>> brian: good booking. >> gretchen: hope you have a fantastic day. log on for our after the show show. happy thanksgiving. bill: good morning. we'll start with a terror bomb plot busted. police say he's an al qaeda sympathizer plot technology use pipe bombs to attack police or soldiers returning from overseas. here is the video that shows the damage the bombs could have done. the suspect apparently looking to strike back after the death of al-awlaki in yemen. i'm bill hemmer, how you doing? martha: i'm just fine, how are you? i'm mario monti. we have been talking about this

terror suspect. he was originally from the dough min man republic. they say they have had hair eye on him since 2009. >> the suspect was a so-called lone wolf. motivated by the press of troops in iraq and stan already. he was not part of a larger conspiracy. over two years ago the new york city police department became aware of a follower of the radical cleric anwar thrawky. -- al-awlaki. bill already laura has been watching this all night. good morningo morning. what are they say being this lone wolf theory? >> reporter: he's being described as a u.s. citizen and

died jr. sympathizer with no formal ties to al qaeda. he was arraigned last night in new york city charged with providing support for an act of terrorism, conspiracy and weapons charges. he had been brought to the attention of the new york police department intelligence division in may of 2009. his anger and resentment toward u.s. citizens grew after muslim cleric anwar al-awlaki was killed. he then began assembling three pipe bombs. >> he talked about bombing police cars and a place station. his behavior morphed from talking about such acts to

action, namely, bomb building. report are also talked about changing his name to usama hussein. we have been talking with the nypd. they tell fox he is thought to have acted alone. they devote 1,000 officers daily to combat terrorism in transportation hubs and critical checkpoints in kilo cases. the defense attorney says they will be looking into how this all went down. >> we don't know if there is an entrapment issue at this point. >> reporter: he will be back bak in court november 25. bill: lawyer a ingle, thank you, here in new york.

martha has more. martha: the lone wolf plot remains a serious threat and no city knows that better than new york. the big apple remains a prime target for would-be terrorists. there have been 14 terrorist plots broken up against new york city since then and thankfully so far none of them have been successful. bill: peter brooks is here live to talk about these lone wolf plots and what can be done to stop them. martha: a fox news alert. super fail is what this is being called, a bipartisan group tasked with shark our nation's debt. they real write could not come to any sort of agreement and they will announce that later on today after the markets close ostensibly though the markets seem to have digested this so

far. some democrats are even laying the blame at the white house door. >> if it doesn't work, then no one has done enough on it. he' the leader of this great country and we want him to step forward. >> talks with taken place over the weekend but we need to come to an agreement. it has to be estimated by the congressional budget office about it end of monday. martha: let many go to capitol hill. we are joined by mike emanuel. i don't know that this is any surprise to any of us who have been covering this story or anybody watching it. the super committee members say they will keep talking -- they haven't gotten together and talked since november 1. is there any chance that they could have some kind of second last minute dole here? >> there will be some small

bipartisan meetings through the course of today. but the meet versus not produced anything yet. they were at a frenzied pace late last week then things broke down and i was told last friday the super committee was on life support. we are expecting barring some last second miracle, a maybe statement from the co-chairs late today after the markets probably close. bottom line, they couldn't get owfl their respective corner. here is as the * senator jon kyl. >> republic cams put the only breakthrough on the table for tax reform. and we got nothing but rejection from the other side. >> reporter: senator kyl calls this one of the biggest legislative disappointment ofs

his career. martha: the democrats are saying the republicans wouldn't budge on the notion of taxes. are they holding to that now? >> reporter: they are indeed. senator kerry telling "fox and friends" the only thing holding back from a deal was the idea of not extending the bush tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. for the democratic view here is senator john kerry. >> facts are facts. this is not finger pointing. this i saying we are stuck because we do not believe that the wealthiest people in america ought to get a huge tax cut when we are suppose to be doing deficit reduction. >> reporter: we expect some small group meetings today but nobody is particularly optimistic at this point, just waiting to pull the plug on the super committee after the markets close today. martha: a lot of people were

wary about this idea when it first came into being. mike were thank you very much. bill: if you remember when all this started there were high homes for the super committee. the co-chair jim hensarling said congress would be judged by how they deal with this issue. >> history will write we wrote the first chapter of america's decline but we kept faith with the founding fathers and left the next generation with liberty and limitless opportunities. the choice is ours. let the work again. bill: now that work is done with derow results in that my he. march from they admit defeats. a series of sweeping automatic cuts. this was the penalty hang over this group, they couldn't reach 1.2 trillion in cuts.

this is part of a $44 billion budget they were supposed to cut $1.2 trillion. don't get there, then they will have this. these cuts will total about a trillion. $400 billion would come in non-mandatory spending. spending for medicare would be slashed. the cuts are expected to go into effect in 2013 and could last until 2021. we have a lot of elections in the meantime with all of that. lawmakers are already writing legislation to reverse those automatic cuts. bill: with the super committee heading for a train wreck. what is the effect on our sputtering economy. stuart varney, good morning pow.

the impact is felt where and how. >> reporter: it's fairly extensive and almost immediate. there is the likelihood of a further downgrade in america debt. if those automatic cuts do not take effect, much more likely to sea downgrade. number two, we are going to see financial chaos in d.c. the next few weeks because this failure of the super committee with several issues on the table which must be worked out about it even of the year, unemployment benefit, the pending plan, the old one expired december 16. the amt patch. the medicare payment to doctors. all these issues have to be resolved in five weeks with congress in recess for some of that time. so you have an erosion of confidence in our political system, and that means you will see a selloff in the stock market and the gold market. your 401k is going to take a hit

this morning. this morning about 120, 130 points down for the dow, gold may slip below $1,700 an ounce. it's a decline in confidence. martha: we are going to speak to a ranking member of the senate budget committee senator jeff sessions. he says they should watch out for a lasth-minute tbim toik avoid failure of the super committee. bill: there is more to talk about. we'll find the story that will be nice to hear. some roads in southern california crumbling into the ocean. this is not one of them. a live report at the scene of this devastating landslide. wondering how much more the

earth is going to move out there. martha: there is a new witness to came forward -- they came forward back at the time, but now people are listening to her. the new evidence about cries for help from the water that were heard from a neighboring boat and what it means to those who were there when the oscar-nominated actress plunged to her death. bill: also newt gingrich surging in brand-new poll numbers. should mitt romney be nervous about the new newt? >> do i want some bureaucracy deciding that on a percentage basis this is not worth the investment? or do i want a country that cares about every life? that is what next year is all about. [applause]

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bill: another shakeup at the top of the republican presidential field. this time mitt romney battling it out with newt begin privilege. in 2008 romney led early and fizzled in the end. should romney be worried now? tony, good morning to you. where is the mo going for gingrich, tony? >> gingrich is occupying the same space rick perry did beforehand and michele bachman did before them. he has not broken 25 per of the

republican electorate. i don't know if gingrich is going to be that problem, though. bill: if you go back to june and see where gingrich was be he was 12% back in june. if you see the trend it was dawn ward. down to 4% in september. now, you see the arc come up the other way. if you look at mitt romney. here he is at 19 per back in june. but after that 27% and it stayed along this line. now at 20% on this chart compared to gingrich's 19%. what does that tell you in your history of studying polls like these? >> your point is correct. newt gingrich is surging because he's the anti-romney. romney is trending downward

notwithstanding his good performance in the debates. there is distrust on the republican right in mitt romney. newt gingrich is the beneficiary. he's ahead in iowa, close in newham shire and close in south carolina. bill were you have seen others rise and shot down within a week or 10 days. romney has spent 37 days in new hampshire and 5 days in iowa. the campaign with romney is in the northeast with new hampshire. >> that's true. but the magellan poll had 27%, 29% for gingrich. it doesn't augur well for the former massachusetts governor. >> i think romney has don't well

this time. there is no alternative in new hampshire. they want to see what you just said, romney spent a lot of time in new hampshire. 35 days. he's building that fire wall. he's going to have that fire wall in new hampshire and that's letting him go on offense in iowa where he is airs ads. bill: in 1996 pat buchanan over bob dole. and 2000, john mccain over george bush. and that played to mccain's favor in 2008 when he beat romney again. >> if newt is able to be even or slightly win iowa, then hold romney even in new hampshire. those are weaker states for romney, stronger for gingrich. so if -- it's a big if, newt can

sustain himself against the barrage coming at him. he's in the position he could win his nomination and shake up america in ways two weeks ago no one would have thought possible. bill: the polling was done apparently after all the criticism came out about freddie mac. >> republicans are always sceptical when one of their own are being attacked by the media. look at herman cain. even after all the allegations about this conduct came out. bill: we'll see whether this holds. thank you, doug. doug schoen and pat caddell say 2012 may be the moment for hillary clinton. doug and pat have more on that as they host "campaign

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relentless rain pounding southern california and triggering massive mudslides. imagine if this is in your backyard. our kttv affiliate is live in san pedro. is there any damage to homes? i imagine there is. >> reporter: you would think so. but fortunately we are on paseo delmar drive where there are no homes. there is heavy equipment in place. there was work already gone on here to storm drains beneath the surface of the street, and that's when the massive collapse occurred. another large chunk giving way here. this is where an earlier slide had taken out a section of the road. the heavier rains yesterday

exacerbated the problem. storm drained had fallen into the ocean previously the roads that connect to the beach are bubbling. there are cracks in the earth up to 15 feet deep. the question is whether this will spread and endanger nearby homes. the city put out emergency requested on bids or geotechnical studies. for the moment workers are back in place here, they will continue the work they have been doing to the storm drains beneath the surface of the paseo delmar road. the skies have cleared and there is no threat of rain right now. so that's good news. martha: thank you so much for that report. good to have you with us this morning. bill: 27 minutes paths hour, all

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preserving the bush tax cuts? >> that's their political spin and that's what the president laid out. since he made no effort to sist this committee or encourage to it reach a conclusion i would assume it many been their goal to try to create this situation. but there is a problem with spending. even if you got these tax increased they want, let's see where they are exactly? what increases are they? do they have a plan themselves that would lead area out of the debt crisis we are in to help put this nation on a sound financial course? that's what's missing. the republican house laid out a good plan. the president except for his irresponsible budget and the republican senate has done nothing to lay out a plan that can be analyzed by the american people. martha: i think this whole thing is mind boggling. i think the american people look at this situation and can't

believe their ears. we are talking about $1.2 trillion in a 10-year time period in which we would send $44 trillion. of the $44 trillion they can't find $1.2 trillion in the budget to cut? i think it's exasperating to the people out there. the president, why do you believe he did not get more involved? >> because he -- the commander-in-chief is absent from battle. admiral mullen says debt is the greatest threat to our national security and the president is gone. can you imagine the greatest threat to our country dwarfs any other problem this nation has, just look at europe. and the president is not providing leadership,

encouraging his committee not to reach an agreement so h can attack and run a campaign on that? i don't think it's going to work. i think it's so irresponsible. we can increase discretionary non-defense spending 24 per. this year his budget calls for 10% increases in energy department, education departments, the state department. martha: what democrats are going to say, if the president gets involved in this republicans will be gleeful at making sure nothing he has his name attached to goes through. that's the reason. i would hazard a guess he does want want to be attached to this whole thing. >> absolutely. it's a clever political move. and i hear commentator saying how clever the president is not to put his hand on this.

think about what that's saying. the president is not going to be engaged in the greatest challenge to america's future? can you imagine a governor or mayor not being involved if their city or state is heading to financial disaster? it's not clever. it's irresponsible, it's wrong. it's a failure of leadership. absent without leave. i can't imagine it, frankly. the american people are going to wake up to this before long. martha: when you look at the simpson proposals put forth, they are similar to what pat toomey put fourth. a quarter spending increases and 75 person expande spending cuts. that was the president's commission he didn't follow through on. it looked like that would have been nice middle ground. >> that's exactly correct.

what you want to look at is what plan on paper have they ever presented. the only thing the president did was submit a budget early in the year. it increased taxes dramatically. but it increased spending more and actually made the deficit worse, not better. we are at a point in time when we have got to eliminate every single aspect of wasteful spending. congress has not done that. the president has not led in that. he's the chief executive who administers the agencies. he need to be more involved in bringing spending under control. martha: it's a sad situation on all side to be sure. you look at what happened in greece and you wonder if that's where the country is head because they were in a similar position. bill: there is new violence erupting in the streets of cairo, egypt. more than two dozen reportedly

killed over the weekend and most of them killed near cairo's tahrir square. that the epicenter of the uprising that ousted hosni mubarak. why has the violence increased? is this suddenly or not. >> reporter: there is so many anger by the young protesters who had so much hope when the protests began. they are putting the blame on the ruling military council. the focus taking place in tahrir square. police launched an assault last night to try and clear the square. but it didn't work. bill: what does this mean for elections? on the calendar they are expected to take place next monday. does that happen or not? >> reporter: it's expected to happen, bill. one source on the ground in cairo tells me it is look

abysmal for these elections. they do not expect this to go:smoothly. they expect the violence to continue. there is a lot of anger toward the man who head the military council. they have people on the streets today calling for him to be killed. they are upset that the elections that are going to take place, there won't be results until march. bill: martha? martha: there is a growing backlash against black friday, the day after thanksgiving. 200,000 people signed an online petition to hope to get tarring tote drop their plans to open at midnight on thanksgiving. some bargain hunters are already -- it's monday -- camping out outside a best buy in st. peters burke, florida. >> we are having fun here,

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martha: 32 homes have been destroyed a wildfires moved through reno. folks who lost it all are still just in absolute shock. >> you can see where there is total destruction. but some of the artwork actually made it. >> everything, everything is gone. martha: what a mess. can you imagine? look at that woman's home. they believe the fire may have been started by downed power lines. >> the suspect was a so-called lone wolf motivated by his own resentment of americans troops in iraq and afghanistan as well as inspired by al qaeda

propaganda. bill: that was new york mayor michael bloom berg describing jose pimentel accused of plotting to attack police and soldiers returning from overseas. >> it would not have required a very difficult investigation. this is what we are coming up with? then we are not where we have to be. bill: former cia officers peter brooks is with us. good morning. what do you make of what we know at the moment? >> the fact of the matter is we still have a threat here. it's very disturbing that this individual didn't have to travel overseas for training. he probably became cad rallized

online and learned how to build this bomb online, and it happened once again. this is the 43rd plot against the united states since 9/11. one-third of those plots have taken place in the last 2 1/2 years. so the idea of us becoming complacent as the holidays are approaching -- this is thanksgiving week -- we need to be thinking about that and understand the threat to us still exists. bill: some places can be fatal. everyday citizens can play a role in this. but lone wolves are still an issue. as far as i can tell they always will be. >> that's right. especially with the ability to radicalize people over the internet. anybody using a computer can read these jihadist web sites and decide to take some sort of action. through some of these other web sites they can figure out how to

make a bomb in their basement which is basically what was going on here. so it's very, very troubling. despite some of the successes we have had getting rid of usama bin laden, killing anwar al-awlaki. we still have this threat to this date. i'm in washington, and we are another iconic city that could be in the terrorist cross-hairs. bill: what does it say that he had loyalty toward al-awlaki. >> he was a charismatic figure with followers. they are not all gone. he was just one of the leaders of that organization, and we have to worry about the rise of other charismatic terrorists who want to do harm to americans and march can interests.

despite to think about the holidays and other things, american citizens have to be village -- have to be vigilant and they have to tell people if they see something that's not right. bill: why were federal authorities not called in on this? >> i'm not quite sure on that, i'm not a lawyer. as a counter-terrorism type or national security type. i'm glad somebody was on top of it. the fact of the matter is, they were in concert with federal authorities. one thing we had to worry about after 9/11 was the controversy piping of information and lack of sharing. i hope there was coordination with federal authorities. because we have had 14 or 15 cases in the last 2 1/2 years. if that trend lynn continue that means we'll have more of them and that information sharing is critical.

bill: joe hay pimentel age 27 originally from the dominican republic. harris: a presidential candidate says it is time for this nation to repair for war with iran. we are going to tell you who said that. we'll get john bolton's take on it. bill: she is shocked. taylor swift winning big at the american music award. her stunned reaction that went on for about 27 minutesle we'll show you part of that in a few moments.

bill: it was a magical night for

singer songwriter taylor swift. you can see it all over her face. a stunned swift. i mean stunned. watch her. also winning for favorite country female artist and favorite country album. >> oh, my god. thank you to the fans. please never change. i can't believe this is happening to me. this is so crazy. thank you so much to the fans -- the fans and also to the fans -- you are the reason why -- i have no idea -- i did not think this was going to happen, oh, my god. bill: congratulations of after the show she hood red eye flight to new york at madison square garden where heel repeat that performance. martha: i can't believe this is happening. i have a 15-year-old daughter. you cannot say anything bad

about taylor swift. she markets straight to those girls and they hang on every word that comes out of that shocked young lady's mouth. here is another one for you this morning. fighting hunger through music. a group is finding an inspiring way to help feed families in cities battered by tough times. mike tobin has that story for us. >> the youngstown and warren, ohio were prime destinations in america's rust belt. jobs were abundant. the prosperity seems like it would never end, but it did. in 1977 known as black monday. the layoffs cut the population nearly in half. 50 per of those who remain live in poverty. >> every place you go all

position are filled. you can't find a job to save my life. >> reporter: it now has one of the most significant hunger problems in the nation. >> there is a tremendous need in the valley for people that are lost their jobs with the industrial base. and they are hungry. >> reporter: food pantries and kitchens were stressed as the number of people increased by 200 per in the last decade. they addressed it with music. a community group came up with food stock. every band played for free and people paid with cans of food or money for food. in the end boy scouts boxed up 2 tons of food spread through an organization called second harvest. >> this helps bridge the gap so we goat those jobs that will

bring those home out of poverty and unger. and it will happen. >> reporter: there are rays of hope. the chevy plant operating at full production. this a new mine opening up. but until every home has a breadwinner there is a caring community with people willing to get creative to take care of their own. martha: there are so many people hungry in our own country and it is a dire concern. mike, thank you so much. luckily it will help people. bill: here is something for the holidays. dois up 211. watch that today. also this coming up. martha: major developments in one of hollywood's most mysterious death. there is new evidence that has police questioning what happened to natalie wood. bill: i meant the dow is down, not up'.

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martha: well, it was an emotional leap of faith follows by some fighting words as the gop talked religion on the campaign trail. newt gingrich and herman cain courting christian conservatives at a forum in iowa, but it quickly turned from these personal, teary-eyed accounts to fiery politics. >> if you don't work, you won't eat. there's a deep sense of responsibility -- [applause] now, let me, let me now take that and for a brief moment describe occupy wall street. go get a job right after you take a bath. [applause] belle bill zinger. martha: brand new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm martha

maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. did i get you sick, or did you get me sick? martha: we're keeping away from each other today. hi, bill, how's it going? bill: i'm doing fine. newt gingrich surging to the top, but mitt romney is running second this that crucial swing state did not attend that faith forum. martha: that's right. romney and jon huntsman both skipped that event. joined now by brit hume, good morning, brit. >> good morning. martha: so, what to you make of this whole newt gingrich phenomenon that we're experiencing right mow? becausyou sort of thought he was done for a little while ago. >> i think we all did. i think maybe even he did. but he's now having his turn in the hottes hot seat in american politics which is the position of, you know, first place in the non-romney republican presidential, among the non-romney presidential contenders. it hasn't been a very happy place to be for a whole series of candidates. now we'll see if former speaker

can avoid the collapse that has affected all the others that have held that spot. that latest poll is one of several. if you average them out, he's not 13 points ahead, but he is ahead, and one sense is that that's about right in iowa. martha: he had some pretty harsh words for the occupy wall street folks, and we showed a clip of it. >> yeah, i heard it. martha: what he said going into that clip was, you know, they're in a park that they didn't pay for, he went on and on and on about how sort of the whole substance of what they're doing kind of negates what they're talking about because they, in his words, aren't willing to go out and actually get a job to become part of this whole process that then is supposed to come back and feed those who need help. >> well, that was, that comment you heard about, you know, get a job after you take a bath, that's vintage gingrich. he always phrases things in very strong language, and that will meet with approval by a lot of people in iowa, you heard the smattering of applause. his tendency, however, sometimes is to overstate things and to

overdo it, and he gets himself in trouble. he's done that -- remember, earlier this year he attacked paul ryan's budget. paul ryan, of course, the chairman of the house budget committee and a hero to many republicans who put forth a pretty brave plan to try to deal with this excessive spending and these massive deficits, and gingrich attacked it, you know, as right-wing social engineering, and he had to back off that. this is what everybody who's known gingrich for a long time waits for. he gets an opportunity, he's out there in the spotlight, and you just sort of start counting to see how long it will be before something like that happens. martha: that's the question i'll leave you with, how long will it be? >> well, who can say? i think he's disciplined himself in the latter, in the more recent stages of this campaign, better perhaps than he's ever done. he hasn't attacked his fellow candidates, he's presented this sort of avuncular, easy-going demeanor as far as his rivals are concerned, he speaks in depth and with a sort of philosophical touch, and that is

now giving him his moment. we'll see how long it lasts. may last a while. may not. martha: brit, we will see. good to get your thoughts on it this morning. bill: and that is why we keep on watching. the republican white house hopefuls did get emotional about personal challenges and failures that shaped their religious beliefs in life. herman cain and rick santorum getting a bit choked up at certain points. watch here. >> i will never forget before my wife and i were about to get in the car, i said i can do this. she said, we -- >> amen. [applause] >> i decided that the best thing i could do was to treat her differently, the not love her like i did because it wouldn't hurt as much if i lost her.

bill: that was rick santorum describing the emotions he felt when his daughter was born with a life-threatening illness. and herman cain's realization with his wife gloria when he was in stage 4 cancer. frank luntz was the moderator, and he's going to join us a little bit later with more on that. martha? martha: well, a michigan congressman who has been accused of sexually abusing a 12-year-old relative is denying any wrongdoing. democrat dale kilde says these allegations are merely part of a blackmail plot adding, quote, this is a concerted effort by distant relatives, two of whom have a long history of mental illness and multiple run-ins with the law along with political adversaries to destroy my reputation by lying at something that never took place more than 50 years ago. repeated rebuttals to that. bill: new fallout in the

investigation of the botched federal gun-running sting known as fast and furious. some now wondering if eric holder is using the office of the inspector general to deflect questions during congressional's hearings, holder's testimony outraging the family of murdered border agent brian terry. they are demanding the government take responsibility for its role in terry's death. william la jeunesse out of l.a. this morning. william, good morning. >> reporter: well, bill, 13 times in that november hearing the attorney general deferred to the inspector general which is one reason why 52 congressmen, all republicans, want him to resign. now, the president and most democrats support him. they believe operation fast and poor crouse, while ill-conceived, was an arizona problem and holder's blameless because he allegedly didn't know. right now you have two investigations that reflect that split, one by congress, the other by the ig requested by holder who says he is not going to fire people until after that investigation is complete. republicans believe he is using

that as an excuse to stall. >> to stonewall us and deny us access to people who have firsthand knowledge under the ruse that we can't do it because there's an ig investigation going on is coincidental at best and transparent would probably be a better word. >> reporter: investigators also say they are still not getting access to the people or documents they need to answer the questions. bill: when can we expect the inspector general to have the results of that investigation, william? >> reporter: you know, bill, that is actually still several months away, and congressional staff basically, again, say that's several months away. now, i've interviewed some people who have been talked to both by congress, as well as by the inspector general, and they say ig reports are often more about process than actually assessing blame. now, the acting inspector general right now is cynthia. >> nader, she is the acting inspector general, and history shows that ig reports can be weak and a whitewash or scathing

and thorough. >> they are thorough, they leave no stone unturned, they are hard-hitting, so i think we will have a very good and solid analysis of what went wrong in this operation. >> reporter: basically, at this point you're looking at several months away, bill, until we finally get some answers on this, but congress isn't waiting. eric holder will appear before the house judiciary committee on december 8th. back to you. bill: thank you, william. william la jeunesse with the latest in los angeles. martha: and new details now following disturbing video of campus police at uc davis pepper spraying protesters. take a look. well, it didn't seem necessary. there is more to the story. but that is the video, and it clearly shows the officers apparently spraying seated protesters in the face, and

we're now hearing the police chief and two officers from that video have been placed on administrative leave. the university's chancellor is asking the county da to investigate the campus police for use of force. the protest was aligned with the occupy movement. bill: about nine minutes past the hour. on friday this bubbled over. from 30 years ago, another witness coming forward about the night natalie wood was killed. what she heard and a stunning admission from the l.a. sheriff, tell you about that. march ma and some new tactics in the effort to stop iran from building a nuclear weapon. the slick maneuver typically used to crack down on organized crime. >> i'm worried that the obama administration policy on iran is one becoming aggressive weakness. they are not taking any real action against the central bank of iran or other parts of the nuclear program of the islamic republic of iran and then telling everyone else that they shouldn't do anything either.

martha: well, there are a lot of bubbling concerns about what iran is now up to on the world stage, building nukes perhaps, a lot of new ed pointing towards that, supplying nations like libya with the ability to use chemical weapons. a while back now republicans are saying the white house is not doing enough in this regard. here is senator mark kirk on that. >> they'll give some pretty good speeches against iran, but they will not take decisive economic action. that may be because they don't want the disruption in western economies, worried about the prospects for the campaign. but i think this is a national security issue. if we fumble the ball here, we condemn the new generation of americans to a very dangerous 21st century. martha: strong words from mark kirk. joined now by john bolton, former u.s. ambassador to theup, also a fox news contributor. good morning, ambassador. >> good morning.

glad to be here. martha: good to have you with us. obviously, we have this new iaea report that makes it look like iran's a lot closer to a nuclear weapon than anybody thought. this could very well land in the lap of this president in a second term or perhaps a new president if that's the way this goes. what do you think is being done in terms of sanctions, is that enough, will that do anything to change the course of this? >> i don't think the new sanctions really will have that much impact. you know, trying to squeeze the banking system of iran is a very good thing, and i wish we could do more of it to bring the regime down. but to be effective sanctions have to be harsh, punishing, they have to be rigorously enforced, and there can't be any loopholes. unfortunately, iran has plenty of places it can go; russia, china, venezuela, to get access to their finance systems and obtain the resources that they need. so cranking up the u.s. sanctions is not going to slow down the iranian nuclear peps program. martha: because, obviously, in

this central bank in iran it's unlikely, is it not, that if we sort of try to tighten the noose around this central bank in iran, china, russia and as you say, india, other countries really won't do it. >> china and russia have already made it clear they are not going to support additional sanctions in the security council, so given, for example, china's need for iranian oil and natural gas, there's a natural connection. the chinese want to let them have access to their financial system as well. that's why, frankly, the entire focus on sanctions -- even stricter sanctions -- is a mistake. it's not going to stop iran from achieving its long-sought objective of getting deliverable nuclear weapons. martha: you know, we've heard this right out front and center in the presidential process so far. you heard mitt romney say, basically, if i'm president romney, there will be no possibility that iran can have a nuclear weapon. he says the president isn't doing enough to stop it. how soon do you think this issue

becomes issue number one in terms of national security if it's not already? >> well, it should have been issue number one a long time ago. i think it may not wait until the next president's sworn in. you know, there's a lot about iran's program we don't know, and once they cross the line and become a nuclear power, it's very, very different in terms of even a military option. so that's why i think now the spotlight's really on israel. they don't have time to calibrate carefully what iran is up to, and they can't afford to make a mistake. so i think the crisis could well be on us before the next u.s. election. martha: and so you see israel taking a unilateral action to blast them of these nuclear facilities and try to set them back in the timeline? >> well, i don't know what the israeli decision will be, but certainly the precedent is there. the israelis have not waited for their adversaries to get a nuclear capability. they bomb inside september '07 syria, they attacked iraq back in 1981, so they've done it

before. martha: all right. ambassador bolton, always good to get your insight. we'll be watching this one, to be sure. thank you, sir. >> thank you. bill: some breaking news right now, this out of philadelphia as it relates to the ongoing matter at penn state university. the trustees of the school have just announced that the former fbi director, louie free, will head up this investigative panel to examine the sex abuse scandal that has gripped this university. this follows the ncaa announcement that it, too, will conduct an investigation. free's got a lot of experience in this stuff, and we'll see how long it takes for him to get the conclusions or answers in a story that has shaken the country, not to mention that school, that campus for a very, very long time. martha: that's certainly a bold move, putting a man like that in charge of it. so let's hope he can get to the bottom of it. the republican candidates vowing to repeal the president's

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martha: all right, about 22 after the hour. let's get you some headlines. seattle mariners' outfield greg hullman stabbed to death, police arresting his brother in this incident. sad story. greg hullman was 24 years old. and a statue honoring the late president ronald reagan unveil inside poland. former polish president doing the honors, saying that poland and europe would not be what they are today without ronald reagan's influence. >> i've said time and again, obamacare is bad news. it's unconstitutional, it cost way too much money, a trillion dollar, and if i'm president of the united states, i will repeal it for the american people. bill: the republican candidates, that's mitt romney, saying they will dump the health care overhaul if they take office. the supreme court, though, will take up this matter, we know,

and that brings us to bya, because you asked. kk lee writes: if supreme court says obamacare is legal, can it still be overturned by a new president? one wonders. the director for the american center of law and justice, how you doing? good morning to you. >> hey, bill. bill: here is a bit of a riddle. so the supreme court says, okay, it's legal, it stays. mitt romney, perhaps, is your president. what powers does he have at that point, if any? >> sure. well, as president, he can grant waivers to the states. one problem is right now those waivers don't go in effect until 2017, so i think governor romney would try to get congress to change that law, and there may be democrat support for that to move the waiver date up. there's a lot of broad statutory interpretation power the federal government has to interpret what a waiver could be, what's comparable health care. so that's part one. you issue those waivers -- bill: let me pause you right

there. so the president can sign a waiver. does that need congressional approval at all? >> that would not need congressional approval. president obama's done it to labor unions, over a thousand companies have already gotten it. bill: what could romney waive then under the law? >> all of the state exchange requirements, they wouldn't have o set up -- to set up an exchange, and then the next day the senate with 51 votes, bill, could do a reconciliation bill that guts all federal subsidies from obamacare. what does that mean? none of the money that would go to medicaid, none of the money that would go to the states would be there, so there'd be an impetus in the first two days of your office -- because the law goes into effect, remember, 2014. you take the oath in january of 2013, you have a full year, basically. because now democrats are in a tough spot. even though they don't like what you've done, you've basically destroyed this. you've got a year -- bill: let me pause you again. if waivers are granted, doesn't the law fall apart anyway?

>> not completely. bill: why not? >> for instance, the insurance companies would still have to follow the regulations. so they would have to still give health insurance to people without, you know, the pre-existing conditions, all that language. they've done that before in some states, and if you do that without reforming other parts of the system, you could crash the health care system. so they're not going to like this idea. but here's what we've got, people discounted this when governor romney first said it, and then they realize, wait, you can gut the entire law, and it puts democrats' backs against the wall because they may say, oh, we're not going to repeal it. bill: i gotcha. so you're saying you could deconstruct the law. it is tricky, it's complicated, but it's possible even if supreme court says the law holds up. >> sure. the supreme court doesn't decide what's good policy, they just say if something's constitutional or not. so you get in there day one and day two as president of the united states, you can start tearing this apart and then the senate and congress really, the whole congress, has got to come in and compromise. and i think that's a perfect

position to put a senate in that you may not have a republican majority if you're a new republican president. hopefully, the supreme court strikes this unconstitutional -- bill: we'll see on that, that's right. all these theories are very interesting to see the future of this program. >> exactly. bill: and you saw how compromise worked so well with that supercommittee. thank you, jordan, good to have you in. >> thanks, bill. bill: to our viewers,@bill hemmer, fire away. bya. we can find ousts in a -- ourselves in a scenario where you saw the deconstruction of the law, but it holds up. and you and i are going to be sitting here that day. martha: i know. either way, it is going to be monumental. we'll be sitting here right in "america's newsroom." in the meantime, a man unleashing his fury at a car dealership. check this out. we're going to tell you what got him so fired up, bill. bill: i hate those tires. and the moderator who questioned

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bill: got a fox news alert, there's a bloodbath in the streets of cairo as demonstrators clash we egypt's military yet again. watch here. for the third day now, we've seen violent protests and the death toll soaring to at least 24. some estimates say it's as high as 40. thousands filling tahrir square, the birthplace of the revolt that ousted egypt's president back in february. civilians want the military to hand over control of the country's armed forces, generals insisting on waiting until a new president is elected next year only days ahead of egypt's first parliamentary elections since mubarak was overthrown. martha: brand new developments in the phone hacking investigation out of london. amy kellogg joins us live with more on this. good morning. >> reporter: hi, martha. it's a judge-led inquiry, it's called the leveson inquiry, and

it is looking into culture, practice, ethics of the press here in the united kingdom broadly speaking, but also in the relation to the now-defunct "news of the world." we're hearing from celebrities who are talking about how intrusion of the press has impacted their lives, again, as it relates to the phone hacking scandal, but also breaches of privacy by the press in a more general sense. now, we also have heard from real people today including the parents of the murdered schoolgirl, milly dowler. they're a part of the hearing. a detective hired by "news of the world" hacked into milly dowler's voicemail when she was missing and deleted messages on that voicemail freeing up space for fresh messages which would be fresh leads in the case, and that gave her parents false hope that she was still alive. here's what they had to say about it today. >> i rang her phone -- >> yes. >> and it clicked through onto her voicemail, so i heard her voice. >> yes. >> and i was, it was just like -- she picked up her

voicemail, she's alive. and i just, it was then really, um, when we were told about the hacking, that was the first thing i thought. >> reporter: then actor hugh grant described his experiences with press intrusion, lashing out at outfits other than the "news of the world." grant suspects the tabloid mail hacked his voicemails. he said the media hype when he was arrested back in the '90s in los angeles with a prostitute was fair game, but the intense stalking of the mother of his newborn baby and other breaches of his privacy he said has been unacceptable. now, the result, martha, of thisinquiry will likely be recommendations given to the government about how the press could change its practices. later in the week we'll hear from the author, j.k. rowling, as well as other celebrities. that's the latest from london. martha: a lot of celebrities

involved. amy kellogg, thank you very much. bill: faith and fiery rhetoric, rather, on the campaign trail, all but two of the republican candidates for the white house attending a religious forum hosted by christian conservatives in iowa. mitt romney and john huntsman both skipping that event where some of the white house hopefuls got a bit teary-eyed talking about their perm beliefs. >> i will never forget before my wife and i were about to get in the car, i said, i can do this. she said, we -- >> amen. [applause] >> i decided that the best thing i could do was to treat her differently and not love her like i did because it wouldn't hurt as much if i lost her.

bill: rick santorum reacting to the news when he heard his daughter had an illness that could be life threaten, and herman cain talking about the day he was diagnosed with stage four cancer. my guest is the author of "win: principles that take your business from ordinary to extraordinary." pollster frank luntz was the moderator of the forum. good morning to you. must have been a big honor for you in iowa over the weekend, so thank you for your time here. we are going to look at how voters react to certain questions and specifically the answers. there's a green line that shows moderates, there's a red line for republicans. first up is herman cain. what did you ask him? >> this forum was very different, and it was an awesome responsibility to try to bring out the morals, the values in these candidates and get them to talk about things that they had never addressed on the campaign trail. for herman cain, the question was those words, "so help me

god," which he hopes to deliver 14 months from now. let's take a look at how herman cain responded to that question, what do the words "so help me god" mean to him. >> stage hopes to be able to take the oath of office 14 months from now and at the end of that oath are the words "so help me god." when you share those four words, if you have the opportunity and the privilege to say them, what will come to mind? >> it's really two things. "so help me god" means that i am ultimately responsible to god almighty. and secondly, it is an expression, in my view, of asking for god to help me in such an important job. >> that's the key phrase, asking god, seeking god's help. now, it may sound too religious to some people, but to our audience they responded so

favorably because they realize that no one person can do it alone. bill: because the audience was republicans and conservatives who will be deciding who wins the caucus in the first part of january. >> a response by the family leader, there were other 2500 people in that audience. it was packed. bill: wow. >> that was one of the most powerful -- bill: there was another question. you talked to newt gingrich, and he took you from a question, i believe, to occupy wall street. now, how did that happen? >> well, he's always the star of these debates. he either comes in first or second in every one, and this one was one of his key moments when he just, basically, smacks the moderator around, and the audience loved it. let's take a look. >> what is your world view, and speak of it in terms of freedom, responsibility and morality. >> if you don't work, you won't eat. there's a deep sense of responsibility -- [applause] now, let me, let me now take that and for a brief moment describe occupy wall street.

all the occupy movement starts with the premise that we all owe them everything. now, that is a pretty good symptom of how much the left has collapsed as a moral system in this country and why you need to reassert something as simple as saying to them go get a job right after you take a bath. [applause] >> now, i made a mistake there which is in this debate i was nodding my head too much. and a senior producer from abc news actually called me afterward. our job as moderators is not to pick a fight, and it's not to try to cause them to go at each other, it's to try to get at the real truth, and that was my goal in these sessions. and i think that perhaps i did nod too much -- bill: well, sometimes when you nod your head, it shows the interview wee that you're in agreement with them which could cause someone to be encouraged -- >> right. and that i should not have done. but i also had an audience of 2500 people, and my job was to connect to them and that segment

of the population. bill: that's a fair point. i just want to make this point, the moderates and the conservatives moved along the same line in both of the clips you just showed us. how do viewers or voters react to the emotion that you saw? >> they want to see it. bill: do they? does the tears and the stories, they're okay with that? >> it's not just what's in your head, it's also what's in your heart, it's what's in your soul. and these debates up until now have argued over specific policy points, and they haven't sufficiently raised who they are, what they believe and so viewers thought this was truly innovative. they got a chance to see a different perspective. bill: that we did. congratulations, frank, well done. >> thank you. bill: good to see you. martha? martha: speaking of the road to the white house, the most important path on the way there could be a 132-mile stretch of pavement that goes through one state. we'll tell you why. bill: also, reliving old memories and not good ones.

police reopen an investigation into the death of natalie wood. >> she was a beautiful woman even in death. hanging deeper down, head was down, hair was all other. all over. but she was still a beautiful gal. bill: that was the man who found her body in the waters off california. thirty years later a witness is now coming forward with new details about that fateful night. what a nearby woman heard in a stunning admission from the sheriff in l.a. county.

bill: a bizarre act of violence at a dealership in california. watch this. a suspect has been identified as earth ward roth -- edward roth, vandalizing several cars, picking up a large object to smash the windows of 14 others. must have gotten a raw deal, i guess, huh? martha: i guess so. bill: the initial costs of the vandalism is 50 grand. police say the motives are not

clear, adding that he's never even bought a car or had any service or body work done at that location. martha: really? sometimes it's good the count to ten. [laughter] that's the lesson there. how about this story over the weekend? she says that police would not listen to her story 30 years ago when she tried to explain what she heard the night of that hollywood star natalie wood tied. now with the reopening of this case, this woman who's becoming a very central part of this whole story is going to get her chance to speak out, giving this statement to the police. this is what it's all based on. she says a woman's voice crying for help from drowning awakened john and me, this is her boyfriend who was with her on another boat at the time, he awakened me. help me, someone, please, help me. i'm drowning. they heard that repeatedly, and then the woman says she went to the deck to look toward the sound, but it was dark and damp, and she couldn't really see anything out there. this is bizarre, right? added to all this mystery around

natalie wood's death. joined by rod wheeler, former d.c. homicide detective and a fox news contributor, he has handled many homicides, and he want to get his thoughts. good morning. >> good morning, martha. martha: you know, i remember as a kid at the time thinking this whole thing didn't add up. it sounded very strange. how does a woman sort of slip off a boat, she was trying to get into a dinghy in the middle of the night because they had an argument, and she was going to, i guess, row away from the boat and take some time for herself. the whole thing sounded weird. >> right. actually, i do remember this case as well back in 1981. now, it's important to understand, martha, this case was originally classified as an accidental death. and now the police have decided to take another look at this case based on this new information that they have. but there's a lot of questions, martha. i must caution you about this woman's statement. now, real quickly, this woman indicated that back in 1981 when she heard supposedly natalie wood screaming for help, her and

her husband supposedly called the harbor patrol. there was no answer on the telephone. then they said they called the avalon police department which is about 12 miles away, they said they were going to send a helicopter, the helicopter never came. now, that information can be somewhat verified, and i think that's what the police are going to do now. they're doing the prudent thing, martha, by looking at this case, but i wouldn't jump to conclusions quite yet into thinking that, you know, robert wagner had something to do with this. martha: what about the captain who's coming forward? because the people on the boat were christopher walken, famous actor, who was making a movie with her, and there was some suggestion that the argument that was between her and robert wagner and natalie wood might have hinged on some of that. his attorneys have advised him not to speak out about this whole thing. there's also a report about a man who says he heard robert wagner also talking at the same time while this woman, natalie wood, was drowning, and she was talking from the water. i don't know if we're ever going

to get to the bottom of this. >> you know, we may never get to the bottom of this. the other thing that's important to understand, martha, typically, when a police department reopens a case that long ago, you're going to look for dna evidence, you're going to look for hard core forensic evidence. rarely do we change or reclassify a case based on new testimony, based on new, you know, information that we received. but again, i think the police department are doing their due diligence with all of these individuals. they're going to go back from the very beginning, reinterview everybody that's still alive, see if their stories are consistent and then make a determination at that time whether or not they're going to reclassify the case. martha: what do you think, rod? based on what you know and on the account of this woman who said she heard natalie wood in the water calling out for help, do you give this story any credence? and did you think this was suspicious, that there's more to this than we know? >> you know, i do. and i think that's ooh an excellent question. i do think there's a lot more to this story. there's one piece of evidence,

though, that this woman mentioned that kind of makes me wonder about her story. real quickly what that is, this woman who just recently came forward, martha, said that she received a note that said to her to keep quiet and not to report to anybody what she supposedly heard. now, if that's the case, why didn't she come forward to the police years and years ago? that makes me wonder about her credibility. but again, as investigators we still have to do our due diligence and look at everything. martha: yeah. well, natalie woods' body was, according to reports, bruised in 20 places. >> we can look at -- martha: you know, the oars were not touched, so there's a lot of stuff here. i have a feeling we're going to talk about this again. bill: why 30 years later do you come forward with this? all right, jon scott's coming up next with "happening now." good morning to you. jon: good morning to you, bill. that terror plot stopped in its tracks by the nypd, say

investigators, we have details. also, the supercommittee not looking so super today. that bipartisan group was supposed to soft some of our debt sr. solve some of our debt issues, it's one of the reasons markets are tanking today. jenna lee is live on that story from washington today. also, major league baseball player murdered. the manhunt for a suspect that police are calling dangerous, the twist here; they released this guy on what they're calling a clerical error. those stories and much more ahead "happening now." bill: all right, jon, we'll see you in ten minutes. fox news alert right now, get you down to wall street in the lower manhattan, a major selloff. we're picking up steam as we move throughout the morning, off about 268 now for the dow 30. the supercommittee's worked into this right now, pressures from europe because there's a big selloff in europe as well. so putting all that io the mix for a bad monday so far. martha: where was that good story you said we were going to have? is it coming still? should we stick around?

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martha: we promised you one good story today on an otherwise dreary monday. actress mila kunis made good on her promise to go to the marine corps ball. scott moore was stationed in afghanistan when he made a youtube video asking her to be his date for the big night. he is telling us what it was like to take a movie star to the ball. >> i was ecstatic when i first found out. it was good news from afghanistan. the day went well. i'm a happy guy. >> you realized you started