you know you who are. we don't tell you, you have to look it up. if you look it up, you will never forget t. i am bill o'reilly. always remember, the spin stops right here because we aredefini. >> he stunned the nation by nearly upsetting mitt romney in iowa. >> game on! >> sean: tonight, the surging rick santorum is here to tell us how he plans to carry his momentum to new hampshire. it is a mead make-or-berate break weekend for the g.o.p. contenders in two nationally televised debates. we will preview the critical 48 hours that lie ahead. a slight drop in the unemployment rate puts a smile on the face of president obama. >> we are making progress. we are moving in the right direction. >> sean: but with over 20 million americans looking for work, we ask: you can afford

four more? we look at the blatant bias of the obam'bama-loving media. >> it's an unapologetic, in-your-face conservative. >> sean: "hannity" starts right here, right now. we are only a few days removed from rick santorum's second-place finish in iowa, where he fell 8 votes shy of the top spot. late last night, word broke that some errors may exist. could that mean that senator santorum actually won? after the reports surfaced on thursday, santorum announced he is not interested in reinvestigation iowa. instead, he is moving to new hampshire with a sudden influx of campaign cash because in the two days following iowa, he reportedly raised upwards of $2 million. in just a moment, senator santorum will join us live from the granite state, where he explained why he is running for president.

>> it is not an ideal time as a husband and father to be out, taking on this responsibility. but i felt that the country was at a point where i couldn't sit on the sidelines and not do something because we are getting away from the foundational principles that made merkt greatest country in the history of the world. that's what this election's about. >> sean: joining me from the great state of new hampshire is former senator, presidential candidate, rick santorum. welcome back, sir itch thank you, sean. tharchs for having me on? explain one thing, i don't know if i would be as gracious as you, if i thought there was a chance of an error and i might have won, i might want to investigate that a little bit. why not investigate that? >> they are going to certify the election in about, less than two weeks' time now. they are going through that process. i talked to the county -- excuse me, the state chairman last night. he said, there are going to be changes. there are always errors. they transpose numbers n. one

case, they left out a number. so those things are going to happen. obviously, the vote could change when you have only 8 votes difference. but i already won iowa in my mind. less than two weeks before the caucuses, i was in mid-single digits and to finish tied with someone who spent, i think, close to $150 per vote and i think i spent 23 cents, i think we are in pretty good shape right now. we feel verdict about what happened in iowa. we are ready to come here and keep the momentum going. >> sean: things are getting pretty heated. you have two debate this is weekend. a lot of people will be tuning in. you had some pretty harsh words for mitt romney earlier today. you said his health care record was convoluted and you will need to be a yoga instructor to convince people it's straight. a harsh tack. >> well, it is. i mean, the know, the rhetoric is, i will repeal obamacare, i

am not for government-run health care. and he was as governor of massachusetts. but there is no places in the country where health care is more responsive than massachusetts. and the people added to massachusetts, well over half were added under the government payroll. so the medicaid program. this is not i way to -- to have a sharp contrast on the most important issue, domestic policy we are going to be dealing with. that's the impact of obamacare on the economy of this country that will be going into effect and to have someone who has been for individual mandates and government-run health care and for a top-down approach to solving this problem, it's the wrong person to put up against president obama. >> sean: i assume there will be a lot about this this weekend. i have no doubt, that tell impact debate, both of them, on the race. you got pretty angry with ron paul and his attacks against you. you called them disgusting.

he's out there again -- >> i called the attacks disgusting, not him-- i'm sorry. i stand corrected. you are -- i fully understand. he's now out with another ad and in the ad he talked about one serial hypocrite, newt gingrich and now another is emerged, rick santorum, a corporate lobbyist, a washington politician. then he used this word -- a record of betrayal. why do you think he's gone so, so negative in his attacks? and it clearly bothered you in iowa, is it bothering you here in new hampshire? >> what bothered me in iowa was the robo-calls, saying i was pro-choice and didn't defend the second amendment. i have an a-plus rate from this nra. i have been a member, someone who believes very much in the right to bear arms, and the second amendment is there to protect the first. you know my record on life. the most constant question i get is are you too extreme on the

life issue? so to go with the last-minute robo-calls, i found that tactic to be disgusting. if ron paul wants to put my record out there, i am very happy to do that. i am very proud that we fought very diligently for leaner government and for balanced budget amendments, line-item veto. i did more in the entitlement reform. show me one bill that ron paul passed that repealed an entitlement. dit. he stands out there and points his finger and says issue i i doll this and i will do that and he has accomplished nothing in 20 years. look at my record of accomplishment in reducing spending and getting the entitlements under control. vidone it and not just lectured people about it. >> sean: i interviewed you wednesday after the iowa caucus on my radio program. i asked you, senator, are you prepared for the media and the scrutiny and the unleashing -- look, i assume you have been

pretty busy and not been playingas close attention as i am to the details. and you probably don't want to pay attention. i will give you a couple of snippets. rick santorum is coming for your birth control. the rick santorum that america doesn't know. talk of annulling gay marriage. questioning the right to birth control. you know what a lot of these things are. >> yeah. >> sean: people keep bringing up that you supported arlen specter. i wanted to give you a chance to respond because this is a narrative that's gaining intensity day by day and i want to get your thoughts. >> on the birth control issue. i'm a catholic, catholic church preaches birth control is wrong. i try to practice my faith, as closely as i can, as does my wife. so visaid, i don't believe birth control is right. vialso said repeatedly, i would never voted for a law to outlaw birth control. i think that's a partial decision, one that the vast majority of americans believe is

a legitimate form of birth control. that's absolutely fine. what i won't fund -- i have said i would defund planned parenthood and not fund planned parenthood, but that's different from saying whether something is legal, as to whether we are going to federally fund something. so the idea that i have any issue, from a legal point of view of birth control, is a fabrication. i would have never said it. on the other issues, i don't know what the second issue was, if you want to remind me of that one? >> sean: that one had to do with gay rights et cetera and annulling gay marriage in states that have of it? >> i am for a constitutional amendment that a marriage is gone a man and a woman. of course, if -- if you your marriage is want between a man and a woman, it is not a marriage, according to the constitution. that's stating the obvious, if you vote for the federal marriage amendment.

>> sean: how did you deal with the illoy ballot, the deadline was 5:00 p.m. and ojaio and vermont is on monday and mississippi's filing date is january 14. have you been able to get the signatures necessary and qualify in these states? >> yeah. we have. i want to thank all of our volunteers in vermont. they really are busting tail for us, to get us on the ballot there and to sign the documents for that. illinois, we are on the ballot. i think we -- with maybe the exception of a couple of inner-city districts where, as far as getting the signatures necessary for those congressional districts, which is difficult. we are on all the other congressional districts. in ohio, we are in every congressional district. we feel very good that we will have all the delegates we need to go out and get our portion as we continue on the hunt here. i think there will be one state for sure -- well, the district of columbia,a, but other than te

district of columbia and the dispute in virginia, we will be on every ballot and have delegates to fill the slots. as i said the other night, game on? speaking of game on, senator mccain has some pretty tough words fur. are you going on team up with newt gingrich or are you the junior partner? we'll get to that when we come back. we will have much more with rick santorum and we will go over the polls as our election countdown continues with the latest from new hampshire, south carolina and a preview of the whirlwind weekend ahead for the g.o.p. candidates, preparing for debates, both on saturday, tomorrow, and sunday. [ male announcer ] in bli, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ thinking ] i wonder what other questionable choices i've made?

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>> welcome back to "hannity." we are only four days from the new hampshire, first-in-the-nation primary. he continues to join me from the granite state, republican presidential confor $200 tender, former senator rick santorum. let me throw a poll as you because this keeps coming up.

there is one similar in south carolina. but nationwide, this is in new hampshire, wmur, 59% say that mitt romney has the best chance of beating barack obama. that's a pretty significant majority. why do you think people -- this has been a long process now. people in new hampshire pay attention. why do you think they believe that at this point? >> well, if you took a poll two weeks before the iowa calk urks you would have found a similar number. the bottom line is that the -- all the talk and the chatter is how romney is the guy who can win because he's the moderate. he's the establishment. the bottom line is, from my perspective that we need a sharp contrast with president obama, number 1, to win. >> we need someone who will make president obama the issue, someone who doesn't have a bad record on the wall street bailout, doesn't have a bad record on health care, doesn't have a bad record on climate change. we need somebody who has a sharp

contrast to show we are the party of believing in the merg people with free market and free enterprise and building things from the bottom up, not the top down. and that contrast with governor romney doesn't wash. that's 1. number 2, sean, governor mitt romney has never run an election as a conservative and won anything. i did four elections, two in a heavily democratic house district, blue-collar, steel worker house districts outside of pittsburgh. and 2, in a state with a million more registered democrats than republicans and led the ticket in all four of those elections. so i have the record of running as a conservative in states and districts that we need to win, if we are going to defeat barack obama. >> sean: let's talk about newt gingrich. i spoke to him earlier this week. i asked him about this idea of teaming up with you and he sounded favorable. then i think it was yesterday, he made this comment. >> i think rick's a fine person.

we have worked many years. i think there are some differences. if you look at total level of experience, i think that i am substantially more experienced than rick is at actually running a very large government operation. if you think of us as partners, he would clearly in historical experience be the junior partner. >> sean: he may want to join up, but he wants to put you in the junior position. but you are friends? >> absolutely. that's a subtle jab. my feeling is the junior partner, when i was in the house of representatives, the big thing that turned the house of representatives from democrat to republican was the scandals that i uncovered, along with john boehner and jim russell, the gang of 7, we fought both republican and democratic leadership on corruption with check-cashing scandal and sent dan rothenskowski to jail.

many in the leadership phot fought us and fought usitouslily and newt did not. but he certainly didn't go out and fight the battles and make the changes that were necessary. he was not even a junior partner, he wasn't even in the law firm. in the case of-- this weekend's going to be worse than the giants and the saint and it is packers and everybody else playing. >> lno, i'm just laying out the facts i love newt. but you can't say with respect to that particular situation, which was a very key part of republicans taking control, that he had a lot tow do with it. he was doing other things and they were good things. but he wasn't involved in that. >> sean: let me ask you this -- look, i know, it's interesting because i am on twitter, i read my emails. i get letters letters from peop. i take phone calls on the radio. i love to read what people say. we have people all over the map, supporting this candidate, that

candidate. there is one thing -- if you look at the president's proposal to cut defense, it's scary to me, especially because i think the world is more dangerous with iran, and the missile bases in venezuela, warning america to pull warships out of the straits, pretty frightening stuff and their desire for nuclear weapon, gutting the defense, circumventing the constitution with theress appointment i. i agree. >> sean: $5 trillion in obama debt. the economy's not getting better, unemployment is not getting better. isn't the big picture at the end of the process, you are going to unit? is that fair? >> absolutely. look, i would be fine in voting for any of the candidates on the stage tomorrow night. all of them will be superior-- even ron paul? >> uh, you know, i believe h. remember who barack obama ran as the first time? he was the big anti-war -- he

was going to gut everything, pull america out, pull america back. then he sat down and realized that, you know, if he was going to run for re-election, he couldn't, given the threats, do what we wanted to do. president obama in a second term as commander in chief, he said he was going to manage the decline of our military and focus all resources to grow the welfare state. this is a man who will do just as much damage to our military posture as ron paul would do. >> sean: last question. one of the things where i notice that the mitt romney -- john mccain did it yesterday, hit you on the issue of earmarks. now, the constitution does say that congress authorizes spending and money. >> right. >> sean: you defend the practice. you have been -- when asked about it, you didn't retreat from it because you think, what? >> well, i would say, you are right, the congress is authorized under the constitution to spend moan. jim demint, who was someone who

focused on repealing earmarks and getting rid of earmarks, earmarked himself. why? you get elected by your state to make sure you have resources going back touary state, to some proportion, that's part of your job as a representative or senator from that state. what happened was there became a lot of abuse and that abuse was tied to increasing spending on appropriation bills. that abuse had to be stopped and at the 2010 election, i supported ending earmarks. but the idea that congress appropriating money and allocating where the resources is going is inherently corrupt is a john mccain creation because john mccain had a very bad record on reforming entitlements. that's where the real money is. he had a bad record on that, so he created this as the litmus test for spending cuts in washington. it is not. it is a very small part what have goes on. and the big problems we have to face are social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps and i have been a leader on all of those.

>> sean: all right, senator. weil see you monday night. we will be doing the. >> program from new hampshire. congratulations on your success in iwa. see you up there. >> thank you very much, sean. go to rick santorum.com to help us out. >> sean: and we have the most extreme examples of liberal mainstream media bias, straight mainstream media bias, straight sometimes life can be, well, a little uncomfortable, but when it's hard or hurts to go to the bathroom, there's dulcolax stool softener. dulcolax stool softener doesn't make you go... it just makes it easier to go. dulcolax stool softener. make yourself comfortable.

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>>r. >> sean: welcome back to "hannity." our media mash. it should come as no surprise that they devoted a lot of air time to attacking senator rick santorum after his very impressive second-place finish in iowa. joining me to go through this week's material, none other than the president of the media research center, brent bozel.

how are? >> good. how are you? >> sean: happy new year. let's start with the major networks. this is important. we have to see all of this in my view, through the prism that the media never vetted obama. here's rick santorum does well. here's the attacks on santorum. >> he is unapologetic and in-your-face conservativism but rick santorum says this is his fight for the american family. >> he needs to expand beyond those base republican voters. >> he's about to faces a meat grinder of tough scrutiny for the first time. is he going to have to change his conservative message, as he's looking into -- looking into new hampshire, which is a much less conservative state? >> a lot of democrats were celebrating senator santorum, saying in their view, you are on the extreme right on many of these social issues and they think, for them, it's a good thing that the issues will be front and center. >> sean: when do wev hear extreme left?

in-your-face liberal? >> exactly right. we heard it here. abc believes, if you support the traditional family as rick santorum does, it makes you in your face. cnn believes it makes you extreme. what's more extreme -- a person who says that he believes in his catholic faith on contraception and he wouldn't impose it by the way? or a person who wants to distribute it to 12-year-olds? a person who is pro-life -- and the majority of americans are pro-life? or the person who has the most radical pro-abortion record in the history of the presidency of the united states, supporting every form of abortion, federally fundd? now, with that said, sean hannity, can you name me a single time you have ever heard cnn or abc ever quote barack obama's position and call it extreme? >> sean: no, no, no. speaking of the abortion issue, nbc has come to the conclusion that this will repel moderate

women and the female vote in the country? >> your views on abortion are well known. you make no exception for abortion in the case of rape or incest. other republicans have adopted that view. but lesser known are the views on contraception, saying it is dangerous. the general election will come down to the middle-of-the-road voters, many of them are women. should republicans sizing up your candidacy be concerned about the issue of electability, should you be the nominee against barack obama? >> sean: i don't remember that scrutiny about obama's background and radical associations. maybe i fell asleep during those reports? >> all we have to do is reverse it. look at barack obama's position on abortion. and look at his radical nature. ask yourself, has anyone ever asked him, pointed out and had -- how's this for a number?

1,289 network news stories on barack obama in 2008, only 6 ever mentioned his position on the born live bill, a bill to save the life of a baby that survives a partial birth abortion and he stopped even that, only 1/10 of 1% of stories dealt with that and no one ever called that extreme. >> sean: it's pret tefascinating to me, whoever is the frontrunner, i don't care in it was michele bachmann or rick perry or herman cain or newt gingrich, the attacks have been vicious and they continue. newt gingrich is polling pret le, cbs, you know, we conservatives believe less regulation, lower taxes, more jobs, increasing revenues to the government. reagan doubled revenues to the government bu. they have a different point of view as in this interview with newt gingrich. >> absolutely no tax increases? >> none. the problem with the united states is not that we are over

taxed, it is that we are over sfent. >> economic growth and prosperity he envisions he says, would remove any pain of spending cuts. but critics say that fewer regulations could spur some productivity, but they also say that to really reduce the deficit, you valid to include some combination of spending cuts and tax increases. >> sean: i have a new name, instead of critics, why don't we say, our liberal friends in the mede think -- >> first person plural. we. >> sean: we liberals believe. >> it is the bait and switch. they did it in the 80s with ronald reagan. they overspent and said have you to raise taxes and we'll cut spending. they didn't. with george bush, they said, have you to raise taxes, weil cut spending, they didn't. they have destroyed the country by over spending and they are saying, we have to raise taxes and we will reduce the deficit and they won't. newt is right. but that's neither here nor

there. they fall back on critics say. it is not the critic, it's the reporters themselves? >> sean: we fellow liberals believe, scott... now back to you. i ran into andrea mitch nel iowa, by the way, very nice woman, very pleasant. diask her quickly about her comments that she made about the people of iowa, she said, no, no, no, this was taken out of context. i thought i would play it and let you decide for yourself. >> the rap on iowa, it doesn't represent the rest of the country, too white, too evangelical, too rural. >> born in new jersey and educated in california, bloom has spent two decades in iowa and he has written two books about small-town iowa. >> there is one passage that has come to summarize the disdain they say you have for the state of iowa. those who stay in rural iowa are often the elderly waiting to

die, those too timid or lacking in education to peer around the bend for better opportunities, meth addicts with pale skin and rotted teeth or those who quixot ically believe that the sun will come out tomorrow. >> it's an explosive article. >> sean: when she says the rap on iowa or the critics say here we go again. in other words, our liberal trap doesn't represent the country, too white, evangellal and rural. who else thinks this? i want to meet these people. >> if that man had said that disgusting stuff about jews in palm beach or muslims in michigan or blacks in harlem, he would never see the light of day, appropriately so. but here's nbc, putting it on their web site and she is echoing that sentiment, giving it air time. cleaning to the gods and guns. here we go. the poor, uneducated and easy to

command types. this is the disdain that the elites have for middle america. they always have. >> sean: you know what? your critics say -- when people hear the words "critics say," the rap on iowa, say we elite liberal media say, that's how we ought to interpret that. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> sean: let not your heart be troubled. our great, great, great american panel is

>> sean: and tonight on our great, great american panel, he serve as executive director of the black national caucus and is a principle in the modefta group, braght braght is here. he is known as trump's right-hand man, the executive vice-president and special counc toil donald trump. you will notice, that's a trump tie. vione on, too. yours is a trump tie. yours isn't? >> i am not wearing one tonight. >> on national television. i am sure mr. trump is watching. i am probably in trouble. >> your. >> sean: you deserve to be docked on monday morning. and she was miss america 2008 and is a community relations specialist with timberline knolls. and you just got engaged? >> sure. >> sean: i warned your boyfriend, you step up or it's over. >> and he did, new year's eve.

>> congratulations. >> thank you very much. >> sean: let me ask you from this perspective, you have, we have a pro-romney group you have newt going after romney. have you romney going after santorum, santorum going after romney and paul and paul going after everybody. a lot of people are worried about it, but i'm not. i feel it will make them stronger. they need to be ready for a billion-dollar obama campaign. >> the mud slinging, yeah? to me, it's sad. and i see my generation, honestly, you are not worried about it because they do have to be prepared for barack obama. but we want to see the facts-- are you saying we are old, by the way? >> not at all-- i'm not old. >> obama was all hope and change and he ran the clean campaign. yeah, he's going to sling musmd but i think that people will be over that in the general election. get through it now. i think it's really sad.

>> i have to disagree with ow that one. i think if republicans slinging and being derogatory to other republicans, i think is what is killing the republican field. i also think i. i agree. >> it's creating a third party. that's why there is these three, four million people who are asking someone like donald trump to step up and create a third party-- make an announcement for donald? >> i will not be making that announcement tonight? >> i talked to him for an hour on the radio. i don't think he's going to do it, but i think the threat keeps everybody honest -- [overlapping dialogue] >> he does want to do t. he's really waiting right now. >> sean: you have to understand. michael, barack obama has said that republicans want dpirtier air and dirtier water. they want kids with autism and down's syndrome and the elderly to fend for themselves. it's going to be a billion-dollar smear campaign because he cannot run on his failed record. so -- this process will make

these guys stronger and they are going to need it. they will need that strength that, experience. >> this is good news for the democrats that the super pacs are going after one another -- look. it's good news for rick santorum that romney will run the ads or the super pac and will good news for jon huntsman with the endorsement of the boston globe and it's good news for democrats that the amount of monet and negative headlierngs you are going to see regurgitated t. won't be president obam a saying this is what i think about mitt romney i. i could play a tip -- a tape of bill clinton saying, they played the race card on me. it works in reverse. it got pretty heated with hillary and bill. >> what it is doing is creating a real disdain by republicans in order to stay in the party. and they are looking for a third party, they are looking for a donald trump-- but they are looking --

[overlapping dialogue] >> sean: wait a minute. negative ad campaigning works. ask newt gingrich. >> but i continuing will make it difficult for speaker gingrich to exit gracefully. heel stay in longer and cause more problems for the eventual nominee. >> they will stay in until the money runs out. perry will leave. you will also see-- do you agree that negative campaigning works? >> no. it doesn't work. for right now -- >> it does. and who it is working for is romney. all it's doing for newt gingrich, ron paul and rick santorum is tossing votes between them. newt attacks rom nerks the vote guess to santorum. it's only helping romney and he has so much money, it is going to be romney in the end. >> santorum did so well because of the family leader who came out-- that was part of it. >> it was the biggest part of it. >> sean: shake every hand. >> we give him a lot of credit for electing to come when trump transform was going to be doing

the debate. he had a lot of guts and he should be respected for that. but i stand by my opinion that this mud slinging by republicans, those that really know that they have no shot should walk away. let-- i have to stop you there. are you really saying you don't think the super pac ads against gingrich hurt him in iowa? >> it absolutely did. >> sean: so they do work? >> they work for the moment. they work for finally weeding out who the-- let me get -- >> but the damage is so bad for the party. >> sean: i think it's long forgotten in june. i hope i am right. who would barack obama most like to face as a democrat? who do you think? >> you know, i don't think the president has a choice as to who he is going to pick. the voters will decide. tell probably be mitt romney at the end of the day. but i think the president will be be ready. when there is a contrast between president obama and mitt romney and mitt romney's running against where he was 3 years

ago, 4 years ago, 5 years ago, i think that contrast-- barack obama flopped on recess appointment this is weekend and he said it's a bad idea, shouldn't be done. he said all of those things. >> sean. >> barack obama will go down in history as the worst president in this country. >> sean: i agree. >> it doesn't make a difference which republican gets there, excluding possibly ron paul, any of them can beat obama because he's a failed i. i totally disagree. that's why i really firmly believe we need to pick someone who is viable, who can win. i think that is mitt romney. i think he can win. i think the voters see that. >> sean: we are all over the map here. i turned 50. >> don't hurt yourself. >> sean: my arm's fine. [ male annouer ] juice drink too watery? ♪

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>> sean: we continue witheur great, great american panel, hard-hitting letter to the president from marco rubio. it's a tragic reality, but on your watch, more and more people, he writes, have come to believe that america is becoming a deadlite nation. this comes on the heels of the unemployment numbers. >> some may say, good news, what is the real number? the real number, 15.2%, the

total unemployed and all persons marge neal attached to the labor force. we know what that means. i don't see the economy recovering. we don't count them anymore. only washington can't count people who are unemployed because they have been unemployed so long. >> it's a small number. second, i would agree with you and i would say tdoesn't really matter what the statistics say. it is really what the american people feel. we receive thousands, tens of thousands of emails and letters a day, i'm suffering. i am losing my house. i am losing my car. i can't feed my children, i can't buy clothes. that's what the american people are feeling that's important, not the statistic. because you can manipulate a statistic. there is an old expression, you know, numbers don't lie, people do. and all of these people who look at these poll numbers, it doesn't mean anything. >> you know, michael, for a businessman, you are talk

dispoom gloom and i don't think that's where we shsh. i think should you celebrate 200,000 finding jobs in december and if i was there in january, stwebt 09 othis day, that month, 650,000 lost jobs -- >> let me ask you this question -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: we have lost 2 million plus jobs since obama's been president. that's the fact. second issue, now that people get off the unemployment benefits, we don't count them anymore. can we agree that we should count them and get a real number and stop ignoring people who are unemployed? >> statistics don't matter. the statistics don't matter -- [overlapping dialogue] >> we should count the numbers and have accurate numbers. 22 months of straight private-sector job creation -- 22 months. straight! >> we are not getting jobs as quickly as we need to to solidify a recovery, instead of short-term solutions and victories, we should be

implementing long-term solutions and recovery and the policies that he advocates -- they do not -- at this time in the reagan recovery, he recorded 1.25 million jobs in a single month. now we have the threatest collapse of yiewmp. if that happens, that will impact america, inflation. we pay $5 trillion for 200,000. >> and it's debt! that's interest on the debt. >> that's obama debt. >> $500 billion, interest. >> sean: if that was donald trump, they would be handcuffed and taken to jail. >> no private sector could exist the way that the government is running. obama is a horrible leader. look, i'm a democrat, i voted for him. nobody wanted to see this man-- i'll never forgive you. >> many people have said that. this won't be another person in the history of this country.

>> people need to look at the facts and we need to come together as americans and look at implementing long-term solutions. have you to count the right number, 15.2%. we need a new fot help us long term. >> good panel. up next, g.o.p. hopefuls lead to new hampshire. mitt romney leads by a significant amount. that's coming up

>> all eyesor new hampshire with want one, but two televised debates that could make or break the g.o.p. candidates. now heading into tuesday, the first in the nation primary, the former massachusetts governor has 42%, ron paul is a distant second with 18 and rick santorum rounds out the top 3 and below the mason dixon line, it's a tighter race in south carolina. rasmussen's poll shows mitt romney leading with 27% of the vote to rick santorum's 24 and newt gingrich has 18%. it's important to note that securing the palmetto state's primary is especially critical since no republican candidate has won the white house without it. joining me with the reaction from the young america's

foundation. guys, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> ellen, you were saying something before we started -- >> i couldn't -- [chuckles] go ahead. we had a previous thing -- >> i cannot believe that you and brent bozel characterized obama as a liberal. i mean, nothing could be further from the truth, his guantanamo position, the war position. look, i like some of what he has done, for sure. i am going to vote for obam ano question-- what a shock. >> but if he's a liberal, i'm not on the planet and i know you don't think i'm on the planet. >> sean: that would be mars. i don't know how to answer that, kate. i mean i. it's tough to know where to begin on that. but the two things, this is the president who has absorbed one-sixth of the economy to the government through shoving down the health care mandate, down america's throat and the other thing is, he believes so

pervently in the role of government that he has taken the deficit, which he said was obscenely, unpay the patriotically high to $16 trillion in 3 years. if that's know a big-government liberal, i don't know what is. >> sean: we have two debate this is week eb, very, very critical. ellen, why do i suspect, if you had your way, you would choose who to win this nomination? >> jon huntsman, no question. >> sean: there you go. >> i'll tell you why, not just because a let of you think he's a liberal republican-- i like him. i think he's in a very tough spot. he's not polling well enough to win. as i go around the world and i see how big china has their hands on almost everywhere i gi think it is critical to understand that relationship, just like it was in russia in the 50s and the 60s. i think huntman's the guy to do it. >> sean: what do you think,

kate? >> i think that was a really thoughtful response. i agree that's a strength of his. but i think in looking at the upcoming primary in new hampshire, i think that is not make or break. i think that's a done deal that romney's going to win it. it's a battle for second place. i don't think a lot of people are paying attention. i think they are looking below the mason dixon line at the south carolina race. i think that you pointed out the numbers there,27-24, romney, santorum. intd interesting in that race, the 45% of republicans who think that romney can and will win the nomination and is best to defeat obam a. so why is he 27%? yesterday, he spoke to a crowd in south carolina and he said about obama, he said, he is killingions, he doesn't mean to, but he is. that is why republicans are not flocking to romney, he is not

take off the gloves. he is being meek and timid about this incredibly destructive presidency. >> sean: you believe that obama is purposely destroying the economy? i would disagree with you -- i think he's a rigid idiolog and he's in over his head -- [overlapping dialogue] >> the smartest man in america. he set out to fundamentally transform the united states of america. his words right before he was elected. he has gone about that systemat cawlically. >> sean: there is some truth to that. >> if 1.7 million people lost their jobs or fewer people are employed now-- hang on. but the point that i am making is, i think he believes in it. the difference is -- i can't read somebody's heart -- >> it's part of the transformation of america that he believes in. you are right. >> sean: he got his policy passed. that's why running against a do-nothing congress, is silly, but ellen, the last word here. >> how about the unemployment

statistics today, the best -- look what president obam inherited from president bush? >> sean: we don't count half the people i. the statistics are made in the same way by every administration -- excuse me. we have lost 2 million jobs since he's been president of the united states. he can't created a job. he has lost 2 million jobs -- [overlapping dialogue] >> during the election four years ago and the stock market was hovering around 6,000. i think we have grown the economy. >> it is taking us in the opposite direction of a recovery and he knowingexactly what he's doing, and if he loses jobs in the process, it's okay. that's what romney needs to say, none of this nicey-nice stuff like "he didn't mean to." he knows exactly what he's doing and republicans need to know-- i think he's a rigid idiolog who thought transforming the america the way he has and running up record debt has been right.