to start. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> you're watching "fox & friends"! that's a great way to begin your day. >> thank you very much, don king. it's got to be good luck, you know, they say that if it rains on your wedding, that's good luck and if a bird flies over and poops on your shoulder, that's good luck. >> really? >> yeah, dust storm has to be good luck. >> it's not the 24th of october. it's the 25th. don't reset your calendars. it's tuesday your 25th. >> that's your good luck. >> we have a ton of election news to share with you. first thing is first. we have to tell you what's happening in the world. >> do your headlines right now. developing story overnight. former dictator muammar qaddafi buried at dawn at a secret location in the libyan desert much the funeral overseen by a muslim cleric. qaddafi's son was buried beside him. the interim government reportedly tried giving the body

back to qaddafi's tribe but those talks broke down. moments ago, signs of hope out of turkey, a 14-day-old baby rescued alive from the rubble of a collapsed building 46 hours after the earthquake struck. another rescue to tell you about, a man saved after being stuck in a van under another collapsed building. 366 people so far have died with more than 1300 hurt. over 2,000 buildings destroyed. chaos spreading among those in need. some people appear to be looting this truck taking clothes, blankets and any other items they could get their hands on. a nurse who treated michael jackson expected to testify about his request for a power l antistetic when she testifies today. another doctor testifying the singer had insomnia for years and begged him for something stronger than sleeping pills. >> i would say over 15 or 20 years, i know that sleep was an

issue particularly after performing. he could not come down. he asked me about being a sleep medicine. >> did he happen to mention the name of this medicine? >> i think he used the word juice. >> well, juice was jackson's code word for propofol. the trial expected to start a little later today because president obama is in los angeles and the judge doesn't want jurors getting caught in traffic. a bride and groom from arizona nearly blown off their feet during a powerful dust storm. it kicked up as they were about to exchange their vows. >> by the authority vested in me in the state of arizona, i now pronounce you husband and wife. congratulations, you may kiss the bride. >> yeah! >> wow. look at the umbrella. the groom says he got a mouthful of dust during that kiss and the bride says it wasn't easy holding on to her veil and

dress. watch to what happens to the umbrella. bye. wow, it looked like as soon as it came in, it went out. amazing. they'll never forget that moment. >> if you were planning a wedding, have a rain date. seriously. >> what about a dust date? >> or a trent. -- tent. >> not a bad idea. let's talk about this. you know that herman cain has a lot of traction and has that bold plan called 999, a flat tax. well, today, rick perry in south carolina is going to give a speech and he's going to have a rare press conference where he actually unveils his new cut, balance and grow plan and folks, it's a flat tax. >> but there's choice in it which i think this is going to be very appealing and this is the answer to herman cain's 999 plan. here's what it is. optional 20% flat tax or you can stay with the current tax rate that you are paying. also, this would cap federal spending at 18% of the gross domestic product, the gdp. it would end the death, the

estate tax, many people wanted it to end and it bans earmarks. >> one of the other things it does is gives you credit for having people in your family. $12,500 a person. for example, two parents and the kid, $37,500 will be excluded from your income tax. start from $37,500 down. >> so if you're a working senior, they will eliminate the taxes you have to pay. that would be good for you. also, if your family makes $500,000 or less, you will continue to have the mortgage deduction and you'll be able to deduct your charitable contributions as well and right there at the bottom, there's what brian was talking about, the $12,500 standard deduction per dependent. what's interesting is, you know, with the herman cain plan 999 where it's 9% personal income tax across the board, this is 20% if you opt for it. if you're currently part of the 47% that doesn't pay any, you got to figure you probably would

opt for zero. >> and the other thing is there's no national sales tax attached to this plan which is a huge difference between what's about to be the perry plan and the herman cain plan and that was the one much talked about controversial point of the herman cain plan was adding that 9% federal tax to your retail consumption. >> all right, so we'll see how that stacks up and we'll see if maybe the cbo or somebody else wants to grade it on the side and see if enough revenue goes in there to change anything. how does that plan stack up against plans of other frontrunners? molly henneberg has a calculator and very smart math friend, very good at math, i should say, and more from washington. what did you come up with? anything? >> always, brian. good morning, brian. >> that's good news. >> gretchen and steve. rick perry is hoping this new economic plan that includes that flat tax proposal will give some gas to his campaign especially among conservatives who are intrigued or interested in the flat tax proposal because they say it would be more simple and more equitable across the board.

as you all were just saying, perry who will likely need a good showing next year will officially unveil his economic plan today in columbia, south carolina. as you pointed out, it would allow families to opt into a 20% flat tax rate or stick with the current tax system and still preserve the popular charitable and mortgage deduction. that will give a little competition to herman cain's 999 plan that's gotten so much attention and scrutiny. that would provide a flat 9% income tax rate and adds a 9% sales tax which conservatives are skeptical of. they don't like the idea of adding a federal sales tax on top of an income tax. conservatives also voiced concern that congress would or could raise that 9% sales tax in the future. that's part of their concern. as for mitt romney, while he has not been a fan of the flat tax in the past, he has said that he does favor a simpler tax code

and he said yesterday that the tax system should be "flatter." but he said the details of any such plan are key. romney's economic plan thus far does not include a flat tax but would lower some tax rates for middle class families and corporations. perry's announcement of his optional 20% flat tax comes on the heels of businessman steve forbes endorsing him. forbes, when he ran for president in 1996 proposed a 17% flat tax and he advised perry on putting this plan together. back to you guys in new york. >> great comparison, all right, molly henneberg, we thank you very much. the white house and the president didn't waste much time ripping the g.o.p. plans. here's a quote. both the romney and perry economic plans embrace a far right vision for our tax code. both plans would cut taxes on wealth and investment income shifting the tax burden on to work and wages. hey, james who put out that statement, if you currently pay

zero federal tax, according to what we've read so far in "the wall street journal", it doesn't look like you would have to if you opted in for the same status quo. >> according to the perry plan. because one of the main complaints about the herman cain plan is it would raise taxes on lower income and middle class people. so there is a difference there between the two plans. >> and they also sewed up a lot of the loopholes if the flat tax goes through, even the 999 plan goes through so the president of the united states has his surrogates put out this rebuttal to the flat tax, governor perry put out, mitt romney did it about three weeks ago and you know about the 999 plan but in terms of the president's plan, i mean, he can feel very confident that he put out a plan that america embraces considering it's in pieces. the job got nowhere. we don't know anything about his tax reform idea and now as they go piece by piece through, it's been rejected. trade agreement has been ok but the other two elements have not and this next try will be the infrastructure bank and no one is really waiting in

anticipation to pass that. >> it has been rejected on a bipartisan basis, both republicans and democrats have rejected his plan so far. so what's that about? >> as we sit at 9.1% unemployment still and that's where we've been in the past couple of years, it appears from the outset that the republican candidates are willing to take a stab at serious reform while the president seems to be staying with the status quo. that's the way i break it down in my head simply this morning. in the meantime, let's tell you about something else. the president, as you recall, we played this at the open of the show determined that he would not hire lobbyists and would stay away from that. he just hired a former lobbyist for his 2012 campaign that recently lobbied for wall street banks, also for microsoft, comcast, fed ex, ford and transcanada, gentleman by the name of broderick johnson, senior advisor to the re-election campaign for president obama. >> he officially deregistered as a lobbyist in april.

he, by the way, is married to one of the anchors over at npr, she, michele norris has taken a leave of absence from the air duty so she doesn't have any conflict of interest when covering the white house, etc.. >> i like this. some of these people that are outraged are not the typical people. you don't see mitt romney or governor perry necessarily saying anything. you see a lot of environmental groups saying stuff because evidently mr. johnson represents this keystone oil pipeline and they believe it's not environmentally friendly and they're so reserved, these environmental groups when they feel like they're dissed, you can count on them many being on the couch and allowing this to go away. you have both sides upset that he's going against his word. >> in a week, we'll be having halloween if you're getting your kids' costumes ready and your house is all decorated. one lawmaker is proposing moving halloween every year to a saturday. as you know, it's on a monday this week or this year. anor y and your familyecause you're trying to get the kids in their costumes

and get home from work early and get them all ready and feed them dinner and have them eat their allotted amount of candy before they have to go to bed if they can fall asleep. wouldn't it be a good idea to move it every year to saturday so it could become more of a family -- >> kim larson of connecticut, are the hartford area is a genius. schools don't go in and get you off, you have to be in school and wear a costume and then eat candy during the day and go trick or treating at night. how do you do homework? how do you concentrate? what about the math, what about the spelling and what about the social studies? this way, you have it on a saturday and everybody is offer and everybody is ok. >> one of the things he talks about is the fact that halloween does, whether you like it or not, it has an economic impact on the economy because, you know, retailers sell the candy, they sell the costumes and the whole rigamaroll. >> dentists have their fillings. >> one dentist is trying to buy the candy back. do you think that's a good idea

to make halloween the way thanksgiving is always that thursday in november, to make halloween the final saturday in the month of october, forget about the last day of october, the last saturday? good idea? bad idea? e-mail us, friends at foxnews.com and we'll share some of your ideas later on here in this before halloween telecast. >> should we swap it out for thanksgiving since everybody seems to love halloween. >> since you don't love halloween. that's why you would suggest that. >> brian accide, you're fired. >> you can tweet as well. e-mail us or tweet us your thoughts on that. the president announcing a bold new plan to save the housing market and bail out families. our next guest says it could have the opposite effect. >> coming it a college near you, coed dorm rooms, coed showers. it's all part of the growing trend to make things general neutral. we're not kidding. look out, iowa. it's by you. looking good! you lost some weight.

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>> we can't wait for an increasingly dysfunctional congress to do its job. where they won't act, i will. >> that's president obama yesterday in vegas taking a shot at members of congress as he unveiled a plan he hopes will help the struggling housing market. it's lousy in vegas. the plan allows homeowners to refinance even if they're underwater and owe more money on their homes than the houses are actually worth. but will the president's new plan lay the groundwork for a future housing crisis? and perhaps, another bailout. it's our pleasure right now to join with us from the university of maryland, professor and

economist peter marichi. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> there are many troubling things about this. you know the president is trying to not only keep people in their houses but to try to keep him in the white house as well with this. >> absolutely. this is really a re-election ploy because it's going to create new problems down the road. either for the next president or himself. you know, fannie mae or freddie mac will be underwriting loans for homes that are worth half of the value of what they loaned the money for. when those houses are sold, fannie mae and freddie mac will be on the hook which means we're going to be on the hook. likewise, he'll be loaning money to people who can't pay it back. >> yeah. and then who is left with the, you know, with holding the bag? that would be uncle sam which really is all of us. what's interesting about this new plan and the sad part for people is it doesn't sound like it really is going to kick in until next year, no income checks and no appraisals for the houses, that's crazy. >> we don't know how big the

federal liability will be. they may be loaning somebody $500,000 on a house that's worth $400,000 or $300,000 or $200,000. there will be no way of tallying up. all we'll know is what the borrower says it might be worth on a loan application. likewise, no income checks, what if someone owes $300,000 and the family has an income of $80,000 a year and it was based on overtime and things of that nature and they lost it and over the last three months, they've been using the atm machine to make their payments. all that is required is that right now, they're up to date. it doesn't ask how they manage to stay up to date. >> that's exactly right. this program a couple of years ago when it was first unveiled, they had hoped to help, what, 5 or 8, 5 million people and only a fraction took advantage of it because there are requirements with this and that is your loan has got to be underwritten by fannie or freddie. how many people could possibly take advantage of this, peter? >> well, i think we could get upwards of, say, 800,000 to a million take advantage of it.

it depends on whether the big banks will go along. the big banks are being absolved from, you know, underwriting errors which is a very dangerous thing. why not have me take the applications? i'll process them for 10 bucks a piece. that's what this comes down to. but the banks may be very cautious thinking that the future congress will hold them accountable. it would be a big legal mess but if i were -- if i were citigroup, i'd want no part of this. if that's the case, he's not going to get many loans written. >> such a good point. all right. professor at the university of maryland, thank you very much for joining us live from d.c. talking about harp. next up on the rundown, want a welfare check? one state says you need to take a drug test first but that state just overruled. then a look at the new middle east from iran to pakistan. how one of the most dangerous regions has changed since president obama has taken the reins. we'll be right back.

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>> welcome back, everyone. 23 minutes after the top of the hour. president obama announcing all 40,000 troops in iraq will be coming home before christmas coupled with his promise to draw down troops in afghanistan. will this shift the balance of power in the mideast, then, and leave the region more unstable? joining me now with some insight is senior fellow for the center of advanced studies, lieutenant colonel tony schaefer. let's go down the list of middle eastern countries that you feel are so pivotal in this discussion. iraq, do you consider it stable or unstable? >> i consider it stable at this point because frankly, the iranians are clearly out to increase their level -- >> unstable you mean. >> unstable. because they're out to create more havoc for us in that region and let's be brutally honest here, north korea is in a similar situation. we have 38,000 people in south korea trying to secure that area so the idea of leaving at the very time that the iranians are

actually doing things to be provocative to include the assassination plan for the saudi ambassador in washington, you have to look at this and try to understand why it's important to maintain strength there and i don't think we're doing it adequately. >> let's look at a usual u.s. friend, saudi arabia. stable or unstable? >> it's stable but not helpful. let's not forget that the saudi royal family is in this quasi succession twilight zone because the prince who was supposed to be the new king died before the king did. so now we don't know how stable they're going to be as they go through this and they are a key ally which may not be able to depend upon. >> and the prince's brother, more radical than the prince is who died. >> absolutely. nothing good there. >> libya, after yesterday in the news that they may impose sharia law and you can marry up to four wives. i can understand you're unstable. >> they went from a concept of freedom and they have to go to the cohesion of governance and i'm not sure they can. there's 20,000 portable surface to air missiles that were used before terrorist attacks and you

have to look at the fact that there's 41 separate tribes now armed, all are armed and a lot of it has bad attitudes about what's happened over the past 42 years. the question becomes can they re-establish social order and good governance quickly? this is something i don't think they can do rapidly. >> afghanistan you label as unstable. i'm getting nervous. all the rest of these are going to be unstable. >> afghanistan is a basket case and always will be. the only people that benefit -- only country that benefits from a stable afghanistan is the chinese. let me talk about this in human terms. sergeant paul rivera died there two days ago, he was a military police officer. he shouldn't have been there. the idea is this is a special operations war with an ally who is not really an ally. we have the pakistanis who have been doing things with the haqqani network as a proxy. as well as we have the pakistanis not being helpful, we cannot achieve any permanent stable afghanistan objectives. >> that's why you also label pakistan unstable. i mean, i think after the killing of usama bin laden and

then they put the people responsible who may have helped the united states in giving us information in jail, it's pretty obvious they're not necessarily our friends. >> we have to understand pakistan from pakistan's perspective. they are out for themselves. every nation state will act in its own self-interest. this is what we've neglected to understand over the last 10 years but we need to focus on because of the fact that they have nuclear weapons and they have a very radical population who is moving in that direction right now. >> what about syria? because the administration here has said assad has to leave but not really doing anything to make that happen, you call it unstable. >> i do and robert ford, the ambassador there was pulled out yesterday. he's a great guy from the guys i talked to at the state department about this. problem is we don't have a credible threat of issues, deterrents against them. the libya thing was kind of left-handed. look what we do in libya. leading from behind is not helping in syria. syrians look at us and say what are you going to do to us? that's why the ambassador who has been trying to speak out to support the uprisings has been the one who has been physically threatened by the regime so that

to me is telling me that the syrians are not taking what we're saying seriously at this point. >> one stable country out of six this morning. >> that's right. >> we should feel a little uneasy about the situation there. lieutenant colonel tony schaefer, always good to see you. >> thank you. >> coming to a college near you, coed dorm rooms, even coed showers. it's all part of a growing trend to make things gender neutral for all of us and we're not kidding. details straight ahead. >> what does stuart varney think about rick perry's tax plan that lets americans set their own rate? will perry give herman cain's 999 plan a run for its money? will mitt romney come up with a plan there? happy birthday to katy perry, the singer is 27. endless shrimp is ourn at red lobster. there's so many choices. the guests love it. [ male announcer ] it's endless hrimp today at red lobster.

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no wonder more businesses choose verizon wireless than any other wireless carrier. verizon. >> a bank in washington was robbed by two men in george w. bush masks. yeah. luckily right afterwards, two guys in obama masks came and bailed the bank out. >> that's funny and true. >> i didn't know that, though. >> let's talk about a controversial topic that if you're about to ready your kids

off to college any time soon, you may not -- >> if you have kids in college. i got two girls there right now and this is an eye opener. >> what are you talking about? >> grinnell college in grinnell, iowa. >> they're trying to do something that's never been done before. i've heard of coed dorms and i thought that was edgy and then i heard of coed floors and now we're hearing of coed rooms? coed showers? coed bathrooms? you can have a roommate. >> this will really get you hot under the collar. coed athletic areas. >> that's ok. >> huh? >> do they work out together? >> no, you get dressed together. no, locker rooms, yes. >> excuse me, honey, your bra is covering my socks. i have a game later. >> out there, too. >> grinnell is coming up with a gender neutral floors and they say we've got a number of students who don't want to be labelled something. they've got male students,

female, transgender, no gender, gay, lesbian, straight, they want to be a place welcoming to all so what they've done is they've opened it up so where if you want to live with anybody else on campus, it's ok with us. >> i was trying to find my facts and figures. i was blown away by the percentage -- here it is. the percentage that it's gone up in just one year, the idea was driven by transgender students. who don't identify themselves as male or female but in the fall, it went up 18%. 18% of transgender students going to this particular college, does that sound unusual to you? 18%? >> i do, i don't know the percentage -- >> i didn't know it was a new trend. >> it's in vogue. it's like bell bottoms. never know. >> i wish we had some video of what's going on. >> cracking up over on the sidelines here. >> i never met stuart varney in person. there's also been a reaction from heterosexual students around the country, can we see that? >> the majority has the voice?

what do they say? >> so they're liking this. >> that's crazy! >> this isn't live? is this live? >> those are kids from other schools. >> rallying about something else. >> beer. >> as a father with two girls in college right now and one of them is at boston college where she lives on a coed floor. i mean, there are men who live across the hall on each side. but just the idea that at grinnell, you could actually have a man in the next shower to my daughter. >> or in that shower. if all the heads are taken. say listen, i'm in a rush. >> that stuff was going on in college when i went way back anyway. but it wasn't mandated. >> authorized by school. >> you would get rebuked if you did that but they discourage intimacy. they want you to be friends. >> it does happen, they say relationships do happen. they discourage it. >> how does that happen? living with a woman suddenly could flourish?

i never heard of it! >> i know. they say they don't want to create a shack-up community. >> right. ok. everyone has hopes and goals but believe me, college, shacking up happens anyway. you are now sprinting it in. >> right. all because -- we're missing the point of the story. all because of one little tiny percent of society. another one of those stories where everything is changing as a result of just a few people. >> all right. now, let's take a quick look at what's happening around the world. israel agreeing to another prisoner swap this time with egypt. under the plan, egypt will release a 27-year-old in exchange for 25 egyptian prisoners being held in israel. grapel who has american and israeli citizenship was arrested in cairo on suspicion of spying. he's never been charged. the exchange could take place as early as thursday. >> dr. phil mcgraw is paying for rebecca zahoo's body to be exhumed. her family doesn't believe she hanged herself as police in san diego claim.

now, remember this story a couple of months ago, she is the former girlfriend of pharmaceutical tycoon. days before her suicide in this bizarre story, that beautiful child there, his son fell down the stairs and died. zahau found the child's body. her family believes she was murdered, though, and wants her body retested for evidence of foul play. >> meanwhile, setback for florida's plan to require a drug test before you get a welfare check. a federal judge has temporarily blocked it. that guy right there, governor rick perry -- rather, rick scott made a big push to get the law passed but a judge says it may violate the ban on unreasonable searches. >> all right. after getting crushed in the world series last year, the t t texas rangers are now one win away from getting crowned champions. they'll have to do it on the road. mike napoli came up with the big clutch hit of the night. this two-run double in the eighth inning gave the rangers

the lead. bull pen did the rest. now, napoli got -- a little bit later, napoli would make a catch. the rangers go on to win and lead the series 3-2 games. game six will be in st. louis as will game seven. >> weather from texas to st. louis and beyond. currently dry in both those spots. we have widely scattered showers in portions of the northern plains and a little bit of activity in the great state of maine right now. it's 43 in caribou and some showers across maine. meanwhile, in the mid atlantic, temperatures in the upper 40's. but as you can see, temperatures much chillier back out in the inner mountain region. currently, it's in the 30's. later on today, montana, somebody is up out there. you'll have a high of 44. here in new york city, 60. we're looking for 77 in atlanta and 86 in san antonio, texas. meanwhile, speaking of texas, texas governor rick perry is going to unveil a new cut,

balance and grow plan later on today. but will people go for it? stuart varney joins us live. stuart, it sounds like it is going to be according to what we read in "the wall street journal", a 20% flat tax. >> yes, it is. now you ask the question will people go for it? the point is they have a choice. if this plan is passed from governor perry, then people will have a choice. do you want to go with the old system? your old tax rate? or do you want to accept the new 20% flat tax rate? i think that makes it more politically attractive, more easy to pass politically because you're not forcing anybody to take a new tax rate or to pay taxes at all. so you've got this voluntary aspect which i think makes it more attractive and passable. >> is it -- is that possible -- can you do the math on that? how do you project costs and revenue if you don't know what people's choice is going to be. >> if you make a lot of money. let's suppose you make a million dollars a year, then pretty sure you're going to choose the 20% flat tax but you've got to make the calculation because if you

make a million bucks a year, you do not get a deduction for your home mortgage, you don't get a deduction for your charitable contributions and you don't get a deduction for the state and local taxes which you pay. so you're right, you've got to make a calcation. if it's voluntary, you got to calculate which is the best tax rate for you. >> keeps accountants in business is what you're saying. >> i think so. >> here's the interesting thing to me is the perry camp had the advantage of looking at the herman cain plan first. the 999 plan. now they've come up with something that includes choice which may make it more attractive than the cain plan hypothetically. will this force mitt romney as we discussed last week to come up with a plan and will be to his advantage to have waited because now he can look at cain, perry and then develop his own. >> yes, it will be to his advantage because he can look at the 999 plan from herman cain and 20% plan from rick perry and pick and choose what is the best aspect and how is the best way to go. >> problem is he's put out his 59-point plan. he'd have to say you know what?

i admit that i should have been thinking flat. >> but the fact that you now have two of the top three candidates on the republican side going for radical tax reform suggests that maybe mitt romney will be pushed into a rationalization if he's 59 points and bring it down to earth a little bit. >> here's what critics are saying. flat tax is bad for the middle class. >> ok. it depends how it works out. >> they have a choice. they have a choice in this. >> that's exactly right. they have a choice. it certainly gives advantages to relatively wealthy people because you have your tax rate down to 20% and by the way, there is no long term capital gains tax in this thing. no -- no estate tax, no death tax. >> warren buffet will get his wish and he'll pay more taxes. coming up at 9:20 eastern time it's going to be "varney & company" isn't it? >> yes, it is. >> coming up on our show, is the united states turning its back on israel? who better to ask than the son

of former prime minister ariel sharon, he's here live with us. >> brand new book about his dad. keep an eye on the sky. what you're looking at does not happen every day. >> i would have noticed. my name is robin.

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when i look at him when he's asleep, when he's asleep, he looks like a man who sleeps strong and self-assured but when he's awake, he opens his eyes, he moves fingers when i ask him to. for me, it's a big deal. i mean, i wish i would have more but it's a big deal when i have some kind of communication with him. hope he will get better. >> of course. especially as his son and what he's meant to the country of israel. he's been in every war that israel has been in and prefer to have been an agriculturist which he also was. i'd like to talk about israel today. how would you characterize now that your family is not technically in the fray in politics the relationship between the u.s. and israel, president obama and president netanyahu? >> the relationship between israel and u.s. on mutual values of justice and freedom and they go way beyond the personal. my father, however, had special relationships with president

bush. he visited president bush 12 times as prime minister. and they had a very special connection. he was even invited to president bush's ranch in crawford, texas. >> and president bush drove and he sat in the passenger's seat and they went through. >> they went through, and they looked at the ranch and they had a good time. >> they had a special relationship because both were victims of terror especially right at that time because of the terrorist bombings after 9/11. we had a huge prisoner swap, as you know, in israel. hundreds of palestinians are now freed that were in israeli prisons and one sergeant is free. what's your reaction to that? was that a good swap? >> well, he was held without anyone able to visit him, not even the red cross. this is illegal, immoral and not human. we don't live -- it was my father who said after being badly wounded in the wars of

independence in 1948 and he was left alone on the battlefield with no chance of surviving, his story of survival is a miracle which i said in tehran over the last leader, he said a rule that became a value. we do not leave our man behind. >> and he's one of the toughest, staunchest, most conservative leaders israel ever had but he still was the author of disengagement where he said gaza, palestinians, you can have gaza. you actually gave your dad the idea. how do you think your dad would view that decision today? >> i'm proud that my father listened to me. that's because my father ariel sharon was also a friend and the ties in the family, our family is very warm and united. i'm proud that he listened to me but the main thing was to take the decision and to execute it. i've seen all other leaders then or today that would be able to do such thing and you know what? the israelis didn't want to stay in gaza.

if we would have with the palestinians we would not stay there so the question was, is it better for us to stay there and wait for a peace that may never arrive or just knew unilaterally what's good for us? >> rockets on a regular basis and a den of terror now that egypt is -- >> brian, let me tell you, we had rockets before. but the palestinians had every chance, they had every chance from all over the world. they missed it. >> you did an unbelievable job with this book and your dad would be so proud. "sharon, the life of a leader" we'll talk more on radio, ok? great meeting you and best of luck. >> thank you very much. >> when anthony wiener left office, he took something with him. tens of thousands of dollars for things like dinners and travel. stories like that is why americans want to clean house in congress. would it be easier if there was an expiration date? we're talking term limits but does the constitution allow for

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>> now we have to be really serious. we're talking about the constitution and the judge is here. according to a new gallup poll, 81% of our americans think our lawmakers are doing a lousy job. 13% approve of the job that congress is doing. >> that has many of us asking why don't we have term limits for members of congress? we have them for presidents and have them for many governors. >> who better to ask than the author of "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." and he's the host of "freedom watch" on fox business. judge andrew napolitano so we do have term limits in the wake of

fdr's tenure as president of the united states. >> right. >> you know, you can only serve two as president, why not have term limits on congress? >> well, when the constitution was written, the framers never thought that members of congress would be well compensated, would make it a career and would be there for many, many terms. the concept was the citizen legislator. had a full-time job and responsibilities at home. went to washington once or twice a year. of course, that all changed. it changed radically about 100 years ago when woodrow wilson became president and built the glorious office buildings that they still have. they paid themselves nice salaries and began to work full time and they decided they liked it so they kept enacting legislation that made it easier for incumbents to get re-elected. >> i don't want to go home! >> right. look at this report, then, rasmussen report, 71% of the american public favors term limits. 14% are opposed to limits and 15 he15% are undecided. what can it not happen? >> because when arkansas

imposed term limits on federal office holders by saying if you've been in the house for three terms or the senate for two terms, your name cannot appear on a ballot in arkansas. it was challenged and the supreme court invalidated that arkansas law saying the state cannot impose a term limit on a federal official, only the constitution can. so guess who has to decide if the constitution gets amended by members of congress? they love their jobs. they're not going to support any effort that will limit their tenure. >> anything that the forefathers predicted and had this great foresight for, they couldn't predict this. when you know how much power, money aside, how much power being a member of congress brings. >> well, you know, the term limits on the presidency were a direct reaction to the long time in office that fdr had and the fact that the constitution had to be amended for that, basically caused the supreme court to say you want to do the same thing for members of congress? amend the constitution. well, a little bit of tongue and cheek because members of congress will never go -- >> let me ask you this, isn't it really -- don't we in fact, evoke, term limits ourselves by

voting? >> we evoke term limits when we vote incumbents out of office. >> so generally, somebody is going to wind up term limited they do it themselves and say i'm only going to run for two terms. >> they decide they like it. absolute power corrupts absolutely. people should not have power for too long. >> with your love of the constitution, do you actually write with an ink well and with a feather quill pen? >> i'm going to bring it the next time. >> i'd like to see it. >> that finger right there and you can catch him on fox business watch weeknights 8:00 and 11:00 p.m. on the fox business network. >> i feel like he's pointing right at me. you, too? >> there you go! >> coming up on the program, driver's license, no problem. one city is saying even a mexican i.d. is ok. >> then this truck stop got $400,000 in stimulus funds even after it went bankrupt! is anybody even vetting this latest round of investment? we'll get to the bottom of it straight ahead. you're watching "fox & friends." sing it, doobie brothers.

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>> hey, good morning, everyone. today is tuesday, october 25th. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time today. an amazing story just moments ago, a baby. look at this video. 14 days old. buried in that massive earthquake. pulled out alive. 46 hours after the earthquake struck. more on that story. >> brand new this morning, rick perry unveiling a bold, new plan that lets you set your tax rate. how will that work? we'll break it down. >> meanwhile, when anthony wiener left office, he took a souvenir. tens of thousands of dollars spending it on everything from travel to fancy meals. is that legal? what do you think? answers straight ahead on "fox & friends" hour two for a tuesday

starts now. >> hi, this is joel olstein. you're watching "fox & friends." good morning. >> good morning. good morning to texas where joel is and the rest of the country, hope you have a great tuesday. >> we're going to give $2 million for the first person that can find joel olstein in a bad mood. he's never been in a bad mood and never not smiling. >> you should be careful. did you read this morning in the papers there's a story about a rapper that lost his laptop and initially he put out and said i'm going to have a $22,000 award. he said i'm going to make it a million dollars. now they're going to give them the money. >> that's because -- you know all this because your best friend is l.l. cool j and you know all the rap. >> i'm down with that. >> down quickly. >> let's find out what's happening in the news and then we'll talk. >> ok. this is a developing story overnight.

former dictator muammar qaddafi buried at dawn at a secret location in the libyan desert. the funeral was overseen by a muslim cleric. his son was buried by him. they tried to give the body back to qaddafi's tribe but those talks broke down. last hour, we told you about a sign of hope out of turkey this morning. moments ago, the video came in. take a look at this, a 14-day-old baby girl rescued alive 46 hours after the earthquake struck. the little girl is named azra and she's being checked out by doctors and another rescue to tell you about, a man saved after being stuck in a van after another collapsed building. 366 people have died with more than 1300 hurt. over 2,000 buildings destroyed. chaos spreading among those in need as well. some people appear to be looting this truck right here taking clothes, blankets and any other items they can get their hands on. a nurse who treated michael jackson is expected to testify about his request for a powerful

antisthetic. they are trying to portray jackson as a desperate drug addict that could have killed himself with an overdose of propofol. another doctor testified that he had insomnia for years and begged him for something stronger than sleeping pills. >> i would say over 15 to 20 years, i know sleep was an issue particularly after performing. he could not come down. he asked me about intravenous sleep medicine. >> did he happened to mention the name of this medicine? >> i think he used the word juice. >> the trial expected to start a little late today because president obama is in los angeles and the judge doesn't want jurors getting caught in traffic. former new york congressman anthony wiener out of office but still apparently a big spender. weiner reportedly using more than $130,000 from his campaign account on consultant salaries, dinners and travel after he was forced out of office in june by his sexting scandal. spending campaign cash after

resigning is legit as long as the money isn't used for personal expenses. and even as weiner's scandal was raging, he apparently was collecting donations. >> $100 billion! >> that is not the congressman but austin powers star mike myers gave weiner the maximum donation of $5,000 during that time. and those are your headlines today. >> all right. speaking of money, rick perry has got a great big war chest and he's going to try to jump-start his campaign later on today. he's going to announce a brand new flat tax plus yesterday, he hired a bunch of new people including joe albach, the guy that ran george bush's campaign in 2000. nevertheless, all eyes are on this flat tax because a lot of people like the idea of herman cain's plan but don't like the idea of the national sales tax. >> let's take a look at rick

perry's plan. the most important point of it is you have a choice. there will be an optional 20% flat tax so if you choose to do that, then you get the rest of these changes. the caps would -- caps federal spending at 18% of the gdp and ends the death tax for you. exemptions for families earning $500,000 or less. and the $12,500 standard deduction for dependents. i'm assuming that's the way it works. if you choose the 20% flat tax, then you have to choose the rest of the plan that comes with that which means you also could not write off charitable giving anymore and you would not get that mortgage deduction if you make over $500,000 a year. but you have a choice. you can stick with the plan that the irs ges you right now. >> also allow younger workers to invest in their social security, eliminate social security taxes for working seniors and you got exemptions so if you're a person, if you're watching this, u have to be a person although

there's some dolphins that lov us. $12,500 per rso faly of three. save $37,500. what i don't understand, i need someone to do the math to see if the revenues will be equal. we can spend more than 18% of the gdp. if you're one of the 40 some percent that won't pay taxes, yowon't golat. that means less revenue coming in. if you're middle class, you'll be paying more so you'll stay with the other system. >> so we got to be listening to the -- mr. perry a little later on. >> you need a private actuary coming up with whether this adds up or not. >> he'll tell us whether or not this is revenue or broaden the tax base. we'll be listening to him a little later on in south carolina. how does that stack up against other plans by other g.o.p. frtrunners? molly henneberg has more from washington, d.c. ok, so molly, compare and ntrast m perry th, f instance, herman cain and the 999 plan. >> ok, i will, steve. good morning, steve, gretchen and brian.

many americans believe the tax code is unnecessarily complicated and unwieldy and these g.o.p. candidates are trying to catch some momentum with plans to fix it. you were talking about rick perry's optional 20% flat tax plan that lets you choose to keep the current tax rate if you want to. there's going to be a lot of discussion about that today. let's look at herman cain's plan, his 999 plan would scrap the current tax code all together and put in its place a 9% income tax except for those americans living at or below the poverty level. a 9% business tax and a 9% federal sales tax. that last line is the one that's been generating a lot of discussion among conservatives who are concerned it may be risky to give the federal government another way via a sales tax to get into americans' wallets. and they're concerned that that 9% could go up in the future. mitt romney's economic plan does not include a flat tax but would lower some tax rates and get rid of others. it would reduce taxes on savings and investments, eliminate death

tax and look towards a long-term goal of a flatter, fairer, simpler tax structure, romney says and lower the corporate income tax rate from 35% to 25%. rick perry's announcement of his optional 20% flat tax comes on the heels of him endorsing it. he proposed a 17% flat tax and advising perry on putting together this plan. perry will talk more in depth about the plan in south carolina and you guys in new york know that's going to be key for him because this is the first in the south primary next year. >> thank you very much for that report. it's interesting when we start to compare them. will mitt romney change his plan as a result of them coming out more in the flat tax area. that remains to be seen. one thing is for sure is the president doesn't like any of the plans. they put out a big press release ripping the romney and the perry plan. here's part of that quote. both the romney and perry economic plans embrace a far right vision for our tax code

and both plans would cut taxes on wealth and investment income shifting the tax burden on to work and wages although it's not necessarily completely true because at least in the perry plan, if you're a lower income person who support currently paying income taxes, you can choose to continue that plan for you. >> the deficit commission recommended that they redo the tax structure. the jobs plan couldn't get out of the senate when it leads to three democrats that defected from the vote and seven expressed their -- their being displeased with the jobs plan contained. they're going piece by piece. that got rejected, too. the president may not like tax reform but he has to put something forward to combat it. >> sure. absolutely. >> by the time the general pops up anyway. >> people are waiting for it. we have unemployment in this country north of 9%, as you can see right there, people are desperate for a plan that will work and that's why both perry and romney and cain and all the

other candidates that have plans out there. meanwhile, governor perry is blasting governor romney because there's an item in the l.a. times that highlighted the fact that apparently parts of the massachusetts health care law that governor romney signed did offer -- seemed to offer medical aid to illegals in massachusetts but it's interesting because the romney people come out and they say wait a minute, what are you talking about? federal law requires emergency health care for illegals and also they're saying any other changes, blame the current governor, duvall patrick, a democrat, a liberal. he's the guy who instituted it. >> apparently, this cost massachusetts $400 million just last year although it's difficult to know how many illegal immigrants actually benefited from this part of the law because the state ironically does not categorize that. that's a very interesting point that they don't know how many took advantage of it. >> governor perry took a lot of

heat because of what texas does with illegal immigrants. if you're born there, you get to college for in state costs that is basically free. now governor romney is susceptible for this. the plan did not have a plan to prevent illegal coverage for the illegal aliens. now, duvall patrick, the romney campaign came back and said that was his idea but i believe it is in the actual text in 2006 and the fact that it's not addressed in the federal law would kick in shows maybe that is one of the magnets that mitt romney says governor perry put out there to allow illegals to come in. maybe one of those magnets came from massachusetts. >> there you go. from massachusetts to california, sonoma county, they have this new idea. they're pulling over a lot of people that don't have california driver's licenses so they've decided you know what? you've got a mexican i.d.? a mexican consulate identification card? we'll take that.

keep in mind, this is when the police pull them over expecting to see a legal driver's license. i mean, if you live in california, you think you'd have a california driver's license. instead, they pop one out and say look at that, he's from mexico. >> reduce the number of people they actually book into jail for being here illegally and then if you deduce from that, that will also reduce deportatiodeportati. they're going to set up shop to get these mexicans, i don't know how you do that in the united states. offer up the mexican i.d. and make it easier. can't illegals in california get a driver's license anyway? >> i don't think so. >> you don't think so? can't illegals in general in some states get driver's licenses? >> they can, absolutely. >> i don't know why -- they're already ok to get the driver's license. but anyway, now they can show the card issued by the mexican

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>> welcome back. behind the debate and discussions in the race for the

2012 race are the dollars. big republican dollars are in some cases holding their cash back and waiting to back a candidate in the future. what's the holdup? let's talk to bruce who is an iowa businessman and one of the most sought-after republican donors in iowa. he has yet to endorse a presidential candidate. good morning to you, bruce. >> hey, good morning, steve. >> well, the endorsements are flying. why haven't you made one yet? >> well, you know, i think one of the things those of us really like in iowa and in particular now we've got some great candidates and great ideas coming out and actual debate on how we improve the job opportunities in the country and how we improve the economics which is a little different than what we see happening in washington. >> sure. now, bruce, you are one of the guys who famously went to new jersey and tried to get my governor, chris christie to throw his hat into the ring with no success. are you -- first of all, how do you feel about the fact that you were unable to persuade him? >> you can't be always successful at what you try to

do. you know, we appreciated the opportunity. really glad we got to know your governor. great guy. and continues to lead and make a difference in his state and, you know, i certainly appreciate that. >> sure. in the meantime, you've got a field, you know, you've got all sorts of candidates out there right now. you are confident, i understand, from what you have told one of our producers that any number of republicans can beat barack obama in the presidential campaign. >> you know, and just listening to your program this morning, isn't it really refreshing to have new plans that come forward. i think you look to washington and it's very clear what our current president wants to do. he wants to regulate you more and he wants to tax you more and that's want going to create more jobs and a better u.s. economy so a number of the plans that are coming forward from republican candidates and having a debate about that, having a debate about the issues and the difference, you know, i think is important. and that kind of transparency is

a good thing. >> well, speaking of plans, rick perry is coming out later today officially with this 20% flat tax. what do you think about that? >> you know, i don't really know enough about it to comment. i'm looking forward to hearing about that. i think it's no different than governor romney's plan or herman cain's. i mean, having a plan out in the open and having the public actually be able to debate it is really, really a great thing. >> i know all the campaigns are watching you right now because they'd like your money. what's it going to take to get bruce's dough? >> you know, steve, i don't know that it's about the $2500 that i can give a presidential candidate. i think it's more about the process, about iowans, about them being engamiged. they ask the same questions i ask when i have an opportunity to be with the candidates. what's your thoughts? how are you going to improve the country? how are you going to make things better? how are you going to govern, how are you going to follow through on what you actually say rather than just a soundbite that oftentimes happens? >> do you have a date on the

calendar when you're going to go ahead and give your nod to somebody? >> you know, i think in the next couple three weeks, i think, clearly the debate and now as plans are coming forward and there's pressure on candidates to tell us, you know, how you want to govern, what your plans are, what your tax plans are, as that comes about, i look forward to making a decision. i certainly don't want to wait until the nomination happens and then support a candidate. >> when you make up your mind, let us know. we'd love to hear from you. bruce joining us from the beautiful campus of iowa state university in ames. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> all right. straight ahead, some are calling it another solyndra. a truck stop got $400,000 in stimulus money even after it went bankrupt. isn't anybody vetting the government's investments? are you ready for a different kind of beach vacation? the jersey shore house is now up for rent. but it's not cheap! i'm robert shapiro.

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>> more of your tax dollars wasted. just months after giving $400,000 in stimulus cash, a truck terminal in tennessee is now sitting idle. what's worse, days before the truck terminal even received that federal grant, it had already filed for bankruptcy a few days afterwards. why did these failed stimulus projects continue to pop up? congressman phil gingrich is joining us live from d.c. let me correct that. what happened here, congressman, is that this company received stimulus money and then a few days afterwards, they filed for bankruptcy. correct? >> that's correct, gretchen, yes. >> ok, so this is mountain plaza inc. what were they attempting to do with this $400,000 at the truck

stop? >> if you've noticed any of the large stops on interstates, they pull in and don't just gas up with diesel fuel. a lot of times they'll park there for the night and sleep six or eight hours and they have to keep the engines running to either cool themselves in the summertime or heat themselves in the winter time. this would replace that with electricity so that you wouldn't be polluting the atmosphere and it was a good plan. i mean the idea is a good idea. but the problem here is the lack of vetting russian money out the door. this was only 1/10 of the amount of the solyndra loan which i think was $500 million. this was $450,000 but the point is it's money poured down the tube because the federal government or the state government in this case in conjunction with the feds, not properly vetting. not looking at this and realizing there's red flags everywhere, gretchen and yet, our money still went out the door. >> do you have any idea how this vetting process works?

i recall the vice president of the united states, joe biden telling us he was going to be looking after every penny, do you remember that? >> i do remember that. it makes you wonder if the vetting is not more about who gave what to whom, what candidate, bundling of money, how much money, rather than really who has the best system, plays by the rules, regular order as we call it on the house floor, and deserves to get this loan, these loans so that we can go forward with renewable, clean energy. i'm all for that. but when this political process comes in, that's when you screw up. >> congressman, let me ask you this because there was that bundler tied to the solyndra deal, the wealthy man, i believe, from oklahoma who had visited the white house many times. >> george kaiser. >> is there a political connection in this situation in tennessee that you know of? >> there is not. that i know of in this particular situation.

but there are others that went out the door, gretchen, right at, you know, this program, the big program ended on september 30th. so the last day of the month, they had to get another $6 billion out the door or that money went back to the treasury. and so there's several others that went -- there was one, in fact, $1.2 billion and they rushed it out the door and they said oh, no, we've thoroughly vetted it and there's not another solyndra. that remains to be seen particularly people who were involved in these other loan programs and other ventures were big, huge bundlers for obama in 2008. >> i have to get this statement in, the spokesperson said e.p.a. did not require financial or criminal background checks or information to be disclosed on grant applications. as a member of congress, can you do something about this? if in fact that there is going to be more stimulus. i know that you wouldn't vote for it. but is there anything that members of congress can do to make sure that the vetting process is improved?

>> absolutely, gretchen. we can and we will. and i'm not blaming the tennessee department of transportation because he's absolutely right. now, they have gone back and said no more loans are being bundled from the e.p.a. through us unless the proper vetting in regard to criminal record and prior bankruptcies and that sort of thing is done by us in due diligence, but, you know, we're going to continue to study these issues on the investigation subcommittee of energy and commerce chaired by representative cliff stern from florida, and we want to connect every dot before we blame anybody. we're going to make sure we do this thing right. and see where the buck stops. >> all right. congressman, thanks so much for being our guest today. >> thank you, gretchen. >> he was too drunk to drive so he called on star for help. >> couldn't do it. but i didn't really don't want to. >> ok. >> under the influence. >> i can tell. >> so how did that all work

out? then bill o'reilly tells senator marco rubio he's made to be v.p. but the florida senator has something much different in mind. he said it on our show, too. the job he's really begging for coming up. ♪

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>> time for your shot of the morning. gives a whole new meaning to the term house party. take a look at that. >> ♪ have a good time ♪ gonna make you lose your mind ♪ ♪ just wanna see ya ♪ shake that >> i think that's music that goes with it. because the jack-o'-lantern's mouth is actually singing along. >> bedroom. >> same lyrics. >> i'm scared for this house because i wonder if they got a permit. before you know it, it's going to be shut down. >> i know we have blinds in our house but you got that really darkroom. not to be -- >> you see the neighbor up complaining? >> no, what i would do is go to a neighbor's house and then call in to make that person the blame. yeah, i guess he called on you.

called the cops on you again. >> yeah, that house in riverside, california, if you're up -- if that's your house and you're up and watching us, tell us why you did it and what your light bill will be although i think they're using l.e.d. lights that are slightly cheaper but still, that's going to cost you. >> i like it. anyway, as libya celebrates the death of a dictator, the syrian people are still fighting for their freedom against a regime showing no mercy. rena is live for us in jerusalem with more on that story. >> hi, guys. good morning. that's right. with qaddafi killed, tunisia just wrapping up elections, it's hard to imagine that the syrian president assad isn't feeling the heat. in fact, there's a new report out by amnesty international that talks about the climate of fear in syria. and the new report says that they are now using tactics inside of hospitals to deter protesters from seeking treatment there. take a look at this video i want to show you, it talks about the -- it cites in this report that four government state-run

institutions are reporting that wounded protesters faced torture or very bad treatment from hospital workers. one doctor at a military hospital told amnesty international they saw four doctors and more than 20 nurses attacking protesters and these incidents are forcing some of these protesters either not to go to these private -- to go to private hospitals or not seek treatment at all. and despite the lack of media attention that's been given to syria over the past month, increasingly every friday, protesters are still gathering in large numbers trying to bring down president assad's regime. since march, some 2900 people have been killed. but the lack of access to these hospitals is a major violation of international human rights and these days, that's not the only violation the syrian government faces. i'll send it back to you guys in new york. >> how serious is it that we brought our ambassador back? >> very serious. he was looked at by the international community as

someone who put pressure on the syrian government. a lot of people are really upset, wondering if somehow the international focus and attention has been removed with him leaving but i don't think that's the case, guys, with qaddafi gone, it seems like syria will likely be the new focus in the middle east. >> reena, thanks so much. now your headlines. israel agreeing to another prisoner swap. this time with egypt. under the plan, egypt will release a 27-year-old in exchange for 25 egyptian prisoners being held in israel. he has both american and israeli citizenship and was arrested in cairo last june of suspicious of spying. he's never been charged. the exchange could take place as he remember as thursday. -- early as thursday. >> meanwhile, dr. phil mcgraw is paying for rebecca zahiu's body to be exhumed. she is the former girlfriend of a pharmaceutical tycoon.

days before her suicide, his son mac fell down the stairs. zahau found the child's body and she was upset after being told he would die. her family believes she was murdered and wants her body retested for evidence of foul play. >> the fish that you're paying for may not be what you ordered. >> what? >> a "boston globe" investigation found 48% of the fish that customers opened in restaurants and markets was not what they got. does that mean i didn't get grouper last night? a paper hired the company to test the fish. the fish's d.n.a. and found that many restaurants mislabelled cheap fish as the more expensive kind. i think they gave me another kind. >> in cod we trust? >> i guess so. who can you believe anymore? >> a guy from upstate new york busted for drunk driving after using the on star device to call for help. >> i just can't drive my truck home. you can see i'm on the back road here, i could do it. but i really don't want to.

>> ok. >> i'm a little under the influence. >> i can tell. >> well, when police got to the scene, the guy was parked in the middle of the road and then he called on star again because he couldn't open his doors and windows. his blood alcohol content was twice the legal limit. i don't know, though, i mean, i guess it's a good thing that he called in rather than being on the road. now he's going to pay the price for being honest. >> meanwhile, let's talk a little bit about this. perhaps you saw it a couple of days ago that "the washington post" did, a head job on marco rubio and what it did is it said that he embellished his personal story. long before he was born, his parents left cuba and he has in the past misstated the date of their exodus. well, he was on the o'reilly program last night responding to essentially being called a liar. >> they want to say my parents weren't in exile and i misled people about the essence of my personal story. that's not fair. it's outrageous and i wish they

would have corrected their article. i don't think it accurately reflects what i said or what the essence of my story is. >> one thing is clear, when you hear marco rubio, you understand why he was in florida and that's historic and of course, a cuban national hispanic that could be an up and coming republican star, many people thought this could be the year he's tapped as v.p. he was asked that question, if asked, would he serve? listen. >> are you ruling it out right here on "the factor"? >> yeah. >> i want to get this straight, no matter who the nominee is for the republican party, if they say, i'd like you, senator rubio to consider being vice president, you're going to say absolutely not. >> i'm going to say i've been here in the united states senate for about a year. there's things i want to finish here. i want to accomplish things in the senate. >> it's off the table. >> it is. it is. >> it's almost shocking. i can see you in 10 years, maybe even sooner, running for president yourself. >> or having a show here on fox. >> might want to think about

that, senator. the rubio factor. well, i got to get out of here sometime! >> the rubio report, bill. report! >> but here's the thing, marco rubio has only been a senator for less than a year. he's a freshman senator so maybe he's feeling the same feelings that chris christie as governor of new jersey felt, that he doesn't have enough experience and the other point is never say never. if asked, he could still maybe change his mind. and the other thing is i think bill o'reilly was right on there. i think this guy will run for president at some point. so maybe he does -- maybe he wants to gain his experience now and look down the road for that. >> the one question you have for any v.p., can they be president? and he's -- like you said, i'm only a year in. no one knows. bill o'reilly will be joining us next hour at 8:30 eastern time to talk more about that and everything else. >> excellent. meanwhile, when it comes to patrolling our border, he's as tough as they come. so why not send that share of paul babau to tackle our

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in the same house as pauly d. snooki and the situation. all you need is $2500. that's how much it cost to rent the jersey shore house in seaside heights, new jersey accident for one night. it even includes the duck phone all the cast members use. certainly worth the investment. gretchen, steve? >> thanks, brian. you remember him, sheriff paul babeu, the tough talking arizona county sheriff who blasted the obama administration over the botched operation known as fast & furious. >> this is unacceptable. the fact that our own government has given weapons, some of these weapons not only semiautomatic, some transition to fully automatic and 50 caliber rifles, rifles my deputies and our deputies don't have on the street and they put them into the hands of the criminals that we're fighting. >> now, sheriff babeu is launching an exploratory committee to consider a congressional run and the sheriff of arizona's county

joins us live from phoenix. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> why do you want to go to washington? you have your hands full in arizona. >> we do. we're tired of getting punched in the gut out here in arizona. and not only to stand up for the rule of law, have another experience, an army officer, i've had the honor to command soldiers at the border in yuma where we've helped actually reduce illegal entries by 96% so i know a little bit more about border security and what it takes to secure that border than janet napolitano. >> well, i guess you could argue that because you're in that state doing that every single day. now, did you ever have any political aspirations or was it this whole issue of border security that really instilled in you the idea that maybe you would want to become a politician? >> well, in my heart as a patriot, i believe in freedom, personal and religious and everything our constitution protects but i also believe in economic freedom.

and what i see happening to america and 9%, 10% unemployment in our country, in my community there's communities with 20% unemployment. and the answer that we're getting from president obama in washington is more stimulus, more money to borrow and in debt our country and more taxes and i know that's a recipe for disaster and it's going to choke out an already bad economy. i want to reduce taxes and get government out of the way. >> sheriff, a spokesperson for the democratic party down there in arizona has responded and says "it looks like paul babeu hopes to spend even less time as sheriff and even more time on tv than he already does. when it comes to self-promotion, he's an overachiever even if the public has to pick up the tab." how do you respond to the democrat, sir? >> well, i don't think they like fox news but we love fox news. we'll continue to watch and be great fans out here in arizona. we're standing not just for the

rule of law but for america and i'm an unabashed patriot. i believe in american exceptionalism and it's about time that we have leaders in america that say that. that we're proud of our country we're going to put america first and we have soldiers all over the world from germany, japan, 28,000 soldiers in korea protecting, guarding, defending their border. why don't we protect and guard and defend our border for once? >> no kidding. >> he's the sheriff in arizona and he may be a sheriff in washington. sometime soon. sheriff paul babeu, great to see you. thanks so much. >> thanks so much. >> stick around, we're breaking down the top five companies hiring this week. that's coming up next. >> first, on this date in history back in 1983, it was the number one song in the u.s. of a. [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables?

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>> answer to the question of the day is bobby knight. the winner is not -- he came in second, kimberly moser from spencer, iowa, is the winner. now, let's talk about you. if you're looking for a job, we want to help. cheryl casone is here from the fox business network and she's all over this in finding out the top companies hiring the most right now. welcome back. >> welcome. >> where do you want to begin? >> let's start with this, i had the ceo on my show last week. he has 300 jobs to fill. it's health care i.t. it's taking health care records and digitizing and making doctors' offices basically electronic which is a good thing. we want to see that happen. it's more efficient. but the ceo came on my show and i asked him, what are you looking for? are you still hiring? here's what he said.

>> we're hiring right now. we're interviewing midyear college graduates but literally every day at our facilities not only in chicago but in atlanta, around the country, we're hiring but chicago is a big focus for us right now and a big part of that is ron's leadership. >> by the way, it's rahm meaning the mayor. >> the mayor of chicago. >> 300 employees by the end of the year. >> by the end of next year and one quick thing about chicago, i want to say, it's a regional -- this is regional hiring, the city of chicago, rahm emanuel is trying to keep businesses in chicago but the state raised their corporate tax to 7% so a lot of big name companies in illinois might be leaving but they are committed to staying. that's why he came on fox business last week. >> they're looking for management and they hired a general manager, the cubs did. >> did they? i didn't know that. i learn something every day from you, brian. >> fed ex, they plan to hire 20,000 seasonal workers. is that just for the holidays? >> this is an 18% jump from last year. they're expecting at least 10% more volume on the busiest day of the year. this year, they're predicting

it's going to be december 12th. 12 million shipments on that day and you know why they're looking for more people? >> why? >> because they're expecting more on-line shopping for the holiday season so that's kind of a broader economic story here. >> keep the malls quiet. >> transportation distribution shipping, they're based in memphis but the jobs are everywhere. >> you have to be willing to work. that's a tough job. >> number three company for entry level hiring for 2011. >> not only is it a dow 30 company, but they're one of the 30 companies in the dow but they're looking for kids that are not necessarily i.t. graduates. they're looking for kids that have liberal arts degrees, fine arts. they want a broader student that comes in the door and they're looking for 4,250 new graduates this year. they got nearly 200,000 employees worldwide so verizon is huge and, of course, verizon wireless. >> engineering and communication and sales but they are looking for liberal arts students, not necessarily just business students. >> so many of the jobs that have

come in have been technology jobs. >> let's talk about stewart and stevenson. >> this is a very interesting company. this used to be a carriage builder and horseshoe company in texas. they opened up in 1902. now, they're in the oil business. and they're looking for -- here's the range but they're looking for people who can work in the warehouse, manage projects and work on the supply chain. it's oil wells. it's oil well management. it's drilling. they got lots and lots of different locations around mostly in text technicamos mostly in texas. in houston. >> this is the second largest defense contractor in the world. >> i bought this company and bringing it again for a big reason. there's still jobs there. they are building along with northrop gruman, looking for i.t., cyber security and engineers. they have 2300 positions open and a lot of the ceo's i talk to say i've got a lot of jobs open but i'm having a tough time filling them.

a lot of them still is i.t., engineers, computers and you really need to have that to get anywhere near a lot of these companies, even companies, excuse me, even companies that were basically, you know, just a car company, even they in the plants, even g.m. and chrysler are looking for employees who can bring i.t. skills into the plant. it's really changing. >> would be great if they can hook up their own training center so you give people the fundamental knowledge and see if they're coachable. cheryl casone, thanks so much. look for you all over the fox business network. >> noon eastern time is normally where i'm at. that's where i'm going to stay for now. >> you know what? i look forward to seeing you there right now. you never know, you could do other shows. varney & company, he's sick a lot. meanwhile, a familiar face showing up at occupy chicago. but he's no peaceful protester. remember bill ahers who claimed responsibility for a dozen terrorist bombings? see what he's calling for now when lawyura ingraham joining u live. kids, halloween is canceled

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am. >> gretchen: good morning, everyone. hope you're going to have a great tuesday. it's october 25 already. i'm gretchen carlson. an amazing story for you. buried alive for 46 hours this morning, good news. a baby just 14 days old pulled alive from the rubble in that massive earthquake in hurricaney. that's good way to start your morning. >> steve: the president announcing a bold new plan to save the housing market. bail out families. he says we can't afford to wait. but his program not necessarily as advertised. laura ingraham can't wait to explain straight ahead. >> brian: you know i love a good wedding. this one really made me well up. a wedding crasher, a giant wall of dust sweeps in just in time for the vows. you know the term, 'til dust do

us part. >> steve: 'til death do we part. >> brian: i got that wrong. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> steve: all we are is dust in the wind. >> brian: by kansas, which we love. >> gretchen: yes. it was so interesting because if you see the rest of that video, we'll show you what happens as they walk down the aisle. let's start with your headlines. a developing story overnight. former dictator moammar gadhafi buried at dawn at a secret location in the libyan desert. the funeral overseen by a muslim cleric. gadhafi's son buried beside him. the interim government tried giving the body back to gadhafi's tribe, but those talks broke down. we want to update you on that story i was just telling you about out of turkey. they've been at thing you about this 14-day old baby girl rescued alive from the rubble of a collapsed building.

46 hours after it struck, the little girl is now being checked out by doctors. rescuers working to proceed her mother who is still trapped. another rescue to tell you about. a man saved after being stuck in a van under another collapsed building. 366 people have died in this earthquake. 1300 more are hurt. 2,000 buildings destroyed. first herman cain, now another gop candidate embracing the idea of a flat tax. texas governor rick perry will announce today his cut, cap and grow plan. his idea? let americans choose their tax rate. either pay the same rate that you have right now, don't make any changes, or you can opt for a 20% flat tax instead. it would cap federal spending at 18% of the gdp, make some changes to social security, and end the death tax, the estate tax. the official announcement comes later today in south carolina. proof that love really is

blind. a bride and groom in arizona nearly blown off their street during a powerful dust storm. it kicked off as they were about to exchange their vows. >> by the authority vested in me in the state of arizona, i now pronounce you husband and wife. congratulations, you may kiss the bride. [ cheers and applause ] >> gretchen: during that kiss, the groom says he got a mouthful of dust and the bride says, it wasn't easy holding on to her veil and dress, watch what happens. as they come down the aisle, look, it appears as if the dust storm completely clears. still windy, but the dust going away. hopefully they'll have a wonderful marriage in the fewer. >> brian: for more on marriage and does dust play into the stormy relationship between them, let's go to laura ingraham. >> hey, how are you? >> brian: fantastic. we're not really going to talk about the marriage because that's for dr. phil. we're talking about the president's big announcement in

nevada yesterday and he released even more information on it. he's going to the executive order way because the do nothing congress is not helping him with his jobs bill. >> so the president decides to go around congress. we've come to expect this from him. i love the fact that he goes to vegas after he said, we can't just blow money at vegas. but he does it on america's dime. but not surprising coming from him, he wants to intercede to really circumvent what the free market needs to do here and great work on fox business on this, by the way, over the last day or so. but the market really needs to reach a true bottom in real estate. it hasn't yet. i know that's really difficult and i know that's really hard. but the president himself said we all need to sacrifice and if you bought a house that you couldn't weather a 20 or 30 or 40% down turn in, then it probably wasn't a good idea for you and sadly, a lot of people are going to have to lose their

homes. but he wants to put that pain off. that pain has got to come. >> gretchen: in case people are just waking up and didn't hear the plan yesterday what, exact low does he want to do? >> he wants the banks to have to agree to refinance homes as long as there is some history of payment and without regard, however, to future ability to pay. so in my mind, that once again lowers the bar for eligibility for financing, which was part of the problem as we remember, with this whole community investment act push that got us into so much trouble in the first place. again, it goes away from free market fundamentals and goes toward the idea of more government intervention, to prevent a natural bottom not guilty a housing market. that's the problem. >> brian: by the way, he wants to eliminate fees and allow people to take out another mortgage on homes they possibly couldn't afford to begin with. and there are about 5 million people will jump on this called tarp, and about 900,000 did. now they expect a million to jump on it now.

>> like stimulus 1 didn't work. so stimulus 2 is going to work. >> steve: you're not the only one who think this is is a dumb idea. professor was in that chair just about two hours ago and -- >> he's still here. he's whispering in my ear. >> steve: here he is talking about it. all the problems this thing could potential potentially pose. >> it's going to create new problems down the road, either for the next president or himself. freddie mac and fannie mae will be underwriting loans for homes that are worth half of the value for what they loaned the money for. when they're sold, freddie mac and fannie mae will be on the hook, which means we'll be on the hook. likewise, he'll be loaning money to people who simply can't pay it back. >> steve: so there you go. the professor saying that the government essentially is going to force banks to give somebody -- say you have a mortgage of a half a million dollars, but the house is only worth $300,000. who is going to make up the slack if they completely throw

in the keys and decide they're going bankrupt? >> we have to live within our means. the president keeps saying that, but he wants to put that off. it doesn't work. it never works. europe is going through this same deal in a everybody different way. -- different way. the professor was right. fannie mae and freddie mac are part of the problem, started this problem initially. now they're going to be on the hook, meaning this will pass through to the u.s. taxpayers and the banking industry at large. >> gretchen: let's move on to the next topic, which is some people will ask this question after hearing this story: what happened to president obama's no lobbyist promise? we recall he said that when he was running for president, that he was going to copy lobbyists -- keep lobbyist attention out of his administration. and he just hired one for his 2012 campaign, who recently lobbied for wall street banks. not only is he a former lobbyist, but he lobbied for their millionaires and

billionaires. >> this is like those protesters putting their money in a bank. the evil bankers. what's my interest rate? they have to work with the evil doers. it's obama raising money from the hedge fund guys and then decrying them. it all smacks of hypocrisy. we know from the "new york times" about a year ago we found out that there were lobbyists meeting across the street at caribou cafe. i have knew doocy frequents that place. 'cause you like to meet with michelle obama's staff, so you go with them, the lobbyists meet with the white house staff so they don't have to put their names on the white house log. that was revealed about a little over a year ago. this is more of the same, but now i think they're just hiring them and don't care about the hypocrisy charge. >> steve: delicious coffee there. speaking of occupy wall street, did you see bill ahers at occupy chicago? he was actually lecturing the protesters.

listen to this. >> transformation of the head and the heart and then the vote. but i do think that we sometimes get into a trick bag where we're supposed to be somehow seen where someone like barak obama is saying i want y'all to be nonviolent. well, i want you to be nonviolent. >> steve: yeah. >> brian: what's he trying to say? >> steve: getting tips from a member of the former underground. >> is that the same hat he was wearing in 1972? shah chairman mao or the fidel hat. >> gretchen: we should bring up what he did in 1972. >> exactly. remember the fire bombings that ended up causing the deaths of americans and whether underground with its violent task and never in a significant way disavowed that destructive

violence. that's one thing. but interesting there for him to show up. it's like you almost hear the glory days song when he talks. but it's interesting that he's kind of giving this almost explicit criticism of obama on the nonviolence issue. your using these drones and yet you preach nonviolence. that could be good for obama because the last thing he wants is the ghost of bill ahers to pop up during this election. but then again, this whole movement and images like that, it does nothing to move the needle for the democrats in the eyes of most americans who think we really need to be serious about these problems and stop the professional protesting. that doesn't get us anywhere. >> brian: let's talk war on halloween. >> oh, no. >> brian: political correctness is bringing this precious american holiday to its knees. what is your take? >> well, first of all, i was in one of those mega stores yesterday with my kids and i woke up at 4:00 o'clock in the morning 'cause my children were screaming nightmare. so that's when i first think of them. my 3 1/2-year-old.

look, i have two minds about halloween. i think trick or treating is great and put the jack-o-lantern out. now we've gotten crazy. now it's a new christmas. what is it with the pressure to decorate the home for halloween? i mean, i'm not buying into that. >> steve: what about the fact that at some schools, they say, look, we're not going to have the parties. kids aren't going to dress up because it's too distracting? >> did any of you ever dress up in school? >> gretchen: yes, because i grew up in the halloween capital of the world. so yes, my hometown in minnesota, definitely we dressed up in school. luckily my kids get to dress up at their schools and i'm really happy about that. i just don't buy this argument that they're not going to learn for two hours of one day and sudden low our scores of the nation will go down. >> brian: here is why. they say it makes other kids feel bad that don't have one. >> that's silly. >> gretchen: i made my own costume. >> that's ridiculous, 'cause that's more of the crazy multi

culturallism. do i think it's a horrible thing if kids don't dress up and have a halloween parade at school? not really. i think our kids should be doing the things that kids around the world are doing, math, science, different social studies and making sure they're global low competitive because i think some of this stuff is cute and fun for 20 minutes or so, but when it ends up taking up parents volunteering time, the whole day of class and gets other -- i don't know, i think it's a little much. >> steve: it could be the only time of the year where your kid dresses up like hannah montana. >> there are backwards day, saltedy hawkins day. there is pajamas day. okay, i have a war on this school days stuff. >> gretchen: fall, halloween. >> sorry. i think learning is important. >> brian: because you agree with me, i do believe there needs to be changes. >> steve: have a nice halloween. >> i'm dressing up as nancy pelosi. see you monday. >> gretchen: coming up, police

releasing video showing a man emerging from the woods. the night baby lisa irwin disappeared near her home in missouri. up next, the family's attorney will join us live with the new details. >> brian: senator marco rubio tells bill o'reilly he doesn't want to be vice president, but did he say behind the scenes? bill o'reilly here at the top of the hour.

>> gretchen: 16 minutes after the top of the hour. for nearly three weeks, the parents of baby lisa have been living under a cloud of suspicion. watch this video. it shows a mystery man walking two miles from the couple's home at the time of lisa's disappearance. it's putting a new twist now on the case. could this new evidence fine low clear deborah bradley or gentleman emergency roomy irwin? let's ask their attorney who joins me live this morning from rome, italy. good morning to you, joe. >> good morning. >> gretchen: this video was

released. before we get to the time line of events, why did they delay releasing this video until now? >> gretchen, i have no idea. they don't check with us, obviously. so i don't know what they're thinking. i don't know what their thought process is. you would think something like this they would want to get out there as quickly as possible because maybe there are other people who will see it and say, oh, i was around there and i saw something like that. who knows what the reasons are? we're not just getting that much information. >> gretchen: so let's take a look at the time line of that night. this was october 4. i guess this would be the 5 'cause it's after midnight now. the first sighting, 12:15 a.m we're looking at a map in kansas city, missouri. that was close to their home and what did that person see? >> basically all three individuals, separate individuals who have no connection to one another or the irwin-bradley family saw the same thing. basically a man of similar

stature, relatively slight, 140-poundish individual, male white, carrying a baby, you know, an infant baby, less than a year, wearing only a diaper. at 12:15, 2:15, 4:00 o'clock something a.m. in the wee days of october. obviously something is wrong there. from one witness, you say, well, maybe it was one person hallucinating perhaps, or maybe they mistook a bag for a baby. but when you you have three individuals, separate individuals at different locations, a straight line path away from the home as time progress, it's a scary thing and hopefully it starts providing some answers. >> gretchen: it does provide interesting information to this case because all fingers were looking like they were going to be pointing at the family. so 12:15 is the first sighting of the man with the baby. then at 2:15, a man coming out of the woods, you say in a

direct line moving away from the house. then at 4:10, another sighting of a baby with a diaper. does this in some way work for the prosecution, because they could argue if a man has just stolen a baby, why would he be so apparent walking down public streets? doesn't that sort of play into the prosecution's hand? >> well, i want to point one thing out. there is no prosecution. okay? right now, i represent -- i'm a victim advocate. i represent two parents who are missing their now 11-month-old baby. this is a man hunt. if there is a prosecution, i was one of those once. i was a prosecutor. i can't envision any scenario where a prosecutor would argue successfully that they must be guilty because why would some man be so brazen to walk -- deborah bradley is not a 140-pound man. >> gretchen: it's just curious that a man, if stolen had stolen

a baby, they would be walking out? >> okay. but that would employ that the person is mentally deranged because they would be doing something so blatantly obvious. anyone who would steal a baby is a sociopath and sick individual. the most shocking part would be going into someone's home and taking a baby out of a crib. the fact that they're walking brazenly down the road with it is obviously consistent with mental defect. certainly doesn't imply any involvement on the bradley-irwin family. >> gretchen: just looking at all angles. but the video is interesting and the time line even more so. thank you for joining us. >> sure. >> gretchen: next story is going to steam you. two high ranking union officials who worked one single day entitled to millions of dollars in pensions. that story is next. and coming to a college near you, co-ed dorm rooms and co-ed showers. it's all part of a growing trend to make things gender neutral. bull bill, who used to be a

teacher, boy, i bet he has something to say about this. he'll be here live right around the corner.

>> steve: welcome back. it's a dream come true. teach for one day and get a million dollars pension. sounds phony, right? it's actual low the case for two union officials in illinois who substituted for one day and able to count their years as union employees toward a state teachers pension. how request something like that happen? joining us is the foundation and ceo of action foundation, kyle bolson who joins us from michigan. good morning to you. >> good morning, thanks for

having me. >> steve: okay. so these two guys, one of them, the political director for the federation of teachers, could collect $2.8 million if he retires and makes it to age 78. then the other fellow who was a union lobbyist could collect $1.1 million. >> that's right. it's absolutely outrageous. but the reason that this is happening is because you've got unions that are electing politicians and then the politicians are turning around and setting policy for the union. and so really the question here is, we're seeing the democrats now feign outrage at how did this happen? but the reality is the union elected the politicians and now the politicians are looking out for the union. and so what we've got to do is figure out who knew what, when, and try and reverse this. but i think that will be very difficult to do. >> steve: it is an amazing

story. i mean, they had absolutely no teaching experience. they substituted for one day, but they knew that that law was there and luckily for the state of illinois, it's just two guys we're talking about, right? >> no. unfortunately, it's not. there are other teachers that -- other union officials that fall into this category because what is happening is the chicago tribune and wgn have been doing a great job at exposing this and another story was reject mr. weaver, the president of the largest teachers union, was a teacher in illinois public school system. when he left the classroom, he was receiving a $60,000 paycheck. but when he went to the crown, he was receiving over $300,000. that applied towards the pension system and now today he is receiving a $240,000 pension a year. it's absolutely outrageous.

but again, this is what happens when the unions call the shots. they elect the politicians, and frankly, we should expect nothing less. >> steve: cautionary tale. that is just crazy. all right. kyle olson, founder and ceo of action group foundation. thank you for bringing this to our attention. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> steve: he's in michigan. one-day teachers are in illinois. straight ahead, marco rubio says he would absolutely turn down the vice president city if asked to run. but there is a job he would like and bill o'reilly got him to admit that. bill o'reilly is coming up. and it might be coming to a college near you. co-ed dorm rooms, complete with co-ed showers. we're not kidding. they want to be gender neutral out in iowa. bill o'reilly here to weigh in on these stories and so much more as we roll on live from new york.

>> brian: time for your shout of the morning. south african biker with a heart of gold, check this out. while participating in this qualification trial for a race, he noticed something moving in a drainage ditch. he slows down to take a look and realizes it's a calf. lost and looking for help. it takes him a few try, but the biker manages to hop down into the water and put the little guy out. he doesn't stop there. he puts the calf on his motorcycle, drives him down the

road and reunites him with the herd because we were out of calfs. >> gretchen: that is dedication. do we have video of the calf on the motorcycle? >> steve: it's helmet cam, so he would have to be off it. so who would drive it? >> gretchen: all by himself? amazing. he gets him out. we're about about to see the calf go on the motorcycle. oh, my goodness. if he can survive being brought up. >> brian: there you go. those who thought the calf died was wrong. he's with the herd now. >> gretchen: good news. >> steve: all right. meanwhile, we've got headlines on this tuesday morning. today one of our last, most powerful nuclear bombs will be taken apart. it's the only nuclear weapon stronger than the bomb dropped on hiroshima during world war ii. the final components of the bomb will be broken down starting this morning inside a plant near amarillo, texas.

this disassembly, part of president obama's plan to reduce the number of nuclear weapons. >> brian: a setback for florida's plan to require a drug test before getting a welfare check. a federal judge temporarily blocking it. he made a big push to get the law passed. but a judge says it may violate the ban on unreasonable searches. >> gretchen: it's the most wonderful time of the year. airlines raising their ticket prices again as the holidays roll around. they're going up just in time. you have united, delta and continental raising prices as much as $5 each way. airlines tried to raise i can't it prices 20 times this year. they have succeeded ten of those times. usually one does it, the other does it and before you know it, they all do. >> steve: would you give your son or daughter the anthrax vaccine? the federal government is debate building children should be inoculated for anthrax to protect against the possible bioterrorist attack. the vaccine, weakened form of the actual virus, is usually reserved for adults and members

of the military and its long-term effects have never been tested on children. that should be a red flag. special board of expert also make a recommendation on this coming up this friday. >> gretchen: president obama on a west coast glitz and glamour tour, dining at the home of some of hollywood's biggest stars, trying to drum up big cash. steve, you didn't get to go along? you're live at the white house? >> pardon me. >> gretchen: i asked, you didn't get to go along on the trip to hollywood? >> no. ed henry is out there. and here i am pulling white house duty for you. declaring that we can't wait, the president forged ahead yesterday over the housing initiative, the expansion of an existing program that will not need congressional approval. he spoke in the foreclosure capital of the west, nevada. a state that could help the president shore up the electoral support in 2012. he unveiled a plan to allow more people to refinance their homes no matter how far under water

that property might be. he noted it will take more time for the housing market to get back to normal. >> that's no excuse for inaction. that's no excuse for just saying no to americans who need help right now. it's no excuse for all the games and the gridlock we've been seeing in washington. people out here don't have a lot of time or a lot of patience for some of that nonsense that's been going on in washington. >> critics jumped on the president's plan, saying government action is not the way to go. >> we can try these things all day long, but we need to let the free market sift through what is out there. we're going o have to absorb it. we're going to have to bite the bullet before we can recover. >> now from nevada, the president went to california yesterday where he is now. he made a stop in roscoe's house of chicken and waffles in west los angeles, ordering throw wings with a choice of waffle, potato salad or french fries. chatted with the customers there and posed for some cell phone

pictures and today this morning he'll sit down with jay leno for a segment being taped for tonight's show. back to you. >> steve: steve centanni. very, very thorough. not only you told us what his entree was, but what the side dishes were. that is thorough. >> that's right. >> gretchen: thank you, steve. it's time to bring in bill o'reilly who you saw in that shot just a moment ago sitting on the curvy couch. good morning to you. >> brian: his book is number one in the nation and this is our favorite country and it's number one in our favorite nation "killing lincoln." this surprised you. >> it's big in uzbekistan, but they don't know who he is. it did surprise me. i took less money to do this book 'cause it's a departure. i usually write contemporary nonfiction about what's going on in the country. but i'm really worried about america. i don't say that with any kind of hyperbole. we're on a decline. we need to get back to gold standard leadership. i said, who is the best leader we've had?

that's abe happen lincoln -- abe happen lincoln in my opinion. i wanted people to know exactly what lincoln did, exactly how he suffered for doing it so that people -- when we choose our next leader or leaders to come, could have some kind of barometer. >> brian: how about this for a transition? john wilkes booth was once a celebrity, actor, and he was the one who assassinated lincoln in your book. then the president of the united states goes out to the west coast to meet with hollywood celebrities. they include will smith and somebody named james lassiter, a big-time producer, as well as magic johnson. >> wasn't it antonio banderas' house? was he dressed as zorro? >> steve: that's halloween. >> no, in "zorro." if the hollywood guys want to give him waffles and money, that's okay with me. that's the way the system works. >> brian: he said this one was

about hope and change. he said i have gray hair now. this is going to be a long, tough, grinding campaign. i think he's right. >> i think it will be the nastiest campaign in american history. you look back -- it is just going to be ferocious. i don't expect the president and whoever runs against him to be personally nasty, but their surrogate, oh, my god. it's really going to be -- and it's going to be a brawl in the media because the media is going to start attacking each other based upon partisan lines. >> steve: they're not only attacking the guys and gals who might be president, but also who might be vice president. you had marco rubio on your program last night. the. >> the post went after him and i couldn't figure it out. is it a big story that marco rubio's parents came a couple of years before castro took over and then went back under castro and then had to leave again? >> steve: he got the years wrong and they said he was lying. >> this is a page 1 story?

i make mistakes all the time, you guys never do. so it just looked to me like they were looking for something to get rubio because he's a possible vp candidate, although he told me he's not going o do it. >> gretchen: but he's a threat. >> he's definitely a threat to the democratic party. >> gretchen: the republicans would definitely need to win florida. >> yep. >> gretchen: now he made it clear. and he said it on our show that he's not going to be considered. do you think he can turn that around? >> human last night said -- hume said this is the moment, he has to say it. but he looked me in the eye. i would be surprised if rubio accepted a vp. >> brian: i'm tighting with brit hume. >> you are very tight with him. >> brian: one college, in iowa and they are a liberal arts school, progressive, dare i say, and they have a dorm policy, which i think is noteworthy, which essentially says not only are they co-ed dorms, co-ed room, co-ed bathrooms, co-ed locker rooms. would marist ever do that? >> it depends on the tuition.

i think you ought to pay extra for that. >> brian: i thought so! i would have got another job to make that happen. >> gretchen: the headline to the story is apparently they're doing this to assuage the people who are becoming gender neutral. >> look, i just think back to my college days, there wasn't a woman on earth who would want to room with me. >> brian: really frightening. >> all you ladies out there, 18 to 22-year-old guys, no. >> brian: we do have a reaction. this is just in. we just got this reaction from man across the country when this news came out. when we take a look? >> brian: so they seem very pleased. >> people don't know, but immediately after that reaction, the school went all male. >> brian: women ran for the

hills. they said that they discourage any type of sexual relationship. >> oh, i'm sure they do. the dorm monitor, hello? what are you doing in there? we are discouraging. >> steve: tonight you got a big show. you got rick perry live. >> yeah. first time the governor as a presidential candidate. he did come on as a governor. he's coming on the no spin zone. he's going to be here on two segments. we'll see what he has to say. >> gretchen: what are you going to ask him about? >> i can't tell you because then he'll know. >> gretchen: you're on our show! undoubtedly you're going to focus a lot on his new tax plan. his in the tax -- flat tax that gives people a choice. >> i'm gog ask him about that one question, it's boring -- >> gretchen: you think it's boring? >> yeah, i do. once they get into office and they can actually do something about it, then it becomes not boring. but you do want to know what his vision is, his economic vision.

but i'm more interested in who this guy is and how he sees the country, you he sees his opponents and all of that then policy because they can say anything. so you get it out of the way and then you get to the good stuff. >> brian: right. but also you can have mccallum and have him and mccallum do the quiz game. >> steve: i love sitting around for 12 hours waiting for that. >> more people see you then. >> steve: the king of cable tonight, 8:00 o'clock eastern time, and buy his book. it's "killing lincoln." >> thank you. >> gretchen: if europe needs a bailout, will the united states be on the hook? our next guest says you bet. stay tuned for that. >> steve: then they're giving jesus the boot. a memorial to our nation's heros could get torn down because it holds a hint of religion. a large hint. the push to change that coming up on "fox & friends."

>> gretchen: european officials working to get the debt crisis that reached a tentative agement. they're expanding their bailout to fund more than $1.4 trillion. the country's leaders will meet wednesday, tomorrow, to finalize the details. but is taking on even more debt a good idea? will the united states be ultimately on the hook? daniel is with us, a executive british member of the e.u. parliament and author of this book "the new road to servedom,

a letter of warning to america, don't do what europe did" daniel. first off, is bailout the only way out for the healy nations to help the unhealthy nations linked together in. >> no. far from containing the disease, it insures contagion. the answer to a debt problem is not more debt. if a friend of yours cannot pay off his mortgage, can't pay off his credit cards, the last thing you do is force another loan on him. the way out of this is by having less debt, bigheading rid of the liabilities we already have and that's going to involve default and eventually breaking up europe. >> brian: breaking up the euro. i also know, you're a member of the british european union, they have their own currency. there's a big push right now in britain to even break away from the e.u. how serious is that? >> if it went to the country in a referendum, i think there would be a strong vote to leave the european union. this is one of those many issues where the politicians are on one side and everybody else is on the other side.

part of the reason is that the politicians do very well out of it one way or the other. but eventually you will have to swim with the current of public opinion in a democracy. you can't ignore forever the voters. >> brian: how does this link to us here in america? are we going to be on the hook to bail out? should we bail out? >> your president has -- he keeps offering and saying, we're happy to help out and the ims fund is being expanded and the u.s. is the single biggest contributor by a long way to that fund. but to repeat, you do not help an indebted friend by pressing more loans on him. if you really want to help -- the best thing you can do, you can get on top of the debt crisis in the u.s. the world depends to a much greater degree than anybody likes to admit on the success and at the timetiveness of the american economy. and if you really want to help us, you can start growing again and that means living within your means and having a sustainable growth without all this government spending. the rest of us will all benefit from that. >> brian: thanks so much.

a perilous time and tomorrow, we're all going to be watching to see what the solution will be. daniel, executive british member of the e.u. and author of "the new road to serfdom." thong. when we come back, should jesus get the boot? one man hoping to change that, but first let's check in with martha mccallum and find out what's on her show. >> i just learned from that, brown? i'm not going oleander you anymore money. it's not healthy. >> brian: can directly talking to our relationship. i understand it's for my own good. >> it is. i will see you later. we'll talk about that. coming up, rick perry 2.0. can he reboot his campaign? brit hume had colorful things to say about perry's debate performances. and testing anthrax vaccines on children. why the administration is considering that and why do we give foreign aid to china? bill and i join you at the top

of the hour. we'll see you then.

>> steve: has been a part of a world war ii memorial for nearly 60 years. but the statue of jesus right there may soon be removed because one group says it violates the separation of church and state. >> gretchen: montana congressman is fighting for the statue to stay put and he joins us now live from washington, d.c good morning to you, congressman. >> good morning. >> gretchen: looking at the history of this statue. i guess it hasn't been a problem for, what, 60 years? it was put up in 1953 and the people who put it up got one of those permits. they've renewed it every ten years. so what's the problem? >> it's 25 by 25 feet. it's not a problem. we have one group in wisconsin by the name of freedom from

religion that think there is a hint of some religious aspect. what it really is is a testament to our world war ii veterans and we're outraged. we need a lot of help. the forest services backed off. they said they're willing to reconsider the issue, so we need people from all over the country to say enough is enough. let it stay. >> brian: am i to understand this is heading to court right now? >> no. they backed off. the forest service was not going to renew the lease and so they said, we will take comments from the public. that's why we're putting out the national call. we set up a web site called veterans jesus.com. we hope people from all over the country will write or call or do whatever is necessary and the forest service does listen to comments. so we're in the comment phase at this time. >> steve: i understand, congressman, it's one thing you give the forest service goes, we've got all these complaints from people who are really bothered by it. from what i have read, nobody has complained. >> no. they're afraid of a lawsuit and isn't that just the way it is

with defensive medicine today, whether you're talk being medicine or something else. people are afraid of being sued. we should not cower on this kind of a situation. this is honoring the world war ii vets and really, everybody ought to be outraged. it isn't just world war ii. it was vietnam. when you look at the view, did you see what was in back of the jesus statue? a wonderful valley and it overlooks a free nation and our veterans gave it to us and we ought to honor them by doing the very thing we're asking and that's making comments. >> gretchen: here is a statement from the group wan freedom from religion foundation. a catholic shrine is not an appropriate memorial to all veterans such as jews and atheists. it would send a message of exclusion and of impermissible governmental preference for christian veterans and in particular catholic veterans. >> it's on a ski run. it's 25 by 25. and just because it's maintained and put up by the knights of

columbus does not make it a religious statement. it's nothing more than a testament to our freedom in this nation. and thank you, knights of columbus, for doing that. we really need to hear from americans. let's just tell the forest service leave it. it didn't create a problem until this one group in wisconsin complained. >> steve: the web site is? >> www.veteransjesus.com. >> steve: congressman, thank you. >> gretchen: what do you think about that? let us know p that and we'll link that web site to ours. "fox & friends." we'll be right back.

>> steve: tomorrow on the program, rudy. not rudy guiliani. the guy who played rudy in the movie, sean assisten will be with us. >> gretchen: also nancy o'dell will be here and