advisors wn you have bill o'reilly? >> with all due respect, can i tell you a mistake i think you made? >> sure. >> all right. >> see how this one plays out when rick perry entered the no spin zone. we'll look back so you can look ahead. "fox & friends" starts just about now. >> still in the green room from the bill o'reilly show. by the way, folks, men in particular, as you go to work today, wear a yellow necktie. as you can see, it's already catching on here in studio e. >> absolutely true. herman cain, wherever you are, i know you're wearing it. >> this note to terrell owens, wear a shirt. >> i thought it was a clause. >> we're pro gold. that's where you should put your money in unsafe times.

>> former goldman-sachs director will surrender to the f.b.i. the 62-year-old is accused of leaking inside information to convicted hedge fund boss. there's evidence he tipped off his boss to warren buffet's $5 billion cash infusion in goldman-sachs in 2008 at the height of the financial crisis. his lawyers maintain he's innocent. first solyndra and now fisker. republicans are asking on congressional investigators to expand their probe of the green energy loans to include the company fisker. it's building luxury cars in finland but received money from the government. here's what happened in oakland, california, police and occupy oakland protesters got into nasty clashes. officers in riot gear used tear gas to break up the crowds. police ended up arresting more than 100 people and in georgia, police arrested more than 50 occupy atlanta protesters.

they refused to leave a park even though the mayor revoked an order to let them stay there after hours. spoiler alert right now, we're about to show you who got kicked off "dancing with the stars" last night. >> chaz and lacy. >> wow, kind of a shocker. chaz bono got the boot. he struggled from the beginning and got the lowest scores from the judges the night before. >> he was forced to wear a mask. >> i came on this show because i wanted to show america a different kind of man and i know that if it was somebody like me on tv when i was growing up, my whole life would have been different so i dedicate everything i did to all the people out there like me -- >> next monday is the "dancing with the stars" halloween show. and those are your headlines. >> by the way, isn't it true that hope solo's partner, because my life is empty and i saw some of this, yelled at the judge for giving him -- who said

that -- who said that it was the worst dance he's done of the season. >> then told len goodman who has been in the business for 50 years maybe he should get out. >> which is always a good recommendation. i get that daily. >> tangling with the stars. speaking of the stars, the president of the united states was out in hollywood yesterday. he had been scheduled to show up at the jay leno show. there he is in the jay leno burbank studios. you probably didn't realize this. but it's a good thing that the jay leno show is taped, the presidential motorcade got stopped in traffic on highway 101. they were 10 minutes late. within moments, they were yucking it up and talking politics. listen. >> when mitch mcconnell says our goal is to make this guy a one term president. i mean, why is -- does that anger you? how is that a goal? >> well, look, i think the thing that folks across the country are most fed up, whether you're democrat, republican, independent is putting party ahead of country or putting the next election ahead of the next

generation. i'm going to wait until everybody's voted off the island. >> really? >> once they narrow it down to one or two, i'll start paying attention. >> that second question was who -- what do you think about the cast of candidates that want your job? and he said he's going to wait until -- >> that's not exactly true because they put out a press release yesterday, the white house, talking about the other plans that the republican candidates are putting out. remember, they put out like a three page response to herman cain's -- to mitt romney's 59 point plan and to governor rick perry's 20% flat tax plan. so maybe the president isn't watching the debates, wink, wink, but the people in his administration are. >> i think that was the second question but the first question actually if you read the transcript what jay leno said was i didn't like when they did it to bush and i don't like when they did it to you. the goal is to make you a one

term president but mitch mcconnell said that one time and it's been used almost for ads for democrats to say he's not keeping his eye on ball. you can make a strong argument in reality away from entertainment that the whole jobs bill shows it was about party, not country. >> one of the things about the jobs bill is joe biden famously went out there and used some scare tactics. unless you pass this thing, rape is going to increase and murders are going to continue across the country. have you wondered why joe biden has in the words of michael goodwin today in "the new york post" been a jerk lately and hillary clinton has been a good soldier? he suggests that they are out to switch jobs. they're auditioning to switch jobs. joe biden would take secretary of state and hillary clinton would become the vice president, might help obama come 2012. >> might help obama but it's never going to happen. i mean, it might help obama, many people were stunned when he chose her as secretary of state. they'd be even more stunned. i don't think he likes her that much, quite frankly. she's doing a great job by many people's assessment and many

people think she's one of the most important people in his entire cabinet. isn't it the job of the vice president to be kind of the bad guy? i mean, i think it was a strategy last week to put vice president biden out there saying those things. it's not like many times he's made gaffes but i don't think those were gaffes last week. i think that was part of the strategy. >> i think you're right. one thing is clear. president obama and vice president biden have gotten closer and not further apart. they're extremely tight. that very question was brought in by journalist jay leno last night. >> joe biden is not only a great vice president but he has been a great advisor and a great friend to me. so i think they're doing great where they are. and, you know, both of them are racking up a lot of miles. joe tends to go more to pittsburgh, hillary has gone to karachi. but, you know, they both have important work to do. they're doing great. >> meanwhile, while michael

goodwin says they might be switching jobs, this morning, marchi margaret carlson is writing in bloomberg saying the president would be crazy to replace mr. biden. how would dumping biden improving biden's standing? moving him to state would introduce risk into the electoral equation without promise of reward. he's done everything he's asked to do and done it well. this veep is a keeper. >> hillary clinton has made it clear one term and out. >> she's tired. >> it's emblematic of what he said there. she's in karachi, she's far away from him. that's where she likes him to be. let's talk about rick perry's plan. that was the big news yesterday that he had then -- he had come out with his sort of flat tax approach to the american economy after herman cain brought out his 999 plan so he was on the o'reilly factor last night and he was asked a whole segment about that plan. one of the questions was what will it do to the national revenue? because there are a lot of tax

deductions -- >> less money. >> less money coming in for the government. it seemed as if governor perry didn't know exactly what the answer was. see if you can figure it out. >> how much would the feds lose in revenue under your plan, governor? >> well, i don't really worry about what the feds are going to lose. what i'm worried about is getting people back to work in this country because the fact of the matter is the spending problem is what we've got in this country. i'm looking at a tax process that will allow people to keep more of their money because we know what happens when job creators get to keep more of their money than they have the confidence to go out and expend that money to create jobs that in turn create wealth. and that's what we got to do in this country. we have to build the confidence back in this country. >> that's an answer he really should have had and charles krauthammer was on the o'reilly program right after and he said he's kind of surprised he did not know. >> how could he?

if the american people are told they have a choice, how do you know where america -- what we're going to say? i mean, the obvious question would be i'm going to do the thing that's going to allow me to keep most of my money. >> have a best case and worst case scenario. say if tax revenues are up, it will be this much and if tax revenues are down, you'll have this much. just not to know, that's a little unsettling. >> would there be a flat tax talk if herman cain didn't do the 999? technically this is in response which is why many people say mitt romney can't possibly go along with the flat tax. he's already released his. rick perry was holding his close to the vest. >> the man who ran the club for growth, on the heels of the cut, balance and growth plan, mitt romney has to come up with something bold, something on par with that. keep in mind, newt gingrich has come out with a flat tax as well. >> i think the bigger discussion is we're even discussing these kinds of plans. i mean, brian brings out it had not been for herman cain, we really wouldn't be having this discussion of serious reform. so what do you think out there in the audience? you know, do you believe that we

need this kind of serious reform? the critics say it's never going to happen anyway. they say unless -- let's say that a republican is voted into president, you have to have a republican congress to get anything passed. critics are saying this is all pie in the sky, it will never happen anyway. >> 60 votes in the senate, i would say the odds makers will say the republicans will probably keep the house and have a great job at the senate. you need those votes and keep in mind, a conservative columnist said this is all a farce. it's a carnival. why even bring it up tax plans? why don't you do the things that are going to affect the american people and they're more practical. >> sure. you know, rick perry had gone for a couple of months without sitting down on the bill o'reilly show. he did last night and one of the things that bill o. is famous for is asking tough questions and making tough statements. here is bill o'reilly telling mr. perry the big mistake he made. >> with all due respect, can i tell you a mistake i think you made? >> sure. >> all right.

immigration deal, i think that hurts you among tea party people, conservative americans because it's a very strong emotional current that the american worker is getting hosed by the federal government and part of that is that illegal aliens and their children are getting benefits like in-state college tuition in texas. and when you said, hey, depriving those children of that education is heartless, a lot of conservatives said you know what's heartless? taking my tax money when i'm struggling and giving it to people who shouldn't be here. >> i think that was a mistake. >> i agree with you that i used the wrong word there. this is an economic issue. here's the bigger problem is the federal government has been a total and abject failure of securing our border. >> simple maya culpa. >> he went on to say he believes that's a federal problem and the federal law really isn't enforce the so again, this is an issue for you to be the judge on. >> keep in mind, i can't

believe it. i'm shocked by this. cbs did a poll after the last debate. he's in single digits. he's behind ron paul right now. it goes herman cain, then goes mitt romney and then newt gingrich. >> you think a lot of people were disappointed in the last debate where when asked about his plans, he goes, you know, i'm coming out with it real soon. finally we've come out with -- we've heard the plan and, you know, it is a bold plan. i would imagine his polling numbers do wind up going up in the coming weeks. >> well, we'll find out. we only have two hours and 15 minutes to go over it. >> and two months before any vote comes in so there's always time. look at, we've seen herman cain come from the top at nowhere. you never know what's going to happen. >> a 5-year-old's plea to police. >> my mom's car backed out on accident and i need the police to pull my mom's car back in. got to get here quick! >> i got to get there quick. >> or my mom is going to be pissed at me. >> the rest of that story ahead.

>> then a major provision of obamacare could slash doctors' pay by 30%. have you heard about this? why would anyone want to be a doctor? dick morris is not a doctor. he'll play a pundit next. looking good! you lost some weight. you noticed! these clothes are too big, so i'm donating them. how'd you do it? eating right, whole grain. [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios... five whole grains, 110 calories.

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bestseller "revolt" dick morris, welcome back. dick, what should we know about this that's different from obamacare? >> well, this is the implementation of obamacare. this is an agency called the medicare payment advisory commission. advisory is really a misnomer. it's the law. the decisions of this commission do not have to be ratified by congress. they can be overridden by congress but they don't have to be ratified and they are imposing this. they have decided that they will cut reimbursement for specialists by 16% over three years. and then freeze those payments for seven more years regardless of inflation so if you have about a 3% a year inflation rate, that's 30% plus the 16% comes to almost a 50% pay cut for specialists. for general practitioners, there's no cut but there's a

10-year freeze regardless of inflation. and again, if you assume inflation at 3% a year which is very low, that's a 30% cut. >> right. >> so what it really is going to do is cut the pay of specialists in half and primary care doctors by a third. >> it's going to rock the medical world big time. who is going to want to be a doctor go rocketing into debt and then find out that this is what you're going to be paid back. almost like social work. >> it's not just that, it's going to force doctors out of the medicare program. they're going to say no, i'm not going to take medicare patients and the result is that if you're on medicare, you probably can find a general practitioner but if you have cancer, you're never going to see an oncologist. if you have heart disease, you're never going to see a cardioologist. >> because they're not going to get paid and they're not going to show up. rush limbaugh was out yesterday talking about why the white house wants to run against mitt romney. listen. >> i know that the white house is eager to run against romney

the way he's running around defending romney care. you know, they're out there saying that romney care is the foundation of obamacare. and that's a problem for them. but if the architect of obamacare is the republican nominee, they like that. >> do you agree? >> no, no, i think that romney is the one they least want to see because he probably is more broadly acceptable to the independent voters. that's why they're attacking romney but let's get back to the medicare thing. this literally threatens the whole future of our health care because medicaid will probably follow and then the insurance companies will follow. you're going to have fewer doctors, more rationing. you'll probably see nurses and physicians assistants instead of doctors and most importantly, you won't get to see a specialist even if you have a serious illness. on my web site dickmorris.com, i have a petition to overturn these cuts so i'd urge people to do it. >> go to dickmorris.com.

>> dick morris is sticking around. he calls it one of the best laws in the country but it's about to be repealed. what's that about? he'll explain. he couldn't get re-elected so he's getting even instead. this ex-congressman is suing. is that even legal? we are building a website by ourselves. [ woman announcing ] there's an easier way. create your own small-business site... with intuit websites. choose a style, customize, publish and get found... from just $7.99 a month. get a 30-day free trial... at intuit.com. yeah, maybe not. v8 v-fusion juice gives them a full serving of vegetables plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. v8. what's your number?

>> up already, we have some headlines for you. two more amazing rescues out of the country of turkey. search team have pulled a 17-year-old teacher and an 18-year-old student out alive. both were trapped under rubble since the 7.2 earthquake hit turkey on sunday. death toll stands at 450, thousands more are injured. while you were asleep, boeing's very first dream liner to carry commercial passengers landed in hong kong. that is so cool.

boeing's big eco friendly jet arrived in the skies three years after it was scheduled to and today it took off late as well after a delay in tokyo. nonetheless, the 787 dream liner is in the sky. >> the law that limits collective bargaining for unions in that state under fire now. democrats and unions are spending big bucks to try to overturn the anti-union bill and according to a recent poll, a majority of voters currently favor a repeal of the law by a 57-32% margin. >> he balanced his budget and now ohio wants to stop it. if the law is repealed, what type of impact will it have on the quality of education in ohio and even around the country? >> we continue our conversation with dick morris. what do you think about sb-5 as it's known in ohio? >> before we do that, i want to point out flying 22 hours to hong kong from new york is a nightmare, not a dream.

>> i think that this is a terribly important issue. a week from this coming tuesday, two weeks from yesterday, there will be an issue on the ballot in the state of ohio to repeal what's called senate bill 5 which is one of the most important and positive pieces of legislation to emerge in any state this year. it specifies that the local school board can decide who to give tenure to and who not to give tenure to. it says they can pay teachers based on merit and not based on seniority. expand school choice and lets parents decide where to send their children to school. it says if there are layoffs, they do not have to be in order of seniority. they can be based on merit and test scores of the student. it's a great bill that also makes union members pay more of their own pensions, more of their own health insurance and it also says that the collection of union dues will not be mandatory but will be up to the union members to whether they

want to pay it or not and the unions are fighting like crazy to gut this law. >> but it's amazing -- >> at the moment, they're winning. at the moment, they're winning. >> by a big margin, i'm surprised by this because this is the centerpiece of governor kasich's whole idea of balancing the budget. mitt romney declined to offer an opinion on this controversial ballot issue. is that because he's from michigan where unions are so important with the car industry or is it just a general politician not wanting to pick sides knowing that ohio, michigan are such important states down the road? >> well, i'm surprised that romney didn't endorse it. he should have endorsed senate bill 5 and i guess he's just being cautious about injecting himself into a state issue. but the key thing about senate bill 5 is if it's aconfirmed, if that law is not repealed, it will send a signal across the country to proceed with education reform.

if it's vetoed and the voters override it, every state will back away from these incredibly positive education reforms that they pass. >> right. >> the union is trying to say it's about jobs and workers' rights. kasich is trying to say it's about balancing the budget. i don't think either of them is right. what it's about, the most important parts of this bill are education reform. and you're not going to achieve it unless you can limit the power of the teachers union to tell you how to run your school. >> if they reject this, they'll have to find another way to get revenues because other things are going to be cut. governor perry did not have a problem saying he's firmly behind sp5 so he put himself into that state issue. dick morris, always great to see you. i'm going to reread "revolt" in a tribute to your appearance. >> thank you. >> when you're 5 years old and you make a bad decision. who are you going to call? ghostbusters. >> got to get there quick. my mom is going to be pissed at me. >> why this kid needed help before mom got home.

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>> ♪ would you like to see something strange ♪ ♪ come with us and you will see ♪ ♪ halloween ♪ halloween halloween ♪ >> can you imagine living next door to that house in riverside, california? now, they're putting on a light show to "this is halloween" from "the nightmare before christmas." the owner used thousands of strobe lights and hand carved pumpkins to create the perfectly timed holiday display. you have to figure the person is also a computer whiz to do that. >> that's amazing. i'm so glad that house is not in my neighborhood. for the past couple of years, my kids have been begging me to have more elaborate decorations. mommy, can we look like such and such's house? oh, my goodness. i have a lot to live up to. if that house was next door to me, oh! >> at my house, we're not allowed to celebrate halloween.

>> your three kids can come over to my house. >> they're gonna have to. i'll get the shuttle bus. >> nice street to trick or treat. >> firmly against halloween. >> tell folks about the good news at the white house. the healthy snacks could be going bye the by. >> good news for taffy. >> good news, bad news. there's a democrat in ohio by the name of steve dryhouse. after two years in congress, he was defeated and returned home. he did not, however, go back to ohio but he has decided to get even and he is suing the susan b. anthony list. he says that their public statements amounted to a malicious lie that contributed to his defeat. >> i don't know, is this a sore loser situation? i guess so. the people are the ones that put you in office or don't. and this, i think, is what gets people angry about litigation in general and the overuse of the

system that we have in place to utilize our country. is this on the extreme side? he claims this led to his loss of livelihood. yeah, he's no longer an elected official but i'm not sure that's exactly why he's not. >> and if you look at that footage, i think he gives a clue as to why he's not successful and if other people try to run for office, you do not hand purple cups to people and expect them to vote for you and weave been over this. >> look, ok, good, i'm not voting for him. >> we should point out -- >> you know that goes right in the garbage. what do you do with a purple cup? >> the reason he's suing the susan b. anthony list is they're a pro life group and he voted for the president's health care reform that did not have any pro life protections in it. what's interesting is this has already started the litigation process and the judge in the case is saying it could go forward. when you look at this particular judge, this judge used to be the head of planned parenthood. conflict of interest? you betcha.

is it going to go any further? stand by, we'll keep you posted. >> a judge in florida got the go ahead to consider islamic law in his court. earlier this year, judge richard nielsen drew a lot of criticism for saying that sharia principles were valid in settling a money dispute at a local mosque. that ruling was challenged. today, the challenge thrown out. a lawyer for the mosque called this a big win for them and a victory for the judge. > au >> new developments this morning in the case of missing 11-year-old lisa irwin. they want their parents to agree to separate interviews. they have a tough list of questions that still need to be answered and would like to be able to talk to them separately. lisa has been missing since october 4th. >> "60 minutes" anchor andy rooney recovering from serious complications that developed after he had minor surgery. he's 92 and a tv legend and he ended his 33-year run on the show just three weeks ago.

rooney's family isn't saying what the initial surgery was for. >> a 5-year-old girl in ohio took matters into her own hands after she got home from school and couldn't find her mom. she decided to get into the family car to go find her before making a desperate call to 911 for help. listen to this. >> get off the bus and your mom wasn't there? >> but i know she's gone and i miss her so much! my mom's car backed out on accident and i need someone to pull my mom's car back in. i see the lights on. >> you see the lights on? >> and the car is staying on running out. >> the car is -- >> got to get here quick! >> my mom is going to be pissed at me. >> it turns out the girl's mom was taken to the hospital earlier that day for reasons not being disclosed. she did leave a message for her dad to pick her up from school, that little girl, but he never

got that message. i guess i'm -- i guess we're assuming the kid knew how to turn on the car. and that it backed out. i don't know. >> sounds like it. >> it sounds like -- >> at least the kid knew how to call 911. >> meanwhile, let's take a look. hurricane rina picking up speed off the caribbean coast -- as you can see, nearing the yucatan. what's going to happen is currently maximum sustained winds of 110 miles per hour. what's going to happen over the next couple of days rather than impacting the yucatan and mexico, it's going to take a hard right and by early monday morning could be impacting portions of florida but only with winds about 50 miles per hour. that's a quick look at the fox travelcast and hurricane rina. >> talk about being singled out. a new proposal after 30 years replaces the dollar bill with a dollar coin. >> the plan is gaining currency within the congressional super

committee charged with reducing the nation's debt. is it a viable option? stu varney is here to explain. it's my understanding that the super committee is looking at this pretty seriously and they're saying that we could possibly save as a country $6 billion if we get rid of the $1 bill and go to the coin. how? >> you sound enthusiastic about it. >> i'm trying to gwyin it up he. >> i'm not sure that the super committee is seriously considering going to the dollar coin. they're deliberating in absolute secrecy. not much has slipped out. along come the lobbyists and say, wouldn't it be a good idea if we had a dollar coin? we could save, they say, $5.6 billion over 30 years because we don't have to print stuff. we don't have the paper and the coin lasts longer. would you accept it? if it was a dollar coin? would you accept it? >> i wouldn't. >> it's not going to disrupt my sleep. we're in a totally different circumstance right now based on the last time around. people want -- most people want to try to cut the debt so i'm not sure they really care about the dollar bill. >> you come up with this number

$5.6 billion in savings over 30 years. a, that's not very much money. and that is proposed savings. and that number comes from a lobbyist. isn't this a classic case of the lobbyists jumping in? the super committee is deliberating. you don't sound convinced. >> that you don't want to see any reduction in the debt. >> what's that got to do with it? >> what's the difference between -- why do you love the paper bill so much? >> it's not that i love the paper bill so much. you're having a go at me this morning. it's not so much that i love the paper currency. it's that i don't trust a figure of $5.6 billion in savings over 30 years. and there are all kinds of people lining up against a dollar coin, you know? i mean -- >> when we had the susan b. anthony dollar coin, that didn't take off. people thought it was a quarter. >> right, exactly. it didn't take off. still out there. i'll give you an example. in the 1960's in britain, they introduced a new coin, ok? a big, new coin.

it has eight sides to it. people didn't like it. they rejected it and you know what they called it? they called it a wilson after the name of the prime minister of the day. it was a losing coin and the people didn't like it. what happens if you issue a new dollar coin and people don't like it. you think they call it an obama in which case it's never going to happen. >> they call it an edsall. >> i'm all for that. >> i'm suggesting we're in a different time right now and people are looking for ways in which to save -- >> you would accept a dollar coin? >> yes, i don't have any problem with it. >> let's open it up to our vast viewing audience. would you accept a dollar coin if dollar bill went bye or do you like to feel it in your hands. when brian goes down the place a block from here, he always has a bunch of dollar bills. >> that would be problematic for that. >> only when i want to celebrate a certain occasion. >> exactly right. >> maybe it's a gender thing. i don't know. let us know. >> we'll catch you today at 9:20 eastern on fox business. >> it's all about dollar coins

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cash. and gifts aren't against the law. good luck with that. rocker steven tyler floored by a bad case of food poisoning. the aerosmith front man collapsed in the shower inside his hotel room in paraguay. he reportedly hit his face, landed on his face and lost two teeth. the spokesperson says tyler fell because he was dehydrated but he'll be back on stage tonight. i assume in paraguay. gretchen has more. >> that's quite a toss. thank you, brian. listen up, ghosts and goblins, we know that halloween falls on october 31st. it's been that way forever. if one connecticut lawmaker gets his way, halloween would permanently be moved to the last saturday in october. do you think this is a good idea? stepping on tradition or is it the right thing for government to be involved in? rob cane is connecticut's state senator and joins me now. good to see you. >> good morning, gretchen. >> i'm a resident of connecticut as well with two small children. i know you have two small children. you plan to be out trick or treating on halloween?

>> i will be. it's a lot of fun. we look forward to it. >> your beef with whole thing. i think some parents wouldn't be opposed to moving halloween for the convenience factor. >> it's not about the idea. it's about a government overreach, you know, in connecticut we have 9% unemployment, the highest tax burden in the country, the highest energy costs in the country and we're talking about moving the day of halloween? we should be talking about getting people back to work. getting the economy going, creating jobs or atmosphere to create jobs, not discussing which day we should be handing out trick or treat candy. >> so you believe that a state senator, tim larson's attempt at bringing this discussion into the legislature is not the right thing to do and here he is right here. i want to read a statement for you. saturday allows for events during the day as well as an earlier start to trick or treating. this would be good for the economy and make halloween a more family friendly event every year. now, he is bringing the economy into his statement. do you see any relevance for the government then being involved in that way? >> no, i don't. we're talking about one particular industry.

why don't we talk about super bowl sunday and moving that to a saturday could people are more productive on monday? you could talk about a whole host of things. it all comes back to the core that government should not be involved in people's lives as much as we are and in connecticut, we seem to be expanding that more and more and that's, i think, a real heart of the issue. >> today, you have a special jobs session. it will not be introduced today. >> no, not at all. we're talking about business tax credits. we're talking about lowering the business tax, we're talking about creating economic development zones around airports and talk about manufacturing credits and a whole host of things that are real economic drivers that will really get people going. not, you know, candy and trick or treating. >> hypothetically let me try to work this through the process, then, let's say he does introduce it in the next session in january and say it's voted in. what does it become, a state law, what does it become that halloween is on the last saturday of october. >> we're talking about something

that's celebrated across the country and why make it different for the state of connecticut but i don't see it going very far, no. but again, it just goes back to the issue of this democratic legislature, the majority having the wrong ideas and trying to overstep its bounds in our government and overstep its bounds in people's lives. >> when you you go out monday, what kind of candy do you hope to get? >> i like snickers, i prefer them. >> ok, hope you get a lot of them. good to see you this morning. >> thank you. >> thank you. are these big share the wealth rallies like the ones on wall street a coordinated effort? well, something promoting socialism? our next guest thinks so and it will weigh in on that and then the president's new message if he loses, you're on your own, america. is his campaign using scare tactics to win support now? we report, you decide. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu uss chose prego.

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>> the occupy wall street protests around the country are being called a grassroots movement. our next guest says not true. it's a well planned activity by radical groups with ties to the white house. aaron klein is the author of "red army, the radical network that must be defeated to save america" and he joins us right now. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> who is the red army? >> i'm talking here about the radical socialist element that i think infiltrated and i document in the book "red army" along with my co-author infiltrated the democratic party to the highest levels, whether the white house or progressive caucuses in the white house introduced legislation.

i'm talking here about the kind of michael harrington socialist boring from within ideology of not only attacking the government from the outside but also from within and actually we document in the book how they helped to craft obamacare and the stimulus bill. they're all over. this kind of radical -- >> you're talking red army and talking socialism and not communi communism. >> i'm talking socialism. in some ways that's led in the past towards communism but massive government control, really taxing the middle class in a marge way. >> what's the connection to the red army and occupy wall street protest? >> it's really all over and it's hard to believe that somehow spontaneously -- >> you don't think they were spontaneous? >> it's very difficult to believe somehow they came and started to implement ideology to the tee, in the book "red army" we document the radicals behind the occupy wall street. >> who are they? >> for example, you have steven

lerner who is an agitator and extremely well versed in this kind of ideology and they're using his tactics of blocking bridges as the templates and they talk, by the way, about wisconsin and how that was the template for what became occupy wall street. well, actually one of the main agitators in wisconsin is called the midwest academy. they're a kind of radical network that was funded in the past by barack obama. >> speaking of barack obama, he was on the jay leno show last night and talked a little bit about occupy wall street and he said, you know, they're just a bunch of people who are fed up. here's the president. >> people are frustrated. and that frustration has expressed itself in a lot of different ways. it expressed itself in the tea party and it's expressing itself in occupy wall street. people in leadership whether it's corporate leadership, leaders in the banks, leaders in washington, everybody needs to understand that the american people feel like nobody is looking out for them. >> that's bad if you're the

president and people across the country feel that way. so you say the occupy wallet wall organization has ties to the white house. >> we can go back to barack obama in the 1990's when he was on the board of something called the woods fund which was a chicago nonprofit and he channelled money to the midwest academy which is right now training unions on how to use the economic crisis to agitate this kind of chaos. >> you're not suggesting that the red army is sending messages to the president of the united states telling him what to do. >> when i say red army, we're talking about the socialist element of the democratic party that i believe every democrat needs to be frustrated about that their party has been hijacked by this kind of ideology. by the way, he also helped to fund the tide center which ad busters and actually putting communications behind occupy wall street. >> if folks would like more information, check out aaron klein's new book "red army". thank you very much. provocative. straight ahead, the department of justice wants to lie about public records and they're not hiding it. is that the kind of transparency

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>> good morning, everyone. we made it to the middle of the week. it's wednesday, october 26th. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time. check out the streets of california because they're burning with tear gas, occupy oakland looking like riots in germany. what happened to the peaceful idea of these protests? >> i guess they didn't like moneyball, how art howe was portrayed and president obama hitting the left coast trying to scare voters away from republicans. >> if you get sick, you're on your own. if you can't afford college, you're on your own. >> will the american people buy the scare tactics? we're going to report, you decide. >> plus the comedian-in-chief takes on the late night funnies. >> the white house is going to get angry. >> right.

>> they need to -- >> yeah, they got to go. >> so what is he talking about there? we have details straight ahead. "fox & friends" for a wednesday, hour two, starts right now. >> hey, this is meatloaf and you're watching "fox & friends." >> that was meatloaf. >> meatloaf again? >> right, fantastic. he was great on apprentice. >> he was great on our show. >> he's about due. >> been a little while. >> coming back for a concert. >> meatloaf, if you're watching, we need a new open. >> now to your headlines while you were sleeping, here's what happened in california. police in oakland got into nasty clashes. they used tear gas to break up the crowds. police arrested more than 100 people. let's go over to georgia now because police arrested more than 50 occupy atlanta protesters. they refused to leave a park even though the mayor revoked an order to let them stay there

after hours. two more amazing rescues out of turkey. search teams pulled a 27-year-old teacher and an 18-year-old student out alive. both were trapped under rubble since the 7.2 earthquake hit on sunday. the death toll stands at 450 now, thousands more are injured. "60 minutes" commentator andy rooney in the hospital in stable condition recovering from serious complications that developed after he had minor surgery. the 92-year-old tv legend ended his 33-year run on the show three weeks ago. rooney's family isn't saying what that initial surgery was for. president obama playing the comedian-in-chief last night on jay leno. >> can i get you anything, a teleprompt sner>> no, i think i can handle a simple conversation without a teleprompter. >> really? that is so impressive. >> very funny. president said he asked the first lady to make some big changes at the white house this halloween. pay attention, no more healthy treats -- >> she's been giving for the

last few years, kids fruits and raisins in the bag. and i said, you know, the white house is going to get egged. >> right. >> if this keeps up. >> you got to go with it. >> that's a good joke actually. this is the fourth time president obama has appeared on leno. and those are your headlines. don't try to egg the white house. you might end up in jail. >> you will. a guy in black outfits will hop out of the trees. >> healthy snacks generally. remember when you were a kid and you would go to the house and they would give you a popcorn ball. remember the homemade popcorn balls? they went right in the garbage. >> i love those. unfortunately, i loved every piece of candy that's sweet. >> the president was out in the west coast making a west coast swing because he was mixing his campaign with his policy, perhaps. and he was letting everybody know, even though he was waiting for the field of g.o.p. candidates to whittle its way down, he knows exactly in his mind what it would mean if he was to be a one term president.

let's hear it. >> if you get sick, you're on your own. if you can't afford college, you're on your own. if you don't like that some corporation is polluteding your air or the air that your child breathes, then you're on your own. that's not the america i believe in. it's not the america you believe in. >> there he is talking from the congressman playbook of republicans plan for health care. die quickly! pretty much the same thing. there he was at the w hotel yesterday in san francisco where tickets started at $5,000. of course, he's using california as his presidential atm and so far, very successful. >> a lot of people think this message would not be argued with on the republican side because they say this could be an era of self-reliance which many people think we got to get back to. might want to mix that message. >> not going to mix that message. total difference in ideology between the two parties right now. government intervention to help save the economy, less

regulation. no government intervention to help save the economy. he's going to continue on this streak because right now, he's got at least half the country behind him on it. >> today, he's in the mile high city of denver where i think they're going to wind up with 5 inches of snow overnight, the first major storm there in the front range of the rockies were he's going to be talking about his student loan program. arnie duncan, the secretary of education, we thought he was going to be on our program today because he's going to be on cnn and msnbc but apparently, the secretary of education too busy to stop by "fox & friends." >> too bad. >> he's going to put a student loan program out there that's got to please the occupy wall street crowd which he's going to talk about easier ways to pay off the student loan, different caps on the student loans but i think he might not be happy with the result. rasmussen did a poll and he said hey america, what do you think about forgiving student loans? 66% of americans say they oppose

forgiving student loans. it's going to cost us a trillion dollars. >> it's not going to cost us anything extra. it didn't take me 25 years to pay off my student loans. if you still owe money after 25 years, you're forgiven and the president wants to move that to 20 years and if you still owe money at the end of the 20 years, all is foregiven, folks. >> let's talk a little bit about foreign policy now. there's an article written this morning about exactly why, why did the president decide last friday to come to the microphones and say that all of the troops in iraq would be coming home before christmas? that was one of his campaign promises so some people say that's what it was. but could it also be because talks with al-malaki, that talks between biden, obama and al-malaki broke down or did they never happen? there's an article out today that says there was no communication between february 13th and october 21st when that announcement was made. >> so there's no top level

communication between the u.s. and iraq. from when he was elected in december after that long stand-off where we did almost nothing between them, the president, the vice president did not pick up the phone to say let's talk about the status of forces agreement and how we can work together moving forward. can you imagine nine months in and saying we can't come to an agreement. vice president biden had one phone conversation, one congratulating him and one in september saying how are we doing on this? >> this report comes from the mcclatchy newspapers and they looked at the embassy logs and came up with these figures. the white house took a look at that story and said hold your horses, that's not true. they say the vice president talked to senior iraqi leaders multiple times during that period of time. the president also engaged with iraqi leaders. your story is totally wrong. >> did he say he talked to malaki? >> they don't say that. we know for a fact that the kunlt of iraq wants our trainers, our uniformed trainers to stay in that country but

because, you know, the state of affairs and no pick up the telephone, they're going to be gone. >> when the iraqi government spokesperson says he could not explain the lack of contact between malaki and top level government officials, you would have to ask them. don't act like, wow, the last minute the talks broke down, we did everything we can. how can you possibly say you did everything you can when you didn't pick up the phone? >> make the white house run out of whatever time minutes. >> i don't think it's any surprise that the white house wants their troops home from iraq. maybe that's why intentionally there wasn't a lot of communication with the leaders of iraq and this is also political timing as well and come on, the election is 13 months away and this is part of president obama's base to appeal to them by bringing the troops home. >> you cannot act like you're strong on terror, fighting the war on terror and give iraq over to iran and allow their influence to multiply and you cannot by ignoring iraq and what

we've done say that you have our best interest at heart when you can't find one military person who thinks the way we're leaving iraq is to our benefit. >> meanwhile, somebody who would like to be the commander-in-chief is rick perry, the governor of the great state of texas. he was on the bill o'reilly program and at one point, bill o'reilly said look, let me give you some advice. you made a mistake here. do you agree? if you missed it, here it is. >> with all due respect, can i tell the mistake i think you made? >> sure. >> all right. immigration deal, i think that hurts you among tea party people, conservative americans, because there's a very strong emotional current that the american worker is getting hosed by the federal government and part of that is that illegal aliens and their children are getting benefits like in-state college tuition in texas and when you said hey, depriving those children of that education is heartless, a lot of conservatives said, you know what's heartless?

taking my tax money when i'm struggling and giving it to people who shouldn't be here. >> i think that was a mistake. >> i agree with you that i used the wrong word there and this is an economic issue and here's the bigger problem is the federal government has done a total and abject failure of securing our border. >> he's right. >> that's what his bigger issue is and having been the governor of the state of texas he believed in having to give the in-state tuitions because his argument is he didn't want all the illegal children to go on the government dole. his point of view. >> as soon as people found that out, gretch, that's when he went off the cliff. he had been riding high and then -- >> right. so let's see how rick perry actually feels about mitt romney. he was pretty honest when bill o'reilly asked him those questions. >> a difference of opinion about philosophically where are you staying? you can't be for banning guns and all of a sudden, you're, you know, for the second amendment. you can't be for the issue of abortion and you're pro life. you can't be on both sides. >> he's a weasel.

you think he doesn't have any principle. >> i think in his own words, he says listen, you know, i need to say whatever i need to say for whatever office i'm running for. >> wow! that's pretty strong, though. how can you respect a guy? that's not texas strong? >> that's his words. how do you change at the age of 50 or 60 positions on life, positions on guns, positions on traditional marriage? i mean, those aren't minor issues, bill, so to change those at age of 50 or 60 tells you all you need to know about that. >> meanwhile, when you look at the polls, herman cain and the cain train is doing very well and there's a brand new claris poll out yesterday and they asked people of all the republicans out there, who would you most like to have dinner with and 29% said herman cain followed by 22% for newt. 17% for mitt and everybody else was in single digits. >> interesting. and that goes ahonorilong with

positivity factor of herman cain. >> and possibly mitt romney playing to governor perry's assumptions there. mitt romney not going to back the law in ohio when governor perry says that's a program that i can get behind and i hope people in ohio vote for the referendum even though it looks bleak. >> a dozen minutes past the top of the hour. a judge in florida got the go ahead to consider islamic law in the courtroom. did we mention the judge is in florida? that's wrong with american laws? details straight ahead. >> and the president says we can't wait for congress to bail out homeowners but congressman kevin mccarthy says all americans have done is make americans actually wait. we'll be with us next. [ male announcer ] drinking a smoothie with no vegetable nutrition?

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>> president obama says he can't wait for congress to straighten out the housing crisis so he's going at it himself. >> if congress acts, then people in nevada and all across the country can get significant relief but remember what i said, we can't just wait for congress. until they act, until they do what they need to do, we're going to act on our own. >> well, his plan is to force lenders to refinance on homes that are underwater that could potentially cost taxpayers billions so should we be bailing out homeowners as much as you'd feel bad for those home owners? house majority whip kevin mccarthy joins us from washington. congressman, what's your thought about what the president was saying yesterday in nevada? >> look, i'm willing to look at anything to help this housing market but you look at his last two programs have failed. if he can't wait to act, one thing i would say, look at the jobs creator plan that the

republicans have. they've been out there working. if you look at the backside of the card, here's the forgotten 15 plan sitting in the senate that the senate has never taken up. these will create jobs. they will improve the economy from energy to small business and it will fundamentally change the housing industry. >> you know, i want you to get into detail on that. real quick on housing, a lot of people out there saying that's great for me and now i'm going to get that refinancing i thought i had because of the crackdown on the banks on criteria to get a loan. maybe they've overcorrected. what do you say to that? >> some of the banks have overcorrected. i'm willing to look at anything to help the housing. my frustration is the last two programs have been a tremendous failure and those who have defaulted on the second time around have been greater than the first. so how is this different? and i -- if we can't wait, i'd like to -- i can't wait to get off the campaign trail and get back here and work with us and solve some of these problems. >> let's talk about your ideas for access to capital in the job

creators act. for example, one of the things right now in america, if you're a small business owner and you want to attract investment into your company, you have to prove you have a relationship with somebody prior. and if you don't have a bunch of billionaires on your speed dial, you're out of luck. >> right. and the rule goes back to 1933. i think we have a new world. so if you have a great idea, you can't go out if you don't already know the individuals and they're trying to get capital and the rule today inside financial services, we're going to get rid of that. we're going to allow individuals with a good idea to find those who are credited investors to invest in their business. and when you find somebody to invest like that, you get another avenue to capital. and small business is where all the job growth has created. >> you speak from experience, congressman, too, you said you won the lotto. you got your $5,000. that's paid for school. you know what it's like and you don't think you could start a business like that today? >> look, i started my first business when i was 20 years old. i took my money out of the stock

market. i refinanced when the current car was going and i charged up my credit cards. by the end of two years, i had enough to pay my way through college. if i had to start that business again today, the entrance is too great from regulations to capital. we need to free up the capital and unshackle small business. if you measure small business growth, that's the greatest growth. take the end of the last recession, 2001 to the beginning of this recession, 2007, all the jobs if you had employees of 500 or fewer, you added seven million jobs. if you had 500 employees or more, you cut a million jobs. small business is the greatest growth to the economy. what's happened by this obama economy has made it too hard to enter the market. >> job creators act is on your web site. find out more about it and if you're a small business owner, looks like you'll want to get behind it. congressman, thanks so much. >> thanks for having me. >> all right. coming up straight ahead, christmas is coming early. the state department is sending copies of the president's book to embassies around the world. and guess who is picking up the tab? all right. you're out of time. and the department of justice wants to lie about public

records and they're not hiding it. is that the kind of transparency we heard about from the administration? we'll report about it, you'll decide about it. 

>> let's do some news by the numbers for you. first, 128,000, that's how much ex-illinois rob blagojevich is eligible to collect in a federal retirement pension. lawmakers are trying to stop this from happening. time is running out. next 70,000. that's how much the state department spent on one of president obama's books, copies of "dreams from my father" will be sent out as christmas gratuities this year and guess what? taxpayers are picking up the tab. finally, $170 million. that's how much michael jackson has made over the past 12 months. jackson tops the list of dead celebrities still cashing in.

elvis presley and marilyn monroe round out the top three. wow. steve? >> that's a lot of money. freedom of information requests are used by american citizens to get information from the government. but now there's a proposed rule change that would allow federal agencies to deny requests by saying, those documents, they don't exist. even if they do. should the federal government have the right to lie to us and what happened to transparency in government? something president obama pledged. fox news legal analyst peter johnson jr. is here. peter, this rule change, somebody can say we would like to look at these rules and the federal government can say, they don't exist. even if they're in the back room and they do exist. >> i guess it's a new constitutional amendment, i guess it's part of the bill of rights, the right of the federal government to lie. the freedom of information act came into effect, president lyndon johnson, july 4th, 1966. it gives americans the right and other people the right to look into the halls of government and see what's going on.

by e-mail, by fax, by letter, send a request to a particular agency, give me the records and they have a certain amount of days, you pay and get the records. now, by a rule change, the department of justice says we want the capacity to say that records don't exist when they do in fact exist. now, there are -- >> wait a minute. >> there are certain exemptions under the law, personnel records involving particular people. that's exemptions built in but the aclu and other organizations even middle and right centered organizations for openers in government is saying listen, this is going too far. don't explicitly say it's going to be a policy of the federal government to say we're going to lie about records because if you can do it for law enforcement in a way that is not in keeping with the way it's been done in the past, you can do it with everything else. >> absolutely. it makes perfect sense.

there are some kind of famous instances where freedom of information requests have been made. they wanted to know how many times jack abramoff had been to the white house. >> and then there was president kennedy's assassination to search for details of president kennedy's assassination. also, ufo buffs want to know what's going on in roswell, new mexico, so there's been actions with regard to that and finally the release of the hijacked jetliners tape. >> here's the question, if this goes through, i can't imagine it going through. but who would be the one person to decide, ok, this rises to the level where we can lie to people? >> agency by agency makes that determination and so there's an administrative review that americans have. now, the other side of the coin is the obama white house says that attorney general mees back in the 1980's promulgated a similar rule but this is a new

rule that apparently goes further than ever before. and so now we have a situation that it's out in the open that the federal government says yeah, perhaps we want to lie on certain occasions about records that we have. i would say that information is never free in our government but the price to be paid for lying about it may be even costlier than that. >> and so few people trust the government and this would give them even more reason not to trust them. >> let's trust the government but let's have as much disclosure as we can. good to see you, steve. >> thank you very much. see you tomorrow. >> meanwhile, if you're having trouble paying your mortgage, the white house has a plan for you. but will you even qualify? dave ramsey helps break it all down. then remember rudy? the star of one of the most inspirational movies of all time, sean aston is here.

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take me home to the place i belong ♪ >> oh, yes, john denver. president obama is out and about campaigning for his new mortgage plan claiming it will help people stay in their homes to get the real estate market back on track. but who qualifies for this plan? >> personal finance expert and author of "entree leadership" dave ramsey is here to break it all down for us. good morning to you, dave! >> good morning. how are you guys? >> good. >> doing fine. >> so let's talk about the bullet pieces of this particular plan starting with the mortgage is backed by fannie and freddie, that has to be a requirement for you to be -- to be eligible for this plan? >> exactly. and you've got to be current on your payments and no late payments in the last six months which would make you current on your payments and only one late payment in the last year so basically, these are people that are not in trouble with their mortgages except that they're upside down on their house. i'm not sure how this is going to stimulate the economy or help

the foreclosure or the real estate crisis. these are people who are doing ok who get to refinance at a lower rate. that's nice. that's great. but it's more campaign rhetoric that says hey, i did something, whether it really doesn't move the needle. >> a lot of people say hey, you know what? everything was good for me. under these new rules, i can't refinance my loan to something more atenable and they're forcing fannie and freddie who are not solvent to do just that. to give loans to people they didn't want to. >> well, in this case, it's people who are current so probably freddie and fannie would. if you force them to take -- give loans to people who were behind, now we've got yet another problem being set up and another crisis pushed off into the future to avoid one today. this is what happens when government tinkers in the free market. and again, it sounds more like a campaign stump speech than it does an actual program. >> ok, we've got some folks who have some questions for you regarding this, dave. first up, mark m. from wisconsin writes "we have a 30 year fixed at 4.8%.

should we refinance for a 15 year fixed, down size or hold tight until we finish paying off our debts and building our emergency fund"? what do you think? >> well, if you can refi and roll any refi costs in and get a 2% cheaper or 1% cheaper mortgage, if you're going to stay in the home, that's going to make sense. roll your refi costs in and continue to work your get out of debt and emergency fund plan. >> here's don from texas. we moved from portland, oregon to austin, texas two years ago. we have a home in portland that's underwater that we lose about $350 per month on between our rental income and our mortgage payment, we already bought a home in austin and these mortgages are the only debts we have. should we try to do a short sale in portland? >> the only time you do a short sale is to avoid a foreclosure.

it's just to the left of a foreclosure. it's almost the same thing. it still destroys your credit. you're still six months to a year behind on your mortgage before they accept a short sale so just because it's inconvenient to pay $350 out of your pocket, no, you wouldn't do a short sale. now, if you can't pay the bill, and you're going to get foreclosed on, then you would try a short sale. i think you're probably going to feed this house in portland a little while longer because you made the bad decision to buy a home in austin before your portland home was able to sell. >> from tennessee, this question. our annual income is around $55,000 and we are about to be debt free except for our house. balance on the house is $48,000. is it ok to throw all the money into paying off the house in the next two to three years rather than investing it? this is a common, common question. >> that's a great question. how exciting to be that close to having a paid for house. oh, my gosh! it's really tempting to do that. we suggest what we call baby steps forward in the total money make-over steps. and baby steps forward is you

put 15% of your income into retirement. now, that's about $6,000 or $7,000 a year in their case. that's not going to keep them from paying off their home. it probably is going to cost them an extra year in their paying off their home program. so do be saving for retirement at a moderate level while you pile the rest of it on this house and go ahead and knock that mortgage out. that's a great goal. >> it sounds like they've been listeners of the dave ramsey show. thank you very much for joining us today from tennessee. have a great day. see you back here next week. >> thanks, guys. >> let's do some headlines for you now. first solyndra and now fisker. republicans are calling on congressional investigators to expand their probe of the obama administration's green energy loans and specifically their loan to the electric car company fisker. as we've been reporting here, they received more than half a billion dollars in u.s. taxpayer money but it's building the luxury cars in finland and not the united states. >> meanwhile, amanda knox's italian ex-boyfriend breaking his silence for the first time

since their murder convictions were overturned. they have talked to each other every day. he can't wait to see her again and look into her eyes. he calls their four year ordeal a circle of hell. he is planning to visit knox in seattle come christmas time. >> keep me up to date on that. a judge in florida got the go ahead to consider islamic law in his court. earlier this year, judge richard nielsen drew a lot of criticism for saying that sharia principles were valid in settling a money dispute in a local mosque. that ruling challenged. today, the challenge tossed. a lawyer called the mosque -- called for the mosque said this is a big win for them and a victory for the judge. >> a special homecoming celebration at urbana high school in frederick county, maryland. special needs student kevin shomberg voted homecoming king. it started with a campaign on facebook by his classmates. he has down's syndrome and participates in the school's

unified sports program sponsored by the special olympics. that's great. >> 23 minutes now before the top of the hour. joining us now, someone who knows a lot about sportsmanship, the real life rudy, actor sean astin. actually real life rudy is not here. sean astin is really here. >> answer to anything. >> you do a better rudy than rudy. i met rudy. except when he's giving a speech which he does a lot. >> and you're here to talk about your new movie. >> i am indeed. it's also a sports movie about horse racing. >> it is? >> it's called "and they're off" and it's ridiculous actually. it's a ridiculous movie. it's a mocumentary and i play the worst horse training -- the horse trainer in the history of the sport. >> congratulations. >> well, it was easy. >> we got a snippet. want to watch it? >> sean astin in the new movie. >> this is exactly the view that all of his rivals would have. why do i need to see anything more? >

>> his father was a show jumper in england. in the middle of nowhere, he'll jump in the middle of a race totally correctable. >> mom never raced. i guess you could call her a stay at home mom. >> gentle mare. >> oh, my gosh. >> comes back to the horses, doesn't it? >> tell you not to stand right behind a horse. >> well, it was in a stall. that's not the issue. >> it's not a horse. but no, he's working with the owner. that's the owner and that's one of the big things in training horses is you got to be correct about how you do that. >> i understand your dad does not believe in you, and your girlfriend is wacky. >> she plays my girlfriend and she's ridiculous in a beautiful way. my father is overprotective and at one point, he thinks -- the thing about the movie is it's totally random. you'll be in the middle of a story and then all of a sudden, it goes through and has nothing to do with horse racing. you think what's going on with this movie?

>> like this is spinal tap or all those -- >> it is a mockumentary in that vain. i don't know if we'd pretend -- those are classics. >> part of the genre. it's a hoot. >> so it looks like it's shot in a certain kind of a way, too. >> it is. mockumentary style. there's a camera following us around. sometimes you see the camera and other times we're addressing the camera and the whole premise is, this is why it was so much fun to make, you're supposed to freestyle it. you have the lines and you do the lines and then you just -- then the director is looking, what are you going to come up with and you're thinking i'm funny, i better think of something. >> is that more difficult than the other roles you've had? >> it's plain fun. we had a great time. >> that's a lot different than the kind of roles your mother is used to. we're talking his mom, of course, patty duke. you told us earlier that she's been very busy. how is she doing? >> she's doing great. healthy and strong and working hard and yeah, you know, she's had so many challenges. the fact that she's fired up and she's doing things back to back to back just as a family, we're

pretty excited about it. >> when you say she's had challenges. >> she's very public about heart disease she's had and she's bipolar suffererer and she's a battle hardened warrior but she's been really healthy for two years and she's working hard. >> that's great. >> you know what? there's no doubt about it. everyone looks at you and they think of your different roles and your success but always think of you as rudy and i'm wondering as rudy, someone who played rudy and loves notre dame, do you believe they quit against usc this weekend? >> i went to ucla, that's where i got my degree. >> doesn't matter. >> i understand. ucla and notre dame are my two favorite schools. and usc is not, let me just say that. let me just say that. >> did you look over the team if brian kelly is fired? >> i don't know if i'm qualified for that. i'd give it a whirl. >> when kids are applying to notre dame, how many ask you to write a letter on their behalf?

>> i've had four. >> do they get in? >> i'm not going to answer that. >> that's your track record, brings us full circle back to the movie. good luck with the movie. if students' parents can't speak english, should the schools pay for a translator? our next guest says yes. what about parents' responsibility to learn english on their own? if i could speak it, it might be a good thing. >> and cute dogs who only need one thing, a warm, loving home and are you listening, sean? help us to help them later this hour. how would you like to live with a celebrity? [ male announcer ] to the 5:00 a.m. scholar.

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arrived in the skies three years after it was scheduled to. today, it also took off late after a delay into tokyo. that's one cool looking 787. and customs agents on the arizona border busted a mexican man trying to smuggle ammo south of the border. all those bullets stashed inside the panels of his car. nearly 2,000 rounds in total just like that. all right. gretchen, over to you. >> well, listen to this, folks, schools in cleveland, ohio, are required to provide translation assistance to parents of students who don't speak english. but is this the best way to use taxpayer money or should it go to better resources for the students? joining me now to discuss this is victor ruiz, the executive director of cleveland schools. good to see you. are you executive director of espiranza or cleveland schools? >> executive director of espiranza. >> that's what i thought. sorry for the confusion at the

beginning. let's talk about the program. apparently there was a lawsuit and now cleveland schools have to provide this translator to the parents who don't speak english. is that a good idea or bad idea? >> well, i think that it's a necessary -- i think it's necessary in order for our students to get the best education possible. >> why? >> why? i think it's unreasonable to expect any adult to come to the country and learn the language, you know, overnight. you know, esperanza is an example. we provide five different english as a second language class to our adult population. we have a waiting list there. people are learning the language. it's not a process that's done quickly. while they learn the language, it's important that they stay engaged in their child's education and having these resources helps them do that. >> so this new language policy, is it only for spanish speaking parents? >> no, no. there are many different languages represented in the cleveland school district.

>> now the cleveland schools have to hire translators for any kind of language, korean, chinese, spanish, french, any kind of language that people coming to this country may speak? >> you know, that's my understanding. i'm not -- i'm not sure what the cleveland schools' full plan is but i think that it's what the -- what was decided and i think that as a community, we have a responsibility to properly educate all of our children. >> let me ask the obvious question which is should taxpayer dollars be going towards this or should they be going more to the resources inside the school for the kids? in other words, is it the responsibility of people who want to move to this country to learn english as responsible parents to their children so they can be engaged with them in the classroom? >> you know, again, as i just stated, people are learning english. i think that we all know that children pick up the language a lot faster than adults. and that's regardless of what country you come from. so i think until parents are able to pick up that language

which cannot be done overnight. >> many people may do that, victor, but i got to tell you, i know about communities right here in new york where kids are born and raised here and they never learn how to speak english because we've made it simple to continue to discuss and converse in the language of their parents. your comment? >> you know, i can only comment about cleveland. like i said, we have waiting lists of many programs for english as a second language so people are learning the language. i've never met an individual that's told me, i refuse to learn english. so again, in cleveland, people are learning the language. >> all right, victor ruiz, the executive director of esperanza, not the school district, thank you for your thoughts this morning. let us know what you think about that. they're cute and cuddly, they need your help. our paws for the cause coming up next. on this day in history in 1982, the number one song was "who can it be now" by men at work.

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>> today, we continue our week long paws for a cause series. animal shelters and rescue organizations all around this country need supplies, they need donations and are full of adorable dogs like the ones you're about to meet. and they need homes. here to explain how you can get your dog today, loretta renaldo is here, president of the forgotten friends of long island and brought with her one of her good friends. she's with foster and rescue coordinator for forgotten friends. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> and more important as you two

are, who did you bring with you? >> we brought jacks, he is a male pitbull mix from one of the city shelters here. >> ok. this is jacks, right? >> this is jacks. >> i'll be your hand model. how did you find jack? >> well, actually, we belong to -- we're new hope partners with the mayors alliance and they sent out pleas for help and we answered the plea for jacks. >> and he's what? >> pitbull mix. >> pitbull. he's about 10 months old and he came to us with a broken right front arm. and tomorrow, he will be going under his second surgery to repair his elbow. needs to be reconstructed. >> unfortunately, he didn't know it until we announced it him. now he's going to be nervous. who did we bring with him? >> this is phoenix. about a year old. also a pit mix. >> it looks like jacks is a little jealous. what's her history? >> she was one of three siblings that we took in. the mom had a litter of nine and

she and her three siblings were the weakest of the litter. they had to be bottle fed. >> you guys are saving them from kill, from certain death, right? >> yes. >> you're saving them out and right now, you have huge fees. when you get him and he needs an operation and they need their shots, who pays? >> well, we do a lot of fundraising and, of course, people that, you know, know about our cause donate to us. but that's how we do it. we work very hard. we fund raise all the time. >> right. and the thing i find most noteworthy here is the kids couldn't care less they're on television. >> that's right. they love each other. >> i take that a little personal. these two dogs, people think pitbulls, that's a drug dog. that's just not true. they got a bad rep. how would you say you characterize the nature of these dogs? >> they're bulldozers, they're tons of fun. all they want to do is be loved. they're so loyal. they learn quickly. they want to please. >> they're decathletes, they can go for over an eight foot to a standing stop, i've seen that

myself. something happened with their endurance. this guy is flat out exhausted or bored. i'm hoping exhausted. if we want to help out, i'm sure everybody does, we're going to go to forgotten friends of long island.org. >> and we can get these dogs in particular? >> absolutely. >> you have five other on the site. >> that's correct. we have over 100 cats in the program right now so we would really appreciate some help with our cats. and kittens. we, you know, we rescue because we just got out of a very heavy duty kitten season so we tried to help as much as we possibly can. >> all right. and good luck on your surgery tomorrow. guys, thanks so much for coming in. >> thank you. >> i'd like to mention one other thing about, that we're building an adoption center. we're trying to save money and fundraise for an adoption center. so that's something that we're looking forward to doing. >> your money is going for a good cause. >> yes, sir. >> that's what we got with the dogs. bring the show back to humans here. >> thanks to you over there. president obama about to offer some help for student loans.

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>> gretchen: good morning, everyone. hope you're going to have a great wednesday. it's october 26. i'm gretchen carlson. president obama laughing it up on late intoity, making jokes about the republicans who want his job. >> i'm going to wait until everybody is voted off the island. >> gretchen: kind of like survivor, but the interview not all laughs. we'll share some of it with you. >> steve: governor rick perry enters the no spin zone. all due remain. >> can i tell you a mistake i think you made? >> sure. >> steve: wait until you see how that one played u. we have got details and we'll play you the entire clip. >> brian: i got news, governor perry, he was going o tell you anyway. here is proof love really is blind. the couple that weathered this storm will be here live.

"fox & friends" not foggy this hour. we're coming to you as soon as i'm done talking, which is now. >> hi, this is jane sermore which you're watching "fox & friends" which is by far the most fun show ever. >> steve: thank you, dr. quinn. >> brian: she also had, is that the same jane who has a jewelry line? >> gretchen: yes. >> brian: i think i bought her jewelry kind of buy mistake and i realized what i bought. >> steve: and isn't one of her kids the gerber baby, too? >> brian: i'm not sure. >> gretchen: i don't know about that. she has twins. we'll google jane. in the meantime, let's do headlines. president obama is heading to colorado today for the fifth time since being elected where he will make a big announcement about student loans. >> steve: joining us from denver, colorado, is white house correspondent ed henry. ed, looks like you're indoors. i understand there is a winter storm watch for denver until 6:00 p.m. tonight. is that why you're inside?

>> thanks for calling me out and calling me a wimp. i really appreciate that. i wanted to be outside, but it's still pretty dark out there. i'm in the studio and warm, but thanks for calling me out and basically saying i'm a wimp. >> steve: all right, fine. so don't be a wimp. belly up to the bar here and answer the question, what is the president up to today? >> he's going to be at the university of colorado, denver campus unveiling student loan reform, sort of executive action that allows him to go around congress. what he's going to do specifically is try to cap payments at 10% of income. also allow students to consolidate those loans to kind of lower the interest payments. but republicans already raising questions about when you do more consolidation, does that mean you lose more jobs in the loan industry? yesterday i went to the denver science museum of nature and science where the president signed the stimulus into law in 2009 and basically asked some vote what they think about this

and one republican voter said he doesn't like the idea of the president going around congress. take a listen. >> you elect your congressman to represent you. make those votes for you. you don't elect a dictator. >> the white house rejects this by saying, look, if the congress is going to sit on his jobs bill and not pass it, he's going to take executive actions to try and help improve the economy. he made a little light of this as well on jay leno, you played one of those clips. nooner clip he was asked why he won't let his kids watch "keeping up with the kardashian" and he said he has a bias against reality shows because of one they have on c-span called congress. >> it's going to be interesting because when you talk about student loan, 66% of the country is against america for giving student loans. we'll see how that plays out. this is the fifth trip by the president since becoming president to colorado. is it an indication how bad he needs this state? >> absolutely.

the bottom line is that he was on a bipath to winning the state. he have beat john mccain easily in 2008 and that was in part because he had the democratic convention right here in this city of denver. but unemployment, foreclosures here, just like in many other big cities around the country, it's all weighing down his poll numbers here. i mentioned he went to the denver museum, talked to republicans not happy and a democratic voter saaveda look, congress is blocking parts of his agenda and it's time for him to take action on his own. take a listen. >> the people are losing their homes and jobs and people are hurt, very hurtful. so whoever can get it done needs to get it done. he's the president, more power to him. if it's here in the rips working to together, more power to them. >> when you talk to the president's advisors in private, they basically say if he wins colorado again, and he wins nevada again where he was a couple of days ago, they think he's got a better than 50/50 chance of winning reelection 'cause winning the western

states could offset loss elsewhere. but if he loses effort or both of these states, it will be very, very hard for him to get reelected. they know that and that's why he keeps coming back. >> brian: if he wants to take colorado, we know the secret, kiss up to tim tebow. he's the king of colorado. >> everybody here is talking about him. i think it's the only story that's bigger than the local snow right now. >> steve: you're stuck in the studio. ed henry, make sure the camera crew brings you warm cocoa now, have a good time. >> i'm going to dependent you back. >> gretchen: you will. >> brian: he's never getting up for us again. thank you for getting up bright and early. we appreciate your insight. >> i'll do it if steve is on vacation. >> brian: fantastic. >> gretchen: thanks. let's talk more about president obama because he was on jay leno's show as ed was alluding to and some of the comments he made. this one in particular is getting a lot of play because he talked about whether or not he's paying attention to the gop race right now. listen to this.

>> when mitch mcconnell says our goal was to make this guy a one-term president, why -- does that anger you? how is that a goal? >> well, look, i think the thing that folks across the country are most fed up with, whether you're a democrat, republican, independent, is putting party ahead of country or putting the next election ahead of the next generation. i'm going to wait until everybody is voted off the island -- one thing narrowed down to one or two, i'll start paying attention. >> steve: that's interesting 'cause he makes an allusion to a reality show even though he says he doesn't let his kids watch it because it's a reality show. >> gretchen: it's also probably not true that he's not paying attention to the gop race. because when rick perry came out with his flat tax plan yesterday and after mitt romney's 59 point plan, the administration

yesterday put out a very long press release in response to that. so maybe he's not back the debates and paying attention to all the candidates right now, but his administration is. >> brian: or his campaign. >> steve: his people. he's got one -- yesterday out in california, the president said, i have fulfilled 66% of my campaign promises. that sounds pretty good, doesn't it? two-thirds. however, according to one web site, he has if you would 30%. -- fulfilled 30%. half of what he said. >> brian: 504 promises he made, but congress only achieved about a 15% of what they said they were going to achieve. so they have a lot on the docket, too. the president of the united states was talking about michael goodwin's column indirectly. jay leno asked him, what about this rumored switch between your secretary of state and vice president? hillary becomes your number two and the secretary of state and the vice president becomes your secretary of state? listen to his answer. >> joe biden is not only a great

vice president, but he has been a great advisor and a great friend to me. i think that they're doing great where they are and both of them are ranking up a lot of miles. joe tends to go more to pittsburgh. hillary is going to karachi. but i think both got important work to do. they're doing great. >> gretchen: trust me, even if it would mean a victory for putting hillary in as vp, he's going to keep her in karachi. i think that it was a stunner when he named her the secretary of state. there is no way that he's going to put her in as the vice president. no way. >> brian: meanwhile, bill o'reilly last night had governor perry on for two block, almost unheard him in o'reilley lore. so bill o'reilly told him one thing that he concluded about governor perry's campaign to this point, the mistake he made. listen. >> with all due respect, can i tell you a mistake i think you made?

>> sure. >> all right. the immigration deal. i think that hurt you among tea party people, conservative americans because it's a very strong emotional current that the american worker is getting hosed by the federal government and part of that is that illegal aliens and their children are getting benefits like in-state college tuition in texas. when you said, hey, depriving those children of that education is heartless, a lot of executives said, you know what is heartless? taking my tax money when i'm struggling and giving it to people who shouldn't be here. i think that was a mistake. >> i agree with you that i used the wrong word there. this is an economic issue. here is the bigger problem is the federal government has been a total abject failure of protecting our border. >> steve: so when he made that comment, he went down in the polls and immediately went down over the next couple of weeks. now that he finally explained his economic plan, do you think

his ratings go up? >> brian: i think that's the most intriguing question so far. can he resuscitate his campaign? and could he come all the way back, 'cause i don't remember a candidate outside of john mccain able to do that. what got him so high, went so low and came all the way back. >> gretchen: i think it speaks to the indecision of a lot of members of the republican party right now as to who they like. you just see surge for herman cain like that. i think it's because they're unsettled still when who they might choose. let's do the rest of your headlines. in a few hours, gupta will surrender to the f.b.i he's accused of leaking inside information to convicted hedge fund boss. there is evidence he tipped off his boss to warren buffet's $5 billion cash infusion to goldman in 2008 at the height of the financial crisis. his lawyers maintain that he is innocent. first solyndra and now fisker. republicans are calling on investigators to expand their probe of the obama administration's green energy

loans to include now the electric car company fisker. it received more than half a billion dollars in u.s. taxpayer money, but it's building luxury cars not in the united states, but in another country. in oaknd la, california, police and occupy wall street protesters got in fights. protesters threw bottles and paint outside of city hall. police arrested more than 100 people there. in georgia, police arrested more than 50 occupy atlanta protesters. they refused to leave a park even though the mayor revoked an order to let them stay there after hours. spoiler alert for you. we're about to show you who got kicked off "dancing with the stars" last night. >> chaz and lacey. >> gretchen: so chaz bono gets the boot. he struggled from the beginning

and got the lowest scores the night before. >> i came on the show because i wanted to show america a different kind of man and i know that if there was somebody like me on tv when i was growing up, my whole life would have been different. so i dedicate everything i did to all the people out there like me. >> gretchen: next monday is the "dancing with the stars" halloween show. although it looks like chaz was donning some sort of halloween con actual there as the phantom. >> steve: cher has just stopped watching. >> brian: and showing up. there you go. >> steve: straight ahead on our wednesday telecast, the battle between tax plans, herman cain says 9% no matter what. rick perry thinks you should set your own rate. our panel, those guys with the pros and cons when we come back. good morning, lady and gentlemen. >> brian: then christmas came early. the state department gifting copies of the president's book to embassies around the world. guess who is picking up the tab. not simon and schuster.

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>> gretchen: welcome back. rick perry putting his flat tax plan up against herman cain's 9-9-9. >> let me visit with you about herman's plan. this doesn't have a vat tax and doesn't have a national sales tax. i mean, that's the biggest difference right there. americans do not trust washington, d.c. to have a new form of taxation. >> gretchen: so whose plan is better? here to weigh in this morning is our political panel, attorney eadvantage lean gomez, jean christopher, and national review editor at large and fox news contributor, jonah goldberg.

good morning to all three of you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: so john christopher, let me start with you. what do you make of the difference between the two plans? do you like either one or neither? >> neither of them will probably ever get through congress. >> gretchen: why? >> because they don't raise enough revenue, number one. and number two, they're great pieces of bomb pastickity, but do they really provide the kinds of moneys that the federal government would need and not putting the burdens onto the states, which is actually happening right now. >> gretchen: jonah, would they go through if a republican was elected president and republicans dominated congress? >> the republican party is galvanizing and gelling around flatter taxes, tax code, tax reform, and which version of it gets through the next republican congress and i think we'll probably a republican congress will depend 'til then. on the may crow level it's a good sign. i think one of the problems with perry's plan, unlike herman cain's t doesn't come with a

free order of cheese sticks with every pizza. >> gretchen: that should be point number one. >> exactly. but generally, i think that it's a sign that the basic republican party wants flattinger, broader taxes. >> gretchen: i want to put up the graphic to show the differences in the plan, if we can put that up. under perry, you have the option of paying the current individual tax rate you're under. i think what some people like about the perry plan is that you have a choice or you can pay the 20% flat tax. of course, cain's plan has that value added tax that perry allude to do in that sound bite where it's a national sales tax and some people had a problem with that. your thoughts? >> gretchen, the american public understands that both the cain and the perry proposed flat tax plans are gimmicks. >> gretchen: gimmicks? >> they would only serve the wealthy in that they would provide them with more tax breaks at the expense of working and middle class families. >> gretchen: what about the perry plan?

they can stay with the current plan that they have, which 47% don't pay federal income tax. >> let me finish my point. perry is not concerned about advancing sound tax policy. he is only concerned about increasing his dwindling poll numbers. poll after poll has shown us that the american public wants millionaires to pay their fair share of taxes. not less, and these plans would just put more money into millionaires' pocket. >> we have the most progressive tax system in the western world, more than europe. it depends what you mean by fair share. if you mean all of their money, that's fine. but this talking point stuff about fair share and all that stuff is better for chance and occupy wall street. >> gretchen: great that you can stick around because we got more to discuss with our panel and he's talking about wall street, the president is. but he will still take the donations. he promised no lobbyist, but now he has hired one. so can the president have it both ways? is this just politics or will

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>> brian: quick headlines. today john edwards asked a federal judge to dismiss the federal charges against him for breaking finance campaign laws. he faces six felonies for using donor money to keep his mistress quiet. his argument? he gave gifts, not cash, and gifts are not against the law. two amazing survival stories out of turkey. rescue crews pulled a 27-year-old teacher and an 18-year-old student out alive from the rubble. both were trapped since the 7.2 earthquake on sunday. the death toll now stands at 460 people.

thousands more are injured. gretch? >> gretchen: thank you. he complains about wall street, but he still takes their donations and promise no lobbyists and he's hired some. can the president have it both ways or will the people take notice? we're back with our political panel. all right. let me start with you, because it appears that the president demonizes those on wall street, calling out millionaires and billionaires, aligning himself with the occupy wall street protesters, and yet he still expects them to give him a bunch of money to be reelected and actually support him. do you see it as him trying to claim both ways? >> president obama is neither anti-corporation nor anti-bank. remember, president obama implemented the second round of tarp to save our nation's banks. second, he was very successful in reining in a failing auto industry. as for hiring a bank lobbyist, it's not a crime to work for

banks. nothing of what barak obama has done is inconsistent or hypocritical. >> gretchen: jonah, i remember words like millionaires and billionaires over and over again. i remember fat cats. remember when he called wall streeters fat cats? so i can see how people might get the impression that this president is anti-wall street and antibusiness. >> he's constantly insinuating it's greedy to disagree with his programs, it's anti-american to disagree with his programs. this is a guy who received more money from wall street than any presidential candidate in the last 20 years. his administration, treasury department is face standed and festive with wall street fat cats and the like and he got more money from pain capital than mitt romney who used to run it. on the one hand, he can get away with it so long as people don't care. it's sort of like the enron thing. george bush had his presidency wounded by an enron scandal that didn't exist. obama has the solyndra scandal,

which is far more egregious and hasn't wound him. it depends on what the main stream press will go after. >> gretchen: if he's correct, will the public care about this? >> i think the public cares about who is going to care for them and the idea of creating jobs. barak obama is savvy enough to be able to court wall street and in the meantime, and also appeal to the people who are looking for jobs and wall street is where the jobs are. >> gretchen: how has he created wall street by using that vocabulary? >> his chief lobbyist is in the oval office every day, which is bill daley, who was with chase. let's get real. you have to be on both sides. you have to line up with both of these operations and make sure that wall street is supporting you. we talk about bain capital, mitt romney, who is actually put out at 59-page plan which is actually pretty reasonable, looks like he's going to redo the tax code. it's not just a mere sham, is a

wall street guy. and if you follow where the capped dates have been in the last three weeks, get their schedules, you can see exactly where they are, where they're getting the money and courting wall street. >> gretchen: so do you still think the donors will go, the wall street donor also go with president obama, because it already looks like jamie diamond, who runs one of the most successful banks in the world is aligning himself with mitt romney? >> yes, i think at the end of the day, wall street and the banks are going to go with obama because he is the only individual who seems to understand that this country is made up of different interests and he's the only one who has been able to perfectly balance all of that. >> perfectly? >> gretchen: final comment? >> barak obama, who is the worst shape of any incumbent president since jimmy carter has managed to perfectly balance all of these competing interests. >> he also inherited the worst economy. and that's something you need to talk about. >> i agree.

>> gretchen: three years in -- >> when the occupy wall street crowd actually focuses on a candidate, woe to all of them. >> c.i.a., ralph nader. >> gretchen: we're still waiting for them to come together on that. we'll see if it happens. panel, thank you. a judge in florida got the go ahead to consider islamic law in his courtroom. what's the matter with american law as soon as don't judge a skinny girl by hess fat suit? nancy o'dell is behind this stunt and she's here with the skinny and cozying up to brian in the control room. >> brian: here is nancy o'dell. she's got a brand-new book out, she's got a great story about the reality show and look what she did for me. she took off her heels so we could be the same size. i love this woman! >> you can take the girl out of the country, but can't take the country out of the girl. >> brian: can i keep this? >> yes, but don't wear them, unless you want to.

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>> steve: it's time for your shot of the morning. we showed you this halloween house that sings to you yesterday. ♪

>> steve: you got to figure the electric meter in the back of the house is zooming around like that. meanwhile, the owner of that house has changed their tune. watch. ♪ ♪ am. >> steve: now i'm scared. the house in riverside, california, now putting on a light show to the song "this is halloween" from "the nightmare before christmas." he used thousands of strobe lights to create the perfectly timed holiday display. i wonder what they'll play on halloween. >> gretchen: i don't know, but that's amazing. i can't stop watching it. >> brian: i like watching it 'cause i don't live there. if i lived next to them, i don't know how happy i'd be. nancy o'dell knows hollywood like the back of her hand.

she did not have the riverside house singing story, though. so it's no surprise that this september emmy award winning entertainment journalist became the host of "entertainment tonight." >> gretchen: and also the author of a new book which she'll tell us about later on. first of all, i know you have a young daughter at home. are you going to be out trick or treating? >> of course. she's aerial. i think she's been aerial for almost everything. we're going to be going out and looking for all the candy and stuff. chocolate. she's big chocolate lover. >> steve: listen, where i live in new jersey, the house to house stuff is very big. the tradition continues. i mention new jersey because you had one of the new jersey housewives on your program. you asked her to do something extraordinary. >> we did. it was actually something that she wanted to experience. she is normally 115 pounds, so she want to do put on a prosthetic on her face and put on a fat suit. >> gretchen: melissa gorga.

>> of "the real housewives of new jersey." >> brian: in real life she's hot. >> 115 pounds. >> gretchen: why did she want to do it? >> she want to do see what it was like because in her life, she's been treated totally different and she said it was one of the most emotional experiences that she's ever gone through. in fact, there was a kid who yelled at her in the subway, like why do you eat so much? >> gretchen: are you kidding? >> she got treated horribly. we show the difference because we send her out at 115 pounds where everybody was willing to pick up everything and the men paying her attention, to her feeling very alone. especially in hollywood where there are such weight issues and people are talking about body image and stuff like that. it was something that we wanted to investigate and something she wanted to be part of. so it will air tonight, thursday and friday. >> steve: we'll be too upset. >> gretchen: 'cause you have covered celebrities for so many years and you know a lot of these celebrity, the latest big news is that george clooney has a new girlfriend.

you probably were not envy use of stacy on "dancing with the stars" because you are as tall as she is and your leg goes up to your shoulders. >> they measured legs when i was on "dancing with the stars." i told george last night, this information is of no use to you, but we have the same length of legs. >> gretchen: that's because they should be in the guiness book of world records. >> steve: brian, we're what's your in seam? >> brian: that's a little personal, steve. >> gretchen: what do you make of this new relationship? >> i like them together. i've known stacy for a long time. she's a sweetheart and i've known george forever. >> steve: why doesn't he marry somebody yet? >> i say in hollywood he does it right because you go to a we hadding and by the time you get there in l.a. traffic, they're already getting divorce. i think he's smart when it. >> brian: here is the key with him. they're not mad at him when they break up. isn't it amazing? they stay friends. >> he's a guy. i think he treats them well. he's a good guy.

>> steve: does he still have that pot belly big? >> i think he passed away. >> steve: sorry to bring up all that. >> i know. >> gretchen: let's talk about another actor who will be playing elvis. >> yes. eric benna was cast in the unlikely meeting of the two people that took place in 1970. so this is going to be a whole movie about that unlikely meeting where elvis wrote nixon a six-page letter and wanted to become an agent. it should be interesting. >> steve: speaking of interesting, you got to tell us about your book called secret ingredients ." it looks like a cookbook, but it's not. it's a book on how to cook up a great scrapbook. >> it is. how to whip it up. i did it in conjunction with the most wonderful creative memories, who i love and adore and you know me from my photo albums and all the sentimental gifts i like to do. it is a cookbook, but not about food. it's the way to do step by step,

meaningful gifts because for all the holidays, thanksgiving, christmas, especially everybody is going to the mall, trying to buy the perfect gift and the best gift that i have ever gotten is a photo album that my husband made for me for valentine's day of all of our memories together of the first year. i always say that's the best gift. it doesn't matter how expensive, you go to the mall and you can't find it. >> steve: the gift of time. >> brian: one thing i do is i give gifts to people and i put in there, people they don't know. is that a problem? >> that might be a little bit of a problem 'cause you want it to be meaningful. >> gretchen: i'm so with you on this. i'm a big believer in scrapbooking and i learned it like you did, from my mom and from generations past. it does put a little burden on you because you got to make sure you're really organized. but i just put together some photo books for my kids and my mom said, could i have one of those? so it is a wonderful gift giving thing. >> everything that i have is products you can get at creative memories and their web site. all the stuff, you can do it on your own, but all the products

are easy to do. but you can make duplicates. you can buy digitally. it's great example of something unique that i think and i've done for my daughter. it's a grow with me tree album that y y give a child, maybe as a baby gift. so this is one of the ideas in the book. what you do is kind of a different take -- >> steve: you personalize it? >> you give them a tree, you give them this album and along with planting the tree and measuring it, you measure the child. it's a different way of doing a typical growth chart. this is a gratitude album and i think i mentioned it to you, it's an idea for my father-in-law, he was turning 80 and i made this book for him and i had everybody contribute to this gift. they all gave me pictures. they wrote a little something to him and told him what they appreciated about him. it's great thing to do and he told me he looked at this like 50 times. >> brian: it's called "secret ingredients." the secret is out. thank you for coming by. >> always good to be here.

always a lot of fun. i'll let you borrow my heels. >> brian: if you don't mind. >> steve: we'll see you tonight. >> gretchen: we got to do headlines. >> brian: new developments in the case of missing 11 month old baby lisa irwin. investigators now want her parents to agree to separate interviews. authorities say they have a list of tough questions that still need to be answered and would be better off if they talked to them apart. lisa has been missing since october 4. we'll see if their lawyer allows that. >> gretchen: a judge in florida got the go ahead to consider islamic law in his florida court? earlier this year, the judge drew a lot of criticism for saying that sharia laws were valid. that challenge has been thrown out. a lawyer for the mosque called this a big win for them and a victory for that judge.

>> steve: meanwhile, a big purchase by the u.s. state department on your dime. so far they have spent $70,000 of taxpayer money on coffees of barak obama's books, dreams for my father. the books were placed in key libraries in u.s. embassies all around the world and countries like egypt, south korea, indonesia. this is a first-time expense, neither george w. bush's administration nor the clinton administration did that. >> gretchen: coming up on our show, did you know at this exact time in the race for president in 2007, hillary clinton had a huge lead on then senator barak obama? 51% to 23%. so what can we learn from this in today's race for president? up next, a man who predicts races with 99.9% accuracy, dr. larry sabato. >> steve: i want to take him to the track. here is proof love really is blind. the couple that weathered the dust storm joins us live right here on "fox & friends." >> brian: we'll find out if they're still married.

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>> steve: welcome to sabato's crystal ball. the polls are all over the place in the presidential race. but our next guest says early poll results are far from a crystal ball into the future. in the democratic race exactly four years ago, hillary clinton's national polling average had her in a double digit lead over candidate senator barak obama. so are the numbers now just a case of election deja vu. dr. larry sabato joins us live. good morning. >> good morning inasmuch for people to go, it's a done deal, mitt romney is going to be the guy, when you look back, it

looked like hillary clinton it had sewn up four years ago. >> one of the fatal mistakes, ohm one that all pundits make is projecting today into tomorrow, next week, next month, next season. and we always do this, steve. 2008 figures are interesting. you're absolutely right. hillary clinton was ahead more than two to one over barak obama. you couldn't find a pundit who believed that she wouldn't win the nomination in 2008 and we all know what happened. look, this happens regularly. think of pat buchanan coming out of nowhere against george h.w. bush in 1992. think of steve forbes upsetting the coronation plans of bob dole in 1996. john mccain winning the hatch hamp primary against george w. bush in 2000. john considery coming back from object live onto win in 2004. all of these things happened late. these electates particularly in iowa and new hampshire, they do

as they please. they don't listen to you and me, steve. it's outrageous. they do not listen to you and me. >> steve: let's keep it that way. they can watch us, but shouldn't listen to us. so larry, does that mean that anybody in the republican ranks can come out to win ultimately, or is it pretty much down to a couple of guys or gals? >> look, you never rule out anybody who is on the ballot, who has paid the fees and who is in those debates. those debates have been critical. yes, we don't have as many coming up as we've had, but we've got a few in november, december, and especially january. they could change the calculus again. so it's easy to look at the polls and say, well, the ones who seem to have the money and the polling are romney and cain and perry. but who can say? gingrich has been moving up. others have shown life. so we have to wait and see. we have to be patient and patience is not a virtue to most of us in the political

community. >> steve: that's right. what about rick perry? yesterday he unveiled his flat tax. herman cain, most would argue, is at the top of the heap because he's got a very simple tax plan. 9-9-9. have you heard about that, larry? >> somebody mentioned it to me and i ordered a pizza the other day from godfather's, and it was 9.99. it really was. >> steve: fantastic. all right. so do you think perry is going to move up? >> look, he needed to do that to have a chance to move up. where did his votes go? he was the front runner. they mainly went to cain. why did they go to cain? people like cain, but they like the 9-9-9 tax plan. so perry has countered with his own creative tax plan. it's bound to help him somewhat. >> steve: thanks for appearing. now i'm hungry. >> get paula deen back. >> steve: love her. we love you, too. thank you for joining us. >> thanks a lot. >> steve: straight ahead, when we come back, they weathered the storm to find true love.

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>> gretchen: welcome back. all couples are bound to weather some storms together if they're

telling you the truth. but this couple had no idea it would start on their own wedding day! mother nature crashed their wedding ceremony and brought a sand surprise. gus and jennifer join us from arizona. good morning to the two of you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: so your wedding video has become an internet sensation because this dust storm just came right upon you as you're ready to do your vows. what are you thinking, gus, as you see this coming from behind? >> well, i was staring at jenny, ready to say our vows. the judge is repeating it and i say yes. then out of the corner of my eye i look up and i see this dirt, this big old dust storm about to hit us and i'm like, wow, we're about to get hammered by this dust storm and that's when you see my facial expressions and that's when jennifer turns around and see it is and it got out of hand after that. >> steve: we can just lip reading what, prosecute you saying right there? it looks like, oh, my.

>> i put my head down and said, oh, my god. this doesn't look good at all. >> brian: what is going through your mind? do you look for the priest for guidance in that moment, or do you just say to yourself, i'm going to keep working through it? >> gretchen: jennifer? >> go ahead, sorry. >> well, you know, we want to keep going through it, but we're kind of looking at the judge saying, you know, we need to get moving on this. this is coming in quick and you need to skip something or keep moving, talk faster. >> steve: it really moved in as you were doing a symbolic sand ceremony, right? >> yes. >> gretchen: which is what? >> well, instead of using the unity candle, since it was outside, we decided that we would use unity sand, and then little did we know we were going to get hit with a sand storm right in the middle of it. >> steve: had you used the candles, there might have been a flash fire or something like that. >> there very well could have been. >> gretchen: jennifer, i got to ask you and i don't know if the both of you participated in planning the wedding or if just

you or gus, but a bride is usually so nervous to make sure that every detail just comes together. is this something that you can look back on now and just say, well, this was one detail that was totally out of our control and ended up working out okay in the end? >> yes. most definitely. -- most definitely. it was a very easy -- i was a very easy going bride, i think, right? >> yes. >> we kind of planned the wedding together. it wasn't me more than him. you can't control the weather and it is what it is. it led to all of this. >> brian: your guests had a memorable time and next time they'll probably bring goggles when you renew your vows just in case. >> exactly. >> steve: by the way, congratulations, jennifer. we understand you are pregnant? what are you going o name your little girl? >> we're going to name her daniella. >> gretchen: not sandy? >> or dusty? >> no. >> gretchen: maybe for a middle name. >> maybe. >> steve: does your wedding dress -- i know you probably

packed it in a keepsake box. is it completely toast? >> not really. it wasn't too bad. we had gotten inside before any rain, so it's a little dirty, but it's not as bad as it could have been. >> gretchen: jennifer and gus, thanks so much. congratulations on your we hadding and the impending birth of your baby. >> thank you. >> gretchen: more "fox & friends" coming up. [ telephone rings ]

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