martha: pretty funny line. most parents don't want their kids watching the kardashians and feel it is funny when they end up watching it. bill: c-span is a load of laughs. martha: how about the outfits? bill: see you on the radio and see you tomorrow. martha: sieve you on radio, right you are, mr. hemmer. jenna: hi, everybody, we are glad you're not watching c-span right now. jon: that's right. >> you're watching "happening now.". we're glad you're with us i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. brand new numbers paint a grim picture of voter sentiment on the jobs front. jenna: according to new cbs-"new york times" poll 56% of americans say president obama lack as strong jobs plan. a little more than one out of two of us. listen to this. 71% say the same thing about congressional republicans,

jon, on tax reform, 65% say they would support a tax hike on millionaires if it went lowering budget deficit. jenna: when you break it out by part affiliation there is divide. 38% support the plan. majority does not but majority of independents and democrats do. support the tax you just mentioned. jon: what does this all mean in the red hot race for the white house? let's talk about it with karl rove,. former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush. a fox news contributor. nobody crunches the numbers better than karl does. first off, karl, we've thrown a lot of numbers at but i want to get this one to you. right wrong direction poll whether americans think the country is heading in the right or the wrong direction, a huge majority says, 74%, we are not headed into the right direction. it is pretty hard for any incumbent president to overcome that kind of number,

isn't isn't. >> oh, yeah. this is not only poll that has that number. another poll out of the associated press, the number is 70% think we're on the wrong track. when you have seven out of every 10 americans saying you're going the wrong direction and fewer than three out of 10, closer to two out of 10 we're come possible with it. it is bad environment for the incumbent chief executive. jon: yet his numbers stacked up pretty well in ohio when he was thrown up against some of the potential republican challenges. let me look at the rebubble can race right now in the state of ohio. obviously that is a pivotal state what it comes to electing a president. right now herman cain shows in the lead there, according to this quinnipiac poll with 40%. mid romney with 33%. governor perry of texas at 10%. what does that say to you. this is only three-man race. they boiled it down to those three contenders and those are the numbers they got. what does that say say to

you, karl? >> herman cain is on a roll. i think is sort of peaked. if you look at national polls on the herman cain, between the 6th and 10th of october when he hits the highest number on the polls and he slid since then. he has a small need. if you look at real clear politics average he has one point lead over romney. national polls don't mean that much. four years ago, rudy giuliani was first place 28. nearly 20% was fred thompson and john mccain and mitt romney were in a fight for third place back then in the low teens. what really matters what is candidate does to translate the strength that they have in a national poll into strength in these early states where iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada, to some degree florida where they insist seeing you, particularly first four, they want to see you before they make a conscience decision who they support. jon: who is the doing the best job doing that in your view? >> depends on the state. in iowa it is a jump ball.

michele bachmann is residual strength. from waterloo, iowa. represents nearby state. rick santorum camped out there. perry is only organization trying to build precinct by precinct by pre-sent organization. herman cain has the mo and romney has familiarity. we have a jump ball there. new hampshire is frankly romney territory. and some of these other candidates like herman cain have been there rarely and infrequently. same in south caroline. it tend to be a little bit more for perry there. cain in the lead probably but the guy with the people on the ground is romney. jon: well as those republicans fight it out to try to replace president obama in the oval office we mentioned earlier 56% of the americans think he does not have a strong jobs plan. i guess if you're the president the good news his the people seem to have an even worse opinion of any jobs plan possibilities coming out of the congress. >> exempt he will not be

running against congress. thrill with be something on the ballot saying mr. president here you had your chance. here is what you done. you failed to deliver. think about this. in the "cbs poll", you're right, only 38% saved the president had concrete jobs plan. what is interesting other polls gone deeper into the question, "washington post"/abc said at beginning of september what president obama done on economy helped hurt or had no effect. 46% said had no effect. 34% said made the economy worse. 81% of the people said what you've done on the economy, mr. president, number one issue had no effect or actually made things worse. you have one out of every nine, excuse me, one out of every five americans who either think it did a positive thing or don't know. that is not a good place for the president to be. jon: karl rove, thanks for crunching those numbers for us. we appreciate it. talk to you soon. >> you bet. jon: thank you. jenna: has the whiteboard. jon: oils boils it down. jenna: a lot of numbers. for a lighter moment if you will on late-night television, president obama

on "the tonight show" with jay leno. take a listen to this. >> have you been watching the gop debates? >> i'm going to wait until everybody is voted off the island. [laughter] [applause] once they narrow down to one or two i will start paying attention. jenna: comparison to "survivor" might work here. so far there have been eight gop debates. another 14, one, four, are scheduled. so there is quite a bit of work to go through. quite a built of rounds. we're now awaiting the president's plan for a brand new debt crisis. this one involving student loans, the biggest source of household debt right behind mortgages. this comes as college tuition rates soar. next hour the president will use his executive authority to help students and graduates lower their payments and consolidate loans. but one of the questions we're asking will these changes be enough. can the administration go further to help those overwhelmed by student

loans? should he do that by himself? fox business network rich edson is live in washington. a little ironic, rich, since you and i went to the same graduate school and know about spending a small fortune on student loans. what can you tell us about this? >> reporter: a little bit. i can tell you a lot about it. college board says for the 5th year in a row, jenna, tuition at public universities increased faster than private schools. it will cost a student 8.3% more in few wish00 than last. to confront the increases president will offer students a deal next hour. pay 10% of your income over 20 years and all federal loans are forgiven. white house will offer students a chance to consolidate the private loans for savings up to half a percentage point on interest payments. this is the latest move in a massive overhaul in the student lending business passed as part of the health care law. those changes are expected to change more than $60 billion for the government over 10 years. 10 billion of the savings went into the paying for

health care law. 50 billion went went into spending on education and grants. the white house says that a good deal for students. >> all of this is working together to create savings that are helping students that are helping families and also making sure that we're more competitive in the future because students will be able to go to college out this crushing loan debt. >> reporter: interest on federal loans next year will be 6.8% depending on the type of the loan. the government makes more than 90% of new student loans. jenna, back to you. jenna: rich, really quick on this. does this mean based on that setup following some of the numbers, will the government take a loss on any of loans depending what the student is able to pay back over that 20 year period? >> reporter: the way the government intends to pay is basically moving out of the private sector. what they have been doing years subsidizing private lenders to make student loans. they have removed that some of the changes will be paid for by that. you've been talking about default rates have been increasing.

8.8% is the last tally on that one for federal student loans. you imagine in if the economy remains way it is. jobs are tough for college graduates to find and students will default on their loans and the government is off the hook. jenna: that is interesting. government funding or taxpayer backing. rich, thanks very much. >> reporter: thanks. jon: have you paid off your student loans? jenna: i looked at them last night. it can be difficult to figure out at times. it affect as lot people. we'll find out more from the president at 12:45 eastern time. jon: congressional committees are investigating whether iranian cells are operating here in the united states. a rare public hearing underway in washington this after the alleged iranian-backed plot to assassinate saudi arabia's ambassador to the u.s. the suspect in that case pleading not guilty in federal court on monday. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington. what have we heard so far about this very strange case,

catherine? >> reporter: the republican mike mccall said the economic sanctions i am posed on iran are meaningless and not a dernt he pointed specifically to the aled plot to assassinate the saudi envoy in the united states as another example of the regime's sponsor hipp of tear rich. he -- terrorism. he urged the obama administration to take meaningful action. >> if it turns out that iranian assassination plot on u.s. soil was sanctioned at highest levels of the iranian government i believe military force should not be taken off the table. >> reporter: the hearing is entering its second hour. we heard from the congressman that said the alleged iranian plot to take out the envoy was a game-changer. while we've been focused on iran's nuclear ambitions the regime is thinking out of the box and continues to pursue more traditional terrorist operations, jon. jon: is it true you're hearing testimony there are other plots allegedly involving iran?

>> reporter: we're hearing from witnesses right now i would emphasize that people are being reminded before 9/11 the primary focus of the u.s. intelligence community and cia was hezbollah and not al qaeda and the committee was told iran has been responsible for more than 200 terrorists attacks including the '83 suicide bombing of the french and american military barracks in beirut that killed 299 people. 241 american servicemen were killed. most were marines. this was pretty graphic video shot after the two truck bombs struck the barracks. it was a seminal moment for the united states. single deadliest death toll in one day for the marines since world war ii. we'll hear from retired colonel who was former commander from those barracks. just as final headline a former cia officer has just testified that he believes iran has been very effective in setting up a network inside of canada and their intention is to move those operatives down into the united states, jon. jon: catherine herridge in

washington. keep an eye on that for us. >> reporter: sure will. thank you. jenna: now to a fox news weather alert. hurricane rina gaining strength taking aim at mexico. the storm is forcing hundreds of evacuations along the coast. it is now a strong category 2. here is what a cat 2 is cameable of. sustained winds of 96 to 110 miles per hour. it can cause damage to roofs and shrubs and trees and those can be taken down along with signs. a big problem if you live in mobile home communities. meteorologist janice dean is live in the extreme weather center looking at this storm. any chance it could drift into the united states? >> some of the computer models believe this will be south florida storm but it will weaken considerably. let's look at some of the images we're getting from the international space station taking a look at this late season storm. isn't that amazing? i love looking at these pictures from outer space. you can see the well-defined

eye off the coast of mexico. we're dealing with a category 2 storm. winds just shy of category 3. as we go further out in time we don't think this is going to strengthen to a cat-3 but it will be a very strong storm as it comes close or on top of cancun, mexico. that is not a good sign as we head further out in time again. category 2 just brushing the coast, northeastern tips of mexico. you see there is possibility it comes right towards the florida straits. here are some of the computer models as we go further out in the next several days. a lot of consensus here moving over mexico. then as we go further out in time some of the models bring it into the gulf of mexico and then south florida. so we'll have to monitor that. the other big storm we're watching of course is that bringing snow to denver, colorado. look at this, jon scott, up to or more than a foot of snow especially for the foothills. 63 yesterday. 32 at midnight. it is 28 degrees right now. it will be 55 on the

weekend. jon, you know how it goes there. jon: yeah. >> you blink and it changes. jon: it will be warm again. i hope they don't break too many of the tree limbs because they have all their leaves. >> good point. jenna: interesting. didn't think of that jd, thank you. we'll keep jon focused on the snow. once you see snow a little bit into the ski season and planning to get to the mountains. jon: making my ski plans already. brand new developments to tell you about in connection with a high-profile teacher sex scandal. today a former teacher accused having sex with students and plying them with alcohol presents her defense. a live report on all of that on the way. jenna: a bizarre story. meantime to the economy. new census data showing big drop in income for the middle class. what does that mean for our economy? jon: also the occupy wall street movement, it has spread across the country as you might know, sparking violent clashes with police in some spots. this amid word the occupy movement may have ties to the now-defunct community

activist group, acorn. details in a foxnews.com exclusive. that's ahead and it's "happening now."

jon: we're not going anywhere soon. that's the message from the occupy wall street-style protesters to the oakland, california, police after things got so tense authorities say they were forced to fire tear gas to break up crowds throwing sticks and cops at the rocks. rick folbaum has more. >> reporter: protesters say they're not going anywhere soon. police using tear gas, scenes you don't typically see at protest in the united states. we have video from the ipad. you look at the wild scene playing out in oakland, california. the occupy wall street group making camp in a park for the past two weeks. police said it was time for them to go. protesters though continue to say they're not doing anything wrong. listen. >> they shot tear gas into the crowd. flash bangs. women, children,

grandmothers, grandfathers they're all standing in the same spot. >> it was like ridiculous. wasn't no need to do it. they weren't doing anything but talking. >> they were hitting with bottles and rocks and had no choice to fire tear gas. they did it five times. each time the number of protesters went down. 200 lingered until 11:00 at night. covering their faces with bandanas to protect themselves from tear gas. in atlanta clergy was talking to protesters and following through on threat of arrests after those in camp for a few weeks refused to leave. at 1:30 this morning park was cleared to everything from s.w.a.t. teams to police on horseback. protesters are promising to return. the mayor is promising more arrests which the protesters say is no big deal. >> i will obey the police. >> you will obey the police. you will leave? >> i have people that i take care of. i have a job that i go to daily. i have a business that i run. i mean personally can not afford to go to jail.

>> what are you going to do tonight if they come and say it is time to go. >> me and my dog going to jail. >> this is it for me? >> i'm not here for a joke. i'm not here for a game. >> reporter: quickly, jon, in new york, maybe this shouldn't come as surprise. mtv is following a couple of protesters around with a camera crew for a reality show. jon: unbelievable. rick folbaum, thanks. jenna: meantime new questions raised about the occupy wall street demonstrations. eric shawn has the latest on foxnews.com exclusive, eric? >> reporter: jenna, occupy wall street protesters have apparently professional help that work for acorn the disbanded community group that shut down last year. foxnews.com reports that former acorn officials are playing key roles in the movement in part planning related demonstrations and strategy. the former acorn office in brooklyn, new york, is now head quart he is for a group called, new york communities for change. it's director, john kest is

former acorn official. he recently wrote on the group's blogs, quote, levels of inequity in this country and new york is out of hand. no one knows that more than working families that make up new york communities for change. that's why i'm excited to announce new york communities for change and many of our allies in community organizing and labor will be showing their support for occupy wall street. foxnews.com reports that he helped organize protests including the october 11th millionaires march where protesters went to homes of the wealthy and website called, occupy the boardroom. and there are also new questions being raised about fund-raising. foxnews.com reports that members of new york communities for change solicited donations for teachers union pro project but they said some of the money went to help protests. the union, united federation of teachers says the group did not raise funds for its projects and our repeated requests for comment from new york communities for change have so far gone unanswered. occupy wall street spokesman

told us he has quote, no understanding if former acorn officials are involved in their movement and he calls the claims unsubstantiated accusations. for more on the story go to foxnews.com. it is right there, right now on the front page. jenna? jenna: thank you, eric. we'll be right back.

jon: the defense begins its case today in a high-profile teacher sex abuse trial in ohio. 33-year-old stacey schuler, a former gym teacher in suburban cincinnati accused having sex with five former students and giving them alcohol last year. if convicted she faces decades behind bars. rick leventhal is on the story right here in our new york city newsroom, rick? >> reporter: jon, on the stand today say that stacey's schuler classes were always full even after the bell rang because she

was well-liked. she would never call schuler flirtation terrible schuss they say that she used her popularty to lure five boys back to her home and provided them with beer and pot and sex on multiple occasions. she faces 16 charges of sexual battery and three of providing alcohol to minors. allegedly hatched a plan before she was caught telling a couple girls she would plead insanity to beat the rap. those girls testified off-camera during this trial. >> she was not my friend and when i opened up and accepted the truth of what happened, i became very clear to me that i did not need to defend and sugar coat what this person did. >> reporter: well her alleged victims spent the past two days testifying in graphic detail what allegedly went on inside schuller's home. describing encounters in the bathroom and bedroom and

friday night sleepovers before saturday football practice. her lawyers say she is not of sound mind and may actually be the victim in this case. >> it is clear that stacey is vulnerable and impaired. young men, athletes, young men, saw an opportunity and thought nothing of having sex with a woman who was impaired on many different levels. >> reporter: vulnerable and impaired. schuller opted out after jury trial so a judge will decide her fate. she facing up to five years in prison on each of the sex counts if convicted, jon. jon: disturbing all the way around. rick leventhal, thank you. >> reporter: sure. jenna: all eyes on capitol hill where so-called super-committee is meeting. bipartisan group of 12 is cast with drastically slashing our national debt when no one is succeeded in doing that. will they beat the deadline. >> we'll have a live report on that. jon, of all the things you touch on the way to work today which do you think has

the most germs? escalator railings? atm buttons, gas up pump handles or mailbox handles? jon: i will vote. jenna: log on to foxnews.co foxnews.com/happeningnow. we'll talk germs with dr. marc siegel. one of his favorite topics by the way next on "happening now."

jon: fox news alert. we take you now to taran county, texas, where authorities are investigating the aftermath of a small plane crash. we're told it was a twin-engine plane and thought to be a commercial plane. whether that means passenger plane or simply a business plane we do not know. three people reportedly on board. two of them airlifted out of there. their condition unknown at this time. you can see there is not much left of that small plane that went down in tarrant county, texas. eagle mountain lake is roughly the locator. authorities are on it as the kdfw chopper. we thank them for this video. we'll keep you updated. jenna: back to washington, d.c. now. time is ticking for the so-called super-committee to find more than a trillion

dollars in deficit cuts. that's their goal. the 12 member group comprised of six republicans and six democrats has just 28 days to reach that deal. a hearing is underway right now as we speak on capitol hill. you see some of the video. that is congressman van hollen right now. he is a democrat. committee listening to the testimony of the head of the congressional budget office, a nonpartisan source of information when it comes to our finances. jim angle is live in washington taking a look at all this jim? >> reporter: hello, jenna. as you say the so-called super-committee has less than a month how to cut 1.2 trillion in spending over next 10 years. if the committee doesn't find 1.2 trillion in savings automatic cuts go into effect. half in domestic spending and half in defense which lawmakers do not want. democrats say too much is cut from non-defense spending which they say is smaller part of federal spending anyway. listen. >> congress has gone to this relatively small pots with

cuts in spending caps again and again while leaving many other pieces of the budget essentially untouched. >> reporter: now republicans worry as many defense analysts do about any further cuts to defense and the co-chair, jeb hensarling pointed to massive growth in government over last two years even as the recession dragged on. >> epa has grown 130.8%. the energy department has grown 170.7%. with the stimulus. education has grown 180.6% at a time when the economy has actually seen negative economic growth and family paychecks have shrunk. >> reporter: now cbo director elmendorf made clear whatever the committee does to cut defense or non-defense spending the bigger threat is unsustainable spending in the entitlements such as medicare. listen. >> entitlement programs, mandatory spending as a

growing share of federal outlays in some cases growing rather rapidly. without addressing that path of spending it would be extremely difficult to put the budget on a sustainable path. >> reporter: now the cbo director has warned the committee he needs its recommendations much sooner than the end of november just before thanksgiving in order to officially score the savings. sometime around the beginning of november which of course is next week. so, they are right up against the deadline, jenna. jenna: that is good reminder. i had to think about that for a second. november is already here. really quick, jim, as we were watching your report. we know the super-committee is part of this hearing going on right now. we're getting breaking newswires from reuters, citing congressional sources saying that the democrats on the committee are proposing upwards of $3 trillion in savings over the 10 years, so above that trillion dollar mark. they want half of that savings to come from revenue hikes or potentially taxes. just real quick here, is this political move? is this actually something

the democrats are proposing, uses media for pressure? what do you make of that? >> reporter: this is hardly a news flash since democrats have been talking 3 or 4 trillion quite some time. the republicans regard that as effort it up the ante in order to increase taxes. what republicans would like to do is reform taxes and they need the same sort of cuts in programs and tax expenditures which is to say deductions and so forth to pay for tax reform. so they would rather use the savings that democrats would use here for tax reform, rather than to up the ante on reducing the deficit. so this is something democrats have been pushing for quite some time as a stalking horse for tax increases. jenna: i bet we get a lot more of these congressional sources coming out ahead of the deadline. >> reporter: oh, yeah. jenna: they're trying to figure out what the right thing to do. big job. jim, thanks for looking into it for us and thank you. jon? jon: if the super-committee, jenna, fails to reach its goal a series of so-called

triggers would go into effect, essentially forcing hundreds of billions of dollars in automatic cuts. according to the congressional budget office as much as 600 billion would be cut from the defense department in that scenario. defense secretary leon panetta said it would, quote, truly devastate our national defense. cuts that deep would bring military spending to below 3% of our gross domestic product in this country. to give you some context, during world war ii, military spending was 38% of gdp. heritage foundation senior fellow and former cia officer peter brookes joins us for what this might mean for our national security. you broke it down, peter, in terms those kind of cuts what they would do to the marine corps, army, air force, that kind of thing. give us some of those nutshell statistics again? >> jon, i did it yesterday in the "new york post." if people don't catch it all it is on the "new york post"

website. if we have additional cuts the marine corps will be at smallest point in 50 years. army will be at numbers less than they were at 9/11. the air force will have 2/3 less fighters and bombers than at 1990. the navy will have about 200 to 240 ships which will put them at a level at the lowest level since world war i. world war i. so this is what we're looking at here. not to mention missile defense and a number of other programs that will be affected. basically the obama administration has already taken $850 billion in cuts, defense cuts since being in office and canceled 50 weapons programs, 50 majors weapons programs. we're on a glide path if we're not careful to becoming a second rate power in the world in the international system. jon: this at a time when we have wars in iraq and afghanistan, admittedly iraq is winding down. you have the afghan war still going on. you have troops in central africa now. you have our forces allied

with nato in libya. you have other hot spots in the world that are certainly worth keeping an eye on like for instance, north korea and of course the your rai rainians -- iranians who are stirring up trouble. >> and the chinese. we need a flexible, capable force. we don't want to send our young men and women in harm's way with old equipment. we've been at war for 10 years. we need to recapitalize the military. we need to defend and act on whole sort of contingencies. whether it is iranians. whether it is north koreans. whether it is the chinese. whether it is a resurgent russia. we need a military that will protect the homeland and equipment that will allow our troops to do their jobs overseas. jon: you talked about the 100 big defense programs that have been already cut. i mean looking at what has happened recently with anwar al-awlaki and even qaddafi being taken out in part through the use of those predator drones, that's a program that was authorized, what, 15, 20 years ago? >> that's right.

a lot of these systems are old. another thing, jon. they will probably reduce one or two carrier battle groups, carrier strike battle groups. we'll be down to less than 10 aircraft carriers. first time there is international crisis or international crisis hits the desk of the president the first thing he asks where are the carriers? we'll have a lot less carriers to deal with con things sis around the world. this is very, very serious stuff in. 10 years time we could be basically a shadow of what we were a few years ago in terms of military capabilities. jon: again, these are all possibilities we're talking about if that super-committee can't come up with some budget cuts elsewhere. peter brookes, from the heritage found. thank you. >> thank you, jon. jenna: on a lighter note you probably don't think of every day things you do on the way to work. it gets pretty routine, right? this might give a little notice. a new study on the dirtiest things we touch on a normal workday. we asked you of the top four

was worse. escalator railings, atm buttons, public mailbox handles and gas pump handles. escalator railings were the dirtyist. number one thing you touch before work is gas pump handles. second by atm buttons. and they're not much cleaner by a lot. we'll look at the list with medical a-teamer marc siegel. how dangerous are germs we're being exposed to? >> i don't want to turn everyone into germaphobes but this is common. these are things everybody touches. that is the problem. we pass the bugs from the hand to escalator railing to the gas pump. should worry about gas prices we're worried about bacteria on the gas pumps. the reason is because, 60% of the bugs that cause stomach infections are actually carried on your hands. jenna: when you touch something and get a germ on your hand, how long does it stay on your hand? >> great question. stays own your hand about a day or two.

jenna: really? >> you can pass it seven times before it fades. jenna: even with washing your hands? >> no. washing the your hands is the antidote. if you wash your hands for 30 seconds you get rid of most of it the biggest problem, it wasn't in the study, on way out of the handle take the door handle everybody touches on way in, you get the germs back again. hard to get rid of these germs. have to be conscious of it. hand wipes worse. jenna: what is better? anti-bacterial soap, wipes. >> washing hands keeps the hands moist. the wipes dry your hands. they crack and more bacteria come in. the study was ingenius because looked what bacteria used to feed themselves. i think it is pretty accurate. i think these are pretty big problems. we could ask your public officials to clean these things. jenna: shovel-ready jobs in a different way. germ-ready jobs. maybe we're onto something. >> also at gas stations. get the gas stations start cleaning pump handles. jenna: makes you not want to touch anything.

>> i want to shake your hand. jenna: you have the wipes during the comercial. dr. siegel, thanks very much. >> thank you very much. jenna: jon? jon: i will make jenna pump my gas from now on if that is okay. egypt in crisis. cop tick christians under assault. the government's role in the terrifying violence and the future of a country at a crossroads. also the american dream. troubling new signs about middle class income. fox business network's david asman weighs in next.

jenna: here's question when it comes to today's economy. what happens to the american dream if there's no american middle class? there is new signs today the middle class is fading. a usa today analysis showing the middle class is getting less of the pie, sharing less of the total national income. some are calling this the middle class squeeze. the question we have today, how is this changing merge? what does this mean for our economy? fox business network's david asman is here to work through this how would you tackle that question, david,

what this means for the economy? >> it is scary. the genius of our country is the middle class. the fact that most of the growth comes from the middle class. most of the new ideas come from the middle class. think of steve jobs and people like that created these businesses. he was out of the middle class. without a middle class we're in trouble. the mitt dill class is not going away but rich are get of getting richer and middle class is getting squeezed why? there are lot of reasons. we've have period of unemployment employment for so long. so when people don't have jobs that's key. also inflation is hurting people. inflation is squeezing the middle class. this government thought and federal reserve thought they could help get us out of the recession by increasing inflation, keeping interest rates low. what that has done made our trips to the supermarket very expensive and our trips to getting a load of gas very expensive as well. that is squeezing the middle class. but the key is growth. we to grow again. we have get the unemployment rate down.

until we do the middle class won't recover. jenna: we have all the different levels of classes. we talk about the rich, upper middle class, middle class, lower middle class. >> a pie chart into five parts. rich is top. poor is bottom and 3/5 is in the middle. jenna: let me ask you what is being said on occupy wall street. >> right. jenna: the street there say top 1% against rest of us 99% s that an accurate way? you said the rich are getting richer. >> it is not accurate. we still have close to majority middle class. the middle class that middle 3/5 represents about 50% of the economy in general. so we still have a majority middle class in this country. the one in 99% is not right. i've been to late earn america countries where you do have the 1% and that is not in country. jenna: is economy seeing strength of return to the middle class? is that the key indicator. >> that is one thing everybody agrees on liberals and conservatives we need to get the middle class

regenerated. way we do that is small businesses. like the middle class small businesses have been squeezed as well. they have been squeezed by regulations that are killing a lot of them. taxes going up locally and statewide is hurting them too. we need to give incentives for small businesses to grow because they're the ones that do most of the employment for the middle class, particularly. although liberals and conservatives have different methods how we get there, we agree on the end result. jenna: middle class focus. >> you're welcome. jenna: you will look at a lot of topics on your show fox business, 4:00 p.m., coanchoring with liz claman "after the bell". "america's nightly scoreboard". >> nice plug appreciate that. jon: asman never gets any older. >> unlike you. jon: oh. your morning coffee may do more than just jump-start your day. a new study shows caffeine could protect you from a deadly disease. we'll tell you about that. and, have you seen this guy?

we'll tell you where he mysteriously turned up and why he is in police custody now. rick folbaum with the latest on a very strange case coming up.

jenna: fox news alert. this is a big one when it comes to the new health care law. we're getting a report from the associated press that the supreme court could decide as early as november 10th, a little bit over two weeks from now, on whether or not they're going to hear a challenge to the health care overhaul. now, the reason why that is important, the november 10th deadline is important or that day is important because if they decide to hear these cases, these challenges to the health care law, then they could hear the arguments over that law by march and then they have several months to make their decision or to craft their own opinions to that argument. if that happens, that's ahead of the election of

course in november. that could be a little bit of a game changer if that is thrown it into their turn this time around. we'll keep up to date when we hear more about it. but again they could decide whether they will hear any arguments on the health care law on november 10th or a few days after that. jon: some new troubles to tell you about in egypt just months after the rebels there. attacks against coptic christians are very much on the rise. men tortured. women raped. churches burned. through all this the military police which used to protect the minority christian population seems to have taken sides against them. leland vittert is streaming live for us from cairo. leland? >> reporter: it is pretty scary here, jon, for christians in this community, not only in egypt but also in the northern part of the country here where 17-year-old boy was recently killed at school by a gang of alleged extreme muslims. the christians here say not only will they not get any

protection but it is actually the army who is taking shots at them. more than two dozen coptics died when the egyptian army opened fire as christians protested burning of yet another church. but the fear extend beyond destroying their buildings. just ask coptic politicians. >> christians are worried on every second you walk out, every chance you go to a church, every place you have your daughter go unprotected, you have a chance of somebody grabbing her and then you don't know where she's fon. >> reporter: one of cairo's churches the priest knows why his flock are being attacked. but for the people who fill these pews, some things are worth fighting for. >> because they believe. they believe in jesus. >> reporter: since the egyptian revolution, violence against coptics has spiraled out of control. they blame groups of hard-line muslims who want to bring sharia law to the country. >> in many ways of rule of law has been put aside for the rule of the sheikhs and

this is where, this is the new reality of egypt. this is where the problems are happening. >> reporter: the army is either overwhelmed unable or doesn't care about stopping the sectarian violence. >> the problem they don't catch the people who do that. they don't bring them to trial. if you don't do that, then you're sending a message it is okay to burn a church and go home and sleep. do it the next day and next day. >> reporter: so far 100,000 coptic christians have already fled egypt. those are of course the people who can leave. there is a fear there will be social discrimination against these coptics in addition to the violence. jon, we're recently hearing reports of coptics young girls being forced to wear headscarves to school. we have about a month until elections here in this country. jon, back to you. jon: some very scary changes in that country. that is certainly true. leland vittert. thank you. jenna: brand new developments in the search for baby lisa. why investigators are turning to other members of

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rick: i'm this shot was of a plane crash in texas. there may be survivors, a very small plane crash that went down. we'll get you the latest on that. a shot of a reporter getting ready to do a live shot inside of a building where president obama is getting set to give a speech on school afford built in denver, colorado. nice and cozy inside the hall, not the case outside. take a look at the scene in denver, colorado. they are expecting a foot of snow, the first major snowfall of the 2011 winter season. looks kind of pretty doesn't it? some of the stories we are following for you on the second hour of "happening now" which

starts right now. jon: good morning to you. i guess good afternoon here on the east coast. jenna: right. jon: as rick just said, "happening now" president obama is getting ready to talk about easing the burden for americans carrying student loans. jenna: i'm jenna lee. the president at the university of colorado campus in denver right now where it is snowing. he's expected to announce a new program to help college graduates that are struggling to pay for their education. he's hoping to provide a little bit of a solution here. ed henry has been travelling with the president and he's live in denver with more. hi,ed. >> reporter: good to see you, jenna. the president has just arrived at the university of colorado denver campus. he's going to unveil his student loan reform. number one he's going to cap how much the cost will be on student loans to 10% of your income, try

to get more money into the pobts of students, consolidate some of the student loans to cut the interest costs. republicans are raising questions about this. they think this is a back doorway for the president to reshape education policy. denver big for this president. in 2009 he signed the stimulus into law here. we decided to go over to the denver moo time of nature and science where he signed the stimulus and get voter opinion about the president doing a series of initiatives here we spoke to a republican and democratic voter, take a lesson. >> the elected congressman who represent you in the state you come from, don't elect a dictator. >> people are losing their homes and jobs. it's very hurtful. so whoever can get it done needs to get it done. if it's the president, more power to him. >> reporter: you hear that, for the democratic voter backing up

the white house and saying look there need to be action. people are hurting right now. we heard the president start the initiative monday in las vegas when we were traveling him, that refinancing initiative to try to keep people in their homes. now it continues with the student loan movement, very controversial back in washington. jenna: as ed mentioned this isn't the first time president has unveiled an economic measure of some sort that doesn't need congressional aeu property he's been very clear about that. take a listen. >> i also said that i intend to do everything in my power to act on behalf of the american people with or without congress. we are not going to wait for congress. i've told my administration to keep looking every single day for actions we can take without congress. >> we are going to look for opportunities to do things without congress, we can't afford to keep waiting for them if they are not going to do anything. jenna: chris stirewalt is fox news digital politics editor.

he's going to work with us withed henry to talk more about this. when the president puts forward these measures, whatever they are without congress, what is the affect for us? >> reporter: so far this could be woul one of the broadest ones with the student loans. there are 38 million americans who have student loans. the political ramification is this. you have a president who has never seemed to enjoy working with congress and enjoyed the legislative process despite being the first resident since gerald ford to rise from congress to the white house or to the executive branch. it's been troublesome for him. whether it's the authorization of the war in libya on one hand or the last three maneuvers, measures that he's laid out thatted described. the president does not like working with congress, and likes to circumvent it when he can. jenna:ed, it seems that the president has been very clear about saying, listen, congress is in gridlock, it's not working. we have to do something for the economy. is this the message that the

white house is attached to for let's say the next term? is this the message that they want to put forward that the president will work alone and not work with congress? >> reporter: well, there is no doubt an element of this. this is a swing state in colorado, one the president desperately needs in 2012. part of this of course whether the white house wants to admit it or not is messages ahead of the 2012 election. look, if republicans on the hill are going to block him he's going to move forward any way i talked to a white house aide who said we want to work with them, if they'll pass the jobs bill we could do some of the initiatives on the side and do twice as much for the american people to try to help them. a problem for the president is another initiative he laid out yesterday was his veterans initiative. try to get more employment for veterans coming home from iraq and afghanistan. they want to do some moving on that around congress as well. and they said because we can't wait for congress. well house republicans pointed out a few weeks ago they pass aide tax credit for veterans coming back from iraq and afghanistan to try to get employers to hire them.

they are saying look house republicans passed the bill, you're not waiting on them you're waiting on senate democrats and harry reid the majority leader to bring that bill up. some of the rhetoric may be caught in the fact that house republicans are moving on some of this. jenna: that's an interesting point when it comes to the rhetoric and impact. the president wants to say this is one of the ways we're really going to affect the economy. when the president acts alone what is the impact truly like? >> reporter: well, you know, you think about this. right now the president is under fire from his base. on the left many democrats say that he hasn't been forceful enough. he hasn't done enough. he's been pushed around by republicans on the debt ceiling and other issues. this is a way for the president even if these are relatively small bore initiatives for him to say to democratic voters in a state like colorado, i'm fighting, i'm willing to do whatever it takes, even if it is a sort of overriding congress on these issues, and that he's willing to blow past them calling them essentially

unworthy of coming to the compromise table again. so it's a risk but it may be one that he has to take with an unsettled democratic base. jenna: final question, chris, does he have the power to do these initiatives alone? >> reporter: well this one he certainly does, because one of the first things he did when he got into the white house was to push through legislation that federal liesess that sentra liesess within the federal government student loan programs an gave himself the power in a sense when he did that. so he's legally right, but it's a politically risky gambit. jenna: it will be interesting to watch. ed henry with the president, chris stirewalt in d.c. thank you very much to both of you. >> reporter: you bet. jon: a new push to repeal president obama's plan for long term healthcare insurance. after admitting the program is financially unsound, unaffordable and likely to collapse now opponents want to get it off the books for good. how do they do that? national correspondent steve

centanni live in washington. >> reporter: yeah, congressional house hearing underway right now in capitol hill, republicans push toeupbg repeal the long term healthcare plan after the obama administration decided pull the plug on it. it's called the class act and it was part of the obama healthcare reform law. the administration decided it was not financially sustainable and decided this month to put it on hold. republicans at this hearing today saying the administration knew three years ago the financial outlook for the plan was uncertain. >> as with other provisions of obamacare, the democrats didn't bother to fix the class act. they had every opportunity and they didn't work with republicans to find common ground. they were too busy using procedural tricks to cram through a law before even the public could realize what was in it. >> reporter: pushing for repeal of the measure, of course, part of a larger republican effort to repeal all the obama healthcare law. the problem of long term care continues with no other

government solution on the table right now. 15million americans will need long term care by 2020, even more in future years, and only 7 million have private long term care insurance right now. the class act was spearheaded by the late senator ted kennedy and today his son testified to the ongoing need. >> the whole notion of healthcare reform was to move us from a sick care system to a healthcare system. class act is a tool, and let's make it work for all of your constituents who are going to need the supportive services that are going to give them the human dignity that each of us would want for our own family members. >> reporter: republicans are proposing the idea of tax inch even teufs to help people buy long term healthcare insurance. jon. jon: steve centanni live for us in washington. jenna: the trial of michael jackson's doctor is back in session today. today dr.~conrad murray's defense team is planning to

shift care case to highlight the doctor's positive traits. something we haven't heard a whole lot about. adam housley is live at the courthouse with more. >> reporter: in fact court just began about three or four minutes ago. we are expecting to see five witnesses today. all the witnesses will say that dr. murray with us a good physician. one will talk about how he helped him with his heart attack and helped him recover from that and was very a tentative and followed through on things. this is a different story than we heard from the prosecution as they spoke about dr.~conrad murray and his lack of care for a number of patients besides michael jackson. they say his care led to michael jackson's death. it follows yesterday dramatic testimony from cherilynn lee. she is a holistic nurse in las vegas that was called to michael jackson's home a number of times. in the end she he wanted her to provide him with propofol. she did not give it to him and she told him he could meet his

end. take a listen. >> you indicated to michael jackson i understand you want a good night sleep, you want to be quote, and you used quote, knocked out, but what if you don't wake up, correct? >> yes. >> and he responded again, i will be okay. i only need someone to monitor me with the equipment while i sleep. >> yes, that's exactly what he said. >> reporter: again, that was yesterday during cross-examination by the prosecution. what this witness was supposed to do for the defense was help explain why michael jackson was addicted to sleeping drugs, why he needed these things to sleep and how he sought out anyone and everyone to do that. now what it did do though was a lo allowed the prosecution to reiterate even this woman who didn't have a medical license told michael jackson no. and dr.~conrad murray told michael jackson yes and that's what led to his death.

we have two more witnesses, the final one dr. paul white, the key witness for the defense and a good friend of the prosecution's star witness who we saw on the stand for a number of days, dr. steven shafer. dr. white is expected to give the opposite opinion of what dr. shafer said about how propofol killed michael jackson. that could come up as early as tomorrow. once the two witnesses are done the defense is expected to rest. this could, once again could go to the jury by the first part of next week. jenna. jenna: adam housley with the latest out of l.a., adam, thank you. jon: he was arising star in the democratic party, a guy who wanted to be president. former candidate john edwards, though, is heading to court now accused of illegally using his campaign funds to hide his mistress. his lawyers, though, say this case should be thrown out. we'll get into it. plus, csi it's not. we'll go inside a real life forensics lab, the surprising thing that authorities say is just as important to a terrorist

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jon: fox news alert. from time to time we bring you high-speed chases as they occur. well today we've got one that gets flipped on its head just a bit. this is a low-speed chase on the streets of los angeles. authorities believe that the person driving this car is a parolee. they were following the car, ran the plates, for one reason or another, we are not exactly clear as to why, discovered that he was a parolee drive the car, tried to pull him over, and he refused. now, we were just listening to the kttv chopper pilot that speculated that perhaps this is a third strike case. in california you have the three strikes and you're out felony law. you go to prison for life if you're convicted of a third felony. perhaps that's why he just doesn't want to pull over, but

he doesn't want to pull over. let's listen into the k t-rb tv chopper pilot. >> if he was innocent he would have pulled over and asked the officers what seems to be the problem. he hasn't done that. the only good thing about this. we've seen so many of these pursuits, steve, these drivers can be so erratic, perhaps on some sort of narcotic, be driving at really high rates of speed and really putting the public at jeopardy here. that is just not the case here. he busted through that stop sign, yeah, but he's keeping his speed down to about 25 to 35 miles per hour in this residential area of san pedro. they write him up. he's going to have a laundry list of infractions. that's right. and sometimes -- once it gets coverage like we're doing you'll

start to see some people, oh, i know that street, they'll run out and they'll wave to him. westbound 13th. you're exactly right. see that is the situation, you're right. he looks like he's going to make another left turn here. he really is doing circles here. that was against the light again, and you can see that car pulled over very quickly, very good job by that suv there. jon: they are pursuing a silver car at low to moderate speeds there on the streets of los angeles. he is crossing the double yellow line, blowing through intersections, running stop signs, et cetera. you can't exactly call him a safe driver but on a scale of one to tennies maybe a five. jenna: as again the helicopter reporter mentioned traveling at relatively slow speeds 25 to 35 miles per hour in a residential area that we heard, jon before we got back on the air, usually it's very busy, children are going to school and things are a bit quieter now. one wonders when does he just pull over. when do the cops get him off the street? because as he's still driving he is a threat.

jon: he's passing cars on the right there. for whatever reason he wants to keep this thing going. we mentioned earlier the police believe that the driver of this car is on parole. they ran the plates on the car, which leads you to believe that maybe the car was involved in some kind of a traffic infraction or looked suspicious or something, for whatever reason they ran the plates, discovered that the driver is thought to be on parole and i have to assume that by now he's a parole violator. one of the things you're supposed to do when you're on parole is if a police officer asks you to pull over, you're supposed to pull over and he is not doing that. jenna: an extent point, jon. we've been watching this for a little bit, san pedro, california, according to our helicopter reporter. it looks like he's picking up a little bit of speed. 25, 35 miles per hour. we know there is the driver in the car. the helicopter reporter says the windows are slightly tinted. you never know if there is

someone else in the car, another element that makes this driver he's not going to pull over. just after 9:00am on the west coast, a little bit africa muter hours, always busy streets in the l.a. area. we still don't know the motivation for why this guy just isn't pulling over, jon. jon: you know the authorities would like to get the spike strips down if they could. they are pneumatically opted strips that they lay down in the road. when they see the car coming they inflate them, it's the equivalent of putting big nails in the air long enough for one car to run over them, then they are retracted. the problem is trying to figure out where the guys are going, when he's on city streets like this there is no way to know where he's going to be and where they can put the stripes down. jenna: as the helicopter pilot mentioned or reporter mentioned -- you can see some other helicopters flying into our vision right there. there are other folks covering this. probably the l.a.p.d. as well taking a look at what is going on here.

at this point he is not, or she, you never know, isn't threatening anyone on the roads. you can see the cop card trying to come up behind him, jon. when you talk about the pitt maneuver it usually happens at a higher speed. is there anything the cops could do with this car at this speed. jon: they could probably get away with making the pitt maneuver work. that's where they nudge the quarter panel of the car with the front of their patrol car and take the weight off the rear wheel, they nudge the car in such a way that the driver loses control and spins out usually they try to spin them into a wall or another parked car or something like that. jenna: tough to do on a busy road, right. jon: it is. and they try not to do that unless they absolutely believe that the driver is going to hurt somebody or kill somebody. i suppose they are thinking that this guy seems to be maintaining control of his speed and maybe, you know, he's not going to cause an enormous accident at the end of all this. but you never know. if he were to stray across the

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jon: fox news alert, back to the streets of los angeles where it's about 9:25 in the morning, and police are still involved in what they are even acknowledging essentially as a slow speed pursuit of a silver compact car. just a moment ago they thought they had him boxed in at an intersection where other traffic had stopped in front of him and he had cars, left, right and center, couldn't go any where. the police tried to pull around him and box him in and somehow he squeaked out of here. this thing goes on. as we understand it the registered owner of this car is believed to be a parolee, and --

there it looked like they tried to pull the pitt maneuver there, tried to nudge the rear wheels of that car around in such a way that the driver loses control. they've apparently decided that they are on a stretch of road where they can make that happen without endangering the lives of innocent civilians, that's always the tough call that these cops have to make. jenna you were just talking about it during the break, imagine the adrenaline that is pumping in the chests of these officers as they try to pursue this guy, they are going, you know, with sirens, red lights and everything else, he's blowing through intersections, they have to worry about innocent people, and this guy, believed to be a parolee, who may have an arrest warrant out -- well this guy is just, you know, making a mockery of the whole system. jenna: a little bit of frustration as well as adrenaline i'm sure, jon. from what we can tell they've been following this car for a little while now, just after 9:00am. they've been following this guy

for maybe 25 minutes or so. basically if you're just joining us this has been in residential areas. the car driver has been running stop signs and stoplights, but as far as any major erratic behavior it hasn't been the case. let's see, the cop is trying to come up on him jon. you mentioned we don't have a lot of people and cars on the street. it's vacillating between low and medium speed. the guy hasn't stepped on the gas yet. jon: imagine being the cop you don't want to cause a collision yourself. you saw him going over the double yellow line. we will keep an eye on this and tell you if it's brought to a successful conclusion. in the meantime the president is in my home state of colorado making remarks at the university of colorado at denver. he plans to introduce his plans to try to reduce the debt load among students who took out student loans and are having difficulty paying them back. let's hreug even for a moment. >> the reason i've been hitting the road so much is because the

folks i'm talking to in cities, and small towns, and communities all across america, let's face it, they are making a little more sense than the folks back in washington. [cheering] >> here in colorado you've got folks who are spending months, some years looking for work. you've got families who are making tough sacrifices just to pay the bills, or the mortgage, or college tuition. and americans know we need to do something about it. and i know this is especially hard for a lot of young people. you know, you guys came of age at a time of profound change, globa globalizatino and

technology have made the world much more competitive, although this offers unmatched opportunity, i mean the way that the world is now linked up and synced up means you can start a business that is global from your laptop. but it also means that we are going to have to adapt to these changes, and for decades too many of our institutions from washington to wall street fail to adapt, or they adapted in ways that didn't work for ordinary folk, for middle class families, for those aspiring to get into the middle class. we had an economy that was based more on consuming things and piling up debt than making things and creating value. we had a philosophy that said,

if we cut taxes for the very wealthist and we got environmental regulations, and we don't enforce labor regulations, and somehow if we let wall street just write the rules, that somehow that was going to lead to prosperity, and instead what it did was culminate in the worst financial crisis and the deepest recession since the great depression. for the last three years we've worked to stabilize the economy and we've made some progress, an economy that was shrinking is now growing but too slowly. we've had private sector job growth but it's been offset by layoffs of teachers, and police and firefighters in the public sector, and we've still got a long way to go. and now as you young people are getting ready to head out into

the world, i know you're hearing stories from friends and classmates and siblings who are struggling to find work, and you're wondering, what is in store for your future? and i know that can be scary. [cheering] so the work -- all right. thank you guys. we're looking eight right now. no decision has been made. and i know your deep concern about it. so we will address it. now, so here is what i also know, and i know that's true for folks who are concerned about the environment, folks who are concerned about foreign policy, but also folks who are concerned

about the economy. when i look out at all of you i feel confident because i know that as long as there are young people like you who still have hope, and are still inspired by the possibilities of america, then there are going to be better days for this country. i know that we are going to come through this stronger than before, and when i wake up every single morning what i'm thinking about is how do we create an america in which you have opportunity, in which anybody can make it if they try no matter what they look like, no matter where they come from, no matter what race, what creed, what faith, and the very fact that you are here investing in your education, the fact that you're going to college, the fact that you're making an

investment in your future tells me that you share my faith in america's future. [applause] [cheering] so, the truth is the economic problems we face today didn't happen overnight and they won't be solved overnight. the challenges we face on the environment or on getting comprehensive immigration reform done on all these issues we'll keep on pushing and it is going to take time to restore a sense of security for middle class americans. it's going to take time to rebuild and economy that works for everybody, not just those at the top. [cheers and applause] but, but there are steps we can take right now to put americans back to work and give our economy a boost. i know it, you know it, the

american people know it. you've got leaders like michael bennet and mark udall and diana debette are looking out for you, but the problem is there are some in washington --, there are some in washington who don't seem to share this same sense of urgency. you know last week for the second time this month republicans in the senate blocked a jobs bill from moving forward. [booing] now this is a jobs bill that would have meant nearly 400,000 teachers and firefighters and first-responders back on the job. [applause] it was, it was the kind of proposal that in the past has gotten and democratic and republican support. it was paid for by asking those who have done best in our society, those who have

made the most, to do just a little bit more. and it was supported by an overwhelming majority of the american people. but they still said no. and it doesn't make sense. how can you say no to creating jobs at a time when so many people are looking for work? it doesn't make any sense. so the truth is, the only way we can attack our economic challenges on the scale that's necessary, the only way we can put hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people back to work, is if congress is willing to cooperate with the executive branch and we are able to do some bold action like passing the jobs bill. [cheers and applause] that's what we need. and that's why i'm going to keep, i am going to keep forcing these senators to vote on common sense, paid-for jobs proposals and

i will need you to help send them the message. you don't need to tell michael bennet. he is already on the page but i'm going to need you guys to be out there calling and tweeting and all the stuff you do. [laughing] but, but listen, we're not going to wait though. we're not waiting for congress. last month when i addressed a joint session of congress about our jobs crisis i said i intend to do everything in my power right now to act on behalf of the american people with or without congress. [cheers and applause] we can't wait for congress to do its job so where they won't act, i will. [cheers and applause] and that's why in recent weeks we've been taking a series of executive actions.

we decided we couldn't stop, we couldn't just wait for congress to fix no child left behind. we went ahead and decided, let's give states the flexibility they need to meet higher standards for our kids and improve our schools. [applause] we said we can't wait for congress --. jon: the president there, among other things blaming republicans in the senate for the failure of his jobs bill to pass. it bears noting a number of democrats voted against that bill as well. if you would like to continue to listen to the president's speech we have it streaming live for you on foxnews.com. the president speaking in denver, colorado, right now. jenna: all right, jon, from colorado we'll go back out to california where we were watching a car chase take place over the last 20 minutes or so and it just came to conclusion and this is what happened. what do we say about this, jon? jon: the guy, one of more bizarre endings i've ever seen. turns the corner.

just stops after leading all those black and whites on quite a lengthy low to medium speed chase. he is sitting there. you think it is all over. it will end with a whimper, not a bang, right? jenna: what else would happen? jon: what does he do. throws open the car door and takes off running. what happened then? jenna: oh. jon: well it looks like, you know, when i played high school football they taught us about the angle of pursuit and one of those companies had a very good angle of pursuit on that suspect. we're back live now, with a little bit of a view under that vie a duct where you can see, something, they apparently have him cuffed and on the ground. it all happened under neelth -- underneath the overpass. we don't know exactly what happened to the guy. jenna: we know he is in does did i. as far as anything else why he is running. we do have reports out of l.a. that he was a parolee. jon as you mentioned

california a three-strike state, one more violation you could go to prison for life. you can make him out in the middle of your screen. we'll get you more information. a low car speed chase and a low run to finish it up. the man and driver is in custody and we'll try to get you more information as we get it into the newsroom. jon: if he goes back to prison maybe he can work on his sprint speed. well, there's competition on the campaign trail over tax reform. republican presidential candidates calling attention to their rival economic plans. mitt romney's proposal is in the spotlight today after rick perry's call for a 20% flat tax as one option for taxpayers. fox business network correspondent peter barnes live in fairfax, virginia. so, peter, is mitt romney under pressure to propose some variation on the flat tax of his own? >> reporter: well, jon, if he is he didn't show any of that today at a rally here earlier this morning.

governor romney announced his own tax proposals back in september and said that, for now at least, he is sticking with those. take a listen. >> i like my tax plan better. as you might not be surprised to hear which has a number of features. my view is that the key to a tax policy is to reduce the tax burden on the people who have been hurt most by the obama economy. and that is the middle class. >> reporter: but he did say he would support lower, flatter tax rates as part of overall tax reform if he becomes president. jon? jon: so what are the details? that is always where the devil lies, in the details, right? >> reporter: back in the plan he announced in september he basically supports making permanent the current bush tax cuts. he also would eliminate capital-gains taxes, taxes on interest, taxes on dividends for families making under $200,000 a year. he would support lower corporate tax rates as well.

those are the main provisions of his tax plan. jon? jon: peter barnes reporting live for us. peter, thank you. jenna: a lot more coming up. new revelations by the way in the death of amy winehouse. we'll get a little bit more into that. meantime the latest out of the connecticut. the home invasion case we're now in the penalty phase. our very own laura engles is in connecticut coming up. [ male announcer ] to the 5:00 a.m. scholar.

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is a critical development. all live, all right here. starts at 1:00. see you then. jon: right now, some new infaux on international stories we're watching from inside our control room. turkey is struggling to provide shelter for tens of thousands of its people still homeless three days after a 7.2-magnitude earthquake struck there. as each day goes by hope is fading for finding more survivors. for the first time the governor of bangkok is ordering a partial evacuation as floods threaten the capitol city of thailand. the rising waters have already left hundreds there dead. death by misadventure. a british coroner rules amy winehouse died by accident from alcohol poisoning. her blood-alcohol level was five times the legal limit for drunk driving. jenna: right now a jury in connecticut is set to hear a second day of testimony as they decide whether a convicted killer should be put to death. that is him on the screen. his name is joshua

komisarjevsky. he was convicted by the same jurors of killing a woman and her daughters in a home ininvasion back in 2007. you know his accomplice. his name is steven hayes. he is on death row. his fate is less certainty time, life or death? lawyer re epg gels live in the newsroom. >> reporter: all eyes on the defense as joshua komisarjevsky's lawyers fight to save his life and convince the jurors to give him life in prison without the possibility of parole sentence. enough the judge granted a defense request to switch side with prosecutors today for this portion of the penalty phase so that they, and komisarjevsky could be closer to the jury box. that also puts the convicted killer within a few short feet of the family members of the victims who sit on that side of the courtroom. so far today komisarjevsky's adopted father benedict has taken the stand, telling jurors about his distinguished family tree and his son's early years. the yesterday the defense

told jurors they would hear stories komisarjevsky sexual abuse and torture at hands of older foster child brought into the family home. the defense claims that komisarjevsky's parents who are deeply religious never sought medical or mental health treatment for their son and instead turned to god and the church to quote, exorcise the demons. prosecutors kept their presentation to jurors very short saying the evidence presented in the guilt phase of the trial that included all those images we've seen of the burned out petit home and autopsies and all that testimony was enough to prove that komisarjevsky's crimes should be considered cruel, heinous and depraved which is something they must prove to jurors in order for them to give komisarjevsky the death penalty. his adoptive mother will testify next. judy komisarjevsky is expected to describe more of her son's upbringing before he turned to a life of crime. her testimony is expected to be longer than his father's. jenna. jenna: we'll continue to watch the developing story. laura, thank you. jon: there is a new plan to

get americans back to work. it could save taxpayers millions. sounds good, right? why is it so controversial? details on that next. plus, have you seen this man? where he washed up and who authorities think he might belong to. ♪

jenna: he comes in eight feet tall. a lean 100 pounds on no one is quite sure how he washed up on a beach in florida.

rick folbaum. working hard to find out where this mystery man is from, rick? >> reporter: not working that hard to be honest with you on this particular story, jenna. jeff was enjoying an early morninging stroll on the beach when he discover ad large life-sized body washed up on the shore. it happened in west central florida. police are calling him leg go man. john and i agree he looks more like the play mobile characters. any way you take a look at him. if you experienced a childhood anytime last seven years you know why they're calling the guy nickname they are. eight feet tall. fiberglass and cryptic grammaticly incorrect message on him that reads, no real than you are. not sure what that means. no one knows where he came from or who sent him. the strangest part is this is not first time it happened. a few years ago one of the guys washed up on the coast of am her dam. and year after in england. leg goes are made in denmark

and the company says they have nothing to do with this. one possible lead on statute's shirt. the name ego leonard is posted there. number nine. that is name of a dutch artist on his or her website which is mostly written in deutch and i'm not an expert. not fluent. the phrase, no real than you are is there along with an image of this character. an e-mail sent to the artist got the reply. nice weather earth here and friendly people. i think i'm going to stay for a while. leg go man is hanging there for police in florida. they keep him 90 days. they will return him to the guy who found him who says he plans to sell him on ebay. there you have it. jenna: interesting. we covered a lot of ground there the. jon: have you checked it out not a trojan horse kind of thing? not full of alien i had traders i hope? >> reporter: good question. jenna: we'll get on that. rick, thank you. the weather is nice here. that was an interesting response, right? jon: anything for publicity. a battle over logging in

national forests pits the environment against the economy in some circumstances. dan springer is live in seattle with one of them. dan? >> reporter: yeah, jon, house republicans say they have a plan that would put thousands of people back to work and save taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars a year and as an added bonus would make the u.s. forests healthier and less prone to catastrophic wildfires. in the last 20 years here in the pacific northwest we have lost about 11,000 logs jobs. hard it hit areas rural counties where most of the land belonging to federal government around designated u.s. forest land. in the county there used to be 10 sawmills. now they are all shut down. the gop plan calls for lifting some environmental regulations that led to 80% drop in logging in national forests. it would streamline the appeal process when timber sales are proposed by forest service. the goal would be to get logging levels back to closer historical levels seen between 1980 and 2000.

>> federal lands where there are forest were designed to be multiple purpose. that means commercial activity. now if you want something that people aren't going to go into, that is why we have wilderness areas. >> reporter: environmental groups opposed measure. saying it would lead to return of timber wars sparked by heavy logging and its impacted on endangered spotted owl. republicans argue the owl has not recovered even with a sharp reduction in logging. this would be a way to reduce the federal debt by ending annual timber payments to rural counties. green groups say it is shortsighted. >> it will throw this back into the courts because it is not legally sustainable. it is not biologically sustainable and not economically sustainable. >> reporter: last year those timber payments to rural counties cost taxpayers $364 million. hastings bill would end the subsidies but next change allow logging counties to keep most of the money from those federal timber sales. jon? jon: interesting stuff. dan springer, live from

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