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greatest generation that america has likely ever seen, world war ii. thanks to everybody from the service during that time. >> absolutely. bill: by the way, that was blood you saw on that man's pants. >> yeah. he is okay. bill: it was a mere flesh wound. >> he nicked his finger. bill: good to be with you, julie. >> great to see you too. bill: happening now starting right now. jenna: no wild animals here. jon: not yet. jenna: you never know. in the newsroom anyone can walk by. we're glad you're with us, everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon will stay watch on the show to make sure no one speaks up. jon: i have got your back. i'm joan ott here in the fox newsroom. "happening now", the newt gingrich surge not slowing down as we get brand new polls in the gop race for the white house. they come less than four weeks away from the iowa caucuses, the very first presidential contest in the country. jenna: the house speaker way
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out in front in the cbs "new york times" news pom. he has 31% of likely caucus voters that have been surveyed according to poll, a double-digit lead over his clest challengers. mitt romney and ron paul showing support in the teens, jon, but still trailing gingrich. jon: on the national scene there is more good news for newt who is ahead in the real clear politics poll average with more than 31%. mitt romney with a distant second at 20 1%. jenna: herman cain still own the screen. it will be interesting to see once he is taken away what happens next. the former fronlt runner is thinking about his strategy, when we're talking about the former fropt runner we're talking about mitt romney. romney planninging a aggressively to campaign in the early primary states and with more tv ads. jon: charlie hurt fm "the washington times." he watches politics very closely. explain the newt gingrich surge. >> oh, boy, i wish i could
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explain it. it has been quite mind-boggling to watch especially in a year where you have the sort of the tea party with such influence in the gop primary. they want an insider, an outsider to come into washington and, you know, tear the place to pieces, turn the place upside down. then they settle on the former speaker of the house newt gingrich as the clear late frontrunner. it's really been amazing to watch but you know, it's been clear that republican voters are hesitant to embrace mitt romney but the guy has a ton of money. he has a ton of organization. he has organization even in places like iowa where, you know, he has kind of been reluctant to campaign too much. in because he has a history of not doing well there and doesn't look like he will do all that well there but he's got a good structure there. has a lot of volunteers there. has a lot of campaign staff
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working on that state and so you know, if all that translates into a victory or doing better than expected this iowa and then he does as well as everybody expects in new hampshire, you know, newt will have an uphill battle. jon: mitt romney has an awful lot of things as you point out. he has got organization. he's got a lot of money backing his candidacy. he has can -- charisma and everything else but he might not have the lead in terms of voter enthusiasm. when asked if they would enthusiastically support their candidate, here are the results. newt gingrich got 43%. ron paul actually came in with 31%, 31%. and there is mitt romney as 34%, just ahead of ron paul. enthusiasm counts for a lot this time of year, doesn't it? >> oh absolutely, especially in a place like iowa where you have caucuses. it is not simply a matter of a voter walking in, flipping
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a switch and walking away. you gather on a cold night in precincts all over the state. it is freezing cold and you have to fight for your candidate and in a place like iowa enthusiasm matters more than anything and that's probably why, you know, ron paul is expected to probably do much better than to kind of swing far above his weight class in terms of, you know, the likelihood that most people give him for going the distance. jon: and that's why ron paul supporters certainly very enthusiastic about their guy. you wrote an interesting column for the times about the fact that mitt romney is an olympic preparer. he did run the olympics. he prepared for sarah palin. he prepared for tim pawlenty. he prepared for michele bachmann but you say the thing that was too ridiculous, too absurd, too unrealistic to even consider was the rise of newt gingrich. why?
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>> it's just baffling. you have the ultimate insider. you have probably the one guy in the entire republican field who has spent more time than anybody else in the bowels of the beast of washington, who's a part of the system. has been part of the system for a long time and yet he's the one that emerges at the last minute. i would actually argue that it has more to do with a discomfort with romney than it does an infatuation with newt. republican voters have literally gone through every single one of these candidates as a frontrunner. they have embraced him. that person has shot to the top and in most cases they flamed out, the latest being herman cain. and i think all of that is owing to the fact that republican voters really do feel like we are picking the next president here. so we want to pick somebody we really, really love. we don't want to just settle for mitt romney because he looks good, he looks presidential. he has the most money and he
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is the most prepared. i think they want an agent of change right now. jon: it is not over until it's over. we really haven't cast any ballots yet. we'll see who emerges from this primary and caucus, charlie hurt, thank you. >> thanks jon. jenna: we have live pictures from coop toll hill where the house and senate homeland security committees are holding their first of ever joint session. this is focusing on homegrown terrorism and targets of military personnel and bases right inside our country. consider this. the feds have thwarted at least, at least five terror plots against the military inside this country just in the last 18 months. we have a few of them to remind you of. a u.s. citizen from massachusetts, busted in september for allegedly plotting to attack the pentagon and the u.s. capitol. he was the one thinking about using remote controlled airplanes packed with explosives.
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back in july a u.s. army private was arrested near fort hood texas plotting a shooting spree and bombing. the same place where major nadal hassan is charged with the deadly shooting rampage back in 2009. in june the fbi busted two men on terror and firearm charges in connection with a plot to attack a seattle military processing center. that are a few that are discussed today. chief correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: thank you. lawmakers testifying since 2001 there have been 33 alleged plots against the u.s. military domestically and 70% have occurred since june 2009 representing a significant spike. >> american servicemembers and their families are increasingly in the terrorists scope and not just overseas in traditional war settings so that the premise of this hearing, this joint hearing is not
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theoretical. it is based on fact. >> reporter: from both sides of the aisle senior lawmakers called on the obama administration to recognize that you can't talk about the threat without talking about religion. >> our government has to recognize at some point who the enemy ace and call it by its exact name, not, the enemy is not a vague catch-all of violent extremism but a specific violent islamist extremism. >> reporter: short time ago senator collins explained that a recent letter from the defense department about the fort hood case says the threat was being framed in the context of workplace violence, jenna. jenna: thinking about what senator lieberman said about it not being theoretical. it is also very personal, of course the families affected by these plots. one specifically, the father of private william long. his son was shot dead outside a recruitment center
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in arkansas, private william long who was shot dead. did he have anything to say today? >> reporter: we haven't heard from darius long yet but this is one of the most striking cases. it was in the summer of 2009 and described by counter terrorism officials as really the first attack by al qaeda and yemen inside the united states. there is private william long. he was shot outside the recruitment center by american convert to islam by the name of carlos bledsoe. that morning two people were injured. long was killed and a second man was injured in that attack and we're waiting to hear from the father of william long and we have a quote from his prepared testimony and it reads in part, if you can just pull it up. my faith in government is diminished. it invents euphemisms. little rock is a drive-by and fort hood is just workplace violence. the truth is being denied. so what we have today is really a lang mark hearing involving both of these committees in a joint session.
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we're hearing from senior defense department officials and then we're hearing this very personal narrative by those who lost somebody in these attacks, jenna. jenna: we will continue keep our viewers updated on al this. catherine, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: it's a fox news weather alert for you now. thousands of people in california still in the dark a week after that wicked windstorm. the outages caused mostly by downed trees taking down the lines, affecting more than 6,000 customers. force some to rely on relatives to get by. >> we have two kids so we need to get them clothed and fed and bathed and we want they will to go to school on time. so we've sent them to grandma and grandpa's. jon: not a bad time of year to spend some time with grandma. check out this early morninging video out of memphis. up to three inches of snow expected to fall in that area and folks there are not the only ones seeing snow today. meteorologist janice dean is
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live in the extreme weather center. a white christmas for memphis. i wasn't expecting that, jd? >> yeah, here in new york it was 61 last night. it is kind of topsy-turvy weather. however that is going to change, jon scott. we could see a few snowflakes fly across new york city but mainly rain. let's look at some of the snow falling across the south. there is memphis. nashville getting in on some of the snow, huntsville, alabama. as we move towards the east coast that is where temperatures are warm ahead of this cold front so it will be mainly a rain event but as the cold air invades the region that's when we'll see the changeover, overnight tonight could see a few snowflakes. depending where you live you could see rain, mix of freezing rain or sleet or just snow. taking a look what we're dealing with over the next several hours the precipitation accumulations, several inches along the coast for the big cities, interior sections you could get three to six inches, maybe even higher amounts in
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the higher elevations. so depending where you live is where you're going to either see the snow or the rain or the mix. so again, there's the timeline, wait wednesday through thursday. heavy snow possible through the appalachians and higher elevations of the interior northeast and mainly just a rain event for all the big cities up and down the east coast. back to you, jon. jon: janice dean, thanks very much. let's look at some critters who don't much seem to scare what the weather is. this is fresh video in from kttv. those are the potted dolphins off the coast for san pedro, california. old home week though you're more northern california. jenna: can't get it confused. jon: still the california coast and there we go. jenna: you think we jinxed ourselves? we said no wild animals during the show and first video is dolphins. jon: happy to stay? in the salt water. jenna: we have news to get to. new twist in the search for a florida mother who vanished after appearing on
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"the people's court". why police are questioning her former fiance's mother this time around. all the details when geraldo rivera joins us in studio a little bit. jon: rod blagojevich is about to learn what the jury thinks. we're waiting for the judge to sentence the former illinois governor convicted on federal corruption charges. a live report from chicago just ahead. jenna: jon, sound a little bit like a bad joke. three women, a lawyer, therapist and travel agent. they get on a plane. jon: what happens? jenna: what happens next is not the quite the punch line you might expect. we have bizarre details about their trick or lack thereof coming up. -- trip [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation,
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blagojevich was convicted on 18 felony counts of corruption including trying to auction off president obama's vacated senate seat. mike tobin is outside the federal courthouse. what do we think blago will say today, mike? >> reporter: i have have got it from a source after insisting he was an innocent manage, he was led astray by advisers, governor blagojevich will admit guilt in court. i pressed source will he admit he is sorry? the source said, everyone says they're sorry. the defense took a new tact yesterday. they admitted wrongdoing, said what governor blagojevich was a crime but wasn't worthy of 15 years. they pleaded for mercy. they said blagojevich does not deserve mercy but his family does, jon. jon: how much time could he actually get? >> reporter: you know, there was a brief discussion about probation but very brief.
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that kind of evaporated. the defense right now is asking for the bare minimum, 3 1/2 years. the prosecution has been asking for 15 to 20. there are a couple of templates out there. blagojevich's predecessor, governor george ryan is serving a six 1/2 year sentence. the government is arguing that that was not strong enough to send a message because the next governor came along and got in trouble. a coconspirator of blagojevich, a guy named tony rezko was handed a sentence of 10 1/2 years. he wasn't the chief. the governor was. it stands to reason that the governor would get greater than a 10 1/2 year sentence but there is a difference. rezko made money off the deal. blagojevich never profited. jon? jon: interesting. mike tobin there in chicago. let us know when it comes down, thank you. jenna: you know the deal with robin hood, right? he stole from the rich to give to the poor. apparently there is a tax proposal named for the legendary bandit of sherwood forest. i haven't seen this version of robin hood. one on our screen.
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jon: didn't know they had video back then. jenna: apparently this policy would tax rich banks, give the money to poor people. it is gaining support among some but as you can understand there are critics that say it is a very bad idea. we'll take a look at the big picture coming up. we're following the search for missing florida mom michelle parker. police are questioning her former fiance's mother. geraldo rivera joins us in studio next with the latest developments. you want to save money on car insurance? no problem. no problem. you want to save money on motorcycle insurance? no problem. you want to find a place to park all these things?
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jenna: welcome back, everyone. authorities are issuing a number of subpoenas in the search for missing florida
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mom michelle parker. she's a 33-year-old who disappeared more than two weeks ago on the day she and her ex-fiance appeared on an episode of "the people's court". i should amend that. it wasn't the day they appeared. it was the day the episode they were in aired on "the people's court". there is important difference we should mention. the ex, the former fiance is dale smith, jr.. he is on your screen. he is the prime suspect but hasn't been arrested or charged and now police are questioning his mother. joining us live is geraldo rivera, host of "geraldo at large". >> hey, jenna. jenna: hi, geraldo. you spoke with the family, michelle parker's family. what did they have to say? >> they still believe dale smith is somehow involved and he is not telling everything he knows. this is her sister, lauren erickson, the sister of michelle parker. i spoke to her just maybe 20 minutes ago and she talked about how they heard about the episode airing. they were in a salon
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together. michelle started getting text messages. that is when lauren expressed her concern. i told her she was a pretty girl and head turner and what if someone watches and stalks you? i definitely worry she told me about michelle's safety around dale, her husband, because he was malicious and violent when he got drunk. he was the last one to see her alive. he knows more than he is telling but someone other than dale must have been involved. remember she drops the children off, the twins, the 3-year-old twins at dale's condo. she then disappears. dale shows up at his parents house an hour and 20 minutes later. michelle is never seen or heard from again as far as we know. jenna: so why the mother though? why the mother now talked to by the police? >> because it is clear, jenna, the cops believe dale smith, jr., holds the key to this mystery and that his parents are not above reapproach or above suspicion. there are some people who believe that dale smith,,
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sr., has in some way if not been implicated, and i don't want to go too far with that but there is a shadow of suspicion. i spoke to tim miller, of he can waa search, who was with great fanfare brought into the case by mark nejame, the attorney for dale smith, jr.. miller told me in an attitude and voice loaded with disgust. he said quote, we're out of this case. the defense attorney, mark nejame put me in an awkward suspicion that i search when his client is the prime suspect. it is media circus and i don't want to be one of the clowns. knee james says he didn't have -- nejame said he didn't not have time to killer and dispose of her body and the hummer. jenna: could be hired b the family as a way to distract or give a different perception to the public than that of guilt? >> i have no doubt that
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you're exactly right. tim miller believes he was being played like a puppet to distract attention from dale smith, jr.. jenna: take a step back from the quote, unquote, suspects in the case. no one has been arrested in a case. >> it is rare for a cop to name someone as a prime suspect. jenna: they don't bring him in. >> you don't know she is even dead yet. jenna: we don't have a motive. motive you have an ex of course. there was tension in the relationship but according to the description from family and also from seeing that episode that they were this on, it wasn't a particularly aggressive episode of "the people's court". it didn't look like they were fighting. the ruling was actually split for both of them. one has to wonder with would happen if it did would be motive for this man to do something to his ex-fiance? >> talk about the benign affect of people's court they paid the $2500 judgment. there is no money involved. go back to dale smith, jr.,
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first or second wife died of an accidental overdose when he was around. a man who has been violent. dishonorably discharged, who has been violent with her. go back to the original incident she threw the ring at him we demanded ripping back. earlier they were in the lobby of the hard wok w rock in atlanta, georgia at this convention. they had the argument because he was drinking violent, malicious. jenna: started course of drinking that day? >> i don't know of any reports contemporaneously that he was drunk that day. that's true. he should take the lie detector. take the lie detector. you're a punk if you don't take the lie detector, dale smith, jr.. if you want to get suspicion off your back, do what you have to do. jenna: geraldo rivera always with that final statement that kind of hits it home. thank you very much. we'll see you next hour on a different case as well. jon? jon: as the 2012 race for the white house kicks into high gear, there are new allegations of election fraud in one state in the
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investigation of allegations of election fraud involving possibly forged signatures on some 2008 presidential primary petitions for both president obama and hillary clinton. all this as we head into the 2012 election season. senior correspondent eric shawn shaun is working that story for us here in their new york city newsroom. what is the latest, eric? >> reporter: there are questions whether president obama legally qualified for the ballot in the 2008 democratic primary in indiana. our fox news investigation has uncovered more evidence of possible election fraud in a race for the highest office in the land. is that your signature on this? >> that is not my signature report report did you sign this petition for barack obama? >> no. >> reporter: you did not? >> no. >> reporter: chair triwas stunned see her signature for barack obama on the 2008 presidential primary. her signature was one of many allegedly forged on petitions to putthen candidates barack obama and
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hillary clinton on the ballot. >> it is scary. a lot of people already lost faith in, you know, politics and the whole realm of politics and so, that's just kind of solidifies all of our worries, our concerns. >> reporter: robert hunter says his name was faked too. >> i did not sign for barack obama. >> reporter: so someone formed this? >> that's correct. >> reporter: the investigation centers on democratic petition that sailed through the st. joseph county registration board in south bend, indiana. the handwriting of voter registration deputy and democratic volunteer dustin blythe reportedly matches writing on some of the suspect obama petitions. according to a handwriting analyst hired by the south bend tribune and the political newsletter, howie politics indiana. did you forge any signatures. >> i don't have anything to say. >> reporter: did you fake any petitions at all? >> i have nothing to say. >> reporter: his lawyer says he did nothing wrong and any
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handwriting comparisons are meaningless. >> handwriting is is not the same as dna. handwriting is not the same as fingerprints. >> sign it real quick? thank you. >> reporter: it caused officials to take steps to protect the upcoming primary process in the state. he is the saint joseph county democratic chairman. >> we'll get to the bottom of this. i as party chairman are committed to make certain we do all we can to make certain this doesn't happen again. >> we certainly set the bar a little higher in indiana. i think anybody would think twice before trying to tinker with the process. >> reporter: do you think the president qualified for the ballot? >> no. >> reporter: state republican chairman eric holcomb has a blunt warning. >> this is the chicago way and will not be tolerated in the state of indiana. i would tell me friends across the country they need to be on the lookout for it as well. it is fact that some folks will do anything to try to win an election. >> reporter: the state democratic party called this an isolated incident.
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here is how it works. candidates need 500 signatures from each of the nine congressional districts in indiana to get on the ballot. president obama made the cut in st. joseph county by less than three dozen, qualifying with 534. but a reported 150 signatures may have been faked between his and hillary clinton's petitions but they were never challenged. st. joseph county prosecutor mike dorvik is now investigating the whole thing. by the way if you suspect voter fraud or election fraud where you live are here is our address, we want to know about it. voter fraud@foxnews.com. back to you. jon: nobody wins in a fraudulent election. eric shawn, thanks. jenna: in the meantime we'll turnover seas now. we have some new violence today in afghanistan. a roadside bomb killing at least 12 there and it comes one day after a coordinated series of attacks that killed at least 55 including one american. the attacks targeting shias
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in the country and this picture captured the scene better than we could ever describe. take it in for a second. if you see some of the major national newspapers today you will see that picture or a version of it staring back at you, and widely publicized because of the terror it shows by looking at it. it is raising fears what happened in these coordinated attacks, something we haven't talked a lot about when it comes to afghanistan. the idea that maybe terrorists could try to provoke an iraq-style civil war. that could severely hamper u.s. efforts in the withdrawal of our troops. brian katulis senior fellow at the center for american progress. he joins is right now. brian, do you think that is a possibility? >> there is always that risk. we haven't seen an attack of this sort against shia in afghanistan essentially since the taliban regime ruled that country. these horrific attacks seem to be conducted by a very fringe militant group largely operated in pakistan. the risk in an
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already-fragile dpil security situation in afghanistan could have more attacks like these, lead to a deterioration of the security situation in places like kabul. will it lead to civil war at this stage? unless there are a number of these attacks and unless the shia of afghanistan organize in some sort of way i don't think we're looking at a situation like we saw in iraq back into 2005, 2006 or 2007. jenna: what do you make of these attacks coming from pakistan? >> reporter:. >> first we should be clear in pakistan there is alphabet soup of. it is hard-line and used to get support from pakistan any institutions but now think they have been disowned. they're not connected to mainstream taliban groups attacking u.s. soldiers. jenna: are they supported by the pakistani government or the pakistani military in any way? >> it is unclear. i don't think they're sported like haqqani he willments and other groups
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from the taliban. this group killed hundreds of people in pakistan in the city of quetta in pakistan they conducted a similar attack. it is volatile mix that could help undermine what is already a very fragile situation in afghanistan. jenna: could you go back to the point it could help? >> could hurt. i'm sorry. jenna: sometimes, you mishear and change the entire subject so hopefully get it right. brian. could hurt. one of the reasons why i was asking but the ties between the government of pakistan to this group because this story made me think about what a choice it would be if we had some sort of, well, we already have conflict obviously between the two states but obviously we're also in support of both afghani and pakistani governments and so how would the united states choose who to support or how to get involved with this situation if it were to emerge? >> well at this stage the u.s. policy is to try to support those both in afghanistan and pakistan that want broader regional stability and right now i think the biggest challenge
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in that is pakistan. as we've seen in the last couple of months they have been playing a double game. on mondays, wednesdays fridays working with us. on tuesdays, thursdays and saturdays working against us and i think that is the fundamental part of the struggle in making sure that the leaders running the security services in pakistan are not supporting the sorts of groups that are killing our soldiers right now and that's unfortunately been the case for many years now. jenna: brian, thanks so much for your expertise. we'll continue to work through it and we'll have you back. >> thank you. jon: ever heard of something called the robin hood tax? it is gaining support as populist anger against the banks rises. this tax would place a levy on trades in the financial markets, essentially taking money from the banks and giving it to the world's poor. critics say such a tax would damage an already-fragile economic recovery. liz macdonald from the fox business network joins us. so explain the robin hood tax, elizabeth. how would it work? >> reporter: the way it works the tax would be levied anywhere from $3 to
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$10 per $10,000 worth of trades and say bonds or stocks or stocks or even derivatives but it's causing consternation among policymakers here in the united states, jon because even the administration is lukewarm about it. the concern is that that tax would actually be passed on to investors. investors would have to end up paying this robin hood tax and also there's concern that if, it would basically create job losses in the finance sector. certainly the united states and britain are worried about that. jon: i imagine the thinking is that it's not going, you know, do a lot of damage. it is just a few dollars here and there. who is supporting isn't. >> well who is supporting it is really interesting. bill gates, software pioneer met with g20 officials last month would raise $48 billion depending how it levied. al gore in the past supported it. even the pope. george soros supported it "occupy wall street" and angela merkel has talked about it and nicolas sarkozy in france talked about it.
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two congressman here in the united states, tom defazio and tom harkin talking about it. the creator of the tobin tax, the robin hood tax was created by james tobin. he was an economist in early '70s. he wanted it to stop speculators in the currency market. he said he didn't want it used to create jobs or pay down government debt. back to you, jon. jon: the devil is always in the details. >> that's right. jon: who administers the fund and who pays it out? >> reporter: that's right. would you need more government officials to collect the tax? is that where a lot of dollars raised by the robin hood tax would go to creating jobs in government. back to you. jon: jobs in government, we sure need more of those. liz macdonald thank you. >> reporter: sure, deer lighted. jon: december 7th, 1941 is a day that will live in infamy. exactly 70 years later we have never-before-seen footage of the japanese attack on pearl harbor. a first-hand account from a
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navy photographer who was there. we're live with that story. actor alec baldwin was kicked off a flight. he takes to twitter about it. what did another famous guy have to say about the whole thing? we have his reaction next. ♪ . ♪
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jon: well --. jenna: a little holiday news maybe today. are you ready for this? jon: this is an interesting one. jenna: alec baldwin getting the boot off of a plane. the "30 rock" star kick of off a flight at lax yesterday for not turning off his phone. the plane was apparently about to leave the terminal, head nor new york city. american airlines says faa regulations concerning electronic equipment. don't we all know about that. got to turn off your phone. some of the passengers are talking about the incident and one of the people on the flight, boxing champ oscar
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de la hoya. >> actually, felt alec baldwin was turning off his devices and, he just got a little angry. >> he was on his phone. didn't want to get off the phone. he snuck into the bathroom and became a little bit irate. had to remove him from the flight. >> very rude. caused us to be delayed. not very contract. not a very unselfish man. jenna: whole bathroom incident. got up to go to the bathroom with seatbelt on. baldwin turned to twitter. he tweeted quote, last flight with american. where retired catholic school gym teachers from the 1950s find jobs as flight attendants. jon: so he puts do the flight attendants, right? nice guy. jenna: we just by the way look at try to find his twitter account. apparently been deactivated. what was so important he point put his phone away? that was one of the questions you ask.
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he likes the online game word with friends. he is addicting. not that big of a deal. words with friends is came out with this. can check the post at the bottom. baldwin 1, american airlines 0. i got back on an american airlines plane and made his way to new york. that whole thing about being last flight on american wasn't true. jon: i sat next to an american flight attendant on another airline when i flew to rochester over the weekend. very nice lady. airline is having its problems. good riddance, alec baldwin. jenna: fly private? jon: try that. jenna: anyways. jon: it was a bumpy ride before one airtran flight even left the ground. three women, a lawyer, a therapist and former flight attendant all kicked off that flight. it was headed from palm beach to new york and they are blaming a male flight attendant for the way he handled a piece of carry-on luggage. take a listen. >> so, hey, i have breakables in that.
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>> it was just like a bully, and i found myself, i was shaking. >> it was aggravating. it was infuriating. i was incredulous to see two women be told they have to be thrown off an airplane for doing nothing. >> i said, excuse me, sir, my seat is broken. and he looked at me and said, i'm not talking to you. and, poked me in the arm. jenna: poked her. jon: yep. airtran said in a statement, we always prefer that a passenger walk away with a positive experience when flying our airline. we regret that didn't happen in this scenario. as we often do this situation we will take the opportunity to review the reports. jenna: so in other words, it's a teachable moment. jon: there you go. jenna: well, all right, guess you can also write us at "happening now" and tell us about your experience if you've had any similar, similar ones to those ladies or alec ball win for that matter. jon: i do feel sorry for
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some of the airline personnel these days. they have difficult jobs but, you got to customer service comes first. jenna: that's what we're about here. that's why we have a great story next. the priceless treasure found beneath the streets of new york city. there are some discoveries and these are just a few of them, these dishes, when utility workers were installing a steam pipe in lower manhattan. thousands of artifacts. some of them right here in our studio in fact. we're asking the question who did they belong to? how did they find them? we'll speak to the archeologist in charge of that major find next. less than a month before the first test of the presidential race what is texas governor rick perry doing to regain lost ground. all the conversation has been about romney and gingrich. what about perry? campaign carl is on the case and he has some brand new numbers to tell you about. ♪ . looking good! you lost some weight.
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♪ . jenna: well, it's a fascinating treasure found beneath the streets of lower man hat and raising the question what else we could find underneath our cities today. take a look at this. utility workers are installing a new steam pipe near new york city's south street seaport and they discover a basement foundation dating back to the early 1800's. a team of archeologists is working down there digging up thousands of artifacts like fine china, appellate plates, goblets, potterry. they are literally piecing items back together and getting a snapshot what life was like 200 years ago in one of america's most popular and biggest cities.
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we have the president of chris is a list arc eology. what a amissing thing to stumble upon. did you expect to find what you found? >> you never expect to find. more often there is nothing more than utilities and nothing more. jenna: are you automatically called in by the city to be on these digs and projects? >> in historic areas we're part of the project. just as you have electricians and plumbers, arcology is part of the pcess. >> tell us what you found? >> we found a range of old foundation walls and artifacts associated with them and old infrastructure like wooden water pipes. most recently we found an old basement foundation when the family left their property they disposed of whatever they didn't want. jenna: they left everything down there? that is one of the question. who leaves all this good stuff in a basement and takes off? >> throw it out and you don't need it anymore. usually when they were
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leaving this area they were getting ready to pave a street so they knocked the building in on itself and left whatever they no longer wanted. jenna: according to some of the research this is a pretty interesting family you think that lives here? >> yeah. we're trying to determine if it is the a wealthy dutch merchant family or the descend ability of the first bornayor of new york city. jenna: looking broader perspective. we're seeing artifacts you found on the screen. cities all over america. thinking of busy cities that developed recently over last 100, 150 years. are things like this underneath our feet all the time? >> yes. jenna: really? >> yes. more often than not you level an area and you built on top and you have layer and layer of the past and all the history beneath our feet. jenna: what are some of the interesting things in your opinion that you've found? >> from this site or overall? jenna: from this site specifically.
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seeing all the different pieces. i know you found a lot but is there one maybe stands out to you as one of the most intriguing fines or something that you weren't expecting? >> i'm always fascinated by the little pieces of children's toys that get left behind. jenna: oh interesting. >> people will often find pieces of marbles that kids made out of clay, particularly a little bird's head that was part of a toy or whistle. jenna: i have only 30 seconds here, but what does this tell us how these people lived during that time? >> we get picture sometimes more the things change the more they stay the same. a lot of things are similar but we get idea of global reach. we have imported materials from all over the world. imported water from germany. it is just a nice little snapshot how new york came to be. jenna: something we sill do quite a bit and pour water. >> absolutely. jenna: thank you very much. we'll continue to follow your finds. >> thank you. jenna: jon? jon: fascinating. the truth behind "fast and
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furious", the botched federal gun running operation. is it a case of collective amnesia in the justice department or something more? we're on that story next ♪ it's easy to see what subaru owners care about. that's why we created the share the love event. get a great deal on a new subaru and $250 gs to your choice of 5 charities. with your help, we can reach $20 million dollars by the end of this, our fourth year.
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jenna: operation fast and furious still so many questions. what did they not know? what did they not know it? what did they know? we are going to digeeper into this. we are glad you're with us, everyone, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. a lengthy paper trail shows signs of what you might call collective amnesia in the obama administration. jenna: lawmakers will have pointed questions for attorney general eric holder when he testifies on capitol hill about operation fast and furious. we'll see what happens when it
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comes to be. william la jeunesse is live with more in los angeles. >> reporter: we just received word that senator charles grassley who has led this investigation from the beginning will be giving a speech on the senate floor in about 30 minutes from now. speculation on the hill is he may call for the immediate resignation of assistant attorney general lanny brewer. he is head of the justice department's criminal division. brewer says he did not recall reading a letter denying knowledge of fast and furious even though documents show three drafts of that letter were sent to him and in one email he seems to acknowledge reading it. as one of the more reserved and deliberate long-time members of the senate this could be a crack in the dam that has held other senators back from calling for attorney general holder's resignation as well, as many find it implausible that the department is blameless in this scandal. >> i did not know about fast and furious. >> reporter: not the attorney general or his deputy. >> i cannot say for sure whether i saw a draft of the letter.
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>> reporter: or his former chief of staff. >> as it turned out senator i did not read that weekly report. >> reporter: nor apparently did officials at atf or homeland security. >> i did not know about fast and furious. >> no one was aware that guns were walking at my level or above me. >> reporter: those charged with stopping guns at the border actually had federal agents helping smuggle them. >> i could not believe that someone in atf would so-cal just lee let firearms wind up in the hands of criminals. >> reporter: in violation of u.s. and international law, and none of the president's top officials knew it. >> he was not aware of what was happening in fast and furious, certainly i was not. >> we have no record of any kind of notice or heads up. >> reporter: some lawmakers simply don't buy it. >> there were memos with your name on it addressed to you referring to the fast and furious operation. are you just saying you didn't read them? >> i didn't receive them. >> reporter: we've also just received word that congress today is demanding all of the
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homeland security documents regarding fast and furious from secretary janet napolitano after learning of a meeting in 2009 that was designed to make sure that ice agents did not interfere with fast and furious and the guns going south over the border, that they look the other way on these suspects. that is why an ice agent, jenna and jon, had been assigned to fast and furious from the very beginning and received a copy of every report that they generated. secretary janet napolitano said she never received that information herself. this is shaping up for a very difficult day tomorrow for the attorney general. back to you. jenna: we'll have full coverage of that. thank you so much, william. jon: let's go to capitol hill for more on this. utah congressman jason chafitz, what is question one for the attorney general. >> reporter: what did he know and when did he know it? to what degree is this inch spe or a koufrp.
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you have the senior most people in the administration saying they never saw this. they didn't know about it, but we have memo, after memo after memo where the under links wer lings were trying to tell people what was going on. the president promised us in a march interview that somebody would be held accountable. nobody has been fired to date, nobody has taken that responsibility. how is the administration, how is president obama going to actually fulfill that promise? openess, transparency and accountability. it hasn't happened. jon: i have a target pistol, i like to go shooting. in new york state in order to get a permit for that pistol i had to get four notarized affidavits from people who know me, i had to provide my fingerprint, all of that kind of stuff. these are just guns, high-powered weaponry that are just being sent across the border, perhaps even with the help of federal agents? >> by the thousands. that's what is so troubling. if they had taken a thousand or
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two thousand weapons and left them on a playground this country would be furious. that is exactly what they did. they not only left them on the playground, they gave them to the bad guys we knew were willing people. there are 200 people in mexico who have died on the other end of these guns. we have a dead u.s. agent and yet we have an administration with people saying, i didn't really read the memo. that is not acceptable. senator issa and senator grassley have done a great job. we have one box of documents. when we got the 1400 documents there was discussion in here whether they were going to give us the documents. that is not what the law says. there are a lot of questions at this point. jon: you mentioned chairman issa, you mentioned senator grassley, you yourself a republican, all three of you republicans, is this a republican attempt to embarrass a democratic administration? >> no, we have to make sure that
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what the president said in march, which i totally concur w he said we would get to the bottom of this. that mistakes were probably made and they would hold people accountable who were responsible for that. that hasn't happened. that was the democratic president obama saying this. we have an obligation to make sure this never, ever happens again regardless of the administration. jon: there are letters from u.n. derlings from the attorney general saying they misled congressional committees here or provided incomplete information. >> they did. that letter that they sent to senator grassley in february where they purposely lied to congress, that is totally unacceptable. there is an investigator general that is in place within the department of justice. part of my question is are there going to be any criminal prosecutions within the department of justice of government officials? because at this point i don't think you can come to a conclusion other than there are people that potentially committed crimes in lying to congress and doing so on purpose. jon: the attorney general will be appearing before your committee tomorrow, correct?
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>> yes, the judiciary committee on thursday morning. we look forward to it. jon: we will certainly be watching it very closely here. thanks very much. jason chaffetz, republican from utah. jenna: a weather alert for you now, new flood fears as a cold front, snow and heavy rain bear down on the east coast of our country. meteorologist janice dean is live in the fox news extreme weather center which is earning its name today, j.d. >> reporter: all of that mess you just reported, general ace going to mean airline delays. take a look at philadelphia, close to two hours on average delays for you. newark over an hour, laguardia just about half an hour. things are going to continue unfortunately throughout the day. this is a quick mover, but gearing twe are going to see snow in tennessee, kentucky, down towards northern mississippi and alabama. nashville is getting a little bit of a wintry mix, and huntsville you're next. mainly a rain event for the coastal cities but interior sections that's where we're
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seeing the snow, anywhere from 2 to 3, even 4 inches, a little bit higher in the higher elevations. it's december we expect this for this time of year in the northeast. a quick mover, by 9:00 wednesday again dealing with mostly rain for all of the big cities up and down the i-95 corridor. thursday looking at a little bit of snow in boston. it's out of here on friday, lake-effect-snow as the cold front moves through. it should be out of here. jon: awaiting a jury's decision in the sentencing phase of a home invasion trial. the convicted killer faces the death penalty. what will the judge and the jury decide, a live report next. plus terrorists in pakistan claim responsibility for a deadly series of attacks inside of afghanistan. is the war there taking a dangerous new turn just as u.s.
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jenna: right now we are waiting for a jury decision in connecticut. they are considering a possible death sentence for a man convicted of a deadly and brutal home invasion, so familiar to all of us at this point that we really don't need to go into too much more detail on it. laura ingle is watching this from the breaking news desk. you and i talk about it in the hallway all the time. you've covered it from the very beginning. it's been a long road in this case. what is the defendant's fate? >> a lot of people asking that question today. really right now we are in the third day of jury deliberations in the penalty phase. they have deliberated roughly eight hours. if you take it into comparison's to his accomplice steven hayes in the penalty verdict, a different jury took 17 hours and came back with a verdict of
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death on the fourth day. there is one thing that we know about jurors, we can never predict what they are going to do or how long they are going to take. one interesting thing that happened yesterday before the jurors were excused and went home for the day, they asked if they could come in early and deliberate longer on these days, giving us an indication that they may not be ready just yet to render a verdict on the six capital felony counts. what we are waiting for right now is a knock or a note. a knock is supposed to mean a verdict, a note is they have a kre. there have bee question. there was a knock today. we talked to the reporters in the courtroom, their hearts dropped, whenever they hear that knock, the jurors wanted another pot of coffee first thing in the morning. they want to come in early tomorrow starting at 9:00am. we wait and we'll let you know what we hear out of the courtroom. jenna: looking forward to that conclusion, whatever it is to be sure. one part of this. this. again, this portion of the case that has been really interesting
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in watch is that the defendant has a young daughter, and she was allowed to testify in a way in front of this jury. tell us a little bit about that, and what kind of factor that could be in whatever the sentence is. >> reporter: so many people look at this. look the prosecution is looking at this man and trying to convince jurors that he is a predator and a violent killer and he acted in a cruel and heinous matter and a depraved manner as he took the lives of jennifer-hawk pettite and her two daughters. the defense says he is damaged goods of mental health neglect. during the penalty phase the defense was allowed to play a 21-minute taped piece of testimony of the little girl. she was interest viewed boy a child welfare expert who interviewed her on tape, talking about her dad, mostly talking about what kind of games she liked, what kind of animals she liked, but did bring up her dad. a lot of legal experts are
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saying this could be the only thing that would save him. when you look at facts of the case and you look at a little girl living the rest of her life knowing her dad is on death row it may work in as a factor. jenna: we'll wait for the knock and bring our viewers to date if we hear anything, lawyer a thank you. jon: it would be nice to see that story finally come to an end. a deadly roadside bomb in southern afghanistan rips into a mini bus packed with civilians. at least 19 are reported dead, including five children. this bloody attack just the latest incident of deadly sectarian violence that raises alarms about relations between afghanistan and pakistan. conor powell is streaming live for us from kabul, afghanistan, connor. >> reporter: afghan officials now say 59 people were killed in multiple attacks on shiite muslims celebrating the holy festival yesterday. the u.s. embassy says one of those killed was a u.s. citizen. they are not releasing any more
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information out of respect for the family. today the president hamid karzai visited the one hundred or so people injured in yesterday's multiple attacks and today he vowed to confront pakistan about these attacks. yesterday a pakistani militant group claimed responsibility for the attack. this is a pakistani-based militant group that has never attacked here in afghanistan, and actually the afghan taliban condemned the attacks. hamid karzai said today he would confront pakistan about these attacks. pakistani officials have said they had nothing to do with this attack and they say they have nothing to do with this terror group based in pakistan. a lot of bad blood between afghanistan and pakistani leaders here. most afghans believe that pakistan fuels the insurgency here in afghanistan. and this latest sectarian attack is proof in their minds that pakistan is interfering in afghanistan. one thing should be noted sectarian violence here is very rare and many afghans hope this
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will be just the only case of sectarian violence. they feel they have enough going on here in terms of violence and war, they really don't want to see sectarian violence flame up here, jon. jon: there has been 30 years of war in that country. conor powell, thanks. jenna: a ph-pbgs on the water, jet setting the globe, nice if you can swing it, but we're not talking about a regular couple. someone that has taken welfare hand outs, how long one couple kept up this scam and their lifestyle next. plus, before newt gingrich rick perry shot to the front of the gop presidential pack before taking a fall in the polls. some are asking can the texas governor come back? have you seen the polls? he's speak sneaking up there. we will talk about perry's chances next. at bank of america, we're lending and investing in communities across the country, from helping to revitalize a neighborhood in brooklyn to financing industries that are creating jobs in boston
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jenna: america's election headquarters, your front row seat to politics. rick perry shot out of the gate like a rocket when he entered the race. with the iowa caucuses less than four weeks away he's trying to play catch up here. we have the cbs news new york times poll of registered voters showing beginning r-rb o newt gingrich with 31%. mitt romney next. and rick perry in the double digits. joining us now for a discussion is, michael, let's start with you. one of the reasons we are looking at rick perry here, if you see who won iowa in the past they don't necessarily become the presidential nominee or candidate for the republican party or democrat party or otherwise. does rick perry really have an
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opening here? >> rick perry had hoped when he first got in the race that he'd be the winner in iowa. it's a caucus in which 60% of the voters in 2008 were classified themselves as evangelical or born-again christians. he thought his record on issues would be satisfactory. he had those awful moments in the debates. when he couldn't remember the third point of his own program, that was an excruciating moment. i think he's recovered somewhat from that. he's shown good humor. he's performed better in the debates. he's still way behind. the cbs poll has him in double digits but just barely. jenna: let's talk a little bit about his strategy going forward. you flagged me to a new ad and it shows an interesting shift. >> i'm not ashamed to admit that i'm a christian. you don't need to be in the pew every sunday to know that there is something wrong in this country when gays can serve
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openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate christmas or pray in school. jenna: pretty interesting, carl. why strategically would he focus here on his faith and ask a question like that at this time? >> reporter: the biggest single block of voters in the iowa caucuses are selfidentified evangelical christians. he is making an obvious play to court him. this is the second spot he one with his own issue of faith as the center of it. he ran an ad a week ago when the republicans got together for a big faith and family forum. he ran an ad there and said he wasn't at all ashamed to talk about it. not only do evangelicals make up more than the caucus vote in iowa, they make up more than half of the primary vote in south carolina. they are a very dig deal. he's got a very significant air campaign. he's going to spend a million dollars on ads in the next
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month, that is probably more in iowa than any other candidate will spend on tv ads. in addition to what he will put in the airwaves i'll also be doing it with buses and boots on the ground. he's going to bus hundreds of volunteers from texas into iowa to beat the bushes and help get those people to the caucus. jenna: he still has all the money left to use, despite what happened in the debates, what does he look like financially when it comes to his campaign and also through infrastructure. >> reporter: substantially diminished. he started with a big, huge boost to his war chest. because of all of his mistakes the fundraising has dropped off. the possibility of a long protracted battle between mitt romney and newt gingrich that could start in iowa, through south carolina and into florida and even beyond races questions whether the two top frontrunners may do such damage to each other with a negative and nasty calm opinion that it could cause republican voters to give a second look to someone like rick perry.
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there are gop establishment types, that say like dan quayle, you only get one chance to spell potato correctly. this campaign is expected to go longer than expected. perry and other candidates may get that second look. if the mitt romney and newt gingrich battle is toxic and long enough they'll have baggage to go off, as well as their rivals and independent groups, it could turn off independent voters and they could search for somebody else. jenna: we actually have a new ad from romney today. he also talks about faith in a different way from rick perry. take a listen to this. >> if i'm president of the united states i will be true to my family, to my faith and to our country and i will never apologize for the united states of america. jenna: is it as effective? will it work as well, michael? what do you think about that message putting out there at this time in the race. >> it's an implicit criticism of president obama and his supposed apologies for the country and
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past misdeeds east would have it of the united states. it's an attempt to kind of get a broader message than rick perry did and is ae to put together in that faith ad that you showed earlier and that carl commented on. i think that the perry ad shows a certain weakness in this respect, what perry had going for himself most strongly entering the race was his reputation as the governor of texas, the nation's leading job producing state that had an economic formula for success when the rest of the country was in the doldrums economically. and he's not making reference to that. that previous strong suit has dissipated in value, he's not emitting the central message of what had been his campaign. so he's trying to scramble for a finish in iowa that will keep him in the race. i think that unless he improves on the poll showings he's got right now and that you showed
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earlier in the broadcast it's going to be difficult for him to sustain interest in his candidacy beyond the january contest. jenna: it will be interesting to watch. carl, as you say we have until may and june. a quick final thought, carl on that, does rick perry still have any ammunition when it comes to the economy and jobs creation at this point? is it still relevant or has he completely lost relevancy on that point. >> depending on the polls you look at, 50 to 60% of the voters in early states haven't yet made up their minds . everybody has a shot. with romney anybody who thinks he hasn't taken note of newt gingrich's surge, this week's travel by mitt romney the fact that he's got his second ad on the air in three days talking about himself, romney started the week in boston, he flu from l.a. from phoenix back to la. from la to d.c. to san francisco. from san francisco he flies to iowa for the debate coming up on saturday. mr. romney is flying this week more across the country than anybody else and he's done the
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most media interviews than he has done in a year and a half. jenna: michael and carl thank you so much, looking forward to having you both back together. jon: nobody has more miles than carl. jenna: that's true. carl could share it with the rest of us, right. jon: it would be nice. everything you thought you new about privacy on facebook might be out the window now. a new security flaw may be exposing your hidden pictures. also, geraldo is in his office, he's ready to head on down to the newsroom. geraldo what are you working on now? >> reporter: rod blagojevich is very sorry. he finally admitted what he did was wrong. he says he's made some terrible mistakes. as you know he has 18 counts, facing 15 to 20 years in prison, so it's about time he called himself childish, unproductive, immature, petty, apologized for fighting this case in the media and i'm unbelievably sorry. i'll have the details, jon in a second. almost tastes like one of jack's als.
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jon: fox news alert. there is breaking news on that u.s. spy drone that iran somehow got its hands on. the drone is an advanced model. here is a look at it. there are fear that is the iranians might be able to reverse engineer some of its top secret technology. fox national security correspondent jennifer
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griffin is live at the pentagon with more on that. jennifer? >> reporter: jon, there were such concerns that one u.s. official confirms to fox news what was first reported in "the wall street journal" this morning that there were three plans in place to try to go after that downed drone when they realized they lost it on thursday. they came up with three plans. one would have involve sending a special operations team to try to retrieve the drone. one would be a send a special operations team to destroy the drone or they were considering to destroy the drone with an airstrike but it was considered too risky to do so. they did not want it to be perceived as an act of war but a senior u.s. official confirms they did have plans to try to destroy the drone once it went down. jon: that would have been an interesting raid. jennifer, thank you. jenna: a few privacy concerns involving facebook today. a major security flaw allowing anyone to see all of your photos even the ones marked private.
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shibani joshi reporting from the fox business network with more. >> jenna, it was technical glitch that caught up the ceo of facebook mark zuckerberg, a temporary bug that allowed anyone to access noters whether or not you marked them as private or not. mark zuckerberg's photos, his profile was compromised in a major bug that hit facebook overnight. look at some of his personal pictures leaked online. him with his girlfriend. him showing off a plate of food. him with a prize on a hunting trip. none of us were ever supposed to see this. facebook confirming in a statement that undetermined number of the 800 million users on facebook were impacted by a bug that quote, was the result of one of our recent code pushes and was live for a limited amount of time. upon discovery of the bug we immediately disabled the system and will only return to functionality once we confirm the bug has been fixed. jenna, this isn't the first time we've seen privacy issues on facebook.
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last month it settled claims with the ftc that it violated or did not protect user data. another reminder to be very careful about what you put on facebook. jenna: a good reminder always. shibani, thank you very much. jon: right now in a chicago courtroom rod blagojevich is just making his final appeal for leniency telling a federal judge he is sorry for quote, terrible mistakes that he made. the ousted illinois governor faced decades in prison after his corruption conviction. geraldo rivera anchors "geraldo at large". all right. >> hi, jon. jon: got you down here. >> you do. he will individualtores, can't figure them out. -- elevators. jon: he says he is sorry. i thought the other day his lawyers were saying he is innocent, blago of any corruption. now they're saying yeah, we did some things wrong.
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>> full disclosure to the audience. i really love this guy. him and his wife patty have been friends. i hung out with him when all the troubles began. i think he is charming rogue playing the game particularly chicago democrats played this game. i feel awful. finally he has apologized. it was the right thing to do. he was a foolish man to take the witness stand during his second trial. the first trial was a hung jury largely because he did not testify. in fact the defense didn't even put on a case in the original trial. hung jury. the feds brought him back in. they slammed him, 18 counts. he is facing 15 to 20 years now. he will lose his house. he is a good dad. you know, i go back to the fact he was a good governor in terms of community service but he did overstep his bound. he did use his office to try to enrich himself. jon: i tried to sell the senate seat. >> i never saw it that way and i was shocked and a bit offended that they went
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saying lincoln is turning over in his grave and rest of it. listen the jury convicted him out of his own mouth. he is a big mouth. he is finally facing the music and smartly throwing himself on the mercy of the court. he is asking for mercy, literally asking for mercy as is his wife, as is his attorney. >> we'll see what the judge decides. >> i'm afraid he is going down for the count. jon: the indications are the judge is not inclined to be lenient. >> i knew ryan the other governor of illinois before blagojevich. he went to jail too. jon: the geraldo kiss-of-death we'll call it. we're taking a look at the jamal, that well-known, cop killer who was convicted in the death of a philadelphia police officer. we know that his -- >> 30 years ago friday. 30 years. that is how long we've been reporting this story, jon, 30 years. jon: his case went all the way to the supreme court. >> several times. or at least twice. jon: now prosecutors have
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announced that they are not going to argue again for the death penalty. the death penalty was thrown out in his conviction. >> the death penalty was overthrown because of potentially confusing jury instructions. the supreme court refused to review the throwing out. so now he was either facing a retrial on the sentencing. thanksfully the district attorney in philadelphia said enough. maureen faulkner the widow, a newlywed when the officer was shot down by him or somebody else has agreed to allow him to serve life in prison without the possibility of parole. thank goodness this case is finally over. jon: she may have agreed to it. i wasn't aware of that but she is not happy about it. we tried to reach out to her for a comment. we do have some tape to play though. take a listen. >> the disgusting reality with the death penalty in pennsylvania is that the fix is in before the hearing even begins.
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and federal judges, including the four dishonest cowards who presided over my husband's case are the fixers. >> she's right about that. pennsylvania, like connecticut, the home invasion case, and the death penalty imposed on those two creeps who did that but in connecticut the only people that have been executed since the 1976 pause in executions because of the supreme court ruling have been people who volunteered. the same in pennsylvania. three death penalty imposed. all three volunteered. he was the most famous inmate on death row. this case has been argued but if it had been in another state perhaps would have gone a lot faster. she is right. she calls the fact that the death penalty though imposed or handed down is never, never really imposed. on the other hand, you know, the guy has enormous following worldwide and, would have exacerbated racial tensions in
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philadelphia. you know that. jon: charles man manson has enormous following worldwide. >> charles manson is not facing the death penalty for similar reasons. once these cases get dragged out, eyewitness case, what good would have been done in my view to execute this guy at this point? 30 years later? it is half a lifetime after the crime was committed. he has been, you know, the case has been up, down, jerking here and there. i think the right decision, thank goodness, the administration in philadelphia now said, enough. let's put the past behind us. jon: geraldo rivera, host of "geraldo at large". thank you. >> thank you, buddy. jenna: a lot coming up just ahead here. speaking of the town where teddy roosevelt delivered a famous speech, president obama making some news of his own, making a big pitch for the middle class in america but also getting some criticism for what some are calling class warfare. valerie jarrett a key player in the administration. she is our guest next. [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up!
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jenna: well, we have a major speech by the president that was given just yesterday. if you just hold on one moment, i apologize, we have a little bit of a problem here with what we're showing on the screen. there was a major speech given by the president yesterday in kansas. this is where the president and many talked about him, trying to seem like theodore roosevelt and his new nationalism speech back in 1910. some of the themes the president talked about yesterday were the middle class, resoring fairness, giving everyone a fair shot. the speech does have some critics of the as people take a look at the speech today, we've heard some of them. we would like to talk to the white house more about this. valerie jarrett, a senior advisor to president obama and she is our next guest, if we can see her. valerie, nothing but smoothness at the beginning of the interview. as you nice to have you as our guest. >> good afternoon, jenna. jenna: there has been some talk as you have heard about class warfare, really from either side.
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really specifically when it comes to the president people have referenced this speech now being a shot at class warfare. i want to be really specific when we talk about this so i'm running a little bit of the speech and we'll talk about it in just a moment. >> now in the midst of this debate there are some who seem to be suffering from a kind of collective amnesia. after all the that's happened, after the worst economic crisis, the worst financial crisis since the great depression, they want to return to the same practices that got us into this mess. in fact they want to go back to the same policies that stacked the deck against middle class americans for way too many years. jenna: valleyry there is a reference there are some, they want to return to the same practice, they want to go back, who is they that the 39 is speaking of? >> i can give you a very specific example. tomorrow richard cordray sup before the senate for confirmation to run the consumer financial protection bureau.
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we have well over 40 senators republican senators who said they will block his confirmation. why? because they want to weaken the consumer bureau. that bureau is an excellent opportunity for the first time to have one central place in the federal government that looks out after the consumer. today, for example, members of the bureau were in ohio announcing a plan that will simplify our credit card applications down to two pages so that you know what you're doing before you owe. that's a very simple process that will help millions and millions of americans across the country. there's a huge effort to try to dismantle that agency and block the confirmation of the person who will be there looking out for the consumer when we know just three years ago so many consumers across our country ran into trouble because of the risk-taking of a very few. that is the president who was really trying to address. jenna: he is speaking specifically to the republicans? >> yes. and also the people who are spending millions of dollars lobbying here in washington trying to get rid of the rules of the road that we know if they had been in
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place we would not have had the kind of financial crisis that we just had three years ago. all over our country people are suffering as a result of not having those rules of the road. we know have them in place. yet people are trying to dismantle them 18 months after they were put in place. jenna: i'm looking at clock behind you. i know we're inching toward the end of the year. i see if congress doesn't act the middle class taxes increase and it has the clock ticking down. the president though, as you mentioned, you yourself are calling out the republicans saying they're trying to essentially block whatever he is trying to do and achieve as president. as we know, compromise is such a key compromise of system though. i wonder how helpful is it to have the president go out on national stage and call out republicans in a matter of few days also have to compromise with him as well? is that really presidential? >> absolutely it is presidential because what the president focuses on first and foremost what is good for the american people. and the reason we have this clock here to remind
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everybody about just what the at stake. it is make it or break it time for the middle class. if on january 1st, taxes go up and they have $1,000 less in their pocket that will have a ripple effect around our country. it will hurt people who are already stretched too thin who are sitting around the kitchen table every day trying to figure out how to make ends meet. jenna: both sides agree with that. both sides agree with extending payroll tax cut. the way they want to do it which is a real problem. i talked to members on both sides, if i could, both sides are saying same thing about each other. gets to point you really don't know who to believe the president is the leader of the free world. he has opportunity to lead into this congress. when do you think he will jump back into the conversation, invite people back to the table and really get a deal here. >> he already jumped back into the conversation. he never left the conversation. what he has been saying consistently throughout is that this is about math. there are only some ways that we can provide this payroll tax cut to
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hard-working americans and what he is saying is, let's take a look at increasing taxes on the very wealthy, a modest tax increase, to help fund this. what he is unwilling to do is to make this cut on the backs of very important programs that we need at this particular vulnerable time in our country. so it is a clear choice. as we travel around the country and we talk to the american people it is very clear that they appreciate the president's view about fairness, about balance, about shared sacrifice. that is what is at stake right here. so he is leading and that is why he gave the speech yesterday because he wants everyone to understand what's at stake. that is why we have this clock ticking. because it is so important that before congress goes home before the holiday break that they act and they pass this very important tax. jenna: and my clock is ticking as well. we have only 30 seconds until commercial i would like to follow up. unfortunately we're out of time. valerie, appreciate you joining us. thank you very much. >> thanks, jenna. great afternoon. see you tonight. jenna: will too.
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the white house christmas party for television is tonight. i will sneak in hopefully say hello to valerie and some of other colleagues. see you tonight. jon: that sounds like fun. the iranian will air video of the u.s. drone that iranian forces claim to have shot down. our pentagon will not confirm that. the technology this drone carries and military secrets that could fall into the wrong hands are a big concern. what if anything can we do about it next defends against ol constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with the strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. you had me at "probiotic." [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health. ♪ that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm [ male announcer ] for half the calories -- plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8.
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>> coming up at the top of the hour on "america live" we expect to hear rod blagojevich's sentence. we have heard his plea for mercy from the court. we'll watch all of that unfold right here live. that should be something to watch, folks. the naacp does not like some of the new voting rights laws in some states.
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so they're taking their complaints, get this, to the united nations? really? we'll have more on that. an amazing document, the 13th amendment, signed by abraham lincoln and the surprising place it was found. you've got to see this, folks. we'll see you back here at the top of the hour. jon: some new information on that high-tech spy drone that went down deep inside iran apparently. a senior u.s. official speaking to fox news on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject matter, now confirms that a range of plans was considered to recover or even destroy that stealth aircraft. they even thought about sending a team of covert operatives into iran to either destroy it or bring it back. in the end, it was decided that such an operation was not worth the risk. let's talk about it with michael singh. former middle eastern director of affairs at national security council. now managing director of the washington institute for near east policy. the pentagon apparently
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decided they weren't even sure the iranians knew this thing had gone down inside their country? >> well, that's right. you know, it is doubtful, jon the iranians actually shot this down because their capabilities simply aren't that great. it is also doubtful that the iranians could do that much with it. the pentagon is obviously concerned and i think their concerns probably take a range of forms. either the iranians themselves somehow could manage to do something with this, or sell it more problematicly to others. jon: that is more likely in your view? >> i think so. the irinaians don't have capability to reverse engineer it or do anything useful with it. there may be others who do. countries like china or others who might be interested in this technology. jon: this thing obviously is a very complex technological flying marvel guided by satellite. a guy on the ground flies it with a joystick. the thinking is maybe somehow the electronics just went haywire and this thing went down on its own? >> well anything can
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malfunction. it is a piece of electronic equipment and so it can malfunction and remember it is sort of a calculated risk. the reason we have unpilotted aircraft so we're not putting pilots in harm's way. we should be thankful it is unmanned aircraft went down in iran, not a pilot the jet which we would have much different situation. jon: the thinking with the pentagon going in with a team of seals to destroy or capture it or destroy it from the air would potentially cause an international incident and the benefits weren't worth the risks. do you agree. >> they want to avoid inadvertent conflict with iran. from the iranian perspective this comes at a good time. they want to show they're tough in the face of pressure. the i. >> the united states military, the united states government is very concerned about avoiding an inadvertent conflict with iran. jon: we know when the pc-3
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spy-plane went down in china after mid-air collision in 2001. the chinese made a lot of use of that technology. michael, thank you. we'll be right back ♪ [ gong ] strawberry banana! [ male announcer ] for a smoothie with real fruit plus veggie nutrition new v8 v-fusion smoothie. could've had a v8.
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