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model. >> sean: what is behind the tebow mania haters? we are on the row to 2012. "hannity" starts right here, right now. a saturday night showdown in iowa as the republican presidential candidates faced off in what was the most watched debate to date. and with the clock ticking ahead of next month's caucuses, critical moment to many campaign, among those attempting to win support of voter, the former massachusetts governor mitt romney. take a look. >> i spent my life in the private sector. i understand how the economy works. i believe that for americans to say goodbye to president obama and elect a republican they need confidence that the person they are electing knows how to make the economy work again. create jobs for the american middle class. >> sean: newt gingrich took exception to romney's attempt to cast himself as an outsider. watch this. >> let's be candid. the only reason you didn't become a career politician was you lost to tendy kennedy in

1994. >> wait a second. wait a second. >> sean: all right, the most talked about moment of the night came in a heated exchange between governor romney and texas governor rick perry on healthcare. take a look at this. >> i'm just saying, you were very the individual mandates, my friend. >> you know what? you raised that before, rick. >> it was true then. it's true now. >> rick, i will tell you what. $10,000, $10,000 bet. >> i'm not in the betng business. >> okay. >> sean: that $10,000 bet has been called a gaffe by many today who are arguing that this is an example of governor romney being out of touch. joining me now in atlanta with analysis of the debate, former presidential candidate herman cain. herman, how are you? >> hello, sean. i'm doing great. thank you. >> sean: you were not there for this one. i think it took a little out of it. i wanted to hear "9-9-9" again but michele bachmann gave you shout-out at the debate. in all seriousness, i was

watching this, i didn't even take note of it. they were both smiling. a fun moment. light hearted moment. i'm watching the spin after the debate, that was the biggest gaffe in the world. i want your take. >> i agree with you. it was a bad debate because the public didn't learn a lot. i don't think it was a gaffe. it's typical of what happened throughout the campaign. as soon as the media finds something they consider to be a gaffe they ignore everything else that governor romney said. i am not defending him but i think he meant in a fun, jovial way. it became the talk of the debate when it was not. sean, the american people are hungry for specific solutions.

they didn't hear a lot of specific solutions saturday night. that's why people are frustrated. i don't think it was the gaffe of the century. >> sean: then there is this moment where now, nerve the media knows the status, marital status of everybody on the stage. so then they ask this question about fidelity and marriage. they go to everybody and then newt. you know what happened behind the scenes. you have a bunch of arrogant, executive producers behind the scenes. that is what we'll do. then we'll go to newt last and show a picture of him reacting to everybody else. and don't forget to get shots in of his wife so he can try for maximum humiliation and see if we can't jar up this debate. is that a typical -- by the way, the very thing they did not do to obama. that is what stood out in my mind. >> you are absolutely right. it was intended to be a precursor to how the liberal media and the democrats will

go after newt if he gets the nomination. if romney gets the nomination, they are going to go after him on flip-flop. they are already sharpening their knives. that was as obvious to a lot of people like you and me to bring up this whole thing. it also, sean, was somewhat of a slap against false accusation against me. even though they did not call me by name, you know the reason they brought it up was because of newt's past personal history. the american people say we are interested in a leader and solutions. which is why as you know i did well. up until the character assassination took place. i agree. that was intentionally set up that way to put newt in the barrel of the gun as the last person they raised this question. >> sean: a lot of rumors are swirling today. i'm sure you heard them.

herman cain will make an endorsement as early as tomorrow. >> no, he will not. [ laughter ] i have a process going on, sean, that is going to take a little bit more time than i originally thought. >> sean: you mean the media got it wrong again? >> they got it wrong again. go figure! they keep trying to jump the gun. but worse they're trying to put words in my mouth. you know no one puts words in my mouth. not at all. that is not eminnocent endors endorsement. >> the last big debate before we start in the iowa caucuses is thursday. on this network. >> yes. >> sean: how important is this? what would you like to see out of this debate from not only the front-runners but michele bachmann, ron paul, jon huntsman if he is in it, and i guess he is not in it and romney and gingrich.

what do you advise the front runner at this point? >> here is what i'd advise them to do if they listen to me. first, the american people want to hear what specifically will you do in order to turn this economy around? what specifically will you do for regulatory reform? give me specific ideas as to what you would do for energy independence. that is what the american people want to hear. at the debate saturday night, sean, the two biggest revelations weren't reported on. that was newt gingrich and michele bachmann made the satement we need to throw out the tax code. who said that first? i did. i'm glad they finally have gotten to that point. where the others still wrestle with how big on reform of the 2,082 page tax code. number one, be as specific as possible about their specific solutions. secondly, if it were me, everybody ought to be contrasting what they would do with barack obama.

that is who we are trying to defeat. as con sensitives. con sensitive -- as conservatives. the attack at the presidential debate isn't what the american people are interested in. maybe the political class likes this stuff, but i can tell you, the american people are sick of that. how will your ideas contrast with president obama and for the specific things that you are going to try to do to get the economy going? we have 14 million people unemployed. >> sean: all right. no specific time frame. the media got it wrong. herman cain will not be announcing tomorrow or this week an endorsement. >> no, he will not. >> sean: amazing. it hear all this information, the chatter out everywhere. wow! herman cain will make an endorsement. i'll is him tonight to give us a preview. >> you said the operative word. "chatter." that's all the it is. chatter. good to see you. >> sean: thank you for being with us. the president makes a bold prediction about next year's election on "60 minutes." we'll check in with dick

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president barack obama is making a bold prediction when it comes to his chances of getting re-elected in november. in an interview last night on "60 minutes" he revealed some of the conditions that would

need to be in place for him to lose the election. watch this. >> the question next year is going to be, and this is how a democracy is supposed to work, do they see a more compelling vision coming out from the other side? do they think that cutting taxes further, including on the wealthy, cutting taxes on corporations, of gutting regulations, do we think that that is going to be somehow more successful? if the american people think it's a recipe for success and majority are persuaded by that, then i'm going to lose. >> sean: i hate to be the one to tell the president this but most americans do want to pay lower taxes and most americans are against burdensome regulation responsible for sending jobs overseas. i guess that means he will be able to return to his career soon as a community organizer.

in the studio with 2012 prediction of his own, author of "dub goes to washington" a kid's book. former advisor dick morris. i am watching this. it's incredible to watch this. 62 american of americans believe stimulus created -- 62% of americans believe stimulus created more debt. is the question are you better off than you were four years ago? >> it is. there are three moves in obama's statement. this is a key statement. understanding his re-election campaign. first, he wants the burden of proof on republican party so he doesn't have to defend the incumbency. not that is he doing it okay but what is the republican view? he wants the issue of confidence not to be on the table. it's are you for this or for that? otherwise, the incompetence with the economy is fundamental. he wants it to be a dual advocacy. really, when he gets to it, he

wants to run like he wasn't president. >> amazing. if he pulls it off he deserves to win the presidency. four more years of this is how newt put it. reagan once said are you better than you were four years ago? can you afford four more? >> the fundamental question i think the republicans should ask him is what is it you are planning to do in the next four years that you haven't done in the last four years? and you didn't do when you had control of the congress and you were president? >> sean: good question. debbie wasserman-schultz was on with gretchen carlson on "fox and friends." she said the economy is better off. she said this. i said no, they are not by any nature what debbie wasserman schultz said. it's false. they are doing that. the other thing is smearing and besmirching and character assassination. that is their strategy. they can't run on their record. can they be success to feel pull it off?

i don't see how the strategy could work? >> no. core strategy for 2012. no candidate defended obamacare or said the stimulus was good. there is one important thing going on now. our candidates are getting vetted. i use this metaphor at the end of the last shore. you grimaceed but is it the right metaphor. you had eight and you sprayed them all with roach spray. herman cain couldn't handle it. somebody else dropped out. tim pawlenty dropped out. the one that will emerge, the one that will survive is the one that is immune. the one that can't be hit with negatives. >> sean: newt? >> newt or romney certainly and see who he decides the roach spray the best. that is what they are going through.

>> sean: i thought immediately on abc was that the $10,000 bet offer to perry shows how out of touch that mitt romney. is i thought it was ridiculous. >> i disagreed with that. i thought romney did well. >> i did, too. >> i predict a tightening of the polls. >> sean: i thought newt did well, too. >> but it was not newt's best performance. i thought romney was terrific. i think it is clear that the democratic establishment wants to run against newt over romney because newt is more conservative. i think he will tap in fashion and get more people involved and ene energized. they say romney is pro-choice and for health reform and therefore is a tougher sell with independents. in the last poll, independents by two to one think that romney would be a stronger candidate than newt. so the democrats are trying to nominate gingrich.

>> sean: you know something, i disagree with everybody. i think anybody on that stage will be infinitely better. in spite of their disagreements that we saw saturday, thursday debate on fox is crucial. because whatever happens in that debate, if anybody is damaged in the debate, it will last through the holidays and what people talk about at christmas dinner. with that said, they are going to repeal healthcare. i believe all of them. i don't think they are using -- i think they want to repeal healthcare and they want less regulation. the president is right. not to poisen the air and water. they want to unleash entrepreneurialism by lowering taxes and limiting spending. >> what i thought wednesday strong about romney in the debate saturday, when he would discuss the nature of the republican primary and go after obama, probably 80% of his comments were anti-obama.

he was more anti-obama than the other candidates up there. the others were focused at the dynamic going on. that is a moment that made me want to throw up. george stephanopoulos, hitman for the democratic party, and is never impartial and never will be set up a question about marital fidelity. at first he asked -- >> sean: so obvious. >> six other candidates. >> sean: then newt? i know. >> newt? i thought gingrich handled it really well. >> sean: two last questions and i talked to herman cain about this. michele bachmann saying newt newt/romney, newt newt/romney. is that effective? and what about the gingrich line about ted kenned versus him being. >> i thought romney was terrific in that comeback when she said i wanted to play in the n.f.l., too. >> sean: i thought it was good because a lot of humor. >> i think that, i don't think that romney-gingrich worked

well. the tea party patriots the largest of the tea party grou groups. half of the people in that will have a telephone primary. they expect 160,000 people. each candidate will speak for ten minutes and listeners will vote. i think it's absolutely fascinating. >> sean: listen. >> why do we have to wait for iowa? >> sean: good point. dick morris, good to see you. coming up, tim tebow did it again! another stunning overtime victory on sunday. so will the broncos' big win finally silence the rookie quarterback critics? well, we'll talk about that and debate that question. first, more on debbie wasse wasserman-schultz's outrageous wasserman-schultz's outrageous comments about the♪

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>> sean: all right. it appears that the tebow-bama is in deed of reality check. earlier today, dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz refused to acknowledge that the unemployment rate skyrocketed since obama took office. listen to this. >> it's been three years now since he has been president. now >> now we have had 21 straight months of private sector job growth. when he took office, the

economy dropped like a rock. >> unemployment has gone up precipitously since he took office. >> not true. it's dropped below 9% continuing to drop. focused on -- >> it's been higher when they promised the stimulus would. >> the narrative doesn't work for you anymore. >> it's not my narrative. i'm talkbe about facts of the unemployment number. >> he said they have gone up higher than -- >> sean: one small problem with the argument. the facts, they don't lie or change. according to the bureau of labor statistics in 2009 when obama took over the white house the unemployment rate was 7.8%. under his leadership it jumped to over 10% that same year. now the unemployment rate sits at 8.6%. that is still much higher than when he took office. not the only thing that team obama has to worry about. according to a report from "the hill" newspaper the campaign has been unable to come up with a catchy bumper sticker and phrase embodying his re-election bid.

our guests have suggestions. co-host of "the five," dealing with beckel five days a week. patience of a saint. andrea tantaros. and charles payne is with us from the fox business network. >> it's great that fox's healthcare has psychological treatment, i have been using a shrink. dealing with beckel five days a week. glad it's covered. >> sean: i didn't know we had it. >> you try working with him all the time. >> sean: i work with him once a week. that is enough. first of all, let's start on the business side. that is your area of expertise. we're still losing 400,000 jobs a week. we use washington obama fuzzy math. all the people off unemployment roles we don't count them anymore. >> the number that really is the mt shocking is 6 million people have left the job market. since president obama has been in office. that 6 million americans who have given up on the american dream. given up the notion they can have a job.

are they a permanent underclass or beholden to uncle sam? knows are formerly proud workers. >> sean: what is the real unemployment number if we didn't say oh, we won't count you because you don't get the unemployment benefit? 11.5%. >> if you counted people working part-time, 16, 17%. exactly. now it's 16%. gallup recently did a report and it was over 20%. these are samplings we did. if you want a better feel for it ask people how they feel about the economy. we are closer to 20% rather than 8%. >> which is why wasserman schultz was misinformed or she was lying. they can beg, borrow and steal the election. they'll try to do that. beg for four years and borrow money to give it to the 99% and steal it from the rich to do it. they will do this. they have to say like wasserman schultz, they have to lie.

>> sean: they have to lie and demonize. >> but real americans know that it didn't. so they can, they can try to snow us all they want. >> sean: they have to lie and they have to demonize because they can't run on their record. remember that. i think the obvious bumper sticker for republicans would be go back to reagan. are you better -- well, are you better off than you were four years ago? the one we have been using? can you afford four more? or newt saying four more of this? pretty interesting. you picked two bumper stickers for obama. >> i did. >> sean: explain. >> the first bumper sticker idea is mine. it's obama 2012: coming from slack. my first job. which it is. and the second one i held a contest with my twitter followers. this came in from michael steelman that says there is still time to hope that i can change. which was such a good one. he won. honorable mention, and i forget the guy's name. he didn't have the name on the twitter account. obama 2012: re-election in all 57 states. i thought it was good.

>> to the navy corpsman. all of you out there on this memorial day. i can see some of you. my favorites. charles? >> i came with my own. the first one, harder i work, the more -- the harder you work, the more you owe uncle sam. the less you work, the more uncle sam owes you. how about this? you don't need no stinking job. tax the rich. finally, social justice, time to put the nerds, workaholics and job-creators in their place. how about that one? republican want dirty air and want to kill grandma? does that work? fuzzy math work they don't count 6 million people charles talks act? >> it doesn't work because you can't change reality. he can't seize the hope and change mantra. to win he has to run the nastiest election in history. he can't be the man he promised america he would be. that is an opportunity for republicans. that is how reagan won. >> i'm not sure if it will work but it's despicable

think. it's sad. we should be talking about greatness of america. foundation that we all have an opportunity to participate and say hard work and rugged individualism never worked. never worked is scary stuff. >> sean: he said it in minneapolis in june of 2008 in a speech. if we are willing to work and fight for it and believe in it, i'm certain that generations from now, obama, mr. hope and change. he said we'll be able to look back and tell our children this is the moment we began to provide the care for the sick and jobs to the jobless. the rise of the ocean to slow and planet began to heal. arrogance. >> he can't say that anymore. >> sean: he can't read a teleprompter? david axelrod words anymore. >> he doesn't have ideas. he is asking for four more years. even he said, he said if i can't get the economy back on track, i'm a one-termer. that is why wasseransions is

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>> sean: tonight on the great, great, great american panel. former deputy secretary of state, fox news contributor, and colullnist and "the five" co-host. bob beckel is back. two-time emmy winning actor for the work on "cheers" and

murphy brown and fills in for howard stern and has his own show. jay thomas. she is a singer, actress, author of the book "what is he thinking?" what guys want to us know about dating, love, marriage. rebecca st. james. the person you need to talk to is him. >> the person i did talk to is you for the book. >> sean: you didn't put enough about me in the book. >> sorry. next book. >> she didn't have you from cover to cover? >> no. a small part about me. >> he spoke about purity. >> gave her a one-hour interview. >> the importance of purity. >> i've heard it all. "what were you thinking' the book? >> "what is he thinking." >> i interviewed guys about what they're thinking and what they think about purity. good guys. there are good guys left. >> i have a book out that is called request in the guys that lied to rebecca." >> i did not lie to rebecca. i don't mean this to be rude but it's not valuable to tell you the truth.

it is only valuable to lie to you. >> i just got married seven months ago. >> there is no value to tell someone the truth to make you look bad. there is a great value in lying. >> that's right. >> what about honestity? >> hannity was a honest guy. but horrible politics. he's honest how horrible they are. i'm not sure that the mass of men would necessarily view him as the kind of mind that you might think about when you are -- >> sean: thanks a lot. can i ask you a question. >> wait. >> sean: you talk about your faith. we talk about it. you say there is no guy that can be friends with a woman that is good look and not want to have sex with her. saying or try to. that is what you are saying. >> for the first eight years that is true. >> there is a time, it takes a long time.

>> i don't know many. >> you can be friends for seven or eight years before you get over wanting to be with her. >> this is what the book shows is that there are good guys left. because i married an amazing one. he waited for me, 28 years old. i interviewed other guys like him that are committed to purity. >> why do we make fun of people because they follow their faith and let's say they wait for that person until they get married. we talk about tim tebow later. tebow believes in god, expressing it and people in the sports world mock him and tell him to shut up. if he put on earrings and had tattoos and got arrested for shoots himself in the leg, we'd probably praise. >> i'll tell you how it changed. i believe whether he believes in god or not isn't the point. he is positive, has a great attitude. great shape. >> role model. >> i have no interest many in my sons being like tim tebow. none. but he has a great attitude. for himself, he drive himself to a level that is fantastic. i know other people that do it

also. whether it's god or whether he believes in buddha. >> sean: we make fun of people with values and morals. if a guy says he is 28 and we would laugh at him. >> i'm sad you would laugh at him. i'm sad that you as a parent wouldn't want tim tebow a role model for your kids. most people watching tonight would want a tim tebow to be -- >> sean: i would. >> i didn't say he wasn't a nice guy. >> outstanding guy. >> i also don't buy a car without driving it first. you don't get married and learn about sex without having it. >> what about having no baggage and no experiences with anyone else to start with a clean slate. >> it's really bad you get. >> can we get back to tebow for a second. people of faith, i find it despicable that they would put jesus on the back of n.f.l. jerseys, that he would put --

>> sean: why? why? >> it means the one and the only one that matters in this world and -- the idea to bring it down to the level of the n.f.l., or that somebody said on my show today jesus must have been in the locker room with tim tebow is ridiculous. i mean, the idea that the savior would somehow -- >> who did that? who put jesus on back. >> fans. >> not tim tebow. >> right. >> sean: but jay is honest and right. we do, he would make somebody that is 28 years old and a virgin, guy or girl, right? is weird. >> yes. >> not weird. be careful. >> why? >> because you may get into a situation and then you find that you marry someone that is odd in the sack. doesn't like sex. which is a huge part of being together. then causes, almost every marriage, causes some sort of a discussion, let's say. not make it negative. but over a lifetime, i believe you should have as many experiences as you can, as

long as they aren't. >> one of the difficult things in marriage is finances and sex. >> those are two things that. >> finances. >> the you're a conservative, don't marry a liberal. >> that's ridiculous. >> you're marrying up. >> married sex and i have never been with anybody other than my husband is wonderful. it's cherishing a beautiful. i'm so glad i don't have any memories with anyone else. i'm glad my husband doesn't have anybody to compare me to. we only have each other. >> fine. we just don't want anyone telling us. >> not proth le sizing you. >> she said why wouldn't you want your kids to be like tim tebow. my kids would die of boredom. >> sean: do you want them to be like bob beckel. >> did anybody think tebow didn't have sex at. >> no. >> ahhh. >> tim tebow is not saying that god is making him win. i really enjoy him as an athlete. >> i do, too. i believe he is driven by a passion the comes from

wherever and by the ability to prepare for these games. >> i think he believes in faith where he gets it from. i'll give you that. >> sean: we have to take a break. >> fact they turned it in a n.f.l. version of original is obscene. not good christianity. >> money making. >> sean: more with the great, great, great america the employee of the month is... spark card from capital one. spark cash gives me the most rewards of any small business credit card. it's hard for my crew to keep up with 2% cash back on every purchase, every day. 2% cash back. that's setting the bar pretty high. thanks to spark, owning my own business has never been more rewarding. [ male announcer ] introducing spark the small business credit cards from capital one. get more by choosing unlimited double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase, every day. what's in your wallet? this guy's amazing.

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while they do it, they show to pictures of newt reacting to the other candidates and pictures of his wife. this was a setup by the media to try for maximum humiliation. they would never do this to a democratic candidate. if they would, the next debate with obama they would ask about bill ayers and show video of bill ayers in the corner of the screen and say why did you hang out with a terrorist and give speeches with the guy? >> you are right with the media picking on newt. but the biggest people picking on newt are republicans trying to beat him. people who put money in, trying to beat the guy are republicans. >> sean: it's a republican primary at this point. >> the group is not conspiring to stop newt gingrich. simple as that. i understand why they are nervous about gingrich. the idea of mitt romney as president of the united states is as frightening as i can imagine. >> saying that trust is important to president.

like a marriage. there has to be trust there. i went in the debate not necessarily a newt fan. i knew about the choices he made in his life. my goodness, he was so strong. he made others look inexperienced. >> i think democrats would love newt gingrich to get the nomination. >> why? >> newt gingrich is a fat, grumpy, white guy. he will go up against a black, hip, basketball player. >> who has failed the country. >> it's like michael jordan against chas bono. >> even though he is well-spoken? >> fabulous but not the person for my president. i don't care if he sleeps with everybody in the studio. that has nothing to do with anybody's ability to lead.

>> sean: you say the country would take four more years of $5 trillion in debt under obama. high unemployment, failed foreign policies a guy that called. >> failed foreign policy? >> the president foreign policy president we've had since roosevelt. >> he got bin laden. >> have you guys noticed the muslim brotherhood has taken over egypt? >> it has not. >> shariah law. >> wait may want. he was supporting when we had far better relationship with mubarak who was a. >> who was a dictator and murder. >> what is better, the muslim brotherhood? >> yes. >> they want to blow up israe israel. >> you get what you get when you have a democracy. >> sean: but i'll take hip president playing basketball, to quote you, versus the guy that could get us out of the mess using sound economic process. >> he's a better businessman than newt gingrich. >> a different issue. >> that same thing you highlight in the "new york times" yesterday. people are less concerned

about a pristine looking president and want to get out of financial crisis. that is what americans want. >> the republican party, moved so far to the right. newt gingrich moved -- newt used to be a moderate and reasonable conservative. >> newt has never been called a moderate. >> he was back when -- i gave him his first $5,000 check back in the '70s. >> you were drinking back then. >> what did you buy from him? >> nothing. the point is that newt gingrich has been a moderate conservative and they are trying to move over to fit in the tea people party so far to the right and so far to the fringe and out of it, the country will never allow a president -- >> sean: you are both misreading. this country is suffering. they now want an adult back in charge instead of the inexperienced incompetent failure we have there now. >> did you see the last poll? who do they still blame? >> to your original question, i believe that newt has apologized, i mean. >> you think the country --

you accept it? >> i do. >> rediscovering god in america did a movie. >> a massive experience spoken openly about that. needs to be redemptive, redemption. >> do not like this guy. >> i'm a woman and i like this guy. >> you're young woman. newly marry and still believe in the joys of matrimonial sex. >> good grief. >> i think newt gingrich looks like the guy that women have to be nice to, to move up in the world. >> sunday another last-minute thriller for denver bronco quarterback tim tebow. while he continues to credit his faith, some appear offended by it. offended by it. we d [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and ieractive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more

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>> sean: all rig. faith may be the subject of controversy, both on and off the field. denver bronco quarterback tim tebow isn't letting the commotion affect his game. on sunday he led his game to their sixth straight win, but despite his respectfuldy mean nowhere and his undeniable success on the field, many seem to be offended by his outspoken views on religion and god. last spring tebow told me how he was able to embrace the role of being a christian in the spotlight. >> i'm blessed with a platform.

more than a platform it's responsibility and obligation to be a great role model and set a great example. it's one thing to score touchdowns and win trophies and championships. at the end of the day, that doesn't matter. >> sean: while other professional athlete mace be out partying with women, drinking, doing drugs, tebow explained the secret for resisting the temptations. >> i think the number one way that you handle that is obviously by having a strong faith and relying on that. staying in the world. by having a great support staff around you. having friends that keep you accountable. >> sean: joining me is the author of the book "tebow mystique." managing editor of paththeos.com patheos.com. >> all the experts said he would fail because of his playing style. you have people who recent he is successful with the unorthodox playing style. some people don't like the overt religiosity. some people just don't like

the fact that he is so darn earnest, so sincere. so good. part of us prefer flawed heroes to someone like tim tebow. >> i spent a little time with him and i got to know him. i liked him. as a jets fan, i'm pulling for him because i'm sick and tired of the criticism of the guy. i've been following this closely and i'm amazed at how well he has done. real life, he is a great guy. what is it, we have to have role models that are out with celebrity girls? different one every night. drinking and partying, doing drugs and get tag toos. athletes are role models will he want to admit it or not. >> i don't think we know how to trust person like tim tebo tebow. on one level i get the skepticism. we have been burned before by the public figures who proclaim their faith and turn out to be more interested in their own personal power than

personal piety. but for years he has been cultivating, kind of christianity that expresses itself through serving others and taking care of support and speaking in prisons. and through strong leadership. that is how he understands his faith and expresses it. genuine down to his word. >> one thing that impressed me about a lot of professional athletes, if you watch a game on sunday. at the end of the game you see guys from both teams get in a circle and pray together. >> that is one reason that is so unusual that tebow is controversial. we are used to athletes thanking god. but he takes so it much further. he is not just talking to talk but walking the walk. he is rich, famous, succes

successful, so invest in giving it back. reaches out to handicap people and -- >> sean: how many guys that hit home runs and bless themselves and look upstairs like that. >> the other thing i don't know why people care that he takes a knee and quietly prays a god. on every sunday, receivers make a catch like they won the bowles. and the ridiculous dances in the end zone. so, it doesn't seem the least bit intrusive for someone to pray. >> last word. >> anyone that is seeing him take a knee on the sideline and thanking jesus in press conference and take it as the full extent of the way he wants to express his faith isn't paying attention. he at every opportunity talks about other people. and concern for terminally ill kids he hangs out with. concern for the teammates. his leadership ability. those are the things that make up the content of his