burrback would win. ali 56 wins and 5 losses after that when he retired. 30 years ago today. and that's how fox reports on a sunday, december 11th. now, huckabee. >> tonight on huckabee, he promised not to toe the democratic party line and his party are pushing programs nothing more than temporary fixes. >> why would we do this and double down on a-- >> and senator joe manchin, why he's fighting the democrats on their failed plans. >> and how many flip-flops can president obama do? we count the ways on the report card. plus, ireland's favorite son says that europe and the rest of the world can learn from america. >> america is an idea, a contagious idea. >> in a huckabee exclusive, u2's bono says no one is better at helping out those in need than the united states of america.

ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applaus [applause] >> welcome, everybody. what a great audience we've got here in new york. a lot of people here for christmas and we want to say welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. well, in another shameless attempt to show you recent photos of my five month old grandson chandler. i want to tell you about a recent conversation that i had with him. i asked chandler if he knew it was almost christmas, and he assured me that he was getting ready, already having gone to see santa. and getting in some early shopping at the famed fao schwartz toy store in new york and he mentioned that he was ready to join president obama in a round of golf during the president's upcoming extended vacation in hawaii of course he'll enjoy that great seafood he'll get there and so he plans to took his lobster suit he had from halloween, that way he can fit in with the

locals. and i also asked chandler if he understood why i was so passionate about protecting human life from the moment of conception and well, he reacted like a lot of people in the media do. but i explained that he he's such a special life to me and i just cannot imagine anyone would not want him to be here. and you see, he was created an as a reminder, god isn't finished with us yet because he keeps sending people along to keep the world going, but i told him that even though i wasn't running for president this year, i wanted to vote for someone who would fight to protect little guys like him before and after they were born. so i asked him if he understood what might happen if president obama got reelected and i think his face says it all. (laughter) >> well, we had a great response to our presidential forum last week and i'm going to discuss that in a moment, but this week, i'm going to be part of another forum in des moines, and several of the presidential candidates will be there, for sure we've got

rick santorum, rick perry and newt gingrich, michele bachmann for a powerful film i helped produce and host, it's called the gift of life. a unique approach to explain the reason that the sanctity of life matters. many attempts to communicate a pro-life message are combative. you think your he' going to find this refreshing and uplifting and being that it's in iowa and before the caucuses we'll mind candidates and voters while the economy is center stage, treating every human with worth and dignity is still essential in selecting a leader. it's become more urgent just this week when the f.d.a. approved for over the counter sales of a drug that kills a developing baby. and health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius did make it so that one has to be 17 to purchase what has been termed abortion in a bottle. and now, think about this for a moment. if you have a daughter, she

has to have parental consent to take an aspirin at school, but the government was on the brink of letting her purchase a pill that will kill her unborn child with neither your consent nor approval. this is insane. so the gift of life movie illustrates why each life matters, by seeing things through the eyes of people whose mothers contemplated or even attempted to abort them. by the way, all audience members here today are going to get a copy of the movie, "the gift of life" and i think they will enjoy it and he they take it home with them. now, if you want more information on getting one for yourself or maybe for christmas gifts, go to "the gift of life movie.com and go to mike huckabee.com and follow a link and there you can comment on today's show. and well, our special republican presidential forum last week featured six candidates who each got equal time to answer questions from a panel of state attorneys general.

>> and the president should ab leader of the country, but that's different than saying the federal government will administer it and the federal government will set the rules. >> i support a constitutional amendment to ban abortion, if you will, or to stand up for the right to life. that intimately involves the state. >> the patriot act, if that would have been called the repeal for the event it wouldn't have passed. >> you said if elected you'd issue an order to block implementation of the-- >> the executive order obviously givers you that authority, but states should be putting in place right to work laws to allow the people of their states to participate in the work force without having to join a union. >> mike: well, the forum and the format received great reviews and even from some surprising sources. here is what the new york times wrote. they said and i quote one of the most substantial events of the republican contest so far. we asked you to react on our facebook page and received

thousands of comments and e-mails, here are some. christopher from nashville, thank you for a refreshing q & a for each candidate. please tell me no teleprompters were used for the closing remarks. all of them said what they said from their hearts, not for the candidates. and fred walk, this is sent within 30 minutes of the airing of your show, the best most substantive presentation of the candidates so far. this is how it should be. literally interviewing for the job. i like that. linda lane commented on facebook, finally got to hear the candidates uninterrupted and without their digs at other candidates. and ted said, this appointed newt gingrich subjected to almost hostile interrogation. actually he wasn't he got the same treatment the other candidates got. i think the attorneys general did a fair and balanced job. robert from montana said we thought the attorneys general

were excellent questioners and interjected when the candidate rambled on or got off the answer. >> next from new york, the order of your republican guests last night indicates you still hold a grudge against governor romney, this indicates a look of i impartiality. you must have miss it had when i said at the beginning of the board. >> the order you see them tonight was determined by a drawing held just prior to the event. did you get that, george? there was a drawing held. we picked them according to their own drawing and by the way, the way they appeared at the end of the show, same thing, they drew for the positions, had nothing to do. i've not endorsed any candidate, but endorsed the format because it worked very, very well. thank you for watching last week. okay, so mitt romney has focused on newt gingrich who has surged ahead of the former massachusetts governor in recent polls and let's do a report card.

here to grade the front runsers this week in the republican race with our report card editor of the legal news website, above the law.com and political commentator and after lately, leath heather mcdonald. great to have you here. [applause] >> let's see how far we can get into the report card before the break. let's start with newt gingrich. grade how well he's doing as a presidential candidate. he's certainly all over the news, a lot of things going on with newt gingrich and let's see, we'll start with elie, what do you give it? >> i'm giving newt gingrich an a. >> i'm shocked. >> this man had been declared politically dead in three different cades, he's like chucky from child's play, and a scowl and doing a lot of damage on the way, he's not going to win, not the point. movies.

the plan for him to be mena menacing and i think he's doing a-plus. >> unlike elie you'll going with a c. a candidate you're right the fact's not dead in the water right now is a good sign, but as a leader he seems to manage to say something idiotic every single day of the campaign. >> mike: and what's idiotic. >> or insulting, in the past few days he said the palestinians were a madeup people and insulted immigrants at the same time people who want to protect borders, all over the place, a weak leader, he's had too much baggage in his past and no chance. >> mike: okay, heather, your grade. >> i give him a b. >> mike: a b. >> we should have put you a, b and c here. what does he get a b for. >> i think he's done well in the business and he has surprised us all and yeah, he has come out of the woodwork. because of the path that a lot of people our age pretty young and younger, they don't really

know what a shady kind of scary, inappropriate he has with the wives before he found the love of his life, number three, not that number three is not the best of the three, but when you research it, it's a little scary and i think if he was to be the candidate, if this all comes out it's going to be hard because no one-- one thing that everyone can agree on obama is a good husband and he is a good father, we would have known by now if he was cheating. i'm sure there are people who haves-- >> must agree with you,'s been a great role model as a husband and father and i applaud him for that and i think that america needs good role models on that. we have an a, b and c. when we come back our panel will grade mitt romney and look at president obama and see has he done some flip-flopping? stay with us. the ♪ when the things that you need come at just the right speed, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ medicine that can't wait legal briefs there by eight,

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card panel and how to do it as one of the two frontrunners. this time heather mcdonald. tell us what you think and how we're doing with mitt romney. >> i'm not trying to, but i do give him a b, a b, too. he gets a b because i think he's a very good speaker, he's not like perry or anything, but he is flip-flopping. my main concern about myth mitt. something no one has talked about. his hair. 's got great hair, but a bad dye job. >> mike: that's the best, his hair? i would like to have his hair. >> you know what i like your hair has a couple of different shades going. >> mike: a lot. >> and he needs to work in some chocolate brown, a little bit of gray and get the foils going and black and white hair and he's a good looking guy and not-- not a gay hair dresser saying i am he' mitt romney's hair

guy. >> mike: incredible political insight, heather. >> i don't know how to follow that. mitt a b for boring. and i'm sorry, but like, the poor guy, steven colbert made the great point it's not that the other candidates are ahead of them, they're not mitt romney and the problem is that mitt romney is mitt romney. the guy can't excite his base, can't excite the mainstream and the middle of the republican party and you know, look, he seems to want to change whenever way the wind blows to try and get someone to like him, but he, you know, he is a weak leader, he flip-flops on every issue and incidentally, this is a tough election and he doesn't have what it takes. >> you guys are tough on him. okay. a z? >> i'm giving him a cz not just because i'm having mitt romney, z is a variable. you can't stall for mitt romney. anything you say about the man could be true and anything

presidential opportunities could be true. if you gave a robot a piece of chicken, the robot would say it tastes like mitt romney. >> mike: oh. (laughter) >> so that's really the kind of guy we're dealing with. i'm not saying, look, i was in massachusetts while he was governor and he's a very nice, good looking man, but it's hard to pin him down on anything, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. >> mike: speaking of pinning down. i want you to watch a piece of videotape and we're going to grade president obama. >> i did not run for office to be helping out a bunch of, you know, fat cat bankers on wall street. the only ones paying out the fat bonuses are the ones that now have paid back that tarp money. let me say a word about compensation, most americans, including myself, do not begrudge reasonable rewards for a job well done. >> turns out the republican plan boils down to a few-- they want to gut regulations, they want to let wall street

do whatever it wants, and they're playing we should go back to the good old days before the financial crisis when wall street was writing its old rules and all the rules that they had put into place. >> mike: you're beating up on mitt romney for flip-flopping. what grade will we give president obama? sally start with you. does the president get a grade on flip-flopping. i don't think that the president flip flopped at all. a b-minus. unlike the republicans who tried to block the reforms that would have stopped the crisis from happening. i think he could be doing more, i wish he had a worse grade in his relationship with wall street on this because look, what we don't need is a president who is it going to stand up for walstreet. >> mike: maybe he'll give the money back he took nor his campaign. >> hope he'll stand up for working middle class. >> mike: the best thing is not to take the money from the people he criticizes, you're

next. >> a c here. obama has gone to the mall at milk and cookie only to find that santa claus is lactose intolerant and on a diet. wall street would hate him if he did a lot less work. >> mike: heather the grade. >> c as well. not enough with the occupy wall street people and that's the most annoying thing that's happening, they're still there. i love that they got on facebook and found each other since they're unemployed. i'm sorry, but let's move on and solve some problems and i feel for you, i feel for you, i feel for you. no, just do something. >> mike: very good, i'm going to give you an a-plus for being here and great comments. and even if i didn't agree with them all. that's okay. that's why you're here. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> mike: well, he says democrats in washington are trying to pass a plan that's failed before. and he is a democrat. senator joe manchin of west

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>> since our >> when my next guest was campaigning for the united nations senate, he made it clear he was not going to be a lap dog for majority leader harry reid. >> i'll take on washington and the federal government to get administration off our backs and out of our pockets. i'll cut spending and repeal bad parts of obama care, i sue the epa and direct aim at the cap and trade bill. >> mike: joe manchin is sticking to his guns literally and refusing to support the democratic plan to say that really may not work.

senator joe manchin is joining us from west virginia, i can attest to the fact that that's ad is real and you and i antelope hunted together in wyoming and that was not a political game for you. good having you here. >> good to be with you. >> mike: you know, there was a very interesting moment this week. you went against your own party after the senate floor. >> why would we double down on a policy that didn't work? the answer is simple, for the sake of a short-term political gain and leaders of both parties and president are willing to fight how we should pay for a failed program that jeopardizes the fundamental way we pay for our retirement security in this country. >> mike: let's talk about that, why? >> mike, first, let me tell you i want to do everything in my power to put money back in the politics of the hard working middle class families and strong that everyone with wish for the same. the thing i think is

absolutely wrong, defunding social security. that, that is the hall mark of franklin delano rose development and when he put that in place he put a balance to where the employersnd employees would be paying into this and that we would never touch it. last year was the first time we had a reduction of 2%, and mike, most people in west virginia know they got it. so, i don't know, if that's done the job it was supposed to, but it seems like in washington, something doesn't work, double down and spend twice as much and let's see if we can make it work. i'm saying i'll look at anything they want to look at, but don't touch social security as far as a funding mechanism because it's worse than a crackhead on dope, we'll never get them off. >> one thing very true about it. you've done what you said would you do. you would vote with the democrats, and what kind of

fallback are you getting from the leadership of their own party when you don't necessarily just fall into line? >> well, i'm sure it's hard for them, but you know, we've talked about this and i was very candid with them. i was sent by the good people of my great state of west virginia to represent west virginia and hopefully make america stronger and rebuild america. our little state of west virginia know this country is doing well and we're doing well, mike and right now i'm basically voting what i believe west virginia, the core values that they have. i'm sorry if some doesn't speak up. >> and president obama has been critical of congress and said they're a do nothing congress and he said that they won't work with him. you're a member of congress as a member of the united states senate. are you insulted by that or does it bother you that the president doesn't seem to want to work with you? >> mike, it's not my style of leadership. you and i have both been governors and we've been friends a long time and knew as a lead her, you had to drop the mark and bring people together. i've never fix add thing in

west virginia by blaming people when i was governor. i would basically define a problem and bring people together and look at everyone's concern and then we had to put west virginia forward and move. so, this type of rhetoric, back and forth, i'm not used to. >> mike: senator, that's called leadership and i want to thanks yours as a governor and senator, i appreciate having you on and want to have you back to talk to you more and the kind of leadership that we desperately need this it country. joe, good to see you. >> thank you, mike, it's all about discussion, god bless you. >> mike: god bless you, merry christmas to you, joe. when was the last time that you heard a rock star praise former president george w. bush. a long time? coming up, u2's bono gives the former president credit in his leadership fighting for the poor and hopes that example will be followed by heads of state all over the world. that's when we get back.

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[applause] >> he is arguably the world's biggest rock star, but he is not your typical rock star. i'm talking about paul david houston. oh, you've never heard of him? he's known to most of the world is bono. ♪ ♪ what a beautiful day >> and his band u2 has sold more than 250 million albums and last year's concert tours, selling 7.2 million seats totalling 736 million dollars in ticket sales, but the bond's front man, bono doesn't fit the mold of most celebrity musicianses. he's not a spoiled star who thinks the world revolves around him and when i comes to politics, he doesn't just cozy up with hot to trot liberal politicians. he's a genuine activist who uses the heat of his enormous spotlight for good causes and

co-founder of the one campaign, a leader of bringing awareness to fighting poverty and disease in the world' poorest places like africa. recently at a world event day, bono praised america's leadership in the global fight to combat the deadly disease. >> and you believe it's building to make sure across the world that the leadership in the united states follows true in our respective countries. >> joining bono was r & b star alicia keys and bill clinton and george w. bush lauded for their commitment to fight aids. president barack obama pledged an additional 50 million dollars for prevention and treatment programs in the u.s. and vowed to help provide anti-retro viral drugs to more than 6 million people around the world. >> we've come so far and we've saved so many lives. and we might as well finish the fight. >> i've personally been involved with the one campaign

for the past four years and i've been to rwanda and seen firsthand the difference that a little can do. and i had a chance to visit with bono and asked him how he's able to get republicans and democrats in washington who can't agree on anything to work together on something so important. >> yes, it means -- the one campaign, and even in the last election, conventional election, which was, you know, another tough, tough time in america. i know that there was a decision made by both parties not to play politics and i think john mccain would enroll and president obama, and everybody decided too serious and too many lives at stake and let's not go there.

and it's fragment of spending, you know, if they -- i think it's less than 1% of government's budget and the millions and millions savings lives on-- in aids what we're talking about today. i mean, in terms of investments and a punch in the air for that one. i think in the sense it doesn't cost as much as people thought and an enormou effect of sort of explaining to a cynical world what america is all about. the best of america. >> speaking of cynicism. people are always afraid that the money doesn't get to the people who need it and that's complicated with a corrupt government. what can we know to give us confidence that money that people give, and i realize one is not a money making or money raising, but the money it advocates for these organizations, how do we know it's getting to those people

who need the money? >> that's the most important. because corruption is a bigger killer than hiv/aids, malaria put together. so, we don't ever campaign for aids. if we can't see where it's being spent and one of the reasons code red and the global fight, when they find any corruption, they demand that the government of those countries give the money back or they leave the country. >> mike: one of the things that really impressed me when i was on a one trip three years ago to rwanda, you could see the impact in a hospital. you could see the impact with mosquito nets and families with clean water. talk about some of the simple things that can be done with a very small amount of money, saves people's lives. >> oh, gosh, you know, it's such a privilege to see what

america has done. and i've witnessed it. and firsthand and i remember going to hospitals and seeing three and four people to a bed and two in a cot and one-- it was heart breaking. and people who would be diagnosed hiv positive and there'd be no treatment. and now you see the faces, not even their faces, the faces of the medical workers, they're just different because it was so hard for them. can you imagine line after line, people are given a death sentence and what it did. it justifies america getting those, and families-- they protect the children largely of this. can you imagine mosquito kills

like two and a half children every day. and actually the intervention is relatively simple. it's simple technology. >> mike: and a lot of celebrities have been involved in causes, but often it's a photo op, going to help a service commercial. you have actually personally gone all over the world as an advocate for some of these causes, what got you interested in the first place? what was it that got into your heart that made you say, i'm not just going to do a public service announcement, i'm really going to revrs myself and some of these humanitarian causes? >> i don't, i don't know, i mean, i accept rock star campaigning in many ways, it's an unbelievable juxtaposition. certainly as a photograph, i get it, you know, rock star, very vulnerable child.

i only do it because it's hard to get attention on these issues, so we use the spotlight that's on us to do some of that. because it's a little ridiculous and you might as well get some value out of it other than the nicest table at a restaurant. >> mike: i'm sure that is, but something inside of you have to kick through and say that matters to me. i care that there's some kid who is dying in africa right now. why does that matter to you? >> well, i have no choice in that. it's the globalization that h has-- brings with it some-- and you have to work for the many not just few. and you have to-- answer the question, how can it be just that an accident of job-- if i'm born here and i get this disease, i die.

and if i'm born there, i can (inaudible). that made me ask questions. and when i was in the united states i particularly reached out to religion because i felt that the charities and just -- and i looked in scriptures in 2003 versus the scriptures about the world's problems and the way the treatment is, and only judgment in the way we do it. and it's deeply ingrained with me the sacred values of human life. and if i have an opportunity or if we have as a community, as had a country, an opportunity to follow through those principles then we must. >> mike: my doctor told me calcium

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and that, middle america, that's who you are. you're great at beating yourself up, and you're the best at it and americans, but that's what makes america great. that kind, and it's there-- in the heartland. the regular people. >> mike: it's nice to have an irishman to remind us as americans that we're a pretty doggone good country. i appreciate that. >> it's a turning point. president bush is an initial-- was the turning point in the war. and you know, it is war and i would say that that was the most extraordinary gathering of forces for good since ameri america-- and it's in the history books.

>> mike: just recently world aids day, a huge international event brought together president obama, president bush, president clinton, alicia keys. >> yes. >> mike: what a lineup. what is it that causes people ordinarily worlds apart on everything to get together on something of significance? >> yeah, unusual, it is, yeah. i remember bono, that's a big-- you've got there, because you know, you are hanging out and the christian musicians who really, enormous amount of good on this next to, you know, soccer moms and i mean, it's just, it's just, it's quite a panoply of characters and i think at a time when america is getting a lot of--

giving itself by the way, so much saying as well as receiving a few bruises from outside, it's very important that america understands the value. and that's the message. it's just, i know that things are going to get cut and i know these are desperate circumstances in the united states, but for value for money is usually what america is a sign of recession and turn the money and millions and millions of lives owed to america. >> mike: i want to ask a final question that is about the art of your music and what you've done with it. your music has often been filled with a message of social conscienceness. is that purpose or who you are as a human being and have you found that that's an important vehicle to help shape human thought is to use the art of your music as a tool of

communication? >> well, it's certainly shaped, and you know, i grew up with bob dylan and bob marley, people whose-- john lennon, you know, people who, where i got the idea that the world doesn't have to be what it is. and it can be-- whether it's kissed or kicked, you know, it can be bent into a better shape. that's the message i got as i'm listening to the clash, or whatever it was and i suppose that's part of it, too, i'm very excited. and they take a lot of hits for my involvement. this is really unhip work, in lots of ways, but they've been by me and they believe in it and the last tour, i think it was ten million and they do

much more than that, but they are he' really-- they're great people. they believe in this and there's no charter in u2, if there was, i think, we think that truthfulness is dramatic and compelling. we try to write songs that are truthful. often when i was younger some songs that the enany, you know, as i got older, i realized that the enemy was a lot closer to home in my own heart and the hipocracy of my own heart so the songs started to turn more on us and different things. that's probably where it comes from. >> mike: you've done a remarkable job and i want to say thanks on behalf of all human beings around the world for advocacy that's led to the savings of literally dozens of

lives. and one of the things, you have a knack for getting people of wide political variances together. and might run for president. >> that would be a scary moment for the world. you, on the other hand, i think, would bring the reagan-li reagan-like. [applause] >> coming up one of the most popular christmas songs of all time like you've never heard it before. they're back, the banjo boys, with talent and their version of jingle bells. that's 8 hours while you wear it, plus an additional 8 hours of relief after you take it off. can your patch say that? for up to 16 hours of relief... try thermacare.

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>> one of our favorite musical guests the past year was a trio of brothers from new jersey. the blue grass music is taking america by storm. christmas weeks away, we invited them to perform a wonderful christmas song. welcome back nine-year-old johnnie, 13-year-old robe and 14-year-old tommy, the sleepy man banjo boys with jingle bells. take it away, guys. [applause]. ♪ ♪

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