators have dealt

with family members who have criminal histories. >> authorities are offering an $11,000 reward in addition to $5,000 from the family for information on jahessye's where abouts and safe return. >> we hope they get helpful calls. david lee miller, thank you so much. >> vice president biden made headlines with bold statements this week about crime in flint, michigan. but did he have his facts straight? well, we will turn to a fact checker to check out for us after the break. plus, retracing h history. we will take a closer look at the journey martin luther king, jr. took leading up to the march on washington and how it affected a member of fox and his family. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with the strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon.

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in 2008, when flint had 265 sworn officers on their police force, there were 35 murders and 91 rapes in the city. in 2010 when flint had only 144 police officers the murder rate climbed to 65 and rapes just to

pick two categories climbed to 229. in 2011 you now only have 125 shields. >> shannon: strong words from vice president biden on crime statistics in flint, michigan, sparked a lot of controversy. he was talking about funding civil servants and how it affects crime but is what he said really true? joining us to help sort it all out is a washington post fact checker glen kessler. thank you for coming in. this has got and lot of attention. what did you find when you try to break down the numbers? >> what you have here is vice president biden is comparing two different datasets. the first figure the number of rapes was an fbi number which is their definition of rape. the 2010 figure is a broader category of sexual assault which includes both what the fbi defines as rape and all sorts of other kinds of sexual assault. it is completely different

categories. >> shannon: by all accounts there was an increase in murders but the rape numbers actually appear that they have gone down, not tripled. where was the mistake made? >> well, the vice president's office asked apparently the flint police department for the full range of sexual assault data without bothering to check what actually was the statistics in 2008. and statistically the idea that rape would triple in a period of two years. >> creates a lot of questions. the flint police chief we heard him say he doesn't think there is a connection between how many people they have on to, how much funding they have and the amount of crime. what else did you find along those lines. >> a subject that researchers really tried to figure out. how much does additional resources affect crime and every study that i looked at, there is some that say yes, it can make a difference but it is one of many factors.

the fbi for instance lists a dozen different factors that could affect crime. and the flint police chief who is there on the ground and he has noted that the number of murders reached its all time high when the police force was double the size as it it is now and he doesn't think there is now difference. and my attitude is if the flint police chief thinks there is no connection i'm not sure why the vice president is making this connection. >> shannon: always good to have you here to break down the numbers and facts. we will have you back again soon. >> glad to be here. >> thanks. >> shannon: reason to celebrate in france today. a first ever or a sitting in president. we'll fill you in on that. and our own one williams and his family talk about what martin luther king's legacyo. means to them. stay with us. [ thinking ] i wonder what other questionable choices i've made?

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>> shannon: celebrations today in the streets of libya as the people revel in their independence. peter doocs standing by with that and the other top stories. >> libya declares its freedom today in a ceremony. the transitional government hopes to hold elections for a permanent government within a year. the afghan president says he would side with pakistan if that country got into a war with the u.s. his remarks to gotv in pakistan comes days after he harshly criticized the neighboring country. a glimpse's of france's 1st mariner bank countdown to kickof a glimpse of france's first, first baby. country singer loretta lynn is in the hospital with pneumonia. she has to cancel concerts because of her illness. >> shannon: a special look at the civil rights movement from

fox contributor juan williams and his sons. the williams family retraces kings steps to the day he led the march on washington. >> two eggs scrambled, please. >> you have yellly and stuff, right? >> of course. >> the reason i came over to the grill today is that i wanted to start this trip down to the king memorial where dr. king started the day that he gave the "i have a dream" speech in '63. and he is a not a serious guy. the fact is everybody says this is a guy who was a lot of fun, who comes in and he is telling jokes and he is laughing and he is having breakfast. >> a crazy scene that morning, i would imagine. >> think about that just even like coming in and he was about to give that speech and what is going through his mind as he is preparing but then also trying to drive people down there and

let people know this is something that we are all doing. >> the funny part about it is he was -- because he came to washington so frequently, people knew him in here. it is not like he comes in like a movie star. he comes in like a regular. he has got to be thinking about the speech, you know, he has got to be saying h hello to people. but at the same time his brain knows something big is going on. >> do you think he realized how big that moment was going to be beforehand? >> they worked hard to make about happen. remember, the government didn't want the march on washington. >> they were afraid of it. >> they were afraid there was going to be a riot. you know what else about that march is cool or strange? the competition among the people who were speaking. they didn't want to give king a prime spot speaking. they made him speak last thinking that the tv networks would all be gone. >> i see.

>> but, of course, he speaks last and people wait. everybody is waiting to hear from dr. king. what is hard for me to get across to the two of you is what a different world you live in than the one i grew up in. i grew up in a world that was being changed by dr. king. but for you, you grew up in a world that has where-changed. >> well, it is just something that is so ma far removed from. this country service seg segregated. i read about it in books but i never experienced it. >> dr. king here in the morning he has got a copy of the washington post. there is nobody black writing for the washington post. in my life, i become the white house correspondent for the washington post. that is a leap. you see me on tv. it is not like oh, my gosh there is a black guy on tv.

it's there is my dad. for him it would have been there are no black people if i turn on the tv. certainly not talking politics. >> i don't get told no because i'm black. >> i hope not but that is the think do you realize, three me as your father that people still see you as a black kid if you are walking down the street. when you have to overcome things, when you have to overcome in order to achieve does it make you stronger. i think for my generation t is like, you know, where my mom i think every black mom used to say you have to be twice as good in order to get half as far. >> right. >> so good to see you. >> these are my sons. i want to introduce them to you. this is antonio and this is

raffi, just graduated from college. >> is that right. >> we are going down to the king memorial and i just thought, you know, i know somebody who knew dr. king. if i could introduce them to the man who knew the man. but what was it like that day because you were actually involved in helping him get set on the speech. >> well, we had worked on the speech for a week in new york and then here because he was to be limited to ten minutes. and we were having a time trying to capture all that he meant to the world at that moment from birmingham in ten minutes. we said martin, at least i said to him, martin, you got to do what your spirit says to do. >> i know that must have been something. >> the greatest speech of our time. >> you heard it right. you were on the stage? >> i was on the stage but exhausted because the night before after we paid $66,000 for a loud speaker system to

take us all the way across the mall somebody had savaged it. >> cut the wires. >> cut the wires. only the u.s. corps could put it back together. >> and they did. >> after i asked bobby kennedy. they said if we don't have that thing going at noon we would have it 2* hundred thousand people here who can't hear. >> and it going to be trouble. >> it is going to be trouble. i was like lord. and because i couldn't do it but i watched them work and at 12 noon i heard somebody say testing one, two. >> that was good. what it was like as you were watching the 200,000 people come on to the mall and you are up there on the stage right there behind dr. king. what was that feeling? >> it was like the children of israel coming across the red sea. and when i saw america black and white and red and brown and yellow together marching together, it was worth all of

the pain and all of the anxiety that i had endured. >> what do you see from your angle, you are 78? >> 78, yes. >> 78. by the way, you're looking great, man. >> that is because i keep myself physically fit and mentally awake an and morally straight. >> this guy is aning ecktive of a big company and just got out of a fancy car. what do you think of these guys? >> i thought fo shout for joy i remember the dream that we had. when said one of these days my little four children will not be humiliated. that day has arrived. >> you know, you have been so nice because i wanted to introduce them to somebody who knew dr. king and loved dr. king and i know that he loved you you and i thought for them as young man it touch you. now, we will go down and take a

look at the memorial. it will be the first time the boys have seen it. it is an emotional moment but to have you take a moment to say hello to my sons, i appreciate it. i want to say thank you. >> i want to thank you for you and thank you for the future. we shall overcome. >> thank you. thank you you very much. ♪ >> okay, guys here we are. we made it. this is the king memorial and the idea is that this was a mountain of despair going back to the time i was telling you about, 1950s. 1960s. legal segregation and then we start to move and as king spoke about out of that mountain of despair comes a civil rights

movement that produces this stone of hope and he is coming out of that as literally is personification of movement, of people, ordinary people doing extraordinary things and for us as people, as black people he moved our lives. i just wouldn't be me without him. and you couldn't be my son, you couldn't be you. >> well, for me it has always been that martin luther king is the symbol of the civil rights movement and he is the one factor of it. and what is being taught in school, you think martin luther king is the civil rights movement. it is only until recently that i realized he is an intricate piece of it but there is so much more around him. >> you guys never had to live in segregation. >> it as different country today than it was back then and it is really because of the civil rights movement and because of the things that king has done. we recognize that but i don't think it is possible to fully

underand it it. >> he is a nobel peace prize winner. bigger even than the powerful experience we as black americans have had with him. he is a gift, a blessing to the world. >> i did a google search on dr. king before i came down here and an interesting thing on the wiki diagnose speedia, he is the second most recognizable american behind lincoln. >> sometimes i went to professional young black leader and everybody praises him and they don't realize what a change agent, how radical, how he was appealing to the conscience of all people in the name of god we will be equal and have opportunities. but to stand up for it and give his life for it, shed his blood, it touches my heart. so guys, i appreciate you getting down here, coming with the old man and making the trek.

>> thanks for bringing us, dad. >> i love you. thanks. >> shannon: our thanks to the williams family. this piece was put together in conjunction with the roger ales a(issues program. a constitutional crisis erupts at a florida elementary school. up next, a fair and balanced debate on prayer at the school flagpole. [ male announcer ] ntgomery and abigail haggins had a tree that borthe most rare and magical fruit, which provided for their every financial need. [ thunder rumbling ] [ thunder crashing ] and then, in one blinding blink of an eye, their tree had gen its last. butith their raymond james finanal advisor, they had prepared for even the unthinkable. ♪ and they danced. see what a raymond james advisor can do for you. and they danced. ♪ ♪ ♪ when the things that you need ♪ ♪ come at just the right speed, that's logistics. ♪

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>> shannon: pope benedict has named three new saints. an italian bishop, a nun from spain and an italian priest all given one of the catholic churches highest honors during a two hour mass in vatican city. towards the end of the mass a man tried to climb up the colonade and burn a book but he was talked down by vatican guards. a controversial controversy brewing at a florida elementary school. it started when the principal sent out a news letter to the

staff about a prayer session. he quoted a paston from a christian web side who says "our children need god back in school and the first amendment was for christian not other religions." they asked the school district to end the prayer sessions at the flagpole. joining us to debate this, annie lawyer reguy elector, the copresident of the freedom from religion foundation and reverent baker who leads prayers at the flagpole. >> what are your main concerns or objections here? >> we had a two part complaint. we let the superintendent know that a principal had sent a newsletter saying that encouraging teachers and staff to go to a prayer session before school. and quoting a minister saying that the first amendment applies only to christians that we need to get the bible and

prayer back in the public schools. we felt this was utterly inappropriate and we also asked the superintendent to investigate the fact that there were weekly devotionals taking place led by ministers right before the school day. this is totally inappropriate for our public schools which have a captive audience of yes vang children. we are talking ages as young as four in an elementary school. and our schools are here to teach, not to indoctrineate and we need to keep children away from predators who will trespass on the school for their own agenda. >> shannon: let me bring in reverend baker. who is involved directly in the prayer? >> the first sessions are before school begins. they are strictly voluntary. they are not in the general flow of students. we are outside around the flagpole.

there are no staff or administrators involved as far as leading. it is strictly voluntary. and well within the policies and procedures that allow for that given those parameters we are well within that. they are not there to indoctrinate anybody. we feel an emphasis to be able to pray for the school safety. the teachers are dedicated individuals. they gave of their time and own money and spend hours off the clock preparing. the bus drivers, the cafeteria workers, custodians, crossing guards, we want to pray for them for god's safety and blessing upon them. we are in no way doing any of those other things brought up. i just want people to understand we are there to pray that jesus encourages his discipleles to pray. that is the one thing they ask them to do. i don't think prayer is an evil thing. i don't think it is an unnecessary or unnatural thing. most of the families and most of students would appreciate

knowing they are being prayed for. that is strictly all we are doing. nothing to be a hindrance or to be an obstacle or in any way to be a trouble causing agency. not anything like that. >> would you have a problem if a muslim group or jewish group or any other group wanted to have the same kinds of prayers. >> that would be fine. that is what makes america great. >> that is not fine with me. >> shannon: you used the word predator. to a lot of people that is a strong word. explain why would you would feel the need to use that particular word. >> children are coming to school as these grown ministers and flock and they are encouraging teachers and principals to come are praying very clearly devotionally and that is obviously done for the benefit of the children. why else are they going to school when they have churches all over the community and this minister can sermonize and he can pray as much as he likes at his church and privately.

on city sidewalks even but there is on school grounds. this is inappropriate. i think it should be obvious we can't have strange adults wandering around the schools doing whatever they like as children are arriving. this has religious purpose and it was promoted and advertised by the principal who said, quoted that the first amendment applies only to christians and that is the antithesis of the first amendment. >> the principal since said he was quoting someone else. otede was promoting the big idea that rights only exist for christians. what message does this send to juicisjewish parents and their children and that nonchristians. >> shannon: thank you for your time. we understand the prayers are

going to continue and the reverend said he would welcome other religions as well. we know that your organization, has asked that they stop. we will continue to follow this and the response from the school district as well. thank you both. >> thank you. >> shannon: could the u.s. be in danger of another credit downgrade? we will talk about that very squarey possibility, next. with advanced power, the verizon 4g lte network makes your business run faster: smartphones, laptops, tablets, mobile hotspots. but not all 4g is created equal. among the major carriers, only verizon's 4g network is 100% lte, the gold standard of wireless technology. and while other carriers may have limited lte coverage, verizon is the largest lte network in america and ever-growing. with verizon 4g lte, you can invent new ways to upgrade your business using real-time group meetings from remote locations, video conferencing, mobile credit-card payments, lightning-fast downloads, and access to thousands of business apps.

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>> shannon: we love hearing from you at home and today we have been asking you do you agree with what mitt romney said that any of the gop candidates would do a better job than president obama. lots of you you weighed in. here are few of your responses. joe writes the most qualified gop candidate running is newt but he can't win because he made personal mistakes years ago. alex says any one in the gop would be better than obama by a mile. according to patrick the only gop candidate that would do a better job than president obama is ron paul. lawrence said firmly disagree. i don't want any one who is antiscience, antihealthcare for all running this great country. thanks to everybody who weighed in. we love to hear from you. that is it for us here from washington. "fox news sunday" is up next. chris sits