thanks for being with us and a big thank you to frank and all the voters who were brave enough to lay it all out on the >> i think it is unpatriotic because it undermines our liberty. i am concerned as everyone about the terrorist attack. timothy mcveigh was a terrorist. terrorism is on the books, he's a criminal, it's a crime. we should deal with it. >> if there are areas of the patriot act that we need to refine, i'm all for that. but i do not believe we ought to throw out the baby with the bath

water for the following reason. the terrorists have one objective that some people don't seem to get. they want to kill all of us, so we should use every means possible to kill them 1st or identify them first. >> i would continue the aid. but i think the obama policy of keeping your fingers crossed is not working in pakistan. i also think that pakistan is a nation that is kind of like too nuclear to fail. so we have to make sure that we take that threat very seriously. >> sanctions on the iranian central bank now -- is that a good idea or a bad idea? >> it's a good idea -- i think replacing the regime before they get a nuclear weapon without a war beats replacing the regime with a war, which beats allowing them to have a nuclear weapon. >> we have a president who said we are going to be friendly to our foes and disreectful to our friends. the right course in america is to stand up to iran with crippling sanctions, indict

ahmadinejad for violating the geneva -- the genocide convention. put in place the crippling sanks that stop their economy. i know it's going to make gasoline more expensive. there is no price worth an iranian nuclear weapon. >> as it relates to defense spending, let's be realistic. we can't have an intellectually honest conversation with sacred cows. the defense department has to be on the table, for heaven's sake. >> you propose legislation to criminalize the tsa pat-downs under circumstances. explain what you have in mind. >> here's what i would do with the tsa, i would privatize it and get rid of the unions. >> i did not say we would make 11 million people illegal. i suggest if you go back to your district and you find people who have been here 25 years and have two generations of family and have been paying taxes and and are in a local church, you are going to have a hard time explaining why that particular

subset is being broken up and forted to leave, given the fact that they have been law-abiding citizens for 25 years. >> amnesty is a magnet. when we have had in the past, programs that have said that people who come here legally get to stay here legally, that will encourage more people to come illegally. >> the party that says it's the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy that destroys families that have been here a quarter century. i am prepared to take the heat for saying let's be humane in enforcing the law without giving them citizenship, but finding a way to create legality so they are not separated from their families. >> the candidates debating tonight in washington, d.c., just blocks from the finish line of this race, the white house. so did anybody tonight move a step closer to securing the g.o.p. nomination? that becomes the central question here. brit hume is here. good evening. good to have you here.

>> hi, market amount of hi. how do you think everybody did? >> my sense was that for the first hour and a quarter, it was the ron paul debate. he was the central figure. i can understand the temptation of a moderator like wolf blitzer bringing him in a lot because the rest of the candidates so affirmatively disagree with him so you can get a debate going that way, but i think it did take away from the candidates who -- time away from the candidates more likely to win the nomination. i thought if newt gingrich is the man with the momentum at the moment in the race, this was a night where he was going to run into trouble or see his momentum break, i don't think that happened. i think he had the nod of performance. he was very fluid. he might in that exchange you just showed got himself into trouble for allowing some people who came here illegally to stay here, but beyond that, it seems that newt gingrich had a pretty good night. and his momentum, at least as far as the debate is concerned will continue.

>> that's the moment i would like to start with you on. he used the word humane, in terms of the way we should allow people to stay in this country if they have been the example he gave, if you have been here 25 years, if you belong to a church, how are we, the party of family values, in his words, going to separate these people from this country in and it harkened back to rick perry in a fox debate early on, where he said people who would push them away, send them away, had no heart. you got a lot of heat for that. >> he did. of course, newt gingrich did not say anything like that. about the immigration hawks tonight. he talked about being humane to what would presumably be a small subset of people who came here illegally who have been here quite a long time, with ties to communities, contributing members of society and belong to churches and who have families. that was, it seems to me, that might limit any damage that

would be done to him by an argument that might have sounded to some like an argument near a certain kind of amnesty. >> one of the them, jon huntsman, whose argument in recent weeks for staying in this race where he is very low in the polls, is that he will be a surprise performer in new hampshire. clearly, this was in his bailiwick. and it seemed that he was trying to flex the muscle of that several times, in terms of showing the depth of am he has in pakistan and china. how do you think he did? >> i think -- well, he had a lot to say. he can't complain he didn't get his ups tonight. his positions are out of the mainstream for a lot of republicans. i am not sure that jon huntsman's views are synchronnist with the republican base who allow him to advance very much. he has been remarkable. he's a very attractive guy with a great record. he's a handsome guy. he talks well and so on. he's 1% in national polls and he

has been that way for a long time. i am not sure that there is not something that people see in his manner that they don't like and he turns them off. on paper, he did reasonably well tonight, he got his -- as i say, he got his turns and he had plenty to say. he disagreed on some of the issues. his positions may be more to the left. i am not sure he broke out tonight. >> yeah. talking about herman cain, who certainly has had his foreign policy issues over the last several weeks, not to mention some perjury issues as well. i am looking at the politics average, hanging in there, very impressively, given the problems he has had. 19%, right behind newt gingrich in the real clear average, in iowa. but tonight, what did you think of his answers in terps of their substance on foreign policy? >> the sense you have with herman cain, he didn't make any gaffs, the one mistake was referring to wolf blitzer as blitz, but he corrected himself on that. it was a good-natured moment.

i don't think it probably did himn any harm. what i thought about herman cain tonight and you sense with herman cain on foreign policy, he seems to get quickly toward the outer limit of what he knows and then he tends to repeat himself. he is not deeply knowledgeable. and it shows and in the end, you are the commander in chief and you are responsible for, you know, national defense, national security, which is the area in which the president has the most flexibility and the most power and the one area that the federal government has sole authority over. it is not unimportant. >> yeah. but doesn't that run its course? and i felt that and sense that the as lhe gets to the outer limits of his understanding of these things, don't we expect that's what this process is, as you move through the process, the answers do become more nuanced and sophisticated and have more depth. >> that's newt gingrich's great advantage. he has been dealing with these issues a quarter century and more. he's been the speaker of the house. he has thought a lot about these

issues. he has a lot of ideas. you heard him flex them out and places to go to look for ideas that he had already read. he's impressive in this kind of setting. if newt gingrich is to get into trouble, it won't be the troub that herman cain got into, exactly with bad debate answers or rick perry got into, though rick perry did pretty well tonight. it's likely to be the former speaker's strong suit, he talks very well. >> it's interesting that the person who is seen as the frontrunner with a challenge by newt gingrich. mitt romney is the one we come to next, after talking about the other who is seem to be in some ways, more animated and characters on the stage. but how did mitt romney do? >> mitt romney did fine. he always seems to do fine. he knows a lot about the issues and has studied up on areas where he has limited experience. i thought he held up fairly well. he got into a little exchange

there with -- at one point with his fellow mormon, jon huntsman. seems to me, he came out of that fairly well. i think that mitt romney did fine. but i am not sure this is a moment where you say, this was the night when mitt romney moved off his 25% in the polls and began to shoot upward among the republican faithful. i don't think that moment has come although i think he did fine. >> we have watched so many players come and go and emerge and submerge, to some extent. how do you coo see the landscape heading into iowa? until people start voting, this is what we have to go on, the debates and the interchanges. >> and the polls. of course, you know, the thing that the polls can't measure, martha, is intensity of feeling. intensity of feeling begins to come into play when people start to vote. it's what motivates people to get to the polls and it helps to have one thing that mitt romney has, a big organization. he has a well-funded, professional operation and although he is not showing up in

iowa, he is trying to keep expectations in iowa to a minimum, hing would like to make a strong showing and give him momentum into a must win for him, the state of new hampshire. look, the thing we have to be humble, we see polls and make acesments and we are as smart as we know how to be, when people start voting, things can change in a big hurry. my guess is that after iowa and new hampshire, the field will be smaller because you need -- candidates leave the race when is they run out of money, the debates have kept them afloat, you don't need money to show up at a debate. things will look very different in 6 weeks or 2 months from now. >> i was watching frank luntz and his focus group. he was speaking with the g.o.p. voters and they were getting ready to watch the debate, along with him. basically, the thing they kept honing in on is that they wanted somebody who they felt could beat president obam a. that's the elephant in the room, so to

speak, when you look at the process, you know, that's the big question. >> it does, but it's interesting when you poll that question, you know, as that -- ask that question to voters who is the most electable? mitt romney does about best of all in that regard. he doesn't do as well on some other questions. i -- when you hear this from republicans a lot eye basically think that the republican voters basically fall into two camps, those who think that the president is so vulnerable that he is almost certain to lose and they could nominate -- not almost anybody, but a very conservative nominee and still win the election and therefore, they ought to do that because they are mostly conservatives. then there is a category of voters who believe that getting barack obama out of the white house is such an important priority that everything else pail -- pales in comparison and no candidate who seems an extremist and that constitutes

the case for mitt romney. >> all right. very interesting. brit, thank you. good to talk to you. >> thank you. >> brit hume from washington. >> so the showdown was over foreign policy. and jon huntsman has served on the front lines as an ambassador in that capacity, what could be the nation's biggest foreign policy challenge and that's china. governor huntsman, fresh off the debate has come outside. we appreciate that. good to have with you us, governor. welcome. good evening to you. >> hi, martha. great to be with you. thanks for having me. >> thank you for being here. how do you think you did? >> i think we did great. you have a foreign policy debate that you can hardly consider to be complete if you don't cover things like europe and china. but there was a lot that was covered tonight. the one point i wanted to make that i think is driving everything we ought to be thinking about as it relates to foreign policy, and i have lived overseas four times, i have beenan ambassador three times.

but the best foreign policy for us is to get our house in order at home. we have debt that is 70% of our gdp. we have -- we have a president who has been absolutely ineffective in leading, to a position of greater job creation and a stronger comesm we have a trust deficit as well as an economic deficit, where people have no trust left as it relates to congress as an institution. we need term limits in congress, we need to do something about the revolving door. we have no trust left in the executive branch. no trust left toward wall street with banks that are too big to fail. so i would argue that in order to have an effective foreign policy, we have a lot of work on the home front. >> i think most people listening to what you have to say about that would probably agree with you. we certainly have seen this deficit committee, the center committee fall apart and i don't think that has done a lot to build confidence in the process

among people today. i know you have put -- staked a lot on new hampshire. and you have hoped that new hampshire will be sort of the state that turn this is around for you. i was talking to brit hume about this. everybody agrees that until people start voting, we won't get to the next stage of this process. i am looking at the politics average poll right now for new hampshire. and you are at 8% there, which would put you in about fourth or fifth place in new hampshire right now. do you see anything on the ground that makes that number not seem realistic to you? >> well, martha, that's better than last place, where we starred. i have earned a margin of error candidate. we climbed up to where we are 8, 9, 10% and moving up quickly. i can feel it on the ground. we were in man chester last night, doing our 103rd public event. we are doing town hall meetings and house parties and club visits. kifeel a connection with the people because we are talking about the issues that matter

most, fixing this economy, creating jobs and addressing the trust deficit that is very real in this country. for a country like ours, it's a very precarious place for us to be, when people no longer believe in the institutions of power. i think that new hampshire will be just fine for us. people don't coalesce around a candidate until a week to 10 days out. so we have a lot of time left. this is the pre-season. and getting to new hampshire, we have to shake hands, 15 times with every voter in the state before they give imu consideration at all. we are probably on handshake number 8 with most of them. and it's a state i love, it's a state that we are working very effectively and our message is resonating, most importantly. >> when you look at your resume and the qualifications and the people who are up there with you, based on what people think of traditional qualifications -- governor of utah, the ambassador to china and all the experiences

that you have had, what is it like for to you stand up there -- what was your reaction to listen to the foreign policy answers from, for example, herman cain? or from ron paul? what goes through your mind as you listen to their ability to answer the questions? >> this is -- this is a system driven by the people. i have lived for the last couple of years in china, where the citizens don't get such a luxury. but in it country, we get citizens and candidate who is step out of whatever corner of society and decide they love their country enough to be a candidate for the presidency of the united states. they have different backgrounds and experiences, different world views. it makes us the nation that we are. we are the nation that exudes the values of freedom, liberty and open market it's. >> i hear you, governor. but do you think, when you listen to, for instance, herman cain a answer on the no-fly zone in syria or rick perry's answer -- he thinks we should have a no-fly zone in sirria.

you didn't have a chance to go right at them on that? what would you say to that? >> well, syria is a critically penitentiary issue because have you israel on one side, that is a core american interest and nuclearization in iran, syria is a subsidiary of iran. you would expect that people have different ideas on how to handle syria. that's why this process is so important and why these debates are very, very important. candidates have to prep and learn the issues and mingle with the people and listen to their concerns on the issues and that's what makes us the greatest democracy that ever was. even if you get a diverse cross section of people with different attitudes and temperaments and background and knowledge level, i love this system. it is the finest in the world. now we have home building to do here, in terms of strengthening our levels of trust toward our institutions of power and get our economy back on track. the president has failed us fundamentally and everybody's tuned out. they don't care what he says on

jobs. they are looking forward to the 2012 election cycle. stay tuned in new hampshire. >> good to talk to you. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, congresswoman michele bachmann and mr. herman cain will be here to go "on the record." our national security is the topic of the evening. you will hear directly from the candidates. they are fresh off the debate, coming up next. also, is the u.s. putting our own troops in danger? the battle is on to stop billions in automatic cuts to our defense. can the ax be kept from falling in that situation? we have colonel oliver north here to discuss that. and is it government gone wild? scuffles, screams and even tear gas. is it here? no, no, where in the world is it? when we come back. tulations. congratulations. congralations. today, the city of charlotte can use verizon technology

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>> representative michele bachman looking for a boost in the polls tonight after the big debate. she's also hoping to recharge her campaign with her new book. it is called "core of eviction-my story." congresswoman bachman joins me now. good to have you here, congresswoman. >> good to be with you, martha. good to see you too. >> how did it go tonight? what did you think about the

debate? >> i thought it was great. i love this subject, deal with national security. it hasn't gotten talked a lot about in the debates. this is the second debate we've had focused on national security and this is something that america needs to deal with because we are probably at our most volatile levels we've been in the past 40 years. so i'm very glad we could talk about it. my background is in the intelligence committee dealing with the nation's national security and classified secrets. i'm the only one of all of the candidates who is currently engaged in foreign affairs sitting on the intelligence committee, and i'm grateful that we could talk about this important subject tonight. >> i thought one of the strongest moments for you tonight was when you were talking about china. and you said, you know, we aren't just accepting money there, we are sending power there. and you made a very interesting point about what all that means. just share a little bit of that with us tonight. >> well, as many of your viewers know, we are in debt up to our ears to china, well over $1 trillion we owe to them.

that means we are making substantial interest payments to china. when we send our hard-earned money to china, that's our tax money. what that means is we have less money for our military, and we just saw this year, because of the failure of the super committee, $1 trillion less will be available for national defense. when we cut back on national defense $1 trillion, we are, in effect, sending money over to china in the form of interest. when we send the money over to them, they are able to build their military up. so the greater our debt, the mess money on our military, our military goes down. and the more money for china, their military goes up. so we actually have the united states taxpayers paying for china as you new fighter jets, aircraft carriers, and this is not good for the security of the american people. >> we all know now that the super committee has failed, this

will go into effect in 2013 and that will put a big bite out of our defense budget. what did you think about what newt gingrich had to say that's correct he would be open to cutting defense because he thinks it's reprehensible, that's my word, to sum up what he said, that it takes 15, 20 years to come up with some of these weapons and the whole process of building them. and he thinks it's a wasteful process in some ways. do you think it's a wasteful process? >> well, i think that we are now engaged in four wars. president obama has put us in two additional wars. there's know his store cal precedent for cutting back on resource force the brave men and women fighting on the feel. so never before in the history of our country have we pulled back on resources. this isn't the time to do that. that's not saying that the defense budget can't do things better, they can, and i will give you one example. we pay for hardware for our military on a cost-plus fee basis. what that means is the longer

the delays in producing these items, the more money we pay these producers. that is not right. what we need to do is have a fixed price basis, and we just say we will give you x amount of money for that weapons system and no more. that's something we could do to reduce costs in the military. we can be efficient but we can't possibly cut back on our brave men and women. that would be wrong to do that. to carry out their assigned duty with not enough resources from the taxpayer. >> you know, i know every candidate goes into the debate hoping it will give them a boost in the polls out of it. looking at your poll numbers now according to the real clear polls average in iowa for you, which is a hopeful to you, you are at 6.8%. was your realistic opinion where you could finish in iowa at this point? >> realistically i believe we will finish number one.

afterwall, no one believes i could win the iowa straw poll at the last minute but we have done something remarkable. we've identified more supporters for me in iowa than mike huckabee had when he won the all-important iowa caucus. our function is to get our supporters out to the poll and we are continuing to add more supporters all the time. we are adding supporters who are democrats, republicans and people who have never been political before. i'm a unified candidate in this state and i think a lot of people will be shocked. >> are you surprised given all the time and effort you put in iowa, that newt gingrich, who was behind you for a long time in iowa, is now at 20.8% in that average poll? >> if you look at the course of this election, we've seen one candidate of a another go up and go down and go up and go down. and if you look at the polling data, martha, even more deeply, it says about 70% of the electorate aren't decided. most poem won't make their final

choice until the final week of the january 3rd caucus. i think people will come home in iowa. i this think they will come home to the candidate that they gave their number one support to, and that was me. i'm looking forward to making that case in iowa. i'm campaigning there very hard but we are not just focused on iowa. we are looking at all of the states and being the republican nominee. i can't wait to debate barack obama. he needs to be defeated. i'm the best and most qualified candidate to take him on and that's what i intend to do. i think we need to have a mom in the white house and i can do this job. >> you are certainly a mom who can work very hard, i confess to that. like all of these folks you guys are out there with very, very long days and doing a great job of it all. thank you very much. it's good to see you tonight. michele bachman, congresswoman. thank you. >> always a pleasure, martha. thank you. >> coming up, another hardworking man who has been really trying to raise his own position in the polls, herman cain is the next up tonight. we will talk to him after he is

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>> gop candidate herman cain trying to change his image tonight to some extent, at least when it comes to national security issues. he's recently had to fend off criticism about his command of for yen policy. so how did he do tonight?

mr. herman cain joins us. good evening, sir. good to see you again. welcome. >> hello, martha. delighted to be with you. thanks. >> how did you feel it went tonight? recently you said, look, i'm not going to dazzle you with my foreign policy knowledge and i don't need to know everything about this subject; what you have said. >> right. >> so how did you feel did you this evening? >> i believe that i did fairly well. and whenever i finish a debate, i get an honest assessment from my staff. their assessment agreed with mine because over the last several months, martha, i have been doing a lot of homework. i have had some consultants and advisory with four people who were assistant department of defense secretaries, i met with two former ambassadors. i have talked and been briefed by three or four generals. i have a much better knowledge base in terms of shaping my perspective now than i had, say, two months ago. it's a work in process but i felt real good about tonight. >> it's interesting, looking

across the polls, and i have been doing this with all the candidates i have spoken with tonight, in new hampshire you are at 8.5%. in iowa you are at 19%, have held on to a pretty decent position in iowa. in south carolina you have held on to your lead there. so i'm imagining that you are hoping that two candidates will split iowa and new hampshire and if you come up with south carolina you will be in a pretty good spot? >> exactly. and we happen to believe that we are going to hold on to the lead, the number that we have in iowa. in fact, we believe that we can build upon it. as you know, governor romney has such a big lead in new hampshire, we are going to work hard to make sure kind of close that gap. but in iowa, south carolina and florida, we are very optimistic. like you said, those must be show that my support base is holding. >> let's get back to domestic issues and the numbers. we all watched what happened in the super committee, it fell

apart, so that leaves us with sort of no recourse for the time being in terms of any retax reform or cuts in the budget or resolution in terms of the economy. and the president was out speaking about this today. and he wants to get part of his jobs bill measure passed that he believes will be beneficial to getting some money back in people's pockets. here's just a piece of what he had to say. if you listen to this, i want to get your response. >> if congress refuses to act, the middle class families are going to get hit with a tax increase at the worse possible time. for the average family your taxes will go up one thousand dollars if congress does not act by the end of the month. now we can't let that happen. not right now. >> so what do you think about the way he's attacking this problem? >> martha, it is disappointing that the president is being disingenuous, quite frankly, with the american people. what he's not talking about is

that if they don't pass something to extend the current tax rates, that they keep calling the bush tax cuts, everybody is going to be hit with a tax increase. secondly, the piece that he's talking about is relative to the payroll tax. a lot of people didn't even feel it the last time they did it. this is another example of nibbling around the edges. this economy is on life support. and rather than deal with a serious solution about how we get everybody's income up, because the economy is growing and because 14 million people will get back to work, he is playing class warfare talking about if congress doesn't act, what it will do to the middle class family. it is the same old tax issue. >> i'm curious, let's fast forward for a moment as every candidate in your shoes would like to do at this point and let's assume you are running against president obama. what would you say to him , but he's gotten a lot of criticism with the super committee for not getting more involved. what would you like to say to him if you were on the stage

with him tonight but how he has handled this issue, the super committee issue. >> let's back up a little bit. first of all, i wouldn't have had a super committee. we have 222 committees in congress right now. here is what i would have done. i would have gotten the leaders of both houses of congress together, both the majority and the minority consideration and sit down and then using the leadership -- that's what leadership is supposed to be about. and as president i would have gotten the leaders from both parties in both rooms in a room without all the advisors and say, look, we've got to do something. secondly, i would have put a plan on the table. >> but hold on one second. so just, you know, you are going to get both sides in the room and the democrats are going to look at you and say we aren't going for anything unless you allow us to increase taxes on the wealthiest people in this nation. what do you say? >> well, that by itself, martha, isn't enough to say yes or no. because if you don't solve the problem they keep hanging on. we aren't going to allow you to

reduce taxes on the wealthiest americans and on and on and on. here's the other thing i would do at president. i will expose the democrats class warfare line every time they want to do something they start talking about taxes on the rich. ii have a break news announcement. there are rich and they are going to stay rich. i want other people to get rich which is why i totally want to replace the tax code and replace it with something that would give everybody an opportunity. i would debunk the whole class warfare card that some people are falling for, step one, and then be honest and truthful with the people. >> herman cain, very good to talk to you this evening. thanks for being with us tonight. >> thank you, martha. enjoyed it. >> coming up, catastrophic and devastating, those are the words being used to describe the defense cuts triggered by the super committee's failure. colonel oliver north goes on the record on this. he has a lot to say. he has a lot to say. he's com americans are always ready to work hard for a better future.

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>> from america's news headquarters, i'm ainsley earhardt. a developing story regarding the future of yemen, the country's president reportedly arrived in saudi arabia where he is expected to sign a power transfer deal. according to yemeni tv, he arrived in riyadh early wednesday. but it is not clear when he will sign the deal. following months of protests, asking for his ouster, he has agreed to sign the agreement, but has changed his mind each time. under the deal, he would sign over power to the vice-president in exchange for immunity from prosecution. a judge has been suspenned for beating his son with a belt. his daughter put the 2004 tape on the internet, where he was viewed by millions of people. i'm ainsley earhardt. now back to "on the record." thanks for watching fox. for your headlines, go to

foxnews.com. >> a new battle is brewing on capitol hill tonight and the safety of our troops is at stake. now that the super committee deadline has come and gone, the race is on to block the automatic cuts that will kick in to the national defense budget. many are taking steps to stop the $500 billion in cuts. ltd. col. oliver north joins us now. colonel north, thank you for being here. >> good to be but. unfortunately all those behind me are going home on vacation but the 90,000 americans serving in harm's way in afghanistan and the 25,000 left in iraq, they are still in harm's way and these guys are going to end up cutting their budget. >> i understand your point. and there's a lot of people who really wish that they had been able to come to some kind of conclusion here in the super committee that's being called anything but super at this point. and the failure to do so feel

has seriously put our defense budge net jeopardy? >> i do believe it. because it's 1.$1 trillion. that's just not the 650 billion that people keep talking about. there's a real danger from iran, china and some of it addressed in the debate this evening. we've never disarmed in the time of war. and this president said he will veto any measure that would reverse it. it's the largest cut in history, and it will yield us the smallest force since before world war ii. we are look at cuts in military personnel, military construction cuts that will leave unfinished bases and weapons systems like ships that won't get finished. you can't build and sail three quarters of a ship, can't build fighters and do research and do development on aircraft and new

missiles for the predators and the next generation of the so-called chrohn's and you can't build tanks or combat vehicles. it goes on and on and what they have done is basically left us in harm's way. >> rick perry said tonight he believes leon panetta should resign because he's not willing to allow any sort of extension of this plan, and he intends to allow these defense cuts to kick in. what do you think about that? >> he's not the first one to suggest that. in fact, there are other people who are not talking about that inside of the five sided voice basket call the pentagon. there's a lot of concern that this secretary of defense ought to resign to show his support for the military he has. he's in the national command authority. he knows how devastating this is. those are words he used, catastrophic. what some are suggesting is there's a way to spread that $650 billion in additional cuts over the rest of the budget. it will never get through the

senate and we know it. unfortunately these guys in the build being behind me have forgotten the words provide for the common defense are in our constitution, but the word entitlement is not. >> interesting. okay. newt gingrich was asked tonight if he would be in favor of defense cuts or if he would completely rule them out as a matter of course. he said, no, i would not. and he said one of the things that bothered him is that in some cases it puts 15 or 20 years to put a defense program into place and apple can turn around their product in 16 months, 12 months sometimes. >> and of course he has more experience than all the rest of the candidates on that platform. i'm not sure we should admit to watching the other network but i watched the debate and he has more experience in national security affairs than all the rest combined. he's right, you can just turn it on and off like that. >> so you agree with them, that projects shouldn't take that long, 15, 20 years to come forward and there are cuts that

could be made in defense that could go to that and not to the bottom line for soldiers? >> we have already cut it and now we are going to add more in unwanted and quite frankly unnecessary cuts. and it does put us in jeopardy. ballistic missile defense for the american people are going to stop dead in its tracks. >> tell me about the bracelet you have on your wrist. >> it's on a p. o. w.. it's the holiday season and hopefully we will never forget we have an american that's been missing since 30, june, 2009. he's out of the 25th infantry division from alaska. hopefully somebody in pack stain knows the american people are praying for him for safe return on this holiday. >> we will keep our thoughts on him and his family for thanksgiving. good to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> straight ahead the campaign trail may be tough, but late night tv can be even worse.

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>> you have seen our top stories but here's the best of the rest. demands for apology after a late night tv band insults congresswoman michele bachmann.

and jimmy fallon says he's sorry about that. it came after his band played a song with insulting here ricks as michele bachmann walked out on stage. >> welcome to the show minnesota congresswoman michele bachmann. ♪ [music to song] >> the bandleader said the song was tongue and cheek and it was a spur of the moment decision but fallon treated i'm honored michele bachmann was on our show yesterday and i'm so sorry about the intro mess. i really hope she comes back. fix that situation. and a wild seen in the south korean parliament. they give up tear gas in the mie of a room. smoke fills the chamber. it was a sign of protest against

a free trade deal with the united states. scuffles also broke out between the parties and there was plenty of screaming and shouting and in the end the violence didn't stop the ruling party from passing the trade deal. there you have it. that's how they do things there. that's the best of the rest. coming up, your last call. well, they couldn't reach a deal, but is the super committee setting a bit of a fashion trend? welcome idaho, where they grow america's favorite potoes. everyone knows idaho potatoes taste great. but did you know they'reood for you too? they're high in vitamins and potassium. and idaho potatoes are now certified to carry the heart checkmark from the american heart assoction for foods low in saturated fat and cholesterol. so they're good for my family, and for yours. heart smart idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal.

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