going to see a lot of snookies dressed up in new jersey. don't take too well to that. have great weekend, everybody! bill: monday is happy halloween. march we're going to be dressed up on halloween, right? >> bill -- bill: boo! yes, i am. martha: "happening now" starts right now. happy weekend, everybody. jenna: hi everybody, we start with this headline, two major developments in the search for baby lisa, calling into question the next step in solving the mystery of what happened to this little girl. we're glad you're with us on a friday, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. we're here in the fox news room and "happening now, a sudden about face, investigator interviews with baby lisa's two brothers are on hold. jenna: we're also hearing reports of a rift between two attorneys representing baby lisa's parents, one lawyer reacting to reports, the other, fired her from the legal team. jon: this after a sudden

search yesterday of a nearby pond, near to the family home that turned up nothing. mike tobin is live in kansas city, with the latest on this very strange case. what is prompting the postponement of these interviews, mike? >> reporter: well, you did clarify it right, we got it from kansas city police that the interviews with the siblings was postponed, not canceled, but it comes as a spat between the lawyers representing the parents boils over into a public forum, the information that that interview was postponed came at the office of the very high profile new york attorney joe tacopina and was relayed to the kansas city police but it comes at the same time information was relayed the local short, cyndy short had been muscled off or fired off the case. she responded, saying that joe tacopina isn't in a position to fire anyone because she works for the client not for a lawyer. we expect a statement from cyndy short's office this

morning, jon. jon: so the pond search yesterday, tell us about that >> reporter: right. well, that was generated simply because of proximity, according to police. the pond is not too far away from here and police say they simply searched that because it's close to the house, it was another stone they wanted to turnover -- turn over, a was a quick search the lake. it didn't have any results. jon: and we still don't know what happened to that little girl. mike tobin in kansas city, thank you. jenna: fox news is your election headquarters. herman cain, hoping to win support with voters in alabama this time, the presidential candidate is visiting talledega right now, and he's talking about his 999 tax plan. i just got to count to make sure i got them in there, jon. you don't want to miss one or add one! peter barnes is live with herman cain and peter, that's right, you got to keep the three, but there are addictions and subtractions to the plan. it's changing a little bit.

tell us about that. >> reporter: that's right, herman cain is in alabama today, he's actually going to be registering for the republican primary in march but already stumping for votes and he's pushing his # 99 plan which has catapulted him to the frontrunner status according to the latest fox news poll but he has been making modifications to the plan after criticism that it could raise taxes for lower income americans. so he announced just and the -- within the last few days that he will amend his plan to make sure that no one, no family that makes under $22,000 a year, would pay any taxes under his plan. that's the federal poverty line. that's about 46 million people, about one in six americans, jenna. jenna: peter, the triple nine certainly got a lot of attention, some poking fun at it, as well, calling it the famous pizza plan, all that stuff, but what is it to the economic plan? is this the plan, or are there other parts of it we should know about?

>> reporter: well, 999 is the cornerstone of his economic plan, but he does, of course, have some other proposals. he wants to eliminate the capital gains tax, the estate tax. he also wants to cut federal spending and including reforming entitlement programs among other proposals. jenna: peter, a lot of energy on the streets there? people glad to see him? >> >> reporter: oh yeah! yeah. it's probably going to rain here. so they're moving it inside to this theater. and people have been lining up all morning to go in. so it's going to be a packed house. jenna: we talked about momentum. just wanted to know what the reaction was like. peter barnes, thank you very much. jon: president obama is letting himself off on a technicality. during the 2008 campaign, you might remember mr. obama said, quote, lob imrises will not work in his white house. but dozens of former lobbyists are, in fact, working in the administration. and with fundraising, obama

campaign touts registered lobbyists are not allowed to give money but the democratic national committee is getting a way around that. here now, chris stierwalt, daij it will politics editor and host of power play on fox news live.cole. what happened to the lobbyists won't work in my white house pledge, chris? >> it depends upon your definition of the word "lobbyist" and what your definition of the word "work" is and what your definition of the "white house" is so it's the way in which the president is technically able to fulfill pledges about lobbying but at the same time operate in a pretty standard operating fashion for washington. jon: a couple of names are mentioned in your power play. sal gentlemen sussman was head of logging for drug maker pfizer, she's raised, what, a half a million dollars for the president's campaign? >> >> reporter: yeah, that's what "new york times" reported today, 15 or more of these folks who are engaged in lobbying activity, but because they

are not registered lobbyists, they don't fall underneath the obama campaign's prohibition against contributions, so they're able to not only give their own money, but bundle contributions from other well-heeled donors and continue to do so and have brought in at least $5 million for the president so far, the "times" says. jon: let's turn to some republican politics now and something that you said ought to have some of the candidates shaking in their shoes. it was a remark that congressman ron paul made, presidential candidate on the republican side, obviously, he made it to bret baier. take a listen: >> would you pledge here tonight you would not run in a third party? >> i pledge that i have no intention of doing it. >> [laughter] >> jon: that's not exactly saying he wouldn't run. is that raising some concerns among other candidates? >> no door is slammed there. and the thing for other campaigns is this. they have to figure out which one of them trips the trigger for paul, who is a

staunch conservative, who is a libertarian, who is ideas first, which one of these candidates would be the one, would it be mitt romney who is more moderate than the rest of the field except maybe jon huntsman, rick perry who has tangled with paul supporters for a decade, would it be herman cain, a former federal reserve member of kansas city and which one might trip a third party candidacy for paul and quite possibly deliver a second term to president obama. jon: meantime mitt romney and governor perry are going at it in new hampshire, mitt romney is really rip going the governor. isn't i -- doesn't i guess painting him as an outsider who will take any position, huh? >> well, and certainly perry is hitting back on the flipflop allegations against romney, positions on guns, on abortion, on gay marriage, a host of issues, the same kind of attacks that hurt romney in 2008.

what romney is reap hoping for here is he can prevent perry from laying out his own campaign, and his own argument, and keep him in a slugfest that hasn't hurt romny but hasn't done favors for perry. jon: chris stierwalt, all things political, host of power play, thank you, chris. power play runs live on the web, go to fox news.cole and click on the link. right there you see it in the upper right hand corner of the screen. jenna: "happening now", authorities are investigating a horrific crash on an indiana highway. harris faulkner is on the breaking news desk and has more on the story. >> reporter: let me catch everyone up on what happened. late last night, family of at least ten people in a van, they're believed to have possibly been ecuador immigrants living in the chicago area, witnesses say apparently hit a dear or something in -- a deer or something in the road and had slowed down or stopped,

a semi tractor trailer then hit the back of that mini van, seven people died, including an infant. none of them, we're told, was wearing a seat belt, and the baby was actually in a car seat but it wasn't put in the car properly. we've got two people currently, they were air-lifted from the scene. you see some pictures from there, still photos coming into fox news from there. they are currently listed in critical condition. then the driver of that semi trailer also hospitalized. we do not know his condition. but what we have just learned in the last little while, and i mentioned the word family, state police in indiana now believing that the seven people who perished in this were all members of the same family, jenna. they're still looking to definitively determine what caused this. but again, witnesses suspecting it was something in nature, possibly a deer that they hit. we're learning more information about this, we'll continue to stick on this to see the conditions, if they improve, of the other two people who were hospitalized from inside the mini van, as well as the tractor trailer driver. just a horrible, awful scene

on an indiana tollway owl near bristol, near the michigan state line. jenna: we're hoping for the best for the survivors, thank you. jon: there's a growing list of lawmakers in washington calling on attorney general eric holder to resign in the wake of the fast & furious scandal, that's the botched drug trafficking sting or gun trafficking sting, i should say, linked to the death of a u.s. border agent. a key member of the house judiciary committee joins us to talk about that. jenna: we're going to dig into that, as jon mentioned. in the meantime, winter weather, and it's not even halloween yet. where heavy snow is forecast way ahead of schedule, but i don't think there's snow forecast in st. louis, jon. jon no, because that is where the cliffhanger take place. the amazing hit that sets the world series to a decisive game seven. and a home town hero makes the play. [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables?

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jon: a fox news alert, and a police chase taking place right now in residential streets in dallas, texas. the person driving that silver car in the upper lefthand corner of the screen just behind the trees, as you can see, is someone -- well, and we thought maybe it was coming to an end. somebody who is wanted by police, apparently, they tried to pull him over. we're told in the 4200 block of north jim miller, that's the road in dallas, texas, and this driver took off. why? well, who knows! you never know why these things happen. but kdfw is on it from their chopper, as you can see. it is going through residential streets and it even looked like an alley there a moment ago, but police are continuing the pursuit. jenna: we're trying to find out more information about exactly this area that the cars are driving around at

this time. it looks mainly residential. we're nearing mid-day, about an hour difference in dallas, just after 10:00 in the morning, so most of the commuting traffic is gone but the big question is why this guy is running, it's always the question in a car chase. we don't know if anybody else is in the car. a little dejavu, earlier this week we had another car chase at a low speed in los angeles, so a little bit of a turn here. wonder what's going on. jon: that's certainly the case, jenna. this guy doesn't seem to know exactly where he's going, just driving around residential streets. it's all taking place a little south of the i30 and a little bit west of i635, and east of i45 in dallas. again, just off of jim miller road, is my understanding of where this traffic stop originally took place. and again, just when it seems like the guy is slowing down and is ready to give up and maybe that's going to happen here now, it does seem that the cars have

come to a stop. the kdfw chopper, again, is following this for us from the air, and we do appear to have, well, the vehicle come to a stop and there goes the guy taking off on foot! that rarely ends well. maybe he thinks he can outrun the one officer in the black and white patrol car, maybe he's watched enough of these police chases on tv to know that when you get three or four or five cars involved, you're not going to have much luck. jenna: tough to know at this point. with the foilage, it's tough to see what's happening on the ground there. but jon, this might be the time that really the police officers are the most vulnerable, because now they're out in the open, you don't know if this guy has a weapon or anything like that, and you got to think what the law -- of the law enforcement at the time. you see on the top of the screen, that roof, there is someone walking. i don't know if that's a roof on the very tiptop of the screen, we don't have control of this helicopter shot obvious lu and -- shot obviously and as we learn more we will bring that to you.

a police chase in dallas, looks like it's on foot and as eget a better visual, we'll bring it to you and show you more. >> we will see you tomorrow night! jenna: did you see that last night! that was an amazing game! i know some of you were watching because you were on twitter and we were chatting throughout the last couple of innings, and i appreciated that, because it kept me saying -- kept me sane, but what a game between the rangers and the cards. david fries hit a home run, obviously, sending the cards to game seven against the rangers in the world series.

man, just take in. jamie colby has more. jon:dy touch home? i hope he did. jenna: he had to throw out his helmet because he didn't want to get hit on the head. jamie, you have the best story of the day. >> reporter: and i said that earlier. you and i stayed up late and you couldn't tell. it was some game. you can't miss it tonight, 8:05, only on fox, definitely not to be missed, especially after that game. how about these guys, david hewett and reland, they grab the ball, in a scenario they played out in their heads, they decided they were going to get it no matter who hit it, they got outfield bleacher seats, they knew they were perfectly positioned to snatch the ball when that hitting hit -- when the winning hit was made. from marryville, illinois, he watched as they cracked the bat, he jumped the fence, landed near the ball and took it as his own. watch this! >> hits it through the

center! we will see you tomorrow night! >> >> reporter: he wasn't the only one trying to get the ball, jeanne and jon, but he did, and he said you know what he did with it? he put it in his pants! to make sure that nobody else could get their hands on t i'll just leave that part of the story at bat! but he didn't have it for very long, because he was given the choice, do you want to leave the park with the ball, he said he couldn't hold the country hostage, he had to return it, and he earned himself to visit to -- a visit to the clubhouse, surely a night and visit he won't forget, and they have another tradition, jenna, the sledding -- the shredding, the history making souvenir, the winning jersey, guess where it's going? to cooperstown! guess we'll all have to make a visit there soon if we want to remember this big night. jenna: that's pretty -- i was wondering why they whipped the jersey off. i guess it was that exciting >> reporter: they do it, it's the tradition, it's the shredder, it's a big tradition there. and i'm wearing red, but i'm

balanced. jenna: i was going to ask you about that. are you sure? >> i'm a bit of a rangers fan. >> i never take sides! jenna: just got to ask you! we'll be watching tonight, jamie, thank you very much. that's a great anecdote for the game. jon: what a great ending to game six. jenna: wait, you're wearing red, too. there's a conspiracy going on! >> jon: i'm not pull fog either team. just pulled it out of the closet this morning. so what's the weather going to be like in st. louis for the big game, game six as you probably recall was postponed because of weather. janice dean, live in the fox weather center. j.d. >> reporter: yes, and we have some snow to talk about. but let's talk about game seven tonight. i don't think there's going to be any weather problems whatsoever, a really nice day right now in st. louis, the temperatures should northbound the 40s, game time, 8:05, jenna, she'll be having her popcorn and biting her nails i'm sure!

let's talk about the other big story, okay? here's a noreaster headed our way before halloween, where i'm from, this is typical, we all have our costumes that are a size birg and we go out and it's no big deal but for folks in the northeast, this is rare. let's take a look at the snow across upstate new york and into new england. this is going to be a much bigger event. let's take a look at some of the snow total that is we've seen in the past in october. we could actually surpass the snow totals, so this could be an historic event. so in philadelphia, we saw 2.1 inches back in 1979, but look at new york, not even an inch back in 1925, and we're forecasting 1-3 inches. so let's quickly look at the future radar as we go further out in time, that's saturday, rain in washington, d.c., but heading into the overnight, turning over the snow for philly, new york, up towards boston, 1-3 inches, interior sections, 6-12 inches on the

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jon: you always have to wonder why they do this, this car chase in dallas, texas has come to a short and sweet end, it started in the 4200 block of jim miller, we're told, in dal a. where a guy was pulled over, wanted by police, thought to have assaulted a police officer. he took off, instead, and as usual, the police get their man. you saw the ending live here a couple minutes ago, but we understand that the suspect was apprehended after a short chase on foot. authorities have him in

custody. here's a little bit of video of him being hauled away in cuffs. we'll get some more information on this suspect, wanted for assault on a police officer. there he goes, getting marched off to processing and maybe eventually the big house, because on top of the assault charge, he's going to be facing a bunch of other charges for trying to run from police. never a good idea. jenna: never the right move there. the fast & furious investigation continues to heat up and of course, that operation is the fed's botched plan to track guns going into mexico. there were more than 2000 of them and those guns ended up in the hands of the drug cartels and put quite simply we don't know where a lot of those guns are now. more and more republicans want answers from attorney general eric holder. eight members of congress are now calling for his resignation. you can see those numbers on your screen. all this comes after a tense week of questions about the scandal on capitol hill, including this exchange with the secretary of state: >> at what point did the

state department learn of operation fast & furious. >> congressman, i don't know the exact time. we have no record of any requests for coordination, we have no record of any kind of notice or heads up. and you know, my recollection is that i learned about it from the press. jenna: republican congressman trey goudy of south carolina sits on the house judiciary committee, he joins us now live. are you part of the pack of people asking the attorney general to resign? >> no, ma'am. i'm part of the pack of people that's asking the attorney general to answer our questions candidly, completely, and accurately. i didn't hire him. and i don't give career counseling advice. so rather than talk about his employment prospects, i would rather him come to judiciary, correct the false statement he gave chairman

issa, tell us what he knew, when he knew it. it's important to note, fast & furious didn't become a problem because a border patrol agent was killed. it was a problem from its inception. so it's important to us to find out when the department of justice, his department, when did the department of justice first learn of this ill conceived gun interdiction program or investigation, although i'm reluctant to use the word investigation. it was so flawed in its inception. he is going to have to -- president obama hired him, president obama can decide whether or not he's doing the job, and i suspect when he becomes -- when it becomes more of a political liability they'll have that conversation. jenna: you know, the president hired a lot of people. >> i'm not giving career advice. i want to get answers for the american people, who knew what, when. jenna: the president hired a quite a few people that had to testify. we just showed hillary clinton in other testimony, she talked about this, also the secretary of homeland

security, as well as the attorney general, and there seems to be a similarity between all of their testimonies which seems to be a bigger story that i'd like your opinion on, congressman. it seems at this point that they all say gosh, we didn't know about it or i didn't give the waiver, i don't really remember when i actually heard about an investigation, and these are high officials that are saying this. so if you replace one or another t. doesn't change the fact that the system might sob bloated and bureaucratic that everyone is to blame, yet no one is to blame at the same time. what about the system that's actually having this happen, where there's so much finger pointing going on, but yet, no one seems to be the person to blame? >> welcome to washington, where as long as you say i don't know and they can't prove otherwise, you get to hang on to your job. the reason that i always phrase things new orioo knew or should have known is because if you're going to be a cabinet level secretary, then the american people have a right to expect you're going to know what your department is doing.

and trust me, as a prosecutor who lived through the death of a police officer, if janet napolitano was not asking hundreds of questions of eric holder after one of her border patrol agents was killed, if she doesn't have -- then she doesn't have any business being the secretary of homeland security and if eric holder did not get on the phone as soon as a border patrol agent was killed and said i want to know everything there is to know about this investigation, then he probably needs to go into the private practice of the law. but this game of saying i don't know, and being recalcitrant, running out the clock in subcommittee hearings, that's got to stop. that's why people have such a poor view of the institutions of government, and that's fine. politics aside. this has been a -- this is the department of justice. it's not too much to ask that they level with us. jenna: a quick question for you, sir, why the focus on eric holder and not the focus on let's say the resignation of janet napolitano or the secretary of state? why do you think he's the core person that needs to take the blame for this or

answer the questions? >> well, it's clear the department of justice, that's who approved the wire taps that were pat of fast & furious. all of this flows up to the department of justice. now, what secretary napolitano fails to state in her testimony this week, she had an agent on the task force, on the fast & furious task force, but it is eric holder and the department of justice that either approved the application, that memos of way back in 2010, there were memos calling the program fast & furious, talking about gun walking. he knew or should have known much more than any of the other secretaries which is why we're starting with him. but it may go broader than him, but we're going to start with him. jenna: congressman gowdy, thank you for joining u. we're going to continue to follow this investigation and wee be -- we'll be right back with more of "happening back with more of "happening now". how'd you do it? eating right, whole grain.

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>> reporter: i'm harris faulkner at the breaking news news desk at "happening now." we are getting more information on a cruise ship with norwegian cruise lines that docked a few hours ago in boston after the reported deaths of two people. what we are learning is that that cruise ship is the norwegian dawn. on the website the description is that it's new england's favorite cruise ship. they cruise throughout new england and canada. two people have died, a

67-year-old woman. police think there is nothing suspicious about her death. the state police in massachusetts according to the district attorney called the da's office last night before the ship had arrived this morning telling them about the two deaths, and this other one in particular, that of a 23-year-old male. they are not saying whether or not there is any investigation going on criminally in this. what they are saying is because they don't know, like the other death with the woman that it might have been natural causes, they are keeping it as an open investigation. and with regard to that they needed some police response when it pulled into port at the black falcon cruise terminal in the boston area this morning. we will pwhre bring you up to speed as we learn more. i have talked with norwegian officials. their media relations officials are trying to get a prepared statement about these two people and what will happen with the rest of the cruise. can't tell you what part of the cruise they were in. it holds 2,224 people passengers

and another thousand 73 crew members. it's a large ship. we don't know exactly the passenger list or how many people were on board for this excursion. as we learn more we will update you. back to jon and jen a. jon: thank you. right now new questions about the arab spring and what it might mean for our national security. there are fresh concerns that the historic events we are seeing across the middle east and north africa could give rise to islamic fun today meant ta list eupl and extremists who could set their sights on u.s. targets. james rosen is live in washington. >> reporter: it was tunisia who gave birth to the arab spring. in elections in that country and islamist party seems to have captured the governing majority. the man who is the head of the tripoli military council once headed the libyan islamic fighting group, a militia that

our state department calls a terrorist organization. some of libya's new political leaders have eup embraced sharia, a harsh form of islamic law. not all see that as an imminent threat. >> the saudi government has been the most vigorous supplier of sharia law throughout the muslim world for decades. saudi arabia and the united states have had a pretty close relationship on national security issues, even though we are two very different societies. >> reporter: some conservists contrast the obama administration's response to the iranian uprising of 2009 with its speedy recall of hosni mubarak last february and a white house that has badly bungled the arab spring. >> the president of the united states in both cases did the bidding of the islamists who wanted to preserve the regime

and iran and who wanted to remove the regime in egypt. >> reporter: in testimony before the house foreign affairs committee yesterday america's top dip phra math said revolutions are unpredictable phenomena. >> i think a lot of the leaders are saying the right things and some are saying things that do give pause to us, but i will assure you we are going to do all that we can within our power to basically try to influence outcomes. but, you know, the historic winds sweeping the middle east and north africa were not of our making. >> reporter: attention turns to the egyptian elections of november 28th and the expected strong showing by the muslim brotherhood, one of whose off shoots is hamas. jon. jon: james rosen live in washington. thanks. jenna: right now in dallas we showed you the car chase that was happening a few moments

ago. the other big story is happening in dallas as well. a serial rapist who appears to be targeting one of america's most prominent black satisfactory roar a tees. many delta sigma theta alums are chasing how they live, thinking twice about wearing delta clothing or having license plates on their cars. the texas police are on the hunt for a man you can see in the surveillance video. he's raped four women in their 50s and 60 all members of the sorority. criminal in aist pat brown is here. why is this man targeting these women? >> reporter: that is an interesting question. what serial rapists do is find easy targets. women walking home from the store, women on jogging. patti ann: . they watch apartments until they see one who is alone and go in and get her. this guy is doing things you see on television show. he is focusing on women of this

specific sorority. he's got to have some connections or resentment against these women. people are wondering why does he got this issue. jenna: let's talk about the timeline. the most recent rape was this month. the other rapes have been spread out, though, september was one, april, last november. these are not in quick succession. what does that say to you about this criminal? >> reporter: well, rapes aren't really usually in that much succession. there are down times in between, the same is true for serial killers. they get frustrated with their life. like this guy maybe he was dating someone from this sore roar tee and she dumped him. maybe he lost his job and he gets angry. and when he rapes these women he feels strong and powerful and good about himself. there are ups and downs as far as the timelines go. he might strike again tomorrow, he might wait three years.

jenna: it's so bizarre. you think about the women, you want to make sure they are safe. the description of this man is well quite specific in that he is big. he's a really big guy, upwards of 300 pounds, right. 5'7", five to the 9. mid 30s and 40s. the victims are in their 50s and 60s. anything strike you as strange about those ages? >> reporter: well that is fairly unusual. most of the time a serial killers do go for the 20 year olds who are kind of little trophies of our society for guys. it is unusual to pick older women. it's possible that these are just women on a list and they happen to be older, and we're putting too much into it. it's also possible that he has a thing for older women or he is angry at older women. for example he could have worked near there is a chapter of this particular sorority that is in dallas on martin luther king boulevard, on the corner. i looked around there. we've got a pizza place, a t-shirt shop, a number of

different bitsess. he could have worked in one of those businesses and have had contact with the women. he could have worked in the sorority and been angry at the women. maybe his mother was in the sore roar te sorority and he's ticked off at his mother. these women are very war read. they are getting rid of all the things to do with the sorority. he may change. any women out there, be careful if you are living alone, that's who he is targeting. jenna: thank you, pat for that, the smallest trigger could start this crime. call the number on the screen if you have any information on this story. we'll continue to watch it. pat, thank you. jon: police searching for baby lisa in missouri planned to interview her two brothers today. those interviews are now on hold. it's just the latest twist in this investigation. geraldo has been talking to authorities. he joins us next with some new

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jon: right now another dramatic turn of events in the search for baby lisa in missouri. police interviews with her two older brothers abruptly canceled. we are also hearing reports of a serious rift between the two lawyers representing baby lisa irwin's parents. one lauren responded to reports the other fired her from the case. let's bring in geraldo rivera, the ann of geraldo at large. been talking with the police spokesman to get some new information. >> reporter: let me give our viewers a fox news alert. sergeant says tee graves is at the scene of a hostage standoff. there was apparently a shooting in kansas city unrelated, absolutely unrelated to the baby

lisa case, but the shooting victim was rushed to the hospital and now the alleged shooter, the suspect, is refusing to come out. so there is a hostage standoff going on right now in kansas city, that's why my source, john, sergeant stacey graves at the kansas city police department is unavailable to be with us. just prior to that i did have an extensive interview with the sergeant that i'd like to share with the people watching right now. i asked about her being denied, the cops now being denied their request to interview the kids. she said of this 11th hour denial, quote, we're frustrated. we just want to find out what happened to their sister. that's why we want to interview these kids. we don't want to trip them up. the interview would have been done by child forensic specialists, not by police officers, and the kids may have seen or heard something helpful. but what about the criticism, i asked, that the pd is too focused on the family? sergeant graves responds, we are still not getting answers from

the parents, this is very important. we are still not getting answers from the parents, and that's why we are focused on them. but we are not ruling out anything. we have checked out more than 800 of the one thousand tips we've received. i asked, what about the mystery men seen walking around. the sue sightings of a man walking around with a near naked baby in his arms. first of all she said there is no -- thinks the man that was walking around the gas station. there is no report that that man had a child with him. this is important too, this is new. but we are still investigating the reports of the man with the baby. we are absolutely looking into that. what about the apparent dispute between the lawyers on the defense team i asked sergeant stacey graves, the spokeswoman for the kansas city police department? it doesn't help our search for what happened. jon: the new york lawyer who has been on our program supposedly fired cindy short, the local

lawyer there in kansas city. there you see her on the right of the screen. she says she doesn't know anything about it. and by the way she says, he can't fire me, i work for the parents. >> reporter: she is the one that engineered the interview now canceled. you have a very substantive dispute. jon: these boys five and eight are old enough to be able. >> reporter: the mcmartin preschool, remember that 1983, california kids, two, three years old interviewed, they talked about a satanic ritual going on, children being abused, it was the longest trial in california, and it all turned out to be bogus. that is the concern about interviewing kids. jon: geraldo rivera will be back with us next hour. jenna: concern about a raging epidemic. prescription drugs found in medicine cabinets are being sold on streets and the alarming toll it's taking on innocent young victims. that's ahead.

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prescription drugs quickly becoming the street choice of drugs in america. some of the victims are innocent victims. we'll talk with john roberts live from atlanta on this troubling trend. john. >> it's a very, very disturbing trend. we all remember the crack babies of the 1990s. this is a baby in a neonatal intensive care unit going through withdrawal from a powerful prescription narcotic. we don't know the exact drug, but it was after that baby's mother was addicted to. the problem is exploding. we went to all childrens hospital in st. petersburg,

florida there. of the 80 babies in the nicu, 24 of them, 30% had been born addicted to a prescription drug in 200815 babies were admitted for the same thing. so far this year 136, the way they street them is by giving them morphine and slowly weaning them off their addiction. dr. g. mccarthy who is a neonay toll gist at the hospital says if they don't do that withdrawal could be fatal. now apparently we don't have her sound. but she said that what happens is that the babies are irritable all the time, they can get a fever of 105 degrees, they shake uncontrollably, they can't eat and in some cases it can lead to death. jenna: we are having tec technical issues. we were trying to get the picture up of the baby as well. we haven't been able to do it. tell us a little bit about how the problem got so bad and we'll try to get some of the images up

as we chat. >> reporter: the problem got so bad, jenna because florida up until now has not had any kind of law to monitor prescription drugs and therefore we saw an explosion of what are called pill mils, bogus pain clinics where people can go in with a phantom ailment and get a large plea prescription for powerful narcotics. pam bond deis the attorney general for the state of florida. she says what happens is people go in, many of them were women. we were following the police on these ride-alongs. there you have the picture of the baby. women don't realize the dangers of the prescription drugs because they get them from a doctor. the affects on the baby just terrible. women will come in, she'll say i smoked marijuana, choked cocaine. they don't mention prescription drugs. the new law has gone some distance toward attack being the problem, though police say they still need to do more. later on this afternoon at 2:30 a major announcement from

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correspondented henry is live in the briefing room and he's been helping us with this theme. this without congress theme. what is the administration hoping to get out of this latest move? >> reporter: they are certainly trying to jump start the economy without congress. if he basically feel if they are going to sit on the jobs bill the president will move on his own. he's announcing executive actions on refinancing mortgages as well as trying to consolidate student loans, get more money in people's pockets. those were somewhat controversial moves as you know. now what he's trying to do is directing fred ral agency to shorten the amount of time to federal research can be turned into commercial problems so they can focus more on the actual products creating jobs not on federal red tape. you have republicans already saying look that is a drop in the bucket compared to the regulation businesses will have to deal with with the implementation of dodd frank and the president's healthcare act, but this white house believes this is not only lawful but that it is appropriate for the president while song in their

opinion stalls the jobs bill for him to move forward. here is jay carney yesterday explaining that. >> the things he is doing administratively through executive pours are things that he can do. the things that do not require legislative action, so he is exercising that power. he has been exercising his executive authority throughout his presidency. >> reporter: interesting because it was seven weeks ago last night i should say that the president had that major address to a joint session of congress first pushing that new jobs bill. he's been out on the road selling it and still has not made the sale. jenna: the weeks all start to run together when there is a major election. real quick on the president's -- whether he has the power to do this or not. will this actually move the needle, as far as major job creation, some of the things that the president is talking about? >> reporter: we'll hear from jay carney in a moment. i doubt he'll sell this as some major job creator. what they've said throughout is

that there is no magic bullet here if you will, but they want to do every little thing they can to help cut some red tape to try to help businesses create jobs and create an environment that is a little better for them. republicans have been saying throughout the presidency that regulations have been choking businesses, that's why they are not creating jobs. they'll have that debate between now and november 2012. i don't think jay carney will try to sell this as a game changer but they will try to sell it as trying to do every little bit they can while congress in their opinion sits around. jenna: remember times when we get the estimates, a hundred thousand jobs, 20,000 jobs, all those targets. >> reporter: not on something like this. it's not on the sale of a $447 billion jobs bill. this seems like much, much smaller than that. jenna: it will be interesting to watch as they kind of come together and pass through and see what the real effect is. a real quick question about your money, not your money the mountain's money, associated press report that has a little bit of an audit of the donations that the president is getting.

can you tell us what the main points of that are. >> reporter: the bottom line is the associated press in this analysis suggesting in key states some of the small donors that the president might have expected to be there, people who gave them before are not giving just yet. maybe some of the folks are disappointed, maybe they are waiting around to see who is going to be on the other side, who is going to be the republican nominee in the end. i think it's pretty easy for the obama campaign to push back on an analysis like that. number one it doesn't mean they've lost the campaign donors forever. all of us are focusing on the election already. a lot of people are focusing on their jobs, lives and not focusing on politics. they could give the president money next year, for example. number two the president has in his campaign about $70 million in the bank right now. even this he loses a few small donors here and there, he has a lot of problems, unemployment, foreclosures, et cetera, weighing him down. money in the bank is not one of them. jenna: a good reminder that people have real lives, unlike us who like to focus on

politics. >> reporter: we don't really have real lives. we following this all the time. jenna: jay carney is expected any time. we'll let you sake your seat. >> reporter: good to see you. jon: there is a push to look deeper into the terror connections between the 9/11 attacks, and the possible role of anwar al-awlaki, who was killed last month in that drone strike in yemen. on capitol hill some lawmakers want investigators to question suspects held at gitmo to find out what they know about the late american-born cleric. our khaoeuf intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more on that. the 9/11 suspects and questioning them, who wants that. >> reporter: good morning, jon and thank you. a fox news was first to obtain this letter sent by the chairman of the homeland security committee peter king to the head osaying the gitmo detainees should be questioned.

these are pictures of a man who helped the hijackers. and another close associate of the american cleric who is the first on the american capture list. the syrian is still living in the u.s. >> are you religious? >> no. >> why would you go to hamas? >> how did you come to meet him. >> i'm very upset about that, really. so everybody have to do something for them. >> reporter: that syrian national is actually waiting to hear whether he will be deported from the united states. immigration officials moved to pull his status for reasons of national security that remain under seal, jon. jon: why are they asking about anwar al-awlaki now? why does he still matter? he is dead, we killed him a month ago. >> reporter: i think there are are three fundamental reasons. first and foremost in my covering of this area nor about a decade i have never seen

congressional investigators ask specifically for the 9/11 suspects at gitmo to be questioned about the possible role of an american citizen in 9/11. number two, this congressional investigation by congressman peter king and the house homeland security committee has been going on for five months and what i've been told that is neither the justice department nor the f.b.i. have revealed any documents to that congressional committee. and thirdly, what it shows is that really the full story of 9/11 has still not been told and whether there was in fact a support network inside the sue nighted states that facilitated the hijackers which is one of the principle points this committee is looking at, jon. jon: seems like some of those questions could have been asked before now. >> reporter: well you would think. you would think. jon: there is a lot more reporting on this story from catherine and others including details on the letters obtained by the investigation. you can log onto fox news.com and check it out.

jenna: a big day in the life of a presidential hopeful, rick perry about to file his paperwork to get and the ballot for the primary, but he's not the only candidate according to new hampshire voters today one of his biggest rivals, frontrunner and new hampshire favorite mitt romney is also in the area that's where we find our very own molly line. if the last debate is any indication you probably don't want to get in between the two of them at any moment. >> reporter: right, exactly. thankfully there is some space here in the granite space to spread out. they welcome a lot of the candidates. the primary is most likely to be held on january 10th. governor perry, the texas governor here today to talk to his supporters and make it official despite the fact this he's far behind in the polls and he hasn't spent a whole lot of time on the ground here in new hampshire. he's still in the race signing up for the new hampshire primary. his supporters are still out there, still working trying to gather more support for him today. he'll be talking with religious conservatives, social conservatives and a lot of his supporters were at the

headquarters last night assembling lawn signs, hundreds of them that will be put out all across the state in the coming weeks. the poll numbers for mitt romney are very strong. he's the frontrunner here. the latest rasmussen poll shows romney 41% of the vote. cain 17%, ron paul 11%, and perry less than 5%. it's stuff for rick perry here. romney is here as you mentioned. he'll be holding a town hall in manchester. despite the fact that he has the lead he's not taking it lightly something that a professor of politics says that's probably a good idea because there is still a little room in this race. take a listen. >> coming from the very conservative wing of the party, mitt romney has been very solid all year right around 35, maybe even 40% of the vote. that leaves 60% of new hampshire voters who have looked at mitt romney most likely and would prefer someone else.

>> reporter: and the question of course is who that someone else could be. and that 60% of voters that are not voting for mitt romney at this point in time, can they solidify enough of the support needed to give him a run for his money here in the state that is almost kind after hometown state? he has a home here an was the governor from massachusetts, of course. he's got that local connection that would also be tough to beat. jenna. jenna: a lot going on in new hampshire, molly. thank you so much for that round up. we appreciate it. we're of course going to take a closer look at romney and perry and the rivalry between the two and the "wall street journal"'s paul gigot joins us in 20 minutes. jon: take a look at this. jenna, probably something you haven't had a chance to see up until now. do you know what that is? jenna: it looks pretty good. jon: it's the island of manhatten from the torch of the statute of liberty. the lady has gone high-tech. a new torch cam a gift to the city for the 125th birthday of lady liberty. we'll tell you more about it

straight ahead. jenna: there is a key reason why that view is important because you're probably not going to get that view any time soon if you're visiting new york city. we'll tell you why. jon: also, day five in the search for a missing little boy who has autism. robert wood jr. disappeared while on a walk with his family last sunday. we'll tell you more about the search that authorities are still desperately conducting. jenna: plus, the trial of michael jackson's doctor winding down now. what is happening today? adam housley i believe is live at superior court. there you are adam, always good to see you in a live tees. what is coming up? >> reporter: i believe you're right. we have the star witness for the defense who is on the stand right now. we'll tell you what he's saying. as we do that and as we go to break take a look at the demonstrators outside of the courthouse here in los angeles. that story coming up next. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose.

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>> divers are joining the search for a missing autistic boy missing right now in virginia.

robert wood jr. disappeared during a hike with his family on sunday. harris is following the story live from our breaking news news decks. >> reporter: he's nine years old, autistic and unable to speak. officials are concerned that he might not be able to call for help if he's in trouble. i want to start with this. jon, this is from the police in doswell, virginia in the woods there that they've been searching. when asked whether or not this little boy is alive, the police say, we are going to continue this until we find him. we are operating under the assumption that robert needs our help. they give a tip line, and today they are expecting upwards of a thousand people to search for this little boy. they've got about 900 volunteers, and 300 professionals dispatched to help. the search on a second day now in about its second hour at this point. as you said, dive teams are concentrating on an area called the north ana battlefield park, and the river in that area is where they are going out again

to search, because a canine hit was made, which means there is some sort of scent about this little boy near this water way. dive teams and kayakers as you see in this video are back out today. they use nighttime thermal imaging overnight to see if they could locate him. authorities say they have a better chance of finding him perhaps at night when the conditions were better for search dogs. but today they are back out there. again, there is the tip line, (804)365-6140. robert wood jr. is just nine years old. these are the woods of doswell, veneer hanover. they are searching as best they can. we hope to be able to bring good news on this one, jon. jon: let's hope we can. harris faulkner, thanks. jenna: to california where we are watching the final days in the trial of michael jackson's doctor conrad murray. taking the witness stand, dr. paul white. we keep on showing this. let me explain this a little

bit. there is obviously a graph that is being use ned the courtroom. every time we go to the courtroom we are trying to show you this picture, this obviously is not live, we are trying to show you what is happening inside a court. before we went to adam housley out at the los angeles superior court there were some graphs that are being shown in court right now. do you know what is behind that, adam? >> reporter: yeah, dr. paul white is his name who is the person talking about that graph right now. he is the star witness for the defense in this case. you might remember last week we had a guy by the name of dr. steven shafer, the star witness for the prosecution. these two men are really the experts when it comes to propofol and when it comes to this type of thing, and one is for the prosecution, one is testifying for the defense. this is the defense guy. he's been pretty impressive so far. what that chart shows is he says according to his calculations he's taken the prosecution's theory of how dr. murray is accused of giving michael jackson the over dose, he's taken those numbers and put it into this chart and his

calculations show it is not possible for that to happen. take a listen to part of his testimony. >> i thought that there were questions if in fact murray had administered the drugs that he described in his conversations with the police department, and the doses that he described, i would not have expected michael jackson to have died. >> reporter: so because of that chart, because of that testimony the prosecution has asked for the weekend to proceed pair for cross-examination, which means that now begins on -- well potentially could begin on monday if everything goes as planned, which means this jury at the errol years probably won't get this case until the middle of the next week. the problem with that now is the judge is concerned that because this trial has gone on for so long, because there is so much -- so many technical aspects of it and it's become tedious at times that he worries the jury might be lost. according to our people in the courtroom, including our producer lee ross he says the jury continues to be very

intent, they watch all these witnesses very closely, they take notes and they seem to be all on the same page at this hour, as this continues, but this is the guy the defense really hopes can somehow help them with their ability to try and get dr. murray found not guilty. that's what we're hearing from right now. it should be interesting the rest of the day. of course monday cross-examination, jenna. jenna: adam you showed some of the protestors behind you. are they their fans maybe yelling as you're giving the report? or who is behind you? >> reporter: we'll show you a couple of them right now. it actually varies. it's funny, the first couple of days of this trial there were a ton of them out here, maybe a couple hundred. then it dwindled down to two or three. there are a couple here in favor of dr.~conrad murray and a few in favor of michael jackson. in the last couple of days the numbers starting to grow again. they get a little bit more animated. one sings. the doctor murray lady who is a good friend of his, she can be accosted a few times verbally. inside the courtroom you see more of the demonstrators as well. this is what you see down here,

and you can bet that as this court gets closer to a decision you're going to see a lot more people. you're also seeing more of the jackson family become here. joe jackson came back yesterday. janet jackson came back in the cooperate yesterday. we are told that rick and kathy hilton are here to give the jackson family support. you never know what you're going to see in l.a. if you walk down the street that way you'll see the occupy l.a. folks. jenna, if you guys get bored in new york come on out here. jenna: you're in a prime location. who knew the hill tons would show up today. you never know where you're going to find them. you can watch the entire conrad murray manslaughter trial log onto foxnews.com to get a live streaming feed and you never know what you might see. jon: that looks like a pretty strange collection of folks here. a beautiful woman found hanged from a balcony at her boyfriend's mansion. authorities called it a suicide. well there are some stunning new developments in that case. we'll talk about it with geraldo rivera coming up.

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jenna: fox news alert. get to breaking headlines. new developments in mysterious death of a woman in a southern california mansion. we can report you to the second autopsy of rebecca zahau's body is complete. she was found naked in other mansion and ankles bound behind her back. authorities say she killed herself. her family simply doesn't believe that. geraldo rivera is host of "geraldo at large". hopefully audio stays on and

gremlins are out of the system. and this is important. dr. baden, forensic expert went through her first autopsy with us. i asked him have you ever seen a suicide like this. he said no. i never seen a suicide like this and but homicide either and i think it suicide. >> the family believes it was homicide, not suicide. her family believe there was foul play here. your report, the second autopsy has not now been completed. it was at carlo university, find masters catholic university where dr. wecht has his office. they exhumed the body. they flew the body from san diego to pittsburgh. the autopsy was completed 90 minutes ago. dr. wecht is informing the family exactly what he found. we don't know what he found. we do know he communicated to family his findings. there are plenty of things in your fine interview with dr. baden yesterday. he pointed out there are

many, many aspects of this body that do not seem in sync with a suicide. jenna: like what, for example? >> the blood, if a person, who committed suicide and they were hanging, the blood would be presumably sunken all to the lower parts of extreme, you know when the --. jenna: this is something, she fell a long area. >> the blood was not just concentrated in the lower part of extremities of her body, her legs. it was on her back. there were contusions where, not just the contusions when she was cut down but other parts of her head, four different parts. there was enough forsenically, jenna, that the family thought the second autopsy was critically important. obviously, if there is even the hint of foul play, that changes what the authorities in san diego have been put forth and thank goodness they exhumed this body. jenna: in your experience as an investigative reporter, how often are second autopsies, do they break more news? how often is it different than the first results, just

anecdotally in your experience? >> depends on the level of the profile of the case. in the intensely public cases like this one, that two viral in a sense, generally speaking the initial autopsy is pretty darn good. you know, so the kennedy assassination is an example. how many times did the young and gracious 35th president of the united states when his poor body was probed and probed and probed again, they came up with the same conclusion. i won't open up the whole warren commission but it is, in my opinion, unlikely that the second autopsy in this particular case will reveal a different conclusion but it's possible. jenna: what would you be asking for next? as far as this investigation of this story? because remember this is the home of a pharmaceutical executive. this was his girlfriend. his son died, apparently from an accident, falling down the stairs. >> she was in charge of the child and presumably could have felt tremendous guilt. the child ultimately died of

the accidental fall. maybe she felt loaded down with remorse. but on the other hand, if she did indeed preside over the death of this beloved child, that is also a motive for the child's fare, the millionaire to do something awful to this woman and he had the resources. i'm not accusing him but he had the time, the energy, the money to stage an elaborate suicide, you know, pseudosuicide. so that is the reason for the family's suspicion. they have deep-seeded suspicion directed at the man in this case and where dr. wecht's forensic hunting, his trail ends will be interesting to see. jenna: any indication when we will learn about this? >> as soon as i get off the phone, off the set i will call them again, say, dr. wecht, what is going on, what did you find? dr. fill funded much this effort. jenna: does that raise a red flag at all? >> you know, think it tacky or not but in this particular case it is not

like paying a murderer for an interview. this is, if he really working at the behest of the family and really put up the hard money to get the body exhumed and flown to pittsburgh for this very prominent forensic pathologist to do the second autopsy more power to him. jenna: very expensive obviously to do this extra work. >> really. jenna: just ask you about the other story we've been looking into. this serial rapist in dallas targeting members of one prominent brac sorority all of them in their 50s and '60ses. this is spread out since last november. we have fiscal description of this man. there is something unsettling and bizarre about this case. >> i'll say. jenna: just besides the obvious. seems very random and also connection to the sorority. what questions do you have about this. >> first of all i see the movie directed by spike lee. call it, delta girl. that is the theme song. very, very prominent black sorority. the most prominent, 250,000

members. barbara jordan, shirley chisholm, the current surgeon again of the united states, astronauts, it is a who's who of black women in the united states, the most prestige just coming from this one sorority. it is i think vaguely possible it is a random happenstance. you don't know whether his obsession is with the sorority or the demographic you subscribe, 50 to 60-year-old black woman. what is unusual, you look at this i goo. he is a tank of a guy. looks like a football tackle. you know, why is he not targeting, you know the more typical victims? the jogger found in the park alone or the young woman, you know, carelessly talking on her iphone. jenna: someone, quote, unquote easy. >> why going after women, deeply in middle age who are all related to sorority, whether or not the sorority pissed him later in life

we'll find out. jenna: that is something we don't know until they get the guy in custody. geraldo, thank you very much. check out "geraldo at large", sunday, 10:00 p.m. eastern time here on the fox news channel. jon? jon: a fox news alert. authorities in the former yugoslavia are reporting that a gunman jumped out of a car in front of the u.s. embassy in sarajevo opened fire apparently with automatic weapons. listen for a moment. a number about of shots fired. this was a gunman described as being a conservative muslim in appearance with long beard and traditional dress. jumped out of a car. there were two other people in the car. so apparently there were conspirators in this case. a police officer in bosnia was wounded. it goes against the backdrop of this, the palestinian foreign minister and israeli foreign minister are in bosnia right now for talks with the bosnian government. that may be behind this

shooting attack in front of the u.s. embassy in sara avery. sweden has one of the most generous immigration and welfare and asylum policies. some say it brings much-needed growth in the country. some say the system has backfired. amy kellogg with that story. >> reporter: jon, a very hot debate. certain neighborhoods don't look very much like sweden anymore. some say that is more if you define sweden by ikea and meatballs. there are swedes who actually embrace this changing face of their once very homogenous country. but others say the massive influx of immigrants particularly from the muslim world, some who have very conservative at times extreme political views, threaten the swedish way of life. however the mayor of malmo says the country needs fresh blood to sustain itself. >> sweden need as lot of migrants but otherwise we can't keep up the welfare

system. we as most part of europe have too few people. within the coming 20 years we will have a lack of labor force. so we need young people coming to sweden. >> what kind of immigrants do we take in? people from somalia have done moving for than heard sheep all their life and we expect them to be benefit of to our society? that is ridiculous. >> reporter: sweden has one of the most generous and welfare and asylum policies in the world. it has come to point where some question the open door policy simply where there is not enough to go around. tensions led to riots in the predominantly muslim neighborhood in malmo. residents feel discriminated against. they have lashed out and anti-immigration extremists torched main mosque in malmo and carried out other attacks. one far right legislator, jon, thinks some of money earmarked for immigrants

should be redirected to the third world to improve conditions there to keep fewer people coming from that part of the world into the sweden. some say there should be actually a bit of a probationary period for people who are about to get citizenship. in other words they can be booted out if they commit a crime before they get their passport. and then there are others who say that sweden needs to still do more in order to embrace these immigrants. people who are coming particularly from war zones and looking for a more comfortable way to raise their families. so it is a debate, jon and it clearly touches many other parts of the world. back to you. jon: some of the same arguments underway in this country right now. amy kellogg. thank you. jenna: jon, we'll have a little take two with breaking news out of south carolina. harris, we had initial reports of a gunman on the loose? >> reporter: yeah, this is near 10 schools which they have placed on lockdown. this is in greenville, south carolina. a gunman firing at police officers. they described it as a gunbattle at one point.

we're just getting first video in which we can show you now in greenville where this guy apparently run into the woods and has not been seen since. they are looking for him. they are checking on a vehicle with a suspicious license tag to see if that belongs to him as well. on the list, four public schools, three private schools, two colleges and a special education center placed on lockdown. just in the last couple of minutes, jenna, they have put them on a partial lockdown, which means they're allowing to people to go in and out of the buildings after about two hours of them being on a heavy lockdown with no no. whatsoever. the shooting happened in a fairly densely populated area. that's why they had it be so careful with these schools. you never know where the suspect might go, which campus he might go on. this very concentrated area south of interstate 85. i will stay on this they're just looking for this guy. they don't know exactly what he is armed with either. they just know he opened fire on them. the scene, greenville,

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jon: mitt romney and rick perry both making the campaign trail very interesting in new hampshire today. perry filing papers to run in that state's primary. meanwhile romney's campaign has this to say about perry's stand on immigration. quote, governor perry should explain to the people of new hampshire why he thinks their opposition to his liberal immigration policies means they don't have a heart. paul gigot is editorial page editor of "the wall street journal." he keeps an eye on, well just about everything

including all things political. about the worst ininsult you can throw at a republican is to call him a liberal. >> a liberal. that is what romney is trying to do. that quote was taken from one of the earlier debates. romney has been going after perry on immigration and vice versa. perry has been fighting back. pretty clear these two are not a mutual admiration society. jon: perry is not expected to to do particularly well in new hampshire. not his natural constituency and it's a long way from his neck of the woods. >> and he has got to do well in iowa. he has been fading in the polls both in the states iowa and new hampshire and nationally. he needs to do well in that first state of iowa. and he has got a lot of money. he raised almost as much as mitt romney, maybe a little bit more in the recent quarter. he has got a lot to spend. he is going up on the air already this week with an ad on jobs and energy in iowa. i would bet you that a good portion of that money before it is over will be spent going after mitt romney, a lot like you just heard the

other way around today. jon: there is a lot of conventional wisdom that will be turned on its head after these first few primaries. the numbers are going topsy-turvy, aren't they? >> this is very volatile election year so it is a volatile race. you've seen people come up like shooting stars. first is was michele bachmann. they go back to earth. rick perry, shoot up, then down. now it is herman cain's moment in the sun and he is getting new scrutiny. we're going to decide, we'll find out whether he is actually a long distance runner or not. jon: let as talk about that. he came, sort of out of nowhere. for a long time he was an asterisk in the polls and really in people's perceptions of this race. and now all of a sudden, in many polls he is considered the frontrunner. >> he is the least political of these politicians if i can say that. he sounds less like a politician shn than all the others. he has become a way repository for frustration that is a lot of voters have

with conventional politics. plus he sound like a leader. he has got, he is only one, he has put on the most ambitious tax reform of any of the candidates so far. there is lot of reasons you could criticize it on the details but at least it's a big idea. it is a big reform the kind of lot of people in republican electorate are looking for. jon: perhaps appeals to tea party aficiondados who are looking for sort of nonpoliticians to go to washington. >> i think that's right. what you're seeing a with herman cain the question is he a long distance runner? his campaign has been basically nonexistent on the ground. he has been on a book tour. he is using the national airwaves, this network and others, free media to get his message out that is terrific. in the end somebody has to get the voters to the caucuses on january 3rd, which as i recall is a pretty cold evening. and maybe have a bowl game on or two at the same time. so you have to get those people are devoted. make sure they get on buses and cars to get there. he doesn't have that

organization now. jon: will be interesting to watch. paul gigot from "the wall street journal" thank you. tune in tomorrow. the paul will host the "journal editorial report" 2:00 p.m. eastern time on fox. get his take on everything going on in washington. jenna: attorney general eric holder feeling more pressure over the sale of guns that end up in the hands of drug cartels. now there is a growing chorus in congress calling for his resignation.

jon: major development in the solyndra investigation. energy secretary steven chu will testify about the half billion dollar loan to that now bankrupt solar company. let's get into it with jim pinkerton. he worked in the white house under president reagan. judy miller is a pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter. kirsten powers is columnist

for "the daily beast". they are fox news contributors and will join me on "news watch" tomorrow. we'll talk about what we'll be talking about tomorrow. jim, solyndra doesn't seem to be getting any better for the administration although perhaps the energy secretary will clear up some of the misconceptions about this scandal? >> it is possible. this is one scandal i think the mainstream media have been covering pretty energyicly. pretty easy to grass in terms of the basic intention that is the taxpayers are out $500 billion. i must say the larger context is even more disturbing and that is that secretary chu will have to confront. and that is that the whole $38 billion of this loan program, entire 38 billion, not just 500 million of solyndra seems to be jeopardized if energy prices where they are now. the whole plot was to count on energy prices being roughly double what they are today. to make any of these solar and alternative energy programs effective.

jon: $38 billion, judy. that is the number that will get your attention. >> that is lot of money. on the other hand as "washington post" pointed out in particularly balance and interesting piece on the trials and travails of steven chu it is 1/10 of the $358 billion was ard -- $38 billion was awarded for these loan guarantee programs awarded that year. the problem as "the washington post" pointed out, if you have a scientist you have a great energy secretary. if you want somebody who knew something about lending of money to companies perhaps you want a venture capitalist as energy second tear. jon: kirsten, do you agree the media has done a good job covering this scandal? >> i think they have done a okay job. in terms of what judy was talking about though, there were a lot of investors that knew a lot about investing and business who did invest in this company, including one associated with the walton family.

that the loan, the reason that they went out of business essentially because china has been subsidizing their, people who are creating solar panels. so solyndra's entire business plan essentially was off because they were assuming solar panels would be selling at a certain price. i don't know that it is realistic to expect them to have seen that this was going to go out of business. and as judy pointed out it was tiny, tiny percentage of the overall program. jon: let's look at a change in tack of the administration. the president is frustrated by congress. not getting through some of the programs that he thinks are important that he wants them by executiveh. directive. take a listen to the president's thoughts. >> i also said that i intend to do everything in my power to act on behalf of the american people with or without congress. so we're not going to wait for congress.

i've told my administration to keep looking every single day for actions we can take without congress. we can't wait for congress to do its job. so where they won't act, i will. [cheers and applause] jon: judy, every president has been frustrated by congress but i mean congress is there for a reason. it's in the constitution. >> congress is there and the white house legal counsel looked at this and claims this is legal. i think the political questions with the media are concentrating on, jon, why now? he could have done this much earlier or could have actually tried to pass some of these measures when he had a majority in the congress when this wonderful first year. so you can not, can not forget about the political context. he is now in campaigner-in chief mode. jon: right, kirsten, worth remembering it isn't just republicans in congress who frustrated him. he lost democratic votes on

the most recent jobs stimulus bill. >> yeah. look i think in terms of these executive orders, there is no reason to believe that any of them aren't within the law. and, i think that the political aspect is that, democrats have been very critical or very critical of the bush administration for expanding executive power and for, you know, for bush using too many executive orders and circumventing congress. and now obama's turning around and doing it. that is sort of the issue i think the media should be focusing on. jon: jim, is it the fact that the president is pointing at the one institution in washington that has even lower ratings than he does, even lower approval ratings than he does? >> i think it is also the fact that the media, the mainstream media much don't like the republicans and therefore if obama is seen as steamrollering them they sort of approve of that. for every reporter who worries about centralization of power and always did when it was president nixon or either president bush or president reagan, there is reporter now who seems to

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