>> so was the nypd was informed? >> yes. >> if you were just joining us, we are still watching now mayor michael bloomberg here in new york city make the announcement both here and in new york, on the post and to the world that they have arrested a 27-year-old al-qaeda sympathizer. they are laying out their evidence against this manthey say they had to move in quickly on him yesterday because he was getting ready to do what they call drilling the holes for bombs, that there were targets here in new york city. we've been monitoring this for the better of twelve, thirteen minutes. you see the commissioner of police, ray kelly, at the podium now. he's taking questions from local media here in new york about exactly what evidence they have taken from this man's apartment in northern manhattan. what we know about him, his name is jose pimental.

we've learned he's an unemployed native to the dominican republic, a convert to islam, a u.s. citizen. made his friends and family nervous over the last year or so that they have been watching him with talk about want to go change his name to osama husein in honor of what he called his hero, osama bin laden and saddam hussein. as our coverage continues and we wrap up, we will return to huckabee already in progress. but for now the breaking news. let's watch and listen. >> we know that he was going to test it in the mail box. [inaudible question] >> he was looking in locations outside of new york city. yes, sir. >> is there a reason the fbi is not here and they didn't take part in the investigation? >> we work very closy with him on this case. there is an assessment process

that is engaged in by the federal authorities with the u.s. attorney. we just believe that we couldn't let it go any further. we had to act yesterday. >> i was just trying to get a different view. yes. [inaudible question] >> our office has been in touch with the southern district of new york before action was taken in this case. new york state ten years ago enacted its own state terrorism laws. empowering prosecutors to take actions and file charges as was done in this case. as the commissioner indicated, there was communication with federal authorities. the nypd intelligence division had been working with our office in connection with this case,

and our office simply followed through, and given the timeline the commissioner outlined, collective belief was that it was appropriate to proceed under state charges. both jurisdictions have laws. the charge in the complaint in this case is possession of an explosive device with an intent to use it for terrorist purposes, which raises it to an offense as charged with a substantial prison sentence of 15 to life with a maximum of 25 to life. and there are going to be cases where local authorities, local prosecutors work with the city of new york police department on these investigations in concert with, to supplement with and to aid in the broader fight against terrorism that affects our city. >> sir? yes, sir. >> mr. kelly, al-qaeda --

[inaudible question] >> we can't really hear up here. >> he said is this a textbook case of a lone wolf not having any contacts with anybody else? >> yes. i think that is a correct statement. we haven't seen any connection to any sort of international organization. we know that he did attempt to contact alwaki and he received no answer. but he clearly was energized, and after the death of alwaki. we know for the last two years that he's been reading a lot of jihaddist information. he talked a lot of inflammatory rhetoric. but as i said, it appears at this juncture that the death of anwr alwaki is what motivated him and increased his tempo

significantly. he decided to build a bomb august of this year, but clearly he jacked up his speed, so to speak, after the elimination of anwr alwaki. >> and as i said, there's no evidence he worked with anybody else. he appears to be a total lone wolf, sir, you had a question? >> is this something the fbi declined to state or the southern district declined to prosecuteñi this case? is that a possibility? >> the fbi is fully is fully ind of this case. we have a close relationship with the jttf. because of the immediacy of the situation, that was a significant factor in making the arrest yesterday and using the state laws to do it. >> i want to get these people. yes. right there. >> you mentioned his intent to

go to yemen. did he of make it to yemen and what brought him down to new york city? >> i can't hear. >> did he of go to yemen and what brought him here? >> he never went to yemen. he did talk about going to yemen to train for jihad. it was a domestic situation that caused him to come to new york. he had a divorce from his wife. she relocated, and he relocated with her, even though they had separated. >> last question, miss. >> can you tell us more about this man? >> no. i know that he was married and divorced, or at least clearly separated, and that was the reason that he came from

skinectedy to new york. he was there and was there for five years and came back to new york. >> i think we are going around. we really don't know any more than what we've said or certainly not going to say more than what we said. this is just another example of new york city, because we are an iconic city, because we are a city that welcomes people from around the world boshes we let people come here and say what they want to say, and as you have seen, protest when they want to protest, this is a city that people that want to take away our freedoms gravitate to and focus on and this is why the city investors the money to have a thousand police officers every single day work on intelligence and counterterrorism, and why we work so closely with the

district attorney so we can keep this city statement it's a battle perhaps we will never win but we have to make sure we don't lose and we to lose and we will do what we've been doing, keeping our eyes and ears open, using the best equipment and the best trained people we can possibly put together. i just wanted to say thank you to all of the participants who remain name less, obviously, but there's an awful lot of people out there working for the district attorney and for the commissioner who have brought this person to the state where he's been arrested and protected us from what could have actually been something that would have killed a lot of people. thank you very much. >> all right. we have been watching mayor michael bloomberg here in new york city along with the police commissioner and the district attorney talk about the charges and the particulars as much as they say they can share about a tearer investigation that broke wide open, they say, yesterday

because they had to move in on the suspect hurriedly because they thought he was to gear up to begin to possibly hit some of his targets here in new york city. they listed some of them as police patrol cars, postal facility. this jose pimental is 27 years old. we learned quite a bit about him. i've just been handed the complaint and i want to read to you the first paragraph of this so you can get an idea what this case says. they are charging this defend on november 19th, possession of explosive substance with the intent to use the same unlawfully against the person and property of another. a crime of terrorism. they are saying committed with intent to intimidate. we learned of his adherence to not just al-qaeda but a name that you may recognize, anwr al-awalki. he was killed by the cia back in september. we knew he had a magazine called

"inspire." terrorists around the world were reading it online. what we learned tonight is that this suspect took some directions from that very magazine and was, in fact, trying to even al-qaeda up to the time of his death. we will step away for a commercial break. when we come back we will continue to visit the news that is breaking now. stay with us. [ malannouncer ] imagine facing the day

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a guy they say was loyal to al-qaeda, had even reached out to some of its operatives from here inside the united states it make contact. they call him a lone wolf with aspirationings of doing bigger things. what we learned were his intentions to take targets here in new york city. police squad cars, public facilities like post offices, and to target our u.s. military. all of this we learned from the mayor was from his motivation, they say, because we have troops in iraq and afghanistan. 27-year-old jose pimental. at this news conference that just wrapped up moments ago, we carried it here for more than 30 minutes, along with reporters' questions, we saw the evidence that they brought in to show the public. and one of them was a reenactment. they did a duplicate bomb of what they say this pimental was building inside his home.

they built it and then showed us the video of the kind of damage this kind of pipe bomb would do. here it is. take a watch. [explosion noise] >> this, the video that the authorities just showed at the news conference that wrapped up a couple of moments ago. a up k he will things stood out. the big question if he's a lone wolf, what does that money? he said he was reading materials on line, something called "inspire" magazine. that sounds familiar. an warm ar al-awlaki is a person we took out in september of this year, our force it is. let's go to judith miller. she's a fox news contributor and a pulitzer prizewinning journalist. she's joining us by phone. are you with us? >> yes, i'm with you. >> can you talk to me about the importance and the detail about this "inspire" magazine? >> this magazine that my

colleague and i wrote about in the wall street journal back in november was al-qaeda's effort to reach americans and english-speaking jihaddy, and they found their target in young mr. jose pimental. he literally used a recipe in an article called "how to make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom" to make the bomb that he was planning to use here in new york. it was literally following the recipe that had been given by "inspire." "inspire" was put out by a saudi american, named kahn, who was also killed in a drone attack, along with anwar al-awlaki in yemen. soe hasn't been issuing any new editions since that time. there are several important

things about this. one, if you can literally use a recipe to make a bomb right off the internet, it shows you the power of the internet. and it shows you how it can inspire and aid terrorism. two, remember this young man is a hispanic convert to islam. and we know that many of those have been arrested and accused in terrorist attacks are converts to islam and a disproportionate number of them are hispanic in nature. we don't understand why that is, whether or not there is something about macho culture that overlapse with militancy but we know it's been a huge problem. the third thing is the third thing to keep in mind is that this is a homegrown guy. he never went to yemen, he never went to somalia, never hooked up with any of the folks that he was trying to reach who had inspired him. he learned what he needed to know right here. and in an nypd study of terrorist attacks of the 33

jihaddist spots that the nypd looked at, 30 of them were from homegrown guys like mr. pimental. >> one of the notes that i took down from the mayor was this represents to him the kind of threat that fbi director robert muller and others have warned about. the particular scenario of the homegrown terrorist here who was a united states citizen. we know he was a native of the dominican republic but they say he's a united states citizen, a convert to islam. what kind of a threat are we really looking at? >> this is the problem with homegrown terror. we aren't really sure what sets people off. mr. pimental was talking big, talking about terrorist attacks for at lea two years and the police were watching him for at least two years. all of a sudden he starts to become active, and we don't really understand why. as commissioner kelly said, even though he really stepped up his

activities in september after al-awlaki was killed, he started making the bomb in august before al-awlaki was killed. so we don't know whether or not they kind of just wake up one day and say, wow, the time has come, weather friends speak to them. these are all things we hope will come out in a trial or some kind of perhaps there is more information about motive in the indictment which i haven't seen. but the fact that this young man was able to make an operational bomb, and that the nypd had been watching him every step of the day i think highlights the importance of the nypd counterterrorism program, which, i should add, has been under enormous pressure lately because there have been a series of articles saying these people are too intrusive, the surveillance is too intense, we shouldn't be

watching muslim student associations. the nypd says we have to watch everybody who may be a suspect. >> judith, we appreciate your context and perspective on this as we wind down. that intelligence unit here, that division playing a huge role they say in this arrest. thank you very much, judith. >> you're welcome. >> we are going to rejoin huckabee, already in progress, right after a quick commercial break. just to let you know, we will stay on this story and have updates throughout the evening on fox, the most powerful news. stay with us. [ adrianna ] when i grill lobster, i make sure it's a melt in your mouth kind of experience. [ john ] the wood fires up the grill a little bit hotter so you really get a good sear and it locks in the juices. surf & turf -- you n't go wrong [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobster's surf & turf event. choose from three grilled combinations all under $20. like our maine lobster with peppercorn sirloin or our new bacon-wrapped shrimp with blue cheese sirloin for $14.99. [ adrianna ] i think the guests are going to take a bite

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>> attorney general eric holder is taking a lot of heat for his handling of operation fast and furious. they bought assault weapons in

order to track them down but one of the weapons was used by mexican drug cartels to till border agent brian terry last september. he was grilled last week over his knowledge of the program. he testified he didn't know about the operation, that it was not directly tied to terry's death, and he initially passed on the opportunity to apologize to brian terry's family. florida's allen west is one of the dozens of congressmen that believe holder is not telling the whole truth. >> if the president does not agree with that stance, it is also complicity in this horrible event, operation fast and furious. >> congressman allen west is joining me now. congressman, thank you for being here. [applause] >> you have called for the resignation of eric holder. do you think it is going to happen? >> well, i would pray that it would happen. i would hope that we would have

people that would step up to the plate and show honor and character because it is not just operation fast and furious, it goes all the way back to february of 2009 and holder said america was a nation ofs. the fact we see him bring a lawsuit against sovereign states that are trying to protect borders and securing their citizens from illegal immigrants in arizona and alabama. so i say that it is either ineptness and incompetence or outright misleading the congress and the american people. >> during the bush administration there was a lot of controversy over attorney general alberto gonzalez and it had to do with the firing of some u.s. attorneys. there were calls for his resignation, and he eventually did resign. democrats are saying this is retaliation. that it's not so much eric holder has done something outrageously wrong but the republicans are just trying to

pay them back for what happened to gonzalez. your reaction to that? >> that's a horrible stance to take because that's trying to use relativism. this is not about relativism, this is about something doing something absolutely wrong. when you are the attorney general there is some semblance of standards we are asking you to maintain, and operations sump as this that puts guns in the hands of the mexican drug cartels and criminals, and the result is many mexican citizens day, we are still picking up weapons across the border, and the fact that worried patrol agent brian terry lost his life, someone has to be held responsible. and that's what i was brought up with my 22 years of united states military, is that leaders take responsibility. >> i am going to ask you about the elect i have implications of this because if republicans sort of let it slide i'm sure the president would be thrilled not to hear about this anymore. but he's going into the middle of a very tough election season. if republicans keep pressing on

eric holder's conduct and specifically on the death of brian terry, that is not something he is going to want. are republicans going to keep pushing for this? and in what way do you expect the president to respond to that? >> well, we are absolutely going to continue to push on it through hearings, and also as well as us, you know, respective members of congress, continue to bring this issue forward. i think it is very heinous that the mainstream media is not covering this. there comes a time when the media is going to have to stop trying to provide cover for this administration, whether it's solyndra or in fact the president and the keystone excel project but this resulted in the death of an american and someone has to be held accountable. it goes right to the top with eric holder and if it goes higher than that, then we need to investigate that, as well. >> congressman west, thank you for joining us. we will keep an eye on this situation to see if they decide

to face responsibility and will he do the president a favor and walk the plank? that sometimes is the case. thank you again, congressman. always a pleasure. >> thank you. yes, sir. >> well, he was at the center of washington's biggest corruption scandals in decades and he played politicians and his clients for millions. the notorious jack takes us inside the nation's capital when we come back. o pills can last a. ♪

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terrorism charges. jose pimental planned to target police cars, post offices and troops returning home from iraq and afghanistan. suspect described as a lone wolf, al-qaeda sympathizer. also reports have the federal budget cutting super committee on the verge of failing to make a decision. republican co-chair jeff of texas calling the inability to make a deal a huge missed opportunity. they need to make cuts of 1.$2 trillion to our deficit. let's get you back to "huckabee." >> each weekday join me for the huckabee report on radio, all across america. it's also available as a podcast. sign up for the facebook page or follow me on twitter. washington has always had its

share of crooked characters and corrupt cronies, but none more infamous in recent years than jack abramhoff. a highly influential lobbyist with close ties to the bush administration and ranking congressman, he would make deals with powerful politicians, often promising high paying jobs in the future. he would give lavish gifts in exchange for political favors, including tax breaks for his clients. >> he gave things of value to public officials, including foreign and domestic trips, campaign contributions, excessive meals and entertainment, and other things of value, all with the intent and at times with the understanding that the public official would act to benefit abramhoff or his client. >> the lust for power and money caught up with him when he was

going for gaming rights. >> i got a phone call this morning from chief of the texas kikapo. >> you're kidding. >> we're going, he wants to meet with bush about oil drilling rights. he said if he wants to get it done, it will cost a million dollars retainer. >> can you get that in the end zone? >> he loves what we did with the chippewa. >> show me the money! >> give me five. keep it under the radar. >> abramhoff and his associates collected tens of millions of dollars in fees from poor indian tribes, while in some cases working separately to shut down their casinos. in 2006 abramhoff was convicted of fraud and conspiracy. also convicted with him, two white house officials, ohio congressman bob nay, and nine other lobbyists and congressional aids. >> jack served three and a half years in federal prison for his

crimes. he's written a fascinating new book called capital punishment. i spoke with jack abramhoff earlier. >> jack, when is the first time you recall crossing the line as a lobbyist and getting into something that could be criminal behavior? >> well, when i was a lobbyist i didn't think i was crossing lines, but that's the problem. >> you never thought of some. >> no, no. i never thought i was crossing lines. the problem is, first of all, the line are drawn in a way that that's kind of murky, as you know, in that business so you are never quite sure where the line is. and also the way i operated, unfortunately in those days, i was hyperaggressive, and i wanted to win, win, win. and i stopped caring where the lines were. that was the problem. >> but once you were arrested, indicted, put on trial, there had to be a point at which obviously where you said, you know what? i've really done some horrible things. when did that happen? >> after it happened and it was

clear to me i wasn't coming back, when it first happened, when i was first i guess when senator mckee took my e-mails and started making them public and the justice department started getting involved, i told my lawyers go to the justice department with everything and show them everything. i don't think i have really done anything horrible here. i'm a lobbyist. and that's horriblin itself. and let's sort it out. let them just see what it is and let's get this over with. and then we started going through my e-mails and i started look at things, they had 850,000 e-mails that i had sent over a course of a little less than ten years. that's a lot of e-mails. >> yeah, it is. >> did you wish you hit the delete button a little more? >> i am the poster child for don't write in an e-mail something you don't want to read on the front page of the post. virtually everything i wrote i saw on the front page of the

post. and i started looking back at it and it didn't look so good to me. >> you are not a fan of senator mccain. why did he have it out for you? >> i don't know. i sort of represented a wing of the party he sort of disdained, an unbashed consecutive, uncompromising wing of the party. ideal logically we were in different places. he had his sort of cadre of lobbyists that he loved and helped. i wasn't one of them. they turned out to be my comettors, unfortunately. and finally, when he ran for president in 2000, i did everything i could do to keep him from squeezing money out of my clients and winning the race. >> let's talk about the fact that there are lobbyists galore, 35,000 registered lobbyists. that does not include the people who are not technically

lobbyists but they are consultants and partners in law firms and rain makers. jack, the system is pretty corrupt. >> horrible. >> are there people in high places of power now that are as corrupt as you turned out to be? >> well. >> and that's a blunt question. >> yeah, yeah. i think that the problem is not those that are crossing these murky lines like i did, because frankly you will find a very small percentage of people that pushed that envelope so far that they feel they have to even cross that line. the problem is where the line is. the problem is legal. while people would be engaged in things that are not illegal, and they aren't breaking the law, as we look at them as american citizens from the outside, we are aghast that this is legal and that's rife in the system. >> some of the things you got in trouble for were clearly across a legal line. but if we examine the ethical

behavior of people in washington, not just washington but members of congress and a whole lot of people, most americans would be dumbfounded. >> all of those folks should be barred completely from not only giving campaign contributions but any gra twoty, any favor, anything to people who are public servants in washington. i think that's part of what i talk about. but that's essential. if one doesn't stop it, because at the end of the day, governor, it's all bribe bring. whether you are giving a campaign contribution or buying them dinner or taking them to the ballgame, it's bribery. it may not be called that in the law right now, but it is bribe bring. >> more with jack abramhoff after this. to be more environmentally aware,

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spiriva helps meeathing with copd is no small thing. ask your doctor about spiriva. >> mike: you said ban all of >> you said ban all of the campaign contributions from people who are lobbyists for representatives. is there of going to happen? >> the only way that any of this stuff that i talk about in the book is going to happen is if the american people continue to rise up like they did in the last election, the tea parties, and throw these guys out, the people that won't do something about this. if that doesn't happen, unfortunately, no, it won't happen. instead what happens is fake reform happens that they put bills forward that don't mean a thing, they pat each other on the back, they find a jack abramhoff and throw him in prison and all cheer and throw their hats in the air but meanwhile nothing gets fixed. >> there were people who were

very harsh with you that had done business with you. how did it make you feel when they abandoned you and left you out there to twist in the wind and you knew full well these were people who took trips with you. i'm sure you have been asked many times but are there some people who particularly hurt you? i'm not talking about hurt you in the sense that they were friends and willing to be seen with you until the day you not in trouble and then they didn't know you at all? >> sure there were, but ultimately they are all politicians and a politician is with you when he needs you and when you need him he's nowhere to be found. >> who hurt you the most? who bothered you? >> it's hard to pick something, pick one out. >> give me a few. >> i try not to focus on it because the thing is, for my own personal growth from the bottom of the pit that i was in and even in the book i do talk a little bit about individuals but i'm trying to focus on a system, and for me to name people and go

after people, i just don't, i just haven't been doing it. >> you mentioned some people. >> yeah, sure. >> let me say a couple. campbell is one you mentioned, as well as a republican, kent conrad. >> yeah. >> and i want to make this point. it was not just -- this is not a democratic problem, it's not a republican problem. >> right. >> if there is one thing in washington that's bipartisan, it's corruption. is that a fair statement? >> that's well-put. >> is that a fair statement? >> and maybe the only thing they free on. >> i don't see a lot of difference in the way the parties once in power kind of -- the way they play the game. >> everybody is a human being. and there are certain lures for a human being and certain entrapments that we get into and this is the case here. we have a system that is unfortunately set up so that human beings fall into the pit. and not everybody will necessarily fall in the pit. there are some exceptions. but why have a system that it's set up that people are going to

do ultimately what is immoral. >> what about term limits? >> it's essential. >> if they had a a term they were going to have to leave office and go home. >> it's essential. i was against it as a lobbyist or i would say i was against it because we want people to have the right to vote for whoever they want, but the truth is i was against it because once you gained influence in a congressional office and you spent your money to gain that influence you don't want them going away. lobbyists are essential but if we don't have it, there's no way to clean up the system. >> money and party fuel. which is the more intense lure that is the most dangerous that you found for your life and that you see in others. >> power is by far more of a lure in washington than money. money is a lure but main toy to obtain a lifestyle and power position. people are all about appearances in washington so the money comes into play there. they don't live in the way perhaps some of the more wealthy

people in the world do. power is heavily concentrated there. one of the things that's essential and the only way to really fix things is to somehow get rid of the things that washington is doing, diffuse the power and send it back to the state. because the more power they have, the more things they are doing, the more lobbyists there are. you have to have the 3500 lobbyists because they are doing many things. there is plenty of business for them because of the centralization. >> jack abramhoff, he's a name you are familiar with. he's been called everything imaginable, from creep, powerful stuff. i think you seed to he did some bad things but he's not a bad person and he has some awfully important things to say about how to fix the culture of corruption that's become our political system and iope we pay attention to it. we will be right back. coming up, world famous cellist

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>> mike: well, he is the most famous cellist in the world but you have never heard him the >> he is the most famous cellist in the world but you have never heard him the way you are about to hear him now. he's inspired by bluegrass. please welcome yo-yo ma and the new band the goat rodeo sessions. what a pleasure and honor to have you here. [applause] the obvious question is where on earth do you get the title the goat rodeo sessions? >> governor, you, i think, know what it means because you said it was an aviator term. >> it is an aviator term, but what is it doing with music? >> well, tell us what it means in aviation? >> in aviation, if you talk to

air force guys, a goat rodeo, there's like hundreds of things that all have to go right in order for something to come out successfully. and what they are saying is it's an impossibility. i guess what you are saying is the music you have crafted is almost an impossibility to put together. why? >> why? well, you just defined it. because on paper we might not seem to be the band that's going to make wonderful music together. but we had one thg going for us. >> what was that? >> couple things. first thing is these are some of the nicest human beings on the planet, and that -- >> not chris. >> chris is second. >> okay. >> he's in the second tier. >> everybody else. and then in addition to which generosity of spirit and great virtually dvirtuosity.

only in america, i think, can we ha a band like this that really decided to work together because we wish to do so. and, yes, it's as much inspired by bluegrass or classical music but really it's inspired by friendship. >> the am bum is so incredibly fantastic. the goat rodeo sessions with here and heaven. ♪

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♪ [applause] >> my heartfelt thanks to yo-yo ma and all of the guests on today's show. i hope you and your family have a wonderful and bless he had

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