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up? coming up tonight on "justice." hello and welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine pirro. it is more dramatic than a hollywood movie but this is for real. 30 years after her death, we still don't know what really happened to natalie wood. ♪ i feel pretty, oh so pretty ♪ >> judge jeanine: she was hollywood royalty. a child actress who blossom inside a three-time nominee. best known as marina in "west side story." but natalie wood's golden life came to a tragic end in 1981. november 29th. wood has dinner on california's catalina island with her husband robert wagner and friend christopher. they drink heavily. eventually taking the party on to wagner's yacht splendor continuing to imbibe over the

juice pacific waters. wagner says at some point that night he and watkin get into a big fight. later he goes to the stateroom to check on natalie and discovers she is missing along with the dinghy that was attached to the boat. wagner notifies authorities and a search is launched. shortly before dawn, wood's bruised body is found floating in a shallow lagoon off catalina island. the cause of death, accidental drowning. the case is closed but for 30 years questions have remained. now, the los angeles sheriff's department is reopening the investigation. partly because the captain on the boat that night says he believes robert wagner had something to do with natalie woods' death. doug bombard found natalie's body in the waters off catalina island. he joins us now on the phone. doug, good evening. >> hello, judge, this is doug.

>> judge jeanine: it is good to talk to you, doug. i appreciate your being with us tonight. tell us, doug, how is it that you found natalie's body? >> well, they woke me up just before dawn on that morning and kind of clued me in to what had been going on all night. we had had boats out searching and everything else. but i pretty quickly figured that we knew by that time that we weren't looking for a live person swimming around or something like that. >> judge jeanine: how did you know that, doug, when you say they woke you up? who woke you up? >> well, that area i operated at the time and it was people that worked for me, my harbor department woke me up and clued me in on what had been going on all night. they had jeeps out checking beachesnd they had several of

our harbor patrol boats and shore boats out looking and at 3:00 in the morning they found the inflatable zodiac in blue cavern inside blue caverns. so i knew that much and so from there on it was a matter of trying to figure out what happened and i am pretty good on the currents around the island and that is what led me out. i checked the kelp as i went out to the point. >> and you found her just before dawn i understand. what was the condition of her body? >> it was actually about an hour after dawn. >> judge jeanine: it was after dawn, okay. >> yes, you know, she looked beautiful actually.

she was hanging under her down jacket. if she wouldn't have had that down jacket on we wouldn't have found her at all. >> judge jeanine: basically floating within the jacket i understand. >> she wasn't floating she would have gone down like a rock because she didn't have any body fat to speak of and she was hanging underneath that down jacket. she had a long nighty on and actually she was, you know, i would have to say quite beautiful. >> let me ask you this. i understand that you told robert wagner that you were the one who found natalie's body. what was his reaction when you told him you found her body? >> well, you have to realize this was all happening in front of him. he saw me go out. i think i waved at him. the three of them were standing in the as cot of the splendor

at the time. i took a harassmen harbor patrt with you tried to figure out where she would be if she fell in. >> judge jeanine: once you found her, doug, i guess the question is his reaction when was told that this was natalie. you told him that? >> yes, i told him but he would have to be pretty dumb not to know because about three quarters of a mile right out in front of him is where i found the body and then i transferred the body just a few hundred yards away into the baywatch boat. they wanted to bring the body in to the u.s. sea where the sheriff was and then i went in and told him. so, you know, he would have seen all that. >> judge jeanine: did he say anything to you? >> no, actually, i was looking him right in the eye when i

told him that, that i had recovered the body. and basically his eyes were real bloodshot as you could probably imagine and he just looked down. didn't say anything at it. >> judge jeanine: thank you very much for being with us this evening. i know i took you away from your game. this is what dennis the ship's captain had to say about that night. >> far away from even thinking about even propping over a 30 year anniversary, i have known this information for many, many years and my book has been out for two years. i'm not in it for any kind of profit. i'm in it for the justice of the whole situation. we didn't take any steps to see if we could locate her. we all had our story to tell the homicide detectives at the time. and that is the story i told. >> judge jeanine: all right. natalie's sister lana wood

spoke to tmz. >> he said that everybody was quite drunk, that a fight did break out an argument i should say and that national the water and he and r.j. did was e nothing to pull her out. this is what he said to me, leave her there, teach her a lesson. >> judge jeanine: lana wood is joining us now on the phone. are you there? >> yes, i am. >> judge jeanine: thank you so much for being with us this evening. that is a pretty shocking statement that we just heard. leave her there, teach her a lesson. when davern told you this, what was your reaction? >> i was horrified. i was is devastated. all of the conversations that i had had with dennis were very upsetting to me and very

difficult for me to think about. i would prefer as most of us would that people go quietly and peacefully and easily and without pain and anguish and to hear any of that, i tell you reading h his book my family is getting furious with me because i'm constantly crying. they take the book away from me, set it down. took me two weeks to get through it because i found it so incredibly upsetting. >> judge jeanine: and lana, when told you that there was loud thumping noises coming from the stateroom and they were fighting did you you ever go to robert wagner and say what happened to my sister, how did she die? >> by the time i found out any of that robert wagner was no longer speaking to me. >> judge jeanine: why would he stop speaking with you, lana? >> i don't know. various people have had various opinions as to why he would. i just know that after the funeral there was almost no

contact and i actually recall it was r.j.'s birthday shortly thereafter and i called the house and said you know, what are we doing for his birthday and katie answered his daughter and acted very puzzled and said well, you know, it is not -- it is just r.j.'s friends, it is mark crowley and she started listing people and i said katie, those are all my friends, too, and i was not invited. it was the bottom line. i don't know. i don't know. i know that, you know, he just does not want to deal with me at all which, you know, for whatever reason. >> judge jeanine: you were not accusatory for him to break off ties. >> i'm sorry. i'm in the middle of a crowd. can you state that again. >> you did not accuse him of anything for him to break off ties? >> i never accused him of anything. thone time, you know, shortly

after natalie's passing i had said to him what happened. and he, you know, didn't want to talk about it and that was it. i never -- i never asked him again. and i, you know, i'm sure the fault lay with me but it was easier for me to bury my head and -- than to think of anything like all the things that i heard. >> judge jeanine: lana, did you have any kind of relationship with your sister's daughters after her death? did r.j. allow you to see them and come to the house? >> no. natasha came to see me several times when my mom and her grandmother were still alive and very ill, she had alzheimer's and she was having heart trouble and various things and natasha came several times then. and then when my mom was hospitalized one time i called natasha to tell her and she and courtney came to the hospital for a brief visit and i was

grateful for that. but no one attended my mom's funeral and i have not heard from anybody again. >> judge jeanine: lana, something happened to your sister and obviously we are now trying to figure out what that was. what would you like to see happen here? >> oh, god, i -- you know, i wish there were an easy answer. i wish i could say wow, would i like that -- you know what i would like to happen? i would like the actual facts, the truthful facts to come out no matter how difficult they are because quite honestly, i think the pain that has been caused is so intensive that there isn't much more that you can do to any one. you know, i'm sorry if, you know, this hurts the children but it is a fact of our lives, all of our lives. it colored our lives horrendously. and i would just like the truth to come out. >> judge jeanine: one question quickly, lana. you say that your sister was

not a lot of things that r.j. said about her in his book. do you believe that r.j. was disrespectful to your sister's memory in his book? >> yes, i do. i did not read the whole thing. i wouldn't read the whole thing. i would not read the gavin lambert book. i don't want to put myself through that. i don't want to feel the anger. i don't want -- you know, it is not me. it is not who i am but people talk to me -- >> judge jeanine: do you believe dennis, lan lana, the captain? >> i do. for him to have told me the things did he put him in a horrible position and makes him look like a weak ling, makes him look like a coward and a lot of other things as well. why would someone purposely want to do that. >> judge jeanine: we have to wrap here. i want to thank you so much and hopefully we will be able to talk to you person soon. natalie's body was found with multiple bruises.

multiple. does that sound like accidental drowning to you? dr. michael baden weighs in with us. congratulations.

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>> judge jeanine: we are back with mark fuhrman, retired lapd detective and dylon howard eck executive id ditor of radar online and star magazine. we have now is a new investigation by the l.a. sheriff's department. they are are ready to roll. you were with lapd. what is going on here? >> well, first, judge, you have got to -- you got to reinvestigate the case obviously. the new facts or new statements that came forward. they have assigned two homicide detectives and they are going to look at this case as it just happened as best as they can. and if there is enough evidence to say it wasn't an accident they will reclassify the case as a homicide and then proceed as you would in any cold case which now it becomes a cold

homicide case. >> judge jeanine: mark, i have to tell you when i was d.a. we looked at cold cases and solved a lot of them with very little work for some of these cases. but when the l.a. sheriff's department says based upon credible substantial information that tells me that there is something that really has them interested here. do you think it is this dennis davern, the captain? >> well, i'm not sure that is the only evidence. there is supporting evidence which by a nearby ship that was i think a hundred feet off the bow for the stern of splendor. but they might have already given the captain a polygraph and already given -- >> judge jeanine: i understand that they actually did give him a certified polygraph. dylon howard, i understand that you found a witness who was never interviewed by the

police. can you tell us who that person is? >> mark fuhrman reports about the few witness. is marilyn wayne. she was 90 feet away from the splendor sunday a reporting and has signed a sworn affidavit that she heard screams from the splendor that night at the same time that natalie wood went missing. i spoke to her this afternoon. i asked the question of h her why she never was interviewed by police and she said that she was never questioned. they were not interested in her. and i have also ob be taped a 70-page document in which marilyn also provided an affidavit presented to l.a. county sheriff's and in that document she says she wasn't taken seriously. she is now prepared as she told me this afternoon to answer homicide detectives' questions. >> judge jeanine: and what is interesting about that document which i have in front of me is that they say that robert

wagner's stories and accounts have differed over the years and what is interesting, mark, they come out, lapd and say he is not a suspect. they haven't even started their investigation or they haven't determined it is a homicide. how could they say that? >> will, they are not saying that because they don't really want him to lawyer up or prepare any more than he has for the last 30 years. so, you know, what is the need. certainly the media doesn't need to know what they are doing in their investigation. what is really interesting, judge, about this case is all these people that are so outraged, all the multiple layers of people that have something to add to this from the captain to being a captain of a boat and robert wagner says you are not going to search for her or turn on the light. okay then i'm not going to search for her to all these people that are so outraged 30 years later, what have they been doing for are 30 years? >> judge jeanine: mark, you're right. here is the problem. it happens all the time and if it takes 30 years they will

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>> judge jeanine: investigators find enough loose threads to warrant the reopening of the natalie wood case. forensic pathologist and my baden is. michael wade season with us this evening. let me start. big fight on the deck. robert wagner admits he broke a wine botanists unti bottle in . natalie is missing. the coroner says it is an accidental drowning and everybody goes home.

what doesn't make sense in the autopsy report? >> 34-page autopsy report by the chief medical examiner and is still around. i'm sure the sheriff is discussing this with him. he is still in los angeles. and i had spoken to him about this year guys when this happened. i think there was a very thorough autopsy. i think he looked very carefully at anything at it that he was told that indicated homicide. the problem with the autopsy is if it is accident or homicide the autopsy findings are usually the same. drowning. she drown. she had froth coming out of her mouth and she had a lot of water in her lungs. she was alive when she goes in the water, that we can say. we can't say from an autopsy alone whether she was pushed in or whether she slipped in accidentally. >> judge jeanine: let's peel back the layers of the onion. a woman who has water in her lungs. we know she drown. i have the autopsy report in

front of me. says no other trauma. small bruises. no other trauma noted. foul play is not suspected at this time. this is the day he does the autopsy. doctor, i prosecuted domestic violence cases for 30 years. 25 bruises on this woman's body and they say no foul play suspected? >> yeah, well, i think the reason that is interpretd that way by the medical examiner is because when is body floats in water and she had been there many hours in the water it bumps into things, rocks, boats, and you get post mortem bruises on the body. she does have significant bruising on both wrists that suggests that somebody held her very tightly on the wrists. before she went into the water. >> let's assume as some people theorized that she is bumping into the ladder and the ladder is responsible for are scratches. what is she doing a spin in the water because she has scratches on the front and back of her

legs. that doesn't make sense. if she has bruises on her wrists is somebody holding her in the water. >> we can tell at some point the wrists may have been held but she goes in the water initially when you go in the water your head is above water and the front of the body can get injured. after a person dies the body turns over in the water because of -- floats face down. >> judge jeanine: let's assume it does that. wire thwhy are the bruises circumstance ular? >> particular bruises on the knee and the ankle that are suspicious. the rest are are kind of scratches, super ficial. she may have been in a physical encounter in addition to the verbal encounter going on at the time. the stomach contents, they had dinner. they he go back to the boat around 10:30 and she still has

a lot of full stomach of partially digested. so she would have been alive for about two to four hours after the last meal. >> judge jeanine: you can tell from the stomach contents. another one, doctor. there was no rigger mortior mon they pulled her body out. she could have been saved because rigor mortis hadn't set in. >> takes about ten hours for rigor mortis to set in. it hadn't started when she was found at 7:00 in the the morning and then it developed later on. >> judge jeanine: all serious questions, dr. baden. i want to thank you so much for being with us this evening. and we'll have you back on this one. outrage in texas. an illegal immigrant in jail accused of rape is order released, leaving him free to commit the most heinous of

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parliamentary elections set for nine days from now. i'm harris faulkner. now, back to the judge. >> judge jeanine: what was accused rapist going out on the streets? arrested on a charge of forcible rape, flagged as an illegal immigrant. yet for some unknown unfathomable reason the rape charge is dismissed, the deportation process stopped. so santana a free man, free to commit murder. a reporter with the dallas morning news and michael wylde immigration attorney as well as mark fuhrman joins us. all right, you are reporter you were the first one pretty much to report the case. tell us about this. >> it was actually a colleague of mine first reported it. we wrote two paragraphs at the beginning. there is a lot of murders in dallas. sounded like two men got into an argument and it escalated and one shot the other. the dead man's name was jesse

benevidas. i got an e-mail from a brother of jesse asking to look more into the history of the man who was arrested for the murder. his name was santana. >> judge jeanine: and what did you find out about him? >> a really interesting history. santana two and a half months ago was arrested for allegedly raping his wife. they had bee been together abo3 years blue is but there is a f domestic violence. >> judge jeanine: i understand he beat her severely and put her in the hospital. a history of violence. >> that is what she told authorities. >> judge jeanine: she was in the hospital for an assault. >> i he was arrested and put in jail that day. now, the rape charge went away and we're not sure why. police failed to go forward with it. talking to the family what i understand happened is the wife may have retracted her statement. she was apparently according to them very dependent on him. regardless, without the rape charge he was identified in

jail as being an illegal immigrant. he had an illegal immigration detainer on him. >> judge jeanine: he was supposed to be deported. somebody lifted that detainer. >> ice lifted it. immigrations and customs enforcement. the federal immigration authorities. when we contacted them and asked why they lifted the detainer and he was let out on the street and apparently allegedly murdered a man six weeks later they said another law enforcement agency had requested that the detainer be canceled and that agency took responsibility for his release. of course, the first thing i did was call up ice and asked who is the agency and they would not say. >> judge jeanine: their answer was it as sensitive law enforcement issue so we can't tell you who the other agency is. michael tell me why this guy who was flagged for deportation. the charges are mysteriously dropped of rape and has a history of violence here according to people who know

him well. why shouldn't this guy be deported? >> he probably should have been deported, judge, but was actually acting as an informant. we know the state and federal authorities use these assets and turn them forward. they undermined the threat against the saudi ambassador because they used an informant recently. somebody died because of this but the federal governmenting thought it was worse if they allowed this guy to go than using him and turning him to get somebody even worse. the question is, judge, what kind of protocol do they have in place? >> judge jeanine: we will never know because the federal government looks at everybody and says it is sensitive, we are not going to tell you. mark fuhrman, tell me, what is it about cases like this where the federal government can come in on a man who not only has a history of violence but apparently held a gun to his own head in an attempt to kill himself and say we going to let you walk and not going deport you. are we entitled to know as

michael says what this guy is giving us to cut him loose like this? >> i don't think we really have the right to know. i believe that the first charge would have kept him in jail and ultimately probably got him deported or put in prison. i believe the victim probably declined to cooperate with the prosecution which opened up the opportunity for them to have their informant released to continue the work that they had. now, judge, i want everybody to know that in narcotics cases there is only two it ways you get big cases. undercover or informants. informants are part of the problem but they are scum bags and if you don't use scumbags you are not going to make your case and in a lot of other areas the same is probably true. this probably has been played out in every major city in the country. >> judge jeanine: no question. when i was d.a. i had confidential informants but there is a balancing test where you weigh is man capable of extreme violence and taking guns and then just saying we

are going cut him loose. i mean this guy should have been deported, michael. >> no doubt he should have been deported but they thought that he was less of a risk to the public. >> then they weren't thinking becauseare stupid bus a the history of violence doesn't stop. >> we can't draw the wrong con lukes. >> judge jeanine: he killed someone. >> the federal government protocols in place and whether or not they are meeting the balancing test that you you so eloquently stated between putting out people and putting out information. when you turn somebody and take down a leader in a mexican cartel because of somebody that did something wrong what kind of protocol do they he have in the field. >> judge jeanine: we don't know what this guy was giving any one to let him loose and kill someone. mark you wanted to say something. i will close with you, mark fuhrman. >> when you see he there is no way that the federal government would know that he would resort to violence because he was actually free because he was working for them so they he

didn't have any intent to actually put a violent person ou on the street. >> judge jeanine: mark, with all due respect they may not have intended it but when you have a history of violence you don't just decide you get redemption and clean yourself up. you put a woman in the hospital and beat her that is serious stuff. >> they have to go through a writeing that they give. >> but they don't tell anybody about it. they hide behind it. mark, finish, mark. go ahead. >> judge, which person that is a confidential informant in the violent world of drugs or homicide or cartels that isn't a violent person. every person that is a confidential informant has a tendency and lives in the violence we are talking about. you can't use that litmus test to actually solve this. >> that would be terrific except as far as i'm concerned

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shower the night that mike happened upon you and the young boy. >> we are showering and horsing around and he actually turned all the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor and we were as i recall possibly like snapping a towel, horse play. >> judge jeanine: and now, of course, the penn state tragedy. more victims stepped forward as former coach joe paterno's son reveals his father has a "treatable form of lung cancer." attention focuses on who knew what and when they knew it. david epistein has been covering the story and dr. john sharp is a psychiatrist with harvard university. david, you done an in depth investigation of the scandal at penn state. tell us what you found out. >> one of the most surprising thing is that there were rumors about jerry sandusky's conduct

relating to young boys as soon as he retired in 1989 and these were rumors floating around not just within the penn state football program but local business owners. >> judge jeanine: who all suspected he was a pedophile. >> we heard the term a lot boundary issues. people were saying boundary issues and conduct relating to young boys. i think someone like joe paterno who is kind of a famous micromanager may not have been hearing the rumors that the barber shop across the street was hearing. >> judge jeanine: in terms of the '98 investigation is there anything to indicate that pa ferrarpaterno knew or people ae university were advised what was going on? >> here you are talking about the most powerful person in the area and there is campus police investigating his top lieutenant, probably the most prominent coach in college sports. a report sitting on the local

d.a.'s desk and joe paterno saying he didn't know about it. >> judge jeanine: and more victims coming forward? >> alleged victims but there were over a dozen more who had contacted lawyers in the area last i checked. >> all right. now, doctor sharp, i want you to listen to this sound that we have on tape and if maybe we can pull the sound out. >> are you a pedophile? >> no. >> are you sexually attracted to young boys to underaged boys? >> am i sexually attracted to underaged boys? >> yes. >> sexually attracted, no, i enjoy young people. i love to be around them. i -- but no, i'm not sexually attracted to young boys. >> judge jeanine: wow, dr. sharp, first of all that is the interview from rock center. when you hear that, you read t reads one way but when you hear t is like oh, i don't am i really sexually attracted.

what do you make of that? >> makes my skin crawl. thisth is as close to an admission of guilt as i think you could possibly hear. he is struggling to come to terms with what he did and i believe he told us things that are actually truthful that it didn't start off sexually and didn't wind up a sexual act. someone who does commit a crime as he is alleged to have committed this is a sadistic act and say dough mas masochisc act. he is trying to make sense of that without spelling it all out. >> judge jeanine: he says i have done those things, horsed around, touched their legs. as a prosecutor i look at that and say great, he is admitting he was there and at mitting he was with the boy and admitting he was touched and uses the language of the statute but no sexual intent.

this this interview not just this one but with his lawyer they say basically they are going to investigate the victims. what do you think the victims are thinking when they hear this interview and the subliminal threats we are coming after you? >> going after the victims is a classic thing a perpetrator would do, not taking responsibility. and the victims don't want to maybe come forward in the first place because exactly of this. they are afraid of revictimmization. people can get depressed and have their lives become dysfunctional. they can become challenged. if he doesn't get convicted and they believe he should have they can become defeated. >> judge jeanine: dr. sharp thank you for your insight. and david, thank you for being with us this evening. a hail of bull lets tar bullete residence of the white house. who could have got than close? [ adrianna ] when i grill lobster, i make sure

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>> judge jeanine: who is oscar ortega hernandez and how was he able to get so close to the white house and hit it with a gun nine times? friday, november 11. 21-year-old oscar ramiro ortega hernandez drives to washington, d.c. a long way from his home in idaho. in his honda accord, a loaded romanian semi automatic assault rifle with a scope and several boxes of ammo. he is headed westbound on constitution avenue, about 750-yards from the white house he stops the car. a witness in a passing vehicle hears 8 pops and sees ortega

hernandez firing from the passenger side window toward the white house and then watches as the shooter speeds away. investigators find several bull let impact points on the mansion above the second floor. the area of the white house that is the residence of the first family. police rush to the scene. down the road, they find the shooter's abandoned car crashed on to a lawn. using the car's registration, they i.d. the owner and the hunt is on. >> we are asking for the public to help find this person. they sweep the city, be even searching the occupy d.c. encampment. they just asked me if i had seen him and i said no, sir. >> judge jeanine: multiple witnesses who knew him surfaced saying ortega hernandez hated president obama and want to the kill him. >> he wanted to have an infomeccial about the ended of world and what is going on to inform people. >> idaho resident who spoke to

are taiga hernandez in july says the alleged gunman told him "the president is going to make an announcement that they are going to put gps chips in all the children which is exactly according to ortega hernandez the kind of thing the antichrist would do. then, thursday a break. an employee of a hampton inn in pennsylvania recognizes or are taiga hernandez and calls police. they swarm on the hoe he tell and capture him. >> mr. ortega hernandez is currently in the custody of the united states secret service. >> judge jeanine: was this the random act of a madman or part of a more sinister plot? a former secret service agent who was on a presidential detail in washington, d.c. all right, dan, thanks for being with us this evening. this guy is obviously a good shot. he hits the white house nine rounds across what is equivalent to more than 8 football fields hits the window

in the residence and breaks it and but for the bullet proof glass behind it, it would have gone through. >> we are assuming he was aiming for are that specific window right there. we don't know that yet. not a bad shot from 800-yards. you are not inaccurate by sayinging that. >> most of the shots were around the second floor which is the residence as you well know. how is a gunman who is witnessed by two people shooting out of his car, able to get away and be so close to the white house? i mean they knew who he was. they found his car, his license. they had witnesses that saw him. why so long? >> well, constitution avenue is enclosed. the president can't live in a sealed bubble all the time, that's open. it doesn't surprise me from a security perspective he shot at the white house. you can't prevent every random act of violence. what does surprise me is he got away as easily as he did. i guarantee there will be an

exhaustive review by the secret service. >> he has the equivalent of an ak 47. they know who he is within minutes because he abandons his car. it takes them five days to find this guy. >> right. >> judge jeanine: this guy is loaded with ammunition and scope. ready for. >> they he can't mitigate every single random act of violence but can mitigate the negative outcomes from it. the bull let resistant glass worked. unfortunately he got away. i think there will be a review on this. i can imagine there will be maybe some heads rolling on that. they can't be happy that that component of it. >> and four days to find the bull let shell casings. four days to find the bul bull. i know when a bird hits my window. >> it is 18 acres. >> judge jeanine: they should have looked, i just saw it in the picture. anyway, thanks for being with

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